Latest / My Third Place Pod / Episode 172 - Cobra Kai S3E2 Nature vs Nurture
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- 0:15We are back again to my third place pod here on my Third Place
- 0:19Network. Welcome back to the Dojo as we
- 0:22continue to chop down season three of Kurobra Kai on Netflix.
- 0:28See what it is there? Chop.
- 0:36You really embrace 1 Dingray character.
- 0:39I'm Brandy. Yeah, yeah, I'm a gaggy versus
- 0:49fans, as always. As must be said on every
- 0:51episode, because we're always critiquing the show.
- 0:54We love Corporate Kai. We love The Karate Kid universe
- 0:58but don't let us influence you on the show.
- 1:01We're just fans of the show as there are millions of other fans
- 1:04out there who have different opinions, ours included.
- 1:08So if you heard of the breakdown episode of the past or if you're
- 1:11new here, we are Massive Karate Kid and Corporate High fan.
- 1:14So we decided we're going to re watch the shows on Netflix and
- 1:17breakdown the episode seen by Steen and tell you what we
- 1:20thought about them. You are more than welcome to
- 1:22follow along and we watch the show for us as some of our
- 1:25friends are doing and listen to podcasts as well.
- 1:27There will be spoilers and at times we do tend to add in
- 1:30trivia or ask a question for you to ponder over.
- 1:32It's what we do here. If you want to go back and
- 1:34listen to past episodes about Cobra Kai and what we thought
- 1:37about them as you get to go back and listen to episode 154154 and
- 1:43then continue on from there and let us know what you thought
- 1:46about them. All right, Episode 2, Nature
- 1:50versus nurture, directed by Hurwitz and Schlossberg.
- 1:53I don't even need to say their names anymore.
- 1:55It's like last names. Now we know who they are.
- 1:59John Hurwitz, Joe Hayden, Hayden Schlossberg.
- 2:02See, I'm I apologize already written by Joe Pyroulli and Luan
- 2:07Thomas. Cypnosis, Daniel and Johnny team
- 2:11up to find Robbie. Miguel face an uncertain
- 2:13feature. Chris tries to bring Tori back
- 2:16to corporate high. Oh, we are going back in time.
- 2:21Cold open in 1965 in the San Fernando Valley.
- 2:26David and James, along with David's girlfriend Betsy, exit a
- 2:31car and go into a diner with Woolly Bully playing in the
- 2:35background. Woolly Bully.
- 2:38Woolly Bully that the words of the song is that it pretty much
- 2:44OK. James is played by Ken Barefield
- 2:48who is a stunt coordinator and stunt performer based out of
- 2:50Atlanta, GA. He was part of the MTV reality
- 2:53TV show 2A Days in the high school.
- 2:56He has done stunts for the Magnificent 7 and Jungle Cruise.
- 3:00Betsy is played by Emily Marie Palmer, Actress and singer
- 3:05appears on two episodes of Kobra Kai.
- 3:07So we will be seeing her again and she has appeared on 10
- 3:10episodes of Mercy St. as Sister Isabella and finally the varsity
- 3:16Captain David, played by Jessie Cove, the son of Martin Cove.
- 3:24When he was only 10 years old, Jessie would create movies using
- 3:27his father's video camera. He has recently Co starred
- 3:30alongside Joseph Fiennes in the highly anticipated World War Two
- 3:33drama On Wings of Eagle, the unofficial sequel to Share It Of
- 3:37Fire. I hope we get David's facial
- 3:43expressions just like his dad. No, no.
- 3:48Who? OK who?
- 3:51What character are you talking about?
- 3:53Does he play? Varsity captain.
- 3:56The one that comes out for his other car, David and his Betsy.
- 4:01Betsy's boyfriend. OK, they come with a car that
- 4:05looks exactly like the banana boat that Daniel has from his
- 4:0870th birthday. They made a point to show the
- 4:11plate number which was 260 V 5D. Of course I went back and
- 4:17searched for Daniel's plate number in the episodes in season
- 4:202 where they go to the beach club and his is QA4590.
- 4:25But the fact that this guy and Mr. Miyagi had the same type of
- 4:28car in the 60s in the same vicinity, in the same town or
- 4:36city, it's like, what? Wait a minute.
- 4:38OK, what are we doing here? Everybody has the same car
- 4:43array. Is the 60s OK?
- 4:50OK, I don't know. Betsy's boyfriend bumps into a
- 4:54busboy. A young John Crease played to
- 4:57perfection from here on out and through Season 6 by Barrett
- 4:59Carnahan, who has played Derek Turner in seven episodes of
- 5:03Cruel Summer, Jake Reardon in 12 episodes of One of His Lying,
- 5:06and Aiden in seven episodes of Alexa and Katie.
