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One on One: Adam Hendershott · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all In. Let's just you.
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  Speaker 2: I Am all in with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast, one
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  Speaker 1: of our productions iHeartRadio, I heart Media, iHeart Podcasts. Today
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  Speaker 1: we are going to do an interview with Adam Hendershott.
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  Speaker 1: He played a k at the Yale Daily News for
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  Speaker 1: seven episodes. He is currently a commercial and editorial portrait photographer.
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  Speaker 1: Was born, raised, and is still based in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 1: Adam got into the entertainment industry when he was discovered
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  Speaker 1: at A Bob's Big Boy six years old. His first
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  Speaker 1: acting job was playing a young Dudie Howser MD flashback
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  Speaker 1: episode of the television series. Adam is twenty years of
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  Speaker 1: experience as a working actor, with roles in Nip Tuck
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  Speaker 1: for Uncle Mar's Cold Case and Nancy Drew As a photographer.
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  Speaker 1: Adam's work has been featured in magazines like GQ, Esquire, People,
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  Speaker 1: and Entertainment Weekly, and has worked at campaigns for movie posters,
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  Speaker 1: album covers, Oh I Wonder which bands, podcasts and books.
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  Speaker 1: Jackie Let's bring him in, Adam, how did you get
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  Speaker 1: your role on Gilmore Girls? Tell us about it?
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  Speaker 2: Oh boy, I remember I had. It was a it
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  Speaker 2: was a lengthy auditioning process. It was a unique process too.
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  Speaker 2: We actually it was my first time going and being
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  Speaker 2: paired with like a group of people because I had
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  Speaker 2: my role was in the Yale newsroom. So I remember
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  Speaker 2: being paired up with a group at the audition and
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  Speaker 2: they and before I went in, my manager said, hey, man,
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  Speaker 2: you got to watch Gilmore Girls to make sure you
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  Speaker 2: understand the tone of this show. And I did, and
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  Speaker 2: so I was like, okay, I know, I gotta I
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  Speaker 2: gotta keep my dialogue peppy and poppy. And then when
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  Speaker 2: when I auditioned with the group of people, they wanted
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  Speaker 2: to make sure that we could like jump on, jump
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  Speaker 2: in right away as soon as it was our turn
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  Speaker 2: to speak and be a be part of like an ensemble.
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  Speaker 1: That was it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was an awesome interview experience. Is definitely unique.
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  Speaker 1: So you didn't have any problem with the speed or.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't really. It was it was kind of fun
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  Speaker 2: being part of a group where I you know, as
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  Speaker 2: soon as as soon it might turn to speak, man,
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  Speaker 2: I was just man, I was ready to ready to
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  Speaker 2: jump in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, good, So you nailed it and then how
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  Speaker 1: long afterwards did you know you got the offer? Your
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  Speaker 1: agent call you and say you got it?
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  Speaker 2: Oh. I think I went to like an initial call
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  Speaker 2: and then they brought us back for like producers or
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  Speaker 2: director and then and then as soon as that happened,
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  Speaker 2: I believe it was either that night or the next
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  Speaker 2: day that that I got an offer to be on it.
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  Speaker 1: And were you pretty pumped because were you away of
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  Speaker 1: the show and you knew, hey, this this is definitely
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  Speaker 1: a shot in the arm for the career.
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  Speaker 2: Heck, yeah, man, that was back back then. I mean
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  Speaker 2: it was a lifetime ago. So yeah, I was definitely
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  Speaker 2: stoked to be on a on a hit shot. Oh man,
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  Speaker 2: it was I've been acting since I was a little kid,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, and took a little break and then
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  Speaker 2: and then when uh, when it was time to get
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  Speaker 2: back into it, and and I was in my late teens. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: I was super passionate about acting, and getting on the
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  Speaker 2: show was definitely uh uh encouraging and uh very cool.
