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Earning Your Right Of Passage: Touring Australia And Beyond With NERGAL From BEHEMOTH · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: This is Gal. I play guitars and vocals in a
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  Speaker 1: band called Bahemouth. I have also another band, but I
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  Speaker 1: think that's not that's none of your interest. Interested in
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  Speaker 1: heavy fucking music. And Behemoth is heavy and it's extreme
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  Speaker 1: and even radical it at times. And we're coming down
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  Speaker 1: to Australia for I don't know which time now. I'm
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  Speaker 1: guessing it's a sixth or maybe seventh tour, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: probably wrong, you know, because we've been so fucking busy
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  Speaker 1: with touring for fucking what thirty years now. But anyways, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it all comes down to the fact that
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  Speaker 1: we are coming down for four shows Adelaide, Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne.
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  Speaker 1: Melbourne is my favorite, but if you want to know,
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  Speaker 1: but I love every spot there, you know. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: We've been there so many times. We've made so many
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  Speaker 1: friends throughout you know, throughout the way, and yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: have nothing but the great memories from Australia. Yeah. See,
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  Speaker 1: like what now, like all those tours, like well, it's
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  Speaker 1: all rushing through my brain and like he just puts
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  Speaker 1: like a big smile on my face, you know, because yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was awesome every time. It was fucking awesome fantascy man.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thanks for joinings today, mate. I know it's early
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  Speaker 2: over there, so I appreciate you getting out of bed.
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean it's nine thirty am here and I'm
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  Speaker 1: quite an early bird, you know for some time now.
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  Speaker 1: I have my reasons now, personal reasons. I usually wake
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  Speaker 1: up around six thirty seven, and that's good. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I get my eighth to nine hours sleep, So I'm
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  Speaker 1: well arrested, you know. So it wasn't he wasn't enforced.
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  Speaker 2: As you say. My bab Behemoth returned to Australia next
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  Speaker 2: February for the first time I'm in a couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: Made for one of four dates, starting in Brisbane on
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  Speaker 2: eight eight, before moving through Sydney and Melbourne and finishing
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  Speaker 2: in Adelaide on February twenty second. You start before you've
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  Speaker 2: been here a futures before, so you still get the
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  Speaker 2: same excitement going back to a country for the fifth
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  Speaker 2: sixth time, or does it start where.
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  Speaker 1: You know, get a bit yes, because you never know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to sound ragant here, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like I don't want to say oh, I mean because
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  Speaker 1: the fact is that from the first two that we
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  Speaker 1: did in Australia. Every next one, you know, it just
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  Speaker 1: grow by a few percent, you know, but like every
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  Speaker 1: time it was bigger and bigger crowds. Right. We even
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  Speaker 1: did some like big festival appearances. I believe Download was
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  Speaker 1: one of those you know in soundwaves, I believe, or
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  Speaker 1: like maybe the different name of the festival. So we
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  Speaker 1: played in front of like really big crowds there as well.
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  Speaker 1: Mostly you know, it's club club tours. But still you
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  Speaker 1: never know, don't I mean, I don't want to I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to be like, oh Behema is coming back.
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  Speaker 1: You know, everyone is just fucking bowing, you know, And no, no,
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  Speaker 1: you always have to earn that you have to work hard.
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  Speaker 1: We have a new record it's called the Shit of God,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know how it's going, how it's doing
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  Speaker 1: over there in Australia now. So it's always a test.
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  Speaker 1: It's always a question of you know, how many people
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  Speaker 1: would like to go and check it out again if
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  Speaker 1: they've seen us before, and I hope they will, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And how many of the newcomers are going to show up.
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  Speaker 1: So it's it's always a question mark. You know. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to sound too you know, too full of
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  Speaker 1: myself and like, oh you know what I mean, like
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  Speaker 1: it's a royal return, you know. Behemen, No, No, we
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  Speaker 1: we do work hard, we do care about it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and we would love to have the biggest run yet
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  Speaker 1: in Australia, and you know there is potential to do that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, obviously, you know, but if this will happen,
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  Speaker 1: we can never know. What makes me excited about touring? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I do leave this doctor Jackyl mister Hyde lifestyle really,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because when I'm home, I'm quite a private
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  Speaker 1: and very domestic person. I love my boring flat, you know,
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  Speaker 1: routines through the day. I don't really do anything super
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  Speaker 1: extravagant here, like avant gardish or whatever you call it.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I have stopped using drugs and alcohol for
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  Speaker 1: some time now, which makes my love life more boring,
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  Speaker 1: you know. But it's boring does not mean it's not exciting.
