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Episode One Hundred Ninety Six: As I Was Saying · The Death Of Journalism

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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode number one hundred and ninety six of
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Speaker 1: the Death of Journalism Podcasts. My name is John Zigler.
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Speaker 1: I'm your host on today's show. The Harris campaign makes
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Speaker 1: a massive shift in their interview strategy. Trump makes a
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Speaker 1: dramatic return to Butler Pennsylvania Are with the benefit of
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Speaker 1: Hindsight podcast bizarrely and tellingly gets dragged into a Missouri
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Speaker 1: state court case, and did ESPN Game Day inadvertently reveals
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Speaker 1: some hope for gen Z even in the most liberal
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Speaker 1: of communities. We begin this episode of the podcast with
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Speaker 1: the biggest media political story, certainly of the week, and
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Speaker 1: maybe even larger than that if you think about it
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Speaker 1: in particular ways. I'm referring to Kamala Harris suddenly going
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Speaker 1: from doing almost no media interviews to doing a slew
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Speaker 1: of media interviews with quite a disparity in the decisions
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Speaker 1: that she has made or her campaign has made regarding
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Speaker 1: with whom she will do an interview. Literally everything from
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Speaker 1: Sixty Minutes to the Call Her Daddy podcast, both of
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Speaker 1: which we will talk about. But it's not just sixty
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Speaker 1: Minutes and Call Her Daddy, but also the Late Show
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Speaker 1: with Stephen Colbert, where he is literally going to be
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Speaker 1: putting rose petals down in her path and tossing her softballs,
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Speaker 1: probably pre arranged softballs, similar to what will happen when
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Speaker 1: she goes on the view when the Liberal Lady's there
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Speaker 1: will be slobbering all over her. And also Harris will
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Speaker 1: be interviewed by Howard Stern, who, in my opinion, has
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Speaker 1: completely lost his mind. He's a total fraud now based
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Speaker 1: upon what he was when he became famous. He's a
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Speaker 1: super lib by the way, he's also probably the most
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Speaker 1: crazy major media personality when it comes to COVID and
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Speaker 1: how it altered his life. He's literally lost his mind.
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Speaker 1: But he will be campaigning for Kamala Harris when he
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Speaker 1: interviews her. So that's a long list. There's actually others involved.
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Speaker 1: She's going to be doing a Univision interview as well.
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Speaker 1: But that's a very dramatic change in strategy when it
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Speaker 1: comes to Harris and the issue of interviews. And there's
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Speaker 1: at least two aspects of this that I find to
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Speaker 1: be interesting. The most obvious is, okay, is this change
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Speaker 1: in strategy because the campaign is concerned, worried are they
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Speaker 1: now losing? Are they needed to change strategy? Because the
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Speaker 1: narrative that they were in control this race has suddenly shifted.
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Speaker 1: And are they pressing the panic button? I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's certainly consistent with that theory. A lot
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Speaker 1: of Trump fans have bought into that, because I believe
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Speaker 1: a lot of Trump fans are almost delusional in their
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Speaker 1: optimism about how this is all going to turn out.
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Speaker 1: I will get to, as I always do in every episode,
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Speaker 1: where I think the race stands. But I think we're
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Speaker 1: very close to a fifty to fifty race, with maybe
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Speaker 1: Harris having a little bit of an edge because of
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Speaker 1: the blue wall in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. But this
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Speaker 1: is clearly a wide open race. Trump fans think they
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Speaker 1: haven't logged. A lot of Harris fans think they're in
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Speaker 1: very good shape. But is this shift in media strategy
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Speaker 1: and indication of aha, the internal polling for Harris is bad,
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Speaker 1: so they have to shift their strategy and they can't
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Speaker 1: hide her anymore. Maybe this is also possibly a longer
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Speaker 1: term strategy. I mean, I think you at least have
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Speaker 1: to consider the possibility that this was always the plan.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if it was always the plan, it's not
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Speaker 1: a bad way of doing this, you create scarcity at
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Speaker 1: the beginning. You let the media create her momentum for her.
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Speaker 1: She's not seen very much, so every time she is seen,
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Speaker 1: it's a big deal. Every interview she does gets more attention.
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Speaker 1: Because there's an inherent scarcity. Every media outlet that gets
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Speaker 1: an interview with her makes a huge deal out of
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Speaker 1: it and provides free promotion for it. And so you know,
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Speaker 1: while there was no question that they were keeping her
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Speaker 1: from difficult questioning as much as possible, largely because she's
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Speaker 1: not good at answering questions and has never really been
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Speaker 1: vetted in her entire career, there is also, from a
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Speaker 1: political economic perspective, a value in creating scarcity. Well, now
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Speaker 1: we're into October, we've got less than a month left
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Speaker 1: in the campaign. There's no more real value in creating scarcity.
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Speaker 1: You need to cash in the value you have created
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Speaker 1: by this scarcity phenomenon. So now they're cashing in. They
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Speaker 1: created scarcity. So now they're providing supply, and so they're
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Speaker 1: creating providing a lot of supply in a very short
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Speaker 1: period of time with a series of very very diverse interviews.
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Speaker 1: It is possible that that was always the plan. If
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Speaker 1: you told me, you know, if we had known this,
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Speaker 1: which obviously there was no way for that to happen.
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Speaker 1: But if you know, if someone had laid out that
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Speaker 1: plan a couple of months ago, I would have said, strategically,
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Speaker 1: that makes sense. So I think that that possibility at
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Speaker 1: least has to be taken into consideration. A lot of
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Speaker 1: Trump fans are automatically saying, oh, she's changing strategy, so
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Speaker 1: therefore that must mean that she's losing. Well, no, not
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Speaker 1: everybody does it by the seat of their pants or
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Speaker 1: on whatever whim they're they're experiencing at the moment, like
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump does. It's still possible for a campaign to
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Speaker 1: have a longer term strategy, and I think that's possibly
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Speaker 1: what was always in the plan for Kamala Harris. I
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Speaker 1: don't know that, because it's certainly consistent with the fact
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Speaker 1: that there does seem to be a shift in the
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Speaker 1: direction of the win for whatever reason, that is now
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Speaker 1: going more in Trump's direction with regard to the trends
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Speaker 1: and the polls than in Harris's direction. The second part
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Speaker 1: of this change in strategy with regard to interviews, that
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Speaker 1: I find very interesting. Obviously, as the host of the
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Speaker 1: Death of Journalism podcast is what this says about the
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Speaker 1: state of the news media and the relevance of the
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Speaker 1: traditional news interview. And this is something that I have
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Speaker 1: referenced many times during this campaign. I've talked about it
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Speaker 1: on News Nation Television, where I think we are seeing
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Speaker 1: the world dramatically change before our eyes, and I think
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Speaker 1: all the old rules no longer are really very relevant.
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Speaker 1: And I think that we're seeing more of that by
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Speaker 1: the choices that the Harris campaign has made regarding who
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Speaker 1: they're going to do interviews with. I mean, we literally
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Speaker 1: have everything from the most legacy of all legacy outlets,
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Speaker 1: CBS in sixty minutes, to the most unorthodox interview probably
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Speaker 1: in presidential history, which is the Call Her Daddy podcast.
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Speaker 1: Now I want to deal with both of them and
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Speaker 1: everything in between. Obviously, as I've already referenced with regard
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Speaker 1: to sixty minutes, the thing about the sixty minutes interview
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Speaker 1: is that this has always been a tradition. And you know,
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Speaker 1: the tradition has been for both presidential candidates to go
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Speaker 1: on sixty minutes, largely because of the prestige that sixty
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Speaker 1: minutes brings with it and the credibility and so This
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Speaker 1: has always been one of those things that candidates thought
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Speaker 1: that they had to do well. Trump declined the invitation.
