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Publix Tailgate Show: Spero Dedes, CBS Sports · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Gonna talk to you again, Spirol. Here we are in
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  Speaker 1: week twelve. Somehow, I know, God, it's it's flown by.
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  Speaker 1: Good to be with you, JP. Happy Thanksgiving to you
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  Speaker 1: and UH and to all your listeners as well. Same
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  Speaker 1: to you, and I appreciate your time. Where have you
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  Speaker 1: been the last few weeks since we spoke? Oh? Man,
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  Speaker 1: got these weeks all blend together? Uh? We were Jacksonville
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. We got We've had you
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  Speaker 1: guys a ton um, which is always a pleasure to
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  Speaker 1: come to, uh, to Florida, and especially as we get
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  Speaker 1: into the winter months. But you know, we've bounced around,
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  Speaker 1: We've done a ton of Cincinnati. We have the the
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  Speaker 1: unfortunate experience of of doing the Cincinnati game last week
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  Speaker 1: and which, of course Joe Burrow went down with that
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  Speaker 1: just awful injury and it was just such a tragic
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  Speaker 1: way for his season to end. And uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: tough to be Bengals fan. You you've been searching for
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback for years and years and you finally have
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  Speaker 1: your stud and it's all gone good from that position standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: and then he goes down. So just a brutal sport
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  Speaker 1: unforgiving sport, as you know, but um, you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: just it's just the NFL. You know, some weeks you
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  Speaker 1: get eight games, other weeks you you have to see
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  Speaker 1: something like that. And it's what makes this game so
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  Speaker 1: emotional and and exciting at times and exasperating and all
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  Speaker 1: of the above. So it's been a great year. It's
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  Speaker 1: been a wild year, of course, unlike any other, unprecedented
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  Speaker 1: in so many ways. And we're just happy to be here.
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  Speaker 1: And man, you know, like you and like everyone around
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  Speaker 1: the league, we're just hoping that we can get through
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  Speaker 1: it and get you know, get to the super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: and everything kind of goes off. I was gonna say,
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  Speaker 1: without a hitch, but just get to the finish line.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just get to the end of the season and
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  Speaker 1: then figure out the playoffs from there. You mentioned the
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati quarterback issue. Of course, they're and and and horrible
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  Speaker 1: to see. Let's transition to the Jaguars quarterback situation now. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Jake Luten through four interceptions last week and just didn't
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  Speaker 1: seem to have it together. It's a tough defense of
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  Speaker 1: the fits for Steelers, of course, but head coach Jack
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  Speaker 1: Moone this week decided to make a change and Mike glennon,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get us first start since twenty seventeen Week four
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  Speaker 1: with the Bears against the Packers that year. It's been
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  Speaker 1: a little while, but that's the state of affairs. You're
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  Speaker 1: in Jacksonville now with Gardner still trying to throw and
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  Speaker 1: figure out the thumb issue. They're trying to give Jake
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  Speaker 1: Luton a little time away. What can we expect from
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  Speaker 1: Mike glenn And I think is the big question, and
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  Speaker 1: it might be a reason why he hasn't started in
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  Speaker 1: a few years. It feels like, yeah, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: think you're getting to the point now in his season
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  Speaker 1: when you're Doug Morone for a team, obviously that is
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  Speaker 1: just kind of playing out the string where you have
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  Speaker 1: to start to make these tough decisions. And I guess
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  Speaker 1: part of me was surprised that that he would make
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  Speaker 1: this change now. Um, but you know, look, this is
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  Speaker 1: this is why being a head coach is so difficult,
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  Speaker 1: and and Doug has had to deal with so many injuries. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, obviously with the pandemic like every other team.
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  Speaker 1: Now he's got some assistant coaches he's gonna be without.
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  Speaker 1: This is it's a really tough spot for him. And
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  Speaker 1: and Doug knows his team, and he knows the pulse
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  Speaker 1: of his team better than anyone, and he feels like
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  Speaker 1: it's a good time to allow Jake Lewton to maybe
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  Speaker 1: step back and evaluate what he's seen, what he's experienced
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  Speaker 1: these last three weeks, uh, and and go from there.
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  Speaker 1: And look, you know, Mike Glennon deserves this chance. He's
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  Speaker 1: done everything the coaching staff has asked him to do.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a reason why he has been where
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  Speaker 1: he's been, and he hasn't had a frontline job the
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  Speaker 1: last couple of years. And and this is his chance
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  Speaker 1: to maybe catch you on, not just with this team,
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  Speaker 1: but but one of the other teams around the league.