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  Speaker 1: I love. I find excitement in the you know, in
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  Speaker 1: the routine, in this routine, you know. So it's it's
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  Speaker 1: like that for months now. So by the time we
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  Speaker 1: get on a plane and fly to Turkey, then Thailand,
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  Speaker 1: then China, Japan and Australia, it's gonna be three months
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  Speaker 1: gap between the tours that we do nothing. Really, we
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  Speaker 1: don't tour, We don't go anywhere. Well, we do some
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  Speaker 1: studio work and we do some maybe like you know,
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  Speaker 1: refreshing some of the songs and do rehearsal, but basically
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  Speaker 1: we focus on our daily lives, focus on our families
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  Speaker 1: and do the boring stuff. I love doing that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but it's exactly opposite. It's it's, you know, the opposite
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  Speaker 1: poll of what is happening in February, and when we
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  Speaker 1: get there, we really build it up to this level
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  Speaker 1: of excitement. So and then again, you know, there's I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you can go wrong with Australia. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to sound like an ass leaker here, but there
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  Speaker 1: are markets. I'm not gonna tell you which ones, you
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  Speaker 1: know that you know we go and because we must go,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just to make sure that you know, we
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  Speaker 1: establish ourselves. We keep on, like we maintain establishing the band.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm not that some of the markets are like
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  Speaker 1: oh fuck again. But Australia is definitely not one of those.
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  Speaker 1: Because I've mentioned earlier all the great experiences, all the friends,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the beautiful weather, great food, are great vibes.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's so positive, it's so vital, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's and also like it is important for me. You know.
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  Speaker 1: I live in Poland, so we have this you know,
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  Speaker 1: autumn and winter and it's like fucking doom and gloomy winter. Now.
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  Speaker 1: So by the time we you know, we hit Australia,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'll have enough of that, you know, changing
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  Speaker 1: the hemisphere, you know, to all the sunny and beautiful weather.
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  Speaker 1: Everything just makes me, you know, super fucking exciting and
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  Speaker 1: stoked about the fact that we're returning there, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't know, I don't really do much
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  Speaker 1: other than music. I do stuff other than music, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but music is my has always been my passion from
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  Speaker 1: play one. I formed my first band when I was
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  Speaker 1: believe it or not, eight or nine. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I had like I had like these garage bands, you know,
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  Speaker 1: prior to Behemoth. And and I've never really had a
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  Speaker 1: steady job in my life. You know, if you call
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  Speaker 1: behem At a steady job, well there's a job, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but but it's a job. But it's also not a job,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's always I've always been like that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the moment I bought my first electric guitar
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  Speaker 1: at the age of eight and my first distortion pedal.
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  Speaker 1: I've been making music, writing songs, writing lyrics, and starting
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  Speaker 1: bands until I started behem At at the age of fifteen,
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  Speaker 1: and I was it was my hobby, it was my passion.
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  Speaker 1: And the years, you know, with all this passion and
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  Speaker 1: all the hard work, you know, eventually someone started paying
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  Speaker 1: me for the recordings or you know, and then someone
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  Speaker 1: wanted to see my band live, you know, and we
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  Speaker 1: went there. First few tours we did just for pizza
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  Speaker 1: and beer, and I last thing on my head was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: there should be some financial gratitude. They're no. I was
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  Speaker 1: just happy to be on stage until a certain point
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  Speaker 1: where we're like, okay, get you get paid because you know,
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  Speaker 1: you you made an effort coming from A to B,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to perform for all these people, and like
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  Speaker 1: and organically it became my profession. And I'm still here,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like eight years old and I'm forty eight,
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  Speaker 1: forty years later, I'm still doing the same thing, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just the brother Yeah, just a bigger scale, just a
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  Speaker 1: bit more professional, you know, a bit more experienced. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I've seen more, I've done more, but but I'm still that,
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  Speaker 1: you know dude, basically, you know, loving metal and loving
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  Speaker 1: my fucking you know, heavy music, and I'm a big
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  Speaker 1: fan myself, you know, so whenever I see people coming
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  Speaker 1: to see us, I know how they feel because you know,
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  Speaker 1: whenever it's Layer or now anymore. But still every then
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  Speaker 1: again what may then or fucking you name it, fucking
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  Speaker 1: I've just seen a terrorizer and possessed. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: go into the crowd, I go in front, like front row.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a fan, you know, so I'm the guy on stage.
