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I Choose...To Talk About Sex with Cindy Eckert · I Choose Me with Jennie Garth

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garland.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, everyone, welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is
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  Speaker 2: all about the choices we make and where they lead us.
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  Speaker 2: My guest today is someone who is a self made
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  Speaker 2: serial entrepreneur and vocal advocate for women. Over a twenty
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  Speaker 2: five year career in healthcare, she has built and sold
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  Speaker 2: two businesses for more than one point five billion dollars.
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  Speaker 2: She's the founder of the first ever FDA approved drug
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  Speaker 2: for low sexual desire in women, Addie the Little Pink Pill,
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  Speaker 2: and I cannot wait to speak with her. Please welcome
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  Speaker 2: Cindy Eckert to the pod. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm having a pinch me moment. I need you to
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  Speaker 1: know this right now. Sitting here with you, well I
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  Speaker 1: really am. I mean, just sitting here with you and
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  Speaker 1: now your whole I Choose Me. It's it just so
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  Speaker 1: resonates with this entire path for me. So thank you
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  Speaker 1: for having me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so glad. I'm so glad that it works for
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  Speaker 2: you because it's such an important message. And I'm so
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  Speaker 2: glad you're here too.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh we were talking before about how fabulous you look.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to reiterate that, I think before we
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  Speaker 2: dive into women's libido and that vast topic. Yes, I
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  Speaker 2: would love for our listeners to get to know you
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  Speaker 2: just a little bit better. And one of the interesting
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  Speaker 2: things that I found in my research was that you,
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  Speaker 2: growing up moved around a lot, and I was wondering
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  Speaker 2: what kind of impact that had on you, both positively
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  Speaker 2: or negatively.
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  Speaker 1: So positively, I still ask my parents if it was
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  Speaker 1: some kind of weird experiment to train me to be
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  Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, because I was definitely the perpetual new kid,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so I didn't fit. I was always a
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  Speaker 1: little bit on the outside of the room looking in.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't the jock, I wasn't the geek. But it
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  Speaker 1: also that's incredibly freeing because I was never sort of
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  Speaker 1: defined by anyone else's you know, sort of belief of
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  Speaker 1: who I was or their own terms. So that was
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  Speaker 1: the pause of the negative like I was in that regard,
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  Speaker 1: also such a social misfit. I came back, I lived
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  Speaker 1: overseas and I lived in the Fiji Islands.
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  Speaker 2: There wasn't even tell them bad.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't sound bad, but come back in like the
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  Speaker 1: eighth grade, and no, no, like cultural reference. You're pretty weird.
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  Speaker 1: But I look back on it and I'm so grateful
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  Speaker 1: for it. At the time, you know, every twelve months
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  Speaker 1: kind of packing your bags and leaving your friends and
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  Speaker 1: saying bye. It was tough. A lot of disruption, disruptor
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  Speaker 1: lots of disruption.
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  Speaker 2: That's good. But I also kind of love the fact
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  Speaker 2: that you could just keep reinventing yourself, Like wherever you moved,
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  Speaker 2: you could just be whatever you wanted to be.
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  Speaker 1: I think it really made me a very open minded
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  Speaker 1: thinker in the sense that, you know, there were all
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  Speaker 1: of these possibilities, all these different kind of points of
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  Speaker 1: view that I saw, different cultures, everything else that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: It's allowed me to not be confined in my thinking
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  Speaker 1: even in my professional life now today.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. Okay, how does one go about co
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  Speaker 2: founding a pharmaceuticals brand, because I've got no idea. Had
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  Speaker 2: you wanted to do this since your whole life or
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  Speaker 2: is this something that just sort of came out of
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  Speaker 2: the blow.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I want to do. I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: be exceptional in business. I've always like chased learning from
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  Speaker 1: people who are great at something, and so when I
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  Speaker 1: got out of college, I went to work for Fortune's
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  Speaker 1: most admired company, which happened to be a pharmaceutical company,
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  Speaker 1: Like it could have been anything. I went there. Then
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  Speaker 1: I fell in love with science and actually making a
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  Speaker 1: difference in people's lives. Like I was so moved by
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  Speaker 1: it that I chased innovation, and you know, I got
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  Speaker 1: into smaller and smaller startups really doing the cool work,
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  Speaker 1: the innovation, and thought, well, why am I going in
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  Speaker 1: and like cleaning up everyone else's messes, Like I'll just
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  Speaker 1: go make my own mess. It's my own fault. I'll
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  Speaker 1: have to fix it. And I think I had enough
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  Speaker 1: of a track record that I believed that people would
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  Speaker 1: write me a check. It was all it takes, by
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  Speaker 1: the way I have to and like that. My first
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  Speaker 1: company was literally called slate, so clean slate on my
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  Speaker 1: own terms, you know, soberen when you go out and
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  Speaker 1: actually ask people to write you a check. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't fit the mold of what you would think of
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  Speaker 1: as a pharma CEO in any way. So that was
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  Speaker 1: an interesting journey. But the idea was there've got to
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  Speaker 1: be all of these other people out there in this
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  Speaker 1: industry that like, really are in love with the patient,
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  Speaker 1: and the difference we can make in patients lives, and
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  Speaker 1: that can be lost in you know, big business. So
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  Speaker 1: what if I got those kind of people together against
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  Speaker 1: a challenge, what could we accomplish? And we built a
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  Speaker 1: really successful business. But you know it's it's not a
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  Speaker 1: typical startup story. Pharma is very expensive, all the clinical trials.
