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- 0:09Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's going on everybody? Jeff Moser,
- 0:17Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan here for an Inside the Birds. And it's
- 0:20Speaker 1: been a little bit since we've talked, probably since you
- 0:22Speaker 1: heard us on the Inside the Birds postgame show. But wow,
- 0:26Speaker 1: the Eagles were at one point four and oh now
- 0:28Speaker 1: four and two, coming off two losses in a span
- 0:31Speaker 1: of four days, the Denver Broncos and then Adam the
- 0:34Speaker 1: New York Giants. We've had a couple of days here
- 0:37Speaker 1: to kind of process everything. It feels like it's been
- 0:40Speaker 1: a long time, probably since twenty twenty three, where the
- 0:43Speaker 1: Eagles had a loss against the team that not only
- 0:46Speaker 1: they shouldn't have lost to based on just how good
- 0:48Speaker 1: your roster is in comparison, but by a deficit that big.
- 0:54Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's funny if you look at social media
- 0:59Speaker 2: and all sorts of TV networks and they're running all
- 1:05Speaker 2: the scatter bow big runs in the game, knocking over
- 1:09Speaker 2: the Eagles defense, acting like the Eagles are like the
- 1:13Speaker 2: second division team. It's actually kind of funny how badly
- 1:15Speaker 2: the people are killing the Eagles nationally. Oh they're not
- 1:19Speaker 2: color fraud's but saying, okay, they're not as good as
- 1:21Speaker 2: we thought they were. The fact they're not very good
- 1:22Speaker 2: and all this it's kind of it's I was surprised, like, man,
- 1:25Speaker 2: people are really killing the Eagles. Okay, you're right. Look
- 1:28Speaker 2: in terms of yeah, the Eagles got taken the woodshet
- 1:30Speaker 2: they played poorly. This is sort of a manifestation of
- 1:35Speaker 2: what's happened lately with his team not playing well on
- 1:37Speaker 2: either side of the football. I mean, when you talk
- 1:40Speaker 2: about the best part of the team now is the
- 1:41Speaker 2: kicker and the punter. That's not very good. You shouldn't
- 1:43Speaker 2: be saying that, but it is truth right now.
- 1:45Speaker 1: No, you're right, and I think what happens is people
- 1:48Speaker 1: take their shots when they can. You know, the Eagles
- 1:50Speaker 1: are really vulnerable right now. Obviously you lose to the
- 1:53Speaker 1: Giants by seventeen points and you're the Eagles and everybody
- 1:56Speaker 1: expects that. And you can now see there are dents
- 1:59Speaker 1: in the armor. They look more human. To be fair
- 2:02Speaker 1: and objective, they don't look like the best team in
- 2:04Speaker 1: the NFC at the moment. You know, we'll talk about
- 2:07Speaker 1: some of that as the week goes on, because there
- 2:09Speaker 1: are games left, but yeah, they don't look like the
- 2:12Speaker 1: best team in the NFC, and that's sort of shocking
- 2:15Speaker 1: because they started off four and oh and even though
- 2:18Speaker 1: that there were deficiencies that were glaring, they were still
- 2:21Speaker 1: winning the way championship teams do, which is finding a
- 2:24Speaker 1: way in the fourth quarter to pull it out either way.
- 2:27Speaker 1: But now these two wins are humbling. And what we're
- 2:29Speaker 1: gonna do in this podcast is we're gonna go through
- 2:32Speaker 1: the injury situation. We're gonna go through the self scouting
- 2:35Speaker 1: that the Eagles should have been doing and they have
- 2:37Speaker 1: been doing over the weekend, and then we'll get into
- 2:39Speaker 1: a little bit of the Vikings injury situation. Like the
- 2:43Speaker 1: early word on the Vikings as that is the next
- 2:45Speaker 1: opponent for the Eagles on Sunday in Minnesota. I just
- 2:50Speaker 1: want to bring everybody's attention and we'll probably talk about
- 2:52Speaker 1: it a little bit in this podcast too, because it's relevant.
- 2:55Speaker 1: But Sam Finkel on Inside the Data had an amazing
- 2:58Speaker 1: Inside the Data that came out Sunday morning. What he
- 3:01Speaker 1: did was we waited for both games to be over,
- 3:03Speaker 1: and he sort of compared both losses analytically and then
- 3:07Speaker 1: individually and how they compared to the rest of the
- 3:10Speaker 1: Eagles season. And there were a couple of things that
- 3:13Speaker 1: you can't find in the box score or that aren't obvious.
- 3:16Speaker 1: We talk about not getting the run game going with
- 3:18Speaker 1: Sakwon Barkley, that's obvious, the past game being sporadic, that's obvious, right.
- 3:23Speaker 1: But there were a couple of stats we'll talk about
- 3:26Speaker 1: through here because this is what the Eagles really need
- 3:28Speaker 1: to be self scouting that really jumped out, and I
- 3:31Speaker 1: just think Sam did an amazing job. And just to
- 3:33Speaker 1: give you a little surface. One is field position, which
- 3:37Speaker 1: you know has been awful for the Eagles, starting field position,
- 3:41Speaker 1: average starting posi position. And the other one is third downs.
- 3:45Speaker 1: It's not necessarily their percentage converted, but just how often
- 3:48Speaker 1: they're in third down compared to every other down. The
- 3:52Speaker 1: Eagles are not ahead of the sticks as nearly as
- 3:55Speaker 1: much as I should be. And when you hear the
- 3:57Speaker 1: actual data and analytics of it through Sam's reports in
- 4:01Speaker 1: his charts, it's staggering at him.
- 4:03Speaker 2: Oh boy, man, I can't wait to hear this. Yeah,
- 4:05Speaker 2: that's it's interesting because well, we have a little mini
- 4:09Speaker 2: buy self scout for the Eagles, and Sirianni talked about
- 4:12Speaker 2: in his press conference after the game. You put it
- 4:14Speaker 2: out there. He said, they're going to treat it like
- 4:16Speaker 2: a normal bye week that they're gonna that they're gonna
- 4:18Speaker 2: self scout. And what happens in self scout is you
- 4:21Speaker 2: look at every tendency you have and let's say there's
- 4:26Speaker 2: a certain thing you do your tendency on third down,
- 4:30Speaker 2: if you're going to run it, you do it a
- 4:31Speaker 2: certain way, Well you're going to change it. If it's
- 4:34Speaker 2: a heavy tens, you have to change it. Yep. And
- 4:37Speaker 2: you know the predictability. Lane Johnson went on record off
- 4:39Speaker 2: the game talking about that without he didn't really go
- 4:43Speaker 2: into detail. He said a couple of things, but it
- 4:45Speaker 2: wasn't really what I call revealing. But the bottom line
- 4:48Speaker 2: is there are some predictability factors with his offense, the
- 4:52Speaker 2: runs of the middle or just I mean, there's it's
- 4:55Speaker 2: obvious something that's going on with the health of this
- 4:57Speaker 2: offensive line. We all know it.
