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Hour Two | LSU vs. Kentucky Preview, NFL Refs & OTB Mailbag · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 3: all right as we turn the page from well what
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  Speaker 3: we saw last night to what we are going to
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  Speaker 3: see this weekend lsu travels to lexington kentucky to take
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  Speaker 3: on the kentucky wildcats now the last two times you've
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  Speaker 3: Traveled to Lexington and has not gone well for you
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  Speaker 3: in 2007. Those idiots. We went up there and lost
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  Speaker 3: in triple overtime. In 2021, they big boyed you.
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  Speaker 2: Will Levis.
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  Speaker 3: I think they called the offensive line then the big
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  Speaker 3: blue wall. Chris Rodriguez at running back. They got after you.
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  Speaker 3: So it hasn't been great. It's not a trip, as
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  Speaker 3: you can tell, that you take very often, being the
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  Speaker 3: fact that it was 2007, 2021.
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  Speaker 2: What a shame. That's crazy. It's like twice in 20 years.
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  Speaker 3: You had three full recruiting classes that never went to
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  Speaker 3: a place in their conference.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's messed up.
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  Speaker 3: But you're going there this year. Right now, LSU opened
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  Speaker 3: up– I think it got all the way up to 10.5.
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  Speaker 3: That number is now down to 8.5. So LSU minus 8.5
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  Speaker 3: in Lexington. ESPN matchup predictor gives me a 75.4% chance
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  Speaker 3: to win this game.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I found a way to lose the bet one time.
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  Speaker 2: I was 99% chance of winning. What was that? What
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  Speaker 2: bet was that? I mean, it was just a random
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  Speaker 2: bet I made. I don't know. Done it plenty of times. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Where you had 99% chance.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. And lost it. All right.
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  Speaker 3: Some familiar faces over on Kentucky sideline, including former LSU
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  Speaker 3: offensive coordinator Joe Sloan. We call him plays for the Wildcats.
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  Speaker 2: That's him. It's going to be an interesting matchup.
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  Speaker 3: Now, Blake Baker and Joe Sloan have known each other
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  Speaker 3: for a very long time. It doesn't just go back
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  Speaker 3: to their days at LSU together. They were at Louisiana
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  Speaker 3: Tech together. Again, they've known each other for a decade plus.
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  Speaker 3: I never quite know how to view a matchup like this.
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  Speaker 3: You know, does it favor one? Do you know tendencies?
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  Speaker 3: Do you chase ghosts? Do you try to do too much?
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  Speaker 3: Do you try to look at too much of the past?
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  Speaker 3: Do you try to remember what gave them trouble in practice?
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  Speaker 3: Or do you just go off the tape that you
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  Speaker 3: have from this year?
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  Speaker 2: It's new players.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Will Stein's going to have a new influence
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  Speaker 3: on Joe Sloan. How would you, if you're a coordinator
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  Speaker 3: in this, how would you kind of go about putting
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  Speaker 3: your game plan together?
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  Speaker 2: You're going to do all the– so what a coordinator
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  Speaker 2: does is once that week starts, you're watching film as
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  Speaker 2: soon as the game's over, as soon as one game
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  Speaker 2: is over, as soon as the Magnets get up. Blake
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  Speaker 2: Baker's probably watching film that night, certainly early the next
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  Speaker 2: morning on a Sunday. But they've already had assistant coaches, GA.
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  Speaker 2: They've had all these people watching film and making tendencies,
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  Speaker 2: making the binder on each team all offseason. And then
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  Speaker 2: every single week, there's people that are in charge of
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  Speaker 2: game planning ahead of time. At least giving tendencies and breakdowns.
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  Speaker 2: The thing with Blake Baker's defense is that they're so–
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  Speaker 2: And I understand there's injuries right now. But from a, like,
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  Speaker 2: schematically and an X's and O's standpoint, they've done so
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  Speaker 2: many different types of things. They've presented so many different
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  Speaker 2: types of looks for the quarterbacks and for offensive coordinators
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  Speaker 2: that it's, their playbook is huge on defense. Like, it's
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  Speaker 2: for defense, right? Defensive players, you know, we get it.
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  Speaker 2: like defensive playbooks never as big as an offensive playbook.
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  Speaker 2: There's just only so many things that you can do
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  Speaker 2: so many things that you can run on a defense,
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  Speaker 2: but like there is what you presented to offenses is
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  Speaker 2: so great that I don't think you're really having to
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  Speaker 2: game plan too, too much. Like you can work on tendencies.
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  Speaker 2: You can work on different skill sets of quarterback. Certainly
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  Speaker 2: the way you teach a pass rush is different versus
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  Speaker 2: Marcel Reed than it is somebody that doesn't have the,
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  Speaker 2: that ability. Yeah. Kenny Minchie. So that, what you're teaching
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  Speaker 2: your guys from, like, rush techniques is a little bit different.
