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Full Show Podcast: 16 September 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues the interviews and the insight ryan bridge on
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  Speaker 1: early edition with spark for business technology that keeps business
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  Speaker 1: moving news talks good morning.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to wednesday at six after five great to have
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  Speaker 2: your company tom phillips do we really need another deep
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  Speaker 2: dive into this the uk russia's testing its neighbors again
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  Speaker 2: the minimum wage freeze we'll take a look at that
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  Speaker 2: we'll look at fast track and we've got global dairy
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  Speaker 2: trade result for you it's flat we'll have the numbers
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  Speaker 2: The agenda. Wednesday the 16th of September, let's go to
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  Speaker 2: the UK. Baby killer Lucy Letby, there's been an inquiry,
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  Speaker 2: reckons that three babies could have been saved if the
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  Speaker 2: hospitals had done more.
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  Speaker 3: Errors were made by nurses, doctors and managers at the
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  Speaker 3: time of these events. Looking for clinical or other explanations
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  Speaker 3: for deaths and collapses was not wrong. But once there
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  Speaker 3: was suspicion that Letby may be causing harm deliberately, safeguarding
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  Speaker 3: steps were taken. should have been taken.
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  Speaker 2: Quite similar to the Tom Phillips inquiry that we've just
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  Speaker 2: heard about, you know, you have either a killer or
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  Speaker 2: you have a nut bar and then you have a
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  Speaker 2: whole bunch of agencies after the fact trying to say, well,
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  Speaker 2: we should have done this, we should have done that.
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  Speaker 2: They reckon they're going to put now live streaming cameras
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  Speaker 2: in baby wards in the UK.
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  Speaker 4: I have asked my officials to urgently develop plans for
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  Speaker 4: cot cams, which can also help parents and feel better
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  Speaker 4: connected to their babies when they aren't able to be
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  Speaker 4: with them in person. The inquiry says the sudden unexpected
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  Speaker 4: death in infancy and childhood guidance must be updated.
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  Speaker 5: I agree.
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  Speaker 2: That is now underway. Right, we'll stay in Europe. Russians
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  Speaker 2: appear to be at it again. NATO fighter jets shot
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  Speaker 2: down a drone over Lithuania. Authorities say it likely came
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  Speaker 2: from Putin's mates in Belarus. Denmark's accusing a Russian warship
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  Speaker 2: of firing flares at one of its choppers. There's sabotage
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  Speaker 2: on train tracks in the Netherlands. Here's Poland's foreign minister.
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  Speaker 6: We seek no conflict with Russia. We are a purely
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  Speaker 6: defensive alliance, and I think I make that clear. But
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  Speaker 6: we can't pretend we are not seeing what Russia is doing,
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  Speaker 6: first of all to Ukraine and then to ourselves. We
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  Speaker 6: found a drone literally yesterday that was washed up on
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  Speaker 6: our shore. We think it was some kind of lost
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  Speaker 6: drone in an exercise.
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  Speaker 2: We're still... working on it.
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  Speaker 6: But these are not actions of a responsible part.
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  Speaker 2: Right, let's go to the US. The Supreme Court's given
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  Speaker 2: an eh to Trump's plan to restrict mail-in voting ahead
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  Speaker 2: of the midterms in November.
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  Speaker 7: He said that the Supreme Court has really let our
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  Speaker 7: country down. He said certain justices are petrified of these
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  Speaker 7: crazed and depraved Democrats and are totally unable to show
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  Speaker 7: the courage necessary to save our America. And he really
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  Speaker 7: singled out the three justices that he himself appointed to
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  Speaker 7: the Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the federal government would have had more say over
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  Speaker 2: who could vote by mail. The justices said basically there's
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  Speaker 2: not enough time to bring in the new rules. Hear
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  Speaker 2: it first.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge on early edition with Spark for Business. Technology
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  Speaker 1: that keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. 9292 is the number to text. We'd love
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  Speaker 2: to hear from you this morning. I spoke to Chris
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  Speaker 2: Bishop yesterday. He said that, you know, the government's LNG decision,
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  Speaker 2: which they haven't actually made or locked in yet. They
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  Speaker 2: haven't signed any contracts. And remember, we are fast approaching
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  Speaker 2: the election, but this is the LNG terminal in Taranaki.
