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#663: The Bequest | Andy Wakefield · Macroaggressions

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You guys are gonna enjoy this when we've had the pleasure of
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speaking with dr. Andrew Wakefield
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before and
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doctor who wants to take care of humanity and now he's found a way to do it through films and most recently
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Through a new book. So please enjoy our my conversation with the great Andy Wakefield. Well, it's always nice to speak with
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Andy Wakefield I
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Every time I look you up online though to find out what you're doing more recently
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They never miss an opportunity to call you a disgraced doctor
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So it's great we love disgraced doctors so it's our it's always a pleasure to have you back
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What is going on? How are you doing since we last spoke? I know you've always got projects
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In the works and then given the nature of feature films that you know
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You're always working on something a few years ahead of schedule
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So what have you been doing for over the last two years since we last connected? Well two projects really one is
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the one that's really
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dear to my heart most immediately is
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The bequest and the bequest was written as a screenplay many years ago
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back in 2012 and
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These things you you put them on the shelf and you think I'll come back to it and revise it in a
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Year or so and when it's right the time is right
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I'll make the movie or I'll try and make the movie and
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and
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Hollywood is in a difficult place at the moment and getting funding for independent film is
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Is not easy and so my assistant said to me you need to write this as a book write this story as a book
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The bequest and get it out there, and I thought hell, you know
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She's absolutely right. That's what I need to do
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So I did it and the book comes out on
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Friday the 26th. I the show will go out a little later than that but
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On the website the bequest
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Dot co dot co the bequest dot co, please take a look
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It's a lot of fun and it's a it's a very interesting story. It's a fictional
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narrative and
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That is it
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Okay
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Fictional narrative
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Collection of life events perhaps rolled into a fictional character
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How it came to be an interesting story unusual and that is I was an autism conference giving a lecture and
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One of the parents who had helped organize the conference a mother
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She had a teenage son severely affected non-verbal and
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Here her only child and she took me out for dinner that night
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And over dinner. She asked me if I would father a child for her
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Now you may think what an odd thing to bring up on the Charlie Robinson show
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But it wasn't it was what she was asking was symptomatic of a very very big problem in autism
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And that is this the thing that keeps
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Millions of parents across this country around the world awake every night is what happens
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To my child when I'm no longer there
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when I become infirm or die what happens to my child and
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I
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Was so her motives were entirely sincere
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She wasn't interested in a night of passion with Andy Wakefield
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What she wanted was to conceive a healthy child to protect her son
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When she was no longer around and this is it I was so moved by this request
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So inspired I said to her that night and I said I'm gonna this is a screenplay
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I'm gonna tell this story
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This is a story that the world needs to hear because what happens in these circumstances is
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the care of
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The individual with autism falls to the siblings
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But what if what if there are no siblings?
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What if there aren't any
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um
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And having an altar a child with autism is often a reason that parents cite for not going on and having other children
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We don't we can't risk having another child with autism. So
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It's a real issue and a
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Devastating issue because the parents know that the world doesn't understand their child doesn't
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Care about their child and most certainly doesn't love them
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And so I wanted to write a story about this and I wanted to do another thing as well and that is to
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Take it away from the issue of causation
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To not get embroiled in the vaccine issue
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That's got a life of its own now and indeed we're prevailing
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On that front all the science now that's coming in is says there is a major problem
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With autism and the childhood vaccine schedule. So put that to one side focus on this issue
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What happens when I'm no longer there?
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And so I wrote a western
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It's set in 1867 on the oregon trail in one of the harshest environments
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imaginable on the american frontier
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And um, I wanted to do that because I wanted to for the mother and her child
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The protagonist and her son. I wanted to make this
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Just the most brutal environment in which they had to survive
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Or not and so that is the book the bequest and it
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It's a very powerful story. I think it but you're absolutely right. It's based upon
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A series of true events. It's based upon reality and the reality that these parents face every day
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What happens
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Currently in a situation
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like this if if there's a
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The mother is is older passes away
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then
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What's the role of the state in deciding who takes
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control of a
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Person who maybe an adult and let's say an adult who's infirm adult with autism
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Um
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There are no siblings. It's that situation. Somebody's got to take him
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Does the state get involved currently? Is that a big gray area? Uh, how it is
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What what is the current situation simply not
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Prepared to deal with this tsunami of affected individuals. It it can't do it part of the reason is it's in a state of denial
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The the experts are arguing that there is no epidemic of autism
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That we're simply better at making the diagnosis. This is that is extraordinarily
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the vanity the hubris that
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Really leads to them countenance in that argument
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Um, it is nonsensical in for example in island just as in this country
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One in 12 boys
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Now have a diagnosis of autism and this isn't mild autism
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It's not just that we expanded the definition and therefore we're including milder cases. No, no, no
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Many many of these individuals have the most severe forms of autism. So
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Had it been there historically we would have
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Picked it up. We would have known about it. It is an epidemic and even the experts are now
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Having to become reconciled to the fact that there is a genuine epidemic, but that attitude
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Has really conditioned. I think the approach of government local and federal to
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This problem and that is to there is no problem
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It's always been there same rate nothing to do nothing to see here
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Absolutely wrong. So what happens when the federal authorities fail?
