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Trump overturns ICE order that suspended most traffic stops · INSIGHT TODAY

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  Speaker 1: One day after the Department of Homeland Security ordered a
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  Speaker 1: temporary halt to traffic stops as part of ICE deportation actions,
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  Speaker 1: President Trump reversed that policy decision. Cebu's News Homeland Security
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  Speaker 1: correspondent Cole Skanga joins me now with the details. How
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  Speaker 1: did this go down?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you blink and you missed something in this administration,
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  Speaker 2: major and it has been a fast moving forty eight hours. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: ICE's Enforcement and Removal Operations Division had issued memos to
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  Speaker 2: all of the field offices saying that in most cases,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to put a temporary pause on vehicle stops
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  Speaker 2: while officers were to receive additional training. They didn't really
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  Speaker 2: specify what that training was going to look like, but
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  Speaker 2: it applied only to what's called ro enforcement and removal operations,
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  Speaker 2: so just civil immigration arrests. And there were carve outs
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  Speaker 2: for exceptions like serious criminal offenders cases involving partner agencies,
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  Speaker 2: so partnership with local law enforcement, going after individuals who
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  Speaker 2: add judicial warrants out on their arrest.
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  Speaker 1: And to that point, Nicole at the White House yesterday afternoon,
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  Speaker 1: the White House Immigration.
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  Speaker 2: Tom home and came out.
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  Speaker 1: This and defended it.
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  Speaker 2: Yes and said that this is just a temporary pause
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  Speaker 2: in light of everything that we have seen in Houston
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  Speaker 2: and in Maine. We woke up, as we do many
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  Speaker 2: days during this administration, to a truth social post by
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  Speaker 2: President Trump publicly pushing back saying there's been no slow
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  Speaker 2: down and enforcement of his immigration policies. And we heard
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  Speaker 2: more from DHS officials just behind the scenes sort of
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  Speaker 2: walking back this policy now saying traffic stops were never
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  Speaker 2: off the table, right. But I think there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of confusion now. Speaking with law enforcement officers, and I
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  Speaker 2: honestly feel for some of them that are stuck in
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  Speaker 2: the middle of this whiplash. Will there be more training
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  Speaker 2: at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center FLETSI, Will there
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  Speaker 2: be operational guidance now when do you know to pull
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  Speaker 2: someone over or not? Speaking also with officials, there are
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  Speaker 2: some reasons why you would want to do this for
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  Speaker 2: officer safety, reducing not only the risk of another fatal
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  Speaker 2: use of force incident, but also just standardizing some of
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  Speaker 2: these vehicle stop tactics, and by the way, incorporating new
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  Speaker 2: operational guidance on body cameras, because we've also heard about
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  Speaker 2: that from this administration, and as.
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  Speaker 1: I understand that there's some new news on that front.
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  Speaker 2: We are learning and I am told that this is
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  Speaker 2: still in effect. So despite the whiplash on the policy
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  Speaker 2: regarding vehicle stops, this is still happening where DHS has
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  Speaker 2: said every arrest team nationwide that is carrying out immigration
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  Speaker 2: enforcement will have at least one officer who is wearing
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  Speaker 2: a body worn camera. There's been a lot to do
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  Speaker 2: about body worn cameras, so this is not every officer
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  Speaker 2: wearing body worn cameras, but this is one better team. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and look, we don't know exactly how this requirement is
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  Speaker 2: going to be enforced, but we know that it has
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  Speaker 2: been a long time coming for DHS to equip its
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  Speaker 2: personnel with bodyworn care.
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  Speaker 1: Nicole, please stay here, and I invite you to jump
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  Speaker 1: into this conversation if you are so motivated. I'm joined
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  Speaker 1: now by Mark Morgan, who served as acting ICE Director
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  Speaker 1: during the first Trump administration. I'm very glad to have
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  Speaker 1: you with us because I know you have experience in
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  Speaker 1: this space. Tell my audience, what is a core tactical
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  Speaker 1: utility a vehicle stops in removal operations?
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  Speaker 3: Well, if that varies, but what I will say nature
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  Speaker 3: is that it is a essential law enforcement tool and
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  Speaker 3: a great law enforcement toolbox. And I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: make sure everybody understands this that every law enforcement tool
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  Speaker 3: action there's always a level of inherent risk. That's just
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  Speaker 3: the nature of the job, the nature of the profession.
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  Speaker 3: But I can tell you there are some times where
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  Speaker 3: the conducutive vehicle stop is the least risky alternative to
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  Speaker 3: other law enforcement tools that are there. So for anyone
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  Speaker 3: at any level to actually remove, suspend, whatever adjective that
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  Speaker 3: you want to use, and it's entirety a law enforcement
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  Speaker 3: tool at the end of the day that literally just
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  Speaker 3: hands victories to the cartel, to the criminal individuals as
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  Speaker 3: well as it demoralizes. I think your their guests summarize
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  Speaker 3: that very well. It's confusing. It demoralizes the workforce as
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  Speaker 3: if the leaders do not have trust in them.
