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Djinn in the Middle East - Military Encounters with Shapeshifters · The Cryptid Huntress

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Welcome in everybody. Hey, I'm Jessica Jones, the Crypti Huntress. Welcome
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Ja Okay, okay, all right, Well, well let's get to our
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show today, okay, because we don't want to waste any time. In
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Western society, we hear when we hear of the gin, the thought of
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a genie in a bottle often comes to mind in the Middle East. The
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origin of these shape shifting nips and sadders sets or sadders. I don't even
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know how to pronounce that, okay. It seems to be in the deserts
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of Arabia and are historically feared by those who encounter them. Jenner is said
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to be similar to spirits. They're capable of possessing people, shape shifting into
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different forms, both human and animal, and significantly significantly are known for their
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ability to turn invisible. There are several various types of gens, one being
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such as the ghule. So you guys might have heard of the ghules,
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and that's where we get our term the ghoul from a vile looking humanoid known
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as a goblin, demon and devil. It says shape shifter that can take
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on the form of men, cats, horses, it says asses, So
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I guess donkeys, camels, bulls awls in that of a multicolored dog.
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They can take on a human appearance in order to lure its victims away from
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their path and into its trap. Female goulas are said to lore travelers away,
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seduce them, and even have relations if you know what I mean.
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With these men. So there are a lot of stories of US soldiers going
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into the Middle East on tour and encountering the Gin other supernatural experiences over there,
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and we're going to explore those today along with a healthy dose of what
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the Gin are. And for that I have my friend Dennis Carroll here in
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the studio. Doctor Dennis Carroll has over forty years of experience in the field
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of the paranormal. He studied, research, and investigated many aspects pertaining to
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the paranormal and the supernatural, with many personal paranormal experiences. He's a researcher
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and investigator of the occult and the supernatural, a well known authority on folklore,
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legends, superstitions, cryptozoology and the occult. And you guys can find
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him on his YouTube channel that's Hunting the Shadows. Please let me welcome two
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of the Glitchen the Matrix today, mister Dennis Carrol. Hey, afternoon,
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all right, good to be thank you, thank you for being here.
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I know you have a lot of You've done a lot of research on the
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Gin and I'm pretty sure you might have you a Genie bottel in that office
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somewhere. Yeah, got one handy just in case we run into some problems.
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We could put it, we can put our gen in it. Maybe
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the interesting thing about the gin is, you know, and I've been deep
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in demonology for a long long time, they really go hand in hand because
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this is the type of demon that you're talking about in that respect. But
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according to the legend, the gin are made out of or created out of
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smokeless fire, and that is an, I think, an adequate description of
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spiritual energy, because that's basically what you're dealing with, is the spirits.
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These are spiritual beings in that respect. Wow. Well, when I when
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I think of a gin, well, you you and I both had gin
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jokes before we even started the show today. Uh you said, you're gonna
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You're gonna drink some gin. I said, well, this reminded me of
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my sister Jin Nafer. Okay, yeah, we had the funny jokes beforehand,
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so that's that's great. But when I think of the gin, I
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do think of a genie, and I think of the movie Aladdin. I
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think of the movie shows Am and Kazam, even though one of them is
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a man double expects. And also I dream of genie. You know.
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There it's in pop culture, and the genie seem to be more nice than
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mean and more demonic. You know, so I had not heard of it
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or thought of them as being there. It goes, it goes deep Jessica,
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deep into Arabian folklore and the Middle Eastern folklore. Uh. Definitely,
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the gin are guard considered guardians in certain aspects of you would put. They
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are also trapped, like in the Dibi boxes. They are put in containers
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that can be a bottle, that can be a box. It can be
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an ass or or like this a lamp. Uh. It can be any
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type of a thing as you can put them in. Uh. They are
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also put over treasures to guard treasures and supposedly households. If you are in
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good with the gin, then you will have one in your house that's ordered
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to take scare of stuff and guards your house and watches over your family.
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But they don't like you know, in the Middle East, they don't really
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like to talk too much about the household gin because they're kind of personal.
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You know, you want to be quiet about them and not say much about
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them because you want to stay on their good side. They're in your house
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kind of thing in your life. But then you have the other Gin that
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you encounter in certain other places, and according to Arabian folklore, the gin
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haunts desolate desert places, caves, places like that, roads crossroads, a
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verbial crossroads type thing. They are actual spiritual beings. But here's the interesting
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thing, Jessica about the gin and what makes them so fascinating to me.
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They can appear as anything. They usually take the shape of snakes, but
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they can do They can do any animal. They can be a dog,
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they can be a donkey, anything like that. Or they can also appear
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as people. And here's the interesting thing with the gin actually takes on human
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shape, they will be a part of that. It is still animal.
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They could be live, there might be maybe they look hewing and how sort
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of a snake skin about them or something like that. That's the way the
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gin operates. So they are premier shape shifters. Spiritual beings like this are.
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That's their superpower. You might say. They can shape shift very well.
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And that's what made That's what keeps you off card. You don't know
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what you're really needing. Is that really a snake or donkey or is that
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a gin? Yeah, that's an interesting thing. Well, do you know
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what that reminds me of a skin? Walker. You know, skin walkers
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are something that and I probably shouldn't be seeing that name too much because you're
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not supposed to see it, otherwise you'll get their attention. Well, you
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know, because I said earlier, there's that big connection for the gin with
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the fairies and also with the Native American tricksters. The Kayauti was one,
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you know, and the raven, the raven mocker and all these other things.
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You've got some correlation going on here. You know. That's the interesting
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thing about folklore all over the world, and I've studied for many, many,
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many years, is how these things have so similar lollities to them,
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and the Gin is definitely in that category. Wow. Yeah, So okay,
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I have several types that we can go over, just to start to
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show off today. There are several types. I fear I kind of go
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over them because you did mention the ghoul, okay, and the ghoul is
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the most common type, but a lot of times you get, like you
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said, has it can have tusk, it can have fans. It's a
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man eater, like you said, it's in the deserts and wastelands, and
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it sits in it lays in weight, and it waits to ambush people in
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the shadows, and it hangs out in the rocks in caves you said as
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well. But it gives them a false sense of security, kind of almost
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like you know, I talked about mermaids the other day. Those are sirens
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that will lure you out and then attack you when you least expect it.
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And these things are actually capable of even having relations, if you know what
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I mean with the opposite sex. You know, they pretend to women,
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and it's almost to me, it sounds like a succubist type spirit, but
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in human form. So it's very much like the ancubus and the succubists,
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you know. That's why that's the thing. They really got me on a
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gym when I first went into studying demonology and the similarities there and the different
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aspects of it. The GM can appear as a man or a woman and
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seduce the opposite sex, whatever the case may be, and lure them into
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places where they will actually kill them and eat them. That's the Google.