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  Speaker 1: So you played uh A K A K on the
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  Speaker 1: Year for the Yale Daily News for seven episodes. It's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of episodes. Yeah, they just kept calling you
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  Speaker 1: to come back, or did they give you a seven
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  Speaker 1: episode deal. They just kept calling.
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  Speaker 2: They did not they just they just kept calling. It
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  Speaker 2: was awesome. Yeah. Every time that they needed to go
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  Speaker 2: back to the the news room and I was in
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  Speaker 2: it and I was in the scripts, they just said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you're you're working great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always good news, always good fun. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was always fun being a part of that,
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  Speaker 2: being part of that group. And then I became kind
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  Speaker 2: of friends with all the people in the Yale newsroom
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  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 1: So we spoke to Devin already and he's one of
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  Speaker 1: the writers from Yale Daily News. Were you who were
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  Speaker 1: you closest to was Devin? You mentioned Devon That was.
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  Speaker 2: I really liked Devon Man. Everyone was really cool. Danny
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  Speaker 2: Putty was really cool. Amy Sloan was really cool. I
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  Speaker 2: would say Rona was the person that I became the
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  Speaker 2: biggest friends with. Rona Benson. Yeah, I became a photographer
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  Speaker 2: and was a been a photographer for a really long time,
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  Speaker 2: and I've taken her head shots multiple times.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's nothing that says friendship more than allowing somebody
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  Speaker 1: to take your head shots. What was your favorite part
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  Speaker 1: of working in that newsroom?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I love the tone of the show because
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  Speaker 2: it was just such a challenge that it was just unique,
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  Speaker 2: like a unique acting challenge, so always being like no,
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  Speaker 2: having my lines down and and and knowing uh when
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  Speaker 2: to jump in and you know, actually one of my
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  Speaker 2: favorite things to be part of that show were the
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  Speaker 2: different directors. I I liked to see how different directors
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  Speaker 2: on each episode would come in and bring there and
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  Speaker 2: do the choreography of the blocking and the dialogue and
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  Speaker 2: everything and kind of have to jump in.
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  Speaker 1: Too.
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  Speaker 2: And like especially Kenny Artega that was that was a
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  Speaker 2: really cool episode to see him like everything became like
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  Speaker 2: a dance and and the blocking of choreography with the
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  Speaker 2: camera and it was it was all really cool to watch.
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  Speaker 2: But the camaraderie as well was was awesome, you know,
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  Speaker 2: meeting a bunch of cool people that were that became
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  Speaker 2: friends and and and acting in a on a kind
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  Speaker 2: of really cool show.
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  Speaker 1: I was.
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  Speaker 2: I was happy to happy to participate.
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  Speaker 1: What a concept. Huh, get paid to go make friends
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  Speaker 1: and do stuff you like to do.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, after after cleaning pools and doing all kinds
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  Speaker 2: of other odd jobs.
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  Speaker 1: So did you prefer when Paris was editor or Rory?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what what what was more fun to be
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  Speaker 1: a part of.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was more stressful when Rory was was
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  Speaker 2: the editor, and then when Rory it was just a
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  Speaker 2: bunch more of a supportive environment. You know, it's just
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  Speaker 2: a different there's just a different environment. One was more
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  Speaker 2: One was definitely a lot more hectic and stressful. Did
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  Speaker 2: she was a bit of a tyrant?
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  Speaker 1: Right? Did you get to know Lies a little bit?
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  Speaker 2: Or or alexis a little bit not not more than
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  Speaker 2: off off out of the studio, you know, but all
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  Speaker 2: the all the people that were my friends in the
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  Speaker 2: newsroom I was, I were friends with them for sure.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, like Rory and Wise, I definitely just saw
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  Speaker 2: when I when I was there filming, and they were
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  Speaker 2: extremely nice.
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  Speaker 1: Did you guys go across the street to that watering
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  Speaker 1: hole together and throw a couple back and reminiscent reminisce
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  Speaker 1: on the day.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't sound familiar, but I mean we might have. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I might have just blacked out from throwing a few back.