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  Speaker 1: I had to figure out a way to raise a
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  Speaker 1: whole lot of money to get these products to market.
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  Speaker 1: But did get to do it on my own terms.
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  Speaker 1: That's amazing. You went out and raised all your own
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  Speaker 1: money too. Oh absolutely, And was like ceremoniously laughed out
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  Speaker 1: of basically every room at the beginning, like you especially
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  Speaker 1: are you kidding the pink pill? They were like hah,
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  Speaker 1: like all the all the guys in gray suits for
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  Speaker 1: link and get out of here. Good luck and you
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  Speaker 1: know what is your what feels like your curse becomes
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  Speaker 1: your blessing. You know, all those no's led me into
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  Speaker 1: rooms of people who were high networth family office nobody.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have a rich uncle, so I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: any of these folks to begin with. But I you know,
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  Speaker 1: went into rooms and when I would meet people who
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  Speaker 1: believed in me, I would say, can you introduce me
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  Speaker 1: to five of your friends, And so now I have
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  Speaker 1: this unbelievable group who bet on me, who were just
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  Speaker 1: like private individuals who believed in the cause. And that
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  Speaker 1: was the blessing because this was such a rocky road
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  Speaker 1: to get this to market that as opposed to like
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  Speaker 1: a classic venture you know, capitalist who would have said
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  Speaker 1: no way the first time we hit a road bomb.
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  Speaker 1: They stuck with me all the way through and they're
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  Speaker 1: still still with me today.
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  Speaker 2: That's the persistence that it takes. And you found your people.
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  Speaker 1: I did. I really found my people. I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 1: so grateful for it. Even we'll get to this in
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  Speaker 1: the story, but when we sold the product and they
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  Speaker 1: never launched it, that group of people had a great return,
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  Speaker 1: but they were like still stuck with me and said
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  Speaker 1: go back and get it. We didn't do this for
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  Speaker 1: women not to have access to it, so they they're
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  Speaker 1: true to the cause. And I really appreciate that about.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and then selling the business, which is such
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  Speaker 2: a huge decision, I'm sure, but part of that usually
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  Speaker 2: means letting go of what happens after you're gone. Was
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  Speaker 2: that hard.
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  Speaker 1: So I really can't think of a period of my
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  Speaker 1: life in which I was more depressed. It's so this
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  Speaker 1: is it was your baby, Addie is me. I'm in
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  Speaker 1: so many ways like what it stands for. What it
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  Speaker 1: stood for to me and to sell it was the
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  Speaker 1: dream come true. Like it's a little bit you know,
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  Speaker 1: you have this beautiful baby, but if somebody else could
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  Speaker 1: raise your baby to its highest potential in the world,
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  Speaker 1: you say, okay, you know, like I want that. That's
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  Speaker 1: what I want for this baby. So it was arguably
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  Speaker 1: like the entrepreneur's dream come true. I sold the business.
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  Speaker 1: They were gonna get it to women everywhere, and then
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  Speaker 1: when they didn't do it, it was soul crushing, like
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  Speaker 1: I was so not only lost part of like what
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  Speaker 1: this was all about for me, but I felt like
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  Speaker 1: I'd let everyone down. I'd let all the women who
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  Speaker 1: were counting on me down, all the doctors who'd stood
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  Speaker 1: there next to me at the f day, I'd let
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  Speaker 1: them all down. And that was really hard to wrestle
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  Speaker 1: with until I like kicked myself in the ass and
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  Speaker 1: said nope, not on my watch, Like you fought to
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  Speaker 1: get this far, put the gloves back on, and then
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  Speaker 1: I went, you know, and I fought big pharma and
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  Speaker 1: I got it back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you ended up selling the company for a billion
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  Speaker 2: dollar yes, and then that's a incentive, yes, and then
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  Speaker 2: ultimately you got it back. What made you choose to
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  Speaker 2: step back up to the plate just that that it
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  Speaker 2: was your baby and you had so much passion.
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  Speaker 1: How in the world can a company we fought men
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  Speaker 1: had twenty six FDA approved treatment options before we ever
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  Speaker 1: got one, even though more women struggle than men do.
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  Speaker 1: And then a company bought it and they never gave
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  Speaker 1: women access to it. They shelved it. When was this
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  Speaker 1: That was in twenty and fifteen, ten years ago, they
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  Speaker 1: bought it. You know, so big week. I got this
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  Speaker 1: product the first ever in the world approved, you know,
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  Speaker 1: sell the company a billion dollars cash. Oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: people are going to care about women's health. We're so excited.