- 4:59Speaker 1: Yep.
- 5:00Speaker 2: This is like beyond bizarre.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Yep.
- 5:03Speaker 2: They won't run the ball on the outside. I've never
- 5:05Speaker 2: seen this before. And I don't even know what to
- 5:07Speaker 2: say because do we as start doing the pregam show
- 5:10Speaker 2: with Cosel, do we ask him that? And he said,
- 5:12Speaker 2: where's it?
- 5:14Speaker 1: He said, when they have run the ball to the outside.
- 5:17Speaker 1: They have been successful, they just don't do it very often.
- 5:21Speaker 1: And in fairness, the Eagles really have been an inside
- 5:24Speaker 1: zone duo team for a while. Outside wide zone things
- 5:27Speaker 1: like that is not their specialty. But I think that
- 5:30Speaker 1: that you bring up a great point when you get
- 5:32Speaker 1: used to doing something well and then teams game plan it,
- 5:35Speaker 1: and then you add in the fact that your personnel
- 5:38Speaker 1: on the offensive line isn't the same as it was,
- 5:41Speaker 1: either from a health standpoint or just a personnel standpoint.
- 5:45Speaker 2: We'll get into it in a minute.
- 5:47Speaker 1: You may it may force you to make adjustments, and Adam,
- 5:50Speaker 1: I know everybody wants We talk about this all the time.
- 5:52Speaker 1: People want adjustments before it's time to adjust. Sometimes you
- 5:56Speaker 1: need a loss like the Giants to adjust because when
- 6:00Speaker 1: you're winning games, or even if you lose one game
- 6:03Speaker 1: where you don't do well, coaches don't. Coaches are process oriented.
- 6:07Speaker 1: There are not results oriented, meaning you can do like
- 6:10Speaker 1: almost everything right, lose on a fluky interception that never
- 6:14Speaker 1: happens because it bounces off one and you lost the game.
- 6:17Speaker 1: But the process that you had might have been good
- 6:20Speaker 1: better times than it wasn't. That just happens in the NFL.
- 6:23Speaker 1: But I think this loss to the Giants has to
- 6:27Speaker 1: show the egos that they need to go and review.
- 6:30Speaker 2: Some of their process which needs to be cleaned up
- 6:33Speaker 2: a bit. I think that's obvious. Yeah, so that's what
- 6:36Speaker 2: a self scout is. Well throughout the show, we'll try
- 6:38Speaker 2: to drop in some nuggets on that. We asked around
- 6:41Speaker 2: and I got kind of what is typically done during
- 6:44Speaker 2: a bye week. But look, it's it's a situation where
- 6:48Speaker 2: you know, if you before the season started, we had
- 6:51Speaker 2: kind of a general idea of where we thought they
- 6:52Speaker 2: would be record wise, you never know which game they're
- 6:55Speaker 2: gonna lose, but there's no way and how I saw
- 6:56Speaker 2: them lose on the Giance's not happening right, and they
- 7:00Speaker 2: are so shorthanded. But man, when little Jordan Humphrey is
- 7:05Speaker 2: a guy that you can't predict, I mean, he's a
- 7:07Speaker 2: Sean Payton guy. He's he's been a good stuck he
- 7:11Speaker 2: I gave the guy credit for not you call him
- 7:13Speaker 2: it quits. He's an undirected, freaking big dude. And you
- 7:15Speaker 2: saw how you shielded off Ringo. That was not good boy.
- 7:19Speaker 2: And we're going to get to our self scout for
- 7:21Speaker 2: what they need to do. And Howie not that he
- 7:23Speaker 2: wouldn't be on the phone, but he's he's he's got
- 7:25Speaker 2: to do something. And whether it's significant or not, at
- 7:28Speaker 2: corner they had something that's got to be done.
- 7:30Speaker 1: This is ridiculous, right, So as we get into it,
- 7:32Speaker 1: Adam I wrote on Philly Voice on Saturday a story
- 7:35Speaker 1: diagnosing the Eagles issues at on Philly Voice dot com.
- 7:38Speaker 1: You go check it out. Getting great feedback, by the way,
- 7:40Speaker 1: and thank everybody who's read and said that they appreciate
- 7:44Speaker 1: the extra element of our coverage alongside Jimmy Keemski and
- 7:48Speaker 1: I diagnosed it. And I think you can realistically say
- 7:51Speaker 1: there are there are many things that they can do
- 7:54Speaker 1: differently in their self scouting review to get themselves out
- 7:56Speaker 1: of the rut. And there are a couple of things
- 7:58Speaker 1: that are out of their control. And the health is
- 8:01Speaker 1: the part that's out of their control. And we said
- 8:05Speaker 1: on Friday, I think you nailed it. On our pregame show.
- 8:08Speaker 1: You said, look, if Gabe Hall gets elevated, then you
- 8:12Speaker 1: know the concern is real about Jalen Carter's heel. And
- 8:15Speaker 1: you even mentioned past hearing from past folks, how hard
- 8:19Speaker 1: heel injuries can be on really big, strong lining right
- 8:22Speaker 1: with all that weight, and you nailed it. He did
- 8:24Speaker 1: not play. He warmed up, he wasn't ready, so they
- 8:28Speaker 1: had to play gay ball, and that clearly took a
- 8:29Speaker 1: little bit away from the Giants. I'm sorry from the
- 8:32Speaker 1: Eagles defensive front. Not enough to make it excusable for
- 8:35Speaker 1: the effort that they gave, but it's it's a significant loss.
- 8:38Speaker 2: Actually, I don't think he warmed up. He was out
- 8:40Speaker 2: there and they I only think he warmed up to
- 8:42Speaker 2: bounce that.
- 8:42Speaker 1: I oh, the people there were saying he was on
- 8:44Speaker 1: the field doing some things. I saw a couple of
- 8:46Speaker 1: reporters tweet that he was talking with Howie and the.
