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A Lately Reunion with Guy Branum · Dear Chelsea

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  Speaker 1: Okay, guys, I am officially on my High and Mighty tour.
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  Speaker 1: March twentieth is Denver, Colorado. March twenty seventh Portland, Maine.
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  Speaker 1: March twenty eighth, Providence, Rhode Island. March twenty ninth, Springfield, Massachusetts.
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  Speaker 1: April tenth is Chicago. I'll be at the Chicago Theater.
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  Speaker 1: April eleventh Indianapolis, Indiana. April twelfth Louisville, Kentucky. April sixteenth
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  Speaker 1: is Albuquerque, New Mexico. April seventeenth is Masa, Arizona. April
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  Speaker 1: twenty third is Kansas City, Missouri. April twenty fourth is
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  Speaker 1: Saint Louis, Missouri. April twenty fifth is Minneapolis, Minnesota. April
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  Speaker 1: thirtieth Nashville, Tennessee. May first is Charlotte, North Carolina. May
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  Speaker 1: second is Durham, North Carolina. May sixth I'm doing Netflix
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  Speaker 1: as a joke festival. I will be in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 1: May fifteenth, Saratoga, California. May sixteenth, Monterey, California. May seventeenth Modesto, California,
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  Speaker 1: and then June.
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  Speaker 2: Fourth Portchester, New York.
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  Speaker 1: June fifth is Boston in mass and June twelfth is Portland, Oregon.
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  Speaker 2: And then Seattle is June thirteenth.
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing a second show at the Paramount Theater in
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  Speaker 1: Denver on Saturday, December fifth.
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  Speaker 2: So suck on that. Everybody. Go to Chelseahandler dot com
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  Speaker 2: for tickets.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, Hi Catherine, Good morning, Chelsea, Good morning.
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  Speaker 4: Are you skiing right now?
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  Speaker 2: I am in Aspen. Yes, we're skiing. There's yes, the
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  Speaker 2: conditions are well, it's beautiful here, so it doesn't even matter.
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  Speaker 2: There's no snow anywhere in this world, I don't think anymore.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, I was hosting a gala, a gala, oh
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  Speaker 1: children's oncology like COSF in Aspen, where they were honoring
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  Speaker 1: Goldiehan my mother, my illegitimate mother, and so I was
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  Speaker 1: the host, and so I brought some friends and we
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  Speaker 1: skied yesterday and we're going to ski today.
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  Speaker 2: Then I have shows this weekend in Springfield, Massachusetts, and Portland,
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  Speaker 2: do Main and Rhode Island. Oh my gosh, sorry, does
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  Speaker 2: Goldie know about your private Benjamin fiasco?
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  Speaker 5: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she knows about it. And I did it.
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  Speaker 1: My own monologue was about my private Benjamin fiasco where
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  Speaker 1: I pretended to be a Goldie, where I pretended I
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  Speaker 1: was playing Goldie Hawn's.
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  Speaker 6: Daughter in the sequel to Private Benjamin.
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  Speaker 2: But there was never a sequel to Private Benjamin. So
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  Speaker 2: but I needed people in third grade to respect me,
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  Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Absolutely?
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: I spent the weekend going to San Diego to see
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  Speaker 3: my sister and nephew because he's looking at schools there.
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  Speaker 3: And I decided instead of driving the two hours, to
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  Speaker 3: take the train for four hours.
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  Speaker 6: And how did that go?
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  Speaker 3: It was actually wonderful because it's the Surfliner. It goes
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  Speaker 3: along the coast. I got to watch the sunset. I
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  Speaker 3: added a little whimsy to my life.
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  Speaker 4: I was very excited.
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  Speaker 2: Oh nice whimsy. I like whimsy for a train.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm a jew, so trains and I I
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  Speaker 1: have an allergic reaction to trains.
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  Speaker 2: It's intergenerational trauma.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, that's totally fair.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, we have a very funny guest today. He's one
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  Speaker 1: of my old friends and you'll know him from Chelsea Lately.
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  Speaker 1: Among other things, he's on Platonic, he's been on Hacks.
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  Speaker 1: He's very very funny writer, comedian. I wanted to just
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  Speaker 1: have a nice time with an old friend. Please welcome
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  Speaker 1: Guy Brannam. Radlet's dishovel today, he looks like something happens.
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  Speaker 4: We're trying a new hairstyle.
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  Speaker 2: We're trying, Oh I see, I see.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really blow outa tell me like it.
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  Speaker 2: I told that's a cowboy too.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, how I had this hair where I
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  Speaker 1: had like bangs and I was like, and I was
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  Speaker 1: like pushing his hair back.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, you're gorgeous. Why do you have your hair?
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  Speaker 4: You're like twelve seven. I love that for.
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  Speaker 2: You, cowboy boy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, didn't even know that, possibly, but I forgot it.
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  Speaker 2: If you need a thirty seven year old, I can't
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  Speaker 2: go older now I'm fifty one.
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  Speaker 7: You need some life, You need some life.
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  Speaker 1: I know you need somebody else to keep you up
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  Speaker 1: to speed on things.
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  Speaker 7: Also, and I said this to you before, but I
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  Speaker 7: honestly feel like, if I I were a woman, I
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  Speaker 7: would not want to date anyone who was raised in
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  Speaker 7: the gender reality that we were raised in. You know,
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  Speaker 7: I would want somebody with like a mom who was
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  Speaker 7: a little more politicized.
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  Speaker 1: Ok, That's exactly how I feel, exactly. Because we were
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  Speaker 1: just talking about this, yeah getting the update, with yeah
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  Speaker 1: getting the iPhone update. There are men that are over fifty,
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  Speaker 1: that have not gotten the iPhone update where they don't
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  Speaker 1: understand gender, they don't understand racism, they haven't actually taken
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  Speaker 1: any steps to like disabuse all of the knowledge that
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  Speaker 1: they have been falsely fed.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and they don't get it.
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  Speaker 1: So like younger is better because anyone under I was
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  Speaker 1: trying to say, we were talking to Giton Madrazo from
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  Speaker 1: Stranger Things, so he's twenty three, so he's with it.
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  Speaker 1: But like I was trying to include Cowboy because he's
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  Speaker 1: under forty, but it's really under thirty. Yes, that people
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  Speaker 1: get it unless you're a person of color, or gay
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  Speaker 1: or a part of the LGBT community, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: all of any of those things.
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  Speaker 2: But it's really.
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  Speaker 7: And we all need our updates. They really are Like
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  Speaker 7: as I get older, realizing it's like, oh, I do
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  Speaker 7: have to just think about should I be seeing this differently?
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  Speaker 7: And there are some things where the children I am like,
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  Speaker 7: you're being idiots about this, but I will respect it.
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  Speaker 7: And there are other things where they're right and it's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 7: it's time to get with the program.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like you know the R word, Okay, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to say it here. I don't think it's the
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  Speaker 1: most offensive word, but it doesn't matter what if I
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  Speaker 1: think it's the most offensive word.
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  Speaker 2: It's offensive to people.
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  Speaker 7: The hilarious thing is is that like at shitty open
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  Speaker 7: mics now, the Little Boy comics are doing like a
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  Speaker 7: six minute walk to get a hilarious excuse to say
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  Speaker 7: the R word the way that they used to with
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  Speaker 7: f slurs or like you know, the N word back
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  Speaker 7: in the day. And it is just sort of like
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  Speaker 7: it's like it feels like progress that their bad boy
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  Speaker 7: activity is.
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  Speaker 3: Something like that, right, right, And they think they're being
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  Speaker 3: so original, but with our word like yaminika do you
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  Speaker 3: know yamanica?
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  Speaker 7: Of course?
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  Speaker 2: So she opens for me a lot.
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  Speaker 1: On the road, right, and she's crazy, you know this, right,
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  Speaker 1: she's something's wrong with her, hilarious and crazy and I.
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  Speaker 2: Can physically take her down. I just want to say,
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  Speaker 2: I do it every night. I fucking tackle her for somebody.
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  Speaker 1: The other night, we were in Cleveland and we were
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  Speaker 1: walking out of the car. She was staying at an
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  Speaker 1: Airbnb or a brothel, who knows, and she literally the
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  Speaker 1: wind was so intense in Cleveland that she literally couldn't
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  Speaker 1: balance her. She could not stabilize her body. This woman
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  Speaker 1: is one hundred pounds more than I weigh. Okay, I had.