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  Speaker 1: And then literally it never gets launched. They like put
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  Speaker 1: it on the shelf in no way, like absolutely not,
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  Speaker 1: like we fought so that women could have access to it.
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  Speaker 1: I even to this day, you know, whether women take
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  Speaker 1: out of or don't take AUDI, that's not what this
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  Speaker 1: has ever been about.
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  Speaker 2: For me.
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  Speaker 1: What it's been about is that you deserve to know
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  Speaker 1: it exists. You deserve to talk about this and have
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  Speaker 1: equal access to medical treatments for medical conditions.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Okay, before we get into Addy and all its glory,
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  Speaker 2: tell me about the pink ceiling. Yeah, why is that
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  Speaker 2: something so important to you to get involved with firsts?
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  Speaker 2: That healthcare first that are for women, buy women?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, well, you know, having an exit like that, it
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  Speaker 1: was my second, but like it was, you know, big
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  Speaker 1: lots of news media around it. I think in that
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  Speaker 1: intervening period, as I was so sad that my baby
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  Speaker 1: wasn't being launched, I also thought to myself, like, you
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  Speaker 1: have a responsibility to help other women get there quicker
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  Speaker 1: than you did, Like how do I help this not
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  Speaker 1: happen to anyone else? How do I help them achieve
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  Speaker 1: their dreams? And how do we continue to push for
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  Speaker 1: first Like we can't have these massive discoveries in women's
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  Speaker 1: health for them to be shelved. And so I thought, well,
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  Speaker 1: then I'm going to start putting money behind it and
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  Speaker 1: see the things that I want in this world come
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  Speaker 1: to life. And you know, it's been so fun to do,
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  Speaker 1: and it's had a variety, like I stick to my
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  Speaker 1: lane of health, but you know, everything from a woman
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  Speaker 1: in Texas. She's a brilliant engineer. She created basically like
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  Speaker 1: a stud finder for the spine so that women's epidurals
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  Speaker 1: are easier. Okay, amazing, right, Like as opposed to like
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  Speaker 1: going like I think this is the right spot and
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  Speaker 1: like sticking a needle in. You know, she's got an
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  Speaker 1: actual device. It's like, no, this is the right spot.
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  Speaker 1: Put it in. And you know those kind of things.
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  Speaker 1: Bobby the Infant Formula Company, like talking you know, working
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  Speaker 1: with Laura there as they were going through some FDA,
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  Speaker 1: Like I feel like that's my lane. Like I understand
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  Speaker 1: when it's regulated, but just have loved to be behind
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  Speaker 1: these products for women that might not otherwise ever make
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  Speaker 1: it to market.
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  Speaker 2: You said, I got a billion dollars. Heck am I
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  Speaker 2: going to do with it?
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  Speaker 1: Success for me has never looked like money. It's looked
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  Speaker 1: like impact. And like you know, money is a conduit
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of good in this world can be
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  Speaker 1: a conduit for bad. You choose, right, how are you
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  Speaker 1: going to use it? And for me, it's been a
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  Speaker 1: responsibility to I think, help other women achieve their dreams.
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  Speaker 1: And I would like, you know, a billion more exits
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  Speaker 1: if you will for women.
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  Speaker 2: So that's so admirable. I love the idea of women
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  Speaker 2: building other women up. There's just nothing like it, no doubt.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. So part of choosing ourselves and there
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't be any shame around this topic is choosing to
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  Speaker 2: acknowledge that we as women are sexual beings. Right, We
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  Speaker 2: have desires and that's healthy, yes, But for some reason
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  Speaker 2: society doesn't encourage us to talk about that. And so
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  Speaker 2: when we experience dips in our libido certain times in
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  Speaker 2: our lives, we tend to not talk about that either. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and oftentimes internalize that and feel bad about ourselves because
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  Speaker 2: of it.
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  Speaker 1: But still no talking, right, so filled with so much
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  Speaker 1: shame and stigma. I you know, I really think about
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  Speaker 1: like our desires as transcendent, even of the bedroom, like
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  Speaker 1: in this conversation, right, Like what is our what brings
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  Speaker 1: us pleasure?
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  Speaker 2: It?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it's in the bedroom, and I think if you
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  Speaker 1: become in touch with that, it comes out. It's in
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  Speaker 1: the boardroom. It's all of those things. But this entitlement
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  Speaker 1: that women deserve, women deserve to be in touch with
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  Speaker 1: this part of themselves. And it's so weird to me
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  Speaker 1: that we it's so it's such an obvious truth for men,
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  Speaker 1: but for women it's like the silent unspoken.
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  Speaker 2: It's wild.
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  Speaker 1: I have a game that my fiance and I play.
