Latest / Money In Motion with Klaas Financial / Underwritten: Risk and Reward
Transcript
- 0:00Speaker 1: Tenerphone lines. They are open for you right now if
- 0:03Speaker 1: you have a question for our retirement planning professionals from
- 0:06Speaker 1: Class Financial love to get you on the show this morning.
- 0:08Speaker 1: I got a new is pick up phone dial in
- 0:10Speaker 1: six oh eight three two one thirteen ten. That's six
- 0:13Speaker 1: soh eight three two one thirteen ten. Maybe you've had
- 0:16Speaker 1: a retirement related question that's been in the back your head.
- 0:19Speaker 1: You want to get it off your chest. Great opportunity
- 0:22Speaker 1: to get that question answered again. Telephone number question answered
- 0:25Speaker 1: telephone number six oh eight three two one thirteen ten.
- 0:27Speaker 1: That's six so eight three two one thirteen ten. Of course,
- 0:31Speaker 1: Money in Motion brought you by Coss Financially. You can
- 0:33Speaker 1: learn more about them online their website Closs Financial dot
- 0:37Speaker 1: com that's Klaas Financial dot com and their telephone number
- 0:41Speaker 1: six oh eight four four two five six three seven.
- 0:44Speaker 1: No charge for that initial gets to know you appointment
- 0:46Speaker 1: tech Coss Financial. It will indeed be complimentary to you
- 0:49Speaker 1: again their number six oh eight four four two five
- 0:53Speaker 1: six three seven and join us this morning from Class Financial.
- 0:55Speaker 1: CJ Closs and Eric Schwartz CJ. How you doing this week?
- 0:59Speaker 2: I'm doing great? How are you?
- 1:00Speaker 1: I'm doing really well. Great to talk with you.
- 1:02Speaker 3: Eric.
- 1:02Speaker 1: How have you been.
- 1:04Speaker 3: I'm doing great, Sean. It's been a good week.
- 1:06Speaker 1: It's been an interesting week weatherwise, I'll go with that.
- 1:09Speaker 1: And it's a good week so far. We've got got
- 1:13Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff to talk about too. Speaking
- 1:15Speaker 1: of good things, we're going to be talking this week
- 1:17Speaker 1: about understanding ACA, the Affordable Care Act, everything he needs
- 1:21Speaker 1: to know when it comes to major medical We're going
- 1:23Speaker 1: to get the details from CJ and Eric on that
- 1:25Speaker 1: this morning. Don't forget each and every week, our friends
- 1:28Speaker 1: from Class Financial, I have a great prize provided to you.
- 1:31Speaker 1: A twenty five dollars gift card to the Cheesecake Factory
- 1:35Speaker 1: is this week's prize with the Class Quiz Question of
- 1:37Speaker 1: the Week. We'll be doing that a little bit later
- 1:39Speaker 1: on in the program. Little tip though, it's definitely beneficial
- 1:42Speaker 1: to pay close attention to the program one. You get
- 1:44Speaker 1: great information in two. Just about every show, the question
- 1:47Speaker 1: and answer to the Class Quiz Question of the Week
- 1:49Speaker 1: comes up during the program again you have a chance
- 1:51Speaker 1: to win a twenty five dollars gift card to the
- 1:53Speaker 1: cheesecake Factory. We'll tell you a little bit later on
- 1:55Speaker 1: the program how you can do that. And before we
- 1:58Speaker 1: get into this week's topic and conversation, so let's actually
- 2:00Speaker 1: look back at last week's show and get the question
- 2:03Speaker 1: and answer there as well.
- 2:05Speaker 3: Eric, absolutely, so, listeners got a little break from me
- 2:09Speaker 3: last week. You had Nate on the show, one of
- 2:11Speaker 3: my colleagues here, and he is, i would say, our
- 2:14Speaker 3: expert in college finance planning. And near the beginning of
- 2:19Speaker 3: last week's show, he told you, or he told all
- 2:22Speaker 3: the listeners, you can get Alan for college, but you
- 2:25Speaker 3: can't get a loan for blank. What was the answer
- 2:28Speaker 3: to that? That was our quiz question last week and
- 2:31Speaker 3: the answer is, you can get Along for college, but
- 2:33Speaker 3: you cannot get Alan for retirement. So we need to
- 2:37Speaker 3: think about that when we're planning for both.
- 2:39Speaker 1: And it was a really informative program. And of course
- 2:41Speaker 1: you can listen back at class financial dot com. That's
- 2:44Speaker 1: gloss k l a Asfinancial dot com. And if you
- 2:47Speaker 1: need your Eric fix, you're saying, wait, wait, wait, I
- 2:49Speaker 1: want to hear more Eric too. There's plenty of podcasts
- 2:52Speaker 1: with our good friend Eric Schwartz on there as well,
- 2:54Speaker 1: So to subscribe, thank you. You know, I do my part.
