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- 0:00Speaker 1: I Am all in. Oh, I.
- 0:17Speaker 2: Am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Everybody Scott Patterson, I Am all In podcast one eleven
- 0:24Speaker 1: productions iHeart Radio. I am joined by the Intrepid Crew,
- 0:28Speaker 1: all two thirds of the Intrepid Crew, Amy Sugarman, Danielle Romeo.
- 0:31Speaker 3: Have you been drinking Scotty Peas coffee? Because you seem
- 0:34Speaker 3: a little happinated.
- 0:36Speaker 1: Do I feel a little energized because I went to
- 0:40Speaker 1: the gym, I took a shower, I shaved, I ate
- 0:42Speaker 1: food all in the space of about forty five minutes
- 0:46Speaker 1: just to get to the podcast. And I did it.
- 0:49Speaker 1: And I'm very proud of myself and I'm energized. We're
- 0:52Speaker 1: ready to review season five, episodes twelve, Come Home and Boy,
- 0:58Speaker 1: after this episode, did I want to go home?
- 1:01Speaker 3: Okay?
- 1:02Speaker 1: Because it made me feel so nostalgic for home.
- 1:06Speaker 3: So there's a.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Lot, a lot, there's so many pieces of luggage here.
- 1:13Speaker 3: Yeah, because there's a lot of questions.
- 1:15Speaker 1: It's like, we need to check a lot of these bags.
- 1:18Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:18Speaker 1: They wouldn't let us on the plane with all these bags.
- 1:20Speaker 1: They said, you gotta check them.
- 1:23Speaker 3: I think we go in order we have to yeah,
- 1:27Speaker 3: because there's some major questions I have.
- 1:29Speaker 1: This This episode covered a lot of ground, so we better.
- 1:35Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go in order people's motivations. That's what that's
- 1:39Speaker 3: the tease I'll give, like I want to dig into
- 1:41Speaker 3: everyone's motivations. And yeah, I have to take a deep breath.
- 1:50Speaker 1: Let's all take it to come on, let's take a
- 1:53Speaker 1: breath ready.
- 1:59Speaker 3: I think everyone listening needs to take a deep breath.
- 2:01Speaker 1: To everybody to take a deep breath because we're about
- 2:03Speaker 1: to embark on a journey of a million steps here.
- 2:07Speaker 3: Could it could get rough? There's rough road ahead.
- 2:09Speaker 4: I think.
- 2:11Speaker 5: All right, this is season five, episode twelve, coming.
- 2:13Speaker 1: And spa Danielle Romo. It's going to take us on
- 2:16Speaker 1: the first part of the journey up the Mountain.
- 2:19Speaker 5: Air date February first, two thousand and five. Michelle is
- 2:23Speaker 5: upset that someone is sneaking into the guest rooms after
- 2:26Speaker 5: his room checks. Very offers to help Logan with his
- 2:30Speaker 5: article for the Yale Daily Newspaper. Richard learns of Emily's
- 2:35Speaker 5: date with Simon and Kim Wan's lane to attend her
- 2:40Speaker 5: lunar New Year party.
- 2:42Speaker 4: Was a pretty unpacked episode totally.
- 2:45Speaker 1: It was like it was like the one oh one
- 2:47Speaker 1: at rush hour. It was just it was amazing.
- 2:51Speaker 3: Before we start going through it, I want to ask
- 2:54Speaker 3: the three of you three questions right now. Give me
- 3:01Speaker 3: one word to describe how you feel about Logan.
- 3:06Speaker 1: I want to say, gifted, schmoozy.
- 3:15Speaker 3: Mine is three words.
- 3:17Speaker 5: You gave us one and you have to pick one.
- 3:20Speaker 3: It's playing the game, playing the game.
- 3:23Speaker 1: How she operates, see how she what she does.
- 3:26Speaker 3: Playing the game. So we'll dig into that. Now, give
- 3:30Speaker 3: me one word to describe your feelings right now about Emily.
- 3:35Speaker 1: Oh days of our Lives.
- 3:41Speaker 4: It was a little soap operating at the end. Now
- 3:44Speaker 4: you say it, I'm like, no, let me see it.
- 3:46Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit.
- 3:48Speaker 3: I just got that wasn't my vibe, but I get
- 3:51Speaker 3: where you guys are coming from. For me, it was
- 3:52Speaker 3: just like, oh.
- 3:55Speaker 5: No, yeah, I don't have a word. It's literally, oh no,
- 3:59Speaker 5: Like that's no.
- 4:00Speaker 1: You know what the word is for that last scene
- 4:03Speaker 1: is arch. It was two arch.
- 4:08Speaker 3: I don't think I know that word.
- 4:10Speaker 1: Bringing getting Christopher involved, plotting, plotting to bring.
- 4:15Speaker 3: We'll get into it. We'll get into it, okay, So
- 4:19Speaker 3: let's start with the cutest scene in the bed with
- 4:23Speaker 3: Luke and Lorlai. They're so they're so in love, they're
- 4:25Speaker 3: so comfortable, they're so together.
- 4:27Speaker 5: Right here wearing their flannels. Cute.
- 4:30Speaker 3: Yeah, his bed is cute. I feel like he's got
- 4:34Speaker 3: like these cute sheets now and like more pillows and
- 4:37Speaker 3: like a cute comforter. They're going to bed at the
- 4:40Speaker 3: very early hour, can I tell you not? Really?
- 4:44Speaker 5: Nine thirty is not early for a four am wake up.
- 4:47Speaker 1: That's not early at all, Like Luke's on.
- 4:49Speaker 5: My schedule, nine thirty lights out, call it a day.
- 4:53Speaker 1: I wish I could get to bed at nine thirty.
- 4:55Speaker 1: I can't. I go upstairs at nine thirty, but I
- 4:57Speaker 1: don't go to bed.
- 4:58Speaker 3: I go to bed like two. Wait, what were you
- 4:59Speaker 3: gonna say? Two? Yeah, I'm like a vampire. But Scott,
- 5:03Speaker 3: you tell me what you're gonna say.
- 5:04Speaker 1: I want to hear you really look forward to those
- 5:06Speaker 1: scenes when you're just you're just laying in bed. So great.
- 5:10Speaker 1: Those are good days, man. When you get to do
- 5:12Speaker 1: a scene just laying in bed, you don't have to
- 5:15Speaker 1: move around, you don't have to block it. You just
- 5:18Speaker 1: get in the sheets.
- 5:20Speaker 5: Do you have to block like being in bed because
- 5:23Speaker 5: you know in the diner you're like, oh, here's the coffee,
- 5:25Speaker 5: here's the toast whatever, Like is it like, here's the sheet.
- 5:29Speaker 1: Well, you just sort of have to check. You have
- 5:32Speaker 1: to check positions right and that. But it's easy. It's
- 5:35Speaker 1: a very quick rehearsal.
- 5:37Speaker 3: And she does that move a lot coming out of
- 5:39Speaker 3: that bathroom in the shirt, Like I've seen that move
- 5:42Speaker 3: like four times now and in the shirt.
- 5:47Speaker 1: I love those bed scenes.
- 5:49Speaker 3: Love it you guys have on On just said it
- 5:51Speaker 3: so quiet? Doesn't e Wan have a pin? I want
- 5:54Speaker 3: to hear it drop? So good. Now here's my question
- 6:00Speaker 3: es Logistically, he lives three minutes from her, right, like,
- 6:07Speaker 3: what's the walk five minutes maybe? Mmmm?
- 6:12Speaker 1: Well, in real I mean the way the back lot.
- 6:16Speaker 3: Of sense Up said yeah, because let's pretend that's real.
- 6:19Speaker 1: Uh well, okay, so her house, Yeah, her house is
- 6:23Speaker 1: right across the town square, so it's like she can
- 6:28Speaker 1: be on her front stoop and see my diner.
- 6:32Speaker 3: Right. So here's what I would do. I would get
- 6:35Speaker 3: in bed with you fall asleep, I'd go across back
- 6:40Speaker 3: to my house, watch TV for a few hours, do
- 6:43Speaker 3: my pitdling around, my emails, my ironing, whatever I want
- 6:47Speaker 3: to do, and then come back. Nobody likes that. What
- 6:53Speaker 3: instead of trying to fall asleep at nine when she can't, you.
- 6:58Speaker 1: Have a chance to get in bed with Luke Dane.
- 7:01Speaker 1: And you're saying, I don't want to be in bed
- 7:03Speaker 1: with Luke Dane's I want to go do ironing.
- 7:05Speaker 3: Correct, She's gonna lay there while you fall asleep. You
- 7:09Speaker 3: have your like cuddling time, and then when you're snoring,
- 7:14Speaker 3: she gets up. She goes back to her house, watches
- 7:16Speaker 3: her shows, eats her popcorn, does her thing, and then
- 7:19Speaker 3: at midnight or whatever, she just walks back over. That
- 7:22Speaker 3: seems like so much work, really seems so logistically like.
- 7:27Speaker 1: That's you, that's Amy Sugarman.
- 7:30Speaker 3: I have used that time wise.
- 7:33Speaker 1: This week, Amy Sugarman will be playing the role of
- 7:35Speaker 1: Laurel I, and she won't be in bed. She'll be
- 7:37Speaker 1: doing a million different.
- 7:38Speaker 3: Because there's nothing worse for me than trying to fall
- 7:41Speaker 3: asleep early when I am not tired and cannot fall asleep.
- 7:46Speaker 3: That would be so terrible.
- 7:49Speaker 4: Do you guys sleep with the TV on or all?
- 7:54Speaker 1: Who? Luke and Laurel I?
- 7:56Speaker 4: Yeah, say you guys, we don't have.
- 7:59Speaker 1: A TV in the bedroom.
- 8:00Speaker 3: Oh that's a good question. Wait, Danielle, do you guys?
- 8:05Speaker 5: Well, my husband is always up later than I am,
- 8:09Speaker 5: so he always has the TV on. So technically I
- 8:11Speaker 5: do fall asleep with the TV on. But if it's
- 8:13Speaker 5: just me, that thing come turns off and I fall asleep.
- 8:17Speaker 4: Tara, I have a TV in my room, but I
- 8:20Speaker 4: turn it off before I go to bed, so I
- 8:22Speaker 4: never fall asleep with it on.
- 8:23Speaker 3: Same but I love I mean, look, let's just get
- 8:26Speaker 3: to the ending part. The fact that he got a
- 8:28Speaker 3: TV for her is.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Just no.
- 8:31Speaker 5: Very old old TV. That thing is only playing black
- 8:34Speaker 5: and white like cartoons, like that's all you got on.
- 8:38Speaker 3: Like a VCR. He's playing a VCR. She could watch
- 8:44Speaker 3: Back to the Future on v But okay, so we
- 8:49Speaker 3: all feel great about the opening, right.
- 8:52Speaker 1: Oh sure, yeah, seeing these two kids, take these crazy
- 8:55Speaker 1: kids together.
- 8:56Speaker 3: Then we bebop over to Yale and we're in the
- 8:58Speaker 3: newsroom and we learn that Mitcham has come.
- 9:02Speaker 1: By, and that was a funny scene.
- 9:06Speaker 3: Doyle's in a real dither like.
- 9:09Speaker 1: And what I loved about that scene is we found
- 9:11Speaker 1: out what I always suspected, that Logan is gifted, yeah,
- 9:16Speaker 1: and that he's a hell of a writer and he
- 9:17Speaker 1: doesn't even try, and he's you know, God gave him
- 9:20Speaker 1: everything with both hands, money and looks and talent and
- 9:24Speaker 1: brains and the whole thing, and he don't even care.
- 9:28Speaker 1: And it's just it's yay.
- 9:30Speaker 3: Right, he deserves to be at Yelle. He's super smart.