- 5:09One of my favorite shows. Yeah.
- 5:14Loved him in that. Show he he's in that.
- 5:17All right, Yeah, I told I told you to watch that show.
- 5:24OK. And you said, oh, he plays that.
- 5:30That's who plays young crease. And I was like, what?
- 5:33Do you not remember this conversation they had like, I
- 5:36don't know, a year ago, maybe six months ago, a year ago, I
- 5:40don't know. I don't know when we had it, but
- 5:42we had this conversation. I believe you.
- 5:46Yeah, I believe you. They bump into Crease without so
- 5:51much of an apology. All three of them go to sit
- 5:53down, and when she expresses pity for the opposing team,
- 5:56David tells her that football players don't show each other
- 5:59mercy. OK, I love that David says it,
- 6:04but Crease overhears it. When Crease sets the table,
- 6:09Bessie thanks him and he smiles. David called Crease a loser
- 6:13after asking what he was looking at, and Crease apologizes before
- 6:16leaving. James whispered to David that
- 6:18Chris's mother committed suicide, to which he laughed and
- 6:21calls him a freak. What?
- 6:23What, Like that's not OK? So freaking 60s whatever, right?
- 6:29Just because of that? That's so weird.
- 6:32Betsy's uncomfortable. Yeah, it is.
- 6:34Betsy's uncomfortable by this, but he tells her that if she
- 6:36cares so much, you can start a circus.
- 6:38Both David and James laugh until an army of officer approaches
- 6:42their table and gives them a pamphlet to recruit them to join
- 6:45the army. They tell the officer that
- 6:47they'll consider it but when he leaves they laugh and Betsy's
- 6:51boyfriend crumbles up the pamphlet into a ball before
- 6:54throwing it onto the floor. Chris picks up the pamphlet and
- 6:59crumbles it and is looking at it when his boss yells at him to
- 7:01get back to work. He quickly goes back to work,
- 7:04but as he passes the boys table carrying a tub of dirty dishes
- 7:06and utensils, David trips him causing the entire diner to
- 7:10laugh at him except Betsy. Yes, the 50s for cruel.
- 7:18Jeez. And present day Chris gives a
- 7:22speech to assemble the Cobra Kai students.
- 7:24Life isn't fair. Sometimes the world can be cruel
- 7:28and that's why you have to learn to be cruel yourself.
- 7:32Weakness is unacceptable. The fight of the school was an
- 7:35embarrassment. You lost soldiers and you lost
- 7:37the battle, but you will not lose again.
- 7:41Soldiers battle Diaz was one of our own.
- 7:44What they did to him, they did to all of us and it will not go
- 7:48unanswered. We will show no mercy, we will
- 7:51show no weakness. We will strike back and we will
- 7:54strike hard. Is that clear?
- 7:57They all yell yes and say and the corporate Kai logo appears
- 8:00on the screen again. War like he This isn't his
- 8:09students anymore. This is his his platoon, his
- 8:14army. His wife you cut out.
- 8:18So he this isn't his his students anymore.
- 8:23This is platoon, his army, his his soldiers.
- 8:27Like he's you lost soldiers, you lost the battle.
- 8:30You're not going to lose his war.
- 8:32Like these are kids like Daniel and Johnny said last season,
- 8:36like dude, calm down with the war stuff.
- 8:40He's all like. What is your thought on that?
- 8:43I don't think we've ever actually discussed that.
- 8:46I, I what, what, what makes what do you think makes him act that
- 8:53way? Like, why is why does he think
- 8:57that? Like, I feel like it's a
- 8:59chemical in his brain and he actually like it.
- 9:02He actually it, it, he believes it.
- 9:06He believes this, that there's a war.
- 9:09And. Yeah.
- 9:12He came back damaged, he never stopped fighting like we get to
- 9:16find out later, but still like he he's in there, he's in.
- 9:20He's in that young Creed's mind again.
- 9:25I mean where everything to. Him is.
- 9:27I guess we kind of do, but I don't know if they fully.
- 9:34They don't. Yeah, they don't fully explain
- 9:38it, so we kind of have to draw our own conclusions, I feel.
- 9:44Yeah. Meanwhile, in the hospital,
- 9:50Miguel is not awake and Carmen is giving him gifts from his
- 9:53friends. She refers to Dimitri as the
- 9:55pale friend who gifted him a comic book, The Pale 1.
- 10:03She points at the basket who tells them it's from the
- 10:05Larusso's. Miguel tries to talk to his mom
- 10:08and wants to know where Johnny is.