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That's the bad guys in the gen world. The Google. That's where we
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get our word google from. Actually that's where that comes from, and it
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actually means to them it means a man eating type of a demon, a
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monster's thing. The other kind of GEN is more ambiguous. It can be
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good or bad depending on how you relate to it. If you do good
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with it, it will usually recipitate that. But if you're bad or do
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something bad to it, you're in bad trouble then, because they will they
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will take it out on you. And and here's the interesting things just govery
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of reports of gen actually haunting houses and people's lives and destroying families, almost
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very much like demons you in European cultures. They will come in, They're
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almost like poltrydist They will come in, move things, throw things around,
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scratch people, turn things over. They can really make your own life very
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badly, very quickly if you get on the wrong side of these guys.
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Well. So, the Gen are not just located in the Middle East,
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and the genre of worldwide universe wise, it sounds like in parallel universe is
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probably okay all over the place. But the stories of the gen seem to
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be really focused in the Middle East, like in Afghanistan and Iran, in
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Iraq, but they can pretty much be anywhere. Now do you think the
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Gin are like the stories that we hear about the ghouls and everything. It's
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the same spirit. It's just a name that it's a different name that we
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give it here. But it's sustaining. I think it's very prevailed in the
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Middle East for the very reason that Islam has embraced it. Islam talks a
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lot about it in the Quran. You hear about the gin and what they
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do and all that, and uh, there are Here's here's the strange part.
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There are two kinds of gin. There is the believing gin that believes
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in Alah and the gin that doesn't is an unbelievers, an atheist type gen.
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They're very they're the ones that are basically called gules. They're just evil,
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their down right mean and despicable things. Uh. But then you have
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gen that believes they're sort of religious gen. Uh. That's an interesting aspect.
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So it almost is very mirror of actually the people who worship in that
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religion. It's sort of a mirror image for them. And in that respect,
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but you are talking about spiritual things. And by the way, the
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way to keep the gin away from you, especially the bad gen, is
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to have some kind of amulant or something on you with the name of God
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on it, if it's got like an Allah on it or whatever that's supposed
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to, we'll keep the gin away from you. And that is a big
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thing that they wear in the Middle East. In a lot of places,
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those ambulants. They feel like they're not dressed unless they go out with that
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amulant. It protect them from these things. Here's one more thing about the
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gen interesting. They are not angels or a fallen angels as we look upon
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them. These they are were created by Allah in a different category all together
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than angels. Okay, angels are more powerful than gen. But you're talking
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about two different types of spiritual entities there, and then you have a third
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type, which is a human spirit human ghost kind of thing. They can
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be malevolate too very much ei the gin. They can be benevolet or malevel
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it, depending on how you deal with them. But what I find interesting
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is that description of them made from smokeless fire. That sounds very much to
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me like spiritual energy. And these beings are basically spirit until they take form,
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and that can said likely they could be like a snake of coobra,
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a donkey, a dog, or a person or child, whatever the situation.
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Calls. They can do that, and that's what those you off guard
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with a gin. You never know what you're dealing with, you don't.
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That can be that can be pretty terrifying. Now, So I would I
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would assume that the women gin, the ones that look like women. I
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think they call them the selaw or the sala. Uh. They they have
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to be pretty beautiful, I would think, you know, if they can
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take on any form of a woman, a human. If I was one,
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i'd want to be a pretty one, especially go out to seduce those
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those men they're gonna go eat. Okay, yeah, so that's just me,
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I would think so. So yeah. And and with the women ones,
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the ones that are female, okay, like this big lady here,
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they they torture their prey too. I mean, I guess they all kind
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of torture them and stuff. But they're very sadistic, which is scary,
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that's all. Like the cat, the cat with a mouse, before it
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kills the mouse, it plays with it. And that's the way they are.
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That's their sadistic evil side. Uh. You know, it's bad enough
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just to kill you, but then the torture you while you're doing it.
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You know it's bad enough too on top of that. But the interesting thing
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about this is I think it is sort of like we say about the fairies.
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They have a glamour, they have a magic, they have a magic
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that can make themselves appear desirable. And what I think is that they're basically
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doing and I've noted this with other spiritual entities being able to take that image
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from you, that image that you either desire or fear, and use that
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image against you. That's insidious in that respect. It is so they can
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actually take your thoughts figure out what you're most scared of. I mean that
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that sounds pretty terrifying. It sounds like it's something a story that you tell
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your your kids at night to scare them before they go to bed. You
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know. That's trust for me. And that's like, you know, speaking
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of the Eastern, look at the Rashasha, which is a very big demon
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in India. It can take on the form It's very much like the gin.
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It can take on the form of someone you trust, like your mother
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or your child or whatever, and gain your trust, so it will eat
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you. That's bad. Think about it, h You can't really trust your
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own eyes, especially when you're dealing with spiritual things like the gin. Okay,
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well, that reminds me of a story of Little Red riding Hood and
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how she meant to go visit her grandmother, but it was a big bad
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wolf dressed in grandmothers and you have mother. Yeah, well, we often
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thought about a little Red rid now there, Jessica. I mean, I
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don't have to have a talk with that girl because she should have known better
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that that was not her grandmother. But anyway, Uh, you have to
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wonder about this shape shifting thing. That's what throws people off. And you
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know, I think that was an ancient fear of mankind. You know,
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not you don't know what you're dealing with. It might look like a donkey,
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but is it a donkey? Look at the aspects of the ferry and
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the fade that we've talked about before, and they can take on the form
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of horses and stuff like that. You just don't know what you're dealing with
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until it's too late. Usually that's the problem. It's too late when you
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find out what it is that you're really facing. That had to be very
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fearful for people, you know, like if you were going on a trip
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to grandmother's house, be careful what you meet along the way. It may
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not be what it really appears to be, you know. That's right,
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that's right. Well, when I was doing my research on these things,
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and speaking of the big bad wolf, there are some gen that look a
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lot like we would consider it to be dog man and wear wolves. Uh
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So, and there's even paintings of these things. Uh, let's see if
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I have one here to show. Uh there are depictions of of gen being
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what looked like dog men and wear wolves out there. Uh. And there's
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a certain type of gin it's called the chic I think is how you pronounce
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that? And it assumes a half human form, half animal half human.
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But here's the thing, here's the here's the kicker. I said, longitudinally
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longitudinally. I can't pronounce that longitudinitudinally. Spin it out so split and half
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sod be like half like it'd be this way right, like half the face
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is like a dog and half is a human. I mean that's weird.