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  Speaker 2: But I said it before we went into Texas A
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  Speaker 2: & M game. It's like we were talking about how
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  Speaker 2: do you game plan for them? How do you game
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  Speaker 2: plan for Texas A & M and Marcel? He's had
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  Speaker 2: all the success with you. Well, looking at the Kentucky game,
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  Speaker 2: they're okay, but there's not one category that they are
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  Speaker 2: exceptionally good at. They've played hard. They're pretty good in
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  Speaker 2: the trenches. They big-boyed A & M. A & M' s
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  Speaker 2: not that good. But if you look at their team
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  Speaker 2: statistical rankings, there's nothing that they're top five at. There's
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  Speaker 2: nothing that they're really, really good at. Minchie's thrown one
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  Speaker 2: interception this year. That's pretty good. So he's taking care
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  Speaker 2: of the ball, which is a really good thing. But again,
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  Speaker 2: I think from Kentucky standpoint, you got to be more
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  Speaker 2: worried about game planning against Blake Baker than Blake Baker
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  Speaker 2: has to be worried about game planning against you because
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  Speaker 2: all of the, like there's so much built into this
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  Speaker 2: defense already. He can dial things up and that's a
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  Speaker 2: credit to him. That's a credit to the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the staff, but more so it's a credit to the
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  Speaker 2: players because they have proven to be able to handle
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  Speaker 2: that workload and that like mental load on, on them
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  Speaker 2: to be able to run all these different types of
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  Speaker 2: defenses and give the, different types of looks. That's a
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  Speaker 2: credit to the players. That's a credit to the leadership
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  Speaker 2: that's on the field and the leadership that is off
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  Speaker 2: the field with the coaching staff. So I'd be more
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  Speaker 2: worried if I was Joe Sloan than Blake Baker.
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  Speaker 3: So as you were talking in it, and I do,
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  Speaker 3: I agree with you. I was trying to look at
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  Speaker 3: just like run concept frequency for Kentucky. Cause we knew
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  Speaker 3: LSU was a big inside zone team. They still, it's a,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's, it's a run that's up there. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I know Joe Sloan loved Duo, loved it, loved to
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  Speaker 3: run Duo. They still run a lot of that. I
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  Speaker 3: would actually say it's their lead run. They run a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more outside zone. I mean, they've only still
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  Speaker 3: run three powers, so that can tell you it's just
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  Speaker 3: not something.
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  Speaker 2: They ran one, though.
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  Speaker 3: They ran three. That's three times more than they ran
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  Speaker 3: a year ago. Eleven counters on the year, so they're
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  Speaker 3: not a gap scheme team. They're just not. That's not
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  Speaker 3: what Joe Sloan's offense is going to be. So you're
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  Speaker 3: going to get a ton of zone runs with inside
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  Speaker 3: and outside zone. You're going to get some man concepts
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  Speaker 3: with some duo runs, but a lot of what they
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  Speaker 3: did a year ago, it's pretty much the same. Now,
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  Speaker 3: not all the way into the tendencies because man, did
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  Speaker 3: they fall into some bad ones a year ago, but
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  Speaker 3: it kind of is what it is. Like a lot
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  Speaker 3: of the offense that you saw a year ago, as
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  Speaker 3: far as what they're going to run is a lot
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  Speaker 3: of the same. So yeah, kind of know who a
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  Speaker 3: coordinator is. I mean, they're not going to completely change
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  Speaker 3: their spots overnight.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not. And it does make you wonder, like,
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  Speaker 2: who is, you know, Will Stein comes over and he's
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  Speaker 2: an offensive guy. Like, whose offense is it? I would
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  Speaker 2: think it's some sort of combination of both. We call
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  Speaker 2: that an amalgamation. An amalgamation? Yeah. I like it. But
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  Speaker 2: we know what it is. I mean, Joe Sloan, of course,
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  Speaker 2: not a lot of success last year. We get it.
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  Speaker 2: For whatever reason that was, we're going to put a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the blame on the head guy. But we
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  Speaker 2: also put blame on the coordinator as well. And I
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  Speaker 2: get it. They were dealt a bad hand with the
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  Speaker 2: quarterback and injury and some things like that. But, like,
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  Speaker 2: they just completely– it was a tough situation for any coordinator.
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  Speaker 2: I got it. But they went so far the wrong
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  Speaker 2: direction last season. Like, we can't unsee that stuff. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's a bad taste in our mouths, certainly. And we
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  Speaker 2: don't think he's a good coordinator just because of that
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  Speaker 2: one season, right? And so– Kentucky's had more success, though,
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  Speaker 2: so far in the season than we thought they were.
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  Speaker 2: This game looks a lot different now than it did
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  Speaker 2: before the season.