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  Speaker 2: Haven't signed any contracts anyway. Chris Bishop yesterday said... that
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  Speaker 2: the LNG terminal, the mere mention of it and what
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  Speaker 2: it would do to the dry year risk, i.e. fill
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  Speaker 2: the gap, has helped to bring down electricity, wholesale electricity prices. Now,
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  Speaker 2: that's a coin toss. You know, it could be that
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  Speaker 2: we're doing more renewables. That's what some people in the
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  Speaker 2: industry have told me. Anyway, there is no doubt that
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  Speaker 2: wholesale prices are down this year on last. OK, so
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  Speaker 2: that's a good thing. But if part of the reason
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  Speaker 2: is LNG, then you'd better hope they're going to go
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  Speaker 2: ahead and do the LNG. And that is not a
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  Speaker 2: done deal. That is not a sure thing. Shane Jones
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  Speaker 2: has signalled that his mind is not yet actually made
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  Speaker 2: up on LNG. Of course, we've had Methanex and the
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  Speaker 2: closure that will increase supply of gas. Does that buy
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  Speaker 2: them some time to sit on their hands and twiddle
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  Speaker 2: their thumbs for a while longer? The hope was the
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  Speaker 2: terminal would be in place by the winter of 2028. Apparently,
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  Speaker 2: there are two bidders shortlisted. both of which want to
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  Speaker 2: put the terminal at the port of Taranaki. And the
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  Speaker 2: ministers apparently haven't yet said which of those they prefer,
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  Speaker 2: but also haven't yet apparently given the go-ahead or even
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  Speaker 2: the green light to the whole thing happening at all.
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  Speaker 2: So where are we at with LNG? With 52 days
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  Speaker 2: to go until the election, we're still actually no clearer.
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  Speaker 2: Ten after five. Asset sales... This is another interesting one.
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  Speaker 2: So we had National making noises about asset sales or
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  Speaker 2: asset recycling, whatever you want to call it. You know,
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  Speaker 2: why do we own MetService? Why do we own Cordia?
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  Speaker 2: Why do we own TVNZ? Do we need our stakes
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  Speaker 2: in Meridian and Mercury and in Genesis, the gen tailors?
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  Speaker 2: We have this government, I should say, or we, the people,
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  Speaker 2: $ 100 billion worth of commercial assets. And then we've got
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  Speaker 2: about almost $ 500 billion worth of physical and financial assets,
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  Speaker 2: that stuff that's held by ACC, the Superfund, all that
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  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. But with the commercial assets, do we
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  Speaker 2: need to own them? David Seymour says that Treasury has
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  Speaker 2: advised there's a dozen we don't need to own, and
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  Speaker 2: yet National has said that they're not going to move
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  Speaker 2: on asset sales. So what gives? 11 after 5, Newstalk ZB,
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  Speaker 2: back after this.
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  Speaker 1: The early edition Paul's Show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered by
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  Speaker 1: Newstalk ZB. Before the news breaks, here at first, Ryan
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  Speaker 1: Bridge on early edition with Spark for Business, technology that
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  Speaker 1: keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. 5.13 Newstalk ZB. This texter says, Ryan, when
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  Speaker 2: is the cut-off date for the government signing off on policy,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera, before the election? They really need to get
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  Speaker 2: on with this. This is reality. Well, there's sort of
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  Speaker 2: a three-month period where you're– not a caretaker government, that's
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  Speaker 2: more what happens afterwards, but where you shouldn't do anything major,
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  Speaker 2: nothing to rock the boat, and signing a contract committing
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  Speaker 2: the Crown to go ahead with an LNG import terminal
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  Speaker 2: would probably fall within the bounds of that. So you'd
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  Speaker 2: want to probably already have it done. They can still
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  Speaker 2: sign something. Remember, Labour doesn't want the LNG terminal, so
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  Speaker 2: that complicates it. However, saying all of that, it could
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  Speaker 2: still be done. This side of the election is the
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  Speaker 2: blunt answer for you. 14 after 5. Fast change has
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  Speaker 2: been made to the laws that will affect fast-track developments.
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  Speaker 2: Councils will now be allowed to claw back some of
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  Speaker 2: the cost of the infrastructure from developers. The councils still
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  Speaker 2: want more. You could say the government's listening, but I
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  Speaker 2: think it's... It's trying to make something good out of
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  Speaker 2: something that's not great.
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  Speaker 1: Look, we're really happy to see they're listening.
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  Speaker 8: But look, that was a half.
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  Speaker 2: A billion dollar mistake that we can't claim back. Bruce,
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  Speaker 2: we're independent urban planners with us this morning. Bruce, good morning.
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  Speaker 5: Good morning, Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: So how much of what the councils will have to
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  Speaker 2: be stumping up with are the developers going to have
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  Speaker 2: to pay for? Is that what the councils are saying?
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  Speaker 2: Not enough?
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  Speaker 5: Not enough.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, look, I think there's some case to say for
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  Speaker 9: councils that clawing back some DCs would go, you know,
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  Speaker 9: would be a positive thing. But, you know, you've got
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  Speaker 9: to be so careful with this, you know, with the developments.
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  Speaker 9: You don't want to discourage them. I know it sounds
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  Speaker 9: like every developer makes a ton of money, but it
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  Speaker 9: is really hard work to get development through. And you
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  Speaker 9: don't want to... discourage people doing innovative, out-of-the-box solutions for
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  Speaker 9: urban growth.
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  Speaker 2: Like shipping people's effluent from housing development north of Auckland.
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  Speaker 9: Well, you know, like you've got to follow the money.