- 2:57Speaker 1: I know what the people want, they want, CJ want
- 3:00Speaker 1: Aeric guys all are fantastic at Class Financially again, head
- 3:04Speaker 1: out over to classfinancial dot com. You can sign up
- 3:06Speaker 1: for the podcast right there. You can also schedule a
- 3:09Speaker 1: complementary chat right online or call the office six oh
- 3:12Speaker 1: eight four four two five six three seven that initially
- 3:15Speaker 1: get to know you appointment at COSS Financial. It's not
- 3:17Speaker 1: going to cost you a thing. It will be complementary
- 3:18Speaker 1: to you again their number six oh eight four four
- 3:21Speaker 1: two five six three seven. So this week we're gonna
- 3:23Speaker 1: be talking about a topic that impacts just about everyone
- 3:26Speaker 1: at some point, which is health insurance. You know, as
- 3:30Speaker 1: we talk about you know, things like major medical insurance
- 3:33Speaker 1: and the Affordable Care Act also known as ACA. Let's
- 3:36Speaker 1: ce J. Let's kind of get started with the basics.
- 3:39Speaker 1: What does that term major medical mean?
- 3:43Speaker 2: Yeah, good question, Sean. So major medical refers to comprehensive
- 3:48Speaker 2: health insurance coverage. These are plans designed to cover a
- 3:51Speaker 2: wide range of services that include preventative care, doctors, visits,
- 3:55Speaker 2: hospital stays, prescriptions, and emergency cared. That you want to
- 4:00Speaker 2: kind of focus on here is comprehensive. These plans are
- 4:04Speaker 2: meant to protect you financially from both, just like routine
- 4:07Speaker 2: healthcare costs and major unexpected medical events. So, simply put,
- 4:12Speaker 2: major medical health plans are what we generally think of
- 4:15Speaker 2: as basic health insurance. Now, when evaluating these different options,
- 4:20Speaker 2: it is important to recognize that health plans vary significantly
- 4:23Speaker 2: in their coverage and protections. So when we tell people
- 4:27Speaker 2: whenever you're thinking of looking at health insurance or medical insurance,
- 4:31Speaker 2: you need to be mindful of not only premium but coverage,
- 4:35Speaker 2: because while some alternatives may initially appear more cost effective,
- 4:39Speaker 2: they frequently do not offer the comprehensive benefits and safeguards
- 4:43Speaker 2: of major medical plans. Major medical plans are often available
- 4:47Speaker 2: through an employer sponsored health plan, the Affordable Care Act exchange,
- 4:51Speaker 2: or directly through an insurance company. And as we move
- 4:54Speaker 2: on through the remainder of the show, we're going to
- 4:56Speaker 2: talk about the different optionalities that are out there. But
- 5:00Speaker 2: you just have to understand the difference between major medical
- 5:04Speaker 2: and other options that are available.
- 5:06Speaker 1: Really important distinction for sure. This morning, as we talk
- 5:08Speaker 1: with CJ. Closs and Eric Schwartz, our retirement planning professionals
- 5:11Speaker 1: from Claws Financial, if you've got a question, love to
- 5:13Speaker 1: get you on the air this morning six eight three
- 5:15Speaker 1: two one thirteen ten. That's six soh eight three two
- 5:18Speaker 1: one thirteen ten. So, Eric, we hear a lot of
- 5:20Speaker 1: discussion about the Affordable Care Act. Of course, folks may
- 5:24Speaker 1: know it as ACA or Obamacare. Let's talk about some
- 5:26Speaker 1: of the background on what exactly ACA entails.
- 5:31Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think this is really important, Sean, because
- 5:33Speaker 3: I think, you know, this discussion can get kind of
- 5:37Speaker 3: caught up in the world of politics and the issues
- 5:41Speaker 3: of the day. But I mean this is, you know,
- 5:43Speaker 3: how people get their health insurance when they don't have
- 5:46Speaker 3: another option. So, just to give kind of a quick
- 5:49Speaker 3: definition of it, at its core, the ACA set minimum
- 5:53Speaker 3: standards for what qualifies as major medical insurance coverage. So
- 5:57Speaker 3: it didn't eliminate private insurance companies. It didn't create like
- 6:01Speaker 3: a public health care plan, but instead it created rules
- 6:04Speaker 3: that private insurance companies have to follow around what comprehensive
- 6:08Speaker 3: coverage must include. And you know how consumers are actually
- 6:12Speaker 3: protected through that process. So, for example, ACA compliant plans
- 6:16Speaker 3: must cover what are called essential health benefits. They can't
- 6:19Speaker 3: deny coverage based on pre existing conditions, and they can't
- 6:22Speaker 3: impose lifetime dollar limits on coverage. So these are just
- 6:26Speaker 3: kind of some of those examples of what the writers
- 6:29Speaker 3: of the plan would call those those consumer protections. The
- 6:33Speaker 3: ACA also created the health insurance marketplaces, where individuals and
- 6:37Speaker 3: families can shop for coverage. And now this is only
- 6:40Speaker 3: generally going to come into play if they don't have
- 6:42Speaker 3: coverage available through an employer or a government program like
- 6:46Speaker 3: Medicaid or Medicare. Private insurance companies offer health insurance plans
- 6:52Speaker 3: that meet the minimum ACAA requirements to consumers through these exchanges.
