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HAUNTING NEW LEADS IN MISSING MOM & TOT, 2: WHERE IS JENNIFER & ADRIANNA WIX? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, haunting new leads in the
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  Speaker 1: case of a beautiful young missing mom and her two
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  Speaker 1: year old little girl. Good evening, I'm Nancy Grace. This
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  Speaker 1: is Crime Stories.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 3: Mom and daughter missing, their case classified as a homicide investigation.
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  Speaker 3: Still no suspects.
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  Speaker 2: How can that be?
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  Speaker 1: But in the last days, as I said, very chilling,
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  Speaker 1: haunting new leads have emerged in the case of this
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  Speaker 1: beautiful young mom and her taught girl, Adriana just two
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  Speaker 1: years old.
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  Speaker 2: With me an all star panal.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm trying to figure out how the whole thing started.
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  Speaker 2: Listen.
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  Speaker 4: In late March, Jennifer suddenly stops contacting her family members.
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  Speaker 4: Jennifer usually speaks with her mom at least once a
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  Speaker 4: day and is in frequent contact with other family members.
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  Speaker 4: Even more strange, Adriana too had been sick all week.
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  Speaker 4: It isn't like Jennifer to travel with a sick baby.
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  Speaker 4: After two days of no contact, Jennifer's family reports her missing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's often called routine evidence, not that it
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  Speaker 1: is routine or typical or expected, but that it is
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  Speaker 1: evidence of a certain routine, and when that routine is broken,
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  Speaker 1: it bodes ill again with me an all star panel.
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  Speaker 1: But first I'm going to go to a special guest
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  Speaker 1: joining us. This is Jennifer Wicks's sister, Adriana's aunt, Casey
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  Speaker 1: Robinson joining us. Casey, thank you for being with us
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  Speaker 1: and keeping the case alive. Casey, I'm very curious the
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  Speaker 1: smoke signals in the distance that something ill was afoot
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  Speaker 1: seemed to start. Genesis would be when she was not
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  Speaker 1: contacting your mother as she normally did. Tell me about
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  Speaker 1: their relationship and how often they contacted each other and.
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  Speaker 5: How Yeah, I mean, Jennifer was very dependent on our family,
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  Speaker 5: and she would speak to not only my mom, but
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  Speaker 5: a family member of hers on her dad's side or
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  Speaker 5: my mom's side almost every day and multiple people, so
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  Speaker 5: not just one person, but she would talk to someone
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  Speaker 5: a couple times a day, and so it was really
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  Speaker 5: odd whenever she didn't do that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that's very curious, Casey.
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  Speaker 1: Not that she was in close touchp before my mom
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  Speaker 1: moved in with me, I told to my mother and
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  Speaker 1: dad in the morning when I would be driving home
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  Speaker 1: from HLM and at night to make sure that they
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  Speaker 1: were okay. You said she was dependent. Now, very curious,
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  Speaker 1: what do you mean jan was dependent?
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  Speaker 5: She lived with a family member. She was just twenty
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  Speaker 5: one whenever she disappeared, But she lived with a family member,
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  Speaker 5: either my aunt, her grandmother, or my mom and me
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  Speaker 5: and my other sister her whole life, even after she
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  Speaker 5: had Adriana, and she did not have a steady job,
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  Speaker 5: She didn't have a vehicle, she didn't have a means
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  Speaker 5: or resource.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on just a moment, just a moment, just a moment.
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  Speaker 1: She was taking care of her baby, wasn't she. That
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  Speaker 1: sounds like a pretty steady job to me.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, yeah, I stay at home mom as a job,
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  Speaker 5: you're right, And she was a good mom. So she
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  Speaker 5: definitely took care of Adriana with the help of all
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  Speaker 5: of our family members. So she relied on everyone for childcare,
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  Speaker 5: a means to get to and from because she didn't
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  Speaker 5: have a car, she didn't have a cell phone of
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  Speaker 5: her own, a bank account. So when I say she
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  Speaker 5: was dependent, I mean she was truly stilled dependent of
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  Speaker 5: childlike still living with family.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that's really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, having given birth to twins, and when I
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  Speaker 1: got pregnant, I didn't know I was going to have twins.