- 8:49Speaker 2: Tree wise, but I don't know how much he really
- 8:50Speaker 2: let him do on that turf.
- 8:51Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. I don't mean to
- 8:53Speaker 1: paint it like he warmed up with the team in
- 8:54Speaker 1: full warmth. Yeah.
- 8:56Speaker 2: I've been on it twice over number years now. I
- 8:57Speaker 2: don't know if they've lifted it up, changed it. I
- 9:00Speaker 2: don't know. I know a lot of stadiums they do
- 9:02Speaker 2: this over so many years, but this is disgrace. That's
- 9:05Speaker 2: why players want to have grass. You shouldn't have to
- 9:08Speaker 2: worry about is my player going to make it through
- 9:10Speaker 2: the game on this right? Wherever we come IM, it's
- 9:13Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, for gonna sake. I won't curse I bother.
- 9:16Speaker 2: It's pathetic.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Thank god. N Kobe Dean made it, made it in.
- 9:19Speaker 2: Yeah, right, that's right. Injury. Yeah, he didn't play on defense.
- 9:23Speaker 2: He played on specials a lot on specials so that
- 9:25Speaker 2: they could use the special team's coverage. But yeah, that
- 9:27Speaker 2: that was we'll get into that. But yeah, so game Hall.
- 9:30Speaker 2: By the way, he's back on the practice squad. He's
- 9:33Speaker 2: had one elevation. By the way, he's the only defensive
- 9:35Speaker 2: tackle on the practice squad.
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- 9:39Speaker 1: who hit a five leg parlay week one and he
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- 11:50Speaker 1: as this week. On Wednesday, when they reconvene for practice
- 11:54Speaker 1: and that's when the first report will come out to
- 11:57Speaker 1: see if Dylan Carter is able to get back out
- 11:59Speaker 1: on the field. Landon Dickerson did not play with the
- 12:03Speaker 1: left angle injury at this point, Adam, I don't even know.
- 12:06Speaker 1: You know, only he knows and the medical staff knows.
- 12:08Speaker 1: But he's missed so much time with various injuries here,
- 12:12Speaker 1: going back to the offseason. There's a part of me
- 12:14Speaker 1: that thinks he needs to just take some time off
- 12:16Speaker 1: to heal up totally, you know, get some conditioning in.
- 12:19Speaker 1: Who knows before he comes back out, because there have
- 12:22Speaker 1: been times he's hurt the team by not being able
- 12:24Speaker 1: to execute the way he normally executes.
- 12:27Speaker 2: And that's the issue with with trying to run outside.
- 12:30Speaker 2: I mean typically even if you're not running your usual
- 12:34Speaker 2: outside zone plays. You could still do a toss play.
- 12:36Speaker 2: They don't not even doing that outside like they're just
- 12:39Speaker 2: and then I don't have the stuff numbers in front
- 12:41Speaker 2: of me. Stuff's a stat where jeez, I remember this
- 12:45Speaker 2: is going back I don't know, early two thousands of
- 12:47Speaker 2: late nineties. I was actually charting one season for Stats Inc.
- 12:51Speaker 2: So you know, I'd get the TV copy and I'd
- 12:54Speaker 2: start charting. That was part of like the stuff is
- 12:57Speaker 2: when you get caught behind the line you're running back. Yep,
- 13:00Speaker 2: my goodness, graciers, how many times I get a run
- 13:02Speaker 2: inside it? It seems so obvious that and we're we're
- 13:05Speaker 2: sometimes we call it before the play up here we go.
- 13:08Speaker 2: It's probably gonna be an inside run. He's gonna get stuffed.
- 13:10Speaker 2: There you go. So that's that's the kind of stuff
- 13:13Speaker 2: for the self scout that they've got.
- 13:14Speaker 1: A hey, I got the numbers for you. Urt give
- 13:18Speaker 1: Sam Finkel again another reason why by the data. So
- 13:21Speaker 1: for the season, their run stuff rate is twenty two
- 13:24Speaker 1: point two percent, which is high for them, especially all
- 13:28Speaker 1: right the Broncos, remember they actually had some decent runs
- 13:31Speaker 1: and then they just gave up on it. So the
- 13:33Speaker 1: run stuff rate against the Broncos was only eighteen point
- 13:35Speaker 1: two percent, but against the Giants they were stuffed at
- 13:39Speaker 1: a rate of forty percent.
- 13:42Speaker 2: Folks, that is so bad. Wow, that's like.
- 13:48Speaker 1: EPA per rush was minus point twenty six.
- 13:55Speaker 2: Look, I've never thought i'd see the day with Stalin's
- 13:57Speaker 2: offensive li and we know these guys are beat up.
- 13:59Speaker 2: We left right. None of them are playing at the
- 14:01Speaker 2: usual level. Leaguelane still is been playing best out of
- 14:04Speaker 2: all of them, but he's not quite where he usually is.
- 14:07Speaker 2: This is really like hard to believe. I guess we
- 14:09Speaker 2: pretty much hit on every pretty much when we were
- 14:13Speaker 2: We hit on all of our concerns this season except
- 14:15Speaker 2: for the one we met we totally missed on.
- 14:17Speaker 1: Now.
- 14:17Speaker 2: I don't see how we would have known the run
- 14:18Speaker 2: game would be bad. I just don't know I would
- 14:20Speaker 2: have known this so bad.
- 14:23Speaker 1: All right, So let's talk about Selsea because we're getting
- 14:26Speaker 1: the running game right has got to be the number
- 14:30Speaker 1: one priority. There's a lot of issues, and again the
- 14:33Speaker 1: offensive line has got to get healthier. But there's no
- 14:37Speaker 1: excuse for the team with Satkwon Barkley to not be able.
- 14:40Speaker 1: With Dallas godd who's a good in line blocker to
- 14:42Speaker 1: not be able to run the ball better, and you
- 14:44Speaker 1: started to see it against the Giants with the eighteen
- 14:46Speaker 1: yard run than the thirteen yard run. He actually had
- 14:49Speaker 1: sixty yards on ten carries in the first half against
- 14:52Speaker 1: the Giants, which is you'll take that any day. But
- 14:55Speaker 1: he actually finished with twelve carries for fifty eight yards,
- 14:58Speaker 1: so we had minus two in unbelievd. This this is
- 15:01Speaker 1: stuff you can't make up, right sick Colon Berkeley used
- 15:05Speaker 1: to own the second half. In fact, his second half
- 15:08Speaker 1: rushing total last year alone was like top five in
- 15:11Speaker 1: the NFL, just the second half. And now he's minus
- 15:14Speaker 1: two on two carries. It's almost inconceivable.