- 6:57Speaker 3: So one of the largest impacts beyond creating the exchanges
- 7:01Speaker 3: of the Affordable Care Act is the creation of a
- 7:04Speaker 3: government subsidy program that provides premium assistant based on a
- 7:08Speaker 3: taxpayers MAGI or modified adjusted gross income. These subsidies are
- 7:13Speaker 3: generally paid directly to insurance companies on behalf of the policyholders,
- 7:18Speaker 3: and they're designed to help reduce the cost of purchasing
- 7:20Speaker 3: private health insurance. Last piece here that I'll point out
- 7:24Speaker 3: is the ACA offers different levels of health insurance coverage.
- 7:29Speaker 3: They're commonly known as metal tiers. So there's a bronze plan,
- 7:32Speaker 3: there's a silver, a gold, platinum. Each level varies in
- 7:36Speaker 3: how costs are shared between the insurer and the consumer.
- 7:40Speaker 3: Bronze plans generally have lower premiums but higher out of
- 7:43Speaker 3: pocket costs. So CJ was just was just referencing that
- 7:47Speaker 3: in the last segment. Here just the idea of you know,
- 7:50Speaker 3: there is not a free lunch, and it's all about
- 7:52Speaker 3: how you're paying for something, not necessarily the total amount
- 7:56Speaker 3: changing a lot. On the other hand, platinum plans will
- 7:59Speaker 3: have higher premiums, but you know they'll have those lower
- 8:02Speaker 3: out of pocket costs generally, and the tiers allow individuals
- 8:05Speaker 3: to choose a plan that best fits their their health
- 8:08Speaker 3: needs and their financial situation.
- 8:11Speaker 1: Talking this morning with Eric Swartz and cjch Loss, they
- 8:13Speaker 1: are our retirement planning professionals from Class Financial. Don't forget
- 8:16Speaker 1: about the website COSS financial dot com. That's COSS k
- 8:19Speaker 1: l A A S Financial dot com. Their telephone number
- 8:22Speaker 1: six oh eight four four two five six three seven.
- 8:25Speaker 1: Don't forget no charge for that initial gets know you
- 8:27Speaker 1: appointment Tech Loss Financial. It will be complementary to you
- 8:30Speaker 1: again their number six oh eight four four two five
- 8:33Speaker 1: six three seven. Talking this week about ACA and major
- 8:37Speaker 1: medical and some of the things you need to understand
- 8:39Speaker 1: when it comes to those and Eric, you mentioned the
- 8:43Speaker 1: premium subsidies. It kind of reminds me of some of
- 8:46Speaker 1: those questions. You hear a lot about ACA plans, and
- 8:50Speaker 1: I think one of the biggest ones is are they
- 8:52Speaker 1: only for folks with low income? And when it comes
- 8:55Speaker 1: to quality of an ACA plan, how do they compare
- 8:57Speaker 1: with with an employer plan.
- 9:00Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a really really important point and a
- 9:02Speaker 3: really common misconception, especially when people are investigating health insurance
- 9:06Speaker 3: on their own for the first time. ACA plans are
- 9:10Speaker 3: not just for people with low income. I think people
- 9:13Speaker 3: think that because number one the name is the Affordable
- 9:16Speaker 3: Care Act, and the ACA does provide financial assistance for
- 9:20Speaker 3: some households, but many people who use ACA compliant plans
- 9:24Speaker 3: don't receive any subsidies at all. So if you're modified
- 9:27Speaker 3: adjusted gross income exceeds certain limits, you don't actually get
- 9:30Speaker 3: premium assistance on the ACA. So self employed individuals, people
- 9:35Speaker 3: who retire before Medicare eligibility, and people who are just
- 9:38Speaker 3: between jobs will often rely on ACA plans because they
- 9:41Speaker 3: don't have access to employer coverage. Now your second question there,
- 9:46Speaker 3: you know, what is the quality of an ACA plan
- 9:48Speaker 3: compared to an employer plan. ACA compliant plans must meet
- 9:52Speaker 3: the same baseline standards as employer plans, so they aren't
- 9:55Speaker 3: inherently better or worse than employer plans, And in fact,
- 9:59Speaker 3: both types coverage are required by law to include those
- 10:02Speaker 3: essential health benefits and consumer protections that I talked about earlier,
- 10:06Speaker 3: so coverage for preventive care, hospitalization, and prescription drugs. The
- 10:11Speaker 3: real difference usually comes down to provider networks, deductibles, and
- 10:14Speaker 3: how costs are shared. So this means that the insurance
- 10:18Speaker 3: company you choose and the plan structure can influence which
- 10:21Speaker 3: doctors you can see, how much you pay out of
- 10:23Speaker 3: pocket before insurance begins to cover costs, and how your
- 10:27Speaker 3: expenses are divided between co payments, co insurance and premium.