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well
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What happened to me when I got involved in this
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Years and years ago first became involved a spate of
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Parents not only taking their own lives but taking their children's lives with them
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Jumping from viaducts
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Stabbing the child to death and then taking an overdose
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The media saying the parent hated their child and wanted them dead. No
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Nothing could have been further from the truth and we made a
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My first film was called who killed alex border larkis and it dealt with exactly this issue
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desperate parents nowhere to go
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Run out of options run out of money
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No, no home to live in living
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you know hotel to motel
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and
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Just broken by this by everything that had happened with the system
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completely failing to intervene to step up and do anything about it
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and
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A catastrophe is a consequence
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So we have an aging population. They're moving into memory care facilities. There's a big market for that
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Insurance companies are involved. It's it's quite expensive and it's not for everybody
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Long-term care facilities are the
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privatization in the united states of everything recently has gone bonkers with
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Private equity coming in and buying up large groups. I don't know there would be
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feasible to find a
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family-run
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Institution anymore to just take your
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to agree to adopt your
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Autistic adult son when you pass away
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What what's the role of charities in this? Uh, who who is stepping up to fill the gap?
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Has the the wave hasn't even been factored in
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To to to to where we're going because we're not even
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Remotely there yet. What who's who's the who's the stopgap measure right now for this?
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Well, the cost of care is huge because many of these individuals
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Can't care for themselves at all. They need 24 seven
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Monitoring and care. Um, there are no there are very few facilities available
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and they're really only for the the few the minority of parents who
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Have saved up invested in this or have sufficient funds to make provision
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One exception is my friend and colleague poly tummy who
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works for
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maha and
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for the for children's health defense
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And she has created a farm
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Where it's you know, it's called the autism trust and it its intention is to provide long term
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For these for these individuals so that they can live as independently as possible
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But be safe and well looked after
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In the right environment and so that's here in Austin, Texas, but
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that's
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relatively
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Almost unheard of
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That's the kind of facility that need is needed
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nationwide
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All right, so is there a
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Entrepreneurial component to this that somebody can can
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Do do good and do well at the same time and make some money building
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Facilities that to to to house the the the future influx of these people and find
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A way to get it financed
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I'm trying to think of a way to do that without getting the state involved because it would of course get
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Or the pharmaceutical industry would be even worse, but
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Is there a path towards creating privatizing maybe even a way to
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I think of this be only because I drove by a memory care facility that was being built for three years
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And watched the construction of that every every week
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And knew that they were pouring a ton of money in there and I know the rates they're getting and i'm just wondering if they're going to take that
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formula for memory care and
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Long-term care and and then try and make a rebrand it or make an entire new segment
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Focusing exclusively on autism and how that might be a solution
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But it might also be kind of gross once you start to to monetize this
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I think there are two problems one is that it's at the end of the day someone is going to have to pay for it
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Whether it's private getting you know grants from the government or whether it's the federal agencies directly
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It and it's incredibly expensive imagine that you know memory care
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Usually involves people of a certain age
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You know elderly people whereas these are young adults who've got their lives in front of them who have otherwise
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a relatively normal life expectancy
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The the cost is is astronomical. It's
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I know there are huge demands on the federal budget on the taxpayer, but i'm afraid this is
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One that is inevitable
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And what's bizarre about it as far as i'm concerned is
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They don't seem to care
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if it runs contrary to pharmaceutical industry profiteering or
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government policy or federal agency policy
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Then it it doesn't exist
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And you know, this is really what happened to me
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um, but this is so much more
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Important what happens to these individuals in the long term
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But in a state of denial
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Then there's going to be no acceptance that there's liability and therefore it needs to be funded, but i'm afraid
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That ultimately this is going to fall
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to the taxpayer
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And it should fall on the pharmaceutical
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Industry, and they would have more than enough money to cover this
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But we've got an apparatus
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in place right now that prevents that is there a path towards