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  Speaker 2: To get out of the car because I saw the
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  Speaker 2: look of fear in her eyes. I was like, oh
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  Speaker 2: my god, she doesn't think she can do it. Make
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  Speaker 2: the walk. It was like fifty yards.
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  Speaker 1: I get out of the car, I grab her, I
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  Speaker 1: stabilize her on her ballast, and we get her to
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  Speaker 1: the door and she's.
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  Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, that wind is so scary. And
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  Speaker 2: then she's like, how the fuck are you so strong?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel your abs because like that's the center
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  Speaker 1: of gravity.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it makes no sense.
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  Speaker 1: We were trying to figure out actually what happens when
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  Speaker 1: the wind blows that hard and doesn't knock you over
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  Speaker 1: versus when it does.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, is this an argument for chair pilates. Should
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  Speaker 7: more of be doing chairpul possibly?
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  Speaker 2: Possibly?
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  Speaker 1: Or or because like even when I ski and the
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  Speaker 1: wind is crazy, people aren't getting knocked over. What like
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  Speaker 1: mile per hour wind do you need to actually be
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  Speaker 1: knocked over as a person who is one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: thirty pounds.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, he's very exciting when you have a wind
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  Speaker 7: that really does make you feel like, uh oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: getting tossed around by a wave I love. But yeah,
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  Speaker 7: I mean I think it's all about core. But like
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  Speaker 7: you're you're a big fan of like the core strength sport.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a big fan of being strong, Like I
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  Speaker 1: love being strong, because otherwise what am I going to do?
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  Speaker 2: Just you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I can't have people like her and thinking they can
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  Speaker 1: fucking beat me up or.
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  Speaker 2: Pake you up.
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  Speaker 7: You've been going out on the road with Yamanika, You've
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  Speaker 7: been having Megan Gaily time, You've been having a lovely
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  Speaker 7: community of ladies around you. Yea, who else have you
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  Speaker 7: been going out on the road with?
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  Speaker 1: Rachel Feinstein has been opening for me a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: Amina Amani, do you know? I mean, she's really funny.
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  Speaker 1: She's out of New York. I'm gonna I'm about to
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  Speaker 1: announce a new boutch to date, so I'm gonna give
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  Speaker 1: her some too, because I can't put all my Yaminika
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  Speaker 1: and I. She slept with me twice this weekend. She
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  Speaker 1: double booked her hotels. She's so fucking disorganized, So I
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  Speaker 1: was like, you can sleep in my room.
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  Speaker 2: And after this weekend, I literally couldn't.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I feel like I haven't slept in
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  Speaker 1: thirty six hours, so I can't put all my eggs
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  Speaker 1: in one basket with Yaminika.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 7: I also love having someone to chit chat with in
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  Speaker 7: the hotel.
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  Speaker 6: I do, I do?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a girl, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it? So okay, Guy Brandham.
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  Speaker 1: We used to work together on Chelsea Lately and Chelsea
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  Speaker 1: Lately Days. We worked for how I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: many years together. Three years okay, it feels like more, yes,
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  Speaker 1: but okay. So, and then we saw each other a
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  Speaker 1: few weeks ago. We went out to dinner a couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks ago. I was on my way to do
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  Speaker 1: some set I think at the improv. Yeah, So it
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  Speaker 1: was really nice to catch up. And I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I thought it would be great to have you on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast so we could shoot some shit. Yes, like
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  Speaker 1: old times and and fucking gossip.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of yours.
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  Speaker 2: So I was very that's very sweet.
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  Speaker 7: That's very sweet, Like I have such warm feelings. It
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  Speaker 7: really was like a family in all of the best
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  Speaker 7: and worst ways. But the best parts were like getting
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  Speaker 7: to gossip and really like getting to tear apart. You
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  Speaker 7: know when Jamie Lene Spears got pregnant when we all watch.
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  Speaker 8: How's That Going, by the way, well she apparently was
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  Speaker 8: like a little bit complicit in the keeping Britney Spears,
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  Speaker 8: like under the conservatorship, I think, but that, and then
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  Speaker 8: when we watched the Lifetime hand Job Prostitute TV movie together,
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  Speaker 8: like really one of the highlights of my life.
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  Speaker 2: Remind remind me the Lifetime hand Job movie.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, it was like one of the girls from Party
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  Speaker 7: of Five, not Lacy Shabert, the.
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  Speaker 2: Other one Nev Campbell.
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  Speaker 7: No, maybe it was Lacy Shabert.
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  Speaker 2: The point I think it was.
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  Speaker 7: The point is is it was like prostitute who worked
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  Speaker 7: only with hand jobs. And I remember Sybil Shepherd played
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  Speaker 7: the mom and it was coming on and we would
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  Speaker 7: have to watch these things. It's also really funny, like
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  Speaker 7: the first time I watched RuPaul's Drag Race was for
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  Speaker 7: Chelsea Lately because like there's a new show, Oh, we
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  Speaker 7: have to win. We watched reality shows and stuff, and
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  Speaker 7: like it's been on for like eighteen years now.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever been on RuPaul's Drag Race?
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  Speaker 4: No, well you should be time for you to guess, Judge.
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  Speaker 7: I am I'm not allowed to talk about that right now. Okay,
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  Speaker 7: Well I am going to be in the drag Race
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  Speaker 7: movie that's coming out. Oh nice, yeah later this spring.
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  Speaker 2: Oh cool.
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  Speaker 1: And you've been You've been on a bunch of TV
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  Speaker 1: shows so Chelsea lately.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, I've been on Platonic, I've been on Hacks.
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  Speaker 1: Platonic is a great show, underrated. I love fucking Roseburn.
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  Speaker 1: She's so awesome.
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  Speaker 7: Well, it was such an exciting night for Rose last night.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, she's like, she has a real rich, interesting career,
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  Speaker 7: but that doesn't always end up in like a wardsy thing.
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  Speaker 7: She does funny things as well, But that she got
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  Speaker 7: such respect for if I had, like I kick you
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  Speaker 7: and I was really hoping for but Jesse Buckley was
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  Speaker 7: gonna win.
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  Speaker 2: What about Michael B.
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  Speaker 6: Jordan?
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  Speaker 2: And first of all, I'm so fucking happy Michael B.
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  Speaker 2: Jordan one. And I'm so happy that Timothy Shalamy did not.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, now listen, And I know that this is a
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  Speaker 1: sensitive topic because we're saying I had to look up
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  Speaker 1: when the voting ended for the Oscars. I looked that
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  Speaker 1: up to find out it started on February twenty sixth,
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  Speaker 1: and it ended on March tenth, So his comments, Timothy
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  Speaker 1: Shalome's comments about the ballet and Opera had an impact
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  Speaker 1: for sure, because I.
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  Speaker 2: Thought, oh, maybe they voted on this month ago. Michael B.
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  Speaker 1: Jordan deserves this definitely, hands down period period. He or
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  Speaker 1: Leo I think were the two best performances. And I
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  Speaker 1: would say Michael B. Jordan because he deserves it.
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  Speaker 7: I mean he played two roles.
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  Speaker 2: I played two Yes, he played two people.
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  Speaker 1: That movie was so huge and such a blockbuster and
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  Speaker 1: got not like a modicum of the respect it deserves
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  Speaker 1: from the industry because the industry is so fucking racist.
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  Speaker 1: But by saying that Timothy Shallo may blew it, it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of taking away.
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  Speaker 2: From Michael B. Jordan's deserving of the award.
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  Speaker 7: But I think it's also interesting the way that we
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  Speaker 7: were all like, it's Timmy's year, he gets nominated all
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  Speaker 7: the time, this will be the one that he wins for,
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  Speaker 7: and then we were all like is it? And I
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  Speaker 7: really feel as much as the comments, I think people
• 11:55
  Speaker 7: just being like a little bit annoyed with Marty Supreme.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he was acting like Martin Supreme in his interviews,
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  Speaker 1: But that's is that Marty Supremer, is that Timothy Shalomey
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  Speaker 1: is the question, Like, just it's just too much like
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  Speaker 1: watching someone and I think I got I did.
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  Speaker 2: I said something after the Critics' Choice Awards. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: it's just really hard to watch somebody pump themselves up
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  Speaker 2: like this so much. I'm pumped their own movie.