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Speaker 1: I think this was a mistake by Trump. It was
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Speaker 1: based in the idea that when he went on sixty
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Speaker 1: minutes with Leslie Stahl, she lied about the Hunter Biden laptop.
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Speaker 1: He told the truth. They've never apologized. Okay, fine, I
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Speaker 1: get that principal stand if you want to call it that,
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Speaker 1: But why not go on sixty minutes and make that
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Speaker 1: the issue. Stick it to them? You were largely, if
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Speaker 1: not entirely right on that issue. They were completely wrong,
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Speaker 1: So why not go on and make your case. I
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Speaker 1: don't understand why you would not do that if you're
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. But he advocated the space to Kamala Harris,
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Speaker 1: and of course she didn't say very much that was newsworthy.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't a particularly tough interview, but it was probably
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Speaker 1: tougher than most of her interviews. Certainly, the series of
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Speaker 1: interviews that she's going to do now is almost assuredly
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Speaker 1: the most difficult to get through from a Newsmaking perspective.
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Speaker 1: The one clip I want to play deals with the
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Speaker 1: situation with regard to Israel. Obviously, it's important context, we're
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Speaker 1: at the one year anniversary of the October seventh attacks,
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Speaker 1: although that did not stop Kamala Harris from basically going
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Speaker 1: out of her way to diss Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
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Speaker 1: Netan Yahoo, because she was asked whether or not he
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Speaker 1: is a good ally to the United States, and she
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Speaker 1: very clearly dodged the question, which was a really pretty
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Speaker 1: amazing thing to do or to not do, to not
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Speaker 1: at least pay lip service to the Israeli Prime Minister
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Speaker 1: in what was clearly a political maneuver on her part,
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Speaker 1: right around the anniversary of the attack. Obviously in a
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Speaker 1: situation where Israel has just been attacked by Iran. By
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Speaker 1: the way, sixty minutes did not nail her to the
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Speaker 1: wall as they should have, because the last I believe
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Speaker 1: this is the last time she went in sixteen minutes,
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Speaker 1: she was asked why should Iran or what would you
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Speaker 1: say to Iran with regard to a potential attack on Israel,
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Speaker 1: and she basically repeated what Joe Biden had told sixty
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Speaker 1: minutes previously, which was a one word answer, don't. Well
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Speaker 1: they did, so what comes next? First of all, not
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Speaker 1: only what comes next, but why didn't they listen to you,
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Speaker 1: that would be a line of inquiry that would be
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Speaker 1: very interesting. So your word, your warning to Iran clearly
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Speaker 1: had no meaning. Vice President Harris, what do you say
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Speaker 1: about that? Well, nothing like that directly came about in
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Speaker 1: the sixteen minutes interview. But there was this moment which
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Speaker 1: is getting a lot of attention, where Harris declines to
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Speaker 1: describe Benjamin Netan Yahoo as a close ally of the
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Speaker 1: United States. And here's what that sounded like on C
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Speaker 1: in sixty minutes.
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Speaker 2: Do we have a real close ally in prime Minister
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Speaker 2: of Netan Yahoo?
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Speaker 3: I think, with all due respect, the better question is
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Speaker 3: do we have an important alliance between the American people
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Speaker 3: and the Israeli people? And the answer to that question
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Speaker 3: is yes.
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Speaker 1: I thought that was a cheap shot. I thought that
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Speaker 1: was unnecessary, especially given the timing, the timing of the anniversary,
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Speaker 1: the timing of the Iran attack on Israel. Obviously, this
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Speaker 1: will be perceived as a lack of confidence by the
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Speaker 1: United States in net and Yahoo, which will undermine him
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Speaker 1: at least to some degree during a very vulnerable situation.
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Speaker 1: And I thought that was wrong, That was a mistake.
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Speaker 1: And she Harris is right to get criticized for that. Now,
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Speaker 1: the other end of the spectrum when it comes to
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Speaker 1: the Harris interviews is the Call Her Daddy podcast, and
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Speaker 1: this has been getting way way more attention than the
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Speaker 1: sixty minutes interview, which again I think goes to this
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Speaker 1: issue of how dramatically the media landscape is shifting. I mean,
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Speaker 1: the idea that a presidential candidate, this was unfathomable, unfathomable
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Speaker 1: eight nine years ago, unfathomable someone had said to you,
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Speaker 1: you know, the Democratic or the Republican presidential nominee is
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Speaker 1: going to do an interview with a woman that the
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Speaker 1: vast majority of the country has never heard of before.
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Speaker 1: Alex Cooper, although she has a very very popular podcast
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Speaker 1: called Call Her Daddy, a podcast that is based generously
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Speaker 1: in the issue of female sexuality and empowerment, but likes
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Speaker 1: to focus a lot on blowjobs. That's not an exaggeration,
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Speaker 1: that's not hyperbole. That's what this podcast is is probably
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Speaker 1: most well known for. In fact, until the Harris interview,
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Speaker 1: their most prominent recent interview was with Katie Perry, the singer,
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Speaker 1: because she talked about how she likes to give her
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Speaker 1: husband Orlando Bloom blowjobs when he does the dishes or
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Speaker 1: gets the kitchen clean, which I only think works if
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Speaker 1: you're Orlando Bloom. For the record, I think that Orlando
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Speaker 1: Bloom has a lot better opportunity, a lot better chance
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Speaker 1: of getting a blowjob when he cleans up the kitchen
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Speaker 1: than most husbands do. That's just been my experience and
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Speaker 1: my perception of reality. Even if Katy Perry was really
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Speaker 1: telling the truth, which I don't know if she was
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Speaker 1: or not, but that's what this podcast is about. So
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Speaker 1: if you had said eight nine years ago that the
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Speaker 1: a major presidential nominee was going to go on that
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Speaker 1: podcast and that it would get way more attention than
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Speaker 1: an interview with sixty minutes, people would have told you crazy.
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Speaker 1: There was no possibility of that happening, and for better
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Speaker 1: or for worse, that's where we are now. I don't
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Speaker 1: have a big problem with a candidate doing a diverse
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Speaker 1: series of interviews. Obviously, the media world has changed. Podcasting
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Speaker 1: has become a big part of that media landscape, and
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Speaker 1: so you know, doing an interview like this, I don't
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Speaker 1: think it should be forbidden, but I also think it
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Speaker 1: should be put in its proper context, and I also
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Speaker 1: think it should be held to at least some semblance
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Speaker 1: of a standard, because you know when she went when
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Speaker 1: Harris went on Call Her Daddy, she basically got all
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Speaker 1: the benefits of oh my gosh, you know, she's doing
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Speaker 1: a real girl's podcast, and you know how daring is this.
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Speaker 1: And we're not going to talk issues. We're going to
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Speaker 1: talk about women and women's health and women's ISSU shoes
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Speaker 1: and mostly we're gonna lie about abortion and talk about tampons,
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Speaker 1: which is what essentially ended up happening. But okay, to me,
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Speaker 1: I'm fine with the concept. But let's be at least
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Speaker 1: a little consistent, because the reality is that if the host,
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Speaker 1: Alex Cooper wasn't doing propaganda for Kamala Harrison, she bent
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Speaker 1: over backwards to try to pretend that she wasn't because
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Speaker 1: I'm sure she's terrified of losing a lot of fan
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Speaker 1: base that is not liberal because she doesn't do a
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Speaker 1: political show, so I'm sure she has a lot of
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Speaker 1: conservative fans or Trump fans that are part of her audience.