- 9:33Speaker 3: She's just that guy.
- 9:34Speaker 1: Can I just say, I just I love. I love
- 9:39Speaker 1: Matt Sugre's portrayal of this character because he's throwing everything
- 9:43Speaker 1: away and it's always about how he feels about Rory,
- 9:47Speaker 1: and it's always how he feels about something. He doesn't
- 9:50Speaker 1: make it about the dialogue. He just throws it away.
- 9:53Speaker 1: It's just like he clips it, clips and clips, and
- 9:55Speaker 1: he's he's got such an ease and he breeze and
- 9:57Speaker 1: that's perfect for that character.
- 9:59Speaker 3: Yeah, I love watching him.
- 10:02Speaker 1: I was waiting the entire episode just for Logan scenes.
- 10:06Speaker 1: There weren't enough. I was not happy. Where are they?
- 10:10Speaker 1: Let's you know, come on now?
- 10:12Speaker 3: So I get that Logan is a polarizing guy, right,
- 10:16Speaker 3: like people, they dislike Logan, But I think one of
- 10:21Speaker 3: the reasons I love him is Scott what you're saying,
- 10:24Speaker 3: I love probably love Matt Zuker's portrayal of this guy. Right,
- 10:30Speaker 3: he makes him so likable and cool, so like, I'm
- 10:34Speaker 3: not analyzing him like is this the greatest guy on
- 10:36Speaker 3: the planet. I'm analyzing it, like I freaking love watching this.
- 10:40Speaker 1: Guy because he's so present in those scenes. He's there
- 10:45Speaker 1: and he's with her, and he's paying looking at her,
- 10:50Speaker 1: and it's about her. He simplifies, He simplifies everything to
- 10:57Speaker 1: the point where it's down to its basic roots, and
- 11:00Speaker 1: it's really fascinating to watch.
- 11:03Speaker 3: I agree, because now Rory is just giddy, giddy two shoe,
- 11:09Speaker 3: like she can't deal anymore with how much she likes him.
- 11:13Speaker 1: Well, he threw in a Seymour hersh and she all
- 11:15Speaker 1: lit up, which I all of a sudden, she's getting
- 11:18Speaker 1: all giddy, and I'm just like, is that a good
- 11:21Speaker 1: look for Rory?
- 11:22Speaker 4: You know?
- 11:23Speaker 1: Is that it's like, all of a sudden, now she's
- 11:25Speaker 1: interested in a real sense.
- 11:28Speaker 3: So okay, that's a great question.
- 11:29Speaker 1: Right, how did you guys feel about that?
- 11:32Speaker 3: I like having someone have the upper hand over her
- 11:35Speaker 3: for once, because even with Jess, she's even though Jess
- 11:39Speaker 3: was kind of, you know, broody and like mysterious, She's
- 11:43Speaker 3: still always kind of had the upper hand or at
- 11:45Speaker 3: least it was really equal in this case. Now Logan
- 11:50Speaker 3: has the upper hand. They were sort of equal a
- 11:52Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago. But I think he's controlling this relationship.
- 11:55Speaker 1: Now, Okay, you you you, Here's here's a question for
- 11:59Speaker 1: each one. I'm gonna take a page out of Amy's book,
- 12:01Speaker 1: and I'm going to take over the podcast right now.
- 12:03Speaker 1: I'm gonna start asking people questions. I'm going to do.
- 12:06Speaker 1: Here we go, Ready, Ready? Would you watch the Logan
- 12:11Speaker 1: Rory Mitcham Yale review spin off?
- 12:17Speaker 4: I would?
- 12:19Speaker 1: That's a show. Why you're you're not a Logan fan, right, y'all.
- 12:26Speaker 3: Hasn't really met Mitcham yet either, that's true, and she
- 12:30Speaker 3: doesn't know Logan well enough.
- 12:31Speaker 5: Like I would watch, to be completely honest with everyone
- 12:35Speaker 5: on this podcast, the Yale Daily Newspaper scenes aren't it
- 12:41Speaker 5: for me? Okay, it's just a spin off of that.
- 12:46Speaker 5: It just always feels like filler to me.
- 12:49Speaker 3: I do like Doyle, really.
- 12:52Speaker 1: That's interesting where we're going? That is so interesting? That
- 12:56Speaker 1: feels like filler to you. For me, it's the main attraction.
- 12:59Speaker 1: It's like all the all the Korean stuff feels like
- 13:02Speaker 1: filler to oh.
- 13:03Speaker 5: That is definitely a filler, but.
- 13:08Speaker 3: Like, I disagree with you all so much because I
- 13:12Speaker 3: love everything at the Kims and we'll talk about why.
- 13:15Speaker 1: I got a lot of laughs out of it. But
- 13:16Speaker 1: it's like I'm not waiting for it, you know.
- 13:20Speaker 3: I'm waiting for Logan and Rory, and I'm waiting for
- 13:23Speaker 3: Lougan Lorli and I'm waiting for Emily and Richard. That's
- 13:26Speaker 3: like I like.
- 13:27Speaker 5: Rriyan Logan, you know, doing the secret society stuff and
- 13:31Speaker 5: you know the the Yale you know, the Yale stuff outside,
- 13:35Speaker 5: just like the newspaper room. Just like I'm always like, well.
- 13:38Speaker 3: What about the pub scenes the bar?
- 13:41Speaker 5: I love all that, okay, just like the newspaper stuff,
- 13:44Speaker 5: So I wouldn't watch it.
- 13:45Speaker 4: You know. It's kind of like they just needed to
- 13:48Speaker 4: be sitting in a classroom during school, but that's where
- 13:51Speaker 4: they can socialize, like you can't talk and like no.
- 13:54Speaker 3: But they need the newsroom because that's where we learn
- 13:57Speaker 3: that Mitch has come by, Doyle's freaking out, and Rory's like, oh,
- 14:00Speaker 3: help them, help.
- 14:01Speaker 4: Them, like what for Danielle. It's kind of like it's
- 14:06Speaker 4: the base of like what's to come, Like that's why
- 14:08Speaker 4: they meet at the pub or that's why they did
- 14:11Speaker 4: the you know, society. So I get what you're saying.
- 14:15Speaker 3: So what do you think of the inn scenes? So
- 14:18Speaker 3: after we leave the newsroom and we know that Rory's
- 14:21Speaker 3: definitely got a big old crush, we go to the
- 14:24Speaker 3: inn and we're having the staff meeting.
- 14:27Speaker 4: Oh my god, I love that Kirk is now getting
- 14:29Speaker 4: into hospitality.
- 14:34Speaker 6: That he also is like I want to get into it,
- 14:36Speaker 6: like like is he didn't just show up for no reason?
- 14:38Speaker 4: He's like I want to learn?
- 14:40Speaker 3: Oh god, what do you mean?
- 14:41Speaker 5: What do you think When Michelle says that someone is
- 14:44Speaker 5: stealing the chocolate? I was like, a wild guess who
- 14:49Speaker 5: is stealing the chocolate?
- 14:50Speaker 3: Did you know right away it was Suki?
- 14:52Speaker 5: Oh. I mean if it had to be anybody there,
- 14:54Speaker 5: it's going to be the pregnant lady for sure. He
- 14:59Speaker 5: was like too, yeah, like that would be me.
- 15:02Speaker 3: I love that it's to guys. So, Scott, what do
- 15:06Speaker 3: you think of like the sort of going to the end.
- 15:10Speaker 3: Does that feel like filler to you? Or that feels
- 15:12Speaker 3: like good content.
- 15:16Speaker 1: Filler ish?
- 15:18Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, you know to me it's the most filler ish.
- 15:22Speaker 3: I don't mind it.
- 15:23Speaker 1: When when how do I say this? It was like
- 15:34Speaker 1: almost like they're introducing a completely new It's like they
- 15:39Speaker 1: didn't really have a narrative to go with at the end.
- 15:43Speaker 1: It was just sort of hey, wacky funny stuff at
- 15:47Speaker 1: the end, and let's go touch on that stuff. But
- 15:49Speaker 1: it's there was no like real uh, it wasn't really
- 15:53Speaker 1: adding to the tension or the drama of.
- 15:56Speaker 3: I really as a whole.
- 15:58Speaker 1: It was just kind of funny Gilmoury. Yes, you know,
- 16:04Speaker 1: a chance for Michelle to shine what she always does,
- 16:07Speaker 1: a chance for Sewan Gun to shine what she always does. Ye,
- 16:10Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing. So it was a
- 16:12Speaker 1: nice It was a nice place to breathe and relax
- 16:15Speaker 1: and just sort of take it in and enjoy it,
- 16:17Speaker 1: you know.
- 16:17Speaker 3: Valid because I think there's parallels as well as connection
- 16:23Speaker 3: between Luke and Laura Lai, Emily and Richard Logan and Rory. Right,
- 16:27Speaker 3: we can like dissect it for days, the kim House
- 16:31Speaker 3: stuff which we can talk about, and the In stuff
- 16:33Speaker 3: is kind of like isolated, it's not totally connected. So
- 16:37Speaker 3: it is technically is filler. That's not even a criticism,
- 16:41Speaker 3: That's what it is.
- 16:44Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like another show almost.
- 16:46Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean I enjoy it. I find myself
- 16:49Speaker 3: at the inn scenes just really looking at the decor of.
- 16:52Speaker 1: The inn, right good, didn't it?
- 16:53Speaker 4: The twall and the crazy It's.
- 16:56Speaker 3: Insane that that where they are all having their eating
- 17:00Speaker 3: and the tables and the detail and just all the
- 17:03Speaker 3: like blue and white decor and the chotchkey stuff everywhere.
- 17:07Speaker 3: And then when you're in the hotel room, the in room,
- 17:10Speaker 3: whatever you call it, it's just designed so detailed.
- 17:15Speaker 1: The one, the one knock I have about why wasn't
- 17:22Speaker 1: Sean I mean Sean, Why wasn't Kirk given a job
- 17:26Speaker 1: at the end? He's so useful. I mean, just to
- 17:29Speaker 1: hire the guy. Then he can be around more, He
- 17:32Speaker 1: can be in more scenes. Why can't he help out
- 17:35Speaker 1: in the kitchen?
- 17:36Speaker 4: Time for him to get to the end.
- 17:38Speaker 5: Didn't he have a job in the beginning?
- 17:40Speaker 1: But he's got a million jobs. He's always inventing. He's
- 17:44Speaker 1: always inventing a job for himself.
- 17:46Speaker 5: You mean, like a sturdy job at the Why not?
- 17:48Speaker 1: I mean he's a jack of all trades. You could
- 17:50Speaker 1: plug him into any situation. He could always enhance the comedy.
- 17:55Speaker 1: I mean Michelle's bringing the heat or Laurlize bring in
- 17:59Speaker 1: the heat. Suki's bringing the heat. You got another comedy
- 18:02Speaker 1: master there and showing gunn get him in the end,
- 18:05Speaker 1: get them in more scenes.
- 18:07Speaker 5: Let's go.
- 18:07Speaker 1: Don't don't like you know, Suki Like now I'll get
- 18:10Speaker 1: out of here. I'm not hiring you. Yes, hire them,
- 18:14Speaker 1: So we go from this.
- 18:16Speaker 3: I agree, we go from the end to the diner. Now,
- 18:19Speaker 3: I personally loved this scene. I love the scenes with
- 18:24Speaker 3: Lane and is it Kim? Does Suzanne play Kim? I
- 18:28Speaker 3: know her real name is Suzanne? What is the exchange
- 18:32Speaker 3: students for the Exchange?
- 18:35Speaker 4: Oh? Kay on.