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  Speaker 1: We go not that kind of game, but we can
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  Speaker 1: talk about that offline too. I we you know, when
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  Speaker 1: we go to cocktail parties. It's like I live a
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  Speaker 1: social experiment every day being in this business. So when
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  Speaker 1: we go in, at some point in the night, it
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  Speaker 1: comes to that conversation with like, what do you do?
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  Speaker 1: What do you do? And he always looks at them
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  Speaker 1: and he's like, buckle up, so just for it. So
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  Speaker 1: I start telling and if it's a you know, a
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  Speaker 1: woman and a man, a couple, they'll like the woman
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  Speaker 1: will immediately like lean back from the conversation, and the
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  Speaker 1: man will immediately lean in and he'll be can I
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  Speaker 1: take it? And I'm like, what I'm watching right here
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  Speaker 1: is actually all social conditioning. He understands he's entitled to it.
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  Speaker 1: He's entitled to a great, satisfying sex life. It's part
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  Speaker 1: of who he is. And she's worried she shouldn't talk
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  Speaker 1: about it. Now, by the end of the night, I'm
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  Speaker 1: in like a cluster of women and we're all talking
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  Speaker 1: about it though, but it's not. It's still like that
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  Speaker 1: social conditioning. It's fascinating. It sounds like that's the why, right, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: breaking that down, like why shouldn't we get to live
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  Speaker 1: life on our own terms? Why shouldn't we ask for
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  Speaker 1: the things that we need? None of us would be
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  Speaker 1: here without sex and trustake, I know this is gonna
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  Speaker 1: we're going to break the Internet with But if that's true,
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  Speaker 1: then it is a part of how we go through
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  Speaker 1: this life and it's part of our overall wellness.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you have a good sex life, something
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  Speaker 2: that brings you pleasure, I can see how that would
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  Speaker 2: transcend into all the parts of your life. Absolutely, the
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  Speaker 2: endorphins and all the chemicals that come from a good
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  Speaker 2: sex life.
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  Speaker 1: The most delicious cocktail our body releases, the most delicious
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  Speaker 1: cocktail of you know, hormones when we have good sex,
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  Speaker 1: and it really does like your in mental wellness, like
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  Speaker 1: I always describe over time, like my probably greatest privilege
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  Speaker 1: is how many women have shared with me this struggle,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, behind the closed doors or their bedroom,
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  Speaker 1: something that they don't They've revealed that to me. And
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  Speaker 1: what I can tell you is to a person different
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  Speaker 1: walks of life, different ages, everything. They feel disconnected. They
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  Speaker 1: feel disconnected from themselves and like that inner moxy you
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  Speaker 1: know that we have with our sex drive and our sexuality,
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  Speaker 1: and they feel disconnected from the person that arguably they
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  Speaker 1: want to be most connected to in this world. You
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  Speaker 1: tell me that restoring that doesn't make It's like life
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  Speaker 1: comes in color. I watch it like I feel it
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  Speaker 1: with friends who you know, are sort of living in
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  Speaker 1: this gray world. They've sort of shrunken back in themselves
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  Speaker 1: everything else, and then like the lights go on and
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  Speaker 1: they're just they're transformed.
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  Speaker 2: That's so beautiful. Wow, I love that. Okay, tell our
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  Speaker 2: listeners about Addie. Okay, little pink pill, Little pink this
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  Speaker 2: is what we've been doing. Yes, so Addie is this
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  Speaker 2: is our biggest sex organ. So we're brain flow, not
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  Speaker 2: blood flow. Okay, So Addie works on the brain. It's
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  Speaker 2: a non hormonal pill that women can take that increases
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  Speaker 2: their sex drive. It was discovered as a mood drug.
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  Speaker 2: So actually, if you think about like all all of
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  Speaker 2: these products, most of which women take, which are around
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  Speaker 2: you know, depression, anxiety, what's their number one side effect?
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  Speaker 2: Typically they decrease your sex drive. So The scientific thesis
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  Speaker 2: was simple, if we work on dopamine and serotonin and
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  Speaker 2: we cause your sex drive to go down, could we
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  Speaker 2: also work on dopamine serotonin cause it to go up.
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  Speaker 2: And the answer is yes, that's what Addie does. And
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  Speaker 2: so when I'm in you know, perimenopause and I'm starting
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  Speaker 2: to have mood disturbance, sleep disturbance, libido disturbance, that's really
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  Speaker 2: how ADDIE's working and what's going on there on dopamine
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  Speaker 2: and serotonin.
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  Speaker 1: So the media, you know, over time, has has called
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  Speaker 1: us the female viagra, And all I'll say is we're
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  Speaker 1: so much more interesting. Yeah, right, this is such a
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  Speaker 1: bigger This isn't directed blood flow. This is about like
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  Speaker 1: igniting the sex center of the brain so that you
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  Speaker 1: are responding to cues. And you know, this is what
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  Speaker 1: I love. So patients who respond I need I should
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  Speaker 1: say not. No medication is a panacea, right, No medication
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  Speaker 1: is perfect for everyone. So I always want to say that.