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  Speaker 1: I learned much later in the pregnancy. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what I would have done without my mother and father.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they would drive up. I was in Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: at that time, at the drop of the hat, my husband,
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  Speaker 1: David's mother and father, everybody pitching in for me to
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  Speaker 1: keep working and to try to raise the twins the
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  Speaker 1: way I wanted them to be raised. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what I would have done without them. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: hearing what you're saying. I don't find that curious, but
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  Speaker 1: it is. I understand why you knew immediately, Casey, when
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  Speaker 1: no one had heard from Jennifer that something was wrong,
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  Speaker 1: so she lived with the family. She didn't have a car,
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  Speaker 1: and so she which is also not unusual, so they
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  Speaker 1: would give her rides wherever she had to go. She
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  Speaker 1: had to go to the grocery store, the pharmacy, or
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  Speaker 1: the mail, the post office is anywhere, and with a
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  Speaker 1: young child, you're going to the pharmacy. I would send
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  Speaker 1: my husband out at midnight for if we needed a
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  Speaker 1: formula or whatever we needed. And that's pretty tough.
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  Speaker 2: In the middle of New York at midnight, trying to
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  Speaker 2: find baby for mere. You did it, so I get it.
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  Speaker 2: I get it now, Wen.
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  Speaker 1: Did you first realize Hey, wait a minute, I haven't
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  Speaker 1: heard from Jennifer.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that would be on Friday in March twenty sixth
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  Speaker 5: My mom last spoke to her on Wednesday evening and
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  Speaker 5: on Friday. By that time, we were like, something's wrong
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  Speaker 5: because she would have normally contacted my mom by then,
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  Speaker 5: and she had spoken to other family members on Thursday,
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  Speaker 5: but by Friday she hadn't called. My mom told her
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  Speaker 5: that she would on their last phone call, and that
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  Speaker 5: was when we knew.
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  Speaker 1: Don't stop the videos, New York. I'm seeing the most
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  Speaker 1: incredible videos. I believe I'm looking at you when you're
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  Speaker 1: a little girl. Yeah, I'm seeing the most incredible videos
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  Speaker 1: baby Audriana, and she is beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: She's got these piercing eyes. Her eyes blue.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're very very bright blue, which is which is
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  Speaker 5: odd because Jennifer had brown eyes.
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  Speaker 6: But Adriana resembles her dad.
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  Speaker 2: You know. There she is in the hospital after giving birth.
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  Speaker 1: The bond between Jennifer and that's the one where she's, oh,
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  Speaker 1: my goodness, she I don't know if you can see
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  Speaker 1: what I'm seeing, but Adriana is just she's like a
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  Speaker 1: little angel.
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  Speaker 2: She's beautiful, like a little cherub. And what's so disturbing.
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  Speaker 1: About this case? I'm going to circle right back to you,
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  Speaker 1: Casey Robinson. Lauren Colin joining me. I'd like to keep
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  Speaker 1: the videos going because I want to keep looking at
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  Speaker 1: everything I can see and learn. Lauren Colin joining me,
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  Speaker 1: investigative reporter and host of The Outlier podcast and Primetime
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  Speaker 1: Crime on YouTube. Lauren, it's not just that Jennifer goes missing,
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  Speaker 1: Adriana goes missing too.
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  Speaker 2: That is very rare, actually, Lauren Conlin.
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  Speaker 1: If you look at statistics regarding criminal law, that a
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  Speaker 1: mother and the baby both go missing and there's no trace.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, Nancy, it's incredibly suspicious. And what's even more suspicious
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  Speaker 7: is that the family cannot exactly piece together Jennifer and
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  Speaker 7: Adriana's last days because the.
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  Speaker 8: Stories have been so conflicting.
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  Speaker 1: Two people to disappear at the same time. Joining me
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  Speaker 1: now is a special guest along with Casey Robinson. This
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  Speaker 1: is Jennifer Wicks's sister and the aunt of baby Adriana.
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  Speaker 1: Buddy Mitchell is with us now number one. He is
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  Speaker 1: the Wicks fan only private investigator with ABC Investigative Services.
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  Speaker 2: But for my purposes.
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  Speaker 1: This guy thirty four years on Nashville PD rising to sergeant.
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  Speaker 1: That's not easy. And I can tell you in Nashville
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  Speaker 1: you've seen it all, Buddy Mitchell. I've had a lot
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  Speaker 1: of kidnappings. I've prosecuted them, i've investigated them, I've covered them.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't see two people getting kidnapped at the
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  Speaker 1: same time very often.
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  Speaker 2: That's rare, and there's a reason I'm pointing this out.
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  Speaker 1: What do you make of two people getting kidnapped at
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  Speaker 1: the same time.
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  Speaker 9: Well, it's hard to wrap your head around. First of all,
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  Speaker 9: it was put all put down as a runaway that
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  Speaker 9: she just left, which I find that was a little alarming.
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  Speaker 9: She would not leave her the baby stuff at the
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  Speaker 9: house and the car seat.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on just a second.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to write down everything you're saying, because, Buddy Mitchell,
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  Speaker 1: right off the bat, that's an incredible insight. Now it
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  Speaker 1: may seem like everybody's going yeah, of course, but you.