- 18:37Speaker 3: Okay? So I love their banter and that she's bringing
- 18:42Speaker 3: the scoop because she wants the Monte Cristo sandwich. I'm
- 18:46Speaker 3: just like a fricking genius. Then I sort of did
- 18:49Speaker 3: like the interaction of the band looking at their photos
- 18:52Speaker 3: and Lane doesn't like how she looks right. Relatable, Yes,
- 19:01Speaker 3: it was relatable. It was like all relatable and funny
- 19:05Speaker 3: and just totally amusing, and I liked the whole thing.
- 19:09Speaker 4: I actually like the interaction here with Kaion compared to
- 19:13Speaker 4: the last time when we were like none of us
- 19:15Speaker 4: were really into that storyline, because I think now she
- 19:20Speaker 4: she's kind of in this world where she gets why
- 19:22Speaker 4: Lane left. Yeah, and so we're seeing that and Lane's
- 19:25Speaker 4: kind of helping her guide her like she's like I've
- 19:27Speaker 4: been through this, Like I'll sandwich she with Blane a bit. Yeah.
- 19:34Speaker 4: I thought it was a nice scene me too, And.
- 19:37Speaker 3: I actually am totally enjoying Brian and Zach. I think
- 19:41Speaker 3: they're bringing something. It's never going to be, you know,
- 19:47Speaker 3: what's his doozy Dave Bragowski, but it's bringing something. I
- 19:52Speaker 3: kept wanting, what is Adam's last name? Why isn't Adam
- 19:55Speaker 3: Adam Brody Adam Brody? Look, I'm old it went right
- 19:58Speaker 3: out of my head. So so Scott, like, where do
- 20:01Speaker 3: you stand on that filler or content?
- 20:07Speaker 1: If you have Sebastian Bach in a scene, I don't
- 20:11Speaker 1: know how you call it filler?
- 20:13Speaker 5: Right?
- 20:14Speaker 1: You know, he's he's a rock star for a reason
- 20:18Speaker 1: because he's got he's got that real presence. I agree.
- 20:22Speaker 3: I think he steals every scene he's in.
- 20:24Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ever going to be nominated
- 20:27Speaker 1: for an Emmy, right, but he's doing a solid job,
- 20:31Speaker 1: and he's got that screen presence, and he's got that delivery,
- 20:36Speaker 1: and he's gil he's he's Gil, He's he's one hundred
- 20:40Speaker 1: percent that character. He's that guy, and he's playing a
- 20:44Speaker 1: sort of a Korean loot like thing and he going
- 20:46Speaker 1: that ross, you know, and it's like who else can
- 20:50Speaker 1: do that?
- 20:51Speaker 3: Yeah? He levels up all those scenes. He wasn't in
- 20:53Speaker 3: this particular diner scene, but I know we're talking broad
- 20:55Speaker 3: strokes about the band, and it's like he does even
- 20:59Speaker 3: when they're at the door work and he's knocking, like
- 21:01Speaker 3: it's just like everything he does is when he has
- 21:06Speaker 3: the kid, can I get up?
- 21:08Speaker 1: But he's but he's used to, you know what, thirty
- 21:10Speaker 1: years now of being a charismatic frontman for a platinum
- 21:15Speaker 1: selling band. Yeah, and now you realize, well, that takes
- 21:20Speaker 1: a very charismatic individual.
- 21:23Speaker 3: That's such a great point because he has so much
- 21:25Speaker 3: stage presence, right, So you'd see that in his scenes.
- 21:29Speaker 1: And you either have that or you do not, and
- 21:32Speaker 1: there are not a lot of people that have that,
- 21:34Speaker 1: which is why frontmen are so vital. And now you
- 21:38Speaker 1: put him in a grape and you put him in
- 21:40Speaker 1: a TV show, right, and he's kind of rocking it.
- 21:45Speaker 3: He's totally rocketed. But whose hair was worse? Zach's weird mullet.
- 21:49Speaker 3: This is when I'm jumping ahead to the Kims or
- 21:52Speaker 3: Sebastian box, just like Crazy.
- 21:54Speaker 4: Maine, but I feel like that's Sebastian, like he has.
- 22:00Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 22:01Speaker 3: So okay. So we go from the diner scene where
- 22:04Speaker 3: they're looking at the photos to Richard and Emily and
- 22:07Speaker 3: we see them for the first time in this episode.
- 22:12Speaker 3: Just you knew, you knew they were falling back in
- 22:15Speaker 3: love because they're they're having they're so civil discussing, you know,
- 22:20Speaker 3: talking about the Mercedes leases up and oh you should
- 22:22Speaker 3: buy it, but your hair looks perfect, and it's just like, oh,
- 22:26Speaker 3: man cute.
- 22:29Speaker 5: And that they should go both go to the event together.
- 22:32Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was so I'm so happy they're on
- 22:38Speaker 3: the road to recovery.
- 22:40Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nice. It's nice to see it.
- 22:42Speaker 3: So then my favorite scene, we go to the bar,
- 22:45Speaker 3: the pub whatever, I don't know the name of that.
- 22:47Speaker 3: It probably has a name and people are gonna yell
- 22:49Speaker 3: at me, but the ro the Yale Pub. Hey, Ace, oh, Logan,
- 22:54Speaker 3: I didn't see you.
- 22:55Speaker 5: And she she is in a tizzy like she control herself.
- 23:03Speaker 2: I just love how all of her notes are like,
- 23:05Speaker 2: like who takes that much notes to the pub like research,
- 23:10Speaker 2: like like I was like, you could have picked anywhere else,
- 23:12Speaker 2: or like it so obvious.
- 23:15Speaker 7: She's so squirrely good good good, so good, so good,
- 23:18Speaker 7: so good, Like it's just oh my god, my notes
- 23:25Speaker 7: just say she loves him.
- 23:27Speaker 5: Yeah, she's definitely definitely has a crush for sure.
- 23:32Speaker 3: Also, I love the scarves. The scars are back and
- 23:35Speaker 3: tells us that Swinter the scars.
- 23:36Speaker 4: Are you last I was like, it's always like thrown back,
- 23:40Speaker 4: like it's never like like down on the side. It's
- 23:43Speaker 4: always like wrapped around. I'm like, oh, it's.
- 23:45Speaker 3: Coold, Scott. I do not want to critique the wardrobe
- 23:48Speaker 3: person on Gilmore Girls, but literally scarf is just like
- 23:53Speaker 3: indicates it's cold. Oh my god, speaking up, did you
- 23:57Speaker 3: guys hear Melissa McCarthy just said in an interview her
- 24:01Speaker 3: one did you see it? Scott?
- 24:03Speaker 1: Yeah, I just was with talking to a friend on
- 24:05Speaker 1: the phone and it popped up, So it' Scott.
- 24:06Speaker 3: You tell her. One criticism of Gilmore Girls was that.
- 24:10Speaker 1: You know, it's winter and everybody's wearing coats and hats
- 24:13Speaker 1: and scarves, and Colt's one hundred and twelve degrees in
- 24:16Speaker 1: Burbank and it's just sweating your badoobies off.
- 24:20Speaker 6: Okay, there was a comment on our instagram like how
- 24:23Speaker 6: did they make this ice drink in the middle of
- 24:25Speaker 6: Los Angeles?
- 24:26Speaker 4: Like I was actually like, oh, you're in a good point.
- 24:28Speaker 1: Well it's not nice. It's it's as sort of a
- 24:30Speaker 1: plasticy substance that you can skate on top of. It's
- 24:35Speaker 1: not realized. Yeah, it's like a fiberglass thing kind of you.
- 24:40Speaker 3: Know what's funny? I interject of our breakdown in that, like,
- 24:44Speaker 3: think about this, you, Lauren, Melissa, Matt, Milo, chat everybody
- 24:53Speaker 3: right who's still working and doing things is always twenty
- 24:58Speaker 3: years later, asked about Gilmer, I mean, think of all
- 25:01Speaker 3: the things Melissa's done, and it still goes back to
- 25:03Speaker 3: Gilmore Girls, and like the things they say that get
- 25:06Speaker 3: press and I know I'm getting in the weeds. Here
- 25:09Speaker 3: is always about Gilmore Girls, Like when you're reading about Milow,
- 25:12Speaker 3: it's always like he's team Jess, you know or whatever,
- 25:15Speaker 3: Like it's always goes back. So anyway, I digress, No,
- 25:18Speaker 3: but I mean, just to.
- 25:22Speaker 1: Comment further, Yes, we were sweating profusely all day in
- 25:31Speaker 1: those winter scenes fall scene.
- 25:33Speaker 3: Maybe that's why the skinny scar It's never.
- 25:36Speaker 1: It's never below ninety degrees in Burbank. Never, it never
- 25:42Speaker 1: has been and it never will be. So you're going
- 25:47Speaker 1: to work in August July? Actually no, no, no, no,
- 25:53Speaker 1: you're not, but you are going when is our hate
- 25:58Speaker 1: this beginning July?
- 26:00Speaker 3: We were back by August.
- 26:01Speaker 1: Where we black by, but we were sweating our beans off.
- 26:04Speaker 3: Well, and you know, it's funny like that. There's not
- 26:06Speaker 3: a lot of trees kind of overhanging on that set.
- 26:11Speaker 3: It's pretty out there, so it'd be sweating.
- 26:14Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything more draining. And I know,
- 26:17Speaker 1: you know, and I've worked a lot of jobs in
- 26:20Speaker 1: my life, construction in the summers and all kinds of jobs,
- 26:23Speaker 1: and there's just nothing draine you faster than working in the.
- 26:26Speaker 3: Heat in a wool coat.
- 26:28Speaker 1: Well, I mean even like, you know, when I was
- 26:31Speaker 1: doing construction, it was in a T shirt obviously in
- 26:33Speaker 1: the same time. But man, yeah, you're wrapped in scarves
- 26:39Speaker 1: and wool gloves and hats, and oh god, it's hard.
- 26:43Speaker 1: It's hard, and it causes so many delays because the
- 26:47Speaker 1: makeup department in the hair department are losing their minds
- 26:51Speaker 1: because their jobs are so hard. At that point because
- 26:54Speaker 1: they have to everything's got a match. So it's like
- 26:57Speaker 1: they go to the director and say, we got to
- 27:00Speaker 1: go in and help Laurence hair and they have to
- 27:03Speaker 1: do it. I mean, it's like it just falls, it
- 27:06Speaker 1: gets flat, and they've got up fluff it up, and
- 27:07Speaker 1: it takes time to do it right, and poor Lauren
- 27:10Speaker 1: has to stand there and she's still sweating. So she's
- 27:13Speaker 1: got five assistants or PA's standing around her with these
- 27:18Speaker 1: mini fans, you know, those tiny little fans and just
- 27:23Speaker 1: like bombing her with those fans to try to cool
- 27:25Speaker 1: her down. And then they got to do her makeup again,
- 27:28Speaker 1: and it's just like it takes forever. Then you just
- 27:33Speaker 1: it just gets hotter and hotter and hotter, and they
- 27:36Speaker 1: try to pipe in some air conditioning in the tube
- 27:40Speaker 1: and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. But they
- 27:42Speaker 1: can't play it during the scene because it makes too
- 27:44Speaker 1: much noise, and sound department says, hey, turn that off,
- 27:46Speaker 1: you know, and then Laurence starts sweating when they turn
- 27:49Speaker 1: it off and said, hey, turn the thing. Oh Laurence sweating.
- 27:51Speaker 1: It's like who's on first? Kind of a thing. I
- 27:54Speaker 1: took three changes of underwear to work per day. I
- 28:00Speaker 1: just want to say, you sweat, you sweat through your knickers.
- 28:07Speaker 4: Is your showers in your trailer?
- 28:08Speaker 1: Yes?
- 28:09Speaker 3: Oh good question.