- 10:09Johnny is with Daniel as they are on a mission to look for
- 10:12Robbie. They start the journey by going
- 10:15to meet a mutual friend at Malibu Canyon Recovery, a rehab
- 10:18facility where the staff think Johnny is checking in and he
- 10:21tells them that I'm no quitter. Mutual.
- 10:26Sorry, I'm not checking. I'm not.
- 10:29I'm not quitting. She's honest.
- 10:34Like, OK Sir, the mutual friend is Robbie's mother Shannon, who
- 10:37seems to be doing a lot better, has some actual info regarding
- 10:41her son. Tells him about Robbie's former
- 10:44friends and associates, Trey and Cruz.
- 10:46You know the one that looks like Chris Brown and Mustache Johnny
- 10:51asked how they're supposed to find tweedle Dee and tweedle
- 10:53dumb ass Daniel says he knows where you can find them.
- 10:56Of course he does. I love how he Johnny like, walks
- 11:02into the rehab center and so like, this is rehab.
- 11:07What this is how Reba feels like OK.
- 11:12And then he has a moment where it's like, I wish I could be
- 11:14here. Like I'm no quitter.
- 11:17Nah, I'm OK leave me alone. I don't want to be here, but I
- 11:21do want to be here. Like y'all are getting pampered
- 11:27and everything and yoga and like hey girls, we're not doing that,
- 11:33OK? I love how it tells them to
- 11:37focus. Focus.
- 11:39It's like, what? Oh, OK, I'm no quitter, but I
- 11:43wish I could be here with them. At the Cobra Kai Dojo, Kris
- 11:48introduced the students to a mouse, which were names
- 11:50Clarence. Crees insists to feed Clarence
- 11:53to a snake. Bert is unable to go through
- 11:55with it and Crees asks for another one, who agrees with
- 11:58Bert to raise their hands. Crees then dismisses him and
- 12:01kicks them off. The team Hawk looks at Bert, who
- 12:05has one of his who's one of his best friends and always hangs it
- 12:08out with him as fool, realizing now that he's no longer Cobra
- 12:11Kai, he isn't going to hang out with him anymore.
- 12:14Like the look on Hawk's face, like you're kicking my friends
- 12:18out, man, what are you doing? Like we were, we thought we were
- 12:23all in this together. Not anymore, buddy.
- 12:28Crees smiles at the remaining students and then turns around
- 12:30to drop the mouse in with a snake.
- 12:32But you hear hiss and a squeak. Hawk later questions Crees about
- 12:36his plan, wondering if now's the time to lose students.
- 12:40But Crees assures them that they need to start in their core if
- 12:42one of them wants to be the new champion in Miguel's Tapsons.
- 12:50Who should be the champion in Miguel's absence?
- 12:54Who do you think? Are you talking about in Miguel
- 13:02and Robbie's absence? Oh, Robbie's well, covert Kai.
- 13:12Oh, that's true. OK, yeah, Then Robbie's not OK
- 13:19for going just Cobra Kai. Oh, Bert's no longer there, so I
- 13:23can't pick him. I'm just kidding.
- 13:27You ring up with Bert. Oh my, I love that.
- 13:31Doesn't get any anything. No, I definitely would say Hawk.
- 13:37Because Bert is on the first round every time I.
- 13:41Like Bert? Yeah.
- 13:47True. I would say Hawk.
- 13:50Hawk All right, Corey, if he was still in there, But yeah.
- 13:58Maybe. I see it.
- 13:59Definitely. You know what?
- 14:02Yeah. There's toss up between Hawk and
- 14:05Tori. They're both.
- 14:07They're both bad asses. But Tori's absent from the Dojo
- 14:14is explained by her struggling to keep the lights on while
- 14:17caring for her sick mother. Taking care of her brother.
- 14:21I didn't know she had a brother I didn't know.
- 14:23All the while trying not to get convicted from her apartment by
- 14:26the landlord like what happened to her brother.
- 14:29Or should I say I forgot? I forgot.
- 14:32She had a. Brother, yeah, when we first or
- 14:34when I first watched this and then going back and me watching
- 14:37it I was like where is he? Like we're OK, Well, we won't
- 14:45spoil, but yes, anyways, so. OK, yeah.
- 14:49All the while trying not to give me get evicted from a partner by
- 14:53the landlord Rodney, or receive an actual juvie sentence.
- 14:56We don't get to see Tory's mom's face until season six.
- 15:00But this is where the rumor I'm ready to started that maybe it
- 15:02was Julie from The Next Karate Kid and how the producers were
- 15:06trying to talk to Hilary Swank about returning for the role for
- 15:09these episodes, but it ended up not being her.
- 15:14No, she walks out of her apartment to throw the garbage
- 15:18and run to her landlord Rodney, played by Grace and Berry, who
- 15:21ironically showed up on line Order SVU the same year.