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  Speaker 9: And look, we blow a lot of money within councils
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  Speaker 9: on infrastructure and engineering runs, right? And we're looking for
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  Speaker 9: innovative solutions. You've got to get more for less. You've
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  Speaker 9: got to get greater efficiency and all these things. And
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  Speaker 9: I think the fast-tracking pathway provides that opportunity to take
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  Speaker 9: slightly different tacks. There's been problems in the past, but
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  Speaker 9: at the end of the day, there are good engineering solutions.
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  Speaker 9: There's great engineering fraternity out there who know how to
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  Speaker 9: deliver infrastructure more efficiently and On private lots, you get
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  Speaker 9: bogged into the council government system and the costs blow
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  Speaker 9: out pretty rapidly.
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  Speaker 2: Bruce, if you're a developer listening to this and you go, oh,
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  Speaker 2: fast track, that sounds great. And then you have government
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  Speaker 2: change to fast track, which means we could be paying
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  Speaker 2: more for infrastructure. And then you've got council saying we
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  Speaker 2: want more pressure on government to do more. What does
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  Speaker 2: that do to your decision making?
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  Speaker 9: Oh, it makes me extremely nervous. I mean, it's not
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  Speaker 9: that fast. No, that's what people have to understand. You know,
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  Speaker 9: I come from mainly private sector background, and these fast-track
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  Speaker 9: processes take years. They cost the developer an absolute fortune,
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  Speaker 9: so they rely on getting, I guess, non-zoned land cheaply
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  Speaker 9: to make it all work. You know, if you try
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  Speaker 9: and do something innovative on zoned land, You're paying through
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  Speaker 9: the nose to get it. So and then holding costs
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  Speaker 9: and all the rest, you cannot deliver affordable housing. It's
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  Speaker 9: just impossible to do through zoned land unless you're sort
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  Speaker 9: of building slums for people, which nobody wants. So, you know,
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  Speaker 9: there's got to be. a give and take here. It's
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  Speaker 9: not a one-sided thing at all. And councils need to
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  Speaker 9: be extremely careful about how far they push.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting. Bruce, appreciate your input this morning. Bruce Ware, Independent
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  Speaker 2: Urban Planner. Time is 18 after five.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge.
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  Speaker 2: Global dairy trade auction overnight. We were down 1.1%. Last
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  Speaker 2: time the auction went backwards was the start of July.
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  Speaker 2: So here we are, 15th of September. Well, that's the
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  Speaker 2: day of the auction overnight. And we are down 1.1%.
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  Speaker 2: The stuff we really care about, skim milk powder is
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  Speaker 2: up 0.1%. Whole milk powder down 0.8%. Mozzarella down 6%.
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  Speaker 2: Cheddar up 16.5%. Good morning for Cheddar. Buttered down 5.7.
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  Speaker 2: You're on Newstalk ZB. And we've got a lot to
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  Speaker 2: talk about. I want to get to tax, actually, before
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  Speaker 2: half five, so we'll do a bit of that. We're
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  Speaker 2: also going to get to the UK after news at 5.30.
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  Speaker 1: The early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered by
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  Speaker 1: It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and Spark for Business.
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  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. 5.21, the yields on your bonds just keep
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  Speaker 2: going up and up and up and up, but they're
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  Speaker 2: up over 5%. This is in the US for a 10-year,
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  Speaker 2: and that is the highest level since 2007. You've got
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  Speaker 2: oil up again, trading now around $ 107 a barrel, and
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow we have the Fed making an interest rate decision
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  Speaker 2: in the US, and the investors now thinking a 93%
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  Speaker 2: chance that they will hike rates. That's up from 59%
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  Speaker 2: a week ago off the back of that news, 22
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  Speaker 2: after 5.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge.
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  Speaker 2: ACT wants to freeze the minimum wage for three years.
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  Speaker 2: Unions don't like it, obviously, but even the EMA representing
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  Speaker 2: bosses reckons maybe it's a bit much. Well, I think
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  Speaker 2: the minimum wage freeze is probably a step too far.
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  Speaker 2: I get the sentiment behind it. Rachel McIntosh, ETU National
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  Speaker 2: Secretary with us this morning. Rachel, good morning.
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  Speaker 9: Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: Not a fan, I would imagine.
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  Speaker 5: Definitely not a fan. This is... a terrible thing for
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  Speaker 5: our country. It's certainly a terrible thing for anybody who
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  Speaker 5: gets paid the minimum wage, who will effectively be going
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  Speaker 5: backwards over three years.
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  Speaker 2: It's not going to happen, is it? I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think National's going to go for it, but you
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  Speaker 2: get increases... I mean, as part of the problem, under
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  Speaker 2: the last government, we had an increase of, what, 60
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  Speaker 2: plus percent over the term of their government. And you've
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  Speaker 2: got small businesses who employ people on the minimum wage
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  Speaker 2: who say that that upped their labour costs to the
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  Speaker 2: point where some of them could no longer operate or
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  Speaker 2: had to reduce hours. You know, do you have to
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  Speaker 2: maybe look at smaller increases so that it is more affordable,
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  Speaker 2: so that it's not such a shock and we get
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  Speaker 2: knee-jerk reactions like this one?