- 28:10Speaker 1: Well once once we got larger trailers.
- 28:13Speaker 8: Yeah, got it, that would yeah, and they were used. Yeah, yeah,
- 28:21Speaker 8: turn on the cold water and just get in and yeah.
- 28:25Speaker 1: Yes.
- 28:30Speaker 3: So Logan says, how can I never see you around?
- 28:33Speaker 3: Which I kind of like because she's like, you know,
- 28:35Speaker 3: they just live such different lives at Yale.
- 28:39Speaker 4: And then she her whole freshman year, she didn't go anywhere, right,
- 28:42Speaker 4: and she still doesn't do much. Wouldn't go anywhere.
- 28:45Speaker 3: No, she's at the library and the coffee cart and
- 28:47Speaker 3: maybe the froyo. Oh my god. Shout out to everyone
- 28:51Speaker 3: who commented when for the guest we had last week,
- 28:54Speaker 3: you know who was the student that came to visit
- 28:56Speaker 3: from children And everyone's like, yeah, that girl's some froyo anyway,
- 29:04Speaker 3: So obviously, yes, as Scott mentioned, Rory is so like
- 29:07Speaker 3: excited about Seymour hirsh and how lucky Logan is that
- 29:10Speaker 3: he gets to go to this party and you do
- 29:13Speaker 3: think he's gonna ask her to go.
- 29:16Speaker 4: I was like on the edge of my seat.
- 29:18Speaker 1: I was like, here's the question, do you think he
- 29:20Speaker 1: knew that she wanted and was just playing with her.
- 29:27Speaker 3: Because he's like, I can't. He likes her too, right,
- 29:30Speaker 3: but he's not like gonna, you don't go from zero
- 29:32Speaker 3: to one hundred. He's like pace this, pace this anymore.
- 29:36Speaker 5: I think anything. He is playing games, that's what he's doing.
- 29:40Speaker 5: He's like, I know she wants to go. I like her,
- 29:43Speaker 5: but I'm not gonna invite her, you know.
- 29:46Speaker 4: Like he's got to watch her scorb want.
- 29:49Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was still so cute though. Did you
- 29:52Speaker 3: like the scene or did you not like that Logan
- 29:54Speaker 3: didn't ask her?
- 29:55Speaker 4: No, I liked it because I think Rory always with
- 29:58Speaker 4: previous guys, she kind of gets her way.
- 30:00Speaker 5: Yeah, I do agree with that. It was nice to
- 30:02Speaker 5: see her squirm, you know, like usually she's not the
- 30:05Speaker 5: one doing that.
- 30:06Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Scott, do you think Logan should have asked
- 30:09Speaker 3: her to go to the party.
- 30:13Speaker 4: Too much?
- 30:13Speaker 3: Too much? You can't just suddenly like they haven't even
- 30:15Speaker 3: been on a date and he's gonna.
- 30:17Speaker 1: He's playing. He's playing. He's playing a mean game of chess. Yeah,
- 30:22Speaker 1: he's a very patient player.
- 30:24Speaker 4: Also, like I think with inviting her, it's he has
- 30:27Speaker 4: to remember that, like his parents know the Gilmour's right,
- 30:31Speaker 4: So it kind of opens more of a can of worms.
- 30:33Speaker 5: And this is writing off of the prank that Richard
- 30:36Speaker 5: laid on him. He's up the wedding, you know, like right,
- 30:41Speaker 5: so I can I can understand why he's you know,
- 30:45Speaker 5: keeping a little bit of a distance.
- 30:46Speaker 3: But yeah, so we go back to the diner and
- 30:50Speaker 3: we see Lane without glasses. First of all, what does
- 30:53Speaker 3: everybody think of Lane without glasses?
- 30:56Speaker 5: She looks the same.
- 31:00Speaker 4: Totally.
- 31:01Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know what they were talking about.
- 31:04Speaker 1: I had no idea what she was. I was like,
- 31:06Speaker 1: what is the what is beautiful?
- 31:08Speaker 5: Either way? But I'm like, it's the same, it's still late.
- 31:13Speaker 3: I love that Zach loves the glasses. There is something
- 31:15Speaker 3: really cute about that, and he wants her to meet
- 31:18Speaker 3: with the glasses and he likes her how she is
- 31:20Speaker 3: and that she's smart and all the things a smart girl.
- 31:26Speaker 1: You know.
- 31:27Speaker 5: What it reminded me of is during COVID when everyone
- 31:29Speaker 5: wore a mask and you saw them without a mask
- 31:31Speaker 5: for the first.
- 31:32Speaker 4: Time and you were like, whoa about what I thought?
- 31:35Speaker 4: You looked like, Yeah, that's so true.
- 31:42Speaker 3: Just like everyone's like smiling under the you know, like
- 31:45Speaker 3: when someone you can't even smile under the mask, you
- 31:48Speaker 3: just don't even know what's happening in your eyes, like comparison.
- 31:53Speaker 3: So it is a little unrealistic that Lurlai read the
- 31:56Speaker 3: Oven Manual, but yet it was a funny bit. It
- 31:59Speaker 3: was like, okay, funny, funny bit.
- 32:03Speaker 5: But also like that's Luke's thing, you know, like he
- 32:08Speaker 5: knows everything. He would haven and like you know, like
- 32:12Speaker 5: he's not getting pointers from Lurlie, like he knows the manual,
- 32:16Speaker 5: you know.
- 32:16Speaker 3: Like I kind of was like, agree, he would have
- 32:19Speaker 3: known how to do it. Are so okay. So still
- 32:25Speaker 3: in that scene, I do like all the lane Zach
- 32:28Speaker 3: stuff there, and we got that whole thing. Then we
- 32:33Speaker 3: go to Richard's office and it felt random at first,
- 32:38Speaker 3: and then you realize, oh, leap, she's got the two guys.
- 32:43Speaker 3: They're hav an office talk. He's got his nice office
- 32:46Speaker 3: and they bring up Simon McLean and it's just.
- 32:48Speaker 2: Oh no.
- 32:50Speaker 1: I gotta say that was one of the best acting
- 32:53Speaker 1: jobs that I that the episode possesses. When he took
- 33:01Speaker 1: that hit, you could, you know, you could barely. It
- 33:04Speaker 1: didn't register. He wasn't gonna show his cards and man,
- 33:09Speaker 1: and then he he just did one of those. Yeah,
- 33:13Speaker 1: and he just don't know what a hit he took, man,
- 33:16Speaker 1: and he just he just toughed it out and got
- 33:19Speaker 1: through it. And great, great acting job. See if he
- 33:24Speaker 1: doesn't have to he has to feel it, but he
- 33:26Speaker 1: doesn't have to show it so that we can feel
- 33:28Speaker 1: it so much. Yeah, great job.
- 33:30Speaker 3: Great analyzing because I love how you're saying it because
- 33:33Speaker 3: I kind of wrote my notes like Richard rebounds because
- 33:36Speaker 3: it's like he did he acted it all and it
- 33:39Speaker 3: was quick, but you saw him go like, but.
- 33:44Speaker 1: It doesn't take much. It's like, let us feel it.
- 33:46Speaker 1: If you're feeling it too much, then we don't have
- 33:48Speaker 1: to feel it.
- 33:50Speaker 5: Should Emily felt him, m Should Emily have told him?
- 33:55Speaker 1: No?
- 33:56Speaker 4: I think that gets sticky with the whole penal and
- 33:59Speaker 4: lock situation.
- 34:00Speaker 5: But if he's doing if Richard's doing business with this
- 34:02Speaker 5: guy on like a regular.
- 34:03Speaker 3: Basis, do you think that she knew, Well, they know
- 34:06Speaker 3: each other from the club obviously, so it's a little
- 34:09Speaker 3: close to home, but yet I don't know, they're just
- 34:12Speaker 3: trying to I don't think she did anything wrong by
- 34:15Speaker 3: not telling him.
- 34:16Speaker 4: She also like I don't think they like kissed or anything,
- 34:18Speaker 4: so it could have been just like a dinner how
- 34:21Speaker 4: she would word it, even though it wasn't visidered a date.
- 34:25Speaker 1: But the Penal and Lot defense was lame because I
- 34:28Speaker 1: thought it was point taking, no, no, because she had
- 34:31Speaker 1: one dinner with that lawyer and there wasn't a separated
- 34:35Speaker 1: and they were separated, and there was not a second dinner,
- 34:40Speaker 1: and she broke down crying after after she okay, and
- 34:44Speaker 1: then and then Richard. But I thought Richard was seeing
- 34:48Speaker 1: Pendal and Lot every year, every year, once a year
- 34:52Speaker 1: to have lunch, and that is far worse in my opinion.
- 34:56Speaker 3: I agree with you. I agree with you guys.
- 34:58Speaker 1: So it wasn't a it wasn't an apt comparison, and
- 35:02Speaker 1: I thought, you go sorry, No, I thought I thought
- 35:06Speaker 1: Emily could have countered with something much stronger to illuminate
- 35:12Speaker 1: that fact. And she did not.
- 35:14Speaker 3: Such great points she could have. But I think she
- 35:17Speaker 3: she I think she knew like, oh this is I
- 35:21Speaker 3: want him to freak out, we're getting back together. But
- 35:25Speaker 3: I think Scott, you make a good point too, is
- 35:27Speaker 3: that Emily didn't do anything wrong by going on the
- 35:31Speaker 3: date they're separated, whereas Richard was betraying, not not physically.
- 35:36Speaker 3: He wasn't having an affair, but they were fully married
- 35:39Speaker 3: and he never said like I'm going to have lunch
- 35:41Speaker 3: with Penalin.
- 35:41Speaker 1: But it was having an emotional affair. Yeah, yeah, you
- 35:46Speaker 1: tall you once a year, you take a trip down
- 35:48Speaker 1: memory lane. You're having an emotional affair once a year.
- 35:50Speaker 4: And you have to lie because like, where was he
- 35:52Speaker 4: telling Emily that every time?
- 35:55Speaker 1: How many times did he lie to her every year?
- 35:58Speaker 3: Once the estalgic her? I don't think he was having
- 36:01Speaker 3: an emotional affair, but we do debate that. Yeah, it's fair.
- 36:06Speaker 1: Was it really explained to us what Penal and lot
- 36:11Speaker 1: it turned out to be and how she's still connected
- 36:13Speaker 1: in his life and maybe she's in the insurance business
- 36:16Speaker 1: or something, and it was required nothing like that was explained.
- 36:19Speaker 1: But it's a far more agree I mean, Emily didn't
- 36:23Speaker 1: do anything wrong, She just went on a date. She
- 36:26Speaker 1: did nothing wrong, and she suffered, and she suffered for it.
- 36:30Speaker 5: She showed her her pump rules of Emily though, because
- 36:33Speaker 5: she is dating within the pool. You know, like you
- 36:37Speaker 5: don't like and you're gonna even though you're separated, and
- 36:41Speaker 5: you you know, I understand they're separated, but like he
- 36:45Speaker 5: Simon is very much in Richard's pool, so right, so
- 36:48Speaker 5: it's kind of like, maybe give him the heads up.
- 36:53Speaker 3: I don't know, but who she supposed to meet, she
- 36:55Speaker 3: only knows who she knows from the country.
- 36:57Speaker 1: Club, because she wasn't trying to manipulate him. She told
- 37:01Speaker 1: she didn't tell him because she was really trying to
- 37:03Speaker 1: Maybe she's confused. She wants to break away, she thinks,
- 37:06Speaker 1: and then she realizes after going through that dinner that
- 37:08Speaker 1: it's she's her heart is with Richard and hers.
- 37:11Speaker 3: Although she seemed excited to see Simon at the car, but.