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  Speaker 1: And and he's got to perform now. Um, it's difficult
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  Speaker 1: to do that when you've got injuries in front of
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  Speaker 1: you and you're playing with a very young supporting cast,
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  Speaker 1: as we know is the case with this Jacksonville team.
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  Speaker 1: And and we'll see what the future has in store
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  Speaker 1: for him and also for Jake Lewton. You know, at
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  Speaker 1: my partner and I, Adam Arceiletta, were in Jacksonville for
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  Speaker 1: the Houston game for Jake's first game, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: we watched him have that very early success, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the long touchdown pass I think on the second or
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  Speaker 1: third attempt, and we kind of looked at each other
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  Speaker 1: and said, man, you know, maybe there's something with this kid,
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  Speaker 1: and of course lo and behold it. It kind of
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  Speaker 1: went south on him there quickly. But um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think this spells the end by any stretch
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  Speaker 1: for Jake. I think there's a lot of good air.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's got the great frame, and he looks
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  Speaker 1: like a legit quarterback prospect, and maybe this is a
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  Speaker 1: chance for him to catch his breath and and to
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  Speaker 1: learn some things and to move that step forward. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, that'll be that'll remain to be seen here
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  Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks, in the next couple
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  Speaker 1: of years. I think it's obvious. The big picture here
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  Speaker 1: is they're going quarterback earlier in the draft, no matter
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  Speaker 1: who's making the decision. I think that has been determined
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  Speaker 1: over the last few weeks around here that you know,
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  Speaker 1: he just can't put a franchise on these guys shoulders,
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  Speaker 1: at least right now. So that's for an offseason conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Sparreroudidas with a CBS Sports. Now on offense, we stay
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  Speaker 1: with a bright spot. We'll get to all the COVID
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  Speaker 1: issues coming up on defense. But James Robinson has been
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  Speaker 1: fantastic obviously continues to build. He's over a thousand scrimmage
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  Speaker 1: yards this year. You know, he has about a hundred
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  Speaker 1: and seventy two rush attempts this year, only eleven of
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  Speaker 1: those are for negative yardage Bureau. This guy always gets forward,
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  Speaker 1: he always falls ahead, he's finding a crease. He's hard
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  Speaker 1: to hit. And for an undrafted guy to have that
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  Speaker 1: kind of skill set and vision, I don't think I've
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  Speaker 1: seen that in a long time. And it's really if
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  Speaker 1: Now I know they're one at nine, but if they
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  Speaker 1: didn't have James Robinson, where would this offense be. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's such a great story. And and I think when
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  Speaker 1: you really examine James Robinson and his entire football career
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  Speaker 1: high school, uh, collegiately at Illinois State, he he has
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  Speaker 1: had success and he's excelled really at every level. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think the people that know James Robinson
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  Speaker 1: the best, his family is certainly his his ex teammates,
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  Speaker 1: his coaches at the high school level, and and brocks
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  Speaker 1: back in that entire staff at Illinois State. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they're really surprised deep down, you know, we we
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  Speaker 1: had a chance, We had a couple of chances now
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  Speaker 1: to speak with him via zoom. And he's just a
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  Speaker 1: really diligent, hard working kid who I think has had
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  Speaker 1: to earn every opportunity he's gotten, you know, lightly recruited
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  Speaker 1: out of high school. I think Iowa was the only
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  Speaker 1: really major collegiate a him that took a look at him,
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  Speaker 1: and it was very light interest before they kind of
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  Speaker 1: backed away for whatever reasons, and obviously undrafted into the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: he had to earn his way onto a roster spot.
