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Mark Mowry: Music, Mission Work, and Balancing Life · The Scene Projects

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  Welcome in to a very exciting episode of the scene.
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  I am your host Bubba Starts, and with me today is singer songwriter and agent of change, Mark
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  Mowry.
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  Welcome to the show, Mark.
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  Thank you, Bubba.
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  Nice to be here with you and your audience.
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  Hello out there.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, it's a pleasure to have you, Mark.
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  We haven't got to see each other in quite a while.
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  We we collaborated on a show.
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  Oh, jeez.
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  It must have been seven, eight years ago now, I think.
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  But go ahead and for our listeners, kinda give us a little backstory of who you are and what
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  you do now.
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  Well, I guess I was happy to do something with you because of that, you know, prior
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  experience.
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  And then since then, I guess, you know, kinda through the grapevine, I I knew you'd become a
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  podcaster along with your music career.
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  And so, anyway, what I'm doing now right actually, right now, we're building a a new
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  home in Spearfish.
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  So that's taken up a lot of my time.
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  But, I'm also, you know, kinda hitting the the music projects again.
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  Let me just, scan.
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  I'm downstairs in my in my studio.
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  I don't know how well that's all gonna show up.
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  Yeah.
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  It looks lovely.
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  We can see the guitars back there.
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  Yeah.
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  So, yeah.
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  Right now, I guess one of the things I'm doing is, I made a few parodies about current events,
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  mostly politicians and that kind of thing.
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  I hope I'm not, you know, deteriorating in my songwriting craft and that kind of thing, but
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  some of those things can and maybe as you've talked to other songwriters, the songwriting
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  thing can, you know, can ebb and flow quite a bit.
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  So I've been in quite of a a period of what I might call a lull.
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  And, you know, I I wouldn't mind changing that.
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  We'll see what what the lord has in store for me, but maybe it's you know, I'm gonna squeeze
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  out another season of my life of being more, you know, active with the songwriting and, just
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  just, you know, performance type stuff.
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  But I'd have taken a break from it.
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  A lot of that since, the COVID thing.
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  You know?
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  Things really changed around, 2020.
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  So and it wasn't
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  And prior to that, it wasn't in 2018 that you were running and running your political
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  campaign?
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  No.
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  That really began after, 01/06/2021.
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  So it's the 2022 when when you really started pushing in that election year.
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  Okay?
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  I felt, you know, I don't know if I'll be remembered as the South Dakotan who ran against
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  John Thune, but I know I won't forget it anyway.
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  Well and and that was a that was a major thing to me.
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  I know listeners of ours know that we have the Patriot Broadcasting Network and that project
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  kinda going as well because we felt a calling to to represent South Dakota values.
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  I think bringing politics to the forefront of what we do, yes, we focus on arts and music a
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  lot, but I feel that art and politics have always gone, kind of hand in hand, and they're
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  both a reflection of the culture.
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  So I I was very I was very proud of you to see you step out into that political theater, and
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  it opened my mind a little bit to what's possible, maybe even for myself moving forward.
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  I think my, record of felonies will probably keep me from ever getting elected.
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  But to be around campaigns and to have real South Dakotans that continue to have real South
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  Dakota values, I think is important.
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  I think what we've exposed from our, you know, from our senators and the people that, you
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  know, we've been sending to Washington is that they are more Washington than they are South
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  Dakota.
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  And I I was very proud of you for standing up to that big machine.
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  I mean, these people got millions upon millions of dollars to run against you, and but you
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  stood up there, and you chose to put your name in the hat to represent the people of South
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  Dakota, and it's it's worthy of praise, Mark.
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  It's not an easy thing to step up against a a foe like a, political rival as powerful as John
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  Thune is?
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  I mean, now the senate majority leader.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, you know, and and I have to say that he's, you know, he's supporting the president
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  now with a new agenda, a new mandate.
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  I don't know how genuine that is.
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  You know, I mean, that would have to mean that that he's taken a, you know, complete a 180
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  degree turn from where he was at.
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  Well, I got I saw a picture of him posed up with Zelensky just two years ago.
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  So, I mean, come on.
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  It's all a lot of lip service.
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  And, Mark, that's what I mean when I when I say I'm so proud of you that, you know, it's it's
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  not easy.