- 15:24Season 3. You know he gives major
- 15:32pedophile vibes. Creeps.
- 15:36Creepy guy. You know Tori, he's creepy.
- 15:40He tells her he heard about that catfight at school and if he had
- 15:44an inflatable fool with mud in it, he could have sold tickets
- 15:46with that boy that fought over. Could.
- 15:49Have sat front and center. Yeah.
- 15:52Tori asked not to talk about him, which Rodney gets more
- 15:54creepy by telling her things would be easier for her if she
- 15:56had a man instead of a boy and not worry about paying rent.
- 16:02He's going all in on that huh? He tries to caress her hair but
- 16:06she quickly grabs him by his wrist and defends herself real
- 16:08quickly, saying she bet he wouldn't sound like a man if she
- 16:12broke his wrist. I love that, good job.
- 16:16He answers back with what would her probation officer would say.
- 16:20She pushes him back and tells her to sing about what he said,
- 16:23blackmailing her to seeing her tonight or getting that check on
- 16:25the 1st of the month. He mimics a cat growling, laughs
- 16:29and walks away, leaving Tori to kick a metal pipe by the wall of
- 16:32the apartment. Yeah, don't like this guy at
- 16:37all? Daniel and Johnny go to see
- 16:42Robbie's former associates in prison, which they then slip
- 16:44into the classic good cop bad cop routine that fits with their
- 16:48odd Couple banter. Both Trey and Mustache listen to
- 16:52Daniel, but not Johnny because Danny knows how to kick ass.
- 16:55Not like Johnny who they call a punk ass bitch.
- 16:59Johnny loves mustache. Johnny slaps mustache twice
- 17:03while the security guard turns the other way.
- 17:06Trey tries to defuse the situation by telling them where
- 17:08they all used to spend time. Daniel tells them they better be
- 17:12telling the truth or else he's sending Johnny to them alone
- 17:15next time. You know, trying to, like, scare
- 17:18them off. Back at the hospital, Miguel's
- 17:23being fed by Carmen while a doctor checks up on him.
- 17:26Miguel confirmed that he can feel his hands and Carmen makes
- 17:29a small talk about what his grandmother is doing at home
- 17:31while the doctor tests Miguel's leg and foot.
- 17:34Miguel does not feel anything and confirms as such even when
- 17:37the doctor presses a pen against the bottle of Miguel's feet.
- 17:40The doctor then takes Carmen outside his room to talk.
- 17:43The news doesn't look good as Miguel watches through the
- 17:45window and sees his mom breakdown.
- 17:47He is paralyzed from the waist down and we all get that moment
- 17:55where they're like, oh shit, he's not going to walk again,
- 18:01right? Yeah, I again, this is one where
- 18:07I was like, what are they going to do?
- 18:09What's going to happen? He's what are they going to make
- 18:13him? Because he obviously won't be
- 18:15playing karate anymore. Right.
- 18:18Yeah. Playing Doing karate, Doing
- 18:21karate, doing karate. Yeah, doing karate, practicing.
- 18:24I'm playing it, doing it, practicing karate.
- 18:25Yeah, something with karate. Karate OK?
- 18:35In the car, Amanda calls Daniel and Johnny and is faintly
- 18:38horrified when she hears what they've done.
- 18:40Been up to Daniel tells her they have the lead on Robbie.
- 18:44Amanda smirks and ask if there are if they're both Tango and
- 18:47Cash now. Johnny corrects her by saying
- 18:49Tango and Cash bring a cottage detective.
- 18:52Totally different. Again, another 80s preference,
- 18:56right? Tango and cash was 80s or is it
- 18:5890s? 80s, like I don't remember right
- 19:01now. I've never seen it.
- 19:03I'm going to go watch it now. It's good before anybody's
- 19:06mentions anything. Oh, tango and cash, Yeah.
- 19:10Amanda apologized. Doesn't really care.
- 19:13He's like oh I'm sorry. After relating to her that
- 19:18Johnny and Daniel went to prison, she tells the both of
- 19:20them to be careful. After the call Daniel was the
- 19:23poison of Johnny for revealing the prison part.
- 19:25Johnny says he's not lying to Daniel's wife for him.
- 19:31Jesus do anything I want buddy. Next scene, Tori's counting the
- 19:37money to get ready to pay for a rent, but it started by a knock
- 19:40on the door. Kree speaks to Tori at her
- 19:42apartment, blames herself for what happened to Miguel.
- 19:45She doesn't want to go to Juby. Kree insists that he will pay
- 19:48for her rent as he too had similar complications as his
- 19:51mother was ill as well, but with a different kind of sickness
- 19:55from which she unfortunately did not recover from depression.