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Speaker 1: So she did this virtue signaling thing where I don't
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Speaker 1: want to get involved, and I thought about it, and
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Speaker 1: I offered Trump to come on the show, which, by
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Speaker 1: the way. In this case, I don't buy that sixty minutes.
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Speaker 1: I think that has more relevance that Okay, Trump backed out.
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Speaker 1: It made the offer to both sides. No one's gonna
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Speaker 1: blame sixty minutes for interview and Kamala Harris when Trump
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Speaker 1: backs out. But the idea that Harris accepts to go
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Speaker 1: on a show about women, and you justify that because
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Speaker 1: well Trump didn't accept our invitation, Now that's not the
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Speaker 1: way it works, because effectively, what would then happen is
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Speaker 1: you would be creating a situation where Harris could force
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Speaker 1: Trump to go on the Call Her Daddy podcast simply
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Speaker 1: because she agreed to do it. That doesn't make any sense,
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Speaker 1: especially given the nature of the Call Her Daddy podcast.
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Speaker 1: But well, the part of this that bothers me is,
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Speaker 1: all right, if you're gonna take the good of going
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Speaker 1: on the Call Her Daddy podcast, you ought to be
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Speaker 1: subjected to the bad. And what I mean by the
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Speaker 1: bad is let's talk about relevant issues with regard to
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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris and what Alex Cooper would normally talk about
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Speaker 1: if she was a guest on the Call Her Daddy podcast.
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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about below jobs, and I'm not suggesting that,
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Speaker 1: But we do have a situation where this woman's career,
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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris's career was dramatically impacted by her sexual relationships,
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Speaker 1: most importantly with Willie Brown, maybe also with Montel Williams,
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Speaker 1: So that should be relevant. That should be more than
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Speaker 1: fair game. Hey, Kamala, tell us about the affair you
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Speaker 1: had with married man Willie Brown, who has talked publicly
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Speaker 1: about how that helped your career. What did you learn
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Speaker 1: from that experience? What should other women learn from that experience?
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Speaker 1: Should should that be a path that women go down?
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Speaker 1: Is that a tactic that women should use to get
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Speaker 1: ahead when it comes to their career? Not to mention
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Speaker 1: also sorts of other aspects of the relationships, the affairs
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Speaker 1: with Willy Brown and Montel Williams. And then there's the
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Speaker 1: issue of the fact that there is brand new sex
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Speaker 1: abuse allegations against her husband, which we're also not brought
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Speaker 1: up in this Call Her Daddy interview. By the way,
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Speaker 1: I'm not making a big deal about the sex abuse
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Speaker 1: allegations against Kamala Harris's husband because the person has not
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Speaker 1: been named, there's some corroborating evidence. It's I'm not one
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Speaker 1: hundred percent sure how relevant it is. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if the evidence reaches the threshold. We're dealing in an
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Speaker 1: unprecedented situation because this is a man who's obviously not
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Speaker 1: the candidate. It's not even a relationship with Harris that
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Speaker 1: we're talking about here, So I don't think it's the
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Speaker 1: biggest topic in the world. I do think that if
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Speaker 1: this was happening in Trump world, the media would be
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Speaker 1: way more interested in it. And I also think that
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Speaker 1: it would be a very relevant question for Harris to
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Speaker 1: be asked on the Call Her Daddy podcast. None of
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Speaker 1: that happened. None of that. Instead, like I said, they
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Speaker 1: lied about abortion a whole bunch, and they talked about tampons.
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Speaker 1: I do want to play one clip from the interview,
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Speaker 1: and I don't want to play a parody clip that
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Speaker 1: is really incredibly close to what the interview should have
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Speaker 1: been had this been done in the normal mo of
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Speaker 1: the Call Her Daddy podcast. But first the real clip,
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Speaker 1: and this bothers me on a lot of levels. This
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Speaker 1: has gotten a lot of attention online. Harris herself has
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Speaker 1: even shared this clip on Twitter slash x and this
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Speaker 1: is where I thought Alex Cooper really exposed herself as
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Speaker 1: doing propaganda and not actually doing an interview, which really
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Speaker 1: exposed her whole preamble of not wanting to get in
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Speaker 1: politics as a lie, because what she did was she
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Speaker 1: echoed almost word for word Harris's own words in a
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Speaker 1: rather famous or infamous question and that she asked Brett
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Speaker 1: Kavanaugh during the Kavanaugh hearings, and you know, unfortunately Kavanaugh
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Speaker 1: either didn't understand the question or simply didn't have a
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Speaker 1: good answer. And this was perceived at the time as
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Speaker 1: Harrah's having a mic drop moment where she asked Kavanaugh
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Speaker 1: about whether or not there are any laws where the
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Speaker 1: government has the right to dictate to men, or specifically
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Speaker 1: about men's bodies, and Kavanaugh was confused and like I said,
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Speaker 1: didn't come up with the proper answer, because there's a
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Speaker 1: there's several good answers to this total red herring question
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Speaker 1: that Harris has asked purely for a fake mic drop circumstance.
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Speaker 1: Well Cooper literally without saying that she was doing so,
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Speaker 1: literally copied word for word Harris's question to Kavanaugh, to
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Speaker 1: Harris herself, keying Harris up to take a victory lap
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Speaker 1: over this bogus idea that somehow the entire abortion issue
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Speaker 1: should be seen in the context of misogyny, because this
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Speaker 1: is the only circumstance where gender is specifically noted as
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Speaker 1: a way for the government to dictate what they can
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Speaker 1: force a woman to do with her body, or that
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Speaker 1: there's a law, if there's a law against abortion, that
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Speaker 1: that somehow is inherently against a woman's right to do
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Speaker 1: what she wants with her body, and that there's no
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Speaker 1: corresponding law that specifically targets men. That's the basis of
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Speaker 1: this whole BS narrative. Well, here was Cooper again, this
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Speaker 1: is the This is more than teeing up. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this is this is propaganda here where without even stating it,
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Speaker 1: you are bringing up what is one of the few,
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Speaker 1: you know, in the liberal world shining moments of Harris's
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Speaker 1: senatorial career where she allegedly humiliated Brett Kavanaugh and teeing
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Speaker 1: her up in this interview over this issue that has
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Speaker 1: numerous problems with it. And here's what that sounded like.
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Speaker 1: With Alex Cooper questioning Kamala Harris on the Call Her
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Speaker 1: Daddy podcast.
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Speaker 4: One of the biggest conversations in this year's election revolves
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Speaker 4: around a woman's body.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 4: I want to take a moment and can we try
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Speaker 4: to think of any law that gives the government the
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Speaker 4: power to make a decision. I know what you're gonna
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Speaker 4: ask about a man's body? No, No, is there any law?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 1: Now, this whole situation drives me crazy. On numeros, I've
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Speaker 1: already referenced the fact that this is propaganda. This is
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Speaker 1: not an interview question, especially when you don't even you know,
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Speaker 1: most of the audience probably doesn't remember that Harris did
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Speaker 1: this with Kavanaugh, so you don't even provide the context
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Speaker 1: for this. I'm assuming that Cooper knew the context for this,
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Speaker 1: and that she was just simply copying Harris's words. So
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Speaker 1: from a so called journalistic perspective, I hesitate to use
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Speaker 1: that word in reference to the Call Her Daddy podcast,
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Speaker 1: But she is interviewing the Democratic presidential nominee, So from
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Speaker 1: a journalistic standpoint, there's a problem. But even deeper than that,
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Speaker 1: there are at least three issues philosophically and logically. The
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Speaker 1: first is this idea that when it comes to abortion,
23:51
Speaker 1: what about the body or the rights of the unborn child.