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  And even for me to step out into that theater a little bit took some, you know, I was very
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  adamant about, you know, the need for having president Trump this year.
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  There was really no one else to run against that machine that was gonna make a difference.
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  Now, do I agree with everything that's there?
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  No.
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  But I think we're headed in a much better direction now than we were and seeing what's
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  been done to kind of undo some of the, some of the things that have been done.
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  Right?
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  So
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  Yeah.
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  I'm glad to hear you say that.
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  Well and now, I love that you're kind of bringing your political life and your artist
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  life that they're kinda coming back together with the music.
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  You've sent me a few of your parodies.
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  I thought they were great, a a great start.
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  And, obviously, with building a new house, I hope there's gonna be a studio space in that
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  one as well and that you're gonna be recording a lot more of this stuff.
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  So, obviously, you had the inspiration.
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  It is plentiful for for more political parody tunes.
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  Mhmm.
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  Well, you know, I'm getting back to the music.
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  You know what?
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  Over the years, and it's been many years, I've I've produced a lot of music, Bubba.
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  I mean and I've just I grabbed these right before, you know, thinking, well, if we're this
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  is going to be a Zoom meeting, I can, you know, show off some of the stuff, the products I've
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  had.
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  But this is the first how how do I do
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  little higher.
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  Yeah.
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  Up a little higher.
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  Bring it up a little higher.
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  This was my first, you know, maybe you might say Look at that.
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  Product for sale.
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  And I made this, in India back in, I guess, around 1994 or something like that, '95.
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  I came home with about 500 of these.
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  And
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  Printed over there?
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  Did they they produce the cassettes over in India?
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  Yeah.
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  I I what had happened is, after I became a Christian, I more or less laid down my music my
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  music ambitions, aspirations.
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  You might say, you know, I I made that effort.
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  I mean I took that stance.
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  And but then when I got over to India and I was working with a with a ministry over there, they
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  had a coffee house.
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  I started playing guitar there, and then this grew from that.
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  I found out how cheap it was to do a recording, and it was like, wow.
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  That's amazing.
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  It was a four track studio, but back in 1993, you know, there was still a lot of the work
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  that was being done was analog.
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  So, but I was right there in that cusp of when everything started going digital and
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  everything.
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  And so
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  Well, and I had totally forgotten until you brought up the tape that, yeah, I mean, your
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  kids were raised in India for a time and this whole part of your life.
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  Let's talk about that.
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  Obviously, you know, your your, you know, a mission, right, to to if through Christ and and
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  going into a foreign land.
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  And how long were you guys there, Mark?
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  Well, we're still there because we go we we come and we go, but worn a lot of hats.
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  And, Bubba, I've had I've had a million jobs over the years.
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  You know?
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  Because in in India I'm in India, then I'm back home.
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  You know?
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  I'm picking up day work.
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  I'm I'm the, I'm a gig worker from way back when before, you know, that that term was even
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  used, I think.
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  You know?
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  You know, just I don't know how long this will take, but I'll try to do a quick synopsis.
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  But I I played an bar band, from the eighties on, three piece, four piece, three piece, bar
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  band.
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  And I was a drummer back then and a vocalist.
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  That band was called Out of the Out of the Blue.
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  And, so, anyway, I moved from that into then I then I had my born again experience, and I
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  didn't wanna do the club scene anymore.
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  And I I had wanted to play guitar for a long time, and I have been playing guitar a little
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  bit.
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  But it just kinda more gelled when I started picking up, guitar style that, you know, kinda
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  worked for me, singing and playing and everything.
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  And and, yeah, it helped me also to move towards the songwriting thing.
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  But that's when India came into all that.
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  So, anyway, I've always been a songwriter whenever I could, you know, get my hands on a
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  guitar.
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  And those influences I I did wanna talk about some of the guitar influences.
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  So I've never really been a heavy duty rocker.
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  I mean, I enjoy rock.
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  But I realized in my playing and everything that I was really into a lot of kinda soft
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  stuff.
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  Like, I remember being a fan of Cat Stevens, you know, going way back when, and Paul Simon,
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  Simon Garfunkel, that kind of stuff.
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  Anyway but when I got into, like, country blues, Delta picking, and, more like, country
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  country blues and that kind of stuff.
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  Did I say Mississippi John Hurt?
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  Anyway, I just love that sound, and I kinda picked up on that.