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  Speaker 2: May have overlooked that.
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  Speaker 1: And it's really important because Jeff Klishevski joining me, a
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  Speaker 1: forensic psychologist, author of Dark Sides.
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  Speaker 2: You can find them on YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Jeff Klishevski forensic psychologist doctor Jeff. When I would
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  Speaker 1: fly home to Atlanta and then get in the car
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  Speaker 1: it was an SUV and pack it full of stuff
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  Speaker 1: to take the twins to make it where my parents
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  Speaker 1: were living. You could hardly even look out the rear
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  Speaker 1: view mirror because it was packed up to the top.
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  Speaker 2: Two car seats, two baby beds.
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  Speaker 1: The whole thing, the bottle warmer, the this that you
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  Speaker 1: want to tell me that this mom just takes off,
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  Speaker 1: what puts her baby in a backpack and leaves by foot, didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Have a car.
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  Speaker 1: That's total be as And I've had it with local
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  Speaker 1: law enforcement. Whenever a woman goes missing out, she's not
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  Speaker 1: with her boyfriend.
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  Speaker 2: What boyfriend? She's having some me time. That's not what happened.
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  Speaker 2: Why does this keep happening over and over? Run Away?
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  Speaker 2: She's not a runaway, right?
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  Speaker 10: You know you mentioned earlier about the idea about people
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  Speaker 10: have their routines and the loved ones close to them
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  Speaker 10: know their routines. And if part of her m O
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  Speaker 10: and her routine in her history is not running away,
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  Speaker 10: not neglecting her baby, the idea that she would leave
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  Speaker 10: and leave all these things behind and run away just
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  Speaker 10: doesn't make sense. You wonder, is that the people investigating
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  Speaker 10: or asking the questions just wanting easy out to move
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  Speaker 10: on from this.
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  Speaker 1: Thinking every through everything back to you, Casey Robinson, this.
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  Speaker 2: Is Jennifer's sister.
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  Speaker 1: When you first realized you hadn't heard from Jennifer, what went.
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  Speaker 2: Through your mind? Did you ever think, Oh, she's just.
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  Speaker 1: On a walk about, she's with her other boyfriend nonexistent,
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  Speaker 1: she ran away without one bottle of formula, without one
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  Speaker 1: baby sought nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Did that ever crossed your mind?
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  Speaker 6: No, not once. Adriana was Jennifer's life.
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  Speaker 5: I mean that was literally all that she had to
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  Speaker 5: do in life at that point in time. So I
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  Speaker 5: mean that would have been all that she thought about,
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  Speaker 5: all that she cared about. She wouldn't have left without
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  Speaker 5: any of their things, the baby's stuffed Elmo, that she
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  Speaker 5: couldn't go to sleep without things like that. That a
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  Speaker 5: mother like you mentioned before, she wouldn't leave. But no,
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  Speaker 5: that never crossed my mind.
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  Speaker 10: Not once.
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  Speaker 5: Also, my sister and I were very close, so she
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  Speaker 5: cared for me as kind of like a motherlike figure.
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  Speaker 5: There's no way in the world she would have just
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  Speaker 5: left without I don't want to say telling me if
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  Speaker 5: she had plans to leave, but like, it wasn't character
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  Speaker 5: of her to just run off, and she cared so
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  Speaker 5: much and had big feelings and big emotions for the
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  Speaker 5: people she loved, and we were very close.
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  Speaker 6: She wouldn't do it.
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  Speaker 1: So, Casey Robinson, when you and your family realize you
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen her, you can't find her. Did you believe
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  Speaker 1: what the cops said that she quote ran away end quote?
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  Speaker 2: What did you do to try to find her?
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  Speaker 11: No?
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  Speaker 5: Immediately, myself, my whole family, my mom, we knew something
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  Speaker 5: was wrong, something wasn't right.
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  Speaker 6: This was out of character for Jennifer.
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  Speaker 5: So we just started driving around looking for her around town,
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  Speaker 5: calling all of her friends, calling all of our family members,
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  Speaker 5: calling the people she was living with. We just really
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  Speaker 5: started looking for her because she had to be somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: What did police tell you? Local law enforcement tell you
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  Speaker 2: at the get go, Casey.
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  Speaker 5: I'm at first they said that she potentially just needed
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  Speaker 5: a break, that she just needed to take some time
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  Speaker 5: for herself, and that she would be back.
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  Speaker 1: The police actually said to you, she needed a break.