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  Speaker 1: But when I see women who've responded, what's so fun
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  Speaker 1: is that at the very beginning they talk about like Ooh,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I had the best sex dream, or you know, I
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: was watching a movie and I was like, wow, that
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I'm really turned on, Like let's go do that, and
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: they're like, I can't remember the lastime I had a
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: woman come up to me at a medical conference who's
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: a physician. She's on Addie and she's like, I sent
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: my first nude. I'm like, okay, don't show me, and
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: like those are the stories that delight me because they
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: actually reveal exactly how we are wired biologically and how
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: it's working. And I think, like it's as if female
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: sexuality is so mysterious and then you're like, no, like
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: this is right here, and when things go off kilter,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: it's not surprising. We don't think about it. We're lying
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: and bet we're doing our to do list. Oh like
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I gotta do this, this, this, and like you're not
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: in that place or that headspace for sex to ignite.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: So that's how it works, and.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: It makes sense because women are emotional beings and you
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: you know, men can just get it going and do
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: it anytime.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: You know, interestingly, I will say, like men don't get
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: an erection unless they have desire, So like there's a
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: very connection with like mechanics, if you will same with us,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: like you know, arousal lubrication, like if you look at
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: all of the models and sex, like, if I can
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: get the engine started in that part of that brain,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: like the quality improves. We actually, in our clinical size,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: we had to prove that not only that you wanted
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: to have sex, but when you had sex, that it
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: was satisfying. And that's that's really the core relations.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: So this is such good stuff.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: It's very very fun sex ed for adults.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I need it. I love it. I'm not often so
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: open about talking about sex, but I feel like this
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: is such important information all women need to have access
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: to because you know what, like, as you said, it's
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: true that we are emotional beings, and that's important right
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: talking about that, But I think what happens in women's
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: health all too often is we end there you're just
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: emotion So when you come in with medical symptoms, I
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: first pat you on the shoulder and I tell you
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: just relax. You're just freaking out, And like that shows
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: up when if you're having a heart attack, if you
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: have PCOS, if you go on and on and on,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: and it's because like we are, but that's not our
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: full picture. And maybe similar for men, like we immediately
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: think men are all men are biology like they have
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: a problem, fix it, Like we we're gonna fix it.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: We're gonna give them a solution. And for women, like
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: for too long in medicine, our solution is take a
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: bubble bath.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: That's your prescription.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, I will take that prescription, but I want more.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: That's right. Like, That's that I think is exactly it
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: not biology to the exclusion of all of that conversation,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: right like self care, you know, all all of those things, scheduling,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: date night, making it, all of those things are very valid,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: but they can't be the full picture.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: That's that's really I think, at least from my standpoint,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: my crusade. And I'll I say this to audiences today
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: because I feel like everyone's talking about GLP ones or
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: weight loss medications and zempimunjar, et cetera. And I'm like,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: what is that? Actually, what's the takeaway? The takeaway is
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: for so long we've told, you know, folks who struggle
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: with weight, work out more, eat better, do this, do that,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: and a little bit we're like, I know that it
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: places blamed. You're like, oh, but I'm yeah, I'm trying.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I'm doing this and I've done this. Fad died and
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: this fad diet, and then all of a sudden a
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: medication comes along and we're all like, wait, it's genetics,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: and like it's such an obvious truth. How could we
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: have missed it. It doesn't mean don't eat well, exercise,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: do all of those things that are important for your lifestyle.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: But again, like, let's be kind to everybody by acknowledging
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: they are a biological being and they may be struggling
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: with something for which there is a medical solution.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, so specifically, tell me what are the positives you
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: will see from taking addia? Okay? What if are there
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: side effects? Yes? For sure the details.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Everything has side effects, whether it's a supplement or an
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: over the counter or a medication. What I likes about medications,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: We know what they are because we've done the extensive
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: research and studies in them. So let's start there. Side
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: of effects common to Addie our sleepiness, dizzyness, nausea, those
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: are our top three. Less than two percent of women
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: in our clinical trials discontinue due to any side effect
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: less than well tolerated. You know, like I said, we're
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: not all one size fits all, so some woman might
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: not tolerate another woman will. It's why you take it
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: daily at bedtime. So that's really the key. It's not
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: for everybody. If you have liver impairment, you're not ready
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: for Addie. You know, it's not common in our age band,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: but that's like a patient type that they would look
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: out for. And doctors of course know all this from prescription.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: What should you expect? So if you take Addie, it's
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: building in your system over time. Remember we're working on
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: we're working on neurotransmitters, so it's building, so it starts
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: to come alive with exactly like I told you, those
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: spontaneous thoughts or little fantasies. There's an obgyn out of Ohio.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I love listening to her speak because she says she
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: had a patient comeback and she's like, I can't stop
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: thinking about Lebron James. And she was like, are you
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: a basketball fan? And she's like, not really no, but
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: you know, and who knows, who knows who yours will be.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: But I think it's again, it's that like that place
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: in the brain waking up, percolating, responding to sexual cues.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I think that also is receptivity to partner that might
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: have been missing, you know, you might have been like
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: going to bed early just to avoid this, avoiding sex, avoiding.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Staying awake while when they go to sleep.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear it all the time. So it's it's receptivity,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: even initiation, like you're feeling you're sexy. So I think
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: that's really like it's a it's a waking up of
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: like an inner drive. It's sex drive, right, So that
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: that's what you can expect from it, I think, is
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: to feel that and because of how it works, you know,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: because it's working on you're getting sort of that daily
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: dose of dopamine. We'll hear from a lot of patients
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: about food, so mood, I feel good sleep. Sleep is
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: a side effect for many women. And that's really getting
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: disturbed right now. Like I talked to so manyone whence
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: the last time you got a good night of sleep?