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  So, anyway, those years and then, yeah, after, making that cassette, I went back to me, India
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  immediately after making that cassette that I just showed you with the idea that I would, you
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  know, go to India to produce music.
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  So, that hadn't been the primary reason to go, but now I had a new calling.
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  So, and it was, you know, more the digital thing.
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  I worked with some Indian artists, but a lot of the stuff I did, also, I used a d r five.
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  Are you familiar with that old d r five machine?
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  I'm not.
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  No.
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  A multitracker.
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  Pretty amazing stuff, you know, back then.
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  But, anyway, so then I have this other product.
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  I I came back home from India to South Dakota, and there was a guy in Reliance, South Dakota.
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  And he wasn't able to do much because the tracks had already been, you know, made.
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  But he kinda did some editing, put together this jacket cover, and so I knocked around
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  South Dakota.
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  Anyway, that's kind of you know, I've I've I kind of returned.
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  I never really returned to the club scene very heavily, but I when I came back to India, from
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  India again, about 02/2014, I did play a lot, like, say, like, firehouse and quite a bit down
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  on the Southern Hills.
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  We were living in Custer, and there were some nice jam sessions down there too.
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  There's a place on the way oh, Buffalo Gap.
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  On Saturday nights, the community would come to the hall there, and I did some drumming and
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  some guitar playing, a bunch of other cowboys, mostly, you know, cowboy music.
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  But, yeah, I'm covering a lot of ground here.
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  But, as I say, you know, always kinda wanted to have my, you know, my my toe in the water, so
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  to speak, or whatever in some fashion.
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  But, really, when with the COVID thing, that that really shut down a lot of things.
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  I mean, even people's attitudes.
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  I started finding out that I was, you know, not intentionally, but being at odds with so many
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  people.
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  And I think it was the virtue signaling that was coming forth.
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  I don't know if you if you ever felt or any of that or not, but suddenly, you know, like, you
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  know, it almost felt like, you know, if if I wasn't supposed to more or less apologize for
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  my outlook on life, you know, I could just, you know, go eat dirt or something.
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  And so
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Dude, I felt a lot of that too, Mark, and I just I don't know.
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  I've never been one that cared very much, and I just kept moving forward.
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  I mean, those years are a big reason why my wife and I moved to Tyndall, South Dakota is
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  because, you know, I I was a big Joe Rogan fan.
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  I was listening to his podcast all the time, and he was obviously in Los Angeles at the
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  time.
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  And hearing those early those early days, I mean, I started hearing about COVID before it
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  ever really affected anything in South Dakota.
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  Right?
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  I was hearing about it in the early parts of January and going, what what's going on?
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  You know?
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  And then realizing that there was gonna be this flood out of California, and the property was
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  already so expensive in the Black Hills at that time for us.
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  Right?
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  Making you know?
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  I think I was making $16 an hour or something when I started out, welding.
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  Right?
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  This is $20.18.
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  I was fresh out of prison.
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  And then, I was like, we're not gonna be able to afford to buy anything ever.
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  We're we're paying, you know, $800 to rent this 900 square foot townhouse, and, like, this
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  isn't living.
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  This is so much you know, we gotta be able to buy something and we just couldn't find
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  anything.
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  There was nothing.
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  I mean, even a comp we found, the house that we ended up buying was like $85,000 here in our
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  little farm town.
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  And we looked for comparables around in the hills.
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  We found one that was in Sturgis, and it was completely gutted down to the studs.
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  And a complete fixer upper was gonna need another 85 to make it livable.
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  Right?
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  And it was like, yeah.
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  We we can't afford to live here anymore, and it's only it's only gotten worse since then.
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  You're right.
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  Yeah.
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  We it's, it was more or less, you know, for us to be building a house, I never would have
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  guessed that, you know, at this stage of my life, I'd be building a new house in the Black
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  Hills, but it wasn't the hard times that fell upon us.
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  It was just the opposite, but a big, you know, a big bundle of money that we didn't know how
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  to invest otherwise, but just real estate seemed like the safest way to go.
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  So here we are, you know, the Black Hills, you know, property owners again.
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  We do have a nice house here in Spearfish.
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  So, but, anyway, that's kind of the way we took it.
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  Now, Mark, did you say that you're still traveling back and forth to India to this day?