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  Speaker 1: I'm also the guy in front of the stage, you know,
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  Speaker 1: depending on you know which which day it is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so I know how it feels. And I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we all age and you know we're crumbling,
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  Speaker 1: we're you know, it's a download spider from now one obviously,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm forty eight. I'll go for another thirty
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  Speaker 1: years and then that's it, the end of the treat
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  Speaker 1: But it doesn't really take away the optimism and excitement
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  Speaker 1: about listening and playing heavy music.
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  Speaker 2: Damn right, well, said brother Will said. Now the tour
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  Speaker 2: also celebrates like the thirty years of metal dominance or
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  Speaker 2: behamoth In an industry where longevity is bloody, art decided
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  Speaker 2: the least mate. So do you ever take time to
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  Speaker 2: reflect on your musical journey and what you've achieved?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, for a few years now. Yes. We can't
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  Speaker 1: afford not to tour ourselves to death. That's what we
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  Speaker 1: did up until I got seek. I went through chemotherapy.
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  Speaker 1: I had cancer, like fourteen years ago or fifteen years
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  Speaker 1: ago now, time flies, I don't know. Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 1: probably around fifteen years ago. And we would steal, like,
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  Speaker 1: work very hard and tour intensively, but not as much.
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  Speaker 1: And I just finally started catching myself, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: between the tours and just retrospecting and looking around and saying, okay,
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  Speaker 1: where you are, what have you achieved? You know, how
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  Speaker 1: much you enjoyed you know, zero to ten, how much
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  Speaker 1: you enjoy where you are, what you're doing, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean? Just reflecting and realizing who are you,
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  Speaker 1: where are you and what you're doing in your life?
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And up until that point,
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  Speaker 1: I was a fucking robot, you know, I mean, one
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  Speaker 1: of our you know. I think I came up with
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  Speaker 1: this slogan, resting is not for conquerors, and I would
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  Speaker 1: just go by the slogan, you know, throughout the fucking
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  Speaker 1: Demi Godeera, Apostasy, Evangelian until I got Cancert. But but hey,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's how we build up, that's how we
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  Speaker 1: went there. You know. Behemoth has never been an overnight sensation.
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  Speaker 1: We've never been one of those bands that we just
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  Speaker 1: released this album and it would just make us big.
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  Speaker 1: Because you take ten Behemoth fans and you ask them, hey,
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  Speaker 1: what's your favorite record you're going to Each one will
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  Speaker 1: tell you a different album. Oh, the Shit of God, now,
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  Speaker 1: the Satanist, no Grom, the second one, No Evangelian was
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  Speaker 1: your peak, and they will fucking argue, and that is amazing.
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  Speaker 1: While you talk to Metallica fans and they'll all say
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  Speaker 1: Master of Puppets. Talk to Slayer fans, they'll all say
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  Speaker 1: your Ranian blood and so on, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: When you talk to the side, they'll all say debut
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  Speaker 1: or legion, you know, and we are very fortunate, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And it's been a long I mean, it's been just
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  Speaker 1: climbing up throughout decades until it's not thirty years Behemoth
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  Speaker 1: that has been around for thirty four years. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: someone gave you like a wrong information. I am celebrating
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  Speaker 1: Behemoth's debut record next summer with this project called Spent
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  Speaker 1: a Bit, So this is not like a thirty year celebration.
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  Speaker 2: Trying to take years off your life there, bro, I
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  Speaker 2: was trying to do you a favor.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyways, it's just yeah, just yeah. I think
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  Speaker 1: I made my point here, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and for him, as they've always been known and
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  Speaker 2: respected for your live shows, but how much have they
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  Speaker 2: evolved over the years into the spectacle that we see today?
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  Speaker 1: Quite much, quite much. I remember, yeah, just tell the
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  Speaker 1: anecdote instead of you know, coming up with some theories here.