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  Speaker 1: What was the name of that What was the name
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  Speaker 1: of that place that famous? Gosh, it escapes me anyway,
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  Speaker 1: It says here that you got discovered at Bob's Big
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  Speaker 1: Boy Hamburger restaurant at six years old. Yeah, what were
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  Speaker 1: you doing? And what? You must have been the most
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  Speaker 1: magnetic child.
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  Speaker 2: I really was, Honestly, I was. I was a very
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  Speaker 2: cute kid and there was a lot of personality.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, tell us about that.
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  Speaker 2: I was with my family, obviously, I was six, and
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  Speaker 2: I think a manager was sitting at another booth and
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  Speaker 2: just like started, you know, like making eyes of me
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  Speaker 2: and like seeing what if I would you know, play
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  Speaker 2: back or whatever, and then came over to my family
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  Speaker 2: and said, this kid is too cute and has a
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  Speaker 2: great person and needs to be in the movies. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, my family had never thought of anything like
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  Speaker 2: that before. So they asked me if I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: do it, and I said, I'm sure, let's try it.
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  Speaker 2: So they took me to an agent, and the agent
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  Speaker 2: wasn't sure if she wanted to represent me, and so
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  Speaker 2: she was like, all right, I'll send you out on
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  Speaker 2: an audition.
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  Speaker 1: What the heck was her problem? What was the agent's problem?
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  Speaker 2: I think I just had like a lack of focus.
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  Speaker 2: I just I mean, I wasn't the typical you know
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  Speaker 2: kid actor. That was just I am dying to be
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  Speaker 2: a star or anything. You're six years old?
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  Speaker 1: Well you were kind of focused. Did they expect exactly?
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  Speaker 2: So? Are you?
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  Speaker 1: Don't cut it? You don't have focus, You're sex You
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  Speaker 1: need to be focused. What is that eight? Did you
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  Speaker 1: just say take a look at me, Look at.
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  Speaker 2: Me, look at this. How can you pass on this?
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  Speaker 1: It got me out of Bob's big boy, you know.
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  Speaker 1: It got me in the door.
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  Speaker 2: And then I booked my first audition. So as soon
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  Speaker 2: as I booked that, she was ready with papers to sign. Yeah. Man,
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  Speaker 2: it was Doogie Howser, Doogey Howser. I played him as
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  Speaker 2: a six year old in a flashback.
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  Speaker 1: Oh right, but she wasn't sure whether you can handle
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  Speaker 1: it because of your focus. But here you are playing
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  Speaker 1: through the house. Okay. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: As soon as I book it, yeah, then she then
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  Speaker 2: she's all over it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then I just never stopped working. I was just
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  Speaker 2: I did a ton of pilots and commercials and little
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  Speaker 2: little movie parts and bunch of like, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: guest stars and things like that.
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  Speaker 1: Would you recommend a young children getting involved in this business?
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  Speaker 1: Did it mess your head up a little bit? Or
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  Speaker 1: were you at all level headed and could deal with
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  Speaker 1: it and all.
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  Speaker 2: That My family was really cool about it. They were
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  Speaker 2: always like, hey, if you never want if you want
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  Speaker 2: to stop doing this, let's stop.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: They never were never pressuring me. So to me, it
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  Speaker 2: really depends on the family and the kid. If there
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  Speaker 2: are some kids that are just magic and they're born
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  Speaker 2: to do this, so you know they so and they
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  Speaker 2: want to do it, but then there are something that
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  Speaker 2: the parents are just like forcing them to be little stars.
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  Speaker 2: So it just really depends.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it all comes down to family. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I never got like, I never got exposed to drugs
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  Speaker 2: and a bunch of bad people or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: You know. I was always pretty grounded in my family,
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  Speaker 2: get me as levelheaded as possible. If I ever said
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  Speaker 2: anything that was like whoa, you're getting a little too
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  Speaker 2: big for your bridges, they shut it down pretty quickly,
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  Speaker 2: right right, right.