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  Speaker 1: They said that I can't believe this, Actually I can't
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  Speaker 1: believe it. That doesn't make it any better. What did
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  Speaker 1: you say back to that she needed a break.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we said that's just not true. There's something wrong.
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  Speaker 5: She dealt with all of her issues had on. We
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  Speaker 5: had never seen her just run away from anything. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: we just didn't believe what they were saying, and we
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  Speaker 5: just knew something was wrong.
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  Speaker 2: So what did you tell them when they said that?
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  Speaker 2: What was your response?
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  Speaker 5: And we said, we need you to go to where
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  Speaker 5: she's living. We need you to go there. Something wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Did they do it?
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  Speaker 5: They did, Yes, they sent some deputies over to the
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  Speaker 5: residence where she was living at a time.
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  Speaker 4: In late March, Jennifer suddenly stops contacting her family members.
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  Speaker 4: Jennifer usually speaks with her mom at least once a
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  Speaker 4: day and is in frequent contact with other family members.
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  Speaker 4: Even more strange, Adriana too had been sick all week.
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  Speaker 4: It isn't like Jennifer to travel with a sick baby.
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  Speaker 4: After two days of no contact, Jennifer's family reports her missing.
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  Speaker 3: Oh worry family desperately searching for a missing mom and
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  Speaker 3: daughter who disappeared from their home.
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  Speaker 12: The Robertson County Sheriff's Office starts at the home Jennifer
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  Speaker 12: shares with boyfriend Joey Benn and his parents, Joe and
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  Speaker 12: Cynthia Benn. Nothing seems out of place on the property,
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  Speaker 12: and foots are just turned up. No sign of Jennifer
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  Speaker 12: and Adriana. Deputies follow up on several possible sidings of
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  Speaker 12: the mom and daughter, but the sightings either can't be
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  Speaker 12: verified or turn out to be someone else. Through interviews,
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  Speaker 12: deputies find Joey Bnnon is the last person to see
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  Speaker 12: Jennifer and Adriana.
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about those sidings too, Lauren Colin,
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  Speaker 1: joining us, host of Primetime Crime on YouTube. What about
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  Speaker 1: the sidings?
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  Speaker 7: The sightings turned out to be completely bogused. There were
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  Speaker 7: reports that Jennifer and Adriana were at a grocery store
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  Speaker 7: at a gas station.
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  Speaker 8: Those turned out to be not true.
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  Speaker 1: Casey Robinson, do you remember getting the news that there
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  Speaker 1: had been a siding of your sister, maybe Adriana.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we remember for hearing that initially that they had
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  Speaker 5: went to the local grocery store and went to the
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  Speaker 5: local gas station there in cross Planes, But again we
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  Speaker 5: didn't know that for certain, so we were just asking
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  Speaker 5: law enforcement to follow up on, to follow up on
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  Speaker 5: those sightings and to corroborate it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Casey, you just mentioned Sightings and cross Plaine, Tennessee.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's my understanding there's a very low population of less.
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  Speaker 2: Than two thousand people in cross Plaines. Is that right,
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  Speaker 2: Lauren Colin?
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  Speaker 7: Yet, ma'am, the population was about thirteen hundred people now
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  Speaker 7: in twenty twenty four?
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  Speaker 8: Is it closer to two thousand?
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  Speaker 2: Just thinking through whether that helps or hurts?
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  Speaker 1: Joining me being the Powers high profile lawyer out of Tennessee.
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  Speaker 1: He is at legalpowers dot com. Ben, thank you for
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  Speaker 1: being with us. And the reason I'm asking about the
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  Speaker 1: population is because to deduce what may have happened when
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  Speaker 1: you've got a giant population. I just recently was investigating
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  Speaker 1: a body that was found a young girl's body in
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  Speaker 1: a trash bag, actually on the side of the street,
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  Speaker 1: a sidewalk in New York.
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  Speaker 2: That could have been anybody. There's millions of inhabitants. But
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  Speaker 2: when you have a town.
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  Speaker 1: As small as this two thousand, I mean I grew
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  Speaker 1: up in an area that wasn't even a town, it
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  Speaker 1: was unincorporated, that vastly reduces your suspect pool.
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  Speaker 10: It does.
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  Speaker 13: It's a small community, it's tight knit and cross planes
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  Speaker 13: and so with that small of a community, you're going
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  Speaker 13: to notice people that are not part of that community regularly,
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  Speaker 13: so you'll notice an outsider that's come in. But you're
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  Speaker 13: also going to know about each other's business. Because a
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  Speaker 13: lot of cross planes and small communities, it's very family oriented.