23:58
Speaker 1: Abortion law is basically about deciding when it is that
24:03
Speaker 1: that unborn child has the right to have their body protected.
24:09
Speaker 1: How is that not at least part of this equation,
24:13
Speaker 1: I mean the whole it's a woman's body thing I
24:15
Speaker 1: realized as a man, especially a white man. I'm not
24:17
Speaker 1: allowed to have an opinion on this. But first of all,
24:22
Speaker 1: unless it's rape, you've made a decision about your body
24:26
Speaker 1: that made this situation possible. And under every abortion law,
24:32
Speaker 1: even technically in Florida, I think six weeks is way
24:35
Speaker 1: too soon. You are given the opportunity to have an
24:40
Speaker 1: abortion after you have realized that you are pregnant. And
24:46
Speaker 1: you know, we've gone through many times about how technology
24:50
Speaker 1: has changed. There's an abortion pill, and we have much better
24:54
Speaker 1: ability to know how far along a pregnancy is. And
24:58
Speaker 1: there are many states where effectively you can get an
25:00
Speaker 1: abortion almost until full term, even though Democrats don't like
25:05
Speaker 1: talking about that. But the primary point here is what
25:09
Speaker 1: about the body and the rights of the unborn child.
25:13
Speaker 1: We've all acknowledged, although Democrats won't tell you when this begins,
25:16
Speaker 1: we've all acknowledged at some point that unborn child comes
25:20
Speaker 1: into the equation with regard to the rights of their body.
25:24
Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two what are you talking about
25:29
Speaker 1: a female body? What's a female I was told we
25:34
Speaker 1: don't have any idea what a female is. I was
25:37
Speaker 1: told that having a female body doesn't make you special.
25:41
Speaker 1: I was told that you don't even have to have
25:43
Speaker 1: a female body to play female sports. So what the
25:49
Speaker 1: hell are we talking about a female body? What is
25:52
Speaker 1: a female body? Can someone please identify that? Can someone
25:56
Speaker 1: please define that? This is this is part really me nuts.
26:01
Speaker 1: So holy hypocrisy, batman. So you simultaneously can't define what
26:06
Speaker 1: a female body is, but you're going to make a
26:09
Speaker 1: huge deal over the fact that, uh, the you know,
26:12
Speaker 1: abortion law is the only one that targets the right
26:16
Speaker 1: of a female to do what she wants with her body. Well,
26:20
Speaker 1: tell me what a female is. By the way, that
26:23
Speaker 1: would have been a really good question for Alex Cooper
26:26
Speaker 1: to ask Kamala Harris, but she wasn't going to do
26:28
Speaker 1: that because that would be very, very problematic. And then
26:32
Speaker 1: there's the third part of this, which thankfully a lot
26:35
Speaker 1: of people are raising on social media in response to
26:38
Speaker 1: this issue. Unfortunately Brett Kavanaugh did not, and that is
26:43
Speaker 1: that we do have a law that is specifically targeting males.
26:48
Speaker 1: Whatever males are I don't know anymore. But technically, the
26:52
Speaker 1: selective service law requires that men register for a potential
26:59
Speaker 1: draft males. That's the law, which, by the way, a
27:04
Speaker 1: future potential commander in chief ought to fucking know all about.
27:09
Speaker 1: And yet when she shares this whole issue on social
27:13
Speaker 1: media and the clip I just played for you, there's
27:16
Speaker 1: no reference to that. There's there's no not even a
27:20
Speaker 1: scintilla of evidence that Harris is even aware that this
27:25
Speaker 1: is the reality, which is, you know, ought to be
27:28
Speaker 1: a disqualifying factor if we lived in a remotely rational world,
27:32
Speaker 1: but we don't for a million different reasons. So those
27:37
Speaker 1: are the three biggest problems I have with this whole
27:40
Speaker 1: biggest this whole issue. But that was what the interview
27:44
Speaker 1: was mostly about, and the reason for the interview was
27:46
Speaker 1: to emphasize, you know, the abortion issue and to rally
27:51
Speaker 1: young women to Harris's side. I don't know how effective
27:55
Speaker 1: it's going to be. I mean, I'm sure that there
27:58
Speaker 1: were a lot of young women who were on the
28:00
Speaker 1: fence about voting who probably found Harris appealing and found
28:04
Speaker 1: it great that she would do the Call Her Daddy podcast,
28:08
Speaker 1: So it may have been effective for Harris. I don't know,
28:11
Speaker 1: but there are a lot of problems both with the interview,
28:17
Speaker 1: the reality that a major presidential candidate was doing this
28:20
Speaker 1: type of interview to begin with, and what was actually
28:24
Speaker 1: said by Harris on the interview. Now, I do want
28:28
Speaker 1: to play a clip that I thought was absolutely hilarious.
28:31
Speaker 1: I want to provide a content warning because this is
28:34
Speaker 1: pretty graphic. So if you're sensitive, especially when it comes
28:39
Speaker 1: to sexual issues, you may want to fast forward through this.
28:43
Speaker 1: But you know, it's not too terrible, but I felt
28:45
Speaker 1: like it was requiring some sort of content warning. This
28:50
Speaker 1: is an AI parody, which is a really good It's
28:55
Speaker 1: amazing what AI can do, if only from the standpoint
28:58
Speaker 1: of duplicating the voices of Cooper and Harris, because this
29:02
Speaker 1: is really good from that perspective. It's so good that
29:05
Speaker 1: Twitter ended up having to put a disclaimer on it
29:08
Speaker 1: to make sure people knew it was AI, which is
29:10
Speaker 1: disturbing to me because if you don't understand this is AI,
29:14
Speaker 1: then then you've got problems. But apparently a lot of
29:17
Speaker 1: people did not. But this is done by a comedian
29:20
Speaker 1: by the name of Danny Poulashchuk. I think that's how
29:23
Speaker 1: you say. It's something close to that. He's a funny guy.
29:26
Speaker 1: He follows me on Twitter, so he's obviously pretty smart.
29:28
Speaker 1: But this is a parody of the Cooper Harris interview.
29:35
Speaker 1: And frankly, if this had been a normal this is
29:39
Speaker 1: the genius of this clip. If this had been a
29:42
Speaker 1: normal Call Her Daddy podcast interview and this was not
29:47
Speaker 1: political propaganda. In other words, Harris wasn't doing this for
29:51
Speaker 1: obvious political benefit, which is understandable. And if Cooper wasn't
29:56
Speaker 1: willing to gain some prominence and credit ability by selling
30:01
Speaker 1: out her objectivity and selling out portions of her audience,
30:07
Speaker 1: and this has been a normal Call Her Daddy interview,
30:10
Speaker 1: this is exactly what it would have sounded like. So
30:12
Speaker 1: this one will give you a sense of what this
30:15
Speaker 1: podcast is normally like. And two, it's pretty funny and frankly,
30:20
Speaker 1: I think pretty accurate about what this would have gone down,
30:25
Speaker 1: how this would have gone down if it had not
30:27
Speaker 1: been shaped for political propaganda purposes. So once again, this
30:31
Speaker 1: is the AI version of the Call Her Daddy podcast
30:36
Speaker 1: interview between Alex Cooper and Kamala Harris.
30:40
Speaker 4: Madam Vice President, Kamala Harris, thank you for being here, Thanks.
30:44
Speaker 3: For having me, Alex it's really great to be here.