- 20:01That's what I'm thinking. That's what I was thinking,
- 20:04Something mental health related, yeah.
- 20:08And. What creases, what is what is he
- 20:13doing? What is his motive is what I
- 20:15want to know. Why is he offering to help and
- 20:17offering to pay? It can't just be because she's
- 20:20good at karate. Like what is his motivation
- 20:22there? He's down a few people like
- 20:26Cockery spoke to him like what are you doing?
- 20:28You're kicking people out. So he is going for what he did
- 20:33to Johnny back in the 80s and trying to like work the angle
- 20:38where like, I understand your mom is sick.
- 20:42I can help you. My mom, you know, had a similar
- 20:46situation, you know, trying to like trauma, trauma bond with
- 20:52them. So like, I feel like he's trying
- 20:55to trauma bond with Tori here. And like, you know, I'll help
- 21:01you out and do all this stuff for you as long as you don't
- 21:04quit because I really need you. I really need you to be on the
- 21:08team. I really need you to be my
- 21:11quarterback for now while Miguel is in the hospital.
- 21:15I was kind of thinking they were going to say be part of his
- 21:17army. That too, you know, like because
- 21:24he Hawk can take him there, but Hawk has a serious anger issue.
- 21:32Are you OK? Tori does as Tory is broken and
- 21:37she can work through it like he feels like he can help her anger
- 21:43while Hawk is like he needs more time.
- 21:47I feel Hawk has a right to be angry though.
- 21:55Who's bullied? Yeah.
- 21:57He's got, he's got trying. He's got his own demons.
- 22:02That's true, he gets bullied while Tori is already knows
- 22:06martial arts. It's just like she needs to,
- 22:08like she needs it so he's trying to help.
- 22:14Tori's a little skeptical about it because she keeps looking at
- 22:17the landlord and asks that she does not need help and tells
- 22:20Greece to not worry about her situation.
- 22:23Oh, but Crease will worry about her situation.
- 22:27Back in 1965, Crees was taking out the trash and then overhears
- 22:30Betsy having complications with David.
- 22:33Crees sees David slap her for smiling at someone and if he
- 22:36needs to save her. David tells Crees to stay away
- 22:39from his business and calls him a freak.
- 22:41Crees fights both David and James, already having experience
- 22:44with fighting and saying he's been fighting his whole life.
- 22:47He sure ain't scared of him. He knocks both of them out and
- 22:50his own spaghetti elite is trying to stand up, right?
- 22:54Betsy asked if he's OK and Crease says he's had worse, but
- 22:57ask her if she needs a lift. Take your shot, man.
- 23:04You're, you already beat up the bully.
- 23:06You might as well take your shot there.
- 23:07Like, hey, you want to go out sometime?
- 23:09I'm sure why not? Young crease, yes.
- 23:14Old crease no. I like young crease, but then
- 23:17again, that's probably because I also like the actor who plays
- 23:19young Crease. OK there you go.
- 23:24At a gas station Daniel gets a text and shows Johnny is good
- 23:26news that Miguel has woken up. They then see the stolen Dodge
- 23:29Caravan show up and they chase it to the sound of Kick Start My
- 23:32Heart by Mötley Crüe running through red lights and breaking
- 23:37every speed limit 80s band. It eventually ends into an on
- 23:43foot pursuit into a garage where they get into a fight with a
- 23:46different guy and his friends. Both Daniel and Johnny make a
- 23:49great tag team with Johnny going low and sweeping the leg and
- 23:52Daniel going high and Roundhouse kicking the face of the owner of
- 23:55the garage. Daniel and Johnny get into it
- 23:58also. Daniel says he regrets calling
- 24:00him for help and can't believe Johnny actually taught kids.
- 24:03Johnny goes deep and calls him some great teacher, but look
- 24:06what happened to Robbie. Daniel says he's willing to
- 24:09admit that he failed Robbie, but maybe because he had a little
- 24:11Johnny in him. They end up.
- 24:14Right. They end up going different
- 24:16paths with Daniel getting a call and telling the caller that he
- 24:19would be on his way. I love that fight that they did.
- 24:24Like. With her, you know, like doing
- 24:26their own karate, Daniel getting the whole defense, Johnny doing
- 24:32the whole offense and then hitting that one guy, Johnny
- 24:39going low like he usually does and Daniel taking a High Road
- 24:43like he usually does and knocking that guy out.
- 24:49So it's like, oh, I I love that interaction.