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Okay, That's that's the thing about the folklore, like in the Irish folklore
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and all that you have that that human animal hybrida thing going on here,
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you know. And I was reading together mind. I was deep into research
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on this, so by the Nethlm and we'll have to do a show all
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that one day. Definitely the Nephilim supposedly the fallen angels that came down and
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bread with human women. Okay, they also supposedly not only bread with human
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women, but bread with animals, and supposedly that's where you get your cryptids
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from. WHOA think about it, that's it's that's interesting. That's interesting.
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So, uh, you're talking about human hybrid because that's that's another thing about
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really destroying or disrupting nature. You're going against the laws of nature. And
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uh when you do that, nothing ever good comes out of it. Uh.
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Well, I wouldn't be the crypti hunters if there weren't any cryptids out
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there, though, So it's it's fun. It's fun for me, of
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course, because I love I loved cryptids. But we wonder, you know.
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I get asked all the time, where where are they from? Where
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are sasquats from? Are they original to this planet? Are they some kind
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of extraterrestrial? Do they come from Inner Earth? Like? What are these
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things? And I don't know all the answers. I don't know any of
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the answers. Actually, So that's one thing that's always piqued my interests.
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Okay, I call it things of unknown origin. I want to know what
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the origin is. I'd like to know where they really started from, Where
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are they coming from, how they get here? To me, that's the
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fascinating part of it too. But that's the thing about the Gin. Supposedly
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the Gin were created by the creator. Like I said, they were like
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a class lower than the angels. That's why they're subject to Allah in that
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respect. In the Islam religion, which talks about them a lot, it
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warns people about them, but you're usually okay with them as long as you're
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a believer. But if you don't believe, then you may have a bad
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problem. You usually attract the bad gen in that respect. But now the
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gooles to me a fascinating part of the gen. Like you said, you
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know, they can shape shift and entice people and do stuff. But they
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also are supposedly directly connected to Lilith, remember her Lilith. Yeah, they're
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supposed to be the children of Lilith. In that respect, she is the
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mother of demons, and we're talking about the ghouls now. In that respect,
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she is their mother, and she is often described mentioned in the Bible
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too, by the way, as a screech owl, and the owl is
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known doing to have that desolate desert places and stuff like that. So you've
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got a lot of folklore tie in with the stuff that is fascinating. Wow.
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That is fascinating. Wow. Okay, Well, there's I found another
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type of of gin that I found really interesting too, called the dell half
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or the delim and, and it's a mount It takes the form of a
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mount, a man mounted on an ostrich. This is like a because they
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have aquatic gin too, apparently, Dennis, I didn't know that they you
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can, I want to say, it sound like a mermaid kind of.
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But it devours the flesh of shipwrecked men and sailors out at sea. Okay,
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so there's sea gin as well as land gin apparently. Oh yeah,
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and you know there's the other one that that actually possesses people like a demon,
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you know, demon doontic possession, so the GM can take over a
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body. And that was too. That's fascinating too. Uh. You've got
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a lot of different gin as you're dealing with here. Uh, there's not
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just one category on them. Uh, And as I mentioned earlier when we
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were talking, Uh, it's got it's kind of bled over into our into
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our modern day things like with ras Agu, which the premiere villain of Batman
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rad that name I actually means chief demon, chief head of the demons.
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Ra actually comes from the Middle East, if you if you're familiar with Batman,
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he is one of the worst villains that Batman has ever run into.
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So I think that was a perfect title for him. Definitely. Oh my
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gosh. There's a lot of Marvel characters in comic book characters and superheroes that
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are based off of these demonic historically demonic figures and things that people have feared
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that's been passed down in oral tradition and history and literature and stuff. And
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so I tell you, venom comes to mind when I was thinking about the
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gen Venom. I know, he kind of is almost like a black goo
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that takes over. But to me, I thought of venom for some reason
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because it kind of takes over the body of the man that it's possessing,
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and you know, just takes over his body. It's like a snatcher basically.
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It is a form of a possession. Yeah, definitely, Uh,
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you know, and you're speaking of the Marvel characters, d C comics and
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all of them. You've got doctors Strange, You've got John Constantine. You've
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got a lot of guys that are what you would basically call shaman. Really
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that's what they are in that respect. Uh. There's the heroes of some
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of them, they're not the villains, but you do have villains that way
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too. So all of this has fled over into modern day times. But
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this all has a basis in folklore. Love that it does. Donna has
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a good question, Dennis, So if a person goes to sleep with their
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mouth open, can a jim take over their body? Either that or you
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can end up with flies in your mouth the other Uh, definitely, you
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wouldn't want to do that. I would thing, and especially in some parts
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of the world, it was not be a good idea. But and by
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the way, you know, the flies flies are considered a smaller, lesser
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form of demons and gin too, by the way, because in the Middle
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East you have a bad problem with flies, biting flies they get on camels
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and people and everything else, and you have some bad things over there.
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I know, we've had a lot of our soldiers talk about the camels spiders.
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They're a huge, big spiders that get in their tents and all that.
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So you've got all this stuff to contend with when you go over there.
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And and uncle was stationed over there many years ago and almost lost his
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life. You've got some bad things to contend with on tour over that.
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And then on top of that, you've got the gin you do, you
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know, speaking of flies, flies are associated with the demonic. And I
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have a quick story I can tell when I lived in a super haunted house
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in downtown Atlanta many years ago. Okay, I came home at night.
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Uh you know, it was back when I was wild and free, Okay,
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and I was out late with some of my friends, and it was
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in the kind of like the bar district of downtown, right off Ponsta Lyon
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Avenue. Uh. And so I came home and I was having some very
28:25
very intense paranormal activity happening in that apartment. It was built in an old
28:29
home, and I lived in a basement apartment of this house, and everything
28:33
from shadow figures and black balls, like a mass of black like a black
28:40
cloud basically flew out of my bedroom one day and it shoved me down into
28:45
my I mean it literally pushed my body down into my cabinets where I was
28:48
getting some camp food, okay, and it flew past me into a closet
28:53
into my in my living room. Lots of odd stuff happened, okay.
28:59
And and I came home on two different occasions, and I had my at
29:03
least one friend with me. My friend Whitney usually was with me, but
29:07
she she and I both experienced this. We came, I came home,
29:11
and I heard a buzzing sound as I went to the outside door to my
29:15
out my apartment down in that basement, and when you had a window in
29:19
the door, and there was a long hallway that went down to my apartment
29:22
door on the inside, and on that hallway, on the ceiling, there
29:27
was a blanket of flies and in tire the entire roof, the entire ceiling
29:33
was covered. There was not one INSTI that didn't have flies. There were
29:38
the black flies too, and uh and so. But you could hear the
29:41
buzz from outside, and so I opened up the door and the flies didn't
29:45
move. They just stayed there in like a blanket. That's the only way
29:48
I can describe it. And uh, and she and I just kind of
29:52
duck down and we took off running to my apartment, went inside, and
29:56
we could hear it, hear the buzzing from inside the apartment, but we
30:00
just we were kind of scared. We just sit in there all night,
30:02
you know. We couldn't really do anything about it. Really, I didn't
30:04
know what to do, so I left it. And the next morning they
30:07
were gone. All of them were gone. There were a couple of dead
30:11
flies on the floor, but they were gone. So I think that was
30:14
a that was some kind of demonic is Definitely, that is a demonic sign.
