Latest / Hurdle with Emily Abbate / 301. Optimal Nutrition, Dissected: Chef Dan Churchill On How To Fuel For Better Performance & Helpful Tricks To Feel Your Best
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Look after our performance.
- 0:02Speaker 2: You have to look after your second brain, which is
- 0:04Speaker 2: the gut connected to your first brain, the brain, and
- 0:07Speaker 2: a lot of that is to do by eating enough
- 0:09Speaker 2: plants and a variety of that.
- 0:25Speaker 3: Hello everyone, Emily Abadi.
- 0:27Speaker 4: Here you are listening to episode three hundred and one
- 0:30Speaker 4: of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast where I talk to
- 0:34Speaker 4: inspirational people about everything from their highest ties and toughest
- 0:37Speaker 4: moments to essential tips on how to live a healthier, happier,
- 0:42Speaker 4: more motivated life. We all go through our fair share
- 0:45Speaker 4: of hurdles. My goal through these discussions is to empower
- 0:49Speaker 4: you to better navigate yours and move with intention so
- 0:52Speaker 4: that you can stride towards your own big potential and
- 0:55Speaker 4: of course have some fun along the way. For episode
- 1:00Speaker 4: one hundred and one, I am bringing back my dear
- 1:02Speaker 4: friend Dan Churchill. He is a chef and the author
- 1:06Speaker 4: of the new book coming out tomorrow May twenty first,
- 1:10Speaker 4: Eat like a Legend, delicious, super easy recipes to perform
- 1:15Speaker 4: at your peak, and that is exactly what we're going
- 1:17Speaker 4: to talk about today. Dan is giving me the insights,
- 1:21Speaker 4: his knowledge, his know how on how to eat better
- 1:24Speaker 4: to fuel your body for optimum performance, whether you're trying
- 1:28Speaker 4: to show up to work and be on your A game,
- 1:30Speaker 4: or you're training for some sort of a race, a competition.
- 1:34Speaker 3: Want to perform better at the gym?
- 1:36Speaker 4: Wanna beat that brain fog that comes midday almost every day.
- 1:40Speaker 3: Yep, I used to be that person too. I get it.
- 1:43Speaker 3: He has the know how.
- 1:45Speaker 4: We talk about so many great tips today, covering everything
- 1:49Speaker 4: from hydration to micronutrients, macro nutrients, how many vegetables and
- 1:55Speaker 4: fruits you should be getting regularly, and cannot forget the
- 1:58Speaker 4: importance of protein. Truly, a really comprehensive rundown today from Dan,
- 2:03Speaker 4: and I'm so so excited for his new book again.
- 2:06Speaker 3: It is called Eat like a Legend.
- 2:08Speaker 4: Delicious, super easy recipes to perform at your peak. Fun fact,
- 2:13Speaker 4: Dan has been on the show twice before. He was
- 2:16Speaker 4: my guest for episode twelve, so this is a long
- 2:20Speaker 4: standing relationship. He is a dear friend of mine and
- 2:23Speaker 4: I have this cookbook. I read through some of the
- 2:25Speaker 4: names of the recipes during our conversation. Trust me, oh
- 2:29Speaker 4: my god, they look amazing. That feels like the biggest understatement.
- 2:33Speaker 4: I am already planning to make you one. Entitled twelve
- 2:36Speaker 4: minutes to shak Shuka Heaven this coming weekend. If you're
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- 3:08Speaker 4: It's Admiral Podcast. I am over at Emily a Body
- 3:11Speaker 4: And with that, let's get to it. Let's get to hurting.
- 3:20Speaker 3: Today.
- 3:21Speaker 4: I'm welcoming my dear friend Dan Churchill back into the studio.
- 3:25Speaker 3: He's got a new book coming out.
- 3:26Speaker 4: It's called Eat Like a Legend, Delicious, super easy recipes
- 3:30Speaker 4: to perform at your peak.
- 3:33Speaker 3: Welcome Dan, how are we doing?
- 3:34Speaker 1: Gooday mate? Thanks having me back.
- 3:36Speaker 3: Good day mate.
- 3:37Speaker 2: You even said the legend as ouzzy as you possibly could.
- 3:40Speaker 4: It's you know what I go for. You know you're
- 3:42Speaker 4: no stranger to the show here. Dan although there are
- 3:46Speaker 4: people that are going to be new to you that
- 3:48Speaker 4: are listening, so why don't we give them a little
- 3:51Speaker 4: bit of a rundown of how you got really interested
- 3:54Speaker 4: in food, how you began cooking before we talked today
- 3:58Speaker 4: about how to eat like a leg and how to
- 4:01Speaker 4: fuel for your best performance and of course also better
- 4:04Speaker 4: mental side of things.
- 4:05Speaker 1: You got it well.
- 4:05Speaker 2: First, shout out to all the Hurdlestens because AM's a legend,
- 4:09Speaker 2: like she defines legend. So for those who've never heard
- 4:13Speaker 2: my journey before, I'm a chef formerly a strength and
- 4:17Speaker 2: conditioning coach. So in Australia, I was a strength and
- 4:20Speaker 2: conditioning coach I did in my master's degree, and then
- 4:23Speaker 2: working with those talented athletes on a team level, I
- 4:27Speaker 2: found out that they weren't understanding of what the nutritionists
- 4:31Speaker 2: was saying out a practical sense for their cooking. And
- 4:33Speaker 2: I was cooking at home since the age of eleven,
- 4:35Speaker 2: So I just essentially put them two together and allowed
- 4:38Speaker 2: the athletes to understand how to actually cook the meals
- 4:41Speaker 2: that the nutritionists wanted them to actually have. So over
- 4:44Speaker 2: time and then jump back into kitchens, did it more
- 4:47Speaker 2: of an actual profession? If you Will started releasing some
- 4:50Speaker 2: cookbooks and that led me to being able to move
- 4:53Speaker 2: to America and work with some of the best athletes
- 4:55Speaker 2: in the world. So my skill set is the ability
- 4:58Speaker 2: to take a complex topic of nutrition, particularly the performance world,
- 5:04Speaker 2: and put it into an easy to understand and practical
- 5:06Speaker 2: setting or the applied nutrition space in the actual cooking.
- 5:09Speaker 1: So that's what I do.
- 5:11Speaker 4: Someone here is I moved to the United States and
- 5:14Speaker 4: then I started working with all these dope humans and
- 5:16Speaker 4: they're like cool, but how so what's the how how
- 5:20Speaker 4: did that happen for you?
- 5:20Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. I'm reading a topic habits.
- 5:23Speaker 3: Like the fourth time right on my desk right here.
- 5:25Speaker 2: I know I noticed it. Mate, Like, I can't be
- 5:28Speaker 2: more it can't be more apparent. The word obviously grit,
- 5:32Speaker 2: but also how to play the long game is in anything.
- 5:34Speaker 2: So you know, you've been doing this podcast for many years, right,
- 5:37Speaker 2: and so like you're constantly getting the reps in and
- 5:40Speaker 2: I talk about this a lot, so get the reps in.
- 5:43Speaker 2: So what I did was I found a way to
- 5:47Speaker 2: be consistent on something I'm passionate about, and that was
- 5:50Speaker 2: through content. I was able to share my message and
- 5:53Speaker 2: break through the mold of how people should be looking
- 5:56Speaker 2: at themselves through performance and using food to do so.
- 5:59Speaker 1: So, you know, could simply just through Instagram.
- 6:01Speaker 2: It could be blogs, It could be speaking to people
- 6:03Speaker 2: at dinners that I was then cooking at, and that
- 6:05Speaker 2: evolved into eventually people had heard of what I was
- 6:09Speaker 2: doing to then you know, my number one seoed topic
- 6:14Speaker 2: was the healthy Chef on Google and so that led
- 6:16Speaker 2: to articles that I've been creating, and so under Ama
- 6:19Speaker 2: reached out to me, and that was the very first
- 6:21Speaker 2: like moment for me to reconcile that the work that
- 6:24Speaker 2: I've been doing for years of creating content, creating articles,
- 6:27Speaker 2: putting out my philosophies around performance.
- 6:30Speaker 1: Based food had actually worked.
- 6:33Speaker 2: And you know, we talk about just being consistent and
- 6:36Speaker 2: eventually it pays off.
- 6:37Speaker 1: It does.
- 6:38Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I agree, and I love that idea of
- 6:41Speaker 4: the reps, I mean, completely unrelated to cooking. I was
- 6:44Speaker 4: saying to someone yesterday that I've been out of the
- 6:47Speaker 4: dating game forever and at this point I feel like
- 6:49Speaker 4: I just need some reps. Like I'm not the kind
- 6:52Speaker 4: of person that likes to just go on a DAT
- 6:53Speaker 4: for a free dinner, unlike friends of mine.