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: And that's all of those so important. So I think
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: those are you know, realistically, what you can expect from
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: from the medication. It's not zero to sixty, So I
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: do think, you know, sometimes because the media like to
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: call it, of course they had to call it the
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: male drug, right, female viagram. I'm still waiting for them
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: to invent a male addie, because I think men should
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: have a male addie right transmitter exactly right. But you know,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I think, like, you're not going to take it and
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: swing from the chandeliers tonight. I just want to set
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: that expectation with everybody. I can't remember my first press interview.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: She's like, but what if Channing Tatum comes to the table,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: like are you going home with him? And I'm like, actually,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: probably not the first night.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Like it's it's.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Not it takes time, yes, I think it's It's much
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: like so many products we take, you know, for medical conditions,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: like it takes a minute to like your system to adjust.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: It's bringing you back to that place. It's just like
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't take an antidepressant tonight and become euphoric. You'd
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: be restored back to a place you once to work.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: It takes time at builds, whereas the viagra is on demand. Yep,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: it is a situation.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: It is. We're not on demand when it comes to sex.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: And I love that about us. I do too. I
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: actually love that even in our like even in our
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: market testing, women love that about us. I love that
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: we do like we are very well aware, so you know,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: taking something daily and finally, like the kids are asleep
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: or it's date night or something like it. It's there right,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: like it's the it's on board.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: It's on board. I'm a little confused. I read on
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: your website that Addie is not for menopausal women.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I'll tell you that distinction. So we had
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: to study pre menopausal prepairs right and post separately. We
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: are at the FDA now for postmenopausal, so that's great.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: They're reviewing it right now. We're already approved in Canada
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: for postmenopausal. But today in the United States, our indication
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: is for pre so up until the time you go
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: through menopause, but the data is already published in menopause.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Oh. I love this because, yeah, perimenopause can last for
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: years and years and years, and that can really affect
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: your relationship when you have no sex drive, no doubt
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: for those perimenopausal years. It's also when your menopausal doctor
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Haer told me that menopause lasts for one day, yes,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: and then you're after that.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: You are your post y.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: It's like a single day in your life day that's
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: that day you have disappointment.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: For me, I want like longer to celebrate it. That's great.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so then you have the rest of your
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: life basically sure. And if your sex drive doesn't come
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: back yeh, or doesn't you know kick in, yes, then
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: you're just not It's not a work out for you.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: There's very way weird things in women's health. I know
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: you'll you'll know this, and there's far too vast to
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: go into for the whole audience. But it's a little unusual.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: We had to study women separately pre and postment apostle
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: because it's brain chemistry. It's not hormones, right, ADDIE's non hormonal,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: so it's a it's a funny thing. But we're really
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: excited about the review of our data right now because
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: we would be the first ever FDA approval for that too.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: So keep your fingers crossed and I'm coming back on
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the day that we get it.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I love that. I mean, I'm so I have all
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: of my fingers and toes cross. Okay, specific can you
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: drink alcohol so you can't? Yes, short answer yes, Because
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Addie makes you sleepy, you think about anything else that
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: might also make you sleepy, combining it.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: This is good common sense advice. So our language actually
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: looks like tile. It all addie. If you have three
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: or more drinks, we say skip the dose that night.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: If you're going out to the you know, to party
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: with the girls, just skip your dose that night. And
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: it's really about like compounding effects basically, So would it
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: make you extra sleepy? So doctors know that language for us?
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: If you're out on a bendor, the answer is no,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: but yes you can safely use if you're having a
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: couple of glasses of wine with dinner, and you know,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: taking addis directed at bedtime.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, yes, at bed time. That helps with the sleepy part, yes, okay.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: What I love about this conversation is that so many
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: of us know about the little blue pill that we
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: talked about for men, and people talk about it so openly.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I think that all women out there should be talking
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: about this little pink pill just as much, because we
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: deserve it. We deserve to have good sexual health, and
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I think that we are so prettydispositioned to somehow forget
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: that or not allow ourselves. That's mindset I know. I
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: think it's rooted in pleasure. I think it's rooted in
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: like so much shame around sex for us, Like we
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: are told we are here for reproduction that has reinforced
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: our entire life. We are only sort of taken seriously
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: if pain is present, like we never enter into the
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: realm of the pleasure conversation so messed up.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: It's so messed up. I mean, I really do. Every
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: audience I get an opportunity to speak, this is my
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: first question. By a show of hands, how many of
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: you know that there's a little pink pill for women?