30:47
Speaker 4: We are one month out from the election. My audience
30:50
Speaker 4: is basically just horrors and gay guys. Why should they
30:53
Speaker 4: vote for you?
30:53
Speaker 3: I think it's simple. Vote for me and you'll have
30:57
Speaker 3: the first hoe in chief, or vote for Donald Trump
31:00
Speaker 3: and no more abortions.
31:02
Speaker 4: I love that you just called yourself hoe in chief.
31:05
Speaker 4: My audience of girl Boss horrors really can relate to that.
31:09
Speaker 3: Google my name and Willie Brown or Montel Williams. It's
31:14
Speaker 3: not an act.
31:15
Speaker 4: I love it. You've been married to Doug for ten
31:18
Speaker 4: years now? What does he like in the bedroom.
31:20
Speaker 3: I'd say I'm probably the more adventurous one between the
31:23
Speaker 3: two of us. He's pretty vanilla, but you know that
31:26
Speaker 3: pair's real nice with some chocolate.
31:28
Speaker 4: What does that look like?
31:30
Speaker 5: Then?
31:30
Speaker 3: All kinds of stuff, breathplay, knife, play, some light BDSM.
31:35
Speaker 3: He really loves to get pegged.
31:38
Speaker 4: Most people would assume that.
31:39
Speaker 3: That's definitely his favorite. He likes it when I put
31:42
Speaker 3: a ballgag in his mouth and peg him while calling
31:46
Speaker 3: him my dirty little whore, first gentleman.
31:48
Speaker 4: That's so freaky. We talk about blowjobs a lot on
31:52
Speaker 4: this podcast. Probably half of everything we talk about. Everyone
31:56
Speaker 4: assumes your throat goat? Is that accurate?
31:58
Speaker 3: Of course, I like to get down there and just
32:01
Speaker 3: make a real mess of things, messier than how we
32:04
Speaker 3: pulled out of Afghanistan.
32:05
Speaker 4: Wow, that is messy. What about the balls? Do you
32:09
Speaker 4: like to get in there?
32:10
Speaker 3: Doug goes wild when I put rubber bands around them
32:13
Speaker 3: until they turn blue, and when he can't take the
32:15
Speaker 3: pain anymore, I peg him until he cries.
32:18
Speaker 4: Damn. You might be the freakiest guest we've ever had.
32:21
Speaker 3: I'm a natural leader, which is what helps Doug bus nuts.
32:24
Speaker 3: But that is also the thing that makes me the
32:27
Speaker 3: best option to lead this country come November.
32:30
Speaker 4: If you win, I bet Doug will be coming in November.
32:33
Speaker 3: For his sake. I hope we win, because if I lose,
32:36
Speaker 3: Doug is going to be sitting on a donut for
32:38
Speaker 3: the entire Trump presidency, maybe even the rest of his life.
32:42
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed that as much as I did.
32:44
Speaker 1: I thought that was hilarious, and I hope you also
32:48
Speaker 1: noticed that, at least in the AI parody version, the
32:53
Speaker 1: Willie Brown and Montel Williams affairs were referenced, and that's
32:58
Speaker 1: part of what made that Genie. It got probably a
33:01
Speaker 1: little more graphic than it needed to from a sexual perspective.
33:05
Speaker 1: But that's the type of podcast that Kamala Harris went on,
33:09
Speaker 1: but that was not the type of interview that she
33:13
Speaker 1: had to endure. And so you know, to me, it
33:18
Speaker 1: may have been a very good decision politically strategically by
33:22
Speaker 1: the Harris campaign, but it was another example of where
33:26
Speaker 1: Harris has an advantage that Trump could never have because
33:30
Speaker 1: Trump could never benefit from that kind of a situation.
33:35
Speaker 1: And obviously, if Trump ever did accept an invitation on
33:39
Speaker 1: Call Her Daddy, I guarantee you there wouldn't be the
33:42
Speaker 1: same level of respect and the same level of hesitancy
33:45
Speaker 1: to get into sexual issues because obviously with Trump there
33:49
Speaker 1: are sexual issues that would be very relevant as well.
33:53
Speaker 1: I mean that the sex abuse allegations and you know
33:56
Speaker 1: the judgment against him, and obviously you know the Stormy
34:02
Speaker 1: Daniels circumstance, the multiple wives. I would have no problem
34:06
Speaker 1: with any of that being talked about if Trump ever
34:08
Speaker 1: went on that podcast, which is part of why of
34:11
Speaker 1: course he never will. By the way, there's one other
34:13
Speaker 1: topic that was discussed on Call Her Daddy with Harris
34:17
Speaker 1: that I want a reference because this also bothers me
34:20
Speaker 1: with regard to the kid glove treatment that Harris gets,
34:25
Speaker 1: and I think it's a bit of a double standard. Cooper,
34:29
Speaker 1: in her never ending effort to provide propaganda material for Harris,
34:34
Speaker 1: referenced Republican attacks on Harris never having had children. Now,
34:40
Speaker 1: I have not seen this as a major narrative in
34:44
Speaker 1: this campaign. Cooper referenced, I believe it was Governor Huckabee
34:50
Speaker 1: of Arkansas who made a I think a rather benign
34:54
Speaker 1: comment in this area about how important it is to
34:57
Speaker 1: have children to humble you and that harr doesn't have
35:01
Speaker 1: anybody like that, something to that effect, and that was
35:05
Speaker 1: spun as this Republican attack narrative on the fact that
35:10
Speaker 1: Harris has never had children. And look, I don't think
35:15
Speaker 1: it should be a major point of attack on Harris.
35:18
Speaker 1: But the number one decision you make in your life
35:23
Speaker 1: as a healthy female, and by all accounts Harris is
35:28
Speaker 1: is whether or not you have children. That's the number
35:32
Speaker 1: one decision you make. That's what makes a female in
35:36
Speaker 1: the real world different from a male. That is a
35:40
Speaker 1: huge decision. Did you have to make You have an
35:44
Speaker 1: opportunity to bring in new life into the world, should
35:49
Speaker 1: you so choose, and so the decision whether or not
35:54
Speaker 1: to do that, I mean, to me, there's no bigger
35:59
Speaker 1: one than that. I think most people would agree with that,
36:02
Speaker 1: even in this rapidly changing world in which we now live,
36:06
Speaker 1: I think most Americans would agree that is the biggest
36:09
Speaker 1: decision a woman makes. Well, she made the decision to
36:14
Speaker 1: not have children. Now you can defend that decision, and
36:19
Speaker 1: there's certainly good reasons to not have children. But I
36:23
Speaker 1: think that's a decision that is certainly well within the
36:28
Speaker 1: realm of a political conversation. I mean, we're going to
36:32
Speaker 1: have the first female president. We've never dealt with it
36:36
Speaker 1: like this before. We've never had a woman be the
36:39
Speaker 1: nominee who didn't have children. So I think what made
36:45
Speaker 1: up that decision is certainly relevant when we're trying to
36:48
Speaker 1: figure out who is this person. This person that we
36:51
Speaker 1: really don't know very much about, has never been fully vetted,
36:54
Speaker 1: got helicoptered in at the last moment as the Democratic nominee.
36:58
Speaker 1: I don't think that that should be for voting now.
37:02
Speaker 1: Of course, the media will make it for voting because
37:05
Speaker 1: they know that that's a problem. They don't sense this
37:08
Speaker 1: is a good area for Harris that there aren't that
37:11
Speaker 1: many great answers, and her answer, by the way, wasn't
37:14
Speaker 1: that great because it was basically, hey, you know, us
37:18
Speaker 1: childless girls, we live our own lives and we don't
37:22
Speaker 1: need to be humbled, and I don't want to be humbled.