- 6:57Speaker 3: When we were in our early twenties. That was it
- 7:01Speaker 3: was never me. It was never me.
- 7:03Speaker 4: But I feel as though now I need to get
- 7:07Speaker 4: back into dating in a way that I'm just putting
- 7:09Speaker 4: in the reps.
- 7:10Speaker 2: Yeah I'm out of practice. Yeah, well, we've talked about this.
- 7:14Speaker 2: There's a guy, there's so many guys out there that'll
- 7:17Speaker 2: be lucky to have you. We've said this, you're very sweet, Dan,
- 7:19Speaker 2: but we'll.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Make it happen.
- 7:20Speaker 2: But one hund percent and applies to everything, whether it
- 7:22Speaker 2: be dating, cooking, or you know this simple one like
- 7:25Speaker 2: you hear reps, you think getting stronger in the gym,
- 7:28Speaker 2: but think about learning language, doing better at wordle in
- 7:31Speaker 2: the morning reading, or even just you know, making sure
- 7:34Speaker 2: you've been consistent about spending time with someone you know.
- 7:38Speaker 2: I always talk about looking after you first, and I
- 7:41Speaker 2: think one of the biggest things I talk about getting
- 7:42Speaker 2: the reps in is when was the last time you'll
- 7:44Speaker 2: consistently get the reps in to look after you first?
- 7:46Speaker 4: Totally, I totally agree, and even I mean I can
- 7:50Speaker 4: apply this to the physical therapy exercises I'm doing right now.
- 7:53Speaker 4: My hip is feeling a little wonky. Of course, why
- 7:55Speaker 4: would I ever be able to be completely injury free,
- 7:58Speaker 4: and I know that every day, if I put in
- 8:00Speaker 4: the reps, it's going to pay off. It might not
- 8:02Speaker 4: happen as fast as I want it to, but that's
- 8:05Speaker 4: where patience comes in, and that's where you learn the lessons, right, Like,
- 8:08Speaker 4: it's nice when things go your way and everything feels easy,
- 8:11Speaker 4: but it is those moments of adversity, the difficult moments,
- 8:15Speaker 4: the excessive amount of reps that we put in that
- 8:17Speaker 4: really teach us how to be better and help pay off.
- 8:19Speaker 1: In the long haul. Yeah.
- 8:21Speaker 2: The best example I've got that I don't know if
- 8:23Speaker 2: it's relevant to everybody here, but a guy called mister
- 8:25Speaker 2: Beast on YouTube. He says, you know, the first two
- 8:28Speaker 2: years of doing YouTube, you make a lot of mistakes
- 8:30Speaker 2: and no one knows you. For the next two years,
- 8:32Speaker 2: no one knows you, but you start to make wet headwind.
- 8:34Speaker 2: The fifty is when you start to actually make some
- 8:38Speaker 2: I guess momentum. But if you think about that five years,
- 8:41Speaker 2: who's willing to be in wilderness for two and a
- 8:43Speaker 2: half three years before anything happens.
- 8:46Speaker 1: And that's the same with anything.
- 8:47Speaker 4: That we do totally. So I'm staring at this book
- 8:49Speaker 4: here eat like a legend. Great photo.
- 8:52Speaker 1: Either way, I appreciate it.
- 8:53Speaker 4: Tell me how this came to be. This is a
- 8:55Speaker 4: really beautiful looking cookbook.
- 8:57Speaker 1: Thanks mate.
- 8:57Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've been out of the cookbook game for
- 9:00Speaker 2: about six years, you know.
- 9:02Speaker 1: Transparently.
- 9:03Speaker 2: My last book didn't do well in the States, but
- 9:04Speaker 2: that was before I actually hadn't even moved here. So
- 9:07Speaker 2: what happened was I launched a book from Australia here
- 9:10Speaker 2: and it was kind of like the early stage of
- 9:12Speaker 2: social media where people weren't looking at the followings as
- 9:17Speaker 2: where they're from or demographics, and they're just looking at
- 9:19Speaker 2: as numbers.
- 9:20Speaker 1: So I had a bit of a following back then.
- 9:21Speaker 2: It was like, you know, the equivalent to whatever it
- 9:24Speaker 2: is now that's like big, but it was small compared
- 9:26Speaker 2: to what we have now. And so they thought like, oh,
- 9:29Speaker 2: this guy's got so many followers, is going to do
- 9:31Speaker 2: well over the seas. So they signed me to a
- 9:33Speaker 2: book deal and it didn't do well, and so for me,
- 9:35Speaker 2: the adversity in the hurdle and that was like it
- 9:37Speaker 2: kind of put me on the back foot and lack
- 9:39Speaker 2: of confidence, for example, And so six years of me
- 9:44Speaker 2: knowing I wanted to do another book was constantly in
- 9:47Speaker 2: my head by It's like, when's the right time? And
- 9:50Speaker 2: it took me to like understand how honestly everything from
- 9:53Speaker 2: branding to messaging to building relationships that could help me
- 9:58Speaker 2: that really helped me kind of firstly get over that
- 10:02Speaker 2: confidence barrier, but then meet the right people that eventually
- 10:07Speaker 2: after get the reps in, put me in the right direction.
- 10:09Speaker 2: So what happened was a guy called doctor b doctor
- 10:12Speaker 2: Will Bulsowitz, who's the Gut health MD. He lost a
- 10:15Speaker 2: book called Fiberfield and I was talking to him and
- 10:19Speaker 2: he said, Dude, when are you doing your book? You've
- 10:20Speaker 2: been talking about all these philosophies for a long time
- 10:22Speaker 2: now on your podcast everything you talk to people about.
- 10:25Speaker 1: When are you doing your book? And I was like,
- 10:27Speaker 1: you know what, man, You're right, it's time.
- 10:30Speaker 2: And I knew I knew within me that it was like, Okay,
- 10:33Speaker 2: I wanted to put a book together that was going
- 10:36Speaker 2: to help people get the reps in, put themselves first
- 10:40Speaker 2: by reading something they could sink their teeth into learn
- 10:44Speaker 2: fundamental recipes have tips along the way, but also have
- 10:47Speaker 2: a really big point of difference in the performance aspect,
- 10:50Speaker 2: which is what I do and I didn't want to
- 10:52Speaker 2: be where it's like you have to be an athlete,
- 10:54Speaker 2: you know. I call everyday legends inside this book for anybody,
- 10:57Speaker 2: because everybody needs to perform every day, whether it be
- 10:59Speaker 2: you know, mother looking after their kids, or someone trying
- 11:02Speaker 2: to get a promotion or whatever it is in their
- 11:03Speaker 2: own daily life. So I really like spoke to him
- 11:07Speaker 2: about this is like, dude, let me introduce my LID agent.
- 11:10Speaker 2: He introduced me to his LID agent, and Steph's amazing,
- 11:13Speaker 2: and then she just like wrote me proposal because I
- 11:15Speaker 2: loved this book, and I put the proposal together with
- 11:19Speaker 2: a writer and she went straight to a publisher, Harper,
- 11:22Speaker 2: and they were like, we want this right now. So
- 11:25Speaker 2: it was it was it was a really I think
- 11:27Speaker 2: the biggest thing for me to explain is I had
- 11:30Speaker 2: to get over this concept of failure that I had
- 11:33Speaker 2: done and the learnings I had from that very first
- 11:36Speaker 2: book in the States that I had done, to then
- 11:39Speaker 2: realize I've learnt so much for me to then grow
- 11:43Speaker 2: and now apply to this new book, this new project.
- 11:46Speaker 2: Have you written a book before, now you've all the
- 11:49Speaker 2: writing right, So.
- 11:51Speaker 1: Like writing a books a project. But it's also like.
- 11:56Speaker 2: When you fail at something you do, you do and
- 11:59Speaker 2: once they failed, it's like, I think you set goals
- 12:01Speaker 2: and when I'm so glory. We are so goal orientated,
- 12:04Speaker 2: particularly these day and age. It's like, if I'm going
- 12:07Speaker 2: to a book, I'm going to do it so well
- 12:09Speaker 2: and be all in on it. And that's when you know,
- 12:12Speaker 2: you just.
- 12:12Speaker 4: Know, Yeah, when you know you now well, I mean,
- 12:16Speaker 4: this book is entirely different than your last book called
- 12:20Speaker 4: Dude Food. And I say that not just for a
- 12:25Speaker 4: quick laugh, but also because this book embodies who it
- 12:30Speaker 4: is that you are. And I think that life happens
- 12:34Speaker 4: in that way, and projects show up for us when
- 12:37Speaker 4: it feels right with us. And you've done so much work,
- 12:41Speaker 4: not only professionally, but on yourself and getting to know
- 12:45Speaker 4: who it is that you are and what it is
- 12:47Speaker 4: that you're after, and what's your values and what's important
- 12:50Speaker 4: to you. And so by putting in that work and
- 12:53Speaker 4: putting in those reps on yourself, you got yourself to
- 12:56Speaker 4: a place where you were prepared to create the book that.