30:18
Definitely, Jessica. I've had that happen a lot of times. And
30:22
you know, I warned a lot of the investigators. I don't care if
30:26
it's your cryptid investigating or spiritual and whatever the investigation is. You whatever,
30:30
you're dealing with, anything above the normal, the paranormal, the supernatural.
30:36
Protect yourself going in and coming out of these situations, okay, because you
30:41
can get attachments. These things won't follow you back and do this kind of
30:45
stuff to you. You were very lucky that it went away, or that
30:48
you did what was appropriate to get rid of it, or the mindset that
30:53
you had. Whatever the situation, you were lucky. I've had many cases,
30:59
many men, many cases with investigators come to me with this problem,
31:03
and you need to protect yourself in and out of the situation spiritually. You
31:07
got to put that protection on yourself. You'll be sorry if you don't,
31:14
if you're not careful. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Uh, that was
31:18
a scary. That was a scary time in my life with all of the
31:21
paranormal stuff that was going on. I mean I even watched an object levityat
31:25
right in front of my face, like right right in front of me.
31:27
I had a glass vase that was on my bedside table, Levity, and
31:32
I watched it. I watched it kind of move off of the table and
31:36
then just sit straight and it's set in the air. And then when I
31:40
said, when I screamed it fell on the ground, that it didn't break.
31:44
It would kind of freak you out too. You know, these things
31:45
that you work on you psychologically too, you know, I said, they
31:51
can attack you physically, mentally, emotionally, and they can do that spiritually
31:57
as well. But they just kind of freaky out a lot of times to
32:00
create that negativity. And luckily you didn't fall for that, But they want
32:05
to create that negativity, get you scared, get you worried, and feed
32:09
off of that. And the Gin are no different in that respect. The
32:14
Gin look for that emotional output, and that's why they in the Middle East.
32:19
They don't like to talk that much about the Gin. So, like
32:22
we talked, you know the Native Americans are with a skinwalker or like demonologists,
32:28
we don't like to talk about the names of demons. You don't want
32:31
to get the unwanted attention of these things, like we'll have it with you.
32:37
You don't want to get that attention. That's right. I was.
32:40
I was a like a lighthouse over there for that. It was just odd
32:45
I have I've never had that problem since, and I hope to never have
32:50
that ever again. But it was It was actually kind of cool that I
32:52
got to experience that because I saw how scary it can be, so I
32:57
can talk about it today. That's all. The apartment where I had the
33:00
black eyed person show up at my door one night. His eyes were completely
33:07
black, completely there were no whites in his eyes at all, and so
33:12
yeah, so I did not open the door. Yeah, we didn't know
33:15
the word and that's very similar to some of these stories that I've heard of
33:19
some of our US soldiers over in the Middle East when they go over there
33:22
and have a lot of paranormal activity that goes on over there, and and
33:29
some of it could be generlated, and then some of it's just paranormal because
33:34
there's a whole lot of you know, in the war zone, there's a
33:37
lot of death and destruction. Well, you got that's an interesting aspect,
33:42
yessicause you know, when you're in a war zone, you've got a lot
33:44
of trauma going on. You've got death and suffering. You've got that.
33:47
Not just in the Middle East. You've got it in Asia too, big
33:51
time. You've got a lot of this trauma that's been there. You've got
33:54
old battlefields, You've got people who are directly, just like the people in
33:58
the Middle East and in Asia are directly connected to their ancestors in minnie a
34:02
space. They're very conscious of the sphere of invisible spiritual world around them.
34:08
And I think that opens doorways too, you know, yeah, for sure.
34:15
I mean we talk about the battlefields here in the South, you know,
34:20
Kennesaw Battlefield, Picket's Mill, Chickamauga, where the Civil War was fought,
34:25
and there are areas of super high strange just with a lot of cryptid
34:30
reports, a lot of cryptid sightings, a lot of ghosts. I've even
34:34
heard phantom cannons going off out there before personally where the ground shook and everything.
34:40
So a lot of things manifesting in war zones and places where blood was
34:46
shed. Oh yeah, yeah, definitely, And that is I like that
34:53
comment there listening to shows enough to get yourself an attachment, it depends.
34:59
It depends a lot on your mindset. You can Here's the way I've here's
35:04
the way I've owned myself personally taken it over the years. Okay, I've
35:07
had a lot of people ask me, you studied all this about their cult
35:10
and all these things. Were you ever tempted to try it out? Were
35:14
you ever tempted to do you know? Do you know best with some of
35:17
this stuff? I said, no, not really. I take it from
35:21
a scholarly point of view, I have it. I've detached myself from that.
35:27
Emotionally, you might say, in that respect, that's a good mindset
35:30
to have when dealing with these subjects. You can become obsessed. Though.
35:36
I've had a lot of people come to me and say, oh, tell
35:37
me about demons, demons, demons, I want all about demons. They're
35:42
obsessed with that, and I tell them, don't do that. That is
35:45
not a good mindset. You need to take it from a scholarly detached point
35:52
of view on these things, because these things are going to attach to you,
35:54
you emotionally, and if you're obsessed and emotionally invested in it too much,
36:01
they pay attention to that, and you don't want to go that route.
36:06
That's right, uh wink and me has an interesting comment too. Some
36:08
of these soldiers brought Jen back with them. They can't attach to you.
36:15
Yeah, oh yeah, that's attachments definitely. Yeah, so the old monkey
36:19
on your back kind of thing, you end up with the attachment you don't
36:22
want. It depends too a lot. And I'm gonna say this, if
36:27
they get involved with some of the wrong people over there, like maybe some
36:30
of the women or some of the men, whichever the case may be.
36:34
If they get involved with some of the wrong people, those people may have
36:37
attachments and that attachment can attach to you. So you have to be very
36:42
careful who you're dealing with. Yeah, Like I say, there's usually a
36:47
reason for an attachment, you know, just like you kind of you had
36:52
that that have happened because you went to that certain area. You can you
36:55
can't just be walking down the street and bound you get something out of You've
37:00
got to usually be in the wrong place at the wrong time. That's what
37:04
happens, and I think that has happened with a lot of our soldiers who
37:07
have come back from areas like that. Definitely. Yeah, in my case,
37:12
that house was haunted and and it was it had to do with an
37:15
attachment at that home, I do believe. Now, Paul, thank you
37:20
for your service, and I want to I want to thank all the men
37:22
and women in the chat and watching who have served our country and have done
37:27
tours overseas and and even just served here at home. Okay, but he
37:32
says that he lived in the Philippines for one year, Korea six years,
37:36
and Guan for three years. Saw ghosts in all three places. Wow.