37:24
Speaker 1: I means that's almost a direct quote what she said.
37:27
Speaker 1: I didn't think that answer was particularly good. But more importantly,
37:31
Speaker 1: I don't think that this is a topic that should
37:34
Speaker 1: be off limits, especially if part of your argument is
37:38
Speaker 1: won the first female president potentially. Okay, that's partly why
37:44
Speaker 1: I think the Willie Brown issue is important, because it's
37:48
Speaker 1: gonna tell a lot about what the rules are for
37:51
Speaker 1: women in society when it comes to their careers, especially
37:53
Speaker 1: post me too. Well. Similarly, if you're gonna benefit for
37:58
Speaker 1: being a female and potentially being the first female president,
38:02
Speaker 1: you're the first female vice president, then I would like
38:06
Speaker 1: to know why did you decide not to have kids?
38:09
Speaker 1: What went into that? I mean, your vice president has
38:13
Speaker 1: made a huge deal about, you know, how they had
38:16
Speaker 1: children through extraordinary means, even lying about how they had
38:20
Speaker 1: children for extraordinary means, I believe for political purposes, and
38:24
Speaker 1: now he's denying that that had anything to do with
38:26
Speaker 1: it more on that and just a little bit. But
38:29
Speaker 1: I just think this is a relevant issue. I don't
38:31
Speaker 1: think this is the biggest by far, and you were
38:34
Speaker 1: close to the biggest issue in the campaign. But it's
38:37
Speaker 1: a massive decision for a woman. And so, you know, frankly,
38:41
Speaker 1: the two biggest decisions I think this woman has ever
38:44
Speaker 1: made are not having kids and picking Tim Waltz as
38:47
Speaker 1: their vice presidential nominee. And so those two decisions ought
38:51
Speaker 1: to be scrutinized, you know, reasonably and rationally. But the
38:58
Speaker 1: whole vibe of the interview was, oh my god, how
39:01
Speaker 1: outrageous to even bring this up. It's not outrageous. You're
39:06
Speaker 1: just saying it's outrageous because you don't think that this
39:09
Speaker 1: is a good issue for her. You don't think that
39:10
Speaker 1: she has a good answer for this. You think that
39:13
Speaker 1: there's some Americans that might be a little uncomfortable with that.
39:17
Speaker 1: Not nearly as many as there used to be, but
39:20
Speaker 1: there still could be some. So that's the call her
39:23
Speaker 1: Daddy interview. I want to play one other clip that's
39:26
Speaker 1: related to this whole topic of Harris dramatically shifting her
39:31
Speaker 1: strategy when it comes to doing interviews. This is from
39:35
Speaker 1: Meet the Press. This is Andrea and Mitchell, longtime MSNBC commentator,
39:41
Speaker 1: obviously a liberal, and this got a lot of play
39:45
Speaker 1: for a couple of different reasons. She was making the
39:48
Speaker 1: argument that Harris needs to do all these interviews, which
39:53
Speaker 1: is consistent with one of the theories out there as
39:56
Speaker 1: to why this strategy has changed. Mitchell seemed to be
39:59
Speaker 1: in the camp. Oh no, this is a strategy shift
40:02
Speaker 1: because Harris is having a big problem, specifically with men. Now,
40:08
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that the choice of interviews, particularly Call
40:12
Speaker 1: Her Daddy podcast, is influenced by Harris's problem with men,
40:17
Speaker 1: unless unless this is all about the strategy of Okay,
40:22
Speaker 1: we are doing very poorly with men, so we need
40:26
Speaker 1: to create the biggest gender gap in American political history.
40:31
Speaker 1: We are going to maximize the female vote, especially the
40:35
Speaker 1: young female vote, as much as we possibly can, because
40:39
Speaker 1: that's the way we're going to win this race. We're
40:41
Speaker 1: doing poorly with men, so we need to max out
40:45
Speaker 1: with women. But I want to play this clip from
40:49
Speaker 1: Andrew Mitchell for a couple of reasons. One because of
40:52
Speaker 1: the theory that this is about urgency on the part
40:56
Speaker 1: of the Harris campaign, but also listen to how Harri's
41:00
Speaker 1: not Harris Mitchell Freudian slept because they're on the same team.
41:03
Speaker 1: How Mitchell portrays the problem with men. It's not really
41:09
Speaker 1: her problem, it's men's problem. It's men's problem with misogyny.
41:16
Speaker 1: And by the way, most interestingly, it's not just white
41:20
Speaker 1: men being misogynistic towards Harris, it's black men being misogynistic
41:27
Speaker 1: towards Harrors, which really blew me away. But here's what
41:31
Speaker 1: that sounded like on Meet the Press on NBC.
41:34
Speaker 6: Andrew, I think they've got to double down on doing
41:37
Speaker 6: more interviews and serious interviews, because when I'm hearing from
41:40
Speaker 6: Democratic and Republican business people and a lot of men,
41:45
Speaker 6: and she's got such a big problem with men. I
41:47
Speaker 6: think there's an under account of the Trump vote. I
41:49
Speaker 6: think there's miss misogynation in all of this black and
41:53
Speaker 6: white men big problem, but also the business world they
41:57
Speaker 6: don't think she is serious, they don't think she's a heavyweight,
42:00
Speaker 6: and a lot of this is gender. But she's got
42:03
Speaker 6: to be more specific about her economic plan.
42:05
Speaker 1: Now. The primary reaction I had to that was, wait
42:09
Speaker 1: a minute, hold on, did Andrew Mitchell just called called
42:13
Speaker 1: black men misogynistic. I think that's what I heard. Isn't
42:18
Speaker 1: that a cancelation level event in the woke world. A
42:24
Speaker 1: white woman just called black men misogynistic. They're not liking
42:30
Speaker 1: Kamala to the level that is up to the approval
42:34
Speaker 1: of the liberal media. So therefore the only explanation is
42:39
Speaker 1: black men hate women, or even more specifically, she didn't
42:44
Speaker 1: say this, but it can be implied they hate black
42:48
Speaker 1: women or women of color. Wow, Okay, I would like
42:52
Speaker 1: to get further into that issue, and what is that
42:55
Speaker 1: Mitchell really meant by this? But that did not get
42:59
Speaker 1: a lot of attention, which I think it deserved. Instead,
43:04
Speaker 1: most of the attention was on aha, even Andrew Mitchell
43:08
Speaker 1: is indicating that Harris is in trouble. And that is
43:11
Speaker 1: why the sudden dramatic shift when it comes to the
43:15
Speaker 1: strategy on going from doing hardly any interviews to now
43:19
Speaker 1: doing all sorts of different interviews in a very short timeframe. Now,
43:25
Speaker 1: while Harris was doing to call her Daddy interview and others,
43:31
Speaker 1: Donald Trump returned rather dramatically to Butler, Pennsylvania, the site
43:35
Speaker 1: obviously of the assassination attempt against him. This drew a
43:41
Speaker 1: massive crowd, and Trump of course loves to talk about
43:44
Speaker 1: his massive crowds, but this was, by any account, a
43:47
Speaker 1: huge crowd in Butler, Pennsylvania, very patriotic, All Star cast,
43:54
Speaker 1: Jade Vance was there, Elon Musk was there. Trump came
43:59
Speaker 1: out very German. We had kind of a funny moment
44:02
Speaker 1: at the Ziggler House because it was on and my
44:06
Speaker 1: two girls and my wife were all watching and Trump
44:10
Speaker 1: was about to speak, and I said to everyone, there's
44:13
Speaker 1: only one way. This is a totally true story. There's
44:17
Speaker 1: only one way for Trump to begin this speech. I said,
44:21
Speaker 1: he has to begin it by saying as I was saying.