- 12:59Speaker 3: Was meant for you.
- 13:00Speaker 1: Mate, That's exactly it. Yeah, Like this is the book.
- 13:04Speaker 2: This book embodies me now and it's who I am
- 13:09Speaker 2: it's also what I'm passionate about and what I want
- 13:12Speaker 2: to have an impact on. But it took me personal
- 13:15Speaker 2: development to get there. You know, like, over the years
- 13:18Speaker 2: of living in New York City, we've grown, you learned
- 13:22Speaker 2: so much about yourself and you learn about what it
- 13:24Speaker 2: is you want to share, and people like, what's your goal.
- 13:26Speaker 1: I'm like, well, my goal is not.
- 13:29Speaker 2: To make like straight up, it's like, I know this
- 13:32Speaker 2: book's going to change people's lives, right, So become a
- 13:35Speaker 2: New York Times bestseller is a personal goal, but getting
- 13:38Speaker 2: on a list is something that helps you expand the
- 13:41Speaker 2: horizons of people's understanding of how they look after themselves.
- 13:44Speaker 2: So the point out the journey that what you're talking
- 13:47Speaker 2: about was I learned to put myself first, and I
- 13:50Speaker 2: don't think this day and age people are doing that,
- 13:52Speaker 2: which means they can't put anyone else around them.
- 13:54Speaker 1: In the same breath of fashat you know.
- 13:56Speaker 4: What doesn't mean to you when you say forum at
- 14:00Speaker 4: your peak.
- 14:02Speaker 2: So I feel there's a couple of things to kind
- 14:05Speaker 2: of touch on there with respect to like potential, you know,
- 14:09Speaker 2: and all these things that we hear are the buzzwords
- 14:12Speaker 2: or not for me to perform at your peak is
- 14:16Speaker 2: someone who's living up to the expectation within themselves of
- 14:19Speaker 2: what they can actually achieve, and I you know, it's
- 14:23Speaker 2: like getting the reps in again. Applies to this in
- 14:25Speaker 2: the sense that as you do the practice, do more
- 14:29Speaker 2: of the work, you achieve something that you are setting
- 14:32Speaker 2: out to do goals. But at the same time, when
- 14:36Speaker 2: it comes to performance at your peak, you are doing
- 14:38Speaker 2: the best you can do at a given skill, action
- 14:42Speaker 2: or step, so cooking, walking with your friends, giving them
- 14:47Speaker 2: utmost attention, thinking about a problem, thinking about a project
- 14:50Speaker 2: you're performing and so to be able to do that
- 14:54Speaker 2: is performing at your peak. To get there, you need
- 14:57Speaker 2: to be pretty much like one hundred percent all in
- 15:00Speaker 2: in that time. But also there's things around cognitive health
- 15:03Speaker 2: and physical health, emotional, spiritual health. We can even go
- 15:07Speaker 2: there that really helped you optimize your overall performance. So today,
- 15:13Speaker 2: where we've got so many distractions and things going on
- 15:15Speaker 2: outside the world that we often get stimulated by and
- 15:18Speaker 2: carrying our way, the idea is to bring it back
- 15:22Speaker 2: to you and provide opportunities for you to grow within
- 15:26Speaker 2: yourself to then eventually perform at your peak. Based on
- 15:29Speaker 2: applying basic fundamental skills.
- 15:31Speaker 4: And what I'm also understanding here is that your peak
- 15:34Speaker 4: can ebb and flow depending on the day. I think
- 15:37Speaker 4: that there's so much value in this concept of all
- 15:39Speaker 4: it takes is all you've got in some days what
- 15:42Speaker 4: you have.
- 15:43Speaker 3: What you've got is different than another.
- 15:46Speaker 4: Some days you show up and you're like, all I
- 15:48Speaker 4: have to offer today is this, and that's great. And
- 15:51Speaker 4: so it's meeting yourself with where you're at and understanding
- 15:53Speaker 4: that you can garner all the tools and have them
- 15:57Speaker 4: within your power to use at any given moment, Understanding
- 16:01Speaker 4: that the execution and how you use them may have
- 16:04Speaker 4: been flow and that's okay.
- 16:05Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent.
- 16:06Speaker 2: And like you think about the most common thing again
- 16:09Speaker 2: physical activity. We leading up to a boss, a math
- 16:12Speaker 2: on or a mathon in general, you're probably dialing yourself
- 16:15Speaker 2: in for electrolytes and all the foods that can help
- 16:17Speaker 2: you get across that line efficiently. But I would dare
- 16:21Speaker 2: say it like it's a Tuesday morning or Monday morning
- 16:24Speaker 2: and you've got to deliver a presentation or you're pitching
- 16:26Speaker 2: or you want it. You've got a meeting with someone
- 16:28Speaker 2: who could give you like how you fueling yourself to
- 16:32Speaker 2: support that step. I just don't think people looking at
- 16:35Speaker 2: that with the same frame of mind they are with
- 16:37Speaker 2: their you know, actionable steps. So back to your point,
- 16:41Speaker 2: it does ebb and flow, and there's different things where
- 16:43Speaker 2: you need to perform out your peak with different types
- 16:45Speaker 2: of actions. I just think really honing in on looking
- 16:49Speaker 2: after you, whether it be through food or actionable sleep
- 16:52Speaker 2: and understanding all that can be absolutely beneficial more than
- 16:56Speaker 2: we think.
- 16:57Speaker 4: All Right, so where does someone begin when it comes
- 17:00Speaker 4: to fueling to perform at our peak? I feel like
- 17:02Speaker 4: we need to break this down into maybe different categories. Right,
- 17:06Speaker 4: So what's the first thing that someone should be cognizant
- 17:09Speaker 4: of when they're really trying to get their act together
- 17:12Speaker 4: for optimal performance.
- 17:13Speaker 2: The number one thing is that you treat your body
- 17:16Speaker 2: as your body. And the term bio individual is so
- 17:19Speaker 2: apparent here because you can look at identical twins who
- 17:25Speaker 2: over the course of their lifetime will look physically different
- 17:28Speaker 2: based on the choices they make in their lifestyle. Right,
- 17:32Speaker 2: So we know that we've seen that even though you
- 17:34Speaker 2: can have the same genes, you have different lifestyle choices.
- 17:38Speaker 2: The foods you eat can affect the way that you physically,
- 17:40Speaker 2: your fineotype change.
- 17:42Speaker 1: So what does that mean?
- 17:43Speaker 2: Well, the way I digesting is the way you digesting
- 17:46Speaker 2: is going to be different. So your enzymes are going
- 17:49Speaker 2: to work more or less efficiently based on certain foods
- 17:52Speaker 2: that I'm also having. So when people trying to compare
- 17:55Speaker 2: between each other how to eat, it's never the right
- 17:58Speaker 2: way to go about it. If you're girlfriend can have
- 18:00Speaker 2: the pasta, but you like you want to have the
- 18:02Speaker 2: pastor because you see them eating it and you think
- 18:04Speaker 2: that's the best way to go about it, you're probably
- 18:06Speaker 2: not taking at account your body. So the way we
- 18:10Speaker 2: measure this, the most easy way is how you feel,
- 18:13Speaker 2: very subjective, hard to quantify. Then you've got things like
- 18:17Speaker 2: physical things like you can actually look at your stool
- 18:19Speaker 2: and there's something called the Bristol stool chart to see
- 18:21Speaker 2: that there's a range between one and seven different shapes.
- 18:25Speaker 2: You can have the really really like wet, which is
- 18:27Speaker 2: not good. Then you have the super super hard, which
- 18:29Speaker 2: is also not good. You want something that's like in
- 18:31Speaker 2: the middle. And so also you can talk about your regularity,
- 18:35Speaker 2: and these are great ways for us to understand if
- 18:37Speaker 2: we're taking into account out by individuality.
- 18:40Speaker 1: I think I've used this before.
- 18:41Speaker 2: With you mate, But you know, chickpeas are so often
- 18:44Speaker 2: deemed a great, you know ingredient, and they are for
- 18:48Speaker 2: the majority of time. But I'm sure there's people out
- 18:50Speaker 2: there who smash hummers because it's amazing, and they wake
- 18:54Speaker 2: up the next day or they even thirty minutes after
- 18:56Speaker 2: having the hummers with bread that just don't feel good.
- 18:58Speaker 2: And it's like, unfortunately, some people don't have the enzymes
- 19:02Speaker 2: to break down those leg hmes. So again you've got
- 19:04Speaker 2: to take that into account. So you've got all those
- 19:07Speaker 2: subjective means you do have the objective with the viewership
- 19:10Speaker 2: of like how your stool is, then you can go
- 19:12Speaker 2: into eventually, like you know, deficiencies and understand where you're
- 19:15Speaker 2: deficient by getting tests done such as we hone and
- 19:18Speaker 2: things like that.