37:44
Yeah, Like I said, that area over there, especially the Eastern and
37:47
Asian part, they're very very spiritually conscious all the things around them, and
37:54
I think this gives power to these things, gives more hour to them.
38:00
So definitely, you're going in a hot area without a doubt in a place
38:06
like that, Yeah, for sure, for sure. Well, I know
38:07
you had mentioned that you had a story about the cave systems and the gin
38:13
being over there, and I guess it was the Middle East, right,
38:15
And maybe we can get to these stories before we end the show today,
38:21
and I'll mention some of the stories from some of the soldiers that I had
38:25
had encountered. Well, there is one account of a military detachment, a
38:30
US military detachment, that was seeing into a cave. Now they reason they
38:35
were going into this cave system they were looking for terrorists. I think this
38:38
was in Iraq, if I'm not mistaken, and they were going into these
38:44
cave systems looking for terrorists. I don't think they found in terrorists. But
38:47
they said while they were there, they were attacked in this cave system by
38:52
well, they could only describe a shadow like beings. They say that these
38:59
things actually physically assaulted them while in this cave system. And it also they
39:06
had not vision goggles, and they said that you could see these things.
39:09
I think you did a show on that too, very similar to that about
39:14
the goggles, but these no vision goggles, they could see these things.
39:17
And then they could take the goggles down. They couldn't see them. They
39:21
could see these shadow figures. But they were actually physically attacked, and they
39:27
were also mentally attacked. In other words, they were said, they fog
39:32
our brains up so bad. We were walking the walls inside this cave.
39:38
Said, well, the finding the sergeant had to get us out. He
39:42
said, we pulled us out because they weren't any terrace there. There was
39:45
something bad. He said this. He said, in his own words,
39:49
there was some bad jusu in that cave, definitely, and said when we
39:52
got out that some of this stuff even followed them back to the base.
39:59
Things still have happened, Things went on. It was almost as if the
40:01
spiritual attack did not end with them leaving the cave system. But finally said,
40:07
after a few days it all went away, but said it was one
40:10
of the most freakiest things they'd ever run into. But they all experienced it,
40:15
not just a couple of them, two or three of them, but
40:17
they all experienced this spiritual attack in that cave. And he said that he
40:22
had mentioned that to one of the guys that was a native over there,
40:27
and he said, oh, that was the gin. The gin were protecting
40:30
that cave, and you were in their cave and they didn't want you there.
40:37
Oh my gosh, I can see that. You know. There's also
40:39
stories of the giants being in the caves over there in Afghanistan with a giant
40:45
of Canada car. So there's all sorts of strange things lurking around in those
40:49
caves. Yeah, that's an interesting thing, Jessica about the caves. Whenever
40:57
you go underground. I've been in some caves. It's a freaky place to
41:00
go. Okay, it's not one of my favorite places to be. But
41:02
when you go there, you're in another completely different world. And if I
41:07
were going to be some kind of subspecies and I wanted to get away from
41:09
mankind, that's the place I would go. That's where I would live,
41:13
and I would inhabit that place. That would be the perfect hiding place.
41:17
And whenever you enter their territory, just like you enter the territory of a
41:22
mountain line, if you're out in the woods in a mountain lion's territory,
41:27
it begins to stalk you, whether you know it or not, and eventually
41:31
at the end, when you get you close enough, you will find out
41:35
it's talking but that's the way it goes with the Gin and these other things,
41:38
and the giant stew supposedly end these games. When you go into their
41:43
territory, you're asking for trouble. Wow. Yeah, absolutely. Now,
41:49
a lot of a lot of the stories that I've come across with uh,
41:52
with soldiers that are in the Middle mostly the Middle East, who have encountered
41:58
paranormal activity. A lot of times it has to do with what we would
42:00
consider to be either either a ghoule or a ghost of some sort, or
42:06
just something that was kind of phantom, something they couldn't see but was messing
42:09
with them. And uh. But there was also an interesting note because on
42:13
a lot of the stories that I was looking into, they said that these
42:16
these places were where they had the most activity, were used as what they
42:21
considered to be death camps where people, you know, where bombings had taken
42:24
place, where bodies had been piled up and things like that. And it
42:30
was just like we mentioned with the almost like the battlegrounds and stuff, and
42:36
like where the Civil War places, you know, the battlefields were here in
42:39
the South that I've been to that are haunted kind of kind of like that
42:45
that that happens, Jessica very well. Now inside that demon's GM, whatever
42:50
name you want to give them, these evil spirits, they they tend to
42:53
gravitate towards places of trauma, intense mental pain, physical pain, and anguish.
43:00
I worked at a hospital for thirty years, and that was one of
43:02
the most holy places I've ever been in. I had some very interesting honed
43:07
experiences there. Those are places of trauma, and you can always look for
43:12
that to happen there. That's where spiritual entities are drawn to it like a
43:17
magnet. Oh yeah, for sure. Now, and even in the barracks
43:22
where these guys are sleeping, the ladies and gentlemen, guys and gals,
43:27
or sleeping, they often would wake up to have shadow figures sitting in their
43:30
room staring at them, solid black figures. Okay, now I've actually encountered
43:37
this before. Okay, I've seen them. I actually had a solid black
43:40
mask that floated through my apartment one day and actually touched my box, like
43:45
touched me and pushed me down. But they described that and also of seeing
43:51
people, Okay, it's almost like that Uncanny Valley. It's like people,
43:54
but they're not human or they don't have a soul to them or something,
44:00
and they look human, but they're not quite human. And so I'm assuming
44:05
like what a gen is. I call those I call those kind of entities
44:09
lost souls. Actually they look human, but they're really not. They have
44:14
that facade, but that's it. If you look in their eyes, there's
44:17
nothing there. Uh. They have no feeling about them of being actual human.
44:23
You know, when you actually deal with human beings, you get a
44:28
feeling from them. You know, some people are more sensitive than others to
44:31
it. You get a feeling off of them. But when you run into
44:35
these kind of energies, it's just dead. There's nothing there, you know.
44:39
And also these things seem to feed off of your energy. It's like
44:45
you know, they're they're they're drawing off of you, and you feel that
44:51
too. When you do, you know you're not dealing with something that's human.