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: And you know, thankfully more hands are starting to raise,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: but for years it's almost no hands in the room.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: And then I say, well, then I have to ask
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: the obvious next question, how many of you know there's
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: a blue pill for men? And the entire audience raises
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: their hand, and I'm like, well, you couldn't have missed
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: it because it was the cover of Time magazine and
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: we have three times as many patients worth of data.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: This women's product has more science. So how has it
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: not been the cover of every magazine.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: To get you? On the cover of Time, Let's do
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: you and this little pink pill? I am here are.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Little pink pills, right, yep, yep.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: When women think about lolbido, they kind of associate it
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: with aging, and that's just a natural thing that happens
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: and there's nothing you can do about it. Not true,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: not true, not true. And also I think people think
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: of that for Addie, and you'd be surprised. This is
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: pretty indiscriminate across the age bands, so across all of
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: our clinical trials, not necessarily our indication, you know, as
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: FDA gives you a narrower band.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: We studied eighteen to eighty. Really, and you know, your
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: distress is high, Like I can get stopped outside of
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: the you know, when I'm going to some of my
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: team's like wedding showers or the bridal showers, and like
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: young women are stopping me, Like Sunday, Sindy. You know,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I was struggling, like with dating because I really have
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: such a low sex drive and I'm so like, you know,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: it's making me not get out there socially, and I
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: mean I love that. So it's not like this is
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: one thing if I had one wish, We're going to
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: make so many things happen out of this podcast. Time
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: agg all it we have so many things. But let
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: me put this out there to everybody. If we could
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: change one word in women's health, we would quit telling
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: women things that they struggle with are normal, and we
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: would say they are common, because once we acknowledge it's common,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: we continue to explore what we might do to solve it.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: As soon as we tell her it's normal, Yeah, you
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: just walk away it's normal. Deal with it like it's
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: not normal. Like actually losing your sex trip is not normal.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: It's common, common, and there are things you can do
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: for it, many things you can do for it. But
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I think that's crucial, and so I give that even
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: to the audience as a watch out that if if
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: you're in a medical office and you're talking about something
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: you're really struggling with that maybe you even are embarrassed
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: to be discussing and they tell you it's normal, you
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: have to push through. You have to like you're your
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: own advocate.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: What happens? What should we say when the doctor says, oh,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: that's normal.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: You should say. I think what you say to them
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: is is it normal or is it common? And what
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: are the biological issues that might be going on? Because
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: what they're doing is they're saying emotion normal, move on,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: good luck, and you just have to say normal or common.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Because I've read there's a lot of women who struggle
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: with this, what are my options? Again? Nothing if it's
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: too complicated for them to figure out, you know what's
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: not complicated for them to tell you what solutions there
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: are for it. That's not complicated.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: It shouldn't be. Yeah, so interesting. Okay, where can women
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: go to get addie? Do they go to their grinecologist?
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: And is it covered by insurance?
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Great questions. So to get Addie. First, I'm going to say,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: go to our site ADI dot com because we have
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: a list of doctors in your area, so you'll know
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: that you're going to somebody who is passionate about this,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: because I feel like so many women run into their
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: doctor and run straight into a brick wall because they're
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: not trained.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: They don't know about it.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: And actually that's true of obgyn's too. So while we
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: have wonderful obgyn champions, of course of Addie, they're actually
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: trained in reproduction and fertility. We are reproductive beings for them.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: So pleasure is often not asked like I ask, how
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: many of you have been asked by your OBGN how's
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: your sex life? They're at the front end. If they're
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: asking you that question, they're going above and beyond to
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: become educated. What I find fascinating is that so many
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: women walk into the environments in which like a medspolike
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: environment where they're talking about vulnerabilities. They're talking about maybe
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: it's the GLP ones, maybe it's hormone replacement therapy, maybe
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: it's just mike toxin or whatever that might be. You've
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: kind of let your guard down. So we're seeing a
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: lot of adoption of Addie in that space. But the
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: simple answer really for the audience is find somebody on
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: our website, because I will tell you for sure, doctors
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: are not educated on this, and I don't want you
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: to be met with resistance or a blank stare back
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: at you, because there are physicians that are really passionate
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: about this.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it was so interesting when I had
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: doctor harn and she said that she was a terrible
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: gynecologist for many years. Yeah, and that took so much courage,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: I think for her to admit that I agree, and
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: then to sort of adjust course. I know.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, there are people. I think Mary Claire has
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: done so much to like just inspire other doctors to
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: go back and get educated, like you must be solving
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: these challenges. I will share a story. It's a wonderful woman.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Her name is doctor Julian Burt. She's an OBQ in
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Georgia. Shout out. And she told a similar
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: story to me where she said, you know, I had
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: this patient who would come in and ask me about
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: this issue about her libido. And I was always like, what, Like,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: you're good, it's normal, Ada, and she said, And one
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: day she walked her out to the checkout and her
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: husband was sitting in the waiting room waiting for her,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: and she said, this was the most beautiful man she'd
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: ever seen. And she's like, wait, what, Like, what's going on?