- 19:20Speaker 1: But that's the.
- 19:21Speaker 2: Number one thing. Number one thing, more than anything, is
- 19:23Speaker 2: to treat yourself individually. Listen to your body and don't
- 19:27Speaker 2: just do things because other people are doing that. Number
- 19:29Speaker 2: two cut out refined sugars. I know that sounds so simple.
- 19:35Speaker 4: He's looking at a can of diet coke I have
- 19:37Speaker 4: on the desk right now, But diet there's no sugar.
- 19:42Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I'm not going to go into I'm not
- 19:45Speaker 2: going to go into this. Look the number one, the
- 19:49Speaker 2: number one, this is your vice. Hey, I've already been
- 19:52Speaker 2: through your fridge. I just I totally nerd it out
- 19:54Speaker 2: of it. Yeah, it's true. So number two is cut
- 19:57Speaker 2: out refined sugars. But what I'm telling you right now
- 19:59Speaker 2: is not something everyone's oh yeah, well, I just it's like,
- 20:02Speaker 2: oh my god, newsflash. New York Times front page, Dan
- 20:05Speaker 2: Churchill says to do no sugar, Like everyone knows that, right.
- 20:09Speaker 2: But definitely I've seen how important cutting out reflined sugars
- 20:13Speaker 2: is so least removers much that you can. The third
- 20:16Speaker 2: one is providing the biggest one in my opinion. We
- 20:21Speaker 2: have this argument that we used to anyway around plant
- 20:23Speaker 2: based versus meat eaters, and it was like to and fro.
- 20:26Speaker 2: You'd have like all these heads of their respective call
- 20:30Speaker 2: it arguments going back and forth to and Chris TikTok
- 20:33Speaker 2: and podcasts, et cetera. But if you look at all
- 20:35Speaker 2: the research in the papers, Number one actually biggest adjustment
- 20:40Speaker 2: was if you are someone whether or not you're eating
- 20:44Speaker 2: meat or not eating meat, The biggest differentiator in our
- 20:47Speaker 2: health is and performance is how much plants you are getting.
- 20:52Speaker 2: So if you're a media to having no plants, it's
- 20:55Speaker 2: really bad. But if you're a media to having plants,
- 20:58Speaker 2: you know, it's especially diversity of plants that's got such
- 21:02Speaker 2: a big impact on your support. And the reason for
- 21:04Speaker 2: this is we look at the macronutrient profile. I'll talk
- 21:07Speaker 2: about this in the book. Can I bring up this
- 21:08Speaker 2: thing called the fifth macronutrient? Do you know what the
- 21:11Speaker 2: three macronutrients are? I know that's you got it?
- 21:14Speaker 3: Craves, fat and protein.
- 21:15Speaker 1: Nice. Do you know what the fourth is? Now? Water?
- 21:18Speaker 3: Oh?
- 21:19Speaker 2: And they sometimes say alcohol too, But I've said the
- 21:22Speaker 2: fifth one is actually the cohort of the micronutrients. The
- 21:26Speaker 2: reason why I said that is because macro is sexy,
- 21:30Speaker 2: really easy to read a packet and see protein, fats,
- 21:32Speaker 2: and carbs. We've got this dogmatic approach like numbers, how
- 21:35Speaker 2: many calories am I having? Am I a death deficit?
- 21:38Speaker 1: You know?
- 21:38Speaker 2: All these kind of things? Am I getting enough protein today?
- 21:40Speaker 2: And we know protein is such a more amazingly sexy topic.
- 21:43Speaker 2: How much proteins they got on a macat on a package.
- 21:46Speaker 2: But we don't talk about is like, you know, the
- 21:49Speaker 2: understanding of magnesium and potassium and iron like iron and
- 21:52Speaker 2: women is so a man obviously, but particularly in women
- 21:56Speaker 2: with their metro cycle, like you have to be so
- 22:00Speaker 2: twisted on of how much iron you're having. And it's
- 22:02Speaker 2: not just the amount of iron you're having, but how
- 22:05Speaker 2: much you're absorbing. And that's where green leafy vegetables are
- 22:08Speaker 2: so important for your performance because you can take on
- 22:11Speaker 2: all the salmon you want and all the meats and
- 22:13Speaker 2: things like that that have the iron, but if you're
- 22:15Speaker 2: not having the calcium, finam and c all those kind
- 22:18Speaker 2: of things to support, you're not.
- 22:20Speaker 1: Going to have the ability to actually withdraw and use it.
- 22:22Speaker 2: So that's why I say, although it's good to have
- 22:25Speaker 2: your proteins, fats and carbs, if you don't have the
- 22:28Speaker 2: fifth magnutrient, which is your veggies, you are not getting
- 22:30Speaker 2: the support and they're just kind of like, for lack
- 22:32Speaker 2: of a better way of putting this together, floating around.
- 22:35Speaker 1: It's just not being utilized.
- 22:36Speaker 2: Right three cap number one by the individuality, number two,
- 22:41Speaker 2: cut it refined sugar number three, eat more plants.
- 22:43Speaker 4: Okay, pretty simple, pretty simple. First thing to touch on.
- 22:47Speaker 4: Lots of things to double click on here the first thing,
- 22:49Speaker 4: refined sugars. For someone who struggles cutting out refined sugars
- 22:52Speaker 4: from their diet, how do you recommend that they begin.
- 22:55Speaker 4: What's a small step that they can take toward accomplishing that.
- 22:59Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is a good point.
- 23:01Speaker 2: The first one is adjusting to like maybe more natural sugars,
- 23:04Speaker 2: so honeys and maple syrups, you know, if you can.
- 23:07Speaker 1: The reason why I say this is.
- 23:08Speaker 2: If you look at like, if you look at our intakeers,
- 23:12Speaker 2: Like in the American society, a lot of people just
- 23:15Speaker 2: adding sugars to their day even though it's already sugars
- 23:18Speaker 2: in the existing meals are about to have so like
- 23:20Speaker 2: you know, not a lot of people are like me
- 23:22Speaker 2: and are snobbishing about their coffee as a naussy and
- 23:24Speaker 2: can have like the understanding of why we want black coffee.
- 23:27Speaker 2: They need to have a sweetener in it, so like
- 23:30Speaker 2: go for a honey or a maple syrup, a little
- 23:33Speaker 2: dash of that instead of having you know, table sugar. Right,
- 23:36Speaker 2: it still has a spike, but it's still got some
- 23:39Speaker 2: trade minerals in it that can support other things.
- 23:41Speaker 1: If that makes sense.
- 23:42Speaker 2: YEA, So number one cut that part out and adjust
- 23:45Speaker 2: number two is I would work on the ability to
- 23:47Speaker 2: kind of understand what your vices are, and I get
- 23:52Speaker 2: the reps in progressively work and wean your way off
- 23:55Speaker 2: to understand how much you're actually taking on them, what
- 23:57Speaker 2: you actually need. If you're having seer for breakfast or
- 24:00Speaker 2: a granola, there's only that much sugar in there. Plus
- 24:03Speaker 2: if you add more sugar to your coffee, and then
- 24:05Speaker 2: you have you know, say a snack barbs, you got sugar,
- 24:08Speaker 2: and you can start to see it's.
- 24:09Speaker 1: Done add up really simple.
- 24:11Speaker 2: So I just say, progressively, start to wean off package
- 24:14Speaker 2: foods as best possible to and enjoy plenty of fruit.
- 24:17Speaker 1: I love my berries.
- 24:18Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I've been doing frozen grapes at the end
- 24:21Speaker 4: of the day because I definitely have like a dessert virus.
- 24:24Speaker 4: So I'm trying to wean off of my YAsO Greek
- 24:28Speaker 4: yogurt bars favor of frozen grapes.
- 24:32Speaker 3: These are my These are the things I'm leaning into.
- 24:33Speaker 4: The diet coke, which you don't like, and the yeah
- 24:35Speaker 4: so Greek yogat bars.
- 24:36Speaker 1: What else do you see?
- 24:38Speaker 2: Is like even just in general, because we talk about
- 24:40Speaker 2: this and you must talk about your friends. It's like
- 24:43Speaker 2: I'm not saying don't ever, I still go and have
- 24:45Speaker 2: chocolate totally, totally, but I'm not saying don't have it. Yeah,
- 24:48Speaker 2: I'm just being alert and understanding of like there's there's
- 24:52Speaker 2: simple tips or our headspace. It's like, well, it's all
- 24:56Speaker 2: about you actually putting in the work, which means do
- 24:59Speaker 2: you care about yourself to actually make the change. And
- 25:02Speaker 2: that's not me saying well, dance, give me an ultimatum.