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  Speaker 5: The increases to the minimum wage have been totally necessary.
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  Speaker 5: We're actually still suffering from the freeze to the minimum
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  Speaker 5: wage that happened 30 years ago because the minimum wage
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  Speaker 5: is well below what people need to survive on. And
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  Speaker 5: if you think about the people who are doing the work,
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  Speaker 5: if you freeze the minimum wage, then what you are
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  Speaker 5: saying is that there are people in this country that
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  Speaker 5: are not worthy of... being able to live, basically, and
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  Speaker 5: there is nobody in that category. And the people doing
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  Speaker 5: the work actually are creating the wealth. And as wages
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  Speaker 5: go up, actually money circulates around the economy. So those
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  Speaker 5: small businesses, if they are underpaying people, then they are
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  Speaker 5: not creating a customer base for themselves. So it actually
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  Speaker 5: doesn't help the people that it's supposed to help. And
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  Speaker 5: it certainly doesn't help the people it's not supposed to help,
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  Speaker 5: which is the people doing the work.
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  Speaker 2: No, yeah, I totally understand that. I don't think anyone's
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  Speaker 2: saying that anyone on the minimum wage doesn't deserve to
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  Speaker 2: get more or doesn't need more. Everybody needs more. The
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  Speaker 2: question is, where does the money come from, right?
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  Speaker 5: Well, the money comes from the wealth that is being
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  Speaker 5: created by the people doing the work. That's where the
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  Speaker 5: money comes from.
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  Speaker 2: Good to have you on the show this morning. That's
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  Speaker 2: Rachel McIntosh, E2 National Secretary. It's 24 minutes after five,
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  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. Newstalk ZB, it is 26 minutes after five.
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  Speaker 2: Great to have your company this morning. Tax cuts are
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  Speaker 2: back on the campaign agenda. Nicola Willis dropped a wee
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  Speaker 2: hint at the Business New Zealand election conference yesterday in Wellington.
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  Speaker 2: Bracket creep is hurting workers. There's no doubt about that.
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  Speaker 2: As your wage increases, you creep into a higher tax bracket.
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  Speaker 2: You pay more marginal tax. That's not fair. So something
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  Speaker 2: might be done about it. And I say might because
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  Speaker 2: there are caveats. There are big caveats on this. National
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  Speaker 2: must first be re-elected. Its coalition partners would need to agree,
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  Speaker 2: and that was far from a done deal yesterday by
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  Speaker 2: the looks of it. And the government must have its
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  Speaker 2: books back in surplus before anything changes. And the plan
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  Speaker 2: for that at this stage is 2029, 2030. As I
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  Speaker 2: said yesterday, even then it is way for thin. And
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  Speaker 2: how many times have we been promised a surplus that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't eventuate? More times than I can count. Feels like
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  Speaker 2: a mirage. We'll find out more about this after the
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  Speaker 2: fiscal update at the end of the month. October 11th,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, ACT is going to make its pitch
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  Speaker 2: for flatter tax rates. They're releasing their alternative budget in October.
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  Speaker 2: And so we'll find out more about what they have
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  Speaker 2: to say about it. Then New Zealand First is working
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  Speaker 2: on a foreign investment tax incentive. The Nats are looking
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  Speaker 2: at changes to the R & D tax credit. So
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  Speaker 2: tax cuts, rather than just hikes, are on the election agenda,
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  Speaker 2: but not quite worth getting particularly excited about at this point,
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  Speaker 2: I have to say. Too many hoops to jump through,
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  Speaker 2: hills to climb, and water to go under bridges before
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  Speaker 2: this becomes a serious pitch to voters, something they should
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  Speaker 2: actually start thinking about and factoring into a decision before November.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge.
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  Speaker 2: 28 minutes after five. I was at that conference yesterday
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  Speaker 2: in Wellington and Erica Stanford, Immigration, was talking about overstayers.
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  Speaker 2: And I noticed we had a story in our news
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  Speaker 2: this morning saying, from memory, about 20,000 overstayers in New
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  Speaker 2: Zealand at the moment, 19,000 overstayers in New Zealand right now.
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  Speaker 2: And Erica Stanford said, and I thought it was really
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  Speaker 2: interesting and I hadn't heard her say it before, that
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the overstays or overstaying cases that she's
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  Speaker 2: seeing right now are from low-skilled workers who all rushed
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  Speaker 2: into New Zealand when we turned the taps on post-COVID.
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  Speaker 2: And under the previous administration, low-skilled workers accounted for 70%
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  Speaker 2: of what was coming in. That number is now 17%.