- 10:31Speaker 3: So it's really less about good versus bad and more
- 10:34Speaker 3: about whether a plan fits someone's specific situation. And as
- 10:38Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier there the ACA has different levels of coverage,
- 10:42Speaker 3: so you know, based on what level of coverage you
- 10:45Speaker 3: choose and the amount of premium you pay, that's really
- 10:48Speaker 3: where you're going to get into more of the You know,
- 10:51Speaker 3: does this cover or do I have as much out
- 10:53Speaker 3: of pocket as I might with my employer plan.
- 10:56Speaker 1: Really interesting stuff and if you missed any part of
- 10:58Speaker 1: today's program you want to listen back shared. Of course,
- 11:00Speaker 1: you can always head on over to Clossfinancial dot com.
- 11:03Speaker 1: That's Coss k l a a s Financial dot com.
- 11:06Speaker 1: You can listen to and subscribe to the podcast right
- 11:09Speaker 1: there online. Also, while you're at the website, you can
- 11:11Speaker 1: schedule a complementary conversation right from Cossfinancial dot com or
- 11:15Speaker 1: you can call the office right here in Madison at
- 11:17Speaker 1: six oh eight four four two five six three seven.
- 11:20Speaker 1: No charge for that initial gets to know you, Apployment Tech,
- 11:22Speaker 1: Class Financial, It will be complimentary to you. Again, they're
- 11:25Speaker 1: number six oh eight four four two five six three seven.
- 11:29Speaker 1: We're going to talk about some of the other other
- 11:31Speaker 1: areas to be aware of when it comes to understanding
- 11:35Speaker 1: this stuff, things like you know how it fits in
- 11:39Speaker 1: kind of with things like your broader financial plan. We'll
- 11:41Speaker 1: get the details from CJ and Eric and we will
- 11:43Speaker 1: do that next as Money in Motion with Coss Financial
- 11:46Speaker 1: continues right here on thirteen ten. Wuib I talking this
- 11:49Speaker 1: morning with our retirement planning professionals CJ. Coloss and Eric Schwartz.
- 11:53Speaker 1: Of course they come to us from Class Financial, the
- 11:55Speaker 1: website COSS financial dot com. That's COSS k l a
- 11:59Speaker 1: A S Financial and their telephone number six so eight
- 12:02Speaker 1: four four to two five six three seven. Talking this
- 12:05Speaker 1: week about understanding ACA and of course major medical what
- 12:09Speaker 1: you need to know, what some of the differences are,
- 12:11Speaker 1: some of the nuances there are as well in CJ
- 12:15Speaker 1: as we talk each and every week on this program
- 12:18Speaker 1: about retirement planning and really getting things organized and being prepared.
- 12:23Speaker 1: Let's talk then about how health insurance decisions impact someone's
- 12:27Speaker 1: broader financial plan.
- 12:29Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 12:29Speaker 2: Well, the reality is Sean and Eric can attest to this.
- 12:33Speaker 2: Health insurance or the lack of coverage or expensive health
- 12:37Speaker 2: insurance premiums are actually probably the most common reason why
- 12:41Speaker 2: people choose not to retire until getting to sixty five.
- 12:45Speaker 2: And so on the one hand, you know that disappoints
- 12:49Speaker 2: people like Eric and I because we can do planning
- 12:51Speaker 2: to kind of plan for higher premiums or different types
- 12:53Speaker 2: of coverages or whatnot. But to kind of answer the
- 12:59Speaker 2: initial question you had is how does this impact someone's
- 13:01Speaker 2: broader financial plan? Well, I would say it's the lynch pin, right.
- 13:05Speaker 2: This health insurance component is a really big mental barrier
- 13:09Speaker 2: for a lot of the people that we work with.
- 13:11Speaker 2: And let me just say, as I get into this
- 13:13Speaker 2: next section, I can imagine that some listeners, maybe you
- 13:17Speaker 2: can be honest with yourself, are starting to get a
- 13:20Speaker 2: little bit squirmy as we talk about this, Like I
- 13:23Speaker 2: don't think the Affordable Car Act is good think. And
- 13:26Speaker 2: here's what I'd say to you. We're not here to
- 13:28Speaker 2: play political pundits. We're not here to say whether it
- 13:32Speaker 2: adds to the federal deficit. We're not here to do
- 13:34Speaker 2: any of that. We're here to tell you the facts
- 13:35Speaker 2: about how the plan works. And my encouragement would be
- 13:39Speaker 2: when you actually break it down. It's a pretty simple concept.