- 25:04Speaker 2: It's like no, just honest, Like, if you if you're
- 25:06Speaker 2: someone who wants to cut out refined sugar, I can
- 25:09Speaker 2: tell you all the tips and tricks here in the day.
- 25:12Speaker 2: You're the one is gonna have to do it, and
- 25:15Speaker 2: until it's unfortunately is the thing about gain repsin in food,
- 25:19Speaker 2: It's like get the repsin is so apparent because you
- 25:22Speaker 2: don't see it immediately. It's something that does take you know,
- 25:27Speaker 2: even years to either come to fruition of how important
- 25:31Speaker 2: cutting out something like refined to can be. You know,
- 25:33Speaker 2: can delay or imprevent the onset of so many problematic diseases.
- 25:38Speaker 2: So it's not the unfortunate situation where you get a
- 25:42Speaker 2: like or a comment that gives you affirmation of how
- 25:45Speaker 2: you're doing straight away, you have to be put the
- 25:47Speaker 2: dedication in.
- 25:48Speaker 3: And this comes full circle with the importance of a why.
- 25:51Speaker 2: Right.
- 25:52Speaker 4: I always say that where there's a why, there's a way,
- 25:54Speaker 4: And when you have a firm idea of what it
- 25:57Speaker 4: is that your goals are and why it is that
- 25:59Speaker 4: you want to be cognizant of what you're putting into
- 26:01Speaker 4: your body, then it'll be a little bit easier to
- 26:05Speaker 4: make these choices, albeit small, to get you to that point.
- 26:10Speaker 4: So for me, I'll give you an example from when
- 26:11Speaker 4: I was back in college. I was on a major
- 26:13Speaker 4: weight loss journey, and I had been until I started
- 26:18Speaker 4: on this journey, probably eating ice cream at least once
- 26:22Speaker 4: a day at some point in my dining in college.
- 26:24Speaker 4: And so I made the decision that instead of eating
- 26:27Speaker 4: ice cream once a day, I when I was losing weight,
- 26:31Speaker 4: was using weight Watchers, and after I wait in at
- 26:33Speaker 4: wheat Watchers every week, I would go to the drive
- 26:35Speaker 4: through get myself a black ice coffee and a glaze
- 26:39Speaker 4: stick donut. And that was like when I had my
- 26:41Speaker 4: sugar exciting moment. And that's not to say that there
- 26:43Speaker 4: wasn't sugar dispersed in other moments.
- 26:46Speaker 3: Throughout my week.
- 26:47Speaker 4: But I just made the conscious decision that I was
- 26:49Speaker 4: not going to have ice cream every day anymore because
- 26:52Speaker 4: my goals were bigger than that.
- 26:53Speaker 1: That's it.
- 26:54Speaker 2: You made a point to take care. You put yourself first. Yeah,
- 26:58Speaker 2: but you're also realistic because you need you need to
- 27:00Speaker 2: look after yourself at the whole.
- 27:01Speaker 1: This is the rest of your life.
- 27:02Speaker 2: We're talking about your life, so you want to enjoy things,
- 27:07Speaker 2: and yeah, like that's that's all we're saying. Is like
- 27:09Speaker 2: finding ways to motivate you for the longevity of your
- 27:13Speaker 2: entire life so you can perform and do the things
- 27:16Speaker 2: you want to be doing. And you know, there's nothing
- 27:18Speaker 2: worse than having no energy to look after your kids
- 27:20Speaker 2: or like not being able to you're pushing for things
- 27:23Speaker 2: at work, but you don't have the bird to do
- 27:25Speaker 2: get off the couch because you're just so tired, because
- 27:27Speaker 2: you're not sleeping, you're you know, not looking after yourself.
- 27:31Speaker 2: And I'd also say it's like I think, for me,
- 27:34Speaker 2: what and this is not a guy thing, but a
- 27:37Speaker 2: lot of guys like to understand, say building lean, muscle
- 27:41Speaker 2: and get big, so they follow a numbers spectrum. And
- 27:44Speaker 2: I think numbers are really good, but they can also
- 27:46Speaker 2: be detrimental in our headspace. So you know, either be
- 27:49Speaker 2: jumping on the scale or and looking at a number
- 27:52Speaker 2: to determine how healthy we are. That's not what it
- 27:54Speaker 2: should be. It's to be like how you feel is
- 27:57Speaker 2: so much more important.
- 27:59Speaker 1: I will say.
- 28:00Speaker 2: Understanding your macronutrient including the fifth macronutrient profile, is important.
- 28:05Speaker 2: So understanding your deficiencies is just as important to understand
- 28:07Speaker 2: how you're tracking. So you know, like I'm right now,
- 28:10Speaker 2: I'm doing a new program for high rocks, but after
- 28:13Speaker 2: coming from marathon, I need to put on muscle, so
- 28:16Speaker 2: I am tracking more recently how much I'm eating to
- 28:20Speaker 2: make sure I'm working towards my goals. Because I you know,
- 28:23Speaker 2: I don't have a I didn't have a huge eating disorder,
- 28:26Speaker 2: but I had that what they do refer to as
- 28:29Speaker 2: an eating disorder when I was a young, young male,
- 28:31Speaker 2: when all I do is hit the gym, and I
- 28:32Speaker 2: was conscious of what I was eating to the point
- 28:34Speaker 2: that I didn't go out to eat at nighttime because
- 28:36Speaker 2: I was concerned about what would be putting in my body.
- 28:39Speaker 2: And I wouldn't enjoy a time with my friends because
- 28:41Speaker 2: of that. So that that is an eating disorder, and
- 28:43Speaker 2: so that's very common these days, and particularly in young men.
- 28:47Speaker 2: Like they say, women are the ones that I have
- 28:49Speaker 2: in disorders, and that's probably more obvious because people are
- 28:51Speaker 2: more in tune whereas guys aren't so vocal about it.
- 28:55Speaker 2: But trying to take away that concept that numbers can
- 28:58Speaker 2: guide you, but they're not the be all end.
- 29:00Speaker 3: All, definitely.
- 29:01Speaker 4: And for those that don't know, can you just give
- 29:04Speaker 4: a quick explainer on what hierroarx is?
- 29:06Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
- 29:07Speaker 2: So high Rocks is a essentially a circuit style competition
- 29:12Speaker 2: where it's eight kilometers broken up into one kilometer interval
- 29:15Speaker 2: efforts followed by corresponding with eight discipline So there's eight disciplines,
- 29:20Speaker 2: eight kilometer efforts, eight one klmter efforts. And it's really
- 29:23Speaker 2: exciting because Censer, the company I work with, we just
- 29:26Speaker 2: Chris Hamsworth Fitness company. We just became the equipment partner,
- 29:29Speaker 2: so I do a lot of work with them. But
- 29:30Speaker 2: it's a sick competition. It's like anyone can get off
- 29:34Speaker 2: the couch and do this, and you can also be.
- 29:37Speaker 1: An elite right and do it. It's really really exciting.
- 29:40Speaker 4: I like how it's broken up It reminds me a
- 29:42Speaker 4: little bit of like old school what I would do
- 29:46Speaker 4: on like my cardiocentric CrossFit.
- 29:48Speaker 1: Is that's honestly it back in the day. You don't
- 29:51Speaker 1: do it anymore.
- 29:52Speaker 3: I haven't. I haven't done CrossFit and sometime.
- 29:55Speaker 4: But I am really getting back into Olympic weightlifting, which
- 29:58Speaker 4: is fun.
- 29:58Speaker 2: Let's see, what are you actually curious? After your limping hightlifting?
- 30:01Speaker 2: Where's your what's the first thing you need to do afterwards?
- 30:04Speaker 2: Like first thing you want to do?
- 30:06Speaker 3: The first thing I want to do. Well, the first
- 30:08Speaker 3: thing I do is.
- 30:09Speaker 4: When I'm done at the gym, I run home and
- 30:11Speaker 4: then I make a smoothie.
- 30:13Speaker 2: Do you want to make the smoothie or do you
- 30:14Speaker 2: think you need to make this movie.
- 30:16Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit of both.
- 30:17Speaker 4: I think it's important for me to make the smoothie,
- 30:19Speaker 4: and I also look forward to the smoothie. There's like
- 30:23Speaker 4: a smoothie bar in the gym that I specifically have
- 30:26Speaker 4: trained myself not to go to because it would be
- 30:29Speaker 4: so much easier to get there smoothie. But then I
- 30:32Speaker 4: walk home with this moothe when I'd rather just like
- 30:34Speaker 4: get that quick mile, be back and get my day started.
- 30:37Speaker 4: So for me, now I have gotten back into a
- 30:41Speaker 4: smoothie routine, which I haven't been in years, but I
- 30:43Speaker 4: enjoy it.
- 30:44Speaker 2: I really appreciate your intentionality with everything, dude.