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Removing that is this you know the autism epidemic is becoming undeniable though they try
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but now we've got
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A secondary component, which is a new batch of people are waking up after the covid vaccines
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Is there now maybe an appetite towards removing
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the 1986
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Protection act there is a big move to certainly revise it and hopefully
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Remove it all together
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It there is a danger that the pharmaceutical industry have such an influence
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over the american government that they will
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Recraft it in a way that suits them even better and that needs to be avoided
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It it it's it's a very difficult one
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I agree the pharmaceutical industry should be made to pay and therefore
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What we need is to establish liability what we need to establish liability is the science and fortunately
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bobby kennedy is in the white house and is demanding is
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initiating that science now so
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But the latest paper that came out
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a review of all
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136
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Papers all studies that have looked at this or purported to look at it and it's come to the conclusion that
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early childhood vaccines on the childhood vaccine schedule
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Are the most modifiable risk factor for autism spectrum disorder in other words it can be prevented
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And if we go on accumulating cases then the problems obviously just going to get
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Greater and greater and greater so someone has got to take that very very seriously and this is a paper
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published by peter mccullough who came to sort of global fame
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In exposing the lies of the covid pandemic and the covid vaccine
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And the most published cardiologist in the history of this planet
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And so a highly respected and respectable scientist
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And people need to take this very very seriously the power of film
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Which is you know what i have been working on
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Is manifest in in the fact that vaxed you'll remember vaxed vaxed had a huge impact on people that at the moment
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there are a series of hearings
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in the senate under ron johnson on vaccines and
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covid and covid vaccines childhood vaccines
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And that was initiated it was stimulated by him watching vaxed he said that changed my mind
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So the power of film to effect change is enormous and
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That's something that i'm very much invested in
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Well, i saw vaxed in the theater
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In in denver and my wife saw it with me and then
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Went the following day and took her mother with her to say you know, hey
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See it this way or or what do you think and and what was
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Remarkable
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Though not entirely surprising in retrospect was that her response after i mean after watching that movie
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The lights come on in the theater
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Turned her and go well and her response was i don't get it
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And and you and you go
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How
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How do you how do you not get it the the power
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of that film
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Power of film in in general, but that film in particular it's
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It to me it was undeniable, but it but it it reminded me that there
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Exists in the minds of people a psychological barrier that they they simply can't they feel maybe they're they're being
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Disrespectful to medicine or to the science or that there's a there's some sort of psychological
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wall that is
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In in in the minds of some people so it's nice to hear that
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Senator johnson was able to to watch that movie
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And the wall wasn't there because of course he's in an industry that's financially incentivized to always see the wall
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Right and so for a guy like that to have that moment that I that's that feels very positive and optimistic for me
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Yeah, it's it's part of it the big change that's going on and the point you raised about
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Covid is few things have changed people's minds like covid
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It's extraordinary how the world has woken up and particularly at this moment
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Fouchies lies are being exposed time and time again by people like ram paul
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It's out there in the media not carried by the mainstream media, of course because
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their sponsorship comes from the
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manufacturers of these
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Pharmaceuticals of these vaccines so
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But there is a huge amount of activity that's going on. They know it's coming
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They know it's coming. It's a question of
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Getting their bonus and moving on before it does come before the tsunami hits
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And sort of reaping their personal benefits. That's what they're interested in. They're not interested in the
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longevity of their company
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they're interested in cashing out and
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Making as much as they can I'm afraid and that's the nature of the beast
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Yeah, and we know that this is what's happening because we read the spars pandemic document that simulated
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of an outbreak of a
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coronavirus and then role played
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the response to it and when you overlay that on top of what happened in in reality with the covid
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You found there were so many
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Similarities that was uncanny. I mean even down to the fictional wrapper that they used to to sell it to the
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to the
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inner city
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Everything about it felt felt very much like we were getting a glimpse into the future and in that document
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It shows that the head of the cdc or the the fictional document says has this head of the cdc being
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Run out in the fouchy character essentially being run out
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So it feels a little bit like maybe we're playing out
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Some sort of script or some sort of live action role play or something
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I don't know my little tin foil hat comes out whenever I start seeing similarities like that. What about you?