- 24:53I love that tag team also where just like, all right, I'll help
- 24:56you. But there's one guy like they're
- 24:59doing at the same time round Hell's kicking a sweep kick and
- 25:04it was the best thing ever. That was my favorite moment
- 25:06right there. I think my mine was like right
- 25:10before that. Well, mine was when it started
- 25:12when he jumped, when when Johnny jumped in the car and the driver
- 25:16said that he was driving. And it started from there with
- 25:18that song, Perfect song, 80s song, Kick Start My Heart and
- 25:22then The Pursuit. And then right before or in the
- 25:26garage or when they were in the garage and Johnny, I don't know
- 25:31if you noticed, but Johnny pushes Daniel out of the way
- 25:35when he started to fight. He's like whatever he says, he
- 25:39says something or not and then gives him a push out of the way
- 25:42and just starts fighting. And I just freaking.
- 25:44I thought that was great. OK, well I love that too.
- 25:49It was awesome. Crees approaches Rodney, who
- 25:53believed that Crees was another man she owed money to.
- 25:56Crees only claims to be a neutral party looking out for
- 25:59Tory's best interest, to which Rodney responds that either
- 26:01Crees pays Tory's rent or for her, or she can do something
- 26:04else to get on Rodney's good side.
- 26:08Crees responds by threatening to chop off Rodney's right hand
- 26:11index finger with a cigar cutter where the landlord dropped all
- 26:15of his bravado and begs to be spared.
- 26:17I have a fucking noise that he did like what the hell was that?
- 26:25What the heck? I'm like really, really Mr. High
- 26:32and mighty over there trying to fucking flirt with the fucking
- 26:35young girl. And then he's all Oh my God.
- 26:45And I love that. I love this part where it crease
- 26:48in. I'm just like, I hate pedals.
- 26:51I'm a fucking cut your finger off.
- 26:54So just like, all right, you're starting to redeem yourself.
- 26:58But and then like right before he does it too and like, it's
- 27:04like, all right, fine, I'll do it, I'll do it, I'll do it.
- 27:07The scene instantly cuts to Miguel cutting a piece of
- 27:09sausage. Oh my God, they didn't do it.
- 27:15Was still as funny as hell. The scene is yeah.
- 27:21It cuts to Miguel cutting a piece of sausage at the hospital
- 27:24like chick and the way he just like eats it and just like it
- 27:28looks up implying that Chris took the deal that wasn't in
- 27:35favor and leaving the landlord with his finger on his hand.
- 27:38So he like all right, fine. Johnny goes to the hospital and
- 27:41sneak in to see Miguel, who were reals to Johnny that the doctor
- 27:44says he might never walk again. Johnny sings who?
- 27:48Who is he to tell you that? Like a doctor?
- 27:51Fucking asshole. What do you mean like he don't
- 27:56know? Like yes he does what?
- 27:59Maybe he doesn't like doctors for some reason.
- 28:01No, Miguel asked Johnny what he did wrong as he showed mercy and
- 28:06was rewarded with a broken spine.
- 28:08When Johnny is unable to console Miguel or give him an answer,
- 28:11Miguel, feeling betrayed, tearfully tells Johnny to get
- 28:14out and Johnny leave, leaving Miguel alone.
- 28:17It's over dramatic on this episode.
- 28:22But there need to be get. Out, get out.
- 28:27Stop. Don't cut my finger around.
- 28:31Oh. My God.
- 28:37OK, well, that part was just whatever, but I'm talking about
- 28:40your Miguel. Your mom committed suicide?
- 28:44What a freak. Come on.
- 28:46Really. OK, yeah, the sex show is kind
- 28:48of dramatic, so. Way too much but.
- 28:54We love this show. We like, we do, we do.
- 28:58We just love making fun of it. And yeah, anyway.
- 29:05Daniel arrived at the rehab clinic, where Robbie is eating a
- 29:08meal with Shannon. Daniel attempts to convince
- 29:11Robbie to turn himself in to the police, but just as Robbie
- 29:14considers Daniel's offer, the police arrive into the scene,
- 29:18betrayed and upset. Robbie attempts to flee, but the
- 29:20cop catches him before he can get too far.
- 29:23Daniel attempts to get through to Robbie, promising to do
- 29:26anything to help him along with visiting him, but Robbie tells
- 29:29Daniel not to try. This is what I mean.
- 29:32The whole whoever wrote this on fandom, great job, but the last
- 29:38episode where you decided to put Danny instead of Daniel the
- 29:42entire time and then this one Daniel, like what?
- 29:46Come on, you did an amazing job, but still you have to I'm sorry.
- 29:55And there you go. I'm sorry.
- 30:02Please continue to do the work for season six when we get
- 30:05there, please, because I don't want to, like, do what I did
- 30:11with GLOW. And anyway, both kids are mad at
- 30:18their son's age when they're trying to be parents.