- 15:18Speaker 2: So we're like, I don't know about you, but when
- 15:19Speaker 2: I first saw this first two carris and how much
- 15:22Speaker 2: space he had, I was like, Okay, here we go.
- 15:23Speaker 2: This looks beautiful. Over thirty yards on his first two runs,
- 15:27Speaker 2: he as long as run of the season eighteen yards.
- 15:29Speaker 2: That's that's better than nothing. I mean, it was a
- 15:31Speaker 2: little bit of improvement, and then it just completely dissipated.
- 15:35Speaker 2: It was just a nightmare. Now I know a lot
- 15:38Speaker 2: of fans they're putting on our YouTube comments and I
- 15:41Speaker 2: understand the point, but it's not like Brett Toaf is
- 15:45Speaker 2: a better option than Lannon Dickerson. Matt Pryor really doesn't
- 15:49Speaker 2: play left guard. They tried it late in the preseason,
- 15:52Speaker 2: late in training. Can't excuse me. He has very little
- 15:55Speaker 2: reps there, and Drew Kennell as too small. He's really
- 15:58Speaker 2: a center who could play guard and he hasn't even
- 16:01Speaker 2: been active yet. So they've got and that's yet another
- 16:03Speaker 2: problem for the roster, not having that Jack droscoll type,
- 16:07Speaker 2: that plug and play guy that kick you out of
- 16:08Speaker 2: a tough opportunity three games. They don't have that guy
- 16:10Speaker 2: right now. Unfortunately.
- 16:11Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, and this would only be
- 16:13Speaker 1: a self scouting question that the Eagles coaches. I wonder
- 16:16Speaker 1: if they ask themselves. Tyler Steen used to come in
- 16:19Speaker 1: and play quite a bit at left guard. Matt Pryor
- 16:21Speaker 1: is a better right side player. Is the combination while
- 16:25Speaker 1: landon Dickerson if he continues to be out? Is there
- 16:27Speaker 1: a better combination to be argue that you moved Tyler
- 16:30Speaker 1: Stein the left guard and put Prior at right guard
- 16:32Speaker 1: than keeping Toath at left guard and Stem at right guard.
- 16:36Speaker 2: I like that move. Obviously, this is with if Dickerson's
- 16:39Speaker 2: not ready, Yes, because you're just getting overall a better combination.
- 16:46Speaker 1: Agree, that's where.
- 16:48Speaker 2: You were going there.
- 16:48Speaker 5: I look, I'm getting a better player on the field. Yes, yes,
- 16:52Speaker 5: that's the point. I know Scout has done everything he
- 16:54Speaker 5: can for Brett Toath. I actually was talking to an
- 16:57Speaker 5: offensive line coach who was I think.
- 17:01Speaker 2: They he remembered Brett Toath from the East West Shrine
- 17:05Speaker 2: game maybe in twenty nineteen. I think that might've been
- 17:07Speaker 2: the game the practices, and he said, wow, he was
- 17:10Speaker 2: kind of surprised that he's still playing. He knew, he
- 17:12Speaker 2: was aware he's still in the league. He just never
- 17:15Speaker 2: saw him as a guard because he's so tall. But look,
- 17:18Speaker 2: our friend Todd Herman's play guard. You can do it.
- 17:21Speaker 2: But the fact of the matter is they need better
- 17:22Speaker 2: play there, and it's just they thought Tooth would be better.
- 17:28Speaker 2: It's just not good enough. I mean, I know he
- 17:30Speaker 2: had some good snaps in that game, but overall, it's
- 17:32Speaker 2: not good enough. And this is if you put on
- 17:34Speaker 2: how his checklist for the trade deadline, and guy, they're
- 17:37Speaker 2: not even working out players. You know, I get the
- 17:39Speaker 2: workout list as you do. They're not working they're barely
- 17:42Speaker 2: working on players. They worked out Drake Jackson last week,
- 17:45Speaker 2: left foot upunter because they're facing a left footed punter.
- 17:48Speaker 2: But where are the works some linemen out anybody, any
- 17:50Speaker 2: veterans out there, come.
- 17:51Speaker 1: On, I know, well, wouldn't bring back Kenyan Green for
- 17:54Speaker 1: the fit. No, I'm just kidding. He's with the with
- 17:56Speaker 1: the Ravens. But yeah, no, there's probably should be some
- 17:59Speaker 1: more King of Tires of offensive line.
- 18:01Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 18:02Speaker 1: But yeah, and by the way, we're not trying to
- 18:05Speaker 1: because I can already feel the YouTube comments coming. We
- 18:07Speaker 1: are not trying to pump up Matt Pryor as the
- 18:10Speaker 1: second coming of Mackai Becton here. I just think that
- 18:13Speaker 1: when he's on the right side at guard, he's better
- 18:16Speaker 1: than Tooth as a left side left guard. So I'm
- 18:19Speaker 1: not saying you're improving yourself dramatically, but you might improve
- 18:22Speaker 1: yourself just enough to be better in the run game
- 18:24Speaker 1: and be more ahead of the sticks. And that's all
- 18:26Speaker 1: you're looking.
- 18:26Speaker 2: To do right now, honestly. With Dickersons situation and this
- 18:32Speaker 2: front that the Vikings have and all that they do,
- 18:34Speaker 2: because Brian Flores, he's a top three defensive coordinator and
- 18:38Speaker 2: everything he does is so unpredictable. Just and Matt Pryor look,
- 18:42Speaker 2: say what you want, he was what a fifth rounder
- 18:43Speaker 2: and sixth rounder in twenty eighteen here he was a
- 18:48Speaker 2: six Yeah, okay, you know, look he's a he's a
- 18:50Speaker 2: true journeyman. You don't when I'm starting five games. But
- 18:53Speaker 2: playing on him on the right side is the move.
- 18:55Speaker 2: And it's not like And by the way, for those
- 18:57Speaker 2: who asked about their practice squad, I mean I'm looking
- 19:02Speaker 2: at it now. They've got Jake Major who's never really played.