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  Speaker 1: So you were born and raised in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a unicorn.
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  Speaker 1: And what does that mean?
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  Speaker 2: That just means everyone in Los Angeles is a transplant.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm actually one of those that's been born
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  Speaker 2: and raised in LA.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: And you started so young? Uh? Did you go to
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  Speaker 1: school with a lot of other kids that were actors
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 2: Like, what was the percentage I did? When I got
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  Speaker 2: a little bit older, I went to a high school
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  Speaker 2: where Romney Malick went to school, and uh and pierced
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  Speaker 2: the Dunst. So yeah, So at a certain point then
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  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, well, most of the kids that
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  Speaker 2: were in the industry were either like in the really
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  Speaker 2: I end schools and never there because they were always filming,
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  Speaker 2: or they were homeschool right.
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  Speaker 1: So so that was a school just for sort of
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  Speaker 1: kids that were working in the industry.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, it was a private Catholic school and they
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  Speaker 2: just they just happened to be going there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, so now you're in you're not
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  Speaker 1: as acting as much, right, that's right, transitioned into a
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  Speaker 1: successful career as a photographer. Uh, that's so. I'd always interested, you.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it was something that you know, I had
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of a lull in my twenties when
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  Speaker 2: I was acting and looking for odd jobs and things.
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  Speaker 2: And my girlfriend at the time.
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  Speaker 3: Now my wife, was was going to USC and asked
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  Speaker 3: if I wanted to do a curricular extracurricular class with
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  Speaker 3: her to go to do photo one on one, and
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  Speaker 3: I just took that class with her and said sure,
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  Speaker 3: why not And I ended up loving it and then
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  Speaker 3: was doing photography and acting for a long time, but
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  Speaker 3: then then ultimately made the big jump over to photography.
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  Speaker 1: So you you've shot some album covers or record covers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've shot some album covers. I've I've shot the
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  Speaker 2: key art on on some podcasts and some movies and
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  Speaker 2: different things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, who are the bands?
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  Speaker 2: Who are the bands? I mean one of the guys
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  Speaker 2: I I was Kanye back in two thousand and seven.
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  Speaker 1: Really, yeah, Kanye, Yeah, Kanye.
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  Speaker 2: I had a mentor at the time, Mino Polouse and
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  Speaker 2: and he uh offered me this job going to Chicago
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  Speaker 2: to follow Kanye around shooting him while he did a
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  Speaker 2: P S. A and uh and man, that was that
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  Speaker 2: was an experience for sure.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's a there's a rumor going around that
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  Speaker 1: if you win an award around Kanye, he's gonna take
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  Speaker 1: it away from you. Oh for sure. Yeah, you gotta
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  Speaker 1: be you gotta be careful of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like you got to pay your dues
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  Speaker 2: and and hope hopefully that happens. That's probably good luck
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  Speaker 2: with that.
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  Speaker 1: You you better you better be careful that Beyonce is
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  Speaker 1: not in the same category or else you're getting charged.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, but she should have won that for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I'm having a little Kanye paranoia. Not that I'm nominated
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  Speaker 1: for anything, but if I ever was, I'd be, Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: i'd be I'd make sure what to watch my six man?
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  Speaker 1: Uh uh so so a lot of what you learned,
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  Speaker 1: uh in photography? Did being on set help or inform
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  Speaker 1: your your photograph photographic vision?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean it really just made me not really
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  Speaker 2: starstruck so much when I would shoot with celebrities. No,
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  Speaker 2: it was like, like, yes, these people are people too,
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  Speaker 2: So if.
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  Speaker 1: You weren't getting what you wanted at him, you just
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  Speaker 1: smack them around, That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Hey yeah, come on, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Ramedy Malick trying to give you attitude because it was
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  Speaker 1: in a Bond film. You just smack them. That's how
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  Speaker 1: you throw a wet chicken at them or something. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: will you do what I tell you to do?