- 30:22Johnny's all like, I'm sorry, man.
- 30:24I told you to be be mercy, be have mercy and all this stuff.
- 30:27Yeah, but still, I didn't mean to like and he didn't know that
- 30:34it was his son that was going to be like oh fuck you kicked to
- 30:38the fucking chest, jumps over the railing.
- 30:45There is no way that that would have happened in real life.
- 30:48Come on. Unless unless Miguel jumped up,
- 30:55but still I digress. Even Robbie and Daniel Daniel
- 31:03Robbie feels betrayed that Daniel called the cops on him.
- 31:06Yes, yeah, both of them. I just, I don't know, this
- 31:10episode kind of just broke my heart with that stuff with the
- 31:12with with Johnny and Daniel and the guilt and then more guilt
- 31:17and then them making them feel like crap and yeah.
- 31:22We are in an episode where Crease is a fucking good person
- 31:26here. What?
- 31:28Yeah. What's happening?
- 31:29I don't. I have no idea what is.
- 31:30Happening in this episode. It's like an what is it
- 31:40something universe? Oh wait, what?
- 31:42Alternate universe redemption episode though.
- 31:45Oh, I guess. But no, I was thinking like,
- 31:47that's not the word. I was thinking alternate
- 31:50universe. That's what I was thinking.
- 31:52Alternate universe episode. What has happened next?
- 31:58Lean is at the Cobra Kai Dojo. Creed is telling us students
- 32:01that they are only as strong as their wiki links.
- 32:03When they remove those links, this is what they have left.
- 32:06Eleven students, he continues and says that they are one unit
- 32:09with one united purpose. Toria arrived at the Cobra Kai
- 32:13Dojo, resuming her karate training now that her issue is
- 32:17worked out. Creases, please begins drills
- 32:21starting with the forward strike back.
- 32:23She basically owes him her life. The final flashback is Crease
- 32:32kissing Betsy goodbye before he boards the military bus.
- 32:36Betsy tells him that she doesn't know if she can handle this with
- 32:39him, assuring her that it's just basic training, to which she
- 32:42promises that she'll be waiting for him.
- 32:45She asked him to promise that he'll come back, and he promises
- 32:47to not only come back, but to come back as a hero.
- 32:52OK. And that's the last time we see
- 32:55her as well. Oh no, she's another episode.
- 32:59There's. Two episodes of her.
- 33:01What is there? Yeah, or to IMDb.
- 33:05She has two episodes. I don't remember, but I'll watch
- 33:09that and I'll find out. And present day, Chris tells his
- 33:14students that their whole life they're told to be good, and
- 33:16that good is only a matter of perspective.
- 33:19He also tells them that they need to always remember that
- 33:22their enemies think what they're doing is right, that their
- 33:25enemies think of themselves as the heroes and his students as
- 33:29the villains. He then states that they now
- 33:31know the truth in that there's no good or bad, there's only
- 33:34weak or strong, and tells them that they have now shed their
- 33:38weakness and it is time to show their strength.
- 33:42If they do that, he promises that he will make them
- 33:44unstoppable and stares right into the camera before the show
- 33:48ends the credit. Yeah, yeah.
- 33:56So basically John Robbie hates Daniel, Miguel hates Johnny.
- 34:03Tori sings creases her dad now holds her his life and now.
- 34:13And now I now I know why she went.
- 34:15She didn't that in season 6. Yeah, I know.
- 34:21But still like it's been 2 weeks, come on.
- 34:25Come on, it doesn't matter. Maybe some, maybe there's one
- 34:30person up that hasn't seen it yet.
- 34:33You never know all. Right, fine.
- 34:39But I didn't even think about that either.
- 34:42See, I didn't even think about that.
- 34:43What you just said. That makes sense.
- 34:45Yeah, that makes sense. It makes sense.
- 34:47It makes sense. No, I mean part of it.
- 34:49Part of it, yeah. Part of it maybe we know the
- 34:51other reason why she was all yeah, but yeah.
- 34:55But the other part, like every well, we'll talk about it on
- 34:59some other time because people are stating theories and I'm
- 35:04like, shut up, like let enjoy the show and just shut up.
- 35:08But no, people are like stating theories.
- 35:10And when we get there, like in a few weeks maybe.
- 35:15Shouldn't you mentioned earlier about Hilary Swank, Julie and
- 35:25that we thought or was it was a it was a whatever a theory or
- 35:29whatever that she was going to be Tori's mom, play Tori's mom,
- 35:35which we found out she didn't. But also there's apparently
- 35:40Easter eggs of her making a cameo still.
- 35:44So first season 6, yes. Jeez, like.