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  Speaker 1: I understand your campaign to win an Oscar. We all
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  Speaker 1: understand how it works. You have to campaign, you have
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  Speaker 1: to do interviews, But to go out there when you're
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  Speaker 1: competing against Leo DiCaprio, who fucking deserves an Oscar for
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  Speaker 1: every single thing he does, when you're decreating competing against
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  Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan, who people who are older than you
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  Speaker 1: and have been doing at this a long time, like
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  Speaker 1: there should be a level of deference or humility. Like
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  Speaker 1: I remember the one interview where he which is the
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  Speaker 1: interview I had commented on, and my PR team was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you kind of went after Timothy's Chalomey for no reason.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I know, but he's annoying.
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  Speaker 1: Was like, I've been delivering A plus performances for the
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  Speaker 1: last seven to eight years of my life, or the
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  Speaker 1: last seven eight years, I've been giving you A plus performances.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't get any better than this.
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  Speaker 2: This is it. This is like a level and you're like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's annoying.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, I mean the thing is like he's still young, Like.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he's got time, Delroy.
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  Speaker 7: Lindo, he's been out there doing the work for like decades,
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  Speaker 7: and was it was a little entitled. And there's also
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  Speaker 7: the way that like his brand pivot I don't think helped.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, dating the Jenner girl and all of that
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  Speaker 7: does make you wonder and like he's supposed to be
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  Speaker 7: our little artie boy. He's supposed to be our call
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  Speaker 7: me by your name boy. And then saying the thing
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  Speaker 7: about the opera and ballet was just like, what are
• 13:34
  Speaker 7: you doing lou Manhattan boy?
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  Speaker 1: Don't you think that part of his rebranding is gonna
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: be without Kylie Jenner? Yeah, she's gonna I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna be a one together for so long.
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  Speaker 2: But now he has to rebrand. He has to.
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  Speaker 1: He's probably devastated that he didn't win, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he knows he blew it. But I also
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  Speaker 1: am very sensitive to the fact that that is that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Michael B. Jordan, I do think he deserves
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  Speaker 1: an Oscar. He was fucking great in that movie. And
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  Speaker 1: I also think Hollywood has to be more conscientious and
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  Speaker 1: responsible to people of color, Like it's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 7: The other thing that was cool the race that award, yes,
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  Speaker 7: is that thus far, all of the guys who have
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  Speaker 7: won for like black men who have won for Best
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  Speaker 7: Actor won after a long career, like people winning in
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  Speaker 7: their forties, and like having somebody who like, look, he's
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  Speaker 7: been around since all my children and you know, Friday
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  Speaker 7: Night Lights, but like Michael B. Jordan, being somebody whose
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  Speaker 7: best stuff is still ahead of him and having an
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  Speaker 7: Academy award is exciting.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, did you see that Nicole Kidman came out publicly
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: with Simon Baker that they're together.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: They've announced the in a relationship.
• 14:40
  Speaker 7: Good for her, but also like, this is a good
• 14:42
  Speaker 7: move for Simon Baker because I don't think he's in
• 14:44
  Speaker 7: the Devil Wears product too, And it's a great way
• 14:47
  Speaker 7: of saying, how dare you not put me in the
• 14:48
  Speaker 7: Devil Worst product too? See in the first one, he
• 14:50
  Speaker 7: was he played the like I'm pretty sure yeah, he
• 14:53
  Speaker 7: played this. Yes, he played the nefarious guy who she
• 14:55
  Speaker 7: was and Hathaway was tented by. But then like good
• 15:00
  Speaker 7: for Nicole kid n I mean ever since.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: I think they must have replaced Simon Baker with Kara
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: Swisher because Kara Swisher keeps talking about being being in
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: a scene of The Devil Wars Brada I'm pretty sure.
• 15:10
  Speaker 7: I mean she is rakishly handsome.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she is, she is. I love Kara, I love Cara.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: I listened to that podcast every week. Do you listen
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: to Pivot with Scott and Kara Galloway?
• 15:19
  Speaker 7: I only listened to it sometimes. I only listen to
• 15:21
  Speaker 7: it sometimes.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: I let's get my world updates from that.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: But that's so anyway, Nicole Kidman obviously broke up with
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Keith Urban or whatever happened in that relationship.
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: Which totally he is a divorce That's what I wrote.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Well, it seems like he relapsed, didn't it.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know obviously, so I can't say
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: that he really opts, but it seemed like he did.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: It seemed pretty drastic and like unexpected.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:42
  Speaker 7: I like Simon Baker for her. I think having an
• 15:45
  Speaker 7: actor who is not as famous as you as somebody
• 15:48
  Speaker 7: to like accompany you two things who you know looks
• 15:51
  Speaker 7: very nice is a good answer. I think, you know,
• 15:54
  Speaker 7: being half of a country couple was always a hat
• 15:58
  Speaker 7: she was gonna wear, not like life, she was going
• 16:00
  Speaker 7: to lead.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Oh interesting, I like that. Did you practice that on
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: your way?
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: I think?
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, but this is a little bit of a sidebar.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: But why are country musicians so many of them Australian?
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: That's a really good question.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: What is that the outback?
• 16:16
  Speaker 7: It is really interesting. But also last night at the
• 16:18
  Speaker 7: Oscars thinking about like how many The great thing about
• 16:21
  Speaker 7: award shows is it lets Australians and Irish people use
• 16:25
  Speaker 7: their real access the only time. But it's like the
• 16:28
  Speaker 7: sheer number of our A list actors who are Australian.
• 16:31
  Speaker 7: And it's like I get that because they're tall and strong,
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: because all of the sunshine and you know, rugby. But
• 16:37
  Speaker 7: I did like, and.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: I guess a lot are tall and strong.
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: Rich criminal genetics. Yes, but the country thing is so
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: weird culturally that it is the other places that like
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: country music really means something and connects. It's kind of strange.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: And it's like they're not being country stars over there
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: the countries.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: Here is their.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Country music in Australia as I kind of. I mean,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: that's what we have to get to the bottom up.
• 17:00
  Speaker 7: My concern is, like, you're not getting a direct Sydney
• 17:03
  Speaker 7: to Nashville. You know, that's a lot of having to connect.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right right, Well, I would like to know what
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: happened with that relationship.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: It's too bad.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to my friend's fiftieth birthday because Nicole
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: would be there. Where are you at with Blake Lively
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: and the Justin Baldoni scanmbal?
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: I want to know your stance.
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: Okay, it's fascinating you have a situation where everyone's terrible,
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: like there is something. The thing that makes me mad
• 17:29
  Speaker 7: about it, though, is it ends with us? Is like
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: one of the show real successes in film in the
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: last couple of years.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Like Yes, which has been ruined.
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: We need this town to not collapse and they fucking
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: destroyed it. But it really does. Every time I get
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: a little bit of information about it. I went to
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: a dinner party. Do you know John Marcos Serici? What
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: John Marco.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Serici, John Marcos Serisi.
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's a very funny comic.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: You would enjoy it, Okay, I don't think I know,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: At like a shabbat where the only thing that was
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: being broken down was the story, and I got so
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: much information. But like every time I something where I'm like,
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: maybe he's right, it's like, no, they are both terrible,
• 18:05
  Speaker 7: and it really sounds like she and Ryan have been
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: calculating and playing this very very hard.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I agree with you.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I something's wrong with the two of them, and they
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: are like it doesn't like especially, It's like it's like
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: when a damn breaks and you're like, finally, you just
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: don't have to look away. Yeah, there's nothing that can
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: be done, and you're like, we have too much information.
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: But also I think there's something that's very interesting in
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: la of like when somebody fights so hard for control
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: of a project that they end up wrecking the project.
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: And then this is the rare situation where the project
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: was successful, but they have ruined that success by making
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: it impossible to profit from it from anyway.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: And what do you think is the Taylor swift of
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: it all with regard to the status of their friendship.
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: Oh, I mean, like I don't know, Like I think
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: that she is maybe our greatest politician, and I think
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: that like she does a lot of presenting her her
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: friendships and relationships to us. But also I think she
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: goes away from controversy.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well she doesn't have to. She doesn't have time
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: for that shit either, you know. I mean when you
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: spend so much time working as hard as like you know,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: like she does on her image and like her like
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: what she's presenting, it's kind of like what you're saying,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: and like she's so thoughtful planning things like three and
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: five years out. She's like, I didn't have time for
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: this lawsuit, Like this is not on my calendar and
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to participate in it.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: But yet I feel like she's still been a really
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: good friend to Blake, Like those text messages that were yeah.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: They were all very public, very nice. Yes, good friend texts.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: But the thing, like the thing is with some of
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: these people who are like our industries, like Taylor Swift
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: is an industry, Like who are the women who were
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: in the Mean Girl Mom group? There was like, uh
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: was it?