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  Speaker 2: That?
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  Speaker 1: See this is anyway?
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  Speaker 2: Give me a queen bark?
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  Speaker 1: Come on? What about what about? Uh? What about Kanye?
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever shot Kanye?
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  Speaker 2: Uh? Like, I mean I did. I went to Chicago
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  Speaker 2: to shoot with him. And and followed him around for
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  Speaker 2: a whole weekend. Well, he did a PSA to a concert.
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  Speaker 1: But did you do his portrait?
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  Speaker 2: I mean yes, and no. I didn't direct him at all.
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  Speaker 2: I just was was hired to be there to follow
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  Speaker 2: around for as much coverage as possible for the whole weekend.
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  Speaker 2: So I kind of stayed a fly on the wall
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  Speaker 2: as much as I could.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So if you ever, if that ever happens again,
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  Speaker 1: if you cause you again. Yeah, and he says, I
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  Speaker 1: want you follow me around. I want you to shoot
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  Speaker 1: a portrait, hand him a golden statue and say this
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  Speaker 1: was meant force beyond. It wasn't meant for Beyonce, but
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  Speaker 1: I want somebody else want it.
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  Speaker 2: YEA, hold it? Okay, Clinton, Now I'm gonna take your picture.
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  Speaker 2: Right he just might have an episode right while I'm
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  Speaker 2: taking his picture?
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  Speaker 1: Why not? So this is your this is your true
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  Speaker 1: passion or is it both? You can have two passions.
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  Speaker 2: I was passionate about acting for law long time, and
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  Speaker 2: I and then when I found photography, it was like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: people are like hiring me for photo shoots. And it
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  Speaker 2: was like, okay, here's some money for to do a
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  Speaker 2: photo shoot, and with acting, it's like you got an
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  Speaker 2: audition to make some money, so you might get it,
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  Speaker 2: you might not. But if you've got this photo shoot
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  Speaker 2: and you've got to you know, and then you get
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  Speaker 2: an audition. When you're an actor, you have to stop
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  Speaker 2: everything you're doing in order to focus right on this audition.
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  Speaker 2: So I was like, man, I remember the last audition
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  Speaker 2: I went to. It was just you know, the I'm
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  Speaker 2: on the four five and I went to like a
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  Speaker 2: cattle call commercial audition in Santa Monica at like three
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  Speaker 2: o'clock on a Friday or something, and I just had
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  Speaker 2: the worst audition and I had to reschedule a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of guaranteed money for photography in order to do it.
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  Speaker 2: And then I get back in my car and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: just what am I doing? Why am I? Why am
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  Speaker 2: I sacrificing.
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  Speaker 1: This five hours to get home? Yeah, it's four o'clock
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  Speaker 1: on the four would be for self tapes. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if I like the self
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  Speaker 1: tapes so much.
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  Speaker 2: There's pros and cons for sure, definitely. You know, there's
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  Speaker 2: an energy getting in the room and talking to people.
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  Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, there's psychology, you can work with psychology.
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  Speaker 2: I miss and I've also got one buddy that is
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  Speaker 2: on a show now. But you know, when they do
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: their tapes, they get as many takes as they want
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: to get it perfect, and then they send that perfect take,
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: you know, and then when you go and actually shoot
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: the show, yeah, one maybe two takes to get it right,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: you know. So it's just a it's just a different vibe.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: So kind of if you yell and scream, you can
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: get more takes, that's true.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, big enough, you can. You can get away with it.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: So let's talk about some of these big times lebs.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: You work with them? Or Roberts, Angela Kinsey, who's that?
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Who's Angela?