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  Speaker 2: But those workers who came in, the minister reckons a
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  Speaker 2: lot of them are now overstaying on their visas. And
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  Speaker 2: this is becoming a problem. And she said she's seeing
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  Speaker 2: more and more cases like this. So it's interesting, even
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  Speaker 2: though Shane Jones, you know, and New Zealand First, they
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  Speaker 2: get a hard time when they talk about immigration in
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  Speaker 2: New Zealand. Clearly, the system is not without its faults.
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  Speaker 2: 29 after five, Newstalk ZB, the Russians having a crack
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  Speaker 2: at their neighbours, drones, things they've done before, but doing
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  Speaker 2: it more often. We'll head to the UK for the
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  Speaker 2: latest here on Newstalk ZB.
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  Speaker 2: 24 away from 6 o'clock on Newstalk ZB for you
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  Speaker 2: Wednesday morning. We'll look at the Tom Phillips report before
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  Speaker 2: 6 o'clock this morning. Is anyone really suggesting he could
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  Speaker 2: have been caught, he could have been stopped earlier? We'll
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  Speaker 2: also go to London, Gavin Gray standing by for us.
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  Speaker 2: Russians are making moves over there. I've got some poll results,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: well actually six poll results on Marine Le Pen out
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: of France for you too. Loads of feedback on the
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: minimum wage. The ACT Party proposing that we freeze it
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: for three years, Ryan, on the minimum wage. It's the
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: excessive increases to it that was the problem under the
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: previous government. Not once did the union leader that you
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: spoke to this morning talk about the businesses and the
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: fact that they can't afford the large increases, only that
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: the workers could not afford to be without these big increases,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: says Craig. Ryan, small business owner here. The money can
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: only come from the customer. We need at least a
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: small margin to stay in business and pay the accountants
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: for vehicle services. I want to live in the unicorn
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: state too, but I'm eating rice with an extra bit
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: of flavor and my staff are eating takeaways. It's still
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: not easy out there. Ryan, honestly, that woman you had on,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I earned just over the minimum wage and worked for
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: a small business, haven't had an increase in three years,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: but I want to keep my job first. Thank you
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: very much. 23 minutes away from six.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Callum in Dunedin. Morning, Callum. Morning, Ryan. Bit wet down there.
• 19:29
  Speaker 10: Yeah, particularly in Southland. The bottom of the country's gone
• 19:32
  Speaker 10: from experiencing what was a drier than usual autumn to
• 19:35
  Speaker 10: its wettest winter in almost 50 years. Environment Southland's rainfall
• 19:40
  Speaker 10: records show that winter rain was 33% higher than average
• 19:44
  Speaker 10: this year, so it was the wettest winter in Southland
• 19:47
  Speaker 10: since 1980. May was drier than usual, but then very
• 19:51
  Speaker 10: high rainfall records from late June onwards. Environment Southland says, look,
• 19:55
  Speaker 10: farmers have generally managed well, but they're being urged to
• 19:59
  Speaker 10: minimise stock movement over bare ground as winter grazing ends
• 20:02
  Speaker 10: this month.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: The news, not good.
• 20:04
  Speaker 10: A strong El Nino expected to bring more cold, wet
• 20:07
  Speaker 10: weather through spring and summer.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: All right. How are you looking in Dunedin today?
• 20:12
  Speaker 10: Well, everyone was at the beach yesterday, but today heavy,
• 20:14
  Speaker 10: heavy rain forecast meant to ease this evening.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Coldest southerly is 14 the high. All right. Thanks so
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: much for that. Claire's in Christchurch. Morning, Claire.
• 20:21
  Speaker 11: Good morning.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: How confident are you down there about the Super Rugby round?
• 20:25
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't know that we're that confident.
• 20:26
  Speaker 11: Phil Major, though, is backing another big turnout when the
• 20:29
  Speaker 11: Super Rugby Super Round returns in April. Of course, we'll
• 20:33
  Speaker 11: be back at 1NZ Stadium after being the debut event
• 20:36
  Speaker 11: for the stadium this year. This year's event at that
• 20:39
  Speaker 11: stadium did deliver $ 13 million in terms of a boost
• 20:42
  Speaker 11: for the city. There were more than 73,000 people there.
• 20:46
  Speaker 11: Phil Majors says staff have done a fantastic job securing
• 20:49
  Speaker 11: its return. He's hoping he'll be able to emulate this
• 20:51
  Speaker 11: year's success, but he does note that the supercars won't
• 20:54
  Speaker 11: be within a week of the rugby next year, which
• 20:56
  Speaker 11: is something we did have this year. He also says
• 20:59
  Speaker 11: he hopes there'll be similar crowds, as it's not often
• 21:02
  Speaker 11: you see all the teams play.
• 21:03
  Speaker 13: At one venue.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: How's your weather?
• 21:06
  Speaker 11: Fine to start. A bit of high cloud increasing, though,
• 21:08
  Speaker 11: and then the rain sets in this evening. Northerly is
• 21:10
  Speaker 11: then turning southwesterly. Before that, though, we should reach 19.
• 21:13
  Speaker 11: Nice one.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Clare. Max in Wellington. Morning, Max.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Good morning.