- 13:42Speaker 2: It's like meant to be kind of like your group
- 13:44Speaker 2: plan with basically kind of like in your group plan.
- 13:47Speaker 2: They it might be expensive, it might be cheap. It
- 13:50Speaker 2: depends on how much your employer actually puts towards it. Well,
- 13:52Speaker 2: that's kind of like the subsidies, right. If your income
- 13:55Speaker 2: is low enough you can qualify for some subsidies, it'll
- 13:57Speaker 2: be cheaper. If you don't qualify for subsidies, it might
- 13:59Speaker 2: be more or expensive. You have choice around low deductibles,
- 14:02Speaker 2: high deductibles. It's not that complicated at the base level.
- 14:07Speaker 2: Now again, when you get into what choices do I
- 14:11Speaker 2: have and how expensive are those premiums, that's decisions you'll
- 14:15Speaker 2: have to make. But just want to encourage our listeners,
- 14:18Speaker 2: if it's possible, try to kind of like bring down
- 14:22Speaker 2: any kind of political pundent elements of this and listen
- 14:26Speaker 2: to how these plans actually work. So, health insurance decisions
- 14:30Speaker 2: affect a lot of things. It affects cash flow, emergency savings,
- 14:34Speaker 2: and long term planning. Premiums are predictable expenses, but deductibles
- 14:38Speaker 2: and out of pocket expenses can vary widely. While Eric
- 14:42Speaker 2: and I talk about this stuff, we are consumers as well.
- 14:45Speaker 2: We do not like high, unknown, unexpected expenses. It's actually
- 14:51Speaker 2: really difficult to plan for in financial planning, which is
- 14:54Speaker 2: part of the reason why it matters to us that
- 14:56Speaker 2: there are options available to people. Health insurance also plays
- 15:01Speaker 2: a major role during life transitions. I mean, just think
- 15:04Speaker 2: if you have a career change or suddenly are laid
- 15:06Speaker 2: off and can't find another job, having some sort of
- 15:09Speaker 2: a fallback health insurance plan that provides some element of
- 15:13Speaker 2: comprehensive coverage matters a lot. Now, again, whether that's the
- 15:16Speaker 2: Affordable Care Act or something that eventually replaces that. We're
- 15:20Speaker 2: not again staying out of the political pundent element of this.
- 15:24Speaker 2: It is important that there is something for people to
- 15:26Speaker 2: fall back on when they no longer have a group
- 15:30Speaker 2: health coverage through their employer. And if you're in a
- 15:33Speaker 2: situation where you're needing to select health insurance plans on
- 15:36Speaker 2: your own, we believe working with an independent or insurance
- 15:39Speaker 2: agent is a great idea. And just to remind you all,
- 15:42Speaker 2: we aren't that we are not the independent insurance agent.
- 15:45Speaker 2: We're financial advisors. We can connect you with independent insurance agents,
- 15:49Speaker 2: but man oh man, are they super helpful because they
- 15:52Speaker 2: kind of know the whole landscape and what's available. So
- 15:55Speaker 2: independent agents can help you balance the features and benefits
- 15:59Speaker 2: to find the right plan for your specific situation. And
- 16:02Speaker 2: the plan with the lowest premium is not necessarily the
- 16:05Speaker 2: best plan. It's a huge mistake we often see people make,
- 16:08Speaker 2: which is I'm out of a job, I want the
- 16:10Speaker 2: cheapest plan I can get, and we go, ooh, that's great.
- 16:14Speaker 1: And I'm with you. But if you need to.
- 16:16Speaker 2: Use the doctor, you're gonna have high out of pocket expenses,
- 16:19Speaker 2: So a lower premium might look appealing, but it often
- 16:22Speaker 2: comes with those higher out of pocket expenses. So again
- 16:27Speaker 2: you need to work with an independent insurance agent who
- 16:30Speaker 2: can kind of help you weigh the pros and cons
- 16:32Speaker 2: along with how long you will need a particular plan
- 16:36Speaker 2: before possibly jumping onto Medicare if you get to sixty five,
- 16:39Speaker 2: or jumping on to a group plan if you get reemployed.
- 16:43Speaker 1: Doctor This morning with CJ class at Eric Schwartz our
- 16:45Speaker 1: retirement planning professionals from Class Financial to website Class financial
- 16:48Speaker 1: dot Com. That's Claus k l a as Financial dot
- 16:51Speaker 1: com and Eric, are there any rules folks should know
- 16:54Speaker 1: about when they sign up for these health insurance plans?
- 17:00Speaker 3: Some rules people should know and one of the big
- 17:03Speaker 3: ones that impacts our friends in the insurance industry. As
- 17:07Speaker 3: CJ was just mentioning those independent agents, one of their
- 17:12Speaker 3: busiest time of year is what we call open enrollment.