- 19:06Speaker 2: Holland Pierce is not ready to contribute. They got the
- 19:08Speaker 2: international player Felix Fuallo. They don't have anybody. So this
- 19:13Speaker 2: is this is not good man.
- 19:15Speaker 1: No, it's not all right. So if they can get
- 19:19Speaker 1: the run game figured out, the biggest thing as we
- 19:21Speaker 1: move on is what their what their offense in their
- 19:23Speaker 1: pass game is missing. Is the right what we call sequencing.
- 19:28Speaker 1: It is a good marriage between your run game, your
- 19:31Speaker 1: intermediate pass game, which could include RPOs right and then
- 19:34Speaker 1: your deep pass game. And right now, the Eagles are
- 19:37Speaker 1: a shot play offense, and when the shot plays there,
- 19:40Speaker 1: which has happened like within halfs of games, it looks
- 19:42Speaker 1: good and when it's not there, then it's not good.
- 19:45Speaker 1: And it looks like the second half of the Giants game,
- 19:48Speaker 1: it's not good. But I think people who are I
- 19:51Speaker 1: would like to ask our great listeners and great viewers
- 19:55Speaker 1: who are really upset to just refrain from going to
- 19:59Speaker 1: your favorite social media platform and saying Kevin Patulo needs
- 20:02Speaker 1: to be fired, because I feel like we say this
- 20:05Speaker 1: every like two or three years. A guy from a
- 20:08Speaker 1: team that's four and two is not going to get
- 20:11Speaker 1: fired six weeks into this season. And I wrote this
- 20:15Speaker 1: on Philly Voice and I want to repeat it here.
- 20:17Speaker 1: It's very important. Let's not be revisionist historians about the
- 20:21Speaker 1: Eagles offensive coordinators. I already see people saying they miss
- 20:24Speaker 1: Kellen Moore. It's like they only remember the Super Bowl
- 20:27Speaker 1: in the Nison Championship game, and they forgot what the
- 20:29Speaker 1: first weeks of last years year, other than the Green
- 20:34Speaker 1: Bay game. But Adam, the Eagles have scored I wrote
- 20:37Speaker 1: this more points through the first six weeks of this
- 20:40Speaker 1: year than last year. Really, I think people forget. I'm
- 20:44Speaker 1: gonna read it to you right now, all right. The
- 20:47Speaker 1: Eagles scored twenty one points Week two against the Falcons.
- 20:50Speaker 1: They lost that game. They scored fifteen points against the
- 20:53Speaker 1: Saints in Week three, they won that game on that
- 20:55Speaker 1: remember that Fluke sort of mesh touchdown to Dallas Goddard.
- 20:59Speaker 2: That was yeah.
- 21:00Speaker 1: Yeah, they had a lot of injuries, right, scored fifteen
- 21:03Speaker 1: points in that game, all right. They scored sixteen points
- 21:06Speaker 1: the next week against the Bucks, and then out of
- 21:08Speaker 1: the buy they scored twenty against the Browns. They won
- 21:13Speaker 1: a bad game, right, bad performance. Right. So their offense
- 21:17Speaker 1: was terrible through six weeks last year, So let's not
- 21:21Speaker 1: act like Kellen Moore was the greatest thing. At the
- 21:24Speaker 1: end of the year.
- 21:25Speaker 2: He was.
- 21:26Speaker 1: Yeah, the Hegles were a bottom five passing offense last year.
- 21:29Speaker 1: So there's really not much different right now. And I'm
- 21:32Speaker 1: not absolving Petulo. He certainly has to figure things out.
- 21:35Speaker 1: And it's very fair to say that Kellen Moore at
- 21:37Speaker 1: least had experience and so he could adjust along the
- 21:40Speaker 1: way and things got better, which they did a little bit.
- 21:44Speaker 1: But he had the benefit of a great offensive line
- 21:47Speaker 1: and run game, and Petulo hasn't had that.
- 21:49Speaker 2: So we'll get I know, we'll get Greg's notes for
- 21:51Speaker 2: our patron members, so I look forward to perusing them.
- 21:54Speaker 2: And editing them for us. And that's a for twier
- 21:58Speaker 2: three Gregson sense. This is notes and I'm I'm interested
- 22:01Speaker 2: because one of the things I loved about that game
- 22:03Speaker 2: against the Giants from a past game standpoint is they
- 22:06Speaker 2: got got here involved again. Like he he looks or
- 22:08Speaker 2: he looks, he's just he's a beast. I mean, you
- 22:10Speaker 2: can't cover the guy in the open ground. You can't.
- 22:13Speaker 2: He's too big. A J Brown downfield a little bit
- 22:16Speaker 2: that that was good. Some intermedia throws. There's just there
- 22:19Speaker 2: were It wasn't all bad. It's just that when you
- 22:23Speaker 2: can't run the ball and Hurts, he's not been a
- 22:25Speaker 2: factor at all in the run game. This is another
- 22:27Speaker 2: thing I don't Well, I know you're doing the show
- 22:31Speaker 2: with you, you're doing the we'll do the inside of
- 22:34Speaker 2: the tape things. So we ask Greg about that. But
- 22:36Speaker 2: I'm sure on the Tuesday night show that you're gonna
- 22:38Speaker 2: do with Greg, I know it's got to come up. Oh,
- 22:43Speaker 2: I'm sure, yes, God, but what what is he seeing
- 22:45Speaker 2: from We've always said hurts us not explosive, but he's
- 22:48Speaker 2: super strong and tough as a runner. There's just something
- 22:51Speaker 2: weird here, is it? We're just gonna blame it on
- 22:53Speaker 2: the five starting offensive lineman there. They're not as good.
- 22:55Speaker 2: And that's it, is it, Greg? Because Greg said repeatedly
- 22:59Speaker 2: the interior guys don't look the same. We're talking about
- 23:02Speaker 2: Dickerson and Jurgens. Okay, but there's something missing with this
- 23:06Speaker 2: run game other than these guys are playing hurt, beat
- 23:08Speaker 2: up physically. It can't just be all that well. We
- 23:12Speaker 2: need more answers.
- 23:13Speaker 1: Yeah, And by the way, pass protection has generally been good.
- 23:16Speaker 1: Even the time to throw for hurts is pretty high.