- 37:14Speaker 1: I thought she should look. I thought she showed a
- 37:16Speaker 1: great deal of strength going on that date and then
- 37:21Speaker 1: breaking down after the date was over. So it was
- 37:23Speaker 1: for me, it was just all strength, playing against strength
- 37:27Speaker 1: and trying to be strong and trying to move on.
- 37:29Speaker 1: And it was courageous. And I think what Richard did
- 37:31Speaker 1: was very cowardly. Having yes, I thought that whole thing was.
- 37:36Speaker 1: And I thought that line to her in the car
- 37:38Speaker 1: after he like weirdly like psychotically rams the back of
- 37:42Speaker 1: her car, What the hell was that?
- 37:46Speaker 5: Very psychotic?
- 37:47Speaker 1: But very psychotic, I mean it's like, you know, she
- 37:51Speaker 1: could have had whiplash and broken her neck or hurt
- 37:53Speaker 1: her neck. He he really hit it hard.
- 37:56Speaker 3: He couldn't take it.
- 37:57Speaker 1: It was like, wow, that was just way too much,
- 38:00Speaker 1: you cycle, he could have been arrested for attempted murder.
- 38:04Speaker 3: He was totally unhinged.
- 38:08Speaker 1: He whammed his own wife's car and then like like
- 38:11Speaker 1: starts yelling at her. Everybody knows you're supposed to get
- 38:15Speaker 1: out of the car after your foul a, And well
- 38:16Speaker 1: I was waiting for the man in the red coat.
- 38:19Speaker 1: He gotten out of the car. I mean, he was
- 38:20Speaker 1: just out of his.
- 38:23Speaker 3: Simon he's all, we don't need you, Simon.
- 38:25Speaker 1: No, you will not run into Simon's car. Run into Simon.
- 38:30Speaker 1: Don't run into your own wife. She's an elderly woman.
- 38:34Speaker 4: And I'm kill like not not Lisa or not buying
- 38:37Speaker 4: the car at the end, like I know, he's always.
- 38:39Speaker 3: Shouldn't put it.
- 38:40Speaker 1: I mean, she could have been if she was turned
- 38:41Speaker 1: facing the other way, she could have been bouncing her
- 38:44Speaker 1: head could have been bouncing around inside that dashboard like
- 38:47Speaker 1: a pinball machine.
- 38:48Speaker 4: So it is really quick. I do want to say
- 38:51Speaker 4: Scott brought something up that was really interesting. That made
- 38:53Speaker 4: me think, like this pedaling lot thing, like we brought
- 38:56Speaker 4: a pedal a lot more than like I know a lot,
- 39:00Speaker 4: and there's barely any information that we've gotten. Like I mean,
- 39:03Speaker 4: maybe the characters know and the audience doesn't, but like
- 39:06Speaker 4: with the amount of times we talk about her, we
- 39:08Speaker 4: really don't know exactly what happened.
- 39:10Speaker 3: And she's in the show one time, but she's one
- 39:13Speaker 3: of the most talked about characters and she only makes
- 39:16Speaker 3: one appearance. It's like, yeah, but I mean it was
- 39:21Speaker 3: what he did was brutal.
- 39:24Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't like Scott, so we just don't know
- 39:26Speaker 4: the details.
- 39:28Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I obviously they had a
- 39:31Speaker 1: realist of it.
- 39:33Speaker 4: Yeah, but we just don't know.
- 39:35Speaker 3: That's interesting. That really makes me think because each of us,
- 39:39Speaker 3: because we know so little Tara, like you're saying, we
- 39:43Speaker 3: each take away from it what our perspective is. So
- 39:47Speaker 3: that's why maybe we're having this sort of like little
- 39:49Speaker 3: discussion about it, because like, I think, it's perfect perfectly
- 39:53Speaker 3: harmless what he did with Penal and law.
- 39:56Speaker 1: I get it, relationship, it's really damaging. You know, we're
- 40:00Speaker 1: talking about Panna Lot. She's not she's you know, is
- 40:03Speaker 1: that Richard's Camilla Parker bowls.
- 40:06Speaker 4: Well, I like you.
- 40:09Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't think so. But what I
- 40:12Speaker 3: like what you're saying is that you're taking it that
- 40:15Speaker 3: way where I'm like, this is his old friend from college,
- 40:18Speaker 3: his girlfriend and they meet once a year. What I
- 40:20Speaker 3: think is he should have told Emily, this is what
- 40:22Speaker 3: you like Christopher too, because I have terrible taste.
- 40:26Speaker 9: I saw the poop emojis. There's so many, everyone's like
- 40:38Speaker 9: my favorite, like, maybe I also have poop tastes.
- 40:43Speaker 3: I think I also have poop taste.
- 40:46Speaker 1: Fans are bringing the hate man and then they bring
- 40:48Speaker 1: the poop, right, they'll fling pop at you.
- 40:51Speaker 3: Speaking of the only okay this is I have to
- 40:56Speaker 3: bring it upcause it made me cringe so hard, and
- 40:59Speaker 3: I don't okay. I want to see what you guys think,
- 41:02Speaker 3: because I actually think they should have removed this joke
- 41:05Speaker 3: from the show, which I get that they can't. But
- 41:09Speaker 3: so we go back to the inn and Michelle's kind
- 41:12Speaker 3: of like the bed was must and someone's you know,
- 41:15Speaker 3: eating the toblerone and maybe it's so and so they're
- 41:18Speaker 3: having an affair and somebody goes, maybe it was a
- 41:20Speaker 3: ghost and then there is a Patrick swayzey joke that
- 41:24Speaker 3: literally like broke my heart because they're like Patrick Swayze
- 41:28Speaker 3: trying to find his career. And I was like, oh oh,
- 41:32Speaker 3: and I get it. At the time when they wrote it,
- 41:34Speaker 3: it was funny, but for me, it's like, oh my god,
- 41:38Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll talk about it in pop culture, but
- 41:40Speaker 3: it was like, oh, Patrick's sweezy.
- 41:42Speaker 1: Like I really think the Palladinos are not shy about,
- 41:51Speaker 1: you know, revealing who they find ridiculous in pop culture.
- 41:56Speaker 1: They've never been shy about it. They always reveal, you know,
- 42:00Speaker 1: they're always mocking somebody, right, and if we I'm sure
- 42:05Speaker 1: the fans know better than we do. They make a
- 42:08Speaker 1: list and let us know which fan which celebrities get
- 42:11Speaker 1: trashed that don't quite cut it with the Palladinos, you
- 42:16Speaker 1: know what I mean. So they're just sort of always
- 42:17Speaker 1: borrowing from pop culture and right, right, right.
- 42:20Speaker 3: And I get it was sort of a funny, amusing
- 42:22Speaker 3: joke at the time, but now it's.
- 42:23Speaker 1: Like in hindsight, you know, yeah, right, it does obviously what.
- 42:27Speaker 3: Happened, and he did get his career and he started
- 42:30Speaker 3: working again. It's just like and he's so I love
- 42:32Speaker 3: him so much and like his movies are so iconic,
- 42:35Speaker 3: and I got.
- 42:37Speaker 1: To work with him and he's the loveliest, the loveliest
- 42:40Speaker 1: guy you ever want to be around.
- 42:42Speaker 3: What did you work with him on?
- 42:44Speaker 1: A movie with Martha Coolidge, film called Three Wishes.
- 42:48Speaker 3: Yeah. So it's just like for me that joke, I
- 42:50Speaker 3: was like, oh and.
- 42:51Speaker 1: He was he was everything and more.
- 42:56Speaker 4: I mean this.
- 42:57Speaker 1: You know, stars don't have lunch with little pity actors
- 43:00Speaker 1: that just got a little bit of a break. They
- 43:02Speaker 1: don't sit down and have lunch with them. He did,
- 43:05Speaker 1: and he gave me all kinds of advice and he
- 43:07Speaker 1: was always very warm and friendly and just a very
- 43:11Speaker 1: loving soul. Yeah, and it was it was just like, gosh, man, yeah,
- 43:17Speaker 1: that was that was painful. I was going to bring
- 43:19Speaker 1: that up to It was.
- 43:21Speaker 3: A painful joke, and I get it. It's twenty years
- 43:23Speaker 3: and I'm looking at it with a different perspective.
- 43:26Speaker 1: It was like, oh then, and you know, it reminds
- 43:29Speaker 1: me of uh, you know, Treat Williams just passed. It's
- 43:32Speaker 1: just such a shocking tragic.
- 43:37Speaker 3: For me, Like, I don't know, Danielle and tar If,
- 43:39Speaker 3: you guys watched Everwood, But like I love Treat Williams,
- 43:42Speaker 3: He's oh Everwood. You guys have to watch everyone.
- 43:45Speaker 1: It's just such a such a top notch talent.
- 43:48Speaker 3: That made me so sad.
- 43:49Speaker 1: That's just that's the thing about him. He was one
- 43:51Speaker 1: of these guys that didn't seek publicity and he wasn't
- 43:54Speaker 1: all into the glitz of it. He lived in Vermont,
- 43:57Speaker 1: and he had his property, and he had his acres,
- 43:59Speaker 1: and he had his family and and he cared about
- 44:01Speaker 1: the work all the time. But he cares about the
- 44:04Speaker 1: work so deeply. He wants to He wants everybody to
- 44:07Speaker 1: do really deep and great work. And that's all he
- 44:10Speaker 1: cared about.
- 44:10Speaker 3: He was a great And I'm glad you mentioned that
- 44:12Speaker 3: because I've literally been thinking about it and I don't
- 44:15Speaker 3: know him at all. A couple times I don't know
- 44:18Speaker 3: him at all, and it like really bummed me out,
- 44:21Speaker 3: Like that was so tragic. It's so tragic.
- 44:25Speaker 1: Anyway, I wonder if he did anything to get on
- 44:27Speaker 1: the Palladino's hit list, you know, hope not, because I mean,
- 44:32Speaker 1: we're talking about two gems.
- 44:35Speaker 3: And I think at the time, I think the Patrick
- 44:37Speaker 3: Swayzey joke was probably funny but now it's just like okay.
- 44:46Speaker 3: So we go back and now Laura lies on the
- 44:49Speaker 3: phone with Rory and she does have a funny line
- 44:52Speaker 3: like there's maybe a ghost. Well that's better than rats.
- 44:54Speaker 3: And then Rory says I might have a thing on Friday,
- 44:58Speaker 3: and it's just like, oh, I hope you have a thing,
- 45:01Speaker 3: but you're not gonna have a thing, and oh.
- 45:03Speaker 5: No, you definitely don't have a thing.
- 45:06Speaker 1: You don't have a thing.
- 45:09Speaker 3: So anyway, then we go to band practice and did
- 45:13Speaker 3: you guys know immediately that knock was missus Kim. I'm like,
- 45:16Speaker 3: that's a missus Kim. Oh you didn't, Scott, Oh my god,
- 45:20Speaker 3: that was such a Misski. Okay, so you guys talk
- 45:24Speaker 3: about that like the band and the lunar New Year,
- 45:27Speaker 3: and she's suddenly Zach's invited, the whole bands invited, Like
- 45:30Speaker 3: what are you What were you thinking?
- 45:32Speaker 4: Well?
- 45:32Speaker 5: I thought it was pretty ballsy of Lane to be like, well,
- 45:36Speaker 5: you know, you have to invite these guys. You know,
- 45:39Speaker 5: Like I kind of love that she did that, you know,
- 45:42Speaker 5: because you know, missus Kim didn't want them there. But
- 45:45Speaker 5: she's like, if you're gonna get me, you're gonna get
- 45:47Speaker 5: these guys, and I was like, you know what, good
- 45:50Speaker 5: job Lane, I'm I'm standing up to her mom.
- 45:54Speaker 1: Yep, yeah yeah, gaining strength and winning.