- 30:47Speaker 4: The intentionality behind that is a it costs so much
- 30:50Speaker 4: more money to buy this smoothie at the gym, Although like,
- 30:53Speaker 4: there will be a time and a place where I'm
- 30:54Speaker 4: like today, I'm treating myself to a smoothie, especially when
- 30:57Speaker 4: I don't have somewhere to go. So if I'm going
- 30:58Speaker 4: to the gym on maybe a Sunday, that's a smoothie
- 31:00Speaker 4: opportunity versus the one that I like make myself when
- 31:03Speaker 4: I come home. But also I like seeing what's actually
- 31:07Speaker 4: going in. And although I totally respect and appreciate and
- 31:11Speaker 4: I'm sure that they're dialed into they're putting into this movie,
- 31:15Speaker 4: what they see, they're putting into this moothie, I just.
- 31:18Speaker 3: I like to do it myself.
- 31:19Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah.
- 31:20Speaker 2: I also, yeah, just being able to put your own
- 31:23Speaker 2: ingredients in, Yeah, it's empowering. But I will say a
- 31:26Speaker 2: lot of people tell me like, yeah, but there's so
- 31:28Speaker 2: many ingredients and like okay.
- 31:29Speaker 1: Cool, so I can with the hack you rease this
- 31:31Speaker 1: I'm ready for the hack.
- 31:32Speaker 2: So I go buy a bunch of what we call
- 31:35Speaker 2: essentially plant containers, which are two cups. We use them
- 31:38Speaker 2: at the restaurant to store, you know, ingredients. So you
- 31:42Speaker 2: get a bunch of those, and what you do is
- 31:45Speaker 2: you put all your ingredients bar the milk into them.
- 31:48Speaker 1: So say you make at the start of the week,
- 31:50Speaker 1: and you want to have your five.
- 31:51Speaker 2: Days of smoothies be five smoothies, so you make five
- 31:54Speaker 2: of these cork these plant containers, and it could be
- 31:56Speaker 2: like banana, blueberries, you spinach, you know whatever other greens
- 32:01Speaker 2: you put in there, and then you just go straight
- 32:03Speaker 2: to get home and you simply come out of the freezer,
- 32:05Speaker 2: put those in, maybe add your mix of seeds and nuts,
- 32:08Speaker 2: and then your milk and if protein's there as well.
- 32:10Speaker 2: So instead of having to undo every single thing, you
- 32:13Speaker 2: save so much more time by one day of the
- 32:16Speaker 2: week putting them all into your plant containers.
- 32:19Speaker 4: And it's better when the fruits are frozen. The smoothie
- 32:22Speaker 4: consistency is better. Can we also just like, okay, you
- 32:26Speaker 4: kind of just broke it down, but like on a
- 32:28Speaker 4: really granular level, let's break down if you're having a smoothie,
- 32:34Speaker 4: and I know it will differ based on maybe what
- 32:37Speaker 4: you're doing before you have the smoothie. But say someone's
- 32:40Speaker 4: doing a workout of some sort, they come home, They're like,
- 32:42Speaker 4: I want to have a smoothie because I know I
- 32:44Speaker 4: should be getting in my carbs, my healthy fats, my proteins.
- 32:47Speaker 3: Talk to me about what goes in an ideal smoothie.
- 32:50Speaker 2: Yeah, so again depending on everyone's goals and orientation. But
- 32:54Speaker 2: we'll just say, for like a foundational just energy. Yeah,
- 32:58Speaker 2: you know, all micronatures, all macronutrients are essential, So you
- 33:02Speaker 2: do want certain things coming out of a workout. You
- 33:05Speaker 2: probably want to have less fat because fat can slow
- 33:09Speaker 2: down your digestion process. So you know, for me, for example,
- 33:13Speaker 2: when I finish your workout, I'm trying to get carbs
- 33:15Speaker 2: and protein into my body. If I am having fats
- 33:18Speaker 2: let down that digestion process, it's going to affect the
- 33:21Speaker 2: speed in which my body can utilize those macronutrients of
- 33:24Speaker 2: carbs and protein. So what I mean by that is
- 33:27Speaker 2: I probably restrict the amount of nut butters that I
- 33:29Speaker 2: have because obviously it's you know, consistency of fat and
- 33:32Speaker 2: their same with avocado, I'd prefer to have that before
- 33:35Speaker 2: a workout, although not too heavy as well, given the
- 33:38Speaker 2: fact that people can't consume fat and then if they're
- 33:41Speaker 2: doing a big metcon affect their ability to sit in
- 33:45Speaker 2: their stomach, so post workout ideally, so I'd sit around
- 33:49Speaker 2: like fifty grams of carbohydrates. Reason for this is pretty simple.
- 33:54Speaker 2: A body can store sixty grams of certain forms of
- 33:59Speaker 2: glucose and then an additional you know, thirty of fuctos.
- 34:02Speaker 2: So you're like looking at ninety is what you can
- 34:04Speaker 2: maximize per hour right at the time. So they used
- 34:08Speaker 2: to just be thinking sixty was enough, and then we
- 34:10Speaker 2: realized there was another thirty of a different type of
- 34:14Speaker 2: you know, I guess in this case sugar can kind
- 34:16Speaker 2: of un unlock. But I'd say for the majority of
- 34:19Speaker 2: people coming out of a workout male female, fifty to
- 34:23Speaker 2: sixty grams is sufficient. If someone who's doing a serious workout,
- 34:26Speaker 2: you want to go to the upper echelon of like
- 34:28Speaker 2: ninety you know, protein wise, I'd say around thirty to
- 34:32Speaker 2: forty grams realistic, And then you know, you want to
- 34:35Speaker 2: minimize your fat to like no more in my opinion
- 34:38Speaker 2: of like five grams.
- 34:39Speaker 3: Gotcha, And from like a visual POV.
- 34:42Speaker 4: If we're talking about using fruit as that carbohydrates finished
- 34:46Speaker 4: as that carbohydrate.
- 34:47Speaker 3: We're talking about like a cup, right.
- 34:49Speaker 2: Yeah, one, So like if you were to feel one
- 34:52Speaker 2: of those pint containers, it's you know, you should see
- 34:56Speaker 2: if you looked at it from the side on one
- 34:58Speaker 2: third of it free. So let's say bit of for
- 35:00Speaker 2: a cop of ingredients got finished with milk saper choice.
- 35:03Speaker 1: Yeah.
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- 36:51Speaker 4: The other thing I wanted to double click on from
- 36:53Speaker 4: before was you said a really beautiful term which I
- 36:56Speaker 4: think we should elaborate on, and that is a diversity
- 37:00Speaker 4: of plants. What does it mean to have a diversity
- 37:03Speaker 4: of plants in your diet?
- 37:04Speaker 3: And what did that look like?
- 37:06Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's two things to kind of note here
- 37:08Speaker 2: ones like more exciting to me because of a chef.
- 37:10Speaker 2: The other side of it is more exciting just for
- 37:12Speaker 2: people who are in the science space. But colors have
- 37:17Speaker 2: a relationship. Colors in food have a relationship with obviously pigments,
- 37:21Speaker 2: and the pigmentation themselves has a relationship with nutritional value.
- 37:26Speaker 2: So certain colors have certain types of micronutrients that respond
- 37:30Speaker 2: to certain receptors in our body. Similarly, though, certain types
- 37:34Speaker 2: of colors and the more dense they are, have more flavor,
- 37:38Speaker 2: so for me, that's why the flavor is exciting. What's
- 37:40Speaker 2: important to understand is if you're only getting one type
- 37:43Speaker 2: of color, you're only getting one type of micronutrient. So
- 37:46Speaker 2: if you're only getting if you smashed beet roots all week,
- 37:51Speaker 2: it's not a good thing. People like say, you know,
- 37:53Speaker 2: having chocolates too much bad for you. It is having
- 37:56Speaker 2: too much beetch It would be bad for you too.
- 37:58Speaker 2: Not only will your bathroom look like it's been painted
- 38:00Speaker 2: purple everywhere, but you're just not getting enough of the diversity.
- 38:04Speaker 1: Now. The reason for this is important.
- 38:06Speaker 2: If you have a diversity of plants, you are helping
- 38:11Speaker 2: support a diversity of microbes within you. Now doctor B
- 38:15Speaker 2: talks about the importance of diversity in the microbiome. So
- 38:19Speaker 2: you know, for every form of microbiome, there's a specific
- 38:22Speaker 2: dietary fiber that helps look after it for it's consume
- 38:26Speaker 2: to then create what's called a post biotic. So simply put,
- 38:29Speaker 2: if you have a variety of plants, you are eating
- 38:34Speaker 2: a variety of micro nutrients, which means you are feeding
- 38:37Speaker 2: a variety of your microbiome. And I love avengers. I
- 38:43Speaker 2: also love sporting analogies. But Tom Brady is the goat, right,
- 38:49Speaker 2: But if I only fed my body enough to create
- 38:52Speaker 2: Tom Brady's, his offensive line would not allow him to
- 38:56Speaker 2: be awesome because he can't block, you know. So my
- 38:59Speaker 2: point is you want to make sure you get a
- 39:00Speaker 2: full team to look after your insights. And that is
- 39:03Speaker 2: where having a variety of greens, yellows, reds, even blues
- 39:08Speaker 2: is so important. So then you can talk about the function.