44:27
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what Trump did. And my gosh, my
44:32
Speaker 1: daughter Grace's jaw was on the floor. She's my dad,
44:36
Speaker 1: You're a genius. How did you know he was gonna
44:38
Speaker 1: do that? Come on, I know, my Trump. Plus, it
44:41
Speaker 1: was the right way to do this, and so that
44:44
Speaker 1: was effective, and it was you know, it was a
44:47
Speaker 1: patriotic event. It was an emotional event. Of course, you
44:51
Speaker 1: had your moments where Trump said some things that would
44:56
Speaker 1: have been very problematic if he was Joe Biden, like,
44:59
Speaker 1: for instance, when he was talking about the firefighter who
45:02
Speaker 1: lost his life during that assassination attempt Corey comparatore. He
45:08
Speaker 1: kept referencing how Corey got a really great seat that
45:12
Speaker 1: day and even had the best seat in the house.
45:15
Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm not taking that out of context.
45:18
Speaker 1: I'm not misquoting him. He wasn't talking about how he
45:21
Speaker 1: had the best seat in the house for that, you know,
45:24
Speaker 1: the second Butler event, like he's in heaven watching from
45:27
Speaker 1: the box seats. No, he bizarrely talked about what a
45:32
Speaker 1: great seat Corey had that day when he got shot
45:37
Speaker 1: and killed. And he said this on multiple occasions. Now,
45:45
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of that's Trump being Trump and
45:47
Speaker 1: his stream of consciousness, and he says things that he
45:51
Speaker 1: probably didn't really mean or didn't think through. But I
45:54
Speaker 1: can guarantee you that if Joe Biden had had an
45:59
Speaker 1: assassination attempt against him and later on referenced the man
46:04
Speaker 1: who was shot and killed in that attempt and on
46:07
Speaker 1: multiple occasions said, you know, Corey had the best seat
46:10
Speaker 1: in the house that day, Republicans and Trump fans would
46:14
Speaker 1: be going bananas over how much Joe Biden had lost it.
46:19
Speaker 1: That's a fact, folks. Now I realized that Biden is
46:23
Speaker 1: much further gone than Trump. And I'm not pretending that
46:27
Speaker 1: Trump is, you know, in the in the throes of dementia,
46:30
Speaker 1: but that was that was a doozy And of course,
46:35
Speaker 1: you know, no one on the conservative sides allowed to
46:38
Speaker 1: mention that, and when I did on Twitter, people got
46:40
Speaker 1: all upset with me. Of course, maybe the highlight as
46:44
Speaker 1: far as the speakers of this event at this event
46:48
Speaker 1: was not Trump. Trump, as he often does, wandered. He
46:52
Speaker 1: stopped in the middle of the speech for several minutes
46:55
Speaker 1: because there was somebody in the in the audience who
46:59
Speaker 1: was having some sort of a medical episode. I wasn't
47:02
Speaker 1: sure why he needed to do that quite as long
47:05
Speaker 1: as he did, so that kind of stopped the momentum
47:07
Speaker 1: of the event. But the highlight in my view was
47:12
Speaker 1: Elon Musk. Now, as you know, I like Elon Musk
47:16
Speaker 1: in general, but I have issues with Elon Musk. I
47:19
Speaker 1: think he sabotaged now maybe not on purpose, but he
47:23
Speaker 1: certainly sabotaged Ron DeSantis's presidential campaign launch. It's, by the way,
47:30
Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting, isn't it in retrospect now to
47:32
Speaker 1: see how big of a supporter Elon Musk has become
47:37
Speaker 1: of Donald Trump and not at least think, Okay, well
47:43
Speaker 1: this can have suddenly happened. There's nothing new about Trump
47:47
Speaker 1: really that would cause Musk to be this pro Trump.
47:51
Speaker 1: I mean he is super pro Trump. Not just giving
47:55
Speaker 1: money to a political action committee, but almost all of
47:58
Speaker 1: his tweets. I mean, frankly is running a much better
48:02
Speaker 1: campaign on behalf of Donald Trump on Twitter than I
48:06
Speaker 1: think the Trump campaign is running nationwide. I don't know
48:09
Speaker 1: how effective it will be because I don't know, you know,
48:12
Speaker 1: what the influence of Twitter is with independent voters. But
48:16
Speaker 1: Musk is super pro Trump, and that we knew this
48:19
Speaker 1: even before the Butler event, and I think you have
48:23
Speaker 1: to at least think back and go, well, wait a minute.
48:26
Speaker 1: So you're saying this super pro Trump guy was the
48:30
Speaker 1: one who was literally at the controls when Ron DeSantis's
48:36
Speaker 1: political campaign was launched in a horrendous fashion on Twitter.
48:40
Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting a conspiracy. I'm not suggesting any that
48:45
Speaker 1: was done on purpose. But you know when you look
48:48
Speaker 1: back and you go, well, wait a minute. I hated
48:51
Speaker 1: that idea from the beginning, but that was I'm not
48:54
Speaker 1: saying that the campaign would have been different had there
48:56
Speaker 1: been a proper launch, but when that launch failed to launch.
49:01
Speaker 1: I knew it was over for DeSantis, and I basically
49:04
Speaker 1: said that on this podcast, and Elon Musk to this day,
49:07
Speaker 1: I think deserves a lot of blame for that, and
49:09
Speaker 1: that's one of the many reasons I've always hesitated to
49:12
Speaker 1: jump fully on the Elon Musk bandwagon. But at this
49:16
Speaker 1: event in Butler, he was His speech in a very
49:22
Speaker 1: short period of time was I thought, far more on point,
49:25
Speaker 1: far more effective than Trump's was. I mean, it was
49:29
Speaker 1: right to the point. I will say that Elon Musk
49:32
Speaker 1: was in full Asperger syndrome mode. I mean he I mean,
49:37
Speaker 1: if you don't think he has Asperger's, watch his reaction
49:41
Speaker 1: when Trump calls him up. I mean it's I mean,
49:44
Speaker 1: my own daughter, Grace, who's familiar with this because her
49:50
Speaker 1: mom is a special needs teacher and you know, so
49:56
Speaker 1: we're familiar with the autism spectrum, and she volunteered this herself.
50:00
Speaker 1: By god, Elon Musk, she referred to it as autism,
50:05
Speaker 1: but it's it's obvious that he's got some level of autism,
50:10
Speaker 1: probably Asperger's. And his reaction was, you know, very odd,
50:16
Speaker 1: very awkward. But his speech I thought was really good
50:21
Speaker 1: and right to the point maybe a little over dramatic.
50:25
Speaker 1: He he did say that if Trump doesn't win, we
50:28
Speaker 1: will not have another election in this country. I don't
50:32
Speaker 1: believe that to be true, although I also think that
50:35
Speaker 1: Musk is extrapolating that what he I think what Musk
50:40
Speaker 1: means when he says that is that if Trump loses,
50:44
Speaker 1: that there will be so many illegal aliens that will
50:49
Speaker 1: be allowed to become citizens and therefore voters, that effectively
50:54
Speaker 1: we will have one party rule in this country, and
50:56
Speaker 1: that the next presidential election will not be compared head
51:00
Speaker 1: I think that's what Musk means. But the most important
51:04
Speaker 1: part is I thought Musk was more effective in just
51:07
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes than Trump was with the entire speech,
51:12
Speaker 1: although the event itself was clearly very dramatic, to come
51:17
Speaker 1: back to the site where you were almost killed. To
51:21
Speaker 1: Trump's credit, it felt like he was more of a
51:25
Speaker 1: humbled man at that event than any other I've ever
51:30
Speaker 1: seen him at. I've been disappointed that he's not a
51:33
Speaker 1: new man after almost having had his head blown off,
51:37
Speaker 1: that he's still basically exactly the same Trump, for better
51:41
Speaker 1: and for worse. I would have hoped that he would.