- 35:48Oh, you didn't see that? No, at this point I really don't
- 35:52care anymore. I actually.
- 35:55I'm interested. I like, I would like to know if
- 35:57that's true, if that's going to happen.
- 35:59But yeah, there's a whole article on it.
- 36:02OK. I'll have to look like I have to
- 36:04look into the ARCO, but at this point I'm just like you've had
- 36:10yeah, I'm over it. So you've had some season 2,
- 36:12you've been telling us about the Miyagi verse and Julie was a
- 36:15part of Miyagi verse Next Karate Kid, but yet you have yet to
- 36:20show her. So now like you're going to do a
- 36:24last minute thing and just show her in the last episode of
- 36:27season? Six give away too much, but just
- 36:29just remember the box. That's all I'm going to say.
- 36:34Oh. That's all I'll say.
- 36:38Again, spoilers, but yeah. He must have.
- 36:41OK, so goodbye. Mr. Miyagi Easter egg, Yeah.
- 36:49Michael Ironsize Like, don't trust this man.
- 36:56I mean, I don't know if it's going to happen, but yeah, there
- 36:58is an article so. Yeah, OK.
- 37:00It'll be interesting. But yeah, that's, that's what
- 37:03they were hinting at or saying. The that was given away.
- 37:06That was the the hint given away was the box and the yeah, the
- 37:10secret. So, yeah, yeah.
- 37:13The secret badass moment. Well, obviously the the fight in
- 37:23the garage, yes. And the car, the pursuit, that
- 37:29that was my favorite badass moment.
- 37:31So yeah, for sure right there. Yeah, the, the, you know, that
- 37:40part where like one of them came in the face, the other one sweep
- 37:43the leg like it's a, it's a great tag team moment right
- 37:47there. And I was like, can you please
- 37:50do more of this? Yeah, so.
- 37:52You do the tag team moment where one of them sweeps the leg, the
- 37:57other one Roundhouse kicked, or do some other type of tag team
- 38:01moments there. I know I do like their tag team.
- 38:04I love their tag team moments. Not with them too, but
- 38:08specifically, but with others, they do it the very like later
- 38:11on the season. Like I was like, oh shit, that's
- 38:14that's pretty great right there and hopefully is.
- 38:18And like I think it's the season or next season, I don't
- 38:21remember, but like hopefully, like we get one of those in this
- 38:25season. But this is a badass moment
- 38:27right here. See the episode 2 what you think
- 38:34of it like. Definitely better than episode
- 38:37one, yeah. For sure, yeah.
- 38:43With not remembering exactly the rest of all of it, 'cause, you
- 38:48know, no, I have a bad memory. I'm going to have to probably
- 38:52say I feel like I think I feel like this episode is probably in
- 38:56my top five favorites for I know we're early on, it's only one
- 39:01and two, so I'm just taking a guess, but I'm pretty sure it's
- 39:07probably in my top five. OK, already discussing top five
- 39:13moments on the 10 episode and episode 2.
- 39:18All right. I don't remember any of the
- 39:21episodes, so I'm not. Going to, that's what I'm
- 39:24saying. I don't remember, but I'm just
- 39:25going to say I think this probably was there.
- 39:29Like and yes, I didn't, I didn't do the the whole binge watching
- 39:34thing for season before season six.
- 39:36I only like saw the episode of season 5, the last episode, that
- 39:40was it. And then I came into season six
- 39:42and I was like, oh, OK, so now. I had to watch.
- 39:46I did. I watched it all.
- 39:47And yeah, especially you have to watch all of season.
- 39:51I feel like you have to watch Season 5 before you get into
- 39:53Season 6. So yeah, be coming into like
- 39:58season three and then four and then five, I'm just going to be
- 40:00like clear headed, like don't remember anything.
- 40:05So this will be my first reaction from the second
- 40:08reaction. Like a first reaction was like,
- 40:10Oh my God. Yeah.
- 40:11And then for second reaction was like oh OK, now I remember.
- 40:15Yeah, Oh, oh, this happened. That's exactly my reaction.
- 40:19What it was when I was watching it.
- 40:21What was it last week, Two weeks ago when I re watched and I was
- 40:26like, oh I forgot about this. Oh yeah, this happened.
- 40:29That's exactly how I was. Right.
- 40:34OK, Badass moments. Final thoughts.
- 40:38We did all that. We we we killed it.
- 40:41We did. See episode 2 of season three.
- 40:45We're done. We're done.
- 40:46We ready to leave? You ready to get out of here?
- 40:49Until next time, absolutely. Oh yeah, until next time.
- 40:54All right, well, that's going to do it for this episode.
- 40:58Join us next week for another scene by scene episode breakdown
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