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Oh that was Hillary Duff yes and Moore yes?
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: And it is just like Mandy Moore, one of Hollywood's
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: great survivors. But like that, she still makes the time
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: to be Incidentally, cruel to people around her. I think
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: reflects a balanced life, you know. And I just don't
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: imagine that Taylor has the time for like messy girl talk,
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: for you know, ganging up on people the way that
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: she used to, Uh did she used to?
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the whole you stole my dancers and the
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Katie Perry thing and all of that.
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: I mean, the fucking track that she wrote about Charlie
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: XCX on the most recent album I think is delicious
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: by the.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Way I do too. Yeah, that is actually a great time.
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: I mean, the thing is is like, but it's also
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: like it's pettiness that is going to in the long
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: term make her a great deal of money and like that,
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: Like that that woman is like put focusing her pettiness
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: towards her greater brand. I'm like, if only I could.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: You know, Like, when people have complaints about Taylor Swift,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: it's usually in the vein that she doesn't let out
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: of their artists breathe or have the success that she does.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: How she re releases things.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: And I don't quite understand all of this because I
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: don't really understand music. But how she like you know,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: has sixteen or seventeen different album covers and then it's like, okay,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: this is available for a limited release, right or somebody
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: will drop like a Billie Eilish will drop its song
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: and then she'll drop one right.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: After, so that Billie Eilish doesn't stay at number one.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Those are things that I've heard. Is that out there
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: in the Zeitgeis that that happens well?
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Definitely, the like publishing a ton of different covers, so
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: like the girls who love her have to go by
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: nine or you know, twenty five different covers.
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: It definitely as a thing a man has never been
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: criticized for trying to be killing you know, and it
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: is like I think that so much.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: That always kind of comes back to that.
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, like our resentment is somebody who's like doing it
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: too well, who is too in control. And there's a
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: way that like we demand this kind of like messiness
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: and vulnerability from women, like oh, there's a there's a
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: great line. There was this British art critic who said,
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: men act, women appear. The notion that like men get
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: to be agents, but women are always like Jackson, I
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: think is artists we so frequently It's like with Lena Dunham,
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: we couldn't understand that she was an artist who was
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: creating something and not just the mess that was Hannah Horvatz.
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: And I think that that is something that we have
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: a hard time understanding that, like, you are an artist,
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: not just a human being sharing the messiness of your life.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Fill me in on this Rebel Wilson story.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: So what you were saying about how a project can
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: be ruined by all of this like behind the scenes stuff.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: So Rebel Wilson got basically in a pissing match with
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: her producer of her new movie, which is called The
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: deb It's like an Australian movie.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: It's a musical. It's supposed to be this like light,
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: frothy fun thing.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: But they've been in a legal battle over a credit
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: that Rebel Wilson wanted on the movie and you know
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: she supposedly didn't earn it, and so they've been in
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: this legal battle for like two years.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: And now like she's using okay allegedly.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Because it's a little blake Lively.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: It is very much so the crisis pr firm that
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: supposedly she is using and her team are doing the
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: same sort of smear campaigns online and these like websites
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: saying that this producer who is a woman, was like
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: sexually harassing someone on the shoot and like asking her
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: to sleep with her. That person has gone on the
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: record and said that didn't happen.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: That is not real.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: But it's the same same PR firm that Justin Baldoni used.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: So it's very lively Jessein Baldoni.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: But from the other angle.
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: Yes, I mean the ways that our industry is getting
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: wrecked by some of these I think, particularly publicists being
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: too good at their jobs. I think you.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Opening up a crisis PR firm what so you can
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: just deal with fucking acrimony.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: And hate and legate it and stir it up.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: And fighting all the time.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, how many crisis PR firms
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: are there?
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: It does lead to the best possible moment in entertainment,
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: which is when somebody's a publicist fires them, like there
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: is just sort of like there's no clearer sign that like, oh,
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: they're just impossible to work with. But it's like, you're
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: rebel Wilson, let your movie come out, like you don't
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: need something to be happening.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: But also, we just saw this whole fucking thing for
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: the last two Yearslake Lively and justin BELLDONI so if
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: you learn anything, don't, yes, exactly, don't. Nobody wants this,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Like if this is true, you know, to actively go
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: after somebody to like ruin their reputation, even if that
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: person is a fucking idiot, you know what I mean,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: even if that person sucks.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: What is the point of doing that?
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: And like we don't know it was Rebel specifically pushing
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: for this, but there was audio leaked of her team
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: discussing these tactics to use against this person.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: Ooops.
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: I mean, like it's just rough and you really have
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: to question, like where are you putting your energy? You know,
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: like you're like you're Rebel Wilson, do like do something creative,
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: like don't waste your time just being in a fight.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: She got married a Disneyland. There's nothing creative happening Disneyland.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Oh god, I wish they would shut that place down.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I know how many people love it, but honestly I do.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Love it, but I would not get married there.
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: I do love it. I do think anyone who purchases
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: like that much of a packaged wedding right without doing
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: it hilariously is you know? I question?
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, what else is in the news.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Well, you were just talking about Wendy West.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, friend, So yeah, tell us about your friend. She
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: just published a book. What's it called.
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: It's called Adult Braces, and it's a really good book
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: and it's about her sort of like coming to like
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: a midlife existential crisis. Do you remember the show Shrill
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: on Hulu? It was based on her book and sort
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: of like the weirdness of having her life processed through
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: a TV show something you would know nothing about, and
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: then sort of like having like miscommunicated, no miscommunication, but
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: like bad communication with her husband, which she had agreed
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: to be like open but wanted to not know about
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: the stuff that he did there was open, and then
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: he got a girlfriend and she had like uncertainty and
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: a lot of like questioning of herself about that. So
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: she goes on a van trip down to the Florida
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: Keys and back to sort of like get her head straight.
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: And there's just been a lot of people and I
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: was there for her book launch, and a lot of
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: people have been expressing a lot of opinions about her
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: relationship without having read the book, and you know, it's
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: very frustrating for her.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: And like what kind of opinions are they expressing that
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: are hurtful to her.
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: Like they were saying that, like that's not a good
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: way of going into polyamory. And they were just sort
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: of saying like, oh, this is sad for you. You
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: don't actually want this, And she's like, no, I love this,
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: I love Roy and my girlfriend, like this is a
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: better situation that is more wholesome and healthy for all
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: of us. That's the point of the book. And people
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: are like, you can't have that opinion.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Interesting, Yes, I wish there were a way for people
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: to not care about the feedback they get when they
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: put out a piece of creative work.
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: It's really hard, though. And the thing is is like
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: you read the comments because you want the people who
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: say that you're great, but then you see the stuff
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: where people are critical. It is really hard. I wish
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: I could be one of those people. And also I
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: think all the people who say that they don't care
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: are lying.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: No, but there's a level of caring about it. Like
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I understand that you have to care. It's what you
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: put out. Like if I put a book out and
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: it didn't do well or if it you know, I
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: would care. Yeah, but I don't know that I would
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: get like, just like when you see ten comments in
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: a row telling you you're the greatest thing in the world,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: that gets old pretty quickly too, Like it's nice, but
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: you're not going.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: To bathe in that, Like that's not real. It's real.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: It's your impact, which is really important, like you know,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: the kind of I think. I always use the term
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: domino effect you have on people, you know, to leave
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: people like, you know, feeling good and like to actually
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: have an impact on them as important.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: But just like you don't sit there and.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Read these glowing reviews about yourself, Like I'm not going
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: to sit there and read bad things about myself on
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: and on and on and on and like it's not necessary.
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: Two things. The first one is just I've never really
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: gotten to say it to you. But the number of
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: times that I've been in some situation and somebody reflected
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: back to me that's seeing me and Ross on your show,
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: like help them figure it out coming out out of
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: the closet or who they were always is so great.
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: But my question for you is one of the things
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: that's interesting about the book is Lindy talking about sort
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: of like the specter of her first book shrill and
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: the way that it made people like expect things out
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: of her as a fat person and as a feminist.