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: What's the problem that's going on? And she actually really
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: that patient inspired her. She's like, I cannot be doing this.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I can't be going to Google. I need to go
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: be educated. And she was so excited when Addie came out,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: but she lost the patient. So she thought, I finally
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: have something I can I can help her with something.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: She was textbook for this diagnosis, and she said she
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: ran into her at Costco and.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: She's like, I'm so excited, I'm so exacy.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I have something for you. And she said, oh too late,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: doctor Bert, we got divorced.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Oh god, And she said that terrible story.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: It's with me every day and I'm like, that is Look,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: not all stories are going that way. That maybe is
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: the most dramatic. However, when we don't help women with
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the things they're asking for, like, what is our responsibility
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: in it? Here's what I love. This has been a
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: long road for me. Of course, it's my deep passion
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: to change this conversation. Today, you can't be board certified
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: if you're a family practice internal med OBIQI n or
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: urologist without answering a test question on addie. Great, we're
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: changing it. It takes decades to change medical establishment, but
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I really do. My niece just had a baby, and
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I said, I'm promising her that like the world in
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: which her daughter grows up, she'll think it's ridiculous. We
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: didn't talk about this.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: There's just so many, so many fascinating, interesting, important developments
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: in women's health is happening now many and it's exciting.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: It is exciting. I think it's exciting, and I think
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: the hero of the story are women who just took charge.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: They don't just got up and said stop, give me
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: real solutions. I want things studied in my body, I
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: want things proven and I think that we're actually causing
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: the sea change.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Definitely. Oh I love women so much.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Me too.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, I asked you if it was covered by interro.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. The answer is, I mean, obviously it
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: depends on your insur if you have a great employer,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: the answer is yes. And it's actually a reasonable conversation
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: for you to have with your employer if it gets rejected,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: because I promise you they covered the ed meds. I
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: tell a terrible story again. Oh my gosh, I'm Debbie
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: down around this one. But last year, I like, I
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: had to close the door of my office and just scream,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: and my whole team was like, what's happening? And a
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: doctor had sent me a rejection notice from Blue Cross
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Shield that said they would pay for the woman's addy,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: but first she needed to try marriage counseling. What what
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: what the actual that is offensive? To which I would say,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I'll give them my full proceeds of selling sprout if
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: they can show me one time they did that for
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: an edy medication with the man. Oh my god, that
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: is the that's the trap, right, that is the trap.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: And that's even the trap for you know doctors when
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: they patch you on the shoulder. They're reinforcing being able
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: to get away with that. So the answer is not always,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: but it should. If it doesn't, ask your employer, and
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: you know, if you're too shy. At a minimum, we've
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: got cash coupons through you know, good RX and through
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: med spas and stuff that you can at least get it.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: But you should fight like I. We fight it. We
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: fight it every day. We you know, I went berserk
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: when that happened on behalf of all women. I'd like
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: to think, and but I, you know, I need everybody
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: to kind of do their own fighting too if we
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: want to change it.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, so I heard that on your website. Yes you
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: can do telehealth. Yes appointments so you don't even have
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: to go to the doctor. Yes you can do this
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: from home.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. So honestly, when we set this up, I thought,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I just want women to be talking to somebody who's
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: educated about this, an expert, so you can like it.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: If there's a blush factor for this, just go to
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: addie dot com. You'll talk to a doctor license in
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: your state. You do it completely online. They check on
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: the medications you're on, if you're appropriate for it or not,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: and it ships to your doorsteps. So don't let shyness
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: or a blush factor keep you from addressing this that
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: was important to us too. Every way we can lift
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: the stigma and increase access around this conversation.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Yep, Okay, before I let you go, Cyndi Eker, what
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: was your last I choose me moment?
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, I choose me having great sex last night.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, yay, that's a choice because you chose to take
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: your health, your sexual health in your own hands. Yeah,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: and do something about it.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: But I did when we started at the top and
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: I said how much it means to me to be here.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I think I Choose me has been this whole journey
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: for me, every step along the way, whether it was
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: being laughed at when I raised money for it, and
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: choosing me in that like, I can do this, I
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: will find the way, you know, choosing me fighting the FDA,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: like all of it, every step of the way. And
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: I think you know today choosing me is continuing to
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: get out there and get loud about this until it
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: changes in the way that I think it deserves to.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I love your passion, Thank you, I love your conviction.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Thank you. You are very strong and inspiring and I'm
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: so happy you were with us today.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Thank you,