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  Speaker 3: It certainly does. And throughout the week, we'll pull up
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  Speaker 3: a couple of other different things. Like we'll pull up
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  Speaker 3: the passing map. Like the passing map is something we
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  Speaker 3: talked a lot about when it came to this offense
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  Speaker 3: a year ago. Look, there's actually plays between the hashes here. Now,
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  Speaker 3: not a ton of completed passes, and it's still a
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  Speaker 3: lot of outside the hashes, but we'll kind of compare...
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  Speaker 3: what we saw a year ago to what we see
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  Speaker 3: from Kentucky right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to, um, and I'm working on a
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  Speaker 2: kind of a scouting report for Kentucky right now. And
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  Speaker 2: I was going to give you just kind of like
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  Speaker 2: a little preview of what I'm talking about, how, how
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  Speaker 2: I'm not, how they are like not exceptionally great at
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  Speaker 2: any one type of deal. But I'm doing kind of
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  Speaker 2: like a full scouting report on them. Mr. Jake, here,
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  Speaker 2: check this out. Look at that bad boy. Wait. Are
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  Speaker 2: these numbers correct? We haven't double-checked it. I actually did
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  Speaker 2: double-check a lot of them.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of them?
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  Speaker 2: Most of them.
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, come on, that's a lot of numbers to check.
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  Speaker 2: So the green category is anything that's kind of like in, like,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of different categories and a lot of
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  Speaker 2: different numbers and a lot of fluff here, but like
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  Speaker 2: there's the green categories as things that they are ranked
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  Speaker 2: in the top 25 red categories, things that they're like 95, 92nd,
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  Speaker 2: like 90 plus, but there's nothing scoring offense or 57th
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  Speaker 2: total offense, 53rd in the country yards per play, 47th.
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  Speaker 2: Everything is very middle of the road yards per carry. Decent.
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  Speaker 2: They're 35th in the country. Russian touchdowns, 41st. Um, They
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  Speaker 2: have a really good red zone touchdown percentage. But, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: sacks allowed, they're 100. Third down conversions, 138. 24.5% on
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  Speaker 2: third downs. So, on offense, they're okay. LSU's defense has
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  Speaker 2: been really good. That's a very good matchup, I believe,
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  Speaker 2: for LSU's defense with the injuries.
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  Speaker 3: One of the things that jumped out to me as
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking at your stats, third down defense, 122nd in
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  Speaker 3: the country for Kentucky. LSU's offense is 10th in the
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  Speaker 3: country converting third downs.
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  Speaker 2: Rushing touchdowns allowed, 105th in the country. Passing defense, 104th. So, look,
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  Speaker 2: let's not pretend that. It's a really hard place to play,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know what they were ranked when we
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  Speaker 2: got beat by them in triple overtime in 07.
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  Speaker 3: 17, I think.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know what their rankings here were. What
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  Speaker 2: are they? They're nationally ranked 25 right now?
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  Speaker 3: 25 in one poll, 26 technically in the other.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. There's not a lot of categories statistically that they
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  Speaker 2: are top 25 in. There's three of them. They're in
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  Speaker 2: green right here. Pretty wild. Pretty wild that they are
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  Speaker 2: middle of the road in so many things, but still
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  Speaker 2: the wins and losses.
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  Speaker 3: Their defense coordinator is Jay Bateman. You'll probably remember that
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  Speaker 3: name because he was at Texas A & M in
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  Speaker 3: the same capacity beforehand. This is a coordinator that you
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  Speaker 3: have experience against. He's got experience against your offense as well,
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  Speaker 3: being at Texas A & M and playing Ole Miss. Again,
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  Speaker 3: A lot of familiarity between these two staffs.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like. Yeah, there's a lot. I like our
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  Speaker 2: players better, though. So we are going to have a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more of a scouting breakdown with some different
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  Speaker 2: things and take a look. And so our Eye in
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  Speaker 2: the Sky podcast YouTube video this week will be probably tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: it'll be a little bit more about Kentucky than it
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  Speaker 2: was looking back at the McNeese game this past weekend. Not, well,
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  Speaker 2: one pretty good reason why. The film wasn't loaded up
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  Speaker 2: on the McNeese game, for one. But we could have
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  Speaker 2: used some of the TV copy stuff. But we felt
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  Speaker 2: like people might really care more so about looking ahead
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  Speaker 2: at the next SEC.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we were talking about, like, if we get, like,
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  Speaker 3: three clips of offense and three on defense maybe from
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  Speaker 3: McNeese just to kind of maybe highlight a couple of things.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But not a full breakdown like we normally do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I think it'd be fun. It was kind
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  Speaker 2: of fun to, like, think back to old scouting reports
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  Speaker 2: and be like, all right, I remember these