- 23:20Speaker 1: So it's not like while they are having struggles in
- 23:23Speaker 1: the run game, they're not like allowing all these pass
- 23:27Speaker 1: rushers to hurts. The Eagles have been getting blitzed a lot,
- 23:30Speaker 1: and that's not always on the offensive line. That's when
- 23:32Speaker 1: you're running back, pickup comes in, or if your quarterback
- 23:36Speaker 1: has to know where there's a free rusher and get
- 23:38Speaker 1: rid of the ball, and all of those have contributed
- 23:40Speaker 1: to a dysfunctional offense. So yeah, this is part of
- 23:43Speaker 1: the love it. This is part of the self scouting process.
- 23:46Speaker 1: Do we need to switch our personnel up front? Do
- 23:49Speaker 1: we need to start running different directions and fooling our
- 23:52Speaker 1: opponents better? And can we start doing things that used
- 23:55Speaker 1: to be successful that we've abandoned, like quarterback runs, which
- 23:59Speaker 1: always keeps defenses on their toes. It makes them scared
- 24:02Speaker 1: to blitz, It makes them it forces them to play
- 24:05Speaker 1: a reluctant style of defense at times if you're afraid
- 24:08Speaker 1: the quarterback is going to break contain. These are all
- 24:10Speaker 1: things that they have to discuss.
- 24:12Speaker 2: Yeah, what before we move to defense, Like there's let's
- 24:15Speaker 2: say there's some specific runs that are not working. Change
- 24:19Speaker 2: it up. Okay, if you're running a lot inside, change
- 24:23Speaker 2: it up a little bit, run more to the right.
- 24:25Speaker 2: That's on the self scout because when you when you
- 24:27Speaker 2: look at predictability, there's certain ways that teams scout. You
- 24:31Speaker 2: and Greg talked about vance. Joseph had them, He had
- 24:34Speaker 2: them totally about what they do, their tendencies. He figured
- 24:37Speaker 2: it out. He thought he gets stuff, and they got it.
- 24:40Speaker 2: Like whatever he expected to get, he got it. He
- 24:43Speaker 2: shut them down.
- 24:44Speaker 1: Yep.
- 24:44Speaker 2: So that that's the thing. You got to change it up.
- 24:46Speaker 2: And then the past game concepts, it's a lot of
- 24:50Speaker 2: it really started in twenty three because no one could
- 24:52Speaker 2: stop their downfield pass game in twenty two. Then it's
- 24:54Speaker 2: like four verts two by two three Byle's. They do
- 24:57Speaker 2: the same bleep every week, so they got to see
- 25:02Speaker 2: what their tenC is. Informationally, personnel groupings change it up.
- 25:07Speaker 2: Which side. We know Hurts like to throw one side
- 25:09Speaker 2: the field, okay, but he's throwing some inside it. You
- 25:12Speaker 2: saw that the crossers shallow Crosses are doing that a
- 25:15Speaker 2: little bit. Those are working to DeVante and Brown a
- 25:18Speaker 2: little bit too goddard. But they've got to figure out
- 25:21Speaker 2: what how are they getting caught with tendencies in their
- 25:26Speaker 2: past game. That's obviously from they are quality control people.
- 25:32Speaker 2: And this is where the four day, well really three days.
- 25:34Speaker 2: What typically happens is on a mini bi is you
- 25:38Speaker 2: give the coaches Friday and Saturday off. They come in Sunday,
- 25:41Speaker 2: they greid the tape. Everything is done before the players
- 25:43Speaker 2: get their Monday morning. They have meetings money more than
- 25:46Speaker 2: they may do. They may do a small practice like
- 25:50Speaker 2: the dreaded ten ten ten what Andy used to do
- 25:52Speaker 2: with Doug Peterson. I don't know what Sirianny does, but
- 25:55Speaker 2: I joked, I said no, I said to Mike go
- 25:57Speaker 2: on Friday, No, they should be in today. I said, no,
- 26:00Speaker 2: they should not evenet the weekend off, get those dudes
- 26:02Speaker 2: in here. This is an embarrassing I'd be so mad
- 26:03Speaker 2: if I'm Siriotti. I know that would not go over
- 26:06Speaker 2: well with the coaches, but you.
- 26:08Speaker 1: Got to do I'm with it, right, Yeah, and hey,
- 26:11Speaker 1: listen on the sequencing that I was talking about and
- 26:14Speaker 1: just the situational football that they're really struggling with. I'm
- 26:17Speaker 1: gonna give you this from inside the data with Sam
- 26:19Speaker 1: all Right. The Eagles have been in third and long,
- 26:22Speaker 1: which is third and seven or more, forty one times
- 26:25Speaker 1: already this year through six games, they have been in
- 26:28Speaker 1: third and short eleven times, and third and mid twenty three.
- 26:32Speaker 1: See if you add up how often they've been in
- 26:34Speaker 1: third and short and third and middle, it's still less
- 26:38Speaker 1: than how long they have been in third and seven
- 26:42Speaker 1: or longer. They are up almost ten percent more of
- 26:46Speaker 1: third and long than they were last year. That just
- 26:49Speaker 1: shows you right now, it's about this. You're not doing
- 26:52Speaker 1: what you need to do on first down so that
- 26:54Speaker 1: you can set up what you want to do on
- 26:55Speaker 1: second down. You're not doing what you're doing on second
- 26:57Speaker 1: down so you can set third down. There's no sequencing,
- 26:59Speaker 1: there's no comp elementary football here. It is just negative
- 27:02Speaker 1: play negative play third and long or positive positive play score.
- 27:06Speaker 1: And then the next three possessions are you know, neutral negative,
- 27:10Speaker 1: punt neutral negative. There's just no rhythm right now. It's
- 27:14Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. The egos have been in third and long
- 27:17Speaker 1: as much as they have been in third and short
- 27:19Speaker 1: and third and medium combined.
- 27:20Speaker 2: That's it's totally unacceptable with the personnel. If they have that,
- 27:23Speaker 2: they have no weakness at receiver or tight end other
- 27:26Speaker 2: than backup tight end and using Lotcha the right way.
- 27:29Speaker 2: We need to play more as an inline tight end.
- 27:31Speaker 2: This is like and you know what Jeffrey Lorie demands
- 27:34Speaker 2: a world class offense. This is this is poor class offense,
- 27:37Speaker 2: is what it is.