44:53
Really. Oh yeah, we're humans are like batteries, okay. And
44:59
and the higher vibe you have, the higher vibrational frequency, uh, more
45:04
things are going to be attracted to you. And I think that's why a
45:07
lot of times, uh, some people have more paranormal activity that happens around
45:10
them because they are like a beacon of light and uh, and the things
45:15
out there whatever they are and ain't going to work the other way too,
45:20
Jessica. If you're walking around the press, you live in a bad lifestyle,
45:23
you're really negative, negative, negative, You're going to attract negative even
45:29
more than you normally would. Uh. That's just that's just a spiritual law
45:34
principle of the universe. You know. I've seen that happen many times.
45:38
And that's why I tell a lot of people when they have these attacks and
45:42
stuff, try to get in a positive frame of mind. Try to get
45:45
that that inner light going, try to get that up, that that's good
45:49
feeling up, because that's what combats this darkness, you know. And Uh,
45:54
I think a lot of our military personnel that found that out, they
45:58
found that out the hard way of especially being in the very anxious, very
46:04
nervous, and very negative situations that they get into over there. That's another
46:08
factor that they've got to worry about, is the spiritual side of it.
46:14
Oh yeah, now, Scott, Scott, you kind of answered Scott's question.
46:16
He said, how do you leave the bad energy at the hospital or
46:21
wherever you pick it up at because he believes his wife brings it home with
46:24
her. Well, that's another thing, you know, very much like I
46:29
said about the investigation, you need to she needs before going to work every
46:34
morning. Here's my advice to her. I would say a little prayer protection
46:38
going to work and coming home, you know, saying I want to leave
46:44
all this bad stuff behind me. I want to push it away, tell
46:47
it to leave me alone. Be aware of that, you know, and
46:53
do that. That will go a long ways to help you and day after
46:58
day keep this stuff from following you home and affecting you, you know.
47:02
And I've been, you know, being in law enforcement. I understand this
47:06
very much that you deal with a lot of negativity all day long, and
47:10
you've got to kind of take that off at the end of the day,
47:14
like a jacket, you know, and put it down, because if you
47:17
don't, it will begin to affect you in many different ways, not just
47:22
spiritually, but in physically, mentally, emotionally, it will begin to take
47:27
a told on you. And you've got to said, like I said about
47:30
the thing earlier, about that scholarly point of view, You've got to detach
47:34
yourself emotionally. Don't become emotionally invested in it too much because these things that
47:40
gets their attention and they say, hey, you know, we've got a
47:45
handle here, we can grab a hold of here, So you don't want
47:47
to give them that handle. Definitely, that's right. And Dennis, you
47:52
mentioned in the beginning of the show today that a lot of people overseas in
47:57
the Middle East, they wear their ambulance on a necklace, some like a
48:01
pendent or something of protection, a protection amulet, a protection stone, something
48:07
to protect you, uh, in the physical like that would be a good
48:10
thing to use as well. Oh yeah, that's like I said about the
48:14
gin. If you they're wearing that diamult with a with a god name of
48:17
God on it, that's supposed to protect you from the bad guys. You
48:22
know, in that respect, h that's a sign of faith on their part.
48:27
You know, religious faith I think creates a positive attitude in you,
48:31
and it makes like I said earlier, it gives that bumper around you.
48:36
You know. That's like in Italy. I know, there's a big thing
48:38
about the evil eye in Italy, you know, and you've got this,
48:44
you've got this thing that was always a thing to try to keep the evil
48:46
eye away from you. And they actually sayamulets that look like a hand that
48:51
does this, uh toward off the evil eye. So you have this in
48:57
different parts of the world. But I think it helps to create a positive
49:01
attitude in your mind. You know, it gives I say, it gives
49:06
you a kind of hope to hang it all kind of thing does. That's
49:09
that's my motto. High vibe tribe. Maybe high vibe tribe. Y'all get
49:14
on the high vibe tribe and uh and keep all the all the gin away
49:17
from you, right, okay? Well, uh So, a lot of
49:21
the stories that I was reading and uh, when I was looking into some
49:23
of these paranormal events that happened to some of the military overseas, Uh,
49:29
it had to deal with like rocks being thrown at the soldiers and things happening.
49:35
It almost sounded like what the bigfoots do to us out in the field
49:37
of their spirits, kind of things being thrown at them, women yelling.
49:43
They were always hearing a lot of screams and yells, kind of like what
49:45
we hear in the woods when we're doing our big footing as well. But
49:50
then they every account, the soldiers put their their night vision goggles on and
49:55
they looked and there was nothing there. There was nothing there, so I
50:00
found that was really interesting. And you mentioned the Dician and Die goggles.
50:06
Is uh, you're talking about the Dision and Die goggles. Now, I
50:08
did do a hope there's hey, Mike, Uh, I did. I
50:15
did a show on the Dicion and Die goggles. My goodness, Dennis,
50:17
I thing has gotten more views than any any show on my entire channel.
50:22
Okay, Uh, it was super. I don't know if it was clickbait
50:25
or if people are just really interested in Dision and Di goggles. Because that
50:30
that is those goggles from Vietnam that you had mentioned, where the soldiers were
50:34
putting those on and they could see into another another dimension. Okay and uh,
50:38
and so I guess that was probably a good thing that they did not
50:42
have the goggles there. In Along those same lines, Jessica, there's always
50:46
been a contention in Hoeblo and Scheff that certain crystals can help you see these
50:52
dimensions. Take for instance, the uh the witch stone that has a natural
50:58
hole in it. Supposedly if you to it at certain times, you can
51:00
see other dimensions as well. A lot of these things supposedly are being are
51:06
able to pierce that what I call that magical dimension that's around us, in
51:12
other words, that spiritual aspect of things. To me, that is very
51:17
interesting. I've experimented with crystals and that respect and seen some freaky stuff,
51:22
you know, And you hear about scrying and mirrors and all that. These
51:28
are just reflections of things that maybe around us that we can't see with the
51:32
human eye. You know, the human eye takes in very little stuff.
51:37
I mean, there's so much of the spectrum that we cannot see. So
51:40
I would say if something age you, it helps you see better is a
51:45
definite plus in my book. Oh yeah, as long as your mind's right.
51:51
You got to have your mind right. People aren't prepared to see into
51:54
other dimensions. I don't think some people aren't. But it's just add another
51:59
leader of just being terrified too when you're and I'm not saying soldiers are always
52:04
terrified, but I mean, if I was in a wartime type of a
52:07
situation, it would be scary, It really would be. And just like
52:13
you said about the rock throwing, you know, that's the perfect way to
52:15
get somebody's attention. You know, I've had bigfoot throw rocks at me.
52:20
Uh, that gets your attention, right, off the bad real quick.