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Absolutely, you know, I've lived on the inside of this for a long time now and nothing surprises me but
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their behavior
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I
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It's it's a terrible thing to say there are if there is an upside if there is a silver lining to the cloud of covid
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It is the expose. It's the fact that now people
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Are aware of who they're dealing with when I first got involved
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With autism I was presented with two conflicting
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Sets of arguments one from the parents who said this is what happened to my child
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This is how the problem manifests. This is what's made them better or worse
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And the experts are you know, no, that's all wrong. That's all wrong. No epidemic
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Children don't regress. There's no recovery. Put them in a home. Forget about them. Have another child
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No bowel disease
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The the experts were completely wrong and now there's a prayer I say every morning and that is god save us from experts
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I think I should be saying it more often
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What are the current autism rates
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In in the united states we've I know it's different for boys and girls and and
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They're not it's not it hasn't trended in in the right direction. I'm assuming
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The absolute numbers are difficult to calculate and that is because
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Let's say take new jersey or california. They've had
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established systems for ascertaining individuals with autism over a very long period
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And they've used the same criteria the same
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Diagnosticians
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And so they have a very much more accurate
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Representation there of the real numbers. It's not that they are any greater
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Than other states. It's just that there. I believe their ascertainment
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Is more complete
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So there we're looking at you know, one in 15 boys one in 12 boys that kind of thing
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Oh, it's more common in boys than girls
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And that's the same number is seen in north myelin is seen in
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The united kingdom overall
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So those are the sort of global rates for a disease that was one in
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10 000 when I first got into medicine
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Is this
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Is the autism epidemic limited to western
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Nations or is this something that we see in
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sub-saharan africa
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South asia in these very populist countries. Are they running at a high rate as well?
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Because if they are given their population rate and their current population levels
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They must be experiencing epidemics as well. But is this is limited to western nations?
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it was
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It seems that it was that what the the rates in east africa for example or in
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countries like thailand
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Were the same as they ever were there was nothing they didn't even have a word
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for autism
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until
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things changed public health policy became and was imposed on them by
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the world health organization unicef and others becoming
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Integrated into those societies
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and
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They those countries have said now we have autism. We never had it before we didn't recognize it if we had no word for it and now
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Where has it come from? And so there is a
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Even though the absolute numbers lag
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Countries like the united states and western europe
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Over time it appears that
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They will increase and increase and increase
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to match those
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Excuse me, so it's it's becoming a global problem
31:59
There's a Kissinger memo
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from december 10th 1974
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national security council memorandum 200
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And it identifies it says that the united states policy moving forward
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In the third world is quote that of depopulation
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and then he laid out a
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a path
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for
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Governments of these he identified 13 countries by name and then laid out a pathway for the
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the government
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And our government to partner up with a third party
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An NGO type they left that open to interpretation
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World health organization fits the bill gates foundation these days as well
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What's what has been your experience dealing with
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These groups the you know, I mean the the world health organization is
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actively involved in depopulating
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Yet, they're the ones who are going to try and sell you that vaccines are safe
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What's been your experience interacting with them? Well, it's interesting. I've been people would ask me this question
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At conferences
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Professionals would ask me this question. Do you think that this is a deliberate policy?