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  Speaker 1: A few years ago I managed to It was right
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  Speaker 1: before Pandemic. I managed to go backstage before Ramstein played
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  Speaker 1: in Prague and I was introduced to Teal and he
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  Speaker 1: was super cool and I started talking and I told
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  Speaker 1: him I have a band and fucking and we invest
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  Speaker 1: so much money in live shows, you know, and actually,
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  Speaker 1: and it's always is like because the money you get
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  Speaker 1: for the show, the fee is like it's your money.
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  Speaker 1: So when if you're a fan of here, you go
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  Speaker 1: to the show, you always keep in mind that whatever
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  Speaker 1: you see there, it's bends money that how much they
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  Speaker 1: decided to spend from their own cash to Okay, we
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  Speaker 1: have Pyro, we have this, we have that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and no one gave, like it's not for free. It's
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  Speaker 1: the bend that decides, okay, how much you know, this
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  Speaker 1: much chunk you know, we can give to the invest
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  Speaker 1: in the production. So I was kind of complaining to Teel.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, man, fucking hell, you know, it's like
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  Speaker 1: it feels like you know, you've been touring, touring, touring,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and and we get paid for tours obviously,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but we always I keep on investing. And
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  Speaker 1: I remember he told me, you see that production today,
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  Speaker 1: we need to tour this season and the next season
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  Speaker 1: only to pay that production off. But and that's his words.
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  Speaker 1: But it's worth. But it's worth because what people see
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  Speaker 1: they will take with them, you know, and they'll just
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  Speaker 1: cherished that for the rest of their lives. You know.
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  Speaker 1: They won't just see you know, some dudes, you know,
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  Speaker 1: wearing jeans and just getting sweaty and two fucking lamps
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  Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, It's not it's not
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  Speaker 1: it's fucking grand, it's it's massive, it's it's overwhelming. And
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  Speaker 1: Ramstein has has always been like one of my top
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  Speaker 1: favorite like life acts, you know, and I do look
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  Speaker 1: up to them. Obviously, Australia is a limited market because
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  Speaker 1: you have massive restrictions. You know, there's no way to
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  Speaker 1: do we pull a fire there. Same with America. It's
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  Speaker 1: not possible unless you are Ramstein and you have all
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  Speaker 1: the money in the world to do that. We we cannot.
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  Speaker 1: But of course we bring our sun guys, we bring
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  Speaker 1: our light guys. We we build a stage like we
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  Speaker 1: make the best out of what we can, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and we do spend like every time we do get paid,
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  Speaker 1: like every season we get more money for shows, and
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  Speaker 1: that is amazing. But trust me, the first thing that
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  Speaker 1: I have is like, oh shit, we got this much
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  Speaker 1: from grasp Op or this much from Mystic Festival, And
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  Speaker 1: like my first thought is always like how can we
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  Speaker 1: spend it? What else we can add to the stage
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna make people? Was wow, you know, because I'm
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  Speaker 1: that kid watching Ramstein and I'm like Joe, like open
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  Speaker 1: and like, fucking hell, how I can do that? Just
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  Speaker 1: on my level? How I can replicate that how I
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  Speaker 1: can what I can steal from that and just make
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  Speaker 1: it with way smaller scale, but impress my crowds, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And that's always been my agenda, That has always been
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  Speaker 1: my fix. You know that I just don't want to
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  Speaker 1: go there and just keep all the money. And just
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  Speaker 1: like there's a lot of bands that just don't give
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  Speaker 1: a fuck. They just go out there. You know, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: we are a legacy band. You know, we're gonna play
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  Speaker 1: this record and people will will have to be you know, fulfilled, satisfied. No, No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be that guy.
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  Speaker 2: And further to that, Sam, I like your music is
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  Speaker 2: is a product of your visuals just as much as
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  Speaker 2: the need is of the songs. Like how difficult is
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  Speaker 2: it to combined the vision in your head with the
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  Speaker 2: music and the creative process?