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  Speaker 13: Larger families, you know, where moms, dads, cousins, aunts, uncles,
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  Speaker 13: grandparents all live together and they're friends with other family unlis,
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  Speaker 13: they're equally large, So everyone looks out for each other,
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  Speaker 13: everyone's into everyone else's business. And so with that's small
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  Speaker 13: of a pool of a populace, it does provide a
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  Speaker 13: short list of possible suspects when someone goes missing from
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  Speaker 13: that community, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, and I understand it's just a little over eight miles,
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  Speaker 1: eight miles.
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  Speaker 2: In all, eight point three square miles.
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  Speaker 1: That also reduces the territory the land that law enforcement
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  Speaker 1: has to cover. Of course, someone that took her and
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  Speaker 1: or killed her could easily drive past that and get
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  Speaker 1: rid of a body, destroyed the body, bury the body,
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  Speaker 1: burn the body, but it does give a smaller frame
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  Speaker 1: of search.
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  Speaker 2: So we've got that going on as well. Now we
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  Speaker 2: also learn.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, the grocery store siding no good, the gas
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  Speaker 1: station siding.
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  Speaker 2: No good.
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  Speaker 1: So where is not only Jennifer, but she's got baby
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  Speaker 1: Adriana in two How.
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  Speaker 2: Easy is it to just disappear on your own?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you could take a bus, a
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  Speaker 1: bus route. That would be hard to do. She doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have a car, there's no metro, there would be a
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  Speaker 1: record of a taxi.
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  Speaker 2: None of that happened. So where is she now?
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  Speaker 1: We know that she was last sighted by the boyfriend Benton.
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  Speaker 2: Listen.
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  Speaker 4: Joey Benton tells Robertson County Sheriffs that he last saw
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  Speaker 4: Jennifer and Adriana at their home on owens Chapel Road
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  Speaker 4: two days ago around nine thirty pm. Benton says, someone
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  Speaker 4: driving a white four door Sedan picks Jennifer and Adriana
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  Speaker 4: up and he hasn't heard from her again. Benton can't
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: say who was driving the car or what kind of
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: car it was.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I want to analyz that just in itself. Heytails Robertson
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: County Sheriffs, he saw her at home.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Owens Chapel Road two days before. Let me just start
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: with that two days before. Right there.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I've got a problem, Casey Robinson joining us. This is
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Jennifer's sister number one, They go to him. He doesn't
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: call anybody and say, hey, where's Jennifer? Have you seen Jennifer?
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Where's the baby? He doesn't go to police, he doesn't
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: contact mom, he doesn't contact you, nobody. Two days, two days.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: If I had not seen my husband in two days,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I'd be standing on my head. I would have called
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: police after five hours, not knowing where he was, not
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: just singing, but not knowing where he was. No, right there,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I've got a problem. But in his defense, didn't.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: He say Casey that they were having a tiff.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he said that they were having an argument that evening.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: So Casey, in the past, was there ever an incident
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: where she had had an argument and that's common when
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: you've got a baby, in the stress of raising the baby,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: all that where she had left the home with Benton
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: and come back and not gone back to benchon.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, had that happened before?
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: Yes, a couple months prior to this.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, be in powers.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: You see where I'm going with this high profile defense
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: attorney like yourself can make a lot of hay with that.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: He would argue that, well, this wasn't unusual whenever they
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: have a fight, she goes home to Mommy.
• 20:20
  Speaker 13: Yeah, the past relationship and the history of it where
• 20:24
  Speaker 13: there's some kind of dust stop that leads to her
• 20:26
  Speaker 13: leaving and going to some other location to reside, seems
• 20:31
  Speaker 13: to be a basis to say this was more normal
• 20:34
  Speaker 13: than unnormal that after an argument she would go somewhere else.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: But on the other hand, see, this is the way
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: you win a case.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: You figure out what they're going to say, and then
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: you figure a way to destroy what they're going to say.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: All right, that may be true Casey Robinson that she
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: had left where she lived with the boyfriend Benton, that
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: she had left before and come home to mom but
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: he didn't even call and ask about her. After two days,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: authorities had to go to him. And then he goes, yeah,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I hadn't seen him in two days. He didn't even call.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Is that normal, Casey.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: No, it's not normal at all. The first time that
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: it happened because they ran a short relationship, it was
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: very short. The first time that it happened, they stayed
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: in contact with each other. He kept trying to get
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: her back, and so no, that's not character for that situation.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: March Jennifer suddenly stops contacting her family members. Jennifer usually
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: speaks with her mom at least once a day and
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: is in frequent contact with other family members. Even more strange,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Adriana too had been sick all week. It isn't like
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Jennifer to travel with a sick baby. After two days
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: of no contact, Jennifer's family reports her missing.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Where is young mom Jennifer Wicks and her baby girl Adriana?