- 27:38Speaker 1: All right, defensively, let's get to the defense here and
- 27:42Speaker 1: this is sort of self scout and then like in
- 27:44Speaker 1: your control and out of control. Out of control is
- 27:46Speaker 1: for the moment with to Corey and Bennett on ir
- 27:50Speaker 1: and your health issues at corner. I mean they had
- 27:53Speaker 1: to play Adri Jackson and Killer Ringo. You know they
- 27:56Speaker 1: didn't want to go in the year ever having to
- 27:58Speaker 1: play those two guys as you're just you have to
- 28:00Speaker 1: hope that Quinya Mitchell heels quickly from the hamstring, but
- 28:04Speaker 1: that that is a out of control issue. What's in
- 28:06Speaker 1: their control is that And I wrote, you know I
- 28:09Speaker 1: wrote this. You could point the finger out how he
- 28:10Speaker 1: rose wouldn't say he didn't do a good job of
- 28:12Speaker 1: replacing Isaiah Rodgers in the off season. And you know
- 28:14Speaker 1: you trade for a guy, but there's no no shretshot
- 28:17Speaker 1: to Corey and Bennett was going to be good or greater,
- 28:19Speaker 1: And we don't know because he hasn't played. He hasn't
- 28:22Speaker 1: yet been the guy for Vic Fangio.
- 28:25Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing with Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, Jalen
- 28:30Speaker 2: Naylor is a pretty good backup Adam Feelin. By the way, Hockinson,
- 28:34Speaker 2: this is not what you wanttic late receiver when you've
- 28:37Speaker 2: got Quinya Mitchell a hamster injury he had testing Friday.
- 28:40Speaker 2: There's been no reporting that I've seen that would suggests
- 28:43Speaker 2: he's definitely going to be out. But that can't be good.
- 28:44Speaker 2: Look he was he never came back at the game
- 28:47Speaker 2: right with the Hampshire injury. Yeah, as you said, he'll
- 28:49Speaker 2: have more time to recover. But they are literally a
- 28:54Speaker 2: centimeter fin like, they are so paper thin. A corner
- 28:57Speaker 2: like this is right now, their healthy corners are Adri Jackson,
- 29:03Speaker 2: Keey Ringo and Perry Nickerson and Mac mcwollins who didn't dress.
- 29:09Speaker 2: Sure they could play Degeena at corner. They absolutely can
- 29:11Speaker 2: do that. He was drafted to play corner. Everything changed
- 29:14Speaker 2: since then. We know that they've got mccomba and Blankship anyway, safety,
- 29:19Speaker 2: They could put mcmick Williams at nickel, Parry Nickerson could
- 29:22Speaker 2: play nickel, so they have some options and quite frankly,
- 29:25Speaker 2: I'd love to see Gugina corner. I want to see
- 29:27Speaker 2: because he could be that this could be a future position.
- 29:29Speaker 2: Who knows, but this this is an absolute nightmare. Think
- 29:33Speaker 2: about it, right, Ringo gets benched during the game, Jackson
- 29:38Speaker 2: because of the quinia, Mitchrondrey both have to play at
- 29:41Speaker 2: the same time, and it obviously as bad as you
- 29:43Speaker 2: would think. They barely threw the football, which still was
- 29:45Speaker 2: bad going against backups for the Giants receiver because remember
- 29:50Speaker 2: Darrek Slayton didn't play with his hamstring and neighbors out
- 29:52Speaker 2: for the season and they still couldn't shut him down.
- 29:55Speaker 1: Right, Well, I think you're bringing up a really interesting
- 29:58Speaker 1: point Parry Nickerson is not your normal practice squad guy.
- 30:02Speaker 1: He's been in the NFL for for quite a bit.
- 30:04Speaker 1: He's been on some teams. He's a perfect slot corner
- 30:07Speaker 1: if you're if you don't have QUINNYA. Mitchell, does it
- 30:09Speaker 1: make sense to play Cooper de Gene full time outside
- 30:12Speaker 1: corner against the Vikings and just take your shot with yes,
- 30:16Speaker 1: somebody else at the slot?
- 30:17Speaker 2: I don't.
- 30:17Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that that maybe is a
- 30:19Speaker 1: bad decision.
- 30:20Speaker 2: What what But here's the I'm gonna throw it back
- 30:22Speaker 2: to you. What what choice do they have?
- 30:24Speaker 1: The choice would be going with with ringoing with with No. No,
- 30:30Speaker 1: That's that's how you really feel about that, Adam, No,
- 30:33Speaker 1: It's just it's this is absurd, right. Well, yeah, it
- 30:36Speaker 1: feels like you're not playing your best. You're not putting
- 30:39Speaker 1: your players in the best position to look.
- 30:41Speaker 2: I don't care what Vic thinks. You gotta do. You know,
- 30:44Speaker 2: he could whatever. He he loves him with Nickel, I
- 30:47Speaker 2: get it. He's a dynamic nickel player. He's phenomenal Degene. Yeah,
- 30:50Speaker 2: you gotta do what's best for your football team. He has,
- 30:53Speaker 2: by the way, to fix credit some things we thought
- 30:56Speaker 2: he might do he didn't do you know he people
- 30:59Speaker 2: pitching hold and being all school, but he's forward thinking
- 31:02Speaker 2: about what the league is trending to the Cooper is
- 31:05Speaker 2: a super freak athlete. You could play corner, he could
- 31:08Speaker 2: play nickel, he could play safety. Yeah, and they're running,
- 31:11Speaker 2: they're out of corners. The best corner of the team
- 31:13Speaker 2: is Quinnion Mitchell, right, sure, the second best one is
- 31:17Speaker 2: Cooper de Gene.
- 31:18Speaker 1: That's right.
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- 33:50Speaker 1: exactly playing great himself so lately. I know it has
- 33:55Speaker 1: some issues the last year and now here this he's
- 33:56Speaker 1: a rookie, Yeah, growing pains, it's gonna happen. Any reason
- 34:00Speaker 1: to be down on him, but Vick has been saying
- 34:03Speaker 1: it in the press conferences, sort of saying he needs
- 34:06Speaker 1: to do better at this. He's got to learn this.
- 34:08Speaker 1: You know, he's not not there yet, but he's giving
- 34:10Speaker 1: the opportunity to learn on the fly. Sometimes he makes
- 34:13Speaker 1: good plays, but the last two games he's you know,
- 34:16Speaker 1: not shined. Let's just say that.