- 39:11Speaker 2: So the post body function has a lot to do
- 39:14Speaker 2: with the connection between your gut and the brain directly
- 39:18Speaker 2: through something called the vagus nerve. And I won't go
- 39:22Speaker 2: into too detail on this, but simply put, just know
- 39:25Speaker 2: that if you're involving your brain in anything, it is
- 39:30Speaker 2: the central area for cognition and so many other aspects.
- 39:34Speaker 2: So to look after that performance, you have to look
- 39:37Speaker 2: after your second brain, which is the gut connected to
- 39:40Speaker 2: your first brain, the brain, and a lot of that
- 39:43Speaker 2: is to do by eating enough plants and a variety
- 39:46Speaker 2: of that.
- 39:46Speaker 3: We love it. We love plants.
- 39:48Speaker 1: We do love plant. Are you getting enough plants?
- 39:50Speaker 3: I hope I'm getting enough plants. I like plants.
- 39:53Speaker 4: I mean between in the morning, I'm doing well, not plants,
- 39:56Speaker 4: but in the morning, well, yes, plants. I'm doing some
- 39:59Speaker 4: fruits and usually some sort of an omelet with like
- 40:02Speaker 4: different veggies in it. Lunch is always some sort of
- 40:04Speaker 4: a salad with like some sort of a protein in it.
- 40:07Speaker 4: I'm like a big and then of course that's smoothie
- 40:09Speaker 4: after I go to the gym. So I'm always finding
- 40:11Speaker 4: a way to mix plants into the mix. Yes see, yeah,
- 40:14Speaker 4: that should be thanks dude. Yeah, we're working on it.
- 40:18Speaker 4: Beyond the things that you've mentioned here, knowing specifically what's
- 40:22Speaker 4: good for you and your body, nixing refined sugars, and
- 40:25Speaker 4: also making sure that you're getting in enough plants. I
- 40:29Speaker 4: want to also touch on the importance of hydration when
- 40:33Speaker 4: it comes to eating like a legend, aka also drinking
- 40:36Speaker 4: like a legend. Why is it important that we also
- 40:40Speaker 4: center around hydration when we're thinking about performing optimally.
- 40:44Speaker 2: Yeah, so particularly, i'd say electrolytes to having that moment.
- 40:48Speaker 2: A lot of it's through the fact that running so cool.
- 40:51Speaker 2: And I will have a caveat in saying like when
- 40:54Speaker 2: I say we don't consume enough sodium in our day,
- 40:57Speaker 2: I will say that is those people who are not
- 41:01Speaker 2: consuming prepared packaged foods. Recently, as a New York Times
- 41:06Speaker 2: article talked about sodium and it gave you like a quiz,
- 41:09Speaker 2: like ten part quiz and a look at two different
- 41:12Speaker 2: types of meals, and I asked you which one had
- 41:15Speaker 2: more sodiuminim and you'd be surprised about, like particularly those
- 41:19Speaker 2: with packaged foods, how much sodium is in them. But
- 41:23Speaker 2: if you are not consuming packaged foods, you'll be some
- 41:27Speaker 2: and you're doing a lot of particularly long endurance efforts,
- 41:29Speaker 2: you'll need to consume electrolytes on top of the hydration.
- 41:33Speaker 2: Now is because a two percent dehydration or two percent
- 41:37Speaker 2: just two percent dehydration will lead to a detriment in
- 41:39Speaker 2: your performance cognitively and physically, so you know, probably talking
- 41:44Speaker 2: specifically around running right now, or just any endurance effort.
- 41:49Speaker 2: We sweat and we lose anywhere between three point fifty
- 41:52Speaker 2: to seven hundred milligrams or soon in per hour of work.
- 41:56Speaker 1: I'm a heavy sweater, I.
- 41:57Speaker 3: Need tell you. Yeah, dude, and I'm a heavy salt sweater.
- 42:00Speaker 1: There you go.
- 42:01Speaker 4: Yeah, I've had like my sweat analyzed before and I'm
- 42:03Speaker 4: like a very salty sweater.
- 42:05Speaker 2: So you can get as you've just noted, you can
- 42:07Speaker 2: get sweat tested to give you a quantitative understanding of use.
- 42:11Speaker 2: That's one way you can do this. If you don't
- 42:13Speaker 2: want to go that, but you know you've noted, I.
- 42:15Speaker 4: Think GETORID has at home sweat test kits as well,
- 42:19Speaker 4: Like I don't think that you need to go to
- 42:21Speaker 4: a lab, Like I don't want people listening to this
- 42:23Speaker 4: to be like, how the hell is someone like me
- 42:25Speaker 4: going to get sweat tested? Yeah, I'm pretty sure you
- 42:27Speaker 4: can literally google one on Amazon.
- 42:29Speaker 1: Sure.
- 42:29Speaker 3: Yeah, well there you got fun fact.
- 42:31Speaker 1: Fun fact.
- 42:31Speaker 2: So you know, you can obviously get quantitatively tested, but
- 42:34Speaker 2: then you can know what spectrum you want. And for me,
- 42:38Speaker 2: it's like, I know I sweat so much, so I
- 42:40Speaker 2: need to consume seven hundred milligrams of sodium per hour
- 42:44Speaker 2: of work that put in. So I did an hour
- 42:46Speaker 2: and a half workout this morning. So just for me
- 42:49Speaker 2: to maintain that, I probably have to have around one
- 42:51Speaker 2: point two, you know, twelve hundred milligrams of sodium and
- 42:56Speaker 2: or electrolytes in general, because I don't want to detriment.
- 42:59Speaker 1: I don't want to detriment my performance.
- 43:01Speaker 2: So important to do so, like we hear about the
- 43:04Speaker 2: importance of fluid for you know, skin, our hair, you know,
- 43:08Speaker 2: gone back to it, like we've got to remember that
- 43:10Speaker 2: it's for everything we talk about performance, cognitive and physical,
- 43:14Speaker 2: and so, you know, if you're not taking one of
- 43:16Speaker 2: those amazing Stanley cups, have you got.
- 43:18Speaker 1: A Stanley cup?
- 43:19Speaker 3: A Stanley cup?
- 43:20Speaker 1: Have you don't got a Stanley Cup?
- 43:21Speaker 3: Oh? Oh, I'm not like, I'm sorry.
- 43:23Speaker 4: I literally heard you say that, Dan, and I thought
- 43:26Speaker 4: you were asking me if I had like a hockey
- 43:29Speaker 4: Stanley cup, and I was like, I am unsure why
- 43:32Speaker 4: I would have this Stanley actually my apartment, but you're
- 43:35Speaker 4: asking me if I have the Stanley like TikTok cup,
- 43:39Speaker 4: like the drinking cup. No, I don't, you know, why
- 43:41Speaker 4: because I drink out of this fellow like refillable bottle.
- 43:46Speaker 4: It looks so much more sleek to me, and like
- 43:49Speaker 4: I just couldn't. It's so big. I work hard enough,
- 43:52Speaker 4: Like why do I need to work out carrying my
- 43:54Speaker 4: bottle around my apartment?
- 43:55Speaker 2: It is?
- 43:56Speaker 1: It is obnoxiously live.
- 43:57Speaker 3: It's so big.
- 43:58Speaker 4: I mean appreciation and no hate to the Stanley girlies.
- 44:01Speaker 4: I respect your hydration hustle. Sorry, I was very confused
- 44:06Speaker 4: there for a moment.
- 44:07Speaker 1: I you know, it's funny.
- 44:08Speaker 2: I said the same thing to my mate he lives
- 44:10Speaker 2: in Brooklyn, and he's like, no, but I've had the
- 44:12Speaker 2: actual Stanley cup at my place.
- 44:14Speaker 1: Oh wow, and he's super humble, Mike. It's like pretty cool.
- 44:17Speaker 1: Flex flex Yeah, yeah, it's really really cool.
- 44:20Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just say like, in general, make sure
- 44:23Speaker 2: that you're drinking sufficient fluid on top of the electrolytes
- 44:27Speaker 2: you are having. And people say, what's that, it's like, well,
- 44:29Speaker 2: people say eight cups. It's more like in my pin ten.
- 44:33Speaker 2: But it also depends on you as an individual. You're
- 44:36Speaker 2: weighing your mass and you can just look that up.
- 44:38Speaker 2: It's pretty simple.