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Now we know that they live in the boyfriend Benton
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: stated they had an argument about where they were going
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: to live two days before, and he hadn't called to
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: check on the baby or her in the last two days. Curious,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: he gave a story, but then he elaborates.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 22:12
  Speaker 11: Benton says he picked Jennifer and Adriana up and they
• 22:15
  Speaker 11: drove around town, having a conversation about their tense living arrangements.
• 22:19
  Speaker 11: That conversation turned into an argument. Jennifer ended their relationship
• 22:22
  Speaker 11: and refused to return to their home, so Benton dropped
• 22:25
  Speaker 11: her off at a gas station in Cross Plains around
• 22:28
  Speaker 11: nine thirty pm. Benton claims he watched Jennifer from a
• 22:31
  Speaker 11: church parking lot across the street for ten minutes before
• 22:34
  Speaker 11: someone driving a white four door sedan picked Jennifer and
• 22:37
  Speaker 11: Adriana up.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, Lauren Colin joining me, investigative reporter and star of
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Primetime crime on YouTube. Okay, Lauren, give me that again,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: very slowly. Now. At first he states that she left
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: in a white four door Sedan, but then he elaborates
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: didn't necessarily change the story, but did add some facts.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Explain to me what he said.
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: Yes, so, Joey claimed that first he brought her to
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: a grocery store to use the phone, and then Jennifer
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: asked if he could bring her and Adriana to this
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: gas station where some friends were going to pick them up.
• 23:15
  Speaker 8: He says, he drives to the church parking lot.
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: He waits about ten minutes, and actually his story was
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: that he saw them get into a white four door Mustang,
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: which we later.
• 23:26
  Speaker 8: Finds out it doesn't exist. A four door white Mustang
• 23:29
  Speaker 8: does not exist.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: You know, I can't stress how important car makes and
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: models can be. For instance, in the case of Rex Humerman,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: the accused Long Island serial killer, multiple witnesses point out
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: they see the victims leaving with a giant of a
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: man and a Chevy Avalanche, which was no longer made
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: since about twenty thirteen, I believe, years later, when bodies
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: are starting to be discovered along Gilgo Beach. What's in
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: his driveway the avalanche?
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: If that had been followed.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Up on at the time, maybe some lives that could
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: have been saved. Let's see, what's another one. Oh, here's
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: a great one. Coburger, coburger. Remember, the whole way he
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: ends up getting arrested is because a white Elantra is
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: seen and he drives a white Elantra.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, it goes on and on and on.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: How cars, vehicles connect back to solving a case.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Now, in this.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Case, it's really curious, Lauren Colin that he gives the
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: specificity of a four door white Mustang, and there's.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: No such thing as a four door Mustang.
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: No, there's not.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Now, no one has been named as a suspect in
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: this case, much less a defendant.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: But you know, when.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: People add details to their story, the devil is in
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: the details.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: A four door Mustang.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Later that story is a white four door Sedan picked
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: up Jennifer and Adriana. So Casey Robinson, this is Jennifer's sister.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: When you first heard that story about your sister, And
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: he didn't tell you himself, I don't think.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Didn't he tell the police that?
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: Yes, he told that to the police.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Did he ever tell you what happened?
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: He told my older sister, So she was in between
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: Jennifer and I in age, and my sister actually got
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: in contact with them, and he said that they had
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: broken up and he dropped her off at this gas station.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: But he didn't go into detail about the car with us, No,
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: just law enforcement.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I mean you'd think doctor Jeff Kelschewsky that when the
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: baby and the mommy are both gone, that every detail
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: would matter. And Casey's telling us, Yeah, he didn't say
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: anything about our getting picked up. I mean, they're trying
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: to find her. And he didn't mention anything about the
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: white sedan nothing.
• 26:03
  Speaker 10: Yeah. I think there's a couple of things here. First
• 26:05
  Speaker 10: of all, when you approach this from an investigative angle,
• 26:09
  Speaker 10: you think, what would people reasonably do? You know, just
• 26:12
  Speaker 10: the idea that he never called to report them missing
• 26:16
  Speaker 10: or where the whereabouts were for a couple of days,
• 26:18
  Speaker 10: that's not what a reasonable person would do. Another thing,
• 26:20
  Speaker 10: this guy just breaks up with his girlfriend, probably pretty emotional.
• 26:24
  Speaker 10: He drops her off, she gets into a strange car,
• 26:28
  Speaker 10: and he doesn't he's not interested in who she's going
• 26:30
  Speaker 10: away with, so you know, what would a reasonable person do.