- 45:59Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 46:00Speaker 1: I really liked seeing it. It's a nice progression for
- 46:03Speaker 1: her character.
- 46:05Speaker 3: And I love and Scott, you tell me this is
- 46:07Speaker 3: like a thing. I assume it is, like it breaks
- 46:09Speaker 3: the tension because they're having this heated thing and then
- 46:12Speaker 3: she comes in, we're all invited to a party.
- 46:18Speaker 5: It's as if they couldn't hear.
- 46:21Speaker 3: And then we immediately go to the party, so we
- 46:23Speaker 3: didn't go anywhere else. We like fast forward immediately and
- 46:26Speaker 3: we're at the party, and literally I thought the front
- 46:29Speaker 3: porch scene was hilarious. Gil knocking and Zach's hiding behind
- 46:33Speaker 3: and like the whole thing.
- 46:36Speaker 5: I mean, we understand why missus Kim just gave him
- 46:40Speaker 5: a mouthful episode.
- 46:43Speaker 3: Happy New Year, I guess. So then, I mean, this
- 46:50Speaker 3: show is jam packed, like we've still got a long
- 46:53Speaker 3: way to go. So Laura's looking all jumps into Jackson
- 46:56Speaker 3: and she realizes what like he's saying, Suki's working all
- 47:00Speaker 3: these late nights, and she's just like.
- 47:04Speaker 5: Right, So I thought it was gonna be something worse though,
- 47:07Speaker 5: I will say.
- 47:08Speaker 3: I was like, oh no, what is what?
- 47:10Speaker 5: Like, why is Suki lying to Jackson? Why is everybody
- 47:13Speaker 5: lying to each other?
- 47:17Speaker 1: With Michelle?
- 47:19Speaker 3: Okay, there is a lot of lying in Gilmour. Girl's
- 47:21Speaker 3: good point. They lie a lot this season.
- 47:27Speaker 1: Or she's having an affair with Sean Gunn.
- 47:30Speaker 5: I didn't think it was like a fair satisfied. I
- 47:32Speaker 5: thought she was like, I don't know. I thought it
- 47:34Speaker 5: was something she was just wanting to escape her life,
- 47:37Speaker 5: which I guess she was, but like I thought it
- 47:39Speaker 5: was gonna be more drastic than just wanting to watch
- 47:42Speaker 5: her TV show with chocolate?
- 47:44Speaker 3: Can we also talk about so we go back to there.
- 47:46Speaker 1: She didn't put the chocolate down on the bed, though,
- 47:49Speaker 1: Oh I do.
- 47:49Speaker 3: That was toon, by the way, the fact that she
- 47:54Speaker 3: actually was eating the tobolone. I zoomed in and was like, oh, yeah.
- 47:58Speaker 1: She just dropped just dropped it speaking of it like
- 48:01Speaker 1: that's going to cause us, that's gonna they're gonna have
- 48:03Speaker 1: to wash that.
- 48:05Speaker 3: It's true, it's not fair for the guest to crawl
- 48:07Speaker 3: into that. The Lunar Noon Year party food looked amazing.
- 48:12Speaker 3: I don't know if I was starving when I watched this.
- 48:14Speaker 3: I was just like, you know, they're like, it's slimy food.
- 48:17Speaker 1: It goes oh god, the minute they started saying slimy
- 48:19Speaker 1: and it goes down real easy, and then it comes
- 48:21Speaker 1: out the other round. I was like, you know what,
- 48:23Speaker 1: I don't think I lost. I see that's the guy
- 48:26Speaker 1: at the dinner table that I shush. It's like, don't
- 48:30Speaker 1: talk that way.
- 48:31Speaker 3: I wanted to eat everything.
- 48:32Speaker 1: We don't want to talk about bowel movements while we're eating.
- 48:35Speaker 3: I can talk about I don't mind it. I don't
- 48:38Speaker 3: mind it.
- 48:38Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, no no, you talk about that.
- 48:41Speaker 1: It's a dinner table sometimes, Oh Amy, I'm sorry.
- 48:45Speaker 3: Sometimes it's funny.
- 48:46Speaker 1: You know.
- 48:46Speaker 3: I think diarrhea is so funny.
- 48:50Speaker 1: At the dinner table.
- 48:52Speaker 3: Not usually at the dinner table, but not usually.
- 48:54Speaker 1: It's just a couple of times a week.
- 48:58Speaker 3: It's general.
- 49:00Speaker 1: It actually goes the other way, it goes out.
- 49:02Speaker 3: I can have a conversation like, if you guys need
- 49:04Speaker 3: to talk about diaria, totally call me poop Emoji's okay.
- 49:09Speaker 3: So I thought that kid was hysterical. That was like
- 49:16Speaker 3: the dude on like that little guy was so good.
- 49:21Speaker 1: And then Brian ileitimate child.
- 49:25Speaker 3: Yeah, Brian flirting with Keon. I thought was like, this
- 49:29Speaker 3: is so great. The whole thing was great. That was cute.
- 49:32Speaker 5: I did like that Brian and Keon were like, you know,
- 49:35Speaker 5: being a flirty me too.
- 49:38Speaker 3: And then he's dancing later in the scene when they
- 49:40Speaker 3: come back and he's dancing as they're all having the
- 49:42Speaker 3: jam session, and he's just totally into it. I think
- 49:44Speaker 3: they're having a great time. So we go back to
- 49:48Speaker 3: the bar and now we're Logan and Morior are back
- 49:51Speaker 3: at the bar again. They've met up again, and he
- 49:55Speaker 3: just ooh, he's just like, this has been fun. Head
- 49:59Speaker 3: to New York, have a good weekend. Don't be stranger.
- 50:01Speaker 5: Don't be a stranger.
- 50:03Speaker 1: Was just the.
- 50:06Speaker 5: Right, Like that's when you're just like.
- 50:11Speaker 4: Like I felt so uncomfortable for her, so she is,
- 50:20Speaker 4: But that's what that's what I was saying. I enjoyed
- 50:22Speaker 4: it because like in her head, she's like, I have
- 50:24Speaker 4: a date tonight, I'm going to be going to this party.
- 50:26Speaker 4: But it's like you always get your way, Rory, you know.
- 50:28Speaker 3: Right right, Yeah, Okay, so we've kind of talked about it.
- 50:35Speaker 3: I'll move a little quicker that Suki's at the in
- 50:38Speaker 3: and lor Lion Suki have the talk about what she's doing,
- 50:42Speaker 3: and Laurai gets in bed with her and they watch
- 50:44Speaker 3: their show. So then my favorite the valet at the event,
- 50:49Speaker 3: which we've kind of started to touch on. We are
- 50:52Speaker 3: at the event. Simon comes up to the car and
- 50:56Speaker 3: he's all kinds of charming and she's kind of into.
- 51:00Speaker 1: It, and then just bam, just the weirdest thing. I mean,
- 51:06Speaker 1: he really rocked the back of that car. I was
- 51:10Speaker 1: so strange. I said to myself, is this Gilmore girls?
- 51:15Speaker 4: Is this really?
- 51:18Speaker 3: He's unhinged. He can't take it. He's done, he wants
- 51:21Speaker 3: her back, he loves her. We're all happy about it.
- 51:23Speaker 1: So he rams his wife's car.
- 51:26Speaker 3: It was a strange mood.
- 51:27Speaker 1: In front of their all of those people. I know
- 51:31Speaker 1: he couldn't he could have been arrested.
- 51:34Speaker 5: If Simon wasn't there, he wouldn't have rammed the car.
- 51:37Speaker 1: I understood, But why is he ramming her car?
- 51:43Speaker 3: Had to break them up, he had to stop it.
- 51:45Speaker 1: So he tries to kill his own wife.
- 51:50Speaker 5: It's bad.
- 51:52Speaker 1: That was literally there were two of the most bizarre
- 51:56Speaker 1: moments in Gilmore history.
- 52:00Speaker 6: In one episode, my wife away from this Van's ram
- 52:06Speaker 6: into her car, her.
- 52:07Speaker 3: Car, Guys, it is so funny when she gets in
- 52:11Speaker 3: the car and he goes, do you need to go
- 52:13Speaker 3: to the hospital, and she's like, who needs a trip
- 52:15Speaker 3: to the hospital.
- 52:19Speaker 1: He needed he needed a trip to the jail. Cell.
- 52:22Speaker 1: He needed a trip to jail, and he needed a
- 52:24Speaker 1: trip in front of a judge, just straighten his you
- 52:27Speaker 1: know what.
- 52:29Speaker 3: I know you dated him, and she's like, nothing happened.
- 52:31Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden you're like, oh, they're
- 52:34Speaker 3: in love again. It's all good. This craziness has just
- 52:39Speaker 3: brought us back.
- 52:40Speaker 5: They're in love again. But it was also like, is
- 52:42Speaker 5: this five steps backwards? Oh? No, like you know, like
- 52:44Speaker 5: you get nervous.
- 52:47Speaker 1: Guys, how would you feel if you're estranged husband rammed
- 52:54Speaker 1: the back of your car.
- 52:56Speaker 3: Possibly, I'm gonna go on a live here and say possibly.
- 52:59Speaker 3: All like you would.
- 53:04Speaker 5: Love me so much.
- 53:05Speaker 1: It was like the slowed up your motion.
- 53:11Speaker 3: It was crazy, I admit it, But it was like
- 53:13Speaker 3: the grand gesture. It was like so awesome.
- 53:17Speaker 1: Wow.
- 53:18Speaker 4: I think after they would laugh, like, how we're laughing now?
- 53:21Speaker 4: I would laugh after the fact.
- 53:23Speaker 5: Oh, it's really bad. I'd rather keep my car intact.
- 53:27Speaker 1: It's really bad.
- 53:28Speaker 4: It is to take care of the car.
- 53:31Speaker 5: It is bad for TV.
- 53:33Speaker 1: Purposes, to the to the the woman that man.
- 53:40Speaker 3: I get that, it's crazy, but I kind of love it.
- 53:42Speaker 5: I feel you in that, Skuy, I get it.
- 53:44Speaker 1: I have such a problem with that. So I know
- 53:47Speaker 1: it's just a TV show and you know and all that,
- 53:49Speaker 1: but geez, man, he's just like he came flying in
- 53:52Speaker 1: and it was.
- 53:53Speaker 3: Nuts, but it was awesome. He's like, no, I am not,
- 53:57Speaker 3: this is not happening. Get out of here.
- 53:59Speaker 1: Sign and he's, man, you know, my next lifetime. I
- 54:02Speaker 1: want to grow up in northern California too, because then
- 54:05Speaker 1: I can say things. It was nuts, but that was awesome.
- 54:10Speaker 3: We're crazy af here and I love no, Simon, No,
- 54:14Speaker 3: you will not. She is my wife. You will not.
- 54:17Speaker 3: And Emily wanted him back, so she was like stoked.
- 54:20Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's all in the eye of the beholder, right.
- 54:23Speaker 3: She was like she got right in the car with
- 54:25Speaker 3: him and was totally happy, like this worked out.
- 54:29Speaker 1: Simon should have knocked him out, put it, put him down, man,
- 54:33Speaker 1: And he just tried to kill your wife with your car.
- 54:37Speaker 3: If they went to fisticuts, I'm.
- 54:42Speaker 1: Straight and knock your bow tie off.
- 54:44Speaker 3: You so we go back to this episode is like
- 54:49Speaker 3: just hacked because we then we go back to missus Kins.
- 54:52Speaker 3: I mean, we still haven't even gotten to the most
- 54:54Speaker 3: insane scene of all time. So we go back to
- 54:58Speaker 3: missus Kins and this is where like Lane stands up
- 55:02Speaker 3: to her mom and then what Scott talked about Sebastian. Oh, yeah,
- 55:07Speaker 3: like you know, Zach and missus Kim bond over so
- 55:11Speaker 3: that whole thing's happening.