52:22
And these things sometimes want your attention, okay, because there again they can
52:30
get your you know, your interest going, They get you fearful a little
52:32
bit and on whatever the situation is. Uh. And that's why they do
52:37
these things. It's theatrics just to get you in that position they want you
52:43
in. Don't fall for the trick, don't buy the life. Uh,
52:46
don't don't let them fool you, okay, because sometimes that's what they're up
52:51
to. Uh, they want to rattle you. Definitely, don't let them
52:54
jerk your shame. Well, going going back to the gin and the they
53:00
can make you have hallucinations and put thoughts into your head. From what I
53:05
understand, I think you mentioned that. And some of the soldiers that were
53:08
having accounts of paranormal stuff happening, they were having hallucinations that were associated with
53:17
some of these forms and figures that were coming like people, but they would
53:21
disappear right before their eyes. And when they would encounter some of these figures
53:27
people who they who they thought were actual humans, but would disappear before their
53:31
eyes, they would start smelling smells like baked bread and having thoughts of being
53:38
back home and being in some kind of comfortable, almost like lulling them to
53:44
sleep, kind of calming their nerves, and then having them follow what they
53:49
thought were humans into the desert, into the dark, kind of about what
53:54
happened, what happened in that cave, Jessica. They began to tide them
53:59
men. Okay, these things and take these images. And I've had this
54:02
happen to me. Okay, they can take images from your subconscious and use
54:07
them against you. They can make you see things that are there, and
54:12
they can make you experience things that aren't real. They can twist and bend
54:15
your reality. And that's what's so freaky, uh where some about this stuff.
54:21
Okay, if you don't know what you're dealing with, you've got to
54:23
be very very careful because what you're looking at may not be real or is
54:30
it? Yeah, you never know, I know, And it's getting harder
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to tell what's real and what's not these days, and so many different you
54:38
know, layers, seriously, with like the AI, we got spirits,
54:44
we got we got aliens coming out of portals in the mall. What you
54:49
got to freaking stuff? Well, what's real? What's real? And you
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know, I said this not long ago Jessica. I think there are certain
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forces in this world. They it won't to twist our reality and get us
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off guard. So they were walking muddy water. You know when you were
55:06
a kid and you walked out in the lake, you couldn't see where you
55:08
put your feet. The water would be so muddy, you know, you
55:12
didn't know where you were going. Uh. That's the way they want us,
55:15
Okay. They want to keep us confounded and confused, because then we're
55:19
what off guard and we're not on our guard, we're off guard. And
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so that's I think that's why they want to mess with our reality a lot.
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They want to keep us guessing. Yeah, yeah, well I'm still
55:32
guessing. I'm I'm confused. I'm more confusing i've ever been. But I'm
55:37
also I'm in it to win it. We're going to look into this stuff
55:39
no matter what. And uh and in some wild, crazy way, a
55:44
lot of this stuff is all is connected, uh in some way. And
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uh. And I thought it was important that you know, we're we're in
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such wild times right now, and it seems as though we may be in
55:54
a wartime situation right now, with the Middle sending soldiers to the Middle right
56:00
now, when you know, in my opinion, they need to be here,
56:04
you know, but there's going to be soldiers that encounter things like that
56:10
over there, and so I think it's uh, I think it's kind of
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cool to put this out there. It's bad to think about it too,
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Jessica. You've not only got to worry about your physical safety, you got
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to worry about your spiritual safety as well. Yep, Absolutely, spiritual safety,
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your in You don't get a by the way, you don't get a
56:30
purple heart for that. Definitely, only the physical things. And that's the
56:35
bad thing about it. We don't you know, our soldiers are put the
56:39
harms way, definitely, and it's a wonderful thing that they sacrifice to do
56:44
that for us, for our freedoms and everything. Without a doubt, my
56:47
hat's always tipped off of them. I come from a long line of veterans.
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But let me say this, it's bad enough when you got to worry
56:54
about the physical and the psychological parts of it, but also the spiritual thing
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is going on. So you better watch out of that too, because it's
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just as virulent and just as dangerous is not handled correctly. And you know,
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I think some of them they actually need some type of spiritual counseling when
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they come back from over there. You know. Oh yeah, absolutely,
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that's a great idea. Actually, I think that you know a lot of
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people. I know myself. I've been tapping into my spirituality and spiritual side,
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and of course I'm over here doing my remote viewing stuff. And that's
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let's just say, like remote viewing has been part of a military program and
57:39
it has to do. It has a huge spiritual side, a huge spiritual
57:43
aspect, and it's all about protecting your energetic field and things like that.
57:47
So it's spiritual welfare. Your spiritual welfare is a definite thing going on there.
57:54
Here one more thing I'll tell you right quick. It's very interesting.
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I always study about how how to get rid of these things. You know,
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how do you kill the gin? You can kill the gin, and
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the only way you can kill the gin is you have to kill them in
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their physical form. If they're like a snake or donkey or a personal whatever.
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If you kill them in their physical form, they will die. That's
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it. Yeah, that's the way you get rid of the gin. Wow,
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that's really good to do. That's great to know. So there's a
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there's a way to get rid of them if you have to just wait till
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they turn to a or or a dog or an ass yeah, whichever,
58:40
whatever the case may be, because we have a lot of those of Washington.
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But I won't get into that. But anyway, Uh, if you
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get you can take care of my way, or you can wear the amulet
58:52
with God's name on it. They will keep them all you back to.
58:55
But there are they always ways to deal supposedly with these things for your own
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safety. But like we said earlier, the main thing I think is your
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your outlook on it and putting that bumper, that spiritual bumper around you,
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you know, that's that would be the way to go. Desinitely, Yes,
59:14
we have a question, Dennis, do gens grant wishes? That's from
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King Wacomando Lamp. But you know supposedly in folklore with the gen that they
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can actually if you're on their good side, like I said earlier, if
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you're in good with the Gin, they will help you and do things for
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you. I don't know if there's a certain number of wishes you get off
59:39
of that a lot, but if you're on the bad side now you might
59:43
get you might not get your wishes fulfill but usually if you're in good with
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them. And that that actual story of the Laddin and the Laddin's Lamp and
59:54
all that is based deep in the folklore of Arabia. And and uh,
1:00:00
the the genie was actually a guardian over a great treasure. If you go
1:00:06
back and read about read about it. Uh, he was a guardian over
1:00:09
a great treasure. But once you he became your servant. And uh,
1:00:15
you know, you could have a genie, a gen serve you, sort
1:00:20
of like these guys they call up supposed demons and get them to work for
1:00:23
them. Uh, you could have this servant. He was supposed to grant
1:00:28
your wishes whatever they may be. Wow. Okay, we have another question
1:00:35
from David. Uh in the physical do they die in the physical form only
1:00:39
in or die in the spiritual form as well? Well? When you kill
1:00:45
them in the physical form, that's the end of them. They're supposed to
1:00:46
be. That's it. Then they exist no more. But they have to
1:00:52
it has to be in their physical form. You can't kill the spirit woll
1:01:00
Okay. This is an interesting statement too from King Wicco Mundo. Many magicians
1:01:04
have had help from gen's I've read stories of people in Saudi Arabia capturing them,
1:01:08
but they all died young. Interesting. They're basically like you know,
1:01:15
the familiar spirits you hear about with witchcraft and the dark occultic properties. When
1:01:20
you go in lead with these forces, it never comes out good in the
1:01:24
end. They've usually they've got the advantage over you. You're always at a
1:01:29
disadvantage, whether you believe it or not. That's the way that I should
1:01:32
work now. I always say, we have a term in the South.