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  Speaker 1: Well that's a complex question, but then again, you know
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  Speaker 1: it's it all happens organically. Building a record is really
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  Speaker 1: like a putting a puzzle together. Or I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: or a MA thesis was exactly the same ame thesis
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  Speaker 1: I did Miami thesis fucking thirty years twenty years ago,
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  Speaker 1: twenty five years ago or ages ago. Yeah, and just
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  Speaker 1: putting together pieces, you know, like you never know if
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna fit, you know, but you you put it together.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you fuck around, you know, you try, You
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  Speaker 1: make mistakes, you know, and like somehow, like the vision
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  Speaker 1: and you know, the lyrical side, you know, and and
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  Speaker 1: all the soundscapes and everything, you know, somehow organically comes
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  Speaker 1: together sometimes, you know, I haven't, I don't know. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: the whole process starts with an album title. It did
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  Speaker 1: happen before many times, and that would be like a
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  Speaker 1: torch that would just give light to visuals all and
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  Speaker 1: then things appear to me, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: or like themes or topics appear to me. Oh I
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  Speaker 1: want to write about that because of the title. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it starts, you know, the other way around. I have
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  Speaker 1: this chord, I have this real or like a song finished,
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  Speaker 1: and the song kind of sparks, you know, the ideas,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and like, oh that I think that song
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  Speaker 1: kind of make me think of pyramids, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: or some fucking Babylonian times or you know when I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking like cliches now, you know, but just just
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  Speaker 1: to give you, like a picturesque idea how this may work,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and and there is no formula. Really, there's
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  Speaker 1: no formula. So for example, at this stage, now I'm
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  Speaker 1: just I'm basically just fucking around with the guitar. And
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  Speaker 1: I always make notes, so I don't know. I like,
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  Speaker 1: two weeks ago, I went to the premiere of this
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  Speaker 1: theater play and I remember because obviously you don't use
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: your you know, you don't check your iPhone, you know
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: when watching, like, but I must because there's always something
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: that I need to make notes because I hear a
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  Speaker 1: verse or they said something. I'm like, fucking hell, I'm
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: stealing it. And I like, my gerfriend is sitting next
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  Speaker 1: to me and I'm making notes and she's like, no,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: you're misbehaving. Yeah, but if I don't write it down,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I will get it. Of course I will. So I'm
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: making nose there, you know, like and because I might
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: use it. And and I'm always like my rather, my
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: radar is always on because it's like this, because you
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: never know if you're gonna catch that wave that's gonna
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: make I don't know, like an album idea, or make
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a title of a song, or make it an idea
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: for a video for a song, you know what I mean.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: It was always like open head, like always, it never ends.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Really, the inspiration comes at the weirdest time's done it.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: True, true, and you know what, Okay, it was few Yeah,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: it was actually a few days ago. I was at
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the gym and like when training out, when working out,
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  Speaker 1: and it's probably because of the endoor fins and like
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: because I'm so pumped, you know, a lot of ideas
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  Speaker 1: just struck my brain, you know, strike my brain. And
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I remember I left the gym and I immediately called
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: my friend who's managing Demo Bordier, and I had some
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: of like creative ideas what we could do together, you know,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: in order to promote the tour. But that that's that's it.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: You know. I'm at the gym, I'm working out, like
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: lifting weights, running and stuff, and then I leave, you know,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: and like and all of a sudden, I have the enlightenments,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this Eureka effect, and I'm just man, just
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: an idea. I'm just throwing those ideas at you. Just
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: process that, see if we can do anything or blah
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: blah by by by by blah bye bye. Okay, I'm
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: going to talk to the band and that's it, you know.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: And then I forget about it, you know, but it
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: kind of flew down on me and I need to
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: take it out of my system and eventually something's gonna
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: come out of it or not. But I must just
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: just clean my system off with all those ideas. You know.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: It's like I metaphorically I like to call like creating,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: you know, like defecating basically, you know, because it's something
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can hold it right because it'd be intoxicated.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: You can hold it. You have to every morning, you
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: have to make a big jump, you know, otherwise you're
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: gonna choke on that and you don't want to do that.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: So I mean, like, I know, it's a very picturesque
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I like idea, and it's gonna make some people here,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: But that's exactly That's exactly the same with the with
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: creators like myself, or songwriters or probably poets, and like
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: all kinds of creators out there, are all kinds of artists,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: you know, they just can't hold it there. They must
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: make notes, they must create something. It's I don't know,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: is this is this artistic creative ADHD that I have
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: and I can't fucking stop it. That's why I'm still
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: here now that's why I'm still talking to you, and
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: that's why you'll see me in two months fucking you know,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: performing those ideas live for you.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Fantastic, fantasty. You mentioned the latest album this year of God,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: there was your thirty eighth album, mate, Like, you've also
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: got other projects, eat, a lot of writing for so