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  You you guys go for a period of time every year then?
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  Right.
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  Right.
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  I've managed to squirrel away some acoustic guitars in two different places in South India
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  where we go.
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  We assist some people with the education program there.
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  And, you know, by this time, I've never really had much of a pulpit ministry that never really
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  felt like my calling.
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  And even as a, you know, as a musician, I've never really felt much as being much of a
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  worship leader and that kind of thing.
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  But I'm still a musician, and, I mean, I think it it takes all kinds of people.
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  Right?
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  Know?
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  And all kinds of giftings and all kinds of callings.
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  And I think, you know, sometimes my calling is a little closer, you know, to, this space here
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  than, you know, to some of the more heralded positions.
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  But, you know, I love it all.
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  I mean, I love serving the Lord, and I love, you know, being able to be with the people.
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  And and in this case, you know, there are children involved that, you know, they're
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  hungry for you know, to learn English.
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  And, well and we're kinda strange.
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  We come from USA and kind of a what would you call that?
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  A novelty.
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  But anyway Mexico.
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  I lived in the heart of Mexico for a year, Mark.
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  I know all about that feeling.
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  Yeah.
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  Right.
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  So you get that.
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  And then also, there's another place that we go in the Northeast India.
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  So, you know, that's it's right bordering to, Burma, Myanmar.
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  So totally different culture, totally different looking people.
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  But, as I say, I've got a I've got what kind of guitar is that called?
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  It's an acoustic and kinda has, a British something about it doesn't matter.
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  It's a it's a playable acoustic guitar, and I got it squirreled away with a friend there.
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  And, you know, hopefully, I said, hey.
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  Play it, you know, and and, you know, use it.
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  But when I get back there, hopefully, I can just grab it and and, you know Yeah.
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  Sing songs.
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  And that's such a like, to try and bring a guitar over with you every single time doing
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  international flights and everything.
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  Yeah.
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  What a nightmare that would be.
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  I've got some
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  fortunate to have some places, you know, that that you can leave things.
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  And and I'm sure you have people that are family there to you over all of these years.
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  I mean Yeah.
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  You you don't visit these places and form these relationships without, forming a deep, deep
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  bond with all of these people.
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  So
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  Absolutely.
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  I think
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  No.
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  Was on a six piece band over in New Delhi while we were there.
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  Was called Big Bang Blues.
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  And, so, yeah, I was actually kind of a charter member of a band.
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  It's still going.
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  It has a lot different lineup over the years.
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  But a lot of what I was doing then was playing the harmonica because we did have a lot of
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  guitar, you know, guitarist.
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  And
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  Well, stringed instruments are very popular in India still.
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  I mean, the sitar, originates from the Indian Peninsula.
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  Correct?
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  Well, there's this the sitar.
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  Is that what you were saying?
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  Yeah.
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  Well and I assume there's probably a million other instruments that I've never seen and
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  don't know the names of as well, but they have a passion for stringed instruments.
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  So it would make sense that the guitar would be very popular as well.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  That's, you know, where you get into the and I'm no expert on, you know, Indian music
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  styles.
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  There's a Hindustani classical and a Carnatic.
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  Carnatic is more in the South.
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  But that's when they come up with those microtones or something.
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  So you know?
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  And not that the neck of a sitar or anything is that much different.
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  I mean, the the interval on a fret, I think, is still a half step.
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  But it's really you know, it's kind of the origin probably of the slide or the slur that
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  and, you know, which then comes in the blues and, you know, that but that kind of whininess
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  or whatever those that that does you know, goes way back when I don't in in Indian music.
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  So but they actually have names for those quarter tones, I guess, is what they're called.
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  You know, very concise.
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  And when you learn when you learn the, like, the singers, the vocalist, you know, rather
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  than say, like, you know, going from c sharp d, there's gonna be something in between c sharp
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  d, and they'll have a name.
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  You know?
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  Let's just say it's bop.
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  You know?
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  So it's b b b or whatever.
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  And, you know, they're listening for a conciseness in those quarter tones.
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  Very challenging.
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  I mean, you find that out about and so playing with Indian musicians, they're kinda nitpicky
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  for me.
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  I'm a little too, you know, loose shoes for that, for what they like.