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  Speaker 1: And sometimes those guys are the hungriest prospects that you
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  Speaker 1: find and you get, you know, sometimes the high picks
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  Speaker 1: who who flame out quickly. UM and And I don't
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  Speaker 1: think there's anything about this kid that tells us that
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be the case. And then you start
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  Speaker 1: to break down his numbers JP, it's just it's it's
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  Speaker 1: amazing what he's been able to do UM on really
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  Speaker 1: limited opportunities. You know, behind an offensive line that's had
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  Speaker 1: the issues up front, they don't have a ton around
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  Speaker 1: UM around the running back position is just a lot
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  Speaker 1: of youth on this team, So so defense is now
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  Speaker 1: knowing the success that he's had, they're able to to
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  Speaker 1: key on him a little bit more. But as you said,
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  Speaker 1: he's just able to churn out that yardage even on
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  Speaker 1: players that are breaking down. He always seems to fall forward,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, And there's just very little about this
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  Speaker 1: kid not to like. And and I think he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be around for a long time. I think he's he's
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  Speaker 1: a building block for this franchise that's really searching right
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  Speaker 1: now for who they're gonna try to build this offense
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  Speaker 1: around over the next couple of years. Spiro Detas with
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  Speaker 1: a CBS Sports has the call of the Browns Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: game today. Let's flip it to the defense. There were
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  Speaker 1: issues anyway, of course, because they haven't been playing well
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the year. There's been a couple of
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  Speaker 1: bright spots. Miles Jack has some moments this year, but
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  Speaker 1: now they're injury issues. Josh Allen's done for an extended period.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like no ligament damage in the knee. That's
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  Speaker 1: the good news. A bunch of the secondary guys are down.
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  Speaker 1: Sydney Jones. C. J. Henderson is on I R. You're
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  Speaker 1: digging deep down the well to get some cornerbacks on
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  Speaker 1: the field this week and then throw on top of
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  Speaker 1: all that Spireau. But the coaching staff all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden has COVID nineteen issues three defensive coaches earlier in
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  Speaker 1: the week. We're not allowed to go to the practice
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  Speaker 1: field and they won't be allowed at the game today.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lot of games for a defense that was
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  Speaker 1: struggling already, and they've got the monumental task of trying
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  Speaker 1: to slow down this Browns running game today and that's
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  Speaker 1: a lot to ask. With everything that's happened, it's unreal.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I'm a big Doug Marone fan. I
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  Speaker 1: know he's he's taking his lumps from the media, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, some of it rightfully. So when you don't
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  Speaker 1: win in this league, you're gonna you're gonna, you know,
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  Speaker 1: be the butt of of a lot of criticism. But
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  Speaker 1: we've we've had a chance to meet with him a ton.
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  Speaker 1: We we've done so many Jaguars games over the years,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, we've we've become big fans of his.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're Doug Moron, you just have to throw
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  Speaker 1: your hands up at this point it say, you know
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  Speaker 1: what else could go wrong? Right? I mean, obviously it's
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  Speaker 1: a pandemic, and every team is having to deal with
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  Speaker 1: with COVID cases and and losing coaches. H just last
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  Speaker 1: week we had the Bengals and their defensive coordinator lu
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  Speaker 1: and A Rumo was down two or three assistants, so
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  Speaker 1: he's having to coach the dbs on the sideline in
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  Speaker 1: between defensive series. Everyone's having to adjust. But it just
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  Speaker 1: seemed is like Jacksonville and this defense has, you know,
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  Speaker 1: has just been behind the eight ball right from the snap.
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  Speaker 1: And and I think you know, every team has been
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  Speaker 1: able to deal with the challenges and logistical issues with
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  Speaker 1: the pandemic differently based on how their teams are built.
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  Speaker 1: And I think we all knew because of this Jacksonville
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  Speaker 1: team being so young and inexperienced, they were gonna struggle
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  Speaker 1: without having the traditional offseason, you know, no t O
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  Speaker 1: t A is, no rookie camps, no preseason games, really
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  Speaker 1: the time where young rookie, first, second, and even third
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  Speaker 1: year players really get acclimated. And it's it's affected them,
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  Speaker 1: maybe more than some of the other more veteran teams
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  Speaker 1: around the league, and now I think they're really going
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  Speaker 1: to struggle here down the stretch. You know, you're having
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  Speaker 1: to play guys that have gotten very little reps, very
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  Speaker 1: little snaps in games, and and now suddenly you're without
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  Speaker 1: your defensive coordinator and some of your leading defensive assistance.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a very very challenging day and the
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  Speaker 1: next couple of weeks as they try to close the
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  Speaker 1: season and and desperately try to build on something positively.
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  Speaker 1: Be careful when you ask what else could go wrong?
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  Speaker 1: You just might find out, and I think the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: have done that this year. I appreciate your time. I
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  Speaker 1: have a great call today and we'll talk to you
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  Speaker 1: again down the line here soon. Thanks JP, I appreciate it.