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: do you think the more material you put out it
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: becomes easier or harder for you to come up with
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: something that sounds fresh and vibrant.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Obviously it's more and more demanding, more challenging, you know,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: But then who we are to say that, you know,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: just take Priests or Metallica. How much of a task
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: it is for those bands to come up with something
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be I mean, James Hatfield like like he's
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: like like openly talks about it. Now black record, black
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: album was that, you know, and then ever seen it's
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: a struggle and I've never been like entirely That's what
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: he said. I've never been entirely happy with what we do.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: And he said that, you know, so trust me, it's
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: not an easy task and just take for intance Judas Priest.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: But Judas Priest, you know, last record is fucking amazing.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: The one before Firepower was fucking amazing. So like, I
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: look up to those bands and I'm like, you know what,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: they still can do it. If they can do it,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I can do it. But it's not easy. It's far
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: from that. That's why sometimes I have to zero myself.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Like some people get it. Some people didn't get that.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: You know, when I gave our latest record that title,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: they were like, oh, the girl, you can do better
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: than this. No, I can do better. This is the
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: best I can give you. This is the best I
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: can give you. And if you don't have, if you
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: don't want to, like look into that and just see
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: there's it's not just a primitive slogan or like simple
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: or whatever it's it's it's something way more than just
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: provocative title. It's something way more than that. And you
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: just need to dig into that. You know, it's not
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: a stupid title. Just get the record, read the lyrics.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: You know it's not a stupid title, and it makes sense.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: You just need to make an effort as a fan
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: to digest that, to process that and eventually understand that.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: You know, but it's up to you. I did my work,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: now it's up to you and I know, it's a
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: challenging title and it's a challenging record. And it's not
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: like you know, some cheap like Satanic you know, chet
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: chats there never been. It's very challenging, very demanding album
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: with the title that you think that you may think, oh,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: that's something wrong with those dudes. You know, they didn't
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: come up with something complex and philosophical. And it's more
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: philosophical than you think it is. And so yeah, but
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: but with this album title, I kind of zero myself,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: you know, because I remember thinking, fucking hell, you know,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, I I stole this Opus contraturam title from Yung,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: you know, but who knows who Jung is, you know,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: And then you know, I stole I Loved You from
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: your I loved you your talcus, you know, from the
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Bible or it's like it's like a traversary but it's
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: you know, it's inspired by the Bible. And I thought
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: it's beautiful title. Yet people are bitching about it, you know,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: but like I thought, there's so much depth there, you know,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: and let me explain you. But they're like, you can't
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: top the Satanist. Satanist is like that kind of title
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: is one one in the world, one in a lifetime,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: you know, and there's one Evangelian and one Apostasy and
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: and and you I mean trying to top that, you
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: will fail. You need you must do something completely opposite.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: That's gonna just get people like of the Guard, you know,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: like boom, and they're like, what the fuck is that?
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: And that's what the shit of God is. So now
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: when I zero myself, if you know what I'm trying
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: to explain, now I can again build something more way
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: more sophisticated and complex, and just to build the dynamics,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like if you if you
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: analyze Behemo's album titles look like the Satanist, then I
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: love you too, Darkness, something completely different, the dynamics, it
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: goes somewhere else. And then the Latin title that I
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: stole from Young Opus Contraatura, and then of God said,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: it's like you have five album titles or four, Now
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: what's it for? Yeah, that are like completely different, you
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. And that's what makes it cool
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: at least for me, Like everyone is different. And I'm
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: not doing those two make you like them. I'm doing
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: those to fucking confuse you. That is my you know,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: main goal to confuse the funk out of people, and
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: it's excited.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: At the time you said that the album was released,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: you said, the new era begins as we bleed for
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: this monumental labor. So what did you mean by the
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: new era.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Well, new cycle, I'd say new era, new cycle, new adventure,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: and that's exactly what it is. Every album marks a
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: new era, so it's not just so it's not like, oh,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: this is the new era, you know, It's like every
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: cycle is a new era. So basically it's just a nomenclature.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, right now, I'm sorry brother. Well, I'm gonna feel
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: that we could shuttle night, but best by you guys,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: but return to Australia for the Chance of Eastern Land
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Stower in February twenty twenty six, with tickets available from
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: the Phoenix Dot Au. But I suggest if you want
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: to go along, you get yourself a ticket for Christmas
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: because these ones will sell out and I'll see you
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: in Brisbane, my friend.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I'm super fucking still gonna happy
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: to come back. Good talk.