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Can he's Angela from the Office? Oh yeah, the the
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: blonde lady who marries Dwight at the end.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I never I never really watched the show.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: It's such a good show.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: No, I know, I've seen clips. I've never that's fun y.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: I'vehot I've shot to shoot a few people from that
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: show because I'm friends with their publicist, and the publicist
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: asked if I would, you know, take some pictures of them.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: But then when they started their own podcast, rewatching the
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Office shows then they said, hey, come and shoot the
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: cover art for this. So it's called Office Ladies. It's
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: a really good podcast as well that I shot at
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: the cover art part.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Do you charge a lot of money? Are you expensive?
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: So much money?
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: How much?
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: So much money?
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: What do you charge? Tell me what do you charge?
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: It's different, honestly. I work with budgets. You know, you
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: put in bids ten thousand and shot that's on a
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: bad day, one hundred thousands like this.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Like so you're like Andy Leebowitz the West Coast. You're
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: like a female, Oh, I wish what is she? What
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: is she taking down per session? What do you think
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: she's taking?
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? She's what's undred hundreds of thousands
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: of dollars a shoot? For sure? At least at least
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: the budgets are that big for her shoot?
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, she's taking She's takken down some big scores,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: isn't she?
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: And then she's like and then there's licensing, So if
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: she's shooting someone and then they want to use those
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: photos for you know, for me or for all kinds
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: of things, she's just getting paid just for the shoot itself.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, beautiful.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: It's like residuals for actors. It's just that's it's that's
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: where the photographers really make their dusk real.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: The cake is man. So, who's been your favorite to shoot? Though?
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Of these famous.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Celebrity man my favorite to shoot?
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you who's who's been your favorite
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: and who was a nightmare? I want to know who
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: was a nightmare?
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Kanye. Kanye was definitely a prima donna. I mean, he
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: was like that's shocking. Yeah, I remember going to Chicago,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: and I mean, but he's a genius as well as like,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: at the same time, you just kind of give him
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: the grace.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Why is he a genius? Why is this term music
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: around so much? That he's a genius.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: With music and producing and uh, you.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Know when a lot of people do that, do that.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: It's true. I know there's uh I think there's an
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: old documentary called Genius that is about him being him
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: being a genius for with music, but with producing and
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: just his ear and his lyrics and all kinds of stuff.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I think he's just got a very innovative and revolutionary
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: as far as the as far as music is concerned,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm no expert.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: In that I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna dig into
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: this a little bit. I'm gonna check this out.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Wait. So in Chicago, I remember he gave a concert
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: and and then there was like one little thing. It
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: sounded perfect to me, And there was like one little thing,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: and he's doing it for like all these these underprivileged
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: youths in Chicago.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Oh that's nice.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: There was one thing that didn't set that sounded off,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: and he stopped the concert. Boy. Oh and and for
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: like a half an hour, forty five minutes or so,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: he made sure that everything sounded fine and just let
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: these let everybody wait. Well, he just wanted to get
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: this one little thing.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Right, because that's what geniuses do.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I guess they don't settle. They don't settle for mediocrity.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: And then he gets up there and he takes somebody's
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: award away. That's what geniuses do. Yeah, I don't know
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: his music that well, I'm gonna check it out, uh,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: and I'll get back to you on the So, who
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: was in so other than him? Who was a nightmare
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: websitemare I want to know about jennif Fisher? Was she
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: and she was such a nightmare? She was a nightmare,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: wasn't she.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: She's the world?
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, she's so nice all smiles, yes the whole time.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, even I'm sure even if she was having a
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: bad time you you wouldn't know, and she would be.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: She's just so pleasant.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: What about Emma Roberts, dude.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Emma Roberts was super cool. I shot her a few
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: times because she and I had the same manager. So
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I shot her for her in a like a Diane
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: von first and bird dress. And then she uh recommended
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: me to be a photographer for this, like for this
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: jewelry company that was that was working with her to
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: that that where she was like starting to design jewelry.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: And so, man, I owe a good amount of money
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: and time and experience to shooting with her. Man, she was,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: she was fantastic.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: But so who who? Just you just stop the shoot
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: to get out of my studio. I don't want to shoot.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Let me look, give me, give me a name.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Give you a name of somebody that was terrible.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Millions of people listening to this podcast, millions, I want
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: a name.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: You want me to drop? And still the gossip about somebody.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I quit. I'm logging off right now, do.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Uh that's Angela Kenzie cool? Was she? Was she cool?