- 17:15Speaker 3: So this is the annual window. It's typically between November
- 17:18Speaker 3: first and January fifteenth in most states. This is the
- 17:23Speaker 3: annual window when you can enroll in or change your
- 17:26Speaker 3: ACA compliant healthcare coverage. So during open enrollment you can
- 17:30Speaker 3: update your plan or add or remove family members. Outside
- 17:34Speaker 3: of this period. You usually need what's called a qualifying
- 17:36Speaker 3: event a qualifying life event, in order to sign up
- 17:41Speaker 3: or make changes. So examples of this would be like,
- 17:44Speaker 3: maybe you lose your job and you don't have employer coverage.
- 17:47Speaker 3: Maybe you get married or you get divorced, you have
- 17:49Speaker 3: a child, maybe you adopt a child, or you move
- 17:52Speaker 3: to a new state. These are the types of events
- 17:55Speaker 3: that trigger what are called a special enrollment period, which
- 17:59Speaker 3: gives you sixty days to adjust your coverage outside of
- 18:02Speaker 3: that open enrollment window. Now missing open enrollment, this often
- 18:07Speaker 3: means that you're limited to short term or limited coverage
- 18:11Speaker 3: plans that maybe don't provide the same level of protections
- 18:15Speaker 3: as other health insurance plans are required to. So planning
- 18:18Speaker 3: ahead is really key here. Making sure that if you
- 18:21Speaker 3: are going to be working with an independent agent, you're
- 18:24Speaker 3: reaching out to them early. You're reviewing your health insurance
- 18:28Speaker 3: options before open enrollment ends, frankly before it begins as
- 18:32Speaker 3: a good idea as well, and especially if you expect
- 18:35Speaker 3: changes in your job, your income, or your family. These
- 18:38Speaker 3: things can affect eligibility for your subsidies, and they you
- 18:44Speaker 3: know these types of changes also will give you an
- 18:47Speaker 3: opportunity to make changes to your plan outside of that
- 18:50Speaker 3: enrollment period, so annual review and understanding of enrollment rules
- 18:55Speaker 3: really helps ensure that you get the right coverage for
- 18:57Speaker 3: that year.
- 18:57Speaker 1: Talk this morning with Eric Schwartz and CJ Closs, retirement
- 19:00Speaker 1: planning professionals from Class Financial. Talk with CJ, we'll talk
- 19:03Speaker 1: about some of the some of the other alternatives to
- 19:06Speaker 1: major medical insurance and some little key areas you need
- 19:09Speaker 1: to understand. We'll get the details from CJ and Eric.
- 19:12Speaker 1: We will do that next as Money in Motion with
- 19:14Speaker 1: Coss Financial continues right here on thirteen ten dobleu ib
- 19:18Speaker 1: I and the website Coss Financial dot com that's Coss
- 19:21Speaker 1: k l aa S financial dot com. Get to know
- 19:24Speaker 1: the team. You can learn also about how costs can
- 19:26Speaker 1: help you or if your employer, some of the different
- 19:29Speaker 1: divisions and how they can help you at Class Financial
- 19:31Speaker 1: online cossfinancial dot com. You can also schedule a complementary
- 19:34Speaker 1: chat right from the website that's Coss k l AA
- 19:38Speaker 1: S financial dot com, or you can call the office
- 19:40Speaker 1: right here in Madison at six O eight four four
- 19:42Speaker 1: two five six three seven No charge for that initial
- 19:45Speaker 1: get to know your appointment at COSS financial it will
- 19:47Speaker 1: be complementary to you again their number six oh eight,
- 19:50Speaker 1: four four two, five, six three seven. Talking about this
- 19:54Speaker 1: week about major medical and the Affordable Care Act and
- 19:58Speaker 1: CJ Eric just for break had mentioned some alternatives to
- 20:01Speaker 1: major medical insurance. What are some of those that we
- 20:05Speaker 1: should be aware of?
- 20:06Speaker 2: Yeah, we kin hinted at this at the beginning of
- 20:10Speaker 2: the show, But there are other options that are available.
- 20:12Speaker 2: So while many consumers choose a traditional major medical health
- 20:16Speaker 2: insurance plan, there are some less common alternatives. So let's
- 20:20Speaker 2: look at a few examples of those. There's something called
- 20:23Speaker 2: short term health insurance. These provide temporary, cost effective coverage
- 20:27Speaker 2: for periods between plans. However, it does not comply with
- 20:31Speaker 2: the ACA requirements or like group health insurance plan requirements,
- 20:35Speaker 2: and typically excludes coverage for pre existing conditions and essential benefits.
- 20:41Speaker 2: There's another thing called like health sharing or medical cost
- 20:44Speaker 2: sharing programs. We actually, I don't know how often Eric
- 20:47Speaker 2: runs into this, but I run into it fairly often.