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  So I stick to my, you know, American Americana sound and, you know, it but it it goes.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, and that's what, you know, I realized going when I went to Mexico, I mean, I was
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  surviving my family by going out and playing in the Mercado and playing on the square, and they
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  love American music.
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  Obviously, you know, American pop culture has, you know, spread all all over the world since,
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  you know, the fifties.
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  Right?
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  And and it was really interesting to me.
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  I mean, I played Hotel California maybe three times a day.
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  Right?
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  Because I was out there to make money, and that's the one that no matter when I played it
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  would would fill up the, would fill up the guitar case with pesos.
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  So I can imagine that because there's not many people playing American music and doing, you
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  know, traditional blues stuff or, you know, even the folk the folk things as well, that you
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  would find a nice little niche just being yourself and being the American novelty and
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  being able to, to just survive in that little space.
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  Mhmm.
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  Right.
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  Right.
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  So, yeah, you sometimes you gotta give them what they wanna hear.
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  Although sometimes it's you know, it can be, a challenge.
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  As a songwriter, do they wanna hear your songs?
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  You know?
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  I mean, familiarity is, you know, is a nice thing.
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  So like a lot of, like, I think a lot of performers, you know, I I compromise.
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  So, you know, I add some familiar stuff and then throw in my some originals here and there
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  and, you know, hope for the best.
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  But, I don't know if you if you write songs yourself, do do many originals.
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  Or
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I I that's really where my my passion has always been, and it was the reason why, you
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  know, the scene projects kinda came about was as I did I released the song last year.
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  It was around this time, and I kinda did the media tour.
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  Right?
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  I had a couple of podcasts I had done.
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  I was on the local news.
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  I was getting on the local radio to promote it.
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  And what I realized was, you know, I I kinda spoke before.
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  I thought I was quitting my job to be to be a rock star.
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  Right?
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  To be on that side of the microphone and then quickly realized that actually there's a much
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  larger need on this side of the microphone to talk to all of these people.
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  There's not very many people that are willing to put in the effort, to put in the time, or
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  even that good at interviewing people and relating and having conversations, to be
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  perfectly honest.
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  I think we can thank COVID in 2020 for that, you know, and the cultural shift that, well, if
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  you don't agree with someone, you just don't talk to them and you call them crazy and and
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  then walk away.
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  And I'm trying to kind of break that.
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  Right?
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  And the easiest thing to do it is to do it with music.
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  Right?
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  I'm talking to people from all different backgrounds, and it's also a reason why I kind
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  of separated maybe a little bit of the political content that I was doing so I could
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  have a little bit deeper conversations over there.
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  I wasn't locked into, you know, it being having to dodge it.
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  Right?
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  Because it was something that I wanted to talk about.
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  And now I realize that, you know, with with podcasting that everyone can do that.
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  Everyone can have those conversations that they want.
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  They can create their own.
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  It wasn't that hard for me to do all of this.
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  So we're trying to shorten that learning curve for everyone.
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  To train a million podcasters is my big goal now, and just keep growing.
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  Keep growing and teaching people how to it's really about confidence.
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  Anybody can sit on Zoom and talk.
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  Right?
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  Like, this is easy.
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  It's having the confidence to do all the stuff behind the scenes and just to be in front of a
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  camera that most people think that they don't have.
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  Right?
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  Like, they don't have the confidence.
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  They have the ability.
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  They just don't have the confidence.
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  So writing a book and getting, more familiar with, you know, speaking engagements and
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  getting just out and just doing this, getting these podcast episodes out there is is my way
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  of doing it.
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  This is my pulpit.
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  Right?
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  This is my church.
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  This is how I'm trying to bring people in.
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  I've said, a lot on the podcast lately that this is how God is speaking through us,
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  especially sharing, a lot deeper, stuff, you know, shows like Get Better Together Project
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  where we're going into family trauma and we're going into, you know, the things in your life
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  that you don't wanna tell anyone and bringing it out to the forefront of our lives.
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  And whether a million people see that or not, it's kind of out of you.
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  You've gotten this story out or whatever has damaged you can get out.
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  It's on tape.
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  And whether we post that or not, I know it's been extremely valuable to me.
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  It's been a form of therapy, beyond just being in a room with one other person and, you know,
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  kinda having those conversations with someone who's making a buck off you.
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  Right?
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  Like, I think the therapy system in this country, especially talk therapy, is nothing
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  more than lip service.