- 44:39Speaker 4: I always also tell people to meet themselves with where
- 44:42Speaker 4: they're at when it comes to setting hydration goals, because
- 44:45Speaker 4: I think at least I can speak from personal experience
- 44:47Speaker 4: that I've had very aspirational hydration goals in the past
- 44:51Speaker 4: that aren't very realistic for where I'm beginning. So, just
- 44:55Speaker 4: like with any other goal, that you can set a
- 44:57Speaker 4: smart goal when it comes to your hydration. If you're
- 45:00Speaker 4: now sitting at home, I'm staring at this Dike coke Caine,
- 45:03Speaker 4: You're having like three diet cokes a day and you're
- 45:05Speaker 4: not drinking any water. For us to tell you that
- 45:08Speaker 4: you should start drinking ten cups of water a day,
- 45:10Speaker 4: that's not going to be a realistic goal for you
- 45:13Speaker 4: where you are in this moment.
- 45:15Speaker 3: So maybe a more.
- 45:16Speaker 4: Specific, measurable, attainable, relevant, time bound goal for you is
- 45:19Speaker 4: I'm going to start drinking three to four cups of
- 45:22Speaker 4: water per day and begin there, and then once you
- 45:26Speaker 4: get that into some sort of a routine, whether that
- 45:29Speaker 4: takes two weeks or a month, then you can up
- 45:31Speaker 4: that threshold. You don't want to set a goal that's
- 45:34Speaker 4: going to set you up for a failure.
- 45:36Speaker 2: Mate, one hundred percent, once again, get the reps in
- 45:39Speaker 2: like you, I'll tell you firsthand. I've gone all in
- 45:44Speaker 2: on hitting a number from scratch and I just couldn't
- 45:48Speaker 2: stop paying and like that affected my sleep. It affected
- 45:51Speaker 2: my performance because I couldn't like I couldn't focus on
- 45:53Speaker 2: a task. You know, I had a very felt like
- 45:56Speaker 2: a small bladder. So progressively get into a place where
- 45:59Speaker 2: you meat way you are exactly meet.
- 46:01Speaker 3: Yourself with where you're at.
- 46:03Speaker 4: Also, to come back and circle back on what we
- 46:05Speaker 4: were talking about, Gatorade sells a g X sweat patch.
- 46:08Speaker 4: It's seven point fifty on their website and literally it
- 46:12Speaker 4: connects to an app and you can learn all of
- 46:15Speaker 4: this data about your body, fluid loss, sweat rate, the
- 46:18Speaker 4: consistency of your sweat.
- 46:20Speaker 3: I mean, that's pretty rad.
- 46:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a massive fan of guiderde in general,
- 46:24Speaker 2: but that's pretty cool.
- 46:25Speaker 1: And know that I can have that, Yeah.
- 46:27Speaker 3: No, And I will also say for me hydration.
- 46:30Speaker 4: Over the last few years, as I've learned more about
- 46:32Speaker 4: my body, aleard that I'm a really salty sweater has
- 46:34Speaker 4: really been rooted in consumption of electrolytes.
- 46:37Speaker 3: Element is a partner of the show.
- 46:39Speaker 4: Also, I recently switched to using regular milk back in
- 46:44Speaker 4: my smoothies. And like ditch the almond milk just because
- 46:47Speaker 4: the almond milk wasn't really.
- 46:48Speaker 3: Giving me a lot of bang for my buck.
- 46:51Speaker 4: And candidly, I'm fortunate because regular milk doesn't mess with
- 46:55Speaker 4: my stomach. I know that a lot of people we
- 46:57Speaker 4: talked about knowing your body and knowing what feels right
- 47:00Speaker 4: for you.
- 47:00Speaker 3: Regular milk feels right for me.
- 47:02Speaker 4: But again, everyone to each their own and think these
- 47:04Speaker 4: electrolyte focus and being really dialed in on how I
- 47:07Speaker 4: can integrate that into my regular day to day has
- 47:10Speaker 4: served me really well.
- 47:11Speaker 1: One hundred percent.
- 47:12Speaker 2: Mate.
- 47:12Speaker 1: You listen to yourself and that's this is how you progress.
- 47:15Speaker 3: This is how you progress.
- 47:16Speaker 1: Bring back the move.
- 47:18Speaker 4: Bring back the Moo movement for the moo. Well, Dan,
- 47:22Speaker 4: this book looks amazing. You've given some really amazing tips
- 47:26Speaker 4: when it comes to leveling up and quote unquote eating
- 47:29Speaker 4: like a legend. Is there anything and I'm talking I
- 47:32Speaker 4: know we could talk for hours, but any other big
- 47:35Speaker 4: tip that you want to hand me when it comes
- 47:37Speaker 4: to dialing in on mental and physical performance within your diet.
- 47:41Speaker 2: Look, I think the biggest thing we face in the
- 47:45Speaker 2: space of cooking at home is people find either intimidating
- 47:51Speaker 2: or you know, the time, maybe the cost. But bringing
- 47:55Speaker 2: it back full circle once again to get in the
- 47:57Speaker 2: reps in I can first hand tell you, as a
- 48:00Speaker 2: professional chef with my name on a restaurant, I screw
- 48:04Speaker 2: up the first recipe more often than not because I'm
- 48:08Speaker 2: trialing an error like that's what happens. But unfortunately people
- 48:13Speaker 2: don't have the patience typically to do the same thing.
- 48:17Speaker 2: So if I gave everyone the task of cooking a
- 48:19Speaker 2: recipe from my book every Tuesday night for the next
- 48:23Speaker 2: three weeks, the first one would be the most expensive,
- 48:26Speaker 2: it would take the most time, and it will be
- 48:29Speaker 2: the most challenging physically. But by the third time you're
- 48:33Speaker 2: doing it, you'll be the cheapest. You'll know exactly where
- 48:36Speaker 2: everything is in your kitchen, you've already bought most of
- 48:38Speaker 2: the ingredients, and you'll known the first two times how
- 48:42Speaker 2: you actually need to get between the kitchen to save time.
- 48:46Speaker 2: So if you apply the same principles, you could make
- 48:49Speaker 2: washing up so efficient not time consuming. And I do
- 48:53Speaker 2: say that, like everything's about cooking is time consuming. Some
- 48:56Speaker 2: dishes take two hours to cook, but only take ten
- 49:00Speaker 2: minutes of your time on the tools. So yeah, I
- 49:05Speaker 2: just say, like, get the reps in and give yourself
- 49:07Speaker 2: a challenge of cooking the same meal for the next
- 49:09Speaker 2: three weeks every Tuesday night, start at like six thirty.
- 49:13Speaker 2: Give yourself the time, and you be surprised over the
- 49:15Speaker 2: next three weeks.
- 49:16Speaker 3: I love that.
- 49:17Speaker 4: I love cooking, and I really do use it as
- 49:20Speaker 4: a stress reliever. I just need to like highlight some
- 49:23Speaker 4: of the recipes in this book. I'm gonna speak real
- 49:24Speaker 4: quick chickpea curry with roasted sweet potato and dil yogurt,
- 49:28Speaker 4: almond crusted spiced chicken with secret weapon tofu Ioli. Wait,
- 49:32Speaker 4: I'm still going. Oh, there's a no time to cook
- 49:35Speaker 4: section twelve minutes to shakshuka.
- 49:37Speaker 1: Heaven.
- 49:37Speaker 4: I love shak shuka. I try to do shak shuka Sundays.
- 49:40Speaker 4: One minute miso salmon with easy, perfect back choy. Yes please,
- 49:45Speaker 4: I mean, oh, there's a whole chapter on how to
- 49:48Speaker 4: impress a girl orguy dot dot dot or friends. I'm
- 49:51Speaker 4: telling you, this book has a lot of good stuff
- 49:53Speaker 4: in here. I'm so excited for you, truly, I can't
- 49:56Speaker 4: be more amped. I'll put the link to the book
- 49:58Speaker 4: in the show notes. For those of you you don't
- 50:00Speaker 4: follow along with Dan just yet. Dan, give us your
- 50:03Speaker 4: info and tell us how they could do so.
- 50:05Speaker 2: Yeah, so best way to look as you know, just
- 50:07Speaker 2: my name Dan Churchill, whether it be website, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube.
- 50:11Speaker 1: And it's Father's Day and Mother's Day coming.
- 50:14Speaker 2: Up, so there's a great way to either pick a
- 50:17Speaker 2: book for a friend, a mother, a father, or if
- 50:21Speaker 2: you just want a guy to cook for you, just
- 50:24Speaker 2: pick the book up and hand it to him and
- 50:25Speaker 2: see what happens.
- 50:27Speaker 3: Invest in yourself awesome.
- 50:28Speaker 4: I'm over at Emily a Body at Hurdle podcast Another
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- 50:33Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.