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Angela Kenzie was very cool? Yeah, yeah, I still I've
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: shot her on multiple occasions and have a have a
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: good time shooting her.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Who's so? Who are your influences? Tell us who your
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: photographic heroes are? For?
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Photographed so many? Oh many? I mean Annie is definitely.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Give me, give me one, Give me one, give meat.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Ye.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I like him. He creates that world, doesn't he? But
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: but he lived that world, didn't he. It's not like
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: he was this church going guy who had a family
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: and he'd go home, but then he had these fantasies
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: and he'd go and he'd act out all brought to life.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: But he lived that life, didn't He didn't he live
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: that life?
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know too much about his personal life,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: but I mean, if it's anything like his photos, I
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: mean it's pretty. It's pretty cool and voyeuristic and kinky.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: So you're doing the photography full time, you're charging tens
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars per photogs.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: That's just so much money.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: You're getting stupid rich. You're getting stupid rich.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: No, man, I assist other photographers. Man, I shoot photography
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: is a journey man. So I, yes, I shoot celebrities
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: every once in a while, but you know, you shoot
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff, and it's different from from day
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: to day. You know, there was a one day I
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: was shooting like a marijuana facility, and then the next
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: then the next day you're shooting kids fashion, and then
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: there's you know, just wherever the wherever the jobs are
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: coming and people are and refer to you. It's it's
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: it's always kind of in a new adventure.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Did Kanye stop by the the dispensary was? Did he
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: did you see? Yeah?
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Right, I'm sure. I'm sure he partakes.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: He's so cool. We're gonna do a a little game
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: we play called rapid Fire. Oh okay, and you can go.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: You don't have to go rapidly. This is there's nothing
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: rapid about it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: So I can think about my answers and then.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: No, you cannot think. You're not allowed to think, all right,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: no thinking normally. I see that you are a thinking person,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: and this is an ethema to what we're doing here.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: All right, Okay, I just need answers, buddy, Okay, I
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: want them straight, and I want him fast, but not rapid. Okay,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: here we go. How do you like your coffee?
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Uh, it's to cream, a little bit of sugar.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: I saw your thinking.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, sorry about that.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't do that.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Are you team Logan Team Jess or Team Dean Team Jess?
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I see you thinking. I can see your brain. You
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: know what. You're one of these high i Q people
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: who just can't turn it off. I understand.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I've never been accused of that.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: No, this was the first time. Who is your favorite
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Gilmour Girls couple? Luke and Laurel are Emily and Richard?
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, Luke and Lauray?
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Hell? Yeah, brother? Uh? Would you rather work with Michelle
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: or Kirk Michelle? Why?
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I have no idea. I didn't think about it.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I just said it now. You're all who would you
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: like to shoot? Whose portrait would you like to shoot?
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: On the show? Who you?
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Well? Alexis I would love to shoot her.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, she's interesting, isn't she?
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Or you let's shoot He's He's.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Very interesting, isn't he?
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Maybe the two of us together? Yes? All right? Yes?
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: What would you do? What? What would you order it?
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Lukes diner?
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Oh? I don't know what's available.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Luke's diner.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: You got pie there, I'll have some pie. I don't
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: know what.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, could you shoot the pie?
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I mean I've done food photography. That's a very specific
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: niche for sure.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Right. Who would you rather hang out with Paris or
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Lane Kim Paris? Why?
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Just because I know her?
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Harvard Yale? Or would you drop out? And
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: oh yeah yeah? Why Yale?
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Why Yale? That was fast?
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I mean that was screw Harvard Yale?
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Why was it the Yale newser.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: That makes sense? Makes sense? I like that you live
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: in the dream. Uh. Would you rather attend a d
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: A R event with Emily or a town meeting with Taylor?