- 34:18Speaker 2: Yeah. And on the practice squad, they've got Ambry Thomas, who,
- 34:22Speaker 2: by the way, at one point was starting for the Niners,
- 34:24Speaker 2: who's he's had injury history out of Michigan. I remember him,
- 34:29Speaker 2: yet another yet another former forty nine er draft pick,
- 34:34Speaker 2: a third rounder in twenty twenty one. And then they
- 34:38Speaker 2: also have on the practice squad they've got Eli Rix's back.
- 34:43Speaker 2: He's the fourth of he's really a fifth corner. So
- 34:45Speaker 2: they've got a problem here, Yeah, justin Jefferson. Can you
- 34:48Speaker 2: just imagine if if for some reason they decide that
- 34:54Speaker 2: they're not like Quinnon's out and they decide that they're
- 34:57Speaker 2: not gonna move Coop to corner and they're going go
- 34:59Speaker 2: through he will, I'm telling you even if went Wentz
- 35:02Speaker 2: by the way, played out of his lights out in
- 35:05Speaker 2: the game against uh, was it Cleveland for the for
- 35:08Speaker 2: the buye?
- 35:10Speaker 1: It was Cleveland?
- 35:11Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, he put he he turned the ball over
- 35:13Speaker 2: a little bit, but they had a bunch of drops
- 35:14Speaker 2: against Pittsburgh, Right, But I know with Wentz that the
- 35:18Speaker 2: mechanics go at any time, but he looked healthy. Someone
- 35:20Speaker 2: who grated the tape told me he said he was
- 35:22Speaker 2: kind of surprised that he played as well as he did.
- 35:24Speaker 2: I was like, all right, we'll have to ask Greg
- 35:25Speaker 2: what he thought. We'll do that this week. But if
- 35:27Speaker 2: it is Wentz, they're gonna throw the football and Justin
- 35:30Speaker 2: Jefferson's having two hundred yards and to get the secondary.
- 35:32Speaker 2: I'm telling you, man, a minimum for fantasy one fifty.
- 35:36Speaker 2: I'm telling you one fifty easy. If if it's got
- 35:40Speaker 2: to be Ringo or or Dewey Jackson, I'm telling you, well,
- 35:44Speaker 2: that's a.
- 35:44Speaker 1: Good parlay as we as we look at the Viking situation,
- 35:47Speaker 1: because is it definitely going to be Carson Wentz. They're
- 35:50Speaker 1: coming off there by. I think it's right around the
- 35:53Speaker 1: time McCarthy is supposed to be. They're gonna supposed to be.
- 35:56Speaker 1: How he's doing from the high ankle spreen.
- 35:58Speaker 2: Yes, yes. And there offensive line really banged up, so
- 36:01Speaker 2: Brian Brian O'Neal the right tackle. Uh, he didn't play
- 36:05Speaker 2: in their last game with a knee injury. Donovan Jackson
- 36:07Speaker 2: their first rounder with the wrist injury, miss the last
- 36:10Speaker 2: two games. Ryan Kelly is second concussion. He's on injury reserve.
- 36:14Speaker 2: Michael Jorgens's backup didn't play, so you know, like they've
- 36:17Speaker 2: got offensive line problems. That does help the Eagles a
- 36:19Speaker 2: little bit. We'll learn more as the week progresses. But uh,
- 36:23Speaker 2: the thing is, man this cornerback position, and we'll we'll
- 36:26Speaker 2: give you what. We're still a decent time away from
- 36:31Speaker 2: the trade deadline though, teams already trading, and we know
- 36:34Speaker 2: where the Eagles is going to go. Where they're going
- 36:36Speaker 2: to go at corners that are nuber one need by
- 36:37Speaker 2: far nothing who matches it? Yeah, could they use help
- 36:39Speaker 2: at edge? They have enough of them, but they don't
- 36:41Speaker 2: have an a level pass rusher. Right, But the problem
- 36:43Speaker 2: is when you talk to teams, a lot of teams
- 36:45Speaker 2: are looking for corners, a lot of teams are looking
- 36:47Speaker 2: for edges. So good luck.
- 36:48Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the Dolphins have a couple edges. We'll see,
- 36:51Speaker 1: but I'm sure they're going to get everybody's Bradley Chubb.
- 36:55Speaker 2: Now they're not trading Chop Robinson.
- 36:57Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Phillips, maybe we'll see phil Phillips.
- 37:01Speaker 2: Uh, he had a rush on Sunday where he didn't
- 37:03Speaker 2: wrap the guy up. But yeah, so we'll look more
- 37:07Speaker 2: about it in the coming days. But the bottom line
- 37:10Speaker 2: is deals hopefully use their time off wisely because the
- 37:13Speaker 2: man they have a lot of corrections.
- 37:15Speaker 1: My goodness, and listen, we're gonna cover everything that goes
- 37:18Speaker 1: on with the Eagles this week. We'll have Inside the Tape.
- 37:21Speaker 1: We'll have Birds weekly, we'll have Inside the Bird BCB show.
- 37:25Speaker 1: Who's our guest for the Tuesday show.
- 37:28Speaker 2: Matt Merrow, Thank you for getting Mike. Mike Mamulla. We
- 37:31Speaker 2: got Mike. He's phenomenal. He's a riot. He Mike and
- 37:36Speaker 2: I have got to know each other over the years. Incredible.
- 37:39Speaker 2: He is, obviously everyone knows. He's the reason why people
- 37:42Speaker 2: like the combine. We'll get it. It's gonna be me, Me,
- 37:45Speaker 2: Me and mal Reice. We're Chicken Pete's on Tuesday, six o'clock.
- 37:48Speaker 2: Please come by and say hello, maryl of course, will
- 37:50Speaker 2: sign autogress.
- 37:52Speaker 1: That's great.
- 37:52Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I cannot wait. Oh man, I
- 37:55Speaker 2: wish we had two hours for it, you know, but
- 37:58Speaker 2: I asked. I texted my a couple of weeks ago.
- 38:01Speaker 2: He just got back from Italy. But he's gonna be
- 38:03Speaker 2: ready to go and I cannot wait to talk to
- 38:05Speaker 2: Mike's gon be great, all.
- 38:07Speaker 1: Right, So that'll be another great one and uh, we
- 38:10Speaker 1: will have plenty of great coverage this week on Inside
- 38:14Speaker 1: the Birds. That's gonna do it for this edition of
- 38:16Speaker 1: the Inside the Birds podcast. As always, we thank you
- 38:21Speaker 1: for flying with us Inside the Birds