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Do you think vaccination policy is being used as a way
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of
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depopulation
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And bill gates quoted that it was
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He said we can reduce population rates if we institute vaccination schedules
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Which is a little alarming
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very alarming
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And I but I I thought to myself at the time when I was asked this question
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This is a what an extraordinarily clumsy way of doing it
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who are you trying to
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Depopulate it because the people who are going to get access to these vaccines first and foremost and they're going to be
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Maybe the professional classes, you know who want to emulate what's going on in the
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In america and elsewhere and so you're going to be damaging your
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your
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The the wealthier population perhaps the employees I the employers I but I thought I wasn't sure about it and then I
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Was asked to direct and and make a film with bobby kennedy
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about
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This very issue in east africa
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Was taking place elsewhere around the world and what they had done with funding from the gates foundation
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Is to embark on a deliberate depopulation program
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And what they had done is taken the tetanus vaccine
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and
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integrated into the tetanus vaccine
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A molecule
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That was identical to human koreanic gonadotrophin hcg
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Hcg is essential for the maintenance of a healthy pregnancy
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A woman produces it during pregnancy and it protects
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the growing fetus
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What they were doing by giving an injection of hcg
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Is for mothers to produce an immune response
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Against hcg and therefore they would have bought their pregnancies or couldn't get pregnant in our first place
35:31
It was a deliberate calculated strategy to prevent mothers from conceiving the mothers
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Knew nothing about this at all
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They were told that they were being given
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tetanus vaccine to protect their babies from neonatal tetanus
35:51
That might come from a contaminated bottle or a contaminated wound. Sometimes they would rub
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cow dung on the
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umbilical cord stump
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As a traditional way of dealing with preventing infection
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And so babies would develop some babies would develop tetanus and this was being used this
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Vaccine strategy was being used to protect the knee. No, it wasn't
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No, it wasn't it was being done to render these women infertile to abort
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Absolutely staggering and so when I made that movie and this is not
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A secret they're published papers from india talking about their development of this vaccine the purpose of their
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Developing this vaccine and its deployment
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in the third world so
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This was out in the open
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I was absolutely staggered
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And the lack of informed consent these poor mothers not told at all
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Had no idea what they were getting involved in treating them
36:57
I just it's staggering. I got the words fail me
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I just wrapped up a book on eugenics that I'm writing and and I you know
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You have no choice but to go there to to to to see what they did in kenya
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And and it's not accidental. It's a it's a pattern of
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of
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of behavior of
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planning
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And you know their their excuses were always
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You know when kissinger was giving them they were less scientific and more geopolitical
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It was well
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We have to protect the stability of our business interests in the region and make sure that the population doesn't get out of hand
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but
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You read their their writings the classified memos that later get declassified
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It's like look peering into the mind of a psychopath
37:52
The way they they manage the human farm. I mean did
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Have you gotten the vibe that they view the rest of us as
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animals on their animal farm expendable? Oh, totally expendable
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You know, what how what did kissinger call it the the um
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The useless eaters was one of his favorite ones. That's right useless eaters
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These people had no role in the world other than to consume food unnecessarily that could have gone
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Someone else including him. I useless eaters
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staggering
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Absolutely staggering, but there it was. Yeah, I I at that point I was
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utterly convinced by the data
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Written by them that this is what they were involved in depopulation
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And so it stands to reason
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that with any of these tactics, whether it's a
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CIA regime change operation mind control or
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Thinning the herd through eugenics and depopulation
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Eventually these tactics will be used against
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Americans, right the the this will come home to roost as they say
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Are we living through a
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Depopulation event and is autism one?
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Angle of that
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Yes, I think the obvious answer to that is just look at covid
39:24
There we had an untested shot that was developed
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For commercial reasons by people who had an insane belief that they could get away with this
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That the safety studies were unnecessary that their word was all that was needed
39:39
I mean absolutely disgraceful that it was ever allowed to happen that tony fouchy was ever allowed to assume the level of
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power
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completely unelected official
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That he was able to
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Reek this havoc on on on the world but peter dazak and others
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But that has done so much harm not only from the
40:06
Since the since synthesized virus itself, but from the attempts to
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Well the prevention of the use of effective treatments to save people's lives stopping that from happening
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For commercial reasons to make the vaccine the one and only option
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And then giving I hesitate to call it a vaccine, but let's call it that for now
40:32
that to give the shot
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Untested and it's caused
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Massive harm
40:41
So and yet they still push it because they cannot be wrong
40:44
It's too big
40:45
For them to lose if they lose this they've lost everything will they have let there is a message for you guys
40:51
You have the public no longer trust you they simply don't trust you
40:57
You've lost public confidence in public health policy makers in yourselves and you only have
41:02
Yourselves to blame
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Don't blame me you don't blame charlie for us talking on this show. You only have yourselves to blame
41:10
You have created this disaster
41:13
Do we have any numbers on the aftermath of the
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Vaccine related deaths
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Vaccine related injuries from the covet shots is there
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Is there a way is there a country you mentioned certain states were pretty good at collecting data
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Was there a state that was good at it? Was there a country that was following this? I mean that I feel like
41:38
I've heard some numbers. I don't know if they're anchored in reality or not
41:42
But but what is the damage that's been done that we can measure and quantify in the aftermath of these covet vaccines?