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Oh? Man, I don't even know what the I'll just
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: have to That's an any meaning mind situation I have.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: That's not an answer. We can't accept that, Taylor. Okay,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: thank you? Okay, give them more girls character you would
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: most want as a roommate.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: I would most want as a roommate anyone from the
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Yale newsroom because they were all super cool people.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, how about all of them? Yes, like
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: in a house.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: It would be a good time. When they asked me
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: to do this, I said, let's all get on this.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Can we just have like a group where we all
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: join in on this, that would be awesome.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Get a house in Pacoima or someplace like that and
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: you all be together.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we'll join you for the pod for
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: another episode of the podcast.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, the Pocoima Daily News. You could have your own thing.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: You could be the other I think Pacoima is where
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I shot the weeks.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: That's shocking something in your life you are all in
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: on and I think we know what that is.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: What Yeah, and being a fan, being a family man
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: and my and with my wife and family, and.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: You have you have two kids.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I do? How old I do? Ava is about to
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: turn nine and uh Cole just turned four.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Ah, so great nine, such a great age. My boy
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: is nine. We're having so much fun.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Ah. Yeah, she's the best man. Yeah, he's very cool too.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: It's just you. He just loves mama right now, and
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: it's all about mama.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: He's gonna look, he's gonna discover you give it a
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: couple of years.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what happened with Ava. That's what happened with
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Deva for sure. Right, he'll to his mama's girl. And
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: then now we're now we just have so much fun together.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's just such a joy having a family.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I mean really great. Well, I'm happy for you.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: You got a nice career going. You're charging tens of
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: thousands of dollars?
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Do you have?
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I just I just have the one attack to me
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: if it's any less than that. Yeah, but yeah, things
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: are going good. Man. You're you know, Kanye stocking you
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: now and you know you don't have time. You just
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: don't have time for that.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: That's right. How are you doing? How many kids do
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: you have?
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I have one?
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I just have one kid. Okay, cool? Yeah that was
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: me too. I was an only child.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think we'll probably I think we're
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: talking about number two.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Really, that's like after a nine years old, that's starting
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: over again.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: It start, but it does have its upside in that,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: you know, my son can help out.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: That's cool. Yeah. We my my son and daughter are
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: five years apart, and if you you know, she she
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: definitely helps take care of him a little bit. You know,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: she's very very nurturing little girl. Yeah, but yeah, after
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: we were done with diapers with her, then it became
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: diapers with the new one.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I know, it's like six years in
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: a row of diapers. Yep, it's a lot of divers.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: So much poop. That's a lot of poop. Well, this
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: was fun. You're a pretty guy.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Thanks man, this is fun to do. I'm glad they
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: asked me.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, you're welcome back anytime. And uh, good
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: luck with everything, you know, good luck with the photography and.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna hit you up to take your portrait.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I don't have that kind of money.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, well then forget it.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Forget it, man, tens of thousands in charge. It's too
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: much money. It's like, you know, for.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: The big companies, for the big companies.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Are you you're working out of California? Are you all
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: those taxes? Yeah?
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Wow, so many taxes. Oh my goodness.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: That's why you got to charge to tens of thousands,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: because you left with about five hundred bucks at the
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: end of the day, right after every shoot.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: That's true, So true, end up with true yeah, after
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: the assistant right, Yeah.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: You charge fifty thousand a shoot, you end up with
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: about forty dollars. Yeah.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I can buy myself a cup of coffee and then
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: at Starbucks for forty bucks.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, almost enough money to buy a dinner for the
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: family of Trader.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Joe's almost right, almost almost, that's right, all.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Right, man, would be good. Peace be with you, brother.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: It is great talking to you.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Great talking.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I wish you all the best best your family. Thanks
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: and stay safe brother, okay cool, can't wait here, Take
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: care man, alright, bye, all right, bye, Hey everybody, and
• 33:06
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• 33:09
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