• 26:35
  Speaker 10: The other part, too, is if a person's not being
• 26:38
  Speaker 10: entirely truthful and they haven't really planned out what their
• 26:43
  Speaker 10: report is going to be, they blurt things out and
• 26:46
  Speaker 10: then they try to either embellish if it's a falsehood,
• 26:50
  Speaker 10: or they try to provide details, sometimes losing track of
• 26:55
  Speaker 10: what their concocted story is because they hadn't planned it
• 26:58
  Speaker 10: out yet, and that's where they make mistakes, and that's
• 27:00
  Speaker 10: why the devil's in the details for sure.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: And then there's more. Listen.
• 27:05
  Speaker 12: Ben says the next day, Jennifer returned to their home
• 27:07
  Speaker 12: without Adriana, driving the same white car that picked her
• 27:10
  Speaker 12: up the night before. Bennen says Jennifer collected some of
• 27:13
  Speaker 12: her belongings and wanted her tax return money, which had
• 27:16
  Speaker 12: been deposited into Joey's parents' account. Joey says his parents
• 27:20
  Speaker 12: weren't home, so Jennifer planned to return for the money later.
• 27:23
  Speaker 12: Benton says this is the last time he saw on Jennifer.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: And then we learn about an intense argument in the
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Benton home listen.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Jennifer told family members Benton's parents were upset by Adriana's
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: constant crying while the toddler was sick, and they had
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: a blowout argument during dinner.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: My mom talked to her on Wednesday night, but apparently
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: there had been a lot of arguing and fighting with
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: the family that night. His family the baby had been
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: crying a lot. I don't know what they could have
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: been fighting about. Jennifer didn't go into a lot of detail,
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: but she just said like his mom had like thrown
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: their dinner out the back door onto the ground until
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: her to go and get it. She better hurry and
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: get it before the dogs do just like a bunch
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: of like really mean, nasty things. So Jennifer was in
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: the room, my mom could hear the baby crying. So
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: my mom asked her, like after they talked about the
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: fighting and everything, like let me come get y'all and
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: like we're not that far, you know, twenty minute drive maybe,
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: And Jennifer's like, no, it's okay, Mom, Like I can
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: handle this. Joey and I we're gonna go on a
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: picnic tomorrow. We're gonna talk about everything. Because she wanted
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: to move out of their house. Mom said, Okay, call
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: me tomorrow, let me know how everything goes.
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: Well, she never did. She never called my mom.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: So Casey Robinson, Jennifer's sister, there was a lot of
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: trouble brewing in the bench and home the night before
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: she goes missing.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the family was fighting. Everything had been tense for
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: that entire week. There were some events leading up to
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: that argument on Wednesday, March twenty fourth, and Jennifer had
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: gotten into an argument with Joey's mom and she was
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: throwing their food out like I mentioned in that video
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: and talking about how she's an unfit mother, and Jennifer
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: just wanted to move out.
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: Of this house, and Joey wasn't listening.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Bottom line, she didn't have a car.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: She couldn't just crank up and drive away, but everyone
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: wanted her to come home.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: Jennifer made a couple of phone calls that day, So
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: she made one phone call to my aunt and one
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: phone call to her dad, and both phone calls they
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: both talked about like the fight from the night prior
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: that she had had with his parents, and my aunt
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: had left her a key outside and they had talked
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: about like well, if things get crazy, you know, you
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: can come here. Okay, So there was her plan.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: I'll call you tomorrow. I love you, the last words
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: a mother hears from her daughter as her granddaughter wales
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: in the background to.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Casey Robinson, that has always been of the story all
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: this time, since Jennifer and Adriana missing. In the last days,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: you have a conversation with Benton.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: What happened.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: We had a conversation recently with him, and we hadn't
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: talked to him in twenty years, and I reached out
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: to him and just said, hey, can we talk and
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: he said sure, and so we jumped on a phone conversation.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: We talked for about an hour and he stuck to
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: the gas station story. I asked him, did that really happen?
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: Is that true?
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: And he said, yes, that's all true. I took her there,
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: I did what she asked me to do, and we
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: talked a little bit about their relationship and how I
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: just wanted to talk more about her and learn more
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: about her because I was so young. Then he said
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: he'd be willing to talk to me anytime. He said,
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: call me anytime after seven o'clock. And that was the
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: first conversation that I had with him, and I've had two.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: What happened next, well.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: What happened next is is we had some meetings set
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: up with local law enforcement and our District attorney's offices
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: here in Robertson County, and I had let Joey know
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: that on that first phone conversation and also social media,
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: so he knew that we had these meetings coming up,
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: and he actually visited the District Attorney's office on the
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: same day that we had our.