41:49
Charlie, I don't know
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I do not know there is a system called veirs the vaccine adverse events reporting system
41:58
when cdc and
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The fda run that together and it's government funded and it's meant to collect all adverse reactions to all vaccines
42:09
And it collects one percent less than one percent and that's based on a harvard study
42:16
Not only that was there was a deliberate policy. It seems to underestimate
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vastly underestimate
42:24
The true adverse reaction rate to the covet shot deliberately to order it down
42:30
To play it, you know play it safe for them
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And so the numbers are
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In you know, they're unbelievable
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You can't believe what you see because there has been this deliberate policy to
42:44
To sanitize those numbers in their favor
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Uh, it's it's an enormous amount and there are better people to answer that question than I am
42:53
I tend to forget numbers as soon as I learn them
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so
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Yeah, it's it's a a lot of people and a lot of people young people
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The mortality in young people from heart disease has been huge
43:10
Now in the aftermath of this a lot of opinions have changed about vaccines
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Have you not that you would want to you know celebrate anything
43:22
Like this it's it's but has is there some vindication in your work people who were previously
43:30
Not receptive to your message. Have they
43:33
Come back into your circle and and said hey, I'm I'm seeing things differently in the aftermath
43:39
Maybe I couldn't I didn't have the eyes to see it with autism because I
43:43
I fully vaccinated my kids and bought into it and so you know, but now
43:48
Something happened. I'm now starting to ask questions that I didn't ask before and how is the response to to you
43:57
Been in the aftermath of of this
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It's been very much more accepting
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People have
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Been apologetic. It doesn't matter the truth is charlie. It the issues at stake are far more important than
44:13
the vindication of annie wakefield
44:16
The issue is critical obviously
44:19
But what happens to these
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damaged individuals in the long term is
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Is is the issue for me?
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so
44:32
Instinctively and according to my
44:34
Everything all my all my medical training pursuing this was the right thing to do
44:39
it has turned out to be
44:42
correct and
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That is an unavoidable truth now
44:47
And now my job is to help deal with the aftermath of that
44:52
and
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hopefully bring justice
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To those who have been harmed
45:00
What about vaxed the movie has it had a resurgence in the aftermath of this as it has been given a second look by people?
45:08
I'd say yeah, and it's moved on to vax two three and four. I think it's
45:12
Polly and her team have been instrumental in
45:17
Brian burrows and and
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Toby tommy have been in developing
45:22
new films and not the latest film that's just come out was the
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um
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I think it's called duty to disobey
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And it's about the military being forced into
45:34
covid
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vaccination, so uh, I I think that's the right title
45:39
I've cut it right, but anyway, so they've they've continued with those that vax legacy and the film itself vaxed is still
45:47
Very very popular and all of these films are available if you go to that website for the new book
45:52
The big quest co all the films can be accessed from there including the infertility film with bobby kennedy
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How's protocol seven doing
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protocol seven it won 34 film awards
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Which is dangerously respectable for me. I'm pretty good. Oh, no
46:12
It was a lot of fun. I loved making that film. It was my first
46:17
full-length narrative feature film
46:20
I love working with actors, you know, we
46:23
had um some very very fine actors people who in many cases had lost their jobs
46:30
on set or
46:33
Contracts that were coming up because they had said no, we're not going to get the covid shot
46:38
And that was a no no in the industry you get it or you don't act you don't perform
46:44
and they had maintained their position they'd stood their ground and
46:48
They were looking for work. And so the great thing is protocol seven. We were able to bring those people on and give them
46:55
A job we didn't make any conditions about vaccination. You could have had it or not. That's your choice, but we're not going to
47:05
Prejudice our position against you if you have not or have had it
47:11
In is that uh, I'm assuming that's a policy moving forward with you guys. Are you are you having
47:18
Do you have a production crew?
47:21
Actors who who actively seek you out because they want to work in an environment that's ideologically aligned with their beliefs as well
47:29
Do you get people
47:31
Coming to austin to seek you out
47:33
We do get people
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Showing a great interest. Yes who who specifically decided that they want to act on the one hand
47:40
But they're not prepared to get the shot
47:44
on the other hand and
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Um, and that's fine. We will we will take a look at all comers
47:54
So is is the bequest going to
47:59
Exist as as a book
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Yeah, early on and then
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Yes, it is. I know first transform. I don't know. I was going to do a butterfly
48:10
Metaphor, but you said it started out as a screenplay and became a book
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Does it it doesn't need to go back to being a screenplay as well? How does it work? It absolutely does I um
48:20
The film is what I want to make the film is a way of connecting with a whole lot more people
48:25
many people read books, but many many more
48:28
watch movies and
48:31
um
48:32
That's what I want to do. That's what I love doing if you have any contact with taylor sheridan tell him
48:37
I want to speak to him. I don't know whether you you followed much of his work, but he's he's got the secret source and
48:44
Yeah, he does he loves making westerns. So
48:48
Taylor get this book read it and then get in touch with me
48:51
So let's talk about that as a theme
48:55
How how was it writing
48:57
about an era
48:59
That you really have only can only experience in history books and things like that
49:04
How did you how were you able to get the feeling?