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: And I just wonder for you after, like, what's the
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: first book called horizontal horizontal life? Was it hard for you?
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: Was it weird for you? Sort of like the persona?
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: But I guess it's it was a reflection of your
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: stand up persona, which is like you know you were
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: used to handling that. But was there anything with any
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: of your books? Has there been anything weird about the
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: way it made people see you?
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: No?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I mean sometimes people would be disappointed, Like when I
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: got like when I got very deep with like my book,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: what was it called Life Will Be the Death of Me?
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I got really deep about my brother and a lot
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: of people. And when I did a tour, I didn't
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: do a stand up tour. I did like a talking
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: about the book tour, And I think I was just
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: testing the water to see if I wanted to get
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: back at a stand up.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Because I had taken such a long break.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: But people were like definitely like disappointed that that wasn't
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: like the old Chelsea, like the funny, funny like ribolts
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: and like all that stuff.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Which is so funny that you say that, because we
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: still get emails all the time that were like that
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: book did so much for me, That book changed my life, Like,
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: thank you so much for sharing that. So it's like
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: it is totally different strokes for different folks.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, and and so and yeah, and as do I
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: and I love that.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I love that feedback.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: But I also like even when I put that out
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: and people and I got some of that feedback like wait,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: this isn't the Chelsea we know in love and I'm like, yeah,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: it's moving, like I'm moving.
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: Well, yeah. The thing is you have to evolve as
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: an artist. And we've all seen people who got kind
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: of trapped by just doing the thing that worked over
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: and over and over again. And I think if you
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: want to be somebody who is alive and has something
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: to say, you have to evolve what you're doing.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: And you have to be representative and real about what
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: you're going through as an artist. Not every artist has
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: to do this, like an actor doesn't necessarily have to
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: share all of that, but as a comedian or as
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: somebody who is playing myself, yeah I'm myself, you know
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: what I mean, it's it's insincere and disingenuous for me
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: to act one way and be going through it in
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: another way, like I'm not faking it. I am actually
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: on whatever you're lack of a better word, yeah, I'm getting
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: an upgrade a and for lack of a better word, journey,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Like you've.
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: Been pretty transparent with social media, pretty transparent with comedy always,
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: and I think that makes it easier to just sort
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: of like keep these things flowing along. And I think
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: for some people who are pretty famous understanding what level
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: of transparency you know, understanding I think also when you
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: have kids and it's like, you know, because like that
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: weird thing of like this is my life, but also
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: like I don't want people kidnapping them.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, the kids, I get. I don't
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: have to deal with that problem of another great decision
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: by me.
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: But there's a really good passage in the end of
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: Lindy's book that is basically like a book isn't the truth.
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: A book is sort of like your representation of where
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: you are, and also just sort of like the idea
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: of what I'm saying right now may not be true
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: of me always, but I'm not going to sacrifice the
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: happiness that I have now in service of being right
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: three years from now.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Right also, And it's important to know that if I
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: said something in that moment, I meant it, you know
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: what I mean. Like somebody was like, oh, I thought
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: you hate flowers. I'm like, well I did when they
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: were when I did, I did hate flowers at a
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: certain point in my life. I thought that was kind
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: of just like not pedantic, but just like ooh, I
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: don't need flowers.
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: I love cut flowers. I love getting flowers.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Roses. I don't want it roses. I want flowers. You
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Flowers. I'm interested in that. How's your dating life, by
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: the way.
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's decentralized as always. I was in New
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: York and I saw a guy who I see in
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: New York, And before that, I went to Quebec in February.
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: Never a great.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Choice must have been for some dick.
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: Yes, so that that kind of thing. Do you like that? Yes?
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: Like the number of people out there like I'm a
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: very specific person. I used to have joke about this.
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: I am the sexual equivalence of a left handed oyster
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: shucking glove. I'm not for everyone, but those who need
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: it will appreciate it, and so I did have a
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: long term relationship twenty sixteen to twenty nineteen. I've been
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: doing a solo show where I talk about the complexities
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: of it because I'd never really been in a relationship before.
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: But like, that was interesting. I think meeting somebody who
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: was a right person for me made me much clearer
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: about who isn't a right person for me? If that
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: makes sense.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Totally makes sense.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: And how did how was it being in a relationship
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: for three years after not having had a relationship.
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: It was weird and it was scary, and I didn't
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: really know how to deal with it, and I didn't
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: always make the best of choices.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Neither did he.
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: But I learned a lot from it. And I think
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: just if he, like he was smart in the right
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: ways and kind in the right ways in ways that
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: like helped me grow up and it was good. He's
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: still a very good friend of hers.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Oh that's good.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, And do you think you want another relationship? I
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: know because I kind of like what you're talking about,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And that's my vibe is
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: like bounce around lots of different people.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm not in that situation. Right now.
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: But I like that well, And I think for me
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: as somebody who like started out in a very gay way,
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: just sort of like hooking up and stuff, understanding what
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: emotions are appropriate and like really like letting myself treasure
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: someone and enjoy someone is like I think, learning many
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: different definitions of the word love is really really useful
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: and good for me. But also like my job and
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: my creative process and the things that I do go
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: in so many directions that like there is something nice
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: about just like having a nice time with someone and
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: going off and doing my own thing.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Right, Because I was just saying to Catherine in our
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: last episode, I was saying, like I when I work,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I want to be alone. I don't want anyone in
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: my house. And when I come back and I'm in
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: LA or wherever I am when i'm working, I need
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: to be on my own thing because.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: I don't like the check in texts. I'm guessing, yeah,
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: check in.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: We don't have to talk to your phone every day.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I mean communicate, but you know, I mean sometimes on
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: the phone fine if you're in the mood, but like,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: there's no I don't like to be restrictive or be
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: feel tethered.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: I need my space.
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, in reference to Lindy's book, a line
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: of mind that I have been repeating a lot is,
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: to me, sexual fidelity is the least interesting kind of fidelity, Like,
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: there are so many other things that I want to
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: know that I'm the first person that you tell about
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: a very good restaurant that you read too, Like I
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: don't care for you're fucking but like you know those
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: things that like really do matter that somebody share those
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: things with you, Like it is other things that matter
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: to me.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I like that. Are we going to take callers?
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, we sure are, And actually I have some questions
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: that align very much with what.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: We've been talking about.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to take a break and we're going
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: to be right back with Guy Brenham that we're back.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Well, our one drink question that we'll start off with is,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Dear Chelsea, my ex and I broke up a year
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: ag but we've maintained a friendship. Shortly after the breakup,
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: I found out he was hanging out with a certain guy,
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: the one I was told not to worry about. I
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: did some digging and found a tweet from that guy
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: posted while we had been together that said something like,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: why do I always fall for guys two hundred miles away?
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: My ex is an NYC. That guy lives in DC.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: We were in an open relationship, so physical stuff wasn't
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: the issue, but I realized he was probably emotionally cheating
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: on me while we were still together. Now, even as
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: just friends, every interaction brings that betrayal back up. I've
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: thought about having a conversation with him about it, but
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: I'm worried it might be too much. Do you think
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: talking about it would bring clarity or just reopen old wounds?
• 35:36
  Speaker 7: Gabe, I think you kind of need to talk to
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: him about it, like in most situations, Like you know,
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: I don't think you should reopen old wounds all the time.
• 35:46
  Speaker 7: I don't think you need to get into everything. But
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: it's like, if you want to be friends with this guy,
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: you're this is going to fester and you're going to
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: get annoyed and it's going to turn into something bad
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: or inappropriate. And I think, like we're mature, sophisticated gay
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: guys who able to have an open relationship, and I
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: think being able to have a lunch where it's like, well,
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: tell me what was going on just so I can know,
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: will let you decide how much you want to be
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: friends with these guys and like hopefully open you up
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: so that you can like and appreciate them on their
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: own terms and maybe have a three way eventually love.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a nice spin. But the other conversely, like,
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: what are the chances this guy's going to be honest
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: about what he was doing when they were in a relationship,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: knowing that's just going to stir up shit, you know
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like you're gonna ask my ex boyfriend
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: asked me if I was cheating on him, and I
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: was like, what's the advantage of being you know what
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'd be like, that's just going to hurt him.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: I'm going to keep that to myself.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: And you're probably gonna get lied to anyway, I mean,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: not one hundred percent.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know these people well, I.