- 55:13Speaker 5: They both like her with her glasses totally.
- 55:16Speaker 3: Now they kind of bonding.
- 55:18Speaker 1: Okay, So missus Kim bonding with Zach was a lot
- 55:22Speaker 1: like Emily bonding with Luke in the hospital, wasn't it.
- 55:27Speaker 4: Yes?
- 55:29Speaker 1: So many that feels like an ago, So many similarities
- 55:33Speaker 1: running through this show.
- 55:35Speaker 5: So then Richard and Emily get it did feel a
- 55:37Speaker 5: little bit of a repeat of the Davidowski storyline. I'm
- 55:40Speaker 5: not gonna lie, like I do have to point that out,
- 55:43Speaker 5: you know, Like there, I'm like, oh, they're just trying
- 55:45Speaker 5: to revive Dave's character in a different way.
- 55:48Speaker 1: But to David galski ingratiation to missus Kim was brilliant.
- 55:55Speaker 1: The little speech he had and his little strategy was
- 55:58Speaker 1: just absolute brilliance. That's why people love him because he
- 56:01Speaker 1: was just smarter than everybody, you know.
- 56:05Speaker 3: So Okay, then we get to the scene where Emily
- 56:09Speaker 3: and Richard come home you know, from and he's like,
- 56:12Speaker 3: you're feeling all right, I don't want to go to
- 56:14Speaker 3: the pole pool house, and then she says come home,
- 56:17Speaker 3: and it's like all is right in the world.
- 56:19Speaker 5: Yeah, she surrendered, you know what I mean. She she
- 56:25Speaker 5: surrendered in the sense of of, you know, they've been
- 56:28Speaker 5: both dancing around what's really going on? And she finally
- 56:33Speaker 5: was like, we gotta we gotta put this to rest,
- 56:36Speaker 5: like just come home. Yeah, we know we want to
- 56:39Speaker 5: be back together.
- 56:39Speaker 1: Just yeah, I think she did it just out of,
- 56:42Speaker 1: you know, a need to to sort of feel safe
- 56:47Speaker 1: with this crazy man who just ran her in his car.
- 56:50Speaker 1: She was home to calm him down so he doesn't
- 56:53Speaker 1: like continue to She like.
- 56:56Speaker 3: Me, was stoked about kidding, you know, I'm just kidding,
- 56:58Speaker 3: I know, but she was happy about the rear end
- 57:00Speaker 3: because she she wants to be back together. She's known it.
- 57:04Speaker 3: She's known it since she cried after Simon McLean. Okay,
- 57:08Speaker 3: then it's Friday night dinner, but you're ending a lot more.
- 57:21Speaker 1: Stop it stop stop at California Friday night dinner and Rory.
- 57:27Speaker 3: Is there because her thing wasn't a thing. And did
- 57:29Speaker 3: you notice Laura I said, is it Marty?
- 57:33Speaker 4: Hm hmm. Yeah, Well she didn't really know Logan besides
- 57:39Speaker 4: that she doesn't.
- 57:40Speaker 3: Write, she doesn't know him at all. But I like
- 57:42Speaker 3: that she called out Marty. So then they see through
- 57:46Speaker 3: the window the big you know, there's Richard and Emily,
- 57:50Speaker 3: and then there's the makeout. Oh my god, my parents
- 57:53Speaker 3: are having an affair. Little I love Larelaes reaction is
- 58:00Speaker 3: not as like, she's not as sold, but Rory, She's
- 58:05Speaker 3: all I married a wonderful man. Yes you did like
- 58:08Speaker 3: Rory stoked.
- 58:11Speaker 4: Yeah. I think she's she loves her grandparents together, like
- 58:14Speaker 4: she really loves them, so I think for her it
- 58:16Speaker 4: was important they get back together.
- 58:18Speaker 3: I'm stoked.
- 58:24Speaker 1: That was actually really funny when when she was pulling
- 58:27Speaker 1: Laurel up to the bedroom and Laurel, I don't want
- 58:32Speaker 1: to go, why what's up there? What are we doing?
- 58:34Speaker 1: What's happening?
- 58:36Speaker 3: Really kind of learned this is important. We learned that
- 58:38Speaker 3: Laura is the maid of honor and Rory's going to
- 58:40Speaker 3: be the best man, so we learned that there's the
- 58:42Speaker 3: vow renewal coming, which all you know, it becomes important. Okay,
- 58:47Speaker 3: So Tara, what were we going to say?
- 58:49Speaker 4: Well, one of the lines that's like so big it's
- 58:51Speaker 4: always like a gift and stuff online is oh my god,
- 58:54Speaker 4: it's Natalie Wood miss Seline's line. It's always everywhere, and
- 58:58Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, this is the episode,
- 59:01Speaker 4: so i'out where it came in. But yeah, I don't
- 59:03Speaker 4: know if you guys knew that, but that's usually like
- 59:05Speaker 4: a big clip everywhere.
- 59:07Speaker 5: This scene definitely annoyed me.
- 59:09Speaker 3: Talk about what you don't like? You don't like Selene
- 59:12Speaker 3: miss Selene, No, not Selene.
- 59:14Speaker 5: It's you know, Loralai trying on the dresses and Emily,
- 59:21Speaker 5: you know.
- 59:22Speaker 3: And Laura's holding up the dress, yeah.
- 59:24Speaker 5: Sorry, holding up the dresses and like you know, you know,
- 59:27Speaker 5: she's she's clearly looking at herself in the mirror, being
- 59:30Speaker 5: like I want to be a bride, and I think
- 59:32Speaker 5: it's with Luke, you know, like you know that it's
- 59:34Speaker 5: processing in her head, and it's like for this entire
- 59:38Speaker 5: show so far, Emily has just always been like, well,
- 59:41Speaker 5: why don't you tell me about your relationship, Like why
- 59:43Speaker 5: don't you tell me about you know, like this and
- 59:45Speaker 5: that I want to be included, you know, like all
- 59:47Speaker 5: that kind of stuff. And this is the moment that
- 59:49Speaker 5: Emily had to finally be there for her daughter, you know,
- 59:55Speaker 5: like to be like Lorla, you're trying on dresses, like
- 59:59Speaker 5: what's that You're looking at dresses? Like what's that about?
- 1:00:02Speaker 3: You know, like just to like how it's especially painful
- 1:00:07Speaker 3: because you see how happy Lorla was when Emily says
- 1:00:11Speaker 3: to miss Selene, oh no, my daughter. She opens an
- 1:00:14Speaker 3: inn and she's she's running out of business, and you
- 1:00:18Speaker 3: can tell that Emily's so proud, and Lorala's face just
- 1:00:21Speaker 3: lights up. She's so stoked that her mom is finally
- 1:00:24Speaker 3: proud of her that it's just a gut punch what comes.
- 1:00:29Speaker 5: Yeah, And Emily's just totally totally dropped, like dropping the
- 1:00:34Speaker 5: ball here, like she she at some point, your daughter
- 1:00:38Speaker 5: is not like sixteen years old anymore when all that crazy,
- 1:00:42Speaker 5: you know, she got pregnant, all that, all that happened.
- 1:00:45Speaker 5: She's a grown adult. She can make her own decisions
- 1:00:48Speaker 5: at this point, Like at this point, as a mom,
- 1:00:51Speaker 5: like you just need to support your daughter's happiness. And
- 1:00:55Speaker 5: she can't do that, and that really really like stung me.
- 1:01:00Speaker 5: In this episode, I'm like, like, why is it Emily
- 1:01:03Speaker 5: saying like, Lorla, what do you like? You know, maybe
- 1:01:06Speaker 5: you'll get married, you know, like what kind of dress
- 1:01:08Speaker 5: do you want? Like she just totally missed that, And.
- 1:01:13Speaker 3: So I have a different theory. Okay, I think she
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: didn't miss it. No, I think I think she saw
- 1:01:22Speaker 3: it and saw Lorelai holding up the dress and you
- 1:01:25Speaker 3: see that Laura's like open to the idea of I
- 1:01:28Speaker 3: want to get married. I want this, and Emily is
- 1:01:32Speaker 3: one of two things, not having it with Luke or
- 1:01:37Speaker 3: thinks that Luke will never do it, and she wants
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: her daughter to have her dreams. So about him trying
- 1:01:43Speaker 3: to look at it from like oh no, not all.
- 1:01:47Speaker 5: I literally was like she Lorla, she sees that Lorelai
- 1:01:52Speaker 5: will get married to Luke, like she sees it, and
- 1:01:55Speaker 5: she sees that her her daughter has a desire to
- 1:01:57Speaker 5: get married and it's like going to be with Luke
- 1:02:01Speaker 5: and she's like no, no, no, no, no, this is
- 1:02:04Speaker 5: not happening.
- 1:02:05Speaker 3: Scott, what do you.
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: Think I agree with everything Danielle said. I know, I
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: don't know what else to.
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: Say, is there any Okay, all right, let's go in order,
- 1:02:18Speaker 3: and then we're going to debate this because it's just
- 1:02:20Speaker 3: so gnarly. So Luke's in bed. We learned that they
- 1:02:25Speaker 3: went to Al's Pancake World, and it's disgusting. They're never
- 1:02:28Speaker 3: going there again. Luke doesn't really want to go to
- 1:02:30Speaker 3: the vow renewal. She convinces him, and then we learned
- 1:02:32Speaker 3: he got her the TV and it's just like, yeah, amazing, amazing, amazing.
- 1:02:37Speaker 3: Right then the knock on Christopher's door, which at first,
- 1:02:41Speaker 3: like to the casual viewer, you're like, don't even realize
- 1:02:44Speaker 3: it's Christopher, Right, You're sort of like, wait, where are we?
- 1:02:47Speaker 3: Suddenly we're at this apartment and there's just seen him
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: all episode either, so right, and in walks Emily, and
- 1:02:55Speaker 3: it literally was so shocking. It was like, oh, sh bleep.
- 1:03:06Speaker 3: She just comes in, tells him what's up, and literally
- 1:03:11Speaker 3: sabotages her daughter's relationship and basically says to Christopher, you
- 1:03:15Speaker 3: need this is your time, you love her, you need
- 1:03:18Speaker 3: to do it. Drops the mic, which is the invite,
- 1:03:21Speaker 3: and I.
- 1:03:21Speaker 5: Just was like the invites the worst part two because
- 1:03:24Speaker 5: it's like, here's the carrot to lead you back to
- 1:03:28Speaker 5: ruining lorealized relationship with Luke.
- 1:03:30Speaker 4: Right, if you show up, here's the time and place
- 1:03:33Speaker 4: to do it.
- 1:03:34Speaker 3: Boom go and she rips on Luke and calls him
- 1:03:37Speaker 3: a divorce say like to the guy who's left.
- 1:03:41Speaker 4: No, like, it's just like, oh, So, here's here's what
- 1:03:46Speaker 4: I say, Emily bad, like, what are you doing?
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say. Here's what I'll say about this scene.
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: Totally unnecessary. You did not need this scene. It did
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: nothing further to deepen the characters or improve the storytelling,
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: because Christopher could have just showed up, shown sorry, shown
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: up to the event, and then all of those questions
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: would be hanging in the air and all of that
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: drama would be born out what is he doing here?
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: What did you do? And then Loral I fans out
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: Emily that scene did not need to be filmed.
- 1:04:38Speaker 3: So I wanted to ask you. So you're saying, I
- 1:04:41Speaker 3: thought it hurt.
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: The episode, and I thought it really hurt Emily's character,
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: and I thought it made him look even weaker than
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: he could possibly look.
- 1:04:50Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm assuming that it showed.