• 21:17
  Speaker 14: And just quickly, I will be going to the Super
• 21:19
  Speaker 14: Round myself. I'd expect it to be just as good
• 21:21
  Speaker 14: as last time. Shame it's not on a long weekend,
• 21:23
  Speaker 14: but had such a good experience this year. We're already
• 21:28
  Speaker 14: locking in flights and accommodation for next year as well.
• 21:30
  Speaker 14: So looking forward to Super Round next year myself.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Fantastic. Are you after some free tickets, Max? Well, if
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: anyone's offering, I won't say no. Tell us about this poll.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Is this Wellington Bays we've got a poll for?
• 21:42
  Speaker 14: Yeah, so there was a debate last night hosted by
• 21:45
  Speaker 14: the Taxpayers Union at which they also released a poll
• 21:48
  Speaker 14: for the newly created electorate, Wellington Bays. Incumbent Green MP
• 21:53
  Speaker 14: Julianne Genton labours Craig Rennie virtually tied on about 29%.
• 21:59
  Speaker 14: National third on 15. Karunamutu undecided. Interestingly, only 12%. So
• 22:04
  Speaker 14: it seems most people have already made up their minds.
• 22:06
  Speaker 14: So a close one there. Our reporter went along to
• 22:08
  Speaker 14: the debate. As you'd imagine, a lot of concern about infrastructure.
• 22:12
  Speaker 14: It's difficult to pay for anything in this city, really.
• 22:14
  Speaker 14: An overpriced website or new bus lanes without it being
• 22:18
  Speaker 14: framed in the context of infrastructure and why we aren't
• 22:20
  Speaker 14: spending more money on water. We do have a few
• 22:23
  Speaker 14: interesting races around Wellington. The perennial Chris Bishop, Ginny Anderson face-off.
• 22:29
  Speaker 14: That's usually the most interesting. Tamitha Paul, Aisha Varel, National
• 22:33
  Speaker 14: Labour in Carpety. And with the Labour suffering in the polls,
• 22:37
  Speaker 14: it is difficult to see the Green Party not winning
• 22:40
  Speaker 14: a couple of races again like it did in 2023.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: All right. How's your wither?
• 22:45
  Speaker 14: Cloudy today with showers in nor'westerlies 14.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Max. Have a great day. Neva's in Auckland. Good morning, Neva.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Good morning.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Jeez, you thought that was a blockbuster. Wait till you
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: hear about the International Confederation of Principals Convention.
• 22:58
  Speaker 13: Does it not spin your wheels?
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Come on, Neva, sex it up for me.
• 23:01
  Speaker 13: Gosh, it's the only story I could find. I thought,
• 23:04
  Speaker 13: give it here. What's going on?
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: This is what happens when the CRL finally opens. All
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: the Auckland journalists are like, oh, what do we do now?
• 23:12
  Speaker 15: Well, look, I was going to make a tenuous link
• 23:14
  Speaker 15: to say, you know, now that it's hosting this big
• 23:17
  Speaker 15: International Confederation Principles Convention this week, maybe all the people
• 23:20
  Speaker 15: attending can get on the CRL this week.
• 23:23
  Speaker 13: That's what I was just saying in the newsroom.
• 23:26
  Speaker 15: Yes, so about 1,200 principals from 20 countries. They're here
• 23:30
  Speaker 15: in Auckland for the event. Now, this is being hosted
• 23:33
  Speaker 15: by the NZ Principals Federation for the first time in
• 23:36
  Speaker 15: two decades.
• 23:37
  Speaker 13: So that's pretty cool. Jason Miles, he's the president.
• 23:40
  Speaker 15: He says, look, they're looking forward to things like discussing
• 23:43
  Speaker 15: themes like equity, curriculum and assessment, reviving indigenous language across
• 23:49
  Speaker 15: the globe.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, stop it.
• 23:51
  Speaker 13: Oh, stop it. Energetic.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: So 1,200 principals. Who's running the schools? You know? Who cares?
• 23:57
  Speaker 13: They're not learning anything. The youth of today, for goodness sake.
• 24:01
  Speaker 13: Are they on holiday soon?
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: The grades will go up once David Prince was there.
• 24:05
  Speaker 13: They're probably still riding the CRL, for goodness sake.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Have you been?
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: Oh, you have been.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I went on Sunday. Yeah, I went on a long Sunday.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, my mum was like, what's it like? I said,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: it's like a train underground. And if you've been on
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: one of those, it's like that.
• 24:19
  Speaker 13: So you weren't excited?
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Well... Could you eat?
• 24:22
  Speaker 13: You going to take your lunch on there? I haven't been.
• 24:23
  Speaker 13: I'm going to go on Tuesday or Friday after 9 o'clock.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look, don't hold your breath. Or actually, you could
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: hold your breath, because it only took two minutes to
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: get from K Road down to Britomart.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: So you probably actually could hold your breath the entire way,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: and that would make it more fun.