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: Mean, and that is the dangerous possibility is if this
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: person lies to you, then you like have to resent them,
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: you know, But.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Also you may never know that they're lying, Like you
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: may not really know, maybe they were just flirting or
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: who knows. My take on all of this shit, as
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: I've gotten older has changed and evolved, which is it
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: doesn't fucking matter, not with.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: The person anymore. Whatever happened while you were with them
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: doesn't fucking matter. You know what I mean.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: You were dating, you were in an open relationship, all
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: the things are there. Now you're gonna be upset that
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: he was an emotional cheater instead of a physical cheater.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Like the relationship's over, move on.
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: Well, and there's also something that we said for like
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: give it some space, give it some space, go. And
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: I think it's really hard after the end of a
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: relationship to like to you want to be focused on that,
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: but like give it some space and then go back
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: and then you can be friends on whatever terms those
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: are two years from now.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's also good idea to give it to me.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Did he say he wants to remain friends with him?
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the ad.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: But I think that we always want to like control
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: the situation, and the situation's over. You didn't control it,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: it's over, And like the idea of controlling the outcome
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: of something is very like it's a false motivation. You're
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: never going to be able to control. Plus it already
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: fucking happened. So I would say, get you know all.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Right, you have two pieces of advice.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: You know what you go ye, let us know what
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: you go with and how that goes? All right?
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Well, our first color today, Leah, She says, Dear Chelsea,
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: I'm an actress and comedian in LA and I would
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: love your advice on my current situation. After fifteen years
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: of building an online audience of forty K followers, my
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Instagram at leahk an hour was disabled after I made
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: an anti Trump joke that went viral and a massive
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Trumpers reported it. I now have to start a new
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: account at leak an hour XO from zero. I'm heartbroken
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: and angry. So long freedom of speech. I guess As
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: an up and coming actress and comedian, my social media
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: is obviously vital for promoting shows and booking gigs. As
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: you know, I feel like everything I've built has crashed
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: and burned at my feet and my.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: Career is over. What do I do?
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Have you ever experienced a major loss, professional or personal
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: that ended up being a blessing. I'd really appreciate your
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: insight and encouragement.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Leah.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, I can't believe that they could do that. Hi, Leah,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Look we have Guy Brandham here today. He's another comedian.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Hi guy, Hi Chelsea, Hi, how are you.
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: I'm okay, I'm happy to be here.
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: I wish it was in different circumstances, but I'm really
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: looking forward to your advice.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Well, first of.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: All, everything that every disaster that happens or kind of like,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you want of how you're framing this,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: but it's definitely I don't understand how they are able
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: to take.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Accounts down like that. What do they? I don't understand
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: how that works.
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't either. It's pretty crazy.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: No, but apparently this happens to a lot of people
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: for all kinds of different reasons and sometimes no reason
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: at all.
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: And I'm actually speculating they never.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Told me what guideline, so they just cancel your ee.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just woke up one day and my account
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: was gone. They didn't specify what guideline I broke or
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: what post it was. But I'm speculating because I had
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: a very viral anti Trump post, so I'm like, maybe
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: that was it, and I think a lot of people
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: reported it and then it just was down and I
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: feel I'm like, yeah, I'm mad at myself.
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: I feel like I ruined everything. Chelsea.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: I'm actually on a show with you tomorrow, so I'm
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: very excited to meet you in what show at the
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: Ice House?
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'll see you at the ice House. That's great,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I am performing there. I forgot I'm doing.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Great.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: But everything that doesn't work out, there's always some blessing.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: You may not find out about it in the next
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: week or two weeks or six months, but you'll find
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: out about it at some reason.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: You'll have had.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Some stalker that was going to try and come over
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: to your house and stalk you or kill you, or
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: something terrible that you avoided or averted by not having.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Your social media account. So let's just assume that's true.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, not the worst case scenario true, but just some
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: scenario within that. Let's assume that something like that is true,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: and this was a blessing in disguise. Rebuilding something is
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: not nearly as difficult as you think it is. It
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: feels like that in the moment, forty thousand followers, I
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: know is a lot of people, But you can rebuild
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: that in a second.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: You don't need like. The thing that I'm more concerned
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: about is.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Like you're freedom of speech and to be able to
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: talk about this, like you know, you may had something
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: go viral where you were anti Trump. You shouldn't stop
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: talking about how much of an asshole Trump is. So
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: I'm more concerned about now than muzzling you. So where
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: do you stand on that front?
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it is. I do feel scared now to speak up.
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: And that's why I wanted to ask you because you're
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: very vocal about politics and I admire you both for that.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: But yeah, and now I'm scared.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Well, then that worked, do you know what I mean?
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Like it worked. That's what they wanted you to to be.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: They want you to be scared.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: You are scared, and you're probably going to edit your
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: behavior in the future. So first and foremost, I would
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: say not to do that. I think there's probably certain
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: people that they target right that they know that they
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: could get away with it because you have smaller followings
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: or I mean even the forty thousand peoples a lot
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: of people. But I really don't think it's like it's
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: not as big of a mountain to climb as you
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: think it is. You know, you can like increase your
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: social media presence in weeks, you know what I mean?
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Like it's going to happen. You just have to start again.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: And actually maybe it shifted and not necessarily away from
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: being anti Trump. Wait until you've amassed more followers than
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: forty thousand before you start talking out against him, maybe
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: because they're less likely to erase that. But I think
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: you should look at it as an opportunit unity, like
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: now you have an opportunity to create something brand new,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: instead of looking at it as a loss. When we
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: look at everything that we don't get as a loss,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: it kind of alters your state of mind and the
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: framework within which you look at focus in something.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: And I think really successful people have.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: An ability to like, oh, you almost not that you're
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: welcoming this, because it's not something that you would welcome.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: But it's almost like, oh, what a fun challenge.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: I get to rebuild my forty thousand people, and you
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: guess what you're gonna double that.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: You're going to be way more successful.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: But just figure out how you want to change that
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: in the right way, you know what I mean, Make
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: some slight alteration, not towards being political, but make an
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: alteration about like how you see your future as a performer, right,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Like if you're talented then there's not much that's going
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: to get in your way.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: And I also think that like talking about your story,
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: like I got banned from Instagram for saying something about Trump,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Like talking about that on TikTok, I think would go viral.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Also, yeah, tell your story, Yeah you can.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: I mean that could be your opening video, Like Okay,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I was banned, so I'm rebuilding my social media and
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: then talk about other things so it's not totally centered
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: on around Trump, you know, but that story is worthwhile
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: because I'm sure there's millions of other people that are
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: experiencing the same stuff. Yeah, you know, and like maybe
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: there's something you good you can do together to make
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: sure that they're not allowed to do that to people.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: You can't just take someone's count down. I don't understand
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: how that happens. So but I really just don't want
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: you to focus on the loss and focus on like
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: the actual creative process of starting anew You know, it's
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: not the end of the world.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I promise you, it's not the end of the world.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: You can act like you've never been on social media
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: before and be like how do I how do I
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: work this thing? You could have a whole angle about it, guy,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: what do you think.
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: I think comedians can lose too much energy when you
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: have bumps and bad things happen. I think that comedians
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: have so much opportunity with social media to control and
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: be able to like communicate with people directly, but also
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: we forget how much it is being filtered through these
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: corporations that like really have infinite power to decide. You know,
• 44:01
  Speaker 7: it's weird when you realize all of the speech restrictions
• 44:04
  Speaker 7: that we accept on TikTok. You know that like we
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: just sort of take them, and so you have to
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: take those two things hand in hand. But I think
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: what Chelsea is saying is is right. It will be
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: a whole lot easier to get another forty thousand back.
• 44:18
  Speaker 7: And I think one of the important things is, like,
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: as comedians, the most important thing that we have is
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: inside of you, skills that you have built, what you
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: have learned on this path to forty thousands. They can't
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: take that away from you.
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: Thank you so much.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: I really it's very helpful to hear all of that
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: from both of you, So thank you.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So just keep on trucking, okay, because you know
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: you're going to have to like survive much more than
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: this in the world of entertainment and in the world
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: of rejection or what you perceive to be failures.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: But I really think the.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: True sign of like a real powerful person is never
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: to look at failure as failure. It's like, great, I'm
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: glad I got that out of the way. Now on
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: one step closer to my next success.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: Thank you all right, Lea, will you keep us posted
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: on what happens.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: And I'll see you at the ice house.