51:44
Speaker 1: You know that that event would be life changing. It
51:47
Speaker 1: was not, but I will say that by and large
51:50
Speaker 1: he handled the Butler event pretty well with some exceptions,
51:55
Speaker 1: and I think overall it had to be a positive
51:58
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. I mean, to get that many people in
52:03
Speaker 1: that dramatic and atmosphere the site where you were almost killed,
52:08
Speaker 1: and to have that large of a crowd that much
52:10
Speaker 1: media exposure both nationally and locally in the state that
52:15
Speaker 1: probably matters the most. I think that that is important.
52:20
Speaker 1: I think that's got to help Trump in Pennsylvania, and
52:23
Speaker 1: as you know, I, like most commentators, believe that Pennsylvania
52:28
Speaker 1: is the state that will most likely decide this election.
52:32
Speaker 1: Before I get to where I think the race stands,
52:35
Speaker 1: I want to go back to the vice presidential debate briefly,
52:41
Speaker 1: because that happened after or in between our last two
52:46
Speaker 1: podcast episodes, so I did have some opportunity to do
52:50
Speaker 1: post debate analysis. But there were a couple of things
52:54
Speaker 1: that happened in the aftermath of the vice presidential debate
52:57
Speaker 1: that I found interesting and word comment I had said
53:02
Speaker 1: that I was disappointed that jd Vance did not follow
53:06
Speaker 1: up when Tim Waltz had that very embarrassing moment where
53:10
Speaker 1: he was forced to admit basically that he lied about
53:13
Speaker 1: being in China during Tieneman Square. And I was upset
53:18
Speaker 1: with jd Vance because I thought this was a great
53:21
Speaker 1: opportunity to really emphasize the point, to not just let
53:25
Speaker 1: it linger, to expand it beyond the Tieneman Square lie,
53:30
Speaker 1: and to talk about all the other things that Tim
53:32
Speaker 1: Waltz has lied about, and to build the argument that
53:36
Speaker 1: this is who Tim Waltz is, that he is a
53:39
Speaker 1: serial at best exaggerator and at worst a liar. And
53:44
Speaker 1: jd Vance did not do that well. For some reason,
53:48
Speaker 1: Tim Waltz decided to go on Fox News over the weekend,
53:51
Speaker 1: and Shannon Bream basically did exactly one what the moderators
53:57
Speaker 1: of the vice presidential debate should have done but they
53:59
Speaker 1: did not, and to what jd Vance should have done
54:03
Speaker 1: during the debate and he did not. She confronted Waltz
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Speaker 1: very specifically, almost exactly how I wish Vance or in
54:11
Speaker 1: the ideal world, the moderators would have done. In following
54:16
Speaker 1: up on this larger issue of what is it about
54:20
Speaker 1: Tim Waltz that makes him do this where it's continually
54:24
Speaker 1: a situation where he's exaggerating and or lying about his background,
54:30
Speaker 1: and this was what it sounded like on Fox News Channel.
54:35
Speaker 2: Republicans came out against it long before President Trump indicated
54:38
Speaker 2: he didn't like it either. Listen before we go, because
54:40
Speaker 2: I wish that we had a full hour. I want
54:42
Speaker 2: to give you a chance, because you called yourself a
54:44
Speaker 2: knucklehead this week to talk about some of your misstatements.
54:47
Speaker 2: You've modified your story or explained that you misspoke about
54:50
Speaker 2: things involving your military rank, about carrying a weapon in war,
54:55
Speaker 2: your nineteen ninety five DUI arrest, using IVF to have
54:58
Speaker 2: your beautiful children guss in Hope being in Hong Kong
55:01
Speaker 2: and China the summer of nineteen eighty nine during the
55:03
Speaker 2: Tanneman events, A lot of people would say they couldn't
55:07
Speaker 2: get away with saying, I'm just too passionate, my grammar's
55:10
Speaker 2: not right, I'm a knucklehead. What do you say to
55:12
Speaker 2: the American people who think I don't know that I
55:15
Speaker 2: can trust this guy with all those modifications to be
55:18
Speaker 2: the potential commander in chief of this country.
55:22
Speaker 7: Yeah, well I think they heard me. They heard me
55:23
Speaker 7: the other night speaking passionately about gun violence and misspeaking,
55:27
Speaker 7: and I got to be honest with you, Shannon, I
55:29
Speaker 7: don't think people care whether I used IUI or IVF
55:33
Speaker 7: when we talk about this. What they understand is Donald
55:35
Speaker 7: Trump would resist those things. Look, I speak passionately. I
55:38
Speaker 7: had an entire career decades before I was in public office.
55:42
Speaker 7: They know, and I'm very proud of my twenty four
55:44
Speaker 7: years in service and my record. I have never disparaged
55:48
Speaker 7: someone else in this, but I know that's not what
55:50
Speaker 7: Donald Trump does. They disparage everyone the personal attacks. I
55:54
Speaker 7: will loan up when I misspeak, I will own up
55:56
Speaker 7: when I make a mistake.
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Speaker 1: Let's be very now. You know. I didn't think that
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Speaker 1: Waltz's response there was particularly good. I'm not sure there
56:03
Speaker 1: is a good response to that. I appreciated that Shannon
56:06
Speaker 1: Breen tried to at least get Waltz to respond to
56:11
Speaker 1: an expanded question on this, because that's to me far
56:14
Speaker 1: more significant. I don't really care if you know you
56:18
Speaker 1: lied for whatever reason you want to make it more
56:22
Speaker 1: dramatic your trip to China. I still think, by the way,
56:25
Speaker 1: we ought to be asking why the hell has he
56:27
Speaker 1: been to China? Apparently thirty times? That's I think very
56:31
Speaker 1: interesting and could be indicative of what his true political
56:34
Speaker 1: philosophy is and what he views China to really be
56:38
Speaker 1: all about, and what they how they view him and
56:41
Speaker 1: why they've allowed him into the country thirty times. But
56:43
Speaker 1: that wasn't even brought up. But you're lying about Oh,
56:47
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a knucklehead. I say things where I
56:51
Speaker 1: misspeak from time to time, and you know, and I'll
56:54
Speaker 1: correct it when I misspeak. I mean, that's not misspeaking.
56:58
Speaker 1: It's not misspeaking. And if you're going to be the
57:00
Speaker 1: vice president potentially the president United States, you know these
57:03
Speaker 1: kinds of details matter. But the bigger issue to me
57:07
Speaker 1: is are you a serial exaggerator slash liar? What is
57:12
Speaker 1: it about you, your personality and your makeup that causes
57:17
Speaker 1: you to do this? Is it an insecurity or is
57:21
Speaker 1: it simply you don't know how to discern fact from fiction,
57:27
Speaker 1: that you don't have a high regard for the truth.
57:31
Speaker 1: What is it? I don't know the answer, but I'd
57:33
Speaker 1: like to get Waltz to respond to a question like that.
57:38
Speaker 1: And that didn't even happen in that circumstance, And if
57:41
Speaker 1: it's not going to happen in that circumstance, it's never
57:43
Speaker 1: going to occur.
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