49:07
Did you go to oregon and sort of
49:10
It's not that it's what it was, you know
49:13
170 years ago, but but but did you did you go to sort of get the vibe of what that pacific northwest?
49:20
Feeling is like well, yeah, it's on the oregon trail, but it actually takes place in wyoming
49:27
Oh, okay. Sorry. So um, yeah, I've been
49:30
North bit seen it. I'm not as specifically as part of this project but before so I have a
49:36
A clear image of what it looks like. I the one I love the research
49:40
That being of being an academic. I love the research. So going back into
49:45
for example, the relationship between the white man and the arapaho and the shoshone
49:50
indians and
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the
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extraordinary relationship that this mother and her child developed with the
49:58
Arapaho and
50:00
It brings in all the mysticism and the the stories of the arapaho gods and their beliefs
50:08
Oh cool to the to the
50:10
Mother and her son and norwegian their emigres from norway they've moved
50:15
They they were in a fishing village where the young men were
50:19
Killed almost to a man by
50:22
by a storm
50:24
And so they're forced to emigrate and it brings in all of the
50:29
the Nordic
50:31
mythology as well. So you have these cultures of christianity
50:35
native american
50:37
beliefs and and Nordic
50:40
sort of historical
50:42
culture and
50:43
A lot of fun and then of course the relationship
50:47
between
50:48
The fragile relationship between the native american indians
50:52
And the white man at that time because of things like the violation of
50:57
the agreement about
50:59
This land is ours and that land is yours
51:03
and the sand creek massacre, which was
51:07
A really a
51:08
An awful event that was characterized in a film that came out many years ago soldier blue
51:17
Anyway, so looking into the history of this I was fascinating absolutely fascinating and
51:22
placing it in a
51:24
A historical narrative that was
51:28
True to what actually happened is
51:31
Was fun as well
51:33
how does
51:34
Has has the influence the inspiration for the book has she has she had a chance to read it yet?
51:41
I don't know
51:43
Oh, no, no, I think the answer is no because it only comes out
51:47
On the 26th so we're a few days short, but no no one
51:52
No other I think my editor's read it and a few others and that's it
51:58
What are you what's next
51:59
Is nothing to do with vaccines tall or autism is pure self-indulgence and that a tv a tv series that
52:08
I've written with my wife about enri to lose the track the
52:13
post impressionist artist
52:15
um
52:17
He a wonderful man fascinating life
52:19
History will be a tragic and short
52:22
and uh, just a
52:23
An extraordinary character an extraordinary time in
52:28
French indeed european history and um
52:31
Something that I've been studying for 20 21 years. So, you know, what's that research like? Oh, that's it's wonderful
52:39
I would just come back from a
52:41
a month in europe
52:43
You know
52:45
Condensing the story into its final form
52:49
visiting where he was born where he died and where he lived and
52:54
Going to the galleries and and
52:57
setting up the
52:58
The places that we might shoot and talking to the individuals concerned who
53:03
control that
53:05
You know those those locations so absolutely marvelous time and now trying to
53:11
pitch that story as a television series to
53:16
Uh to companies to to get it made
53:20
But that that's just something that was my
53:22
You know a passion another passion project one that I
53:26
would love to make
53:28
but
53:30
Do you do you get some liberties?
53:33
With the fictional the genre of fiction
53:36
Allow you to uh
53:39
Yes
53:40
Talk about things that
53:43
That you want to talk about and couch it under well, we're just talking about a fictional person
53:47
But if this were real
53:49
It might look like something else is that is this the the flexibility that it gives you to explore some of these topics that are hot?
53:56
Absolutely, I've been for example with uh the bequest what you have is a
54:02
constellation of
54:05
Experiences with autism that have taken place over the years now
54:09
Put into one story
54:11
so it allows you to take
54:13
a sort of diverse set of
54:15
circumstances and
54:17
Events and put them into one story that convey to the audience. This is autism. This is what it looks like
54:24
This is how it was perceived
54:28
And and you add in the sort of
54:32
The love story whatever it is on top of that and
54:36
There are multiple layers to it. It that's that's such fun and and
54:40
The fictional side of it gives you that option. So uh
54:43
With the letreque story the the same thing, you know, you bring in a fictional element to it
54:50
That gives it an added flavor that gives it something more
54:54
than just a tragic story of a great artist
54:58
Who the world didn't appreciate rather like vango, you know
55:03
It's it's if you look at simply a a narrative
55:07
Based on his actual life
55:10
It's a terribly sad story
55:12
It's not terribly uplifting at all
55:15
um and but adding in that a fictional element to it
55:19
can often
55:21
Be much more satisfying to the the person watching
55:27
So what's the
55:29
What's the difference in distribution for your films?