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: I'll see you tomorrow.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: I'll see you tomorrow.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Okay, thankfully, Bye bye bye. So our next question comes
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: from Stephen. Stephen says Chelsea, I love you, love the pod.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: You're the best. Would love some advice. I'm a forty eight.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Year old gay dude who's never been in a relationship.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: I grew up in New England and being out in
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: the nineties wasn't a thing yet. It was too unsafe
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: to date the boys, and I had no interest in
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: dating the girls in college. It just never seemed to happen.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: I'm the happy, fat friend that everyone wants to be
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: friends with but not date. I look at someone like
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: Ross Matthews, who is dating Salvador for years when he
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: was heavier. He's now in a loving marriage with Wellington.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: I see fat guys out there all the time who
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: have boyfriends. How am I so unlucky that it doesn't
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: happen to me? Everyone always says it will happen when
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: you least expect it. Well, I've been waiting for over
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: twenty five years now and it hasn't happened.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Yet because you're expecting it.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: I see people on my six hundred pound life and
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: they're all in relationships, and I get so mad because
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: they're fat and they found someone. So if wade is
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: not an issue for them to find someone, what's so
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: wrong with me that I can't I firmly believe that
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: I won't find a man to day until i'm thin,
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: but that doesn't seem to be true for others. As
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: I'm knocking on the door of fifty, I just want
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: it to happen at least once in my life. I
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: want to know what it's like to be loved by
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: another person, not just my family and amazing friends. Never
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: having experienced romance before just drives me into a depth
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: of pain that is real and can last for days.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: Feeling like damaged goods that no one wants.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: There are chubby chasers out there who find me attractive,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: but being fond attractive for the one thing that you
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: hate about yourself as a total mind fuck? How do
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: I break the fucking cycle and put myself out there more?
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Stephen, how do you feel about chubby chasers? I feel
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: like is that a bad thing? I mean like it
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: can feel weird to be a fetish. It can feel
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: strange when that's the thing that somebody is primarily engaging with.
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 46:43
  Speaker 7: Also it can be hot if it's the right person,
• 46:45
  Speaker 7: But it is that thing of does this person like
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: me or are? And also sometimes there is like a
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: power dynamic to it that is like creepy and not
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: the most fun of being like I'm a regular gang
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: eye and you're a sad, fat guy, but I will
• 47:02
  Speaker 7: still be nice to you. And I was like, nobody
• 47:05
  Speaker 7: needs that. I understand far too well where Stephen is
• 47:09
  Speaker 7: and where he's coming from, and I think part of
• 47:12
  Speaker 7: it is just remembering how far we've come in our lifetimes.
• 47:15
  Speaker 7: That like, when guys like him and I were in
• 47:18
  Speaker 7: high school, there was no expectation that any of these
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: things would be possible, and you weren't treating them as
• 47:23
  Speaker 7: a reality, and I think, you know, and the guys
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: that were dating have a different understanding of what relationships
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: are and what they're looking for, and so I think
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: accepting that is really important, but also putting yourself in
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: the spaces where there are more people who will like you.
• 47:40
  Speaker 7: Going to bare Week at Provincetown if you live in
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: New England, you know, it's like, go there, and there
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: are way I think that immersion is a good thing.
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: Some of these things that may feel uncomfortable or weird,
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: like a Chevy chaser or like bear activities can feel weird,
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: but then once you're there, like you just you get
• 48:01
  Speaker 7: in the water and you realize it's.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Fine, yeah, and you can and then you're among more
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: of your people.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: And also there's like all these you know, this is
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: true for single people and whatever your sexual preference is
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: or identity is, but like you can go online and
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: look for gay activities in your city and look for
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: people who are also looking for gay activities in your
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: city without it being you know.
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: But I think there's also a way that the way
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: we have talked to fat people about fatness for such
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: a long time is there will be a future time
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: when you get to lead your life and be happy,
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: and like, yes, releasing that and just sort of saying,
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: like what needs to happen needs to happen with this
• 48:35
  Speaker 7: me right here. And like I also think just doing
• 48:38
  Speaker 7: things to be embodied. Like in Lindy's books, she talks
• 48:42
  Speaker 7: about getting a tattoo and accepting that like this, like
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: I have ownership over my body, and I think like
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: letting yourself own and enjoy your own body is a
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: great way to like start accepting it. But also, and
• 48:55
  Speaker 7: I should be lecturing two women about this, but like
• 48:58
  Speaker 7: there's also a way that like, we live in a
• 49:00
  Speaker 7: society that has so many opinions about your body that
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: being able to divorce yourself from what society tells you
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: is kind of impossible.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do like what you say about you know, Lindy.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: I think it's also helpful Stephen to start observing media
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: from like fat activists and storytellers and creatives, you know,
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: listen to the Maintenance Phase podcast and like put yourself
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: in spaces where like your body is being talked about
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: in a positive way and it can really help undo
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: some of the the trauma error.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: But I do agree with you. I do think it's like,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can relate to that so much. When
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I was a kid and like, you know, dealing with
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: my weight or whatever. I was never fat, but I
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: thought I was, you know, like body dysmorphia, and I
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: was always like, oh, when I'm thin, when I'm thin,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: when i'm thin, that's when things.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Will start to really kick off, you know what I mean.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: So I can relate to the idea that like, one
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: day in the future you're gonna do but it is
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: I think it is really like when you don't accept yourself,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: it's hard to get another person to accept you, Like
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: you have to start with self love. And as corny
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: as that may sound, seems to be the truth for
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: so many people.
• 50:01
  Speaker 7: Well and also except to acknowledge the fact that, like
• 50:05
  Speaker 7: other people do have messed up heads about these things.
• 50:08
  Speaker 7: And it's not about your failure. It's about a world
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: that isn't great, and I think going into it with
• 50:14
  Speaker 7: like understanding that that's part of the lay of the
• 50:17
  Speaker 7: land is good. We can't fix it all in our
• 50:20
  Speaker 7: own heads, you know.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Okay, Steven, put yourself out there and check
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: in with us, okay, and look.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Up for some gay activities in the area that you live, Like,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: what are gay guys doing besides hunting each other on grinder?
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Actually, like stuff that you can do outside stuff or
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: stuff that you can like, you know, events that.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: You can go to, ballroom dancing.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know, whatever you're interested in, like hiking or Look.
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: Ten years ago, the gay dodgeball really was the meat
• 50:47
  Speaker 7: Marco West Hollywood. Now it's all about pickleball. It's all
• 50:50
  Speaker 7: about pickleball.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: All right. I saw this.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: I saw this Instagram post the other night, going how
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: much longer are we going to let white people dominate pickleball?
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Get in there and fucking show them how it's done.
• 51:02
  Speaker 7: Somebody's doing the Winter Olympics. I forget who was like,
• 51:05
  Speaker 7: once black people enter speed skate age, it's over free.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, our last caller today is Amber, She says
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: high friends. So, I'm in my early thirties and I'm
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: ready to take the next step in my relationship with
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: my beautiful girlfriend. I'm finally at a point in my
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: life where I think it would be good to take
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: the next steps and propose within the next year or two.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: I'm afraid because her family, specifically her parents, are not
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: supportive and She's a super family oriented person. She's someone
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: that would ask me if I got her parents' approval
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: before asking her. I feel so I'm at a crossroads here.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: I'm not traditional by any means, and she definitely is traditional.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: Any advice for how to move forward that way?
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: With love? Amber?
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Hi?
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: Amber?
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Our special guest is Guy Brandham today. Hello, Hi, Well,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: so you have a relationship and a woman that you
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: love and that you want to propose to. That's exciting,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: and have you discussed getting married with her?
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: And she's very excited about it.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, So do you think that she's expecting you to
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: go to her parents and ask for a permission?
• 52:10
  Speaker 9: I think that would be her idea.
• 52:12
  Speaker 7: How long have you guys been together?
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Almost three years?
• 52:16
  Speaker 7: Okay, I don't know.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: I think in all realms, asking the parents like permission
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: or approval feels so dated.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: I feel like that is just it's just not the
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: way the world should be working. Like if they're not
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: supportive of the relationship at best, you can get like
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: a tepid okay, and that's just like almost put sustain
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: on the like the whole process of proposing.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: Now ever, what is your relationship like with her parents.