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  It might as well be politics at this point.
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  Well, you know, when you were talking about how you, you know, thought maybe you were gonna be
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  a rock star and that kind of thing and that whole you know, that's a campaign.
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  And I've been through a few campaigns myself.
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  You know?
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  And so you're you're wanting things to catch fire and but they're, you know, then duty calls
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  in so many different ways.
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  I mean, you're a family man and as as I am and, you know, was and am.
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  So and you're just you gotta hand it to people, you know, who who stick it out and become, you
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  know, success in in the music business.
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  But I think, you know, we've kind of made success almost an unreal thing.
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  I mean, a lot of times, the the the collateral damage from a successful music career is, you
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  know, what most healthy people would not wanna have to pay that price.
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  You
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  know?
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  No.
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  And and I've been very fortunate because I'm still in the music business.
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  Right?
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  Like, this still has my music success story.
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  In fact, it's opened a lot more doors for me to go and play other shows and play out a stage.
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  And I'm in the, you know, Twin Cities area more regularly now than I ever dreamed I would be,
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  but it's because of the podcast.
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  And finally, you know, when my phone started ringing because people wanted to talk to me all
• 27:07
  of a sudden, it unlocked that that door.
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  Right?
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  I I had been given the key and was like, oh, okay.
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  This is what makes me valuable to you now.
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  And I'm fine with that.
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  I love having conversations, especially with friends like, like friends like you, Mark, and
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  being able to do this and to share a little time together is truly truly a blessing for me.
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  I gotta get you out of here, but I want you to go ahead and plug anywhere that we can find
• 27:32
  some of your music and where, people out in the Black Hills can go see you play live here soon.
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  Okay.
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  Well, I'll try to wrap it up.
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  I'm known to sometimes be a little long long on tongue, but, my stuff if you'd my name is Mark
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  Mowry.
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  A lot of the stuff that I do, I'd I've made it into Mark Mowry Music Matters.
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  And, so you can find stuff like that on YouTube.
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  There's there is a a video that got quite a bit of play on YouTube.
• 28:05
  I'm playing with a sitar player, and I'm using the d r five machine that that I mentioned
• 28:11
  earlier as the drum track.
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  Maybe there's a baseline on it too.
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  But, anyway, doing a Mississippi John Hurt song with a, North Indian, guitar player.
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  His name is Sanjeeb Sarkar.
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  And he's got lots of stuff on, YouTube as well.
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  And, there might be a little bit of Big Bang Blue stuff from the deli.
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  We'd we played at a at the international youth festival involved with the Commonwealth Games,
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  like, 25,000 people in that audience.
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  So that's the biggest crowd I've ever played to.
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  That's amazing.
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  My my music is not really in circulation, but, like, I I apparently have a YouTube channel
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  now.
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  I don't even really know how that works.
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  But that's where I do some of these song parodies.
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  Like, one of them is called, full pardon, making fun of, the full pardon that Joe Biden
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  gave to Hunter instead of
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  And everyone else.
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  Promise you a rose garden, but, my daddy's giving me a full pardon.
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  And then, also, I've got music on SoundCloud, and there are quite a few tracks.
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  Some of them even going back to that CD, which is back then, Stevie Ray Vaughan.
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  You know what?
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  I'm not gonna claim to be a Stevie Ray Vaughan player, but I am a big fan.
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  And, you know, I think he impacted some of my, you know, rock blues sound.
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  So, with just a little bit of looking, you can find out more about me that way.
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  And and I just wanna thank you for this opportunity.
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  Like I said, I'm, maybe if my phone starts ringing, I'm gonna have to give give God the
• 29:59
  glory and you a lot of credit for that, Bubba.
• 30:02
  Some something has gotten a hold of you or someone has gotten a hold of you, I'd say.
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  Well, it's definitely God, and the glory, goes there because I I didn't ever dream of this
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  until I was living it, and now it fills my dreams every night.
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  So Okay.
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  It's coming from somewhere else.
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  I've just been connected.
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  It's funny that actually my next interview is with a woman.
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  She's a MD and a doctor from India.
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  Very, very much looking forward to this.
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  And and now I have some commonality to share with her that I I had forgotten about.
• 30:40
  So, Mark Mowry, thank you so much for being a part of the scene.
• 30:44
  Most welcome, and thank you.