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: A grandmother referring to her granddaughter as this thing it
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: was a completely offensive I didn't hear that part she
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: referred to that little girl as this thing.
- 1:05:07Speaker 4: Yeah, I missed that.
- 1:05:09Speaker 3: Scott Scott one.
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: Question horrifying say that it portrayed Emily as a monster
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: a conns.
- 1:05:18Speaker 3: But here's my question for you. So say they did
- 1:05:20Speaker 3: not show that scene, but are you saying it still happened?
- 1:05:24Speaker 3: So my thing is, say they didn't show it, and
- 1:05:26Speaker 3: then Christopher shows up, just shows up. But did Emily
- 1:05:30Speaker 3: go there in the audience?
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: It's like, wow, what is he doing here? How did
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: he get didn't see that coming?
- 1:05:36Speaker 3: But in your mind this scene did take place, We
- 1:05:39Speaker 3: just didn't see it, or did Emily never do this? Okay, okay,
- 1:05:43Speaker 3: I just wanted to like clarify so I understood. Tell
- 1:05:46Speaker 3: me when she says the thing and she said, is
- 1:05:49Speaker 3: this the child?
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: That scene was soap opera quality.
- 1:05:53Speaker 5: Yeah, that.
- 1:05:59Speaker 3: Is this the child? And is the mother still gone?
- 1:06:02Speaker 3: I never heard her say thing.
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: Oh I thought she said this thing.
- 1:06:05Speaker 3: Can someone pull up the script because I never saw
- 1:06:07Speaker 3: it her safe thing.
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: Whenever she said the way she referred to this child
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: was haineous.
- 1:06:13Speaker 3: She says, this is the child.
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: It was dismissive and it was just awful.
- 1:06:18Speaker 3: Well, the whole scene is heinous. She's who does that?
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: It's like I want to you know, right when you're
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: rehabilitating this relationship between Richard and Emily and you've got
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: these people looking good, you make her do something like that.
- 1:06:32Speaker 3: It's the lowest low she's ever done. Yeah, it was awful,
- 1:06:36Speaker 3: But I it was totally intentional. They knew they were
- 1:06:39Speaker 3: doing it for a reason. So we're looking at this.
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: So this is the child this, so this is the child,
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: This is the child. Basically, this is the child.
- 1:06:50Speaker 3: So this child says, is the mother still gone? You know, look,
- 1:06:54Speaker 3: I think it's hideous. I don't think it's I think
- 1:06:57Speaker 3: it's even too low for Emily.
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: It's so that was the ugliest scene I've ever ever
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: witnessed in this whole.
- 1:07:07Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, rough, Yeah, I think you're right.
- 1:07:10Speaker 5: The actually we really saw Richard and Emily be ugly
- 1:07:15Speaker 5: in this episode.
- 1:07:17Speaker 4: Really, I do agree with Scott, like maybe if we
- 1:07:22Speaker 4: just skip this and and Christopher showed up, like it
- 1:07:25Speaker 4: would be a different like shock. But I think for
- 1:07:29Speaker 4: this it was more of how cruel Emily is. I
- 1:07:33Speaker 4: think that's what it was, because every time Emily fixes
- 1:07:36Speaker 4: something with Lorelei. She takes five steps backwards, like they're fine,
- 1:07:42Speaker 4: She's going to be the maid of honor. Like that's
- 1:07:44Speaker 4: the thing is, like, she's going to be the maid
- 1:07:45Speaker 4: of honor. What are you doing? Why are you messing
- 1:07:48Speaker 4: it up?
- 1:07:48Speaker 5: You know?
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: I think I think when characters take that huge a
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: leap down the ladder, as it were, it's like, maybe
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: you take them down one wrung, you don't take them
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: down ten.
- 1:08:06Speaker 3: And they took her down one hundred.
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: I mean, you got to keep keep us believing in
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: the humanity of a character, right, and people make mistakes
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: and that's the soul of drama. But I mean when
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: it's when it I mean, that was just evil. Yeah,
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: it was.
- 1:08:26Speaker 4: It was.
- 1:08:26Speaker 3: It was. It was evil. I think you're right, Scott,
- 1:08:29Speaker 3: it was really and to me, it was almost too
- 1:08:32Speaker 3: evil for Emily. It was real.
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: It was out of character. I felt it was just yeah,
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: or she does it in a different way, and it's
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: it's just the lowest.
- 1:08:41Speaker 3: It's in character.
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: It was also spelled out and it was so much
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: exposition and explaining and this is how I feel and
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: these are my feelings about it, and it's oh god, well.
- 1:08:52Speaker 3: The inappropriateness of just showing up at Christopher's is kind
- 1:08:55Speaker 3: of hardcore, Like, what what mom is doing that?
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: I wish I hadn't seen that.
- 1:09:01Speaker 3: You get why Loralai cannot stand them? Yeah? Yeah, Like
- 1:09:06Speaker 3: this is why I think for us watching we see
- 1:09:11Speaker 3: so many redeeming qualities in Emily and Richard especially.
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: I don't I don't even know if it's I don't
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: even know if it's about that. For me, it's it
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: takes me completely out of the the piece. So because
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: I don't believe it, it's like it's not believable that
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: somebody is going to do that in that way.
- 1:09:32Speaker 3: I believe it.
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: It took me out of the character. It took me
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: out of the show. And this is just a bridge
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: to tell me.
- 1:09:40Speaker 3: I think it's what Lorala has been telling us for
- 1:09:42Speaker 3: all these years. Yeah, they are terrible, and we're always
- 1:09:45Speaker 3: kind of like, are they that terrible? And you've even
- 1:09:47Speaker 3: defended them, like we've all defended them. And I think
- 1:09:51Speaker 3: that whether it was for whatever reason, writers, creators, they
- 1:09:57Speaker 3: are showing us why Loralai has been repeatedly always dogging
- 1:10:02Speaker 3: on the parents and we're always like, why is she's
- 1:10:04Speaker 3: so mad? Why she's so mean. This is why. This
- 1:10:07Speaker 3: is exactly why, because Emily would do this, and she
- 1:10:11Speaker 3: did do this, and I'm heartbroken about it person and
- 1:10:15Speaker 3: like so hurt by it.
- 1:10:16Speaker 5: The reason why I do think it's like so in
- 1:10:18Speaker 5: character for her, for Emily is she's just so insistent
- 1:10:22Speaker 5: on it being the guy that that is satisfactory to her,
- 1:10:27Speaker 5: Like she's doing that with Rory. We just saw that,
- 1:10:30Speaker 5: you know, but you just saw a character get destroyed.
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: How do you come back from that? You can't rehabilitate
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: a character after that, once all those evil cards are
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: laid out on the table. Who does an audience come
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: back from that?
- 1:10:45Speaker 3: We'll have to see if we can. That's the thing.
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: And I'm sorry that was just it was just like
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: she took a sledgehammer to Emily's character. I don't know.
- 1:10:55Speaker 5: I mean, yes you do, but you also like I
- 1:10:59Speaker 5: need to see more.
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: I want to stay in the piece. I want to
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: stay in it.
- 1:11:07Speaker 5: Aren't you excited for the vour neal you.
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: Now it's just hokey to me. Now, it's just like no,
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: it's like pokem is on the way and here we go, and.
- 1:11:16Speaker 3: I agree with you on how horrible it is The
- 1:11:21Speaker 3: only thing I disagree on is that it shouldn't have
- 1:11:24Speaker 3: been in there. I'm thrilled it's in there, but.
- 1:11:27Speaker 1: I think that it was a I think it should
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: not have been in That's.
- 1:11:30Speaker 3: Just I mean, I I think it's yeah, and that's fine.
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: I've been in the room. Had they asked me, and
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: they don't. I do not film this scene. Cut this scene.
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: And if I saw I saw a rough cut of this,
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: I said, you don't need this scene.
- 1:11:43Speaker 3: So yeah, for me, I do like the scene. I
- 1:11:47Speaker 3: don't like what it is, but I like that it's
- 1:11:49Speaker 3: in there because it's so clear, it's so shocking. I'm
- 1:11:53Speaker 3: completely hooked.
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: Have to get Bishop on this show and we have
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: to ask her how she feels about that scene. Yeah,
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: and I'll ask her point blank, did you did you
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: have a talk with Amy about getting not doing this scene?
- 1:12:09Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: I'd love to hear her views on.
- 1:12:13Speaker 3: This for sure, because I think it's As an actor,
- 1:12:16Speaker 3: I would want to play that scene of Emily where
- 1:12:18Speaker 3: you're like, you see Emily being so loving and happy
- 1:12:23Speaker 3: and in love with Richard and I'm so happy and
- 1:12:26Speaker 3: trying on the wedding dresses and being so proud of
- 1:12:28Speaker 3: Laurai and then just it is like what a juxtaposition.
- 1:12:33Speaker 3: She is so dark and comes and just does this. Now,
- 1:12:37Speaker 3: in her mind, I think she thinks she's doing it
- 1:12:40Speaker 3: for the right reasons. The one thing I will ask
- 1:12:42Speaker 3: you guys, though, is are we sure there's no chance
- 1:12:47Speaker 3: she's doing it because she believes in her heart that
- 1:12:50Speaker 3: Luke will never give Lorelai her dream with the dress. Okay,
- 1:12:56Speaker 3: I'm all just throwing it out there.
- 1:12:59Speaker 5: No, I think I don't think she's worried about his
- 1:13:03Speaker 5: finances and not being owning, not franchising or being an
- 1:13:07Speaker 5: owner of a franchised diner. You know, like she's just
- 1:13:10Speaker 5: more about optics and society and you know, keeping up
- 1:13:16Speaker 5: with the Joneses versus blood lines. Yeah, blood lines.
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: Obviously there's some controversy here. We're not in agreement here.
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: That's fine. I'm going to agree, we're not going to anyway.
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: All right, So let's do let's do favorite lines and
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: what is uh tar, what's your measuring stick here?
- 1:13:35Speaker 4: Oh? Well, my favorite line is the the Slene line,
- 1:13:38Speaker 4: just because I don't know, I love that line. The
- 1:13:40Speaker 4: oh my god, it's Natalie would I'm going to give it.
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: No, No, we're not there yet. We're not there yet.
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: Let's just do no. Yeah, my bad, my bad. No,
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: measuring stick, put it away, put it back, okay. Danielle.
- 1:13:56Speaker 5: Favorite when Emily says come home.
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: Amy.
- 1:14:00Speaker 3: Favorite line it's Luke saying maybe I'll meet a nice
- 1:14:03Speaker 3: girl at your parents wedding.
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: Mine was Logan just saying every line he said in
- 1:14:11Speaker 1: the whole thing. All right, Tara, measuring stick, how many.
- 1:14:18Speaker 4: I'm going to do? Monte Cristo sandwiches?
- 1:14:21Speaker 3: Good one?
- 1:14:24Speaker 4: You know, I actually actually enjoyed this episode because of
- 1:14:27Speaker 4: how much content was in. It kept me on my toes,
- 1:14:31Speaker 4: and I feel like, even though the end listen it's
- 1:14:34Speaker 4: I don't think. I think that it's moving the show
- 1:14:37Speaker 4: along and it's keeping us coming back. So I'm actually
- 1:14:39Speaker 4: going to give it an eight point five.
- 1:14:42Speaker 5: Danielle, I'll give it a nine out of ten. Wedding dresses.
- 1:14:46Speaker 3: Amy, I'm giving it normal flavored toothpaste a ten out
- 1:14:51Speaker 3: of ten.
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: I'm going to give this.
- 1:14:57Speaker 3: And I'm so scared.
- 1:15:00Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a seven point eight three seven
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: five crumpled, rumpled bumpers, dude, and that's going to wrap
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