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: Meeting, so our meeting was cut short.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: He came in and we learned from him directly that
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: he came there to tell them everything. And it wasn't
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: until maybe like a month or two later that my
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: mom sat down with him for the first time in
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: twenty years.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: An astonishing development in the search of a missing mom
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: and her baby girl. To you, Buddy Mitchell, joining us
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: a Wick's family private investigator, former and national PD thirty
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: four years Buddy, what other evidence is there? And of
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: course no one has been named to suspect. No one
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: has been named to suspect at all in this case.
• 32:32
  Speaker 9: A very important uh, and you're talking about details in
• 32:36
  Speaker 9: this case is the car seat, he said, the car
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: seat was when she took the car seat and the
• 32:45
  Speaker 9: baby and got into the four door car. And two
• 32:49
  Speaker 9: days later the first officer that went to check on
• 32:52
  Speaker 9: him put in his report and that the car seat
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: within the living room, so that couldn't be in the
• 32:59
  Speaker 9: living room if they took it to the car. And
• 33:05
  Speaker 9: he asked the person to Joy Bitten how many car
• 33:09
  Speaker 9: seats they had. She said he told them only the one.
• 33:13
  Speaker 9: So the car seat is still in the living room.
• 33:15
  Speaker 9: So I think that's a very important part of the evidence.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: So at this point, so much forensic evidence is gone.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: So bottom line, you've got to either have another witness.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: You don't have to have a body, but you have
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: to have at least another witness. You've got to catch
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: him in conflicting statements if.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: They even exist.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Again, he's not charged, so there's going to have to
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: be a corroborating witness. One of the other alleged purpose
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: is going to have to crack, or they've got to.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Find the body. Bottom line, Buddy Mitchell.
• 33:53
  Speaker 9: That's exactly right. And we have looked several places for
• 33:58
  Speaker 9: the body. How was there when the mother met with
• 34:03
  Speaker 9: Joy We was like five feet away, heard the whole conversation.
• 34:10
  Speaker 9: There is, like Casey said, a lot of important information
• 34:15
  Speaker 9: that we cannot give out now because the police and
• 34:18
  Speaker 9: DA asked that's not too but there is details that
• 34:22
  Speaker 9: would lead to a conviction.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I believe details well.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I know there are not anything forensic because it's too
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: late to use doing all at the home or anything
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: that's absolutely correct. So I can deduce that you're referring
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: to a corroborating witness that saw something or can confess
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: to something.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Can you at least tell me that much it is.
• 34:44
  Speaker 9: Other witnesses, And I think we can find the bodies.
• 34:50
  Speaker 9: If it might take a little time, but we can
• 34:53
  Speaker 9: find the bodies.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: And another thing, even if the killer discussed what happened
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: with someone else, that can come into evidence.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: If you're talking.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: About what the defendant said and the defendant is there
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: that that's not going to be subject to a Hear'Say
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: rule objection. So if it was discussed amongst other people,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: if they bragged about it or talked about it, or
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: got someone to.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Help bury the body, all of that.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Can prove the case without the actual body. But for
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: some reason, buddy, you feel convinced you'll find the remains.
• 35:33
  Speaker 9: Yes, and I can promise you, myself and the Wicks
• 35:36
  Speaker 9: family will never give up until we find the bodies
• 35:41
  Speaker 9: and have closure. In this case, I promise you that
• 35:45
  Speaker 9: we will never ever give up.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: You know, taking an adult is bad enough an unarmed
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: young mom, but the baby too. To kill the baby
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: two case you rob, This is Jennifer's sister, Adriana's aunt
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: has never let go of this case. You're not telling me,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: and I understand that, and I actually applaud that.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I don't want to hurt the investigation in any way.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: I think that just the dynamics of their family and
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: how things are playing out. That's typically in cold cases
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: and longer term cases, how you know, cases are solved.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: It takes time and someone turning on the other person.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: I definitely think that's going to happen. And there's never been,
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: you know, a full thorough search of their property the
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: last place that they were seeing. So that's something that
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: we're pushing for. I think that law enforcement and the
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: DA are working on. And yeah, he's right, we'll never
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: give up most of our evidence as circumstantial, but I
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: know that there are cases built around circumstantial evidence. But
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: I think with everything that we have and if law
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: enforcement and we continue working on it, we can definitely
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: solve fine Jennifer and Adriana.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Again, let me say that there are no formal defendants
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: or suspects named in this case and we are waiting.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: For justice to rain down like water. Nancy Grace signing off,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: good night friend,