• 52:43
  Speaker 9: Have you met them, I've met them. They're cordial to me,
• 52:49
  Speaker 9: they let me in their house, but it's not they
• 52:57
  Speaker 9: definitely don't accept us.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Like it's not warm and invite and like they should
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: be with their daughter's partner.
• 53:03
  Speaker 9: No, I think they're in denial as well.
• 53:05
  Speaker 7: So that happens with parents. One of the things I'm
• 53:08
  Speaker 7: obsessed with is that we are the first generation of
• 53:10
  Speaker 7: queer people who get to have real legal marriages, and
• 53:13
  Speaker 7: that we get to build our own traditions along the way,
• 53:17
  Speaker 7: and so much of the time we can feel like
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: bound or constrained by the old school ways. And so
• 53:24
  Speaker 7: I would say, if you don't feel comfortable going and
• 53:27
  Speaker 7: asking her parents' permission, go to her best friend, go
• 53:30
  Speaker 7: to her sister, go to someone else who is like
• 53:34
  Speaker 7: a person who respects her and your relationship. So when
• 53:38
  Speaker 7: she does say did you ask my parents' permission, you
• 53:40
  Speaker 7: can be like, I didn't know how that will go.
• 53:42
  Speaker 7: So that's why I talked to Brian. You know, I
• 53:46
  Speaker 7: like that.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: I think that's great.
• 53:47
  Speaker 9: I think I can go the sister out.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: That would be good.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great idea. Guy, that's really really good.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: You're right, you get to that's kind of I'm glad
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: you said that that this is the first generation of
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: people who get to get married as gay people, and
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: you should set some new traditions because that is antiquated
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: asking a parent for permission. It's like, I wouldn't give
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: a shit what my parents said anyway.
• 54:10
  Speaker 7: Like I have been to a gay wedding where like
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: parents sat there annoyed the entire time or just weirded
• 54:17
  Speaker 7: out by it. But I still think it's important. I
• 54:20
  Speaker 7: think one of the things that a wedding is about
• 54:24
  Speaker 7: is showing your parents that you're a real adult who
• 54:26
  Speaker 7: gets to make real decisions on your own. So, you know,
• 54:30
  Speaker 7: I think invite them and let them be whatever kind
• 54:33
  Speaker 7: of pills they want to be, but also maybe don't
• 54:36
  Speaker 7: put them in the position of being able to gate
• 54:39
  Speaker 7: keep this relationship.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder what you also think the two of
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: you about. After you've proposed and it's a yes, and
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: everyone's excited, writing them a letter telling them how much
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: you love their daughter, You're going to take care of her,
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: You're so excited for this new step in your life.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: How do you feel about that and engaging them in
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: that way? But it's sort of like you're giving it
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: to them and they can absorb.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: I just kind of feel like, fuck you if parents
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: are like that, do you know what I mean? Like,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: it's just not helpful. You're supposed to love your child
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: no matter what. How can you judge them based on
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: who they're attracted to.
• 55:11
  Speaker 7: But I also think that there's the way that like,
• 55:13
  Speaker 7: when you have somebody, like for so many queer people,
• 55:15
  Speaker 7: being able to hold these things in the same space
• 55:18
  Speaker 7: is really really hard. And when you have somebody who
• 55:21
  Speaker 7: is really close to their family but has never been
• 55:24
  Speaker 7: sort of like aggressive about saying like you need to
• 55:27
  Speaker 7: create this space for me, it can be really hard.
• 55:29
  Speaker 7: And you don't want that to be something that impairs
• 55:31
  Speaker 7: your marriage, where your partner has to feel like she
• 55:35
  Speaker 7: is to give something up to be in this relationship.
• 55:39
  Speaker 7: And so I do think like sending a letter and
• 55:43
  Speaker 7: keeping a door open isn't a terrible idea. But you know,
• 55:47
  Speaker 7: there is also a deep part of me that understands
• 55:49
  Speaker 7: and respects Chelsea's. If you don't like this, go fuck
• 55:52
  Speaker 7: yourself perspective.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: It is nice to send a letter and say like
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: it within that letter to be like hey, listen, letting
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: them know what's happening, I ask, And also and just
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: saying I didn't come to you in a traditional way
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: because this isn't a traditional relationship and it's been you know,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: clear that you guys.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: You know, I think you should maybe.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Like not like call them out, but like I didn't
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: feel comfortable coming to you, you know, Like.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: I hope that can change in the future.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I hope we can create a relationship or a foster
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: as some sort of relationship, Like if you wanted to
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: say that, I can understand wanting to say that. I
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: don't think it's fucking necessary, but I can understand if
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: you want to really respect her relationship with her family.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: But I think asking the sister is a real great
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Like I think that's just a great suggestion.
• 56:38
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I like, I like that suggestion. I don't think
• 56:41
  Speaker 9: either of our parents would attend, so I think the
• 56:45
  Speaker 9: letter would, if anything, would be just I don't know,
• 56:50
  Speaker 9: I don't know what that would look like. But I
• 56:52
  Speaker 9: think I want to respect that she is so close
• 56:56
  Speaker 9: to her family. But yeah, at the same time, I'm
• 56:59
  Speaker 9: not looking being for their approval of family erect Yeah,
• 57:02
  Speaker 9: for sure.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Well, I think you cover all your bases with asking
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: her sister.
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's true.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: All right, Amber, will you send us pictures of the
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: engagement when it happens.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: I will, all right. Congratulations, Yeah, it's really exciting. That's Amber.
• 57:18
  Speaker 9: Thank you, and thank you so much again.
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: I just want to remind you of the call that
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: we got like a couple of weeks ago, when they
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: were like, we have a guy at work that clears
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: his throat incessantly. I am that man, now, I mean
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: I've always been that man. All I do is go
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: like this, and I haven't even smoked weed.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: I smoked smoking with Yaminika on Saturday, but what's today Tuesday?
• 57:46
  Speaker 7: I like, I was doing a bunch of colleges and
• 57:49
  Speaker 7: so I was listening obsessively to podcasts of college classes
• 57:55
  Speaker 7: and there was this man, like an amazing Greek historian
• 57:58
  Speaker 7: and it was the best class and he literally could
• 58:02
  Speaker 7: not go more than like he was like clearing his
• 58:04
  Speaker 7: throat every third syllable, and it was so annoyed. It's
• 58:09
  Speaker 7: so hard, I know, I know, I.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Know, we literally got to call him to like someone
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: in our cubicle, and like my cubicle next to me
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: just sits there and goes, eh, She's like, we're so
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: fucking annoyed.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you need to confront him. He has acid reflex.
• 58:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Anyway, guy, it was a pleasure having you here.
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: It's good to be because it was so lovely to
• 58:27
  Speaker 7: get to meet your cap and it's always a delight
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: to get to see you.
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Me likewise, guy likewise. Cheers, cheers everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Goodbye.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, guys, I am officially on my High and Mighty tour.
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  Speaker 1: March twentieth is Denver, Colorado. March twenty seventh, Portland, Maine.
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  Speaker 1: March twenty eighth, Providence, Rhode Island. March twenty ninth, Springfield, Massachusetts.
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  Speaker 1: April tenth is Chicago. I'll be at the Chicago Theater
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  Speaker 1: in April eleventh. Indianapolis, Indiana. April twelfth Louisville, can April
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  Speaker 1: sixteenth is Albuquerque, New Mexico. April seventeenth is Mesa, Arizona.
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  Speaker 1: April twenty third is Kansas City, Missouri. April twenty fourth
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  Speaker 1: is Saint Louis, Missouri. April twenty fifth is Minneapolis, Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: April thirtieth Nashville, Tennessee. May first is Charlotte, North Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: May second is Durham, North Carolina. May sixth I'm doing
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  Speaker 1: Netflix as a Joke Festival.
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  Speaker 2: I will be in Los.
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  Speaker 1: Angeles May fifteenth, Saratoga, California, May sixteenth, Monterey, California. May seventeenth, Modesto, California,
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  Speaker 1: and then June.
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  Speaker 2: Fourth Portchester, New York.
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  Speaker 1: June fifth is Boston, mass And June twelfth is Portland, Oregon.
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  Speaker 2: And then Seattle is June thirteenth.
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing a second show at the Paramount Theater in
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  Speaker 1: Denver on Saturday, December fifth, So suck on that.
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