- 20:50Speaker 2: These are nonprofit community arrangements through which members collectively share
- 20:54Speaker 2: medical expenses. It's important to note that these programs are
- 20:57Speaker 2: not insurance at all. They actually the claim payment is
- 21:00Speaker 2: not guaranteed and coverage guidelines can differ substantially depending upon
- 21:04Speaker 2: what medical sharing arrangement you're a part of. There's options
- 21:09Speaker 2: for what are called fixed indemnity or hospital or accident plans.
- 21:13Speaker 2: These plans provide predetermined cash benefits for designated events and
- 21:17Speaker 2: are typically low cost. However, they do not cover all
- 21:21Speaker 2: medical expenses and are intended solely as supplemental coverage. There's
- 21:26Speaker 2: also what are called direct primary care solutions. This model
- 21:29Speaker 2: involves a monthly membership fee for routine primary care services,
- 21:34Speaker 2: offering affordability and transparency. However, it does not include coverage
- 21:39Speaker 2: for specialist consultations, hospitalizations, or emergency care.
- 21:43Speaker 1: As a matter of.
- 21:44Speaker 2: Fact, little plug, I believe you guys have had doctor
- 21:47Speaker 2: Nicole Hemkis on here before. Okay, well, she would be
- 21:51Speaker 2: one of those direct primary care solutions that are out
- 21:54Speaker 2: there where. And the whole concept of this is, hey,
- 21:57Speaker 2: you know, with the way that hospitals have changed over time,
- 22:00Speaker 2: it becomes very expensive just to go in and see
- 22:03Speaker 2: like a doctor. And so these direct primary care solutions
- 22:07Speaker 2: can be a way for you to get say seventy
- 22:09Speaker 2: to eighty percent of your medical care, kind of like
- 22:11Speaker 2: daily medical care. Needs met by somebody like you know,
- 22:14Speaker 2: Nicole Hemkus so that you stay out of the more
- 22:17Speaker 2: expensive large hospital systems. So really kind of cool unique
- 22:22Speaker 2: solutions that are available here in the States. And then
- 22:25Speaker 2: another one would be association or group style plans. These
- 22:28Speaker 2: plans provide coverage through associations or alternative group arrangements. However, again,
- 22:33Speaker 2: their protections and benefits may differ and do not always
- 22:36Speaker 2: meet the Affordable Care Act standards.
- 22:39Speaker 1: So listen.
- 22:39Speaker 2: While there's a number of alternatives to traditional major medical plans,
- 22:43Speaker 2: the bottom line is that alternatives typically cost less, but
- 22:46Speaker 2: involves some element of additional risk through fewer protections or
- 22:50Speaker 2: out of pocket expenses or like maybe not covering major
- 22:54Speaker 2: medical expenses that would come up. So what we love
- 22:59Speaker 2: as Americans, which I do as well, is choice. We
- 23:03Speaker 2: love choice, and so the thing is good news. Whether
- 23:07Speaker 2: it's through the Affordable Care Act, you have kind of
- 23:09Speaker 2: those four different metal tiers as they call them. If
- 23:12Speaker 2: you don't like the Affordable Care Act because it's maybe
- 23:15Speaker 2: too expensive for you or whatever, it might be cool.
- 23:18Speaker 2: There's other options, like all the ones that I just
- 23:20Speaker 2: went through for you. The key for us as financial
- 23:24Speaker 2: planners is that you know, your choices and you know
- 23:27Speaker 2: the risks associated with those choices. As long as you
- 23:31Speaker 2: know those two things, good news.
- 23:33Speaker 1: You've got a lot of choices. Talking this morning with CJ.
- 23:36Speaker 1: Closs and Eric Schwartz, a lot of great information this
- 23:39Speaker 1: week in the program Don't Forge Again. Always listen backclass
- 23:43Speaker 1: Financial dot Com. That's Class k l Aasfinancial dot com.
- 23:47Speaker 1: And speaking of all that information, of course, listening back
- 23:49Speaker 1: to the podcast, Hi Eric, before we wrap up, can
- 23:52Speaker 1: we kind of just kind of get like a highlight
- 23:54Speaker 1: takeaway from the show for folks that kind of want
- 23:56Speaker 1: everything nice and nicely encapsulated.