• 24:38
  Speaker 13: Did you see any buskers? They're probably not allowed.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there were buskers on every corner. Get out
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: of town. It was the opening day. I'm assuming the
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: council paid for buskers to go and make the streets
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: look lively.
• 24:47
  Speaker 13: Well, you see, I'm going to go and join the buskers.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Good on you.
• 24:49
  Speaker 13: I can belt out a song or two.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: How's that weather?
• 24:51
  Speaker 13: Partly cloudy, isolated showers, 16 to high. 17.6.
• 24:58
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• 26:04
  Speaker 2: 14 to 6, we'll do Tom Phillips in a second. First,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: let's go to the UK, Gavin Gray with us. So
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: we've got NATO, a pilot there shooting down a drone
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: over Lithuania. Do we think it's the Russians?
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: Yes, that appears to be very much the thought process.
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: It hasn't been confirmed. And indeed, of course, the debris
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: is being collected and investigated. But those are the thoughts
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: of the Lithuanians and indeed others outside the EU. It's
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: likely that the drone came into southern Lithuania from neighboring Belarus. Now,
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: Belarus is a big supporter of Vladimir Putin and Russia,
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: and Lithuania is a big supporter of Ukraine. And so
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: that's why the finger is being pointed pretty much at
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: Russia on this one. It's thought to be the very
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: first time that a NATO jet has shot down a
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: drone in Lithuanian airspace. Alerts sounded across the capital Vilnius
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: and the area around that very early, just after midnight, actually,
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: local time. Alerts sent to phones in the region telling
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: people to find a safe place, wait for the all clear,
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: and Lithuania's armed forces joined with Italian pilots there. serving
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: in the NATO air defense mission, decided to shoot it down.
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: No comment from Moscow at the moment, but military drone
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: incursions have become increasingly common across Europe, all from Russia,
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: it is said, since the beginning of Russia's full-scale invasion
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: of Ukraine.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Gavin, we've been talking about these incursions, we've been
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: talking about these drones for a long time now. Do
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: you feel like it's ramping up to something?
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: Yes, very much so, because not just that happened last night.
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: Poland announced there was an aviation operation in its airspace, quote,
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: due to the activity of Russian Federation's jet-powered unmanned aerial vehicles.
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: Denmark's accused Russia, a warship from Russia, of firing two
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: emergency flares. It's one of its helicopters. There was said
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: to be no warning, and one of the flares was
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: passed very, very close to the helicopter. Russia saying it
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: will thoroughly investigate it, but is accusing helicopters of dangerous
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: maneuvers near Russian warships. And add to that, a lot
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: of the Netherlands has been hit by major rail disruption.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: Suspected sabotage on the tracks. Again, who's responsible? Well, that's again,
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: finger pointing at Russia, Russia denying any responsibility for that.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Gavin Gray, a UK-Europe correspondent. By the way, I did
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: say I would give you some poll results out of France.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: So Macron is gone. April next year, April, May, they're
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: going to have a two-round vote to pick a new president.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: And Marine Le Pen, who announced her campaign launch, had
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: a big hullabaloo a couple of days ago now on
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: the weekend. This is the populist right national rally leader.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: She is, with seven months to go, well ahead in
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: the polls. In fact, five new polls give her a 32%
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: to 36% chance in the first round. That's at least
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: 13 points ahead of her nearest rival. Of course, then
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: there will be a runoff, and you've got candidates, and
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: you've got preferences, and it becomes a bit complicated after that.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: But suffice to say, at this point, Marine Le Pen...
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: well out in front, 10 to 6. Tom Phillips report,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: police in Oranga Tamariki missed multiple chances to protect the kids,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: including a member of the public picking Phillips up in
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: their car, tipping off officials, police then cancelling the call out.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Police also failed to act on firearms warnings, but authorities
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: sided with Phillips over the kid's mum.
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: We appreciate now that mum obviously had concerns about firearm
• 29:38
  Speaker 9: safety and we could have done a better search for firearms.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Jane Searle, Children's Commissioner with me this morning. Jane, good morning.
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: Yes, good morning, Ryan.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Is there anything tangible, practical come out of this that
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: you think we should be doing and worrying about?
• 29:52
  Speaker 12: Absolutely, I think there are. I think this report shows
• 29:57
  Speaker 12: what we've known for some time, that we need better
• 29:59
  Speaker 12: coordination between government agencies and we need to make sure
• 30:02
  Speaker 12: the right information is being shared.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: What information wasn't being shared?
• 30:08
  Speaker 12: Well, the report didn't say that the Oranga Tamariki and
• 30:11
  Speaker 12: the police weren't sharing information, but it said they weren't
• 30:13
  Speaker 12: sharing all the information they needed. So at critical times,
• 30:16
  Speaker 12: there were certain points that should have been shared between
• 30:18
  Speaker 12: the agencies. This isn't a new problem, and as I say,
• 30:22
  Speaker 12: we've known this for some time. So the report's quite
• 30:25
  Speaker 12: clear that that coordination needs to be better, and that
• 30:27
  Speaker 12: would go across a lot of government agencies.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: There'll be people out there right now who are in such,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: you know, there'll be parents who aren't good parents, who
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: are doing things to their children, harming their children or whatever.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: It's very hard for the government, with its siloed lots
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: of different departments, lots of different agencies, it's very hard
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: for them to in real time actually be effective about this,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: isn't it?