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  Speaker 1: How about the training level on this? Is there enough
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  Speaker 1: and has there been enough training of these vehicle stops?
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  Speaker 1: Because ICE has enlarged, there's lots of people coming in.
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  Speaker 1: What's the level of training and is that something that
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  Speaker 1: needs more focus.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So one of my last tours in the federal
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  Speaker 3: law Enforcement Arena was I served as the FBI's assister
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  Speaker 3: director for the Training Division. We were sponsored for training
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  Speaker 3: all new agents and providing ongoing training to every special
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  Speaker 3: agent in the FBI. So training is extremely important. So
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  Speaker 3: answer part of your question, there's never enough training. We
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  Speaker 3: should always be taking a look at doing more training.
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  Speaker 3: But unfortunately, across the board all agencies when budget cuts
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  Speaker 3: come major, what do you think the first thing of
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  Speaker 3: most agencies cut is. So to answer your question, do
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  Speaker 3: we need more training? Yes, absolutely need more ongoing training. However,
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  Speaker 3: your guests also mentioned Fletzi. Fletzy is an incredible training
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  Speaker 3: division that's there that trains multiple federal agencies here, and
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  Speaker 3: I can guarantee you that vehicle stops because it is
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  Speaker 3: one of those essential law enforcement tools. There is exhausted
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  Speaker 3: training that every single officer and the agent goes through
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  Speaker 3: when they're going through their Fletcy training. But again that
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  Speaker 3: doesn't mean the train should stop after the academy. It
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  Speaker 3: should be ongoing major.
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  Speaker 2: If I can follow up that, I'm curious Mark, what
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  Speaker 2: your sense is. There's reporting out of Maine that indicates
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  Speaker 2: that the officer there had formerly worked for the VA
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  Speaker 2: and then received some training by Fletzy and transitioned into ice.
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  Speaker 2: Do you believe for former law enforcement officials who have
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  Speaker 2: spent their career at a non immigration enforcement agency, there
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  Speaker 2: needs to be more than just an online course that
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  Speaker 2: Fletzi gives out before they are on the ground working
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  Speaker 2: with RO teams.
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  Speaker 3: So look, I don't know if all they receive is
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  Speaker 3: online course, but I can tell you if if the
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  Speaker 3: training is they're only receiving an online course with respective
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  Speaker 3: vehicle stops, of course, that's wolfully inadequate.
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  Speaker 2: There has to.
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  Speaker 3: Be what we call practical application, hands on But I
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  Speaker 3: can tell you my understanding, my experience, my first hand
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  Speaker 3: observation is if you are within the eyes and you've
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  Speaker 3: attended the Fletsy training when it comes to vehicle stops,
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  Speaker 3: you have received that practical, real world training well beyond
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  Speaker 3: just an online course. But if you're saying that's all
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  Speaker 3: it was offered to this individual, then that absolutetion weigs
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  Speaker 3: red flags mark.
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  Speaker 1: Before I let you go, I want to put this
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  Speaker 1: on the table. Nine individuals have been killed in America
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  Speaker 1: as part of RO operations in the second Trump term
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  Speaker 1: at a threshold level. Does that not suggest that something
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  Speaker 1: needs to be reevaluated?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it does, But measor what I tell you. I
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  Speaker 3: think what needs to be reevaluated is a rhetoric by
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  Speaker 3: the Democratic Party and many activists which are out there
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  Speaker 3: day in and day out encouraging and dictating and giving
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  Speaker 3: individuals the tools to actually go against ICE, to actually
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  Speaker 3: interfere with the law enforcement operations. Here. Look, although we
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  Speaker 3: need to wait for every investigation to be completed, that's fair,
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  Speaker 3: and it should be an exhaustive, intense investigation into every
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  Speaker 3: single one of these shootings. But let me make sure
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  Speaker 3: everybody understands what is consistent, what we know for sure,
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  Speaker 3: has every single one of these started with the individual
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  Speaker 3: that was encountered by law enforcement. They did not comply,
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  Speaker 3: So we need to be talking about that more and more.
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  Speaker 3: And then one thing that I'll say also is let's
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  Speaker 3: look at some other agencies. In a five year period
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  Speaker 3: from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty two, four other federal
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  Speaker 3: agencies were involved in two hundred and sixteen shootings, over
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  Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty of them were fatal. But yet
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  Speaker 3: the only organization we're talking about is ICE right
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  Speaker 1: Now, Mark Morgan, I appreciate the time, Thank you very much,