1:01:35
You get the short end of the stick in this deal. Okay. And
1:01:40
that's the way they work. Okay, that's just the way it's gonna work.
1:01:44
And it's lit of like the leprechauns. You know, you always thought
1:01:46
you got your hand on that pot of gold, but you never did because
1:01:51
that's just the way they work. They would fool you every time, or
1:01:53
trick you into losing it. That's just the way. And the gen are
1:01:57
no different in that respect. I mean, he gotta be quicker than that.
1:02:01
Okay, let's get that gold. You're always chasing it, but you
1:02:05
never get it. Oh my gosh. Yeah, you know, I have
1:02:07
an interesting story my friend Brian, seeing he's been on the show before h
1:02:13
he met David Copperfield in person when he was younger, and he I believe,
1:02:21
I can't remember the whole story, but it was something It felt like
1:02:23
there was some kind of black magic or something going on that he was almost
1:02:28
like he was possessed, okay, like his eyes. You know, when
1:02:30
you deal when you deal with those kind of subjects, and I've been accustomed
1:02:35
to that myself, you're tempted to mess around with it, okay, when
1:02:39
you even if you're an illusionist to a magician and not a real real magician's
1:02:45
a magician. You are, I think tempted to mess around with stuff like
1:02:49
that because you're dealing with the subject that. You know, it's like the
1:02:52
dark Side in Star Wars. There's a temptation to it. There's a drawl
1:02:57
there, whether you want it or not, and you have to be very
1:03:00
careful. If you fall into the temptation of that, it can wrap those
1:03:04
dark chains of darkness around you and you're lost. You're lost whoever to the
1:03:09
dark side. Uh, you had to be very careful when you play around
1:03:13
with the dark side, because he can play around with you, I know,
1:03:17
right well, David Copperfield puts on a cool show though. Okay,
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oh yeah it's terrible. He's very good. No, thank you so much
1:03:28
for that, super sickert that that means the world to me. I appreciate
1:03:30
that. Yeah, you know that is that's interesting, David Blaine, if
1:03:35
these we're talking about magicians here here and none of your biz, I like
1:03:38
that name. Nun you bis, says David Blaine, is involved in a
1:03:42
Faustian bargain. Yeah, that's where it's like a deal with the devil,
1:03:45
right, yeah, well they supposedly so like the Magician of the Musician at
1:03:51
the Crossroads, magicians a lot of times, there's been a lot of stories.
1:03:55
Even Houdini is supposedly we've made packs with the devil to learn tricks and
1:04:00
they learn certain illusions they could perform and all that. But you have that
1:04:04
kind of a legend and a lot of professions like musicians. Wow. Yeah,
1:04:13
well, who knows, maybe there's some gens inhabiting the bodies of the
1:04:18
famous pop performers that we watched today, the ones that perform at the super
1:04:23
Bowl. Who knows, who knows? Man, this has been a fantastic
1:04:28
discussion today, Dennis, Thank you so much for being here. Oh my
1:04:30
gosh, Please, do you have any final thoughts on the Gin today before
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we go? Well, I think the Gin are very interesting subjects for anyone
1:04:42
today, but don't look too deep into them. You don't want to mess
1:04:45
with them. And like I said, they're tricky. They're very tricky,
1:04:48
and they're very ambiguous. They can treat you any way they want to.
1:04:54
So if you ever run into the Gin, get it hell, get help,
1:04:57
Okay, don't try to face them along. Be very careful because the
1:05:00
number one thing they work on is the mind. That's the thing that they
1:05:05
go after, like all of these so called evil spirits, that's one area
1:05:11
they can get you in. And you have to be very careful when dealing
1:05:15
with these forces. Without doubt. Oh yeah, it can be very dangerous
1:05:20
for sure. And Dennis, where where can people find you? Tell the
1:05:25
audience about your YouTube channel? Okay, Well, you can reach me anytime
1:05:30
at dinniswgirl dot com. That's my website. And also tonight I'll be doing
1:05:35
the show on Hunting the Shadows at nine o'clock PM Eastern Standard Time on YouTube.
1:05:41
Look, well, that's that's my YouTube channel name. By the way,
1:05:44
Hunting the Shadows YouTube channel. That'll be nine o'clock. We're gonna be
1:05:47
doing ghost Animals tonight, so it's gonna be very interesting. And I also
1:05:51
have another show I do on Friday nights at eight o'clock m which is called
1:05:57
Paranormal point of View, and I'm on'll be talking about this this Friday,
1:06:02
about when the paranormal strikes back. So that's going to be an interesting show.
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Oh my gosh, I can't wait. I love your shows, Dennis.
1:06:13
You it's always it's always interesting. I always learned something and I hope
1:06:16
the audience learned something today because I know I did. So thank you so
1:06:21
much again for being here today, Dennis, and always a pleasure. Absolutely,
1:06:26
I'll look forward to doing more shows with you because we always have.
1:06:29
We always have a really good time. Even when we're talking about all this
1:06:32
dark stuff, we still make it fun somehow, right, great great minds
1:06:40
think alike. Yes, absolutely, there you go totally. And I want
1:06:44
to thank everybody in the audience for being here today, you guys rot No,
1:06:47
thank you for that supersticker. And I also want to say another happy
1:06:51
birthday to Gus. He's one of my moderators. He's a doggy dog.
1:06:56
Okay, that's the girl. The girl and her gog Marien. Give Gus
1:06:59
a hug for me today that's his birthday. And so you guys come see
1:07:02
me tomorrow night. We'll be back here at eight o'clock PM with a remote
1:07:06
viewing show. I'm not exactly sure which target we're going to be discussing tomorrow
1:07:11
night, but I will figure that out before the show tomorrow. So you
1:07:15
guys, thanks again for being here. I'll see you tomorrow night, and
1:07:17
then come see me again this weekend. It's spaced out radio for another amazing
1:07:21
show there, Dinnis. Have a great day. We'll see you tonight over
1:07:26
on Hunting the Shadows. All right, you'll have a great day. Okay,
1:07:30
Bye y'all, Bye bye mass As many