• 30:50
  Speaker 12: Well, it's not easy and cases like this one in
• 30:53
  Speaker 12: particular are very complex. However, it can be done and
• 30:56
  Speaker 12: there are instances when it can be done. I remember
• 30:58
  Speaker 12: when I was a police detective working with Oranga Tamariki
• 31:01
  Speaker 12: closely on cases. So it certainly is the best way
• 31:05
  Speaker 12: to approach it because each agency brings its own lens
• 31:08
  Speaker 12: and own expertise.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, interesting stuff. Jane, good to have you on the
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: show this morning. Jane Sill, the Children's Commissioner on the
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Tom Phillips Report. 8 to 6, Newstalk ZB.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in-depth analysis.
• 31:22
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• 31:26
  Speaker 1: that keeps business moving.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. Newstalk ZB, it is great to have your
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: company this morning. Commercial fuel stocks around the world have
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: been going down because of what happened in the Middle East.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: And the strategic reserves that all the governments have together,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: and they've got their little tickets, well, they can't be
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: tapped into much further. You've now had the attacks shutting
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: down the pipeline in Saudi Arabia, the East-West pipeline, that
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: bypassed the Strait. That's two and a half million barrels
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: a day. You've got five weeks to fix that thing.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: So there's a bit of another choke point on oil there.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: And it's interesting listening to the chief executive of Chevron,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: whose name is Mike Worth, had a listen to him
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: this morning. He said all of the mechanisms, all of
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: the levers that you've got to help mitigate the price
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: and supply side risk, you've already pulled. So you kind
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: of tapped out at this point, which is why you're
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: seeing the prices go higher, people getting a bit jittery,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: a bit of bum clenching about it. Five to six.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Good morning, Mike.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: How are you, Ryan? Very well, how are you?
• 32:28
  Speaker 16: Can I ask your assessment of given you weren't here
• 32:31
  Speaker 16: yesterday and you were off earning a little shekel on
• 32:34
  Speaker 16: the side at your conference in Wellington. What's your assessment
• 32:38
  Speaker 16: of those things? I mean, I've long been fascinated by
• 32:41
  Speaker 16: the number of people who spend their life just sitting
• 32:44
  Speaker 16: at a table listening to people like you and the
• 32:46
  Speaker 16: people on sofas saying stuff. Would I have got something
• 32:50
  Speaker 16: out of yesterday, genuinely?
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, genuinely. I got about six things out of yesterday.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Did you? And I think the difference is you've got
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: an hour. So we did three hour-long panels. Which you
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: wouldn't sit through, Mike, because I know a bit about
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: who you are as a person. However, you get some
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: just little moments of brilliance.
• 33:09
  Speaker 16: So they're nuggets.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Nuggets.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Nuggets, like on overstays, Erica Stanford said we were letting
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: in 70% low-skilled migrants into New Zealand under the previous government.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Did you know that? And it's now 17, and a
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: lot of them are now overstaying. Was there a lot
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: of argy-bargy? Yeah, a bit of argy-bargy, a bit of Barbara,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: a bit of Nicola.
• 33:26
  Speaker 16: Was it fun-argy-bargy or agro-argy-bargy?
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all good. I like to keep it all private.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: pretty good oh.
• 33:31
  Speaker 16: No you know what i mean you're a master of
• 33:33
  Speaker 16: ceremonies like none other i understand that part but is
• 33:35
  Speaker 16: there an angst in the room between them are they
• 33:37
  Speaker 16: feeling a bit.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah nicola probably more so than anyone it's interesting watching
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: barbara edmonds the reception that barbara edmonds gets from the
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: business community they love her or not they love her
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: yeah she's a very likable she's a very likable person
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: she keeps it real she's not caught up and she's
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: not dogmatic no and i think i sense that nicola's
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: a little bit onto that Gotcha. Apart from that, it
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: was all as you'd expect.
• 33:59
  Speaker 16: Would they have felt that your fee was worth it?
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: 100%.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. As I said, Winston Peters was complaining about expensive ferries.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I said, I'm not one of them. Actually, that's quite
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: a good line.
• 34:12
  Speaker 16: Did that go down well?
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it got a few laughs. Did they like that one?
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Very good indeed.
• 34:17
  Speaker 16: We've successfully filled the time to the news, so that's
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  Speaker 16: worked out well. I'll keep my show secret.
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  Speaker 2: Mike's with you next.
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  Speaker 16: ZB.
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  Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live
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  Speaker 1: to News Talk ZB from 5 a.m. weekdays or follow
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