- 24:00Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah, So, I think a big part of what
- 24:04Speaker 3: we wanted to communicate today is choosing a health insurance
- 24:06Speaker 3: plan is really about managing risk right. Healthcare costs are
- 24:10Speaker 3: one of the biggest financial wildcards people face, especially during
- 24:14Speaker 3: life transitions like changing jobs or starting a business or
- 24:18Speaker 3: even retiring early, which something we help people do all
- 24:21Speaker 3: the time. And when we're talking with clients, we're not
- 24:24Speaker 3: just looking at their premiums or looking at how their
- 24:27Speaker 3: how that health insurance plan maybe fits into their cash flow,
- 24:30Speaker 3: their emergency savings, and their their long term goals. For example,
- 24:33Speaker 3: maybe somebody maybe somebody wants to choose a high deductible plan,
- 24:38Speaker 3: for example, because it has a lower premium. But if
- 24:42Speaker 3: they don't have adequate savings, or they aren't setting some
- 24:45Speaker 3: of that premium savings aside to cover out of pocket costs,
- 24:49Speaker 3: it may not treat them treat they may not set
- 24:52Speaker 3: them up the best in the long run. So we
- 24:54Speaker 3: have to be thinking about both sides of that equation,
- 24:58Speaker 3: and health insurance really isn't something that you're going to
- 25:00Speaker 3: choose once and forget about, at least once you're out
- 25:03Speaker 3: of your working years and your employer isn't choosing your
- 25:05Speaker 3: plan for you. For the most part, as your income changes,
- 25:09Speaker 3: as your family situation changes, or your goals evolve, your
- 25:12Speaker 3: coverage needs to be reviewed and potentially changed. So understanding
- 25:18Speaker 3: how these major medical and ACA compliant plans work gives
- 25:23Speaker 3: you more confidence and flexibility when those changes actually happen.
- 25:27Speaker 3: It's really easy to focus on the monthly premium, but
- 25:29Speaker 3: remember that is one part of the equation. We have deductibles,
- 25:33Speaker 3: we have out of pocket maximums, we have network considerations.
- 25:36Speaker 3: All of these things are going to play a role
- 25:39Speaker 3: in how much risk you're taking on. So sometimes paying
- 25:41Speaker 3: a little bit more upfront can reduce that uncertainty and
- 25:44Speaker 3: stress down the road. And the final thing here i'd
- 25:47Speaker 3: remind listeners of, and we love to do this on
- 25:50Speaker 3: the show, is remind people to use professionals. But the
- 25:53Speaker 3: importance of working with a trusted professional on topics like
- 25:57Speaker 3: this just cannot be cannot be overstated. Find an independent
- 26:03Speaker 3: agent who can can help you find the right health
- 26:05Speaker 3: insurance plan for you, because it really really does make
- 26:08Speaker 3: all the difference and it makes it much less stressful.
- 26:11Speaker 1: Really good guidance this week from Eric Schwartz and CJ.
- 26:13Speaker 1: Closs our retirement planning professionals from Class Financial. Don't forget
- 26:17Speaker 1: you can always listen back to the program Cossfinancial dot com.
- 26:20Speaker 1: That's Coss k l a a s Financial dot com.
- 26:23Speaker 1: Speaking of the website, I'm noticing on our notes no
- 26:27Speaker 1: question this week for the Money and Motion listener question corner.
- 26:30Speaker 1: What you should do this week? Email a question info
- 26:32Speaker 1: at Clossfinancial dot com. Email a question to the guys.
- 26:36Speaker 1: We'll answer it on an upcoming show. I'd love to
- 26:38Speaker 1: have you do that again. Just heading over to classfinancial
- 26:39Speaker 1: dot com. There's a link there to it, or info
- 26:41Speaker 1: Atlossfinancial dot com before we wrap up this week of
- 26:45Speaker 1: course closs quiz Question of the Week. Time works like this.
- 26:47Speaker 1: In just a moment, I'll ask you the class quiz
- 26:49Speaker 1: question of the week. You will then have thirty minutes
- 26:51Speaker 1: from the today's program to call the Class Financial office
- 26:53Speaker 1: right here in Madison at six o eight four four
- 26:56Speaker 1: two five, six three seven. If you are the first
- 26:59Speaker 1: caller with the correct answer, you'll win this week's prize,
- 27:01Speaker 1: which is a twenty five dollars gift card to the
- 27:04Speaker 1: cheesecake Factory. This week's class quiz question the week is
- 27:07Speaker 1: this true or false? ACA compliant health insurance plans must
- 27:13Speaker 1: meet the same baseline standards as employer plans. Is that
- 27:18Speaker 1: true or is that false? Telephone number six oh eight
- 27:20Speaker 1: four four two five six three seven. No charge for
- 27:23Speaker 1: that first to get to know your appointment at Loss Financial.
- 27:26Speaker 1: That meeting will be complimentary to you again. That's the
- 27:28Speaker 1: office right here in Madison six oh eight four four
- 27:30Speaker 1: two five six three seven. CJ. Eric, It's always great
- 27:34Speaker 1: chatting with both of you, guys. Enjoy this beautiful day.
- 27:37Speaker 2: Thanks Sean.
- 27:37Speaker 3: Thanks Sean, take care guys.
- 27:39Speaker 1: News comes your way next here on thirteen ten, do
- 27:41Speaker 1: wu ib a