55:33
You use the same groups to to get it out because when you're talking about
55:38
The controversial documentary series that you've been a part of
55:42
That's that's one thing
55:44
um
55:44
And maybe some doors were closed there, but now that you're working in
55:49
On topics that don't have any relationship to that
55:54
Are those doors opening again or did do you not care about that distribution network?
56:00
Or how do you how do you go about making sure that most people see your film?
56:04
Well, I've not I've certainly not stopped making films about vaccines and autism. There's enough there to
56:10
Keep me busy the day I drop the
56:13
um
56:15
The cowboy story the western that uh doesn't have that
56:21
We will see how that's handled. We'll see how the books handled
56:23
We'll see if they try and block us as they have done with the films how they try and censor us if they
56:30
You know hack us as they we were hacked the other day with protocol seven
56:34
um
56:35
So will that continue? I no doubt, but will it continue in the setting of
56:40
Of a fictional story less lightly
56:44
But um, they haven't given up. No, there's a great deal at stake for them. And so
56:49
The more they can silence me and people like me
56:52
The better it is for them
56:54
It backfires on it and and waxed it backfired in the biggest way we got in try to try becker as you know
57:01
great film festival run by robert deniro
57:04
and
57:06
We were pulled we were pulled because
57:09
people complained
57:11
that you know
57:13
Well, this is what they complained about
57:15
but people with commercial interests vested interests
57:20
Made sure that film didn't play until
57:22
Robert deniro went on the television
57:25
And said that film should have played
57:28
We should have everybody deserves a chance to see it and make up their own mind. We made a big mistake
57:33
and it went
57:34
global the film went global so there's an instance where
57:38
Censorship backfired them on them in the biggest way since then
57:42
What they've tended to do is work behind the scenes and just
57:46
Block the film being distributed
57:49
for protocol seven
57:50
And we took on a company
57:54
To help promote the film. They were going to set up all of these interviews and oh, yeah, we're good at this
58:00
We can know you couldn't know you couldn't get beyond that
58:02
They were in the end. They were able to contribute virtually nothing
58:08
to the distribution of the film which came down to us
58:12
So yeah censorship is alive and
58:16
An unhealthy in america
58:19
Yeah, we've we've recognized that as well. Let's wrap up with this
58:23
The numbers that you gave the statistics
58:26
were pretty pretty awful of where vaccine or where autism rates are
58:32
But we there's never been more people talking about it
58:36
And things have changed with the covid vaccines and it feels a little different
58:42
overall
58:44
How's your optimism
58:46
On where we're going
58:48
Are you optimistic about the direction that we're going?
58:52
I know that there's plenty of things that need to be taken care of but uh any bright spots here charlie. I am a pathological optimist
59:01
Good, and so yes things are changing sometimes they changed
59:06
At a pace that is far slower than we would wish but they are changing and they will continue to change there is a
59:13
Lore of mass action that we once you achieve a certain
59:18
Momentum it's unstoppable and that has now been achieved
59:23
People are talking about it as you say we're having this conversation now
59:29
Congress is hearing these arguments
59:33
Things are going to happen bobby kennedys in the white house. Who could have imagined that?
59:37
Yeah, just a year and a half two years ago. So
59:40
yeah dramatic change
59:42
And yes, they'll be pushed back
59:45
But in the end the market prevails. That's the important thing
59:50
The parents the people who buy the vaccine or
59:53
Invest in the vaccine or accept the vaccine on behalf of their children. They are the market and if they say no
1:00:00
If they say we know along the trust you so no, this is not for my child
1:00:04
Then they're going to lose they are going to lose because the market always wins
1:00:12
Your films have changed the world and I appreciate you
1:00:19
For having the guts to do that you took on personal cost to this obviously on every level
1:00:25
Thanks for what you do. Andy. You're the best. Look forward to seeing you again. Yeah, that's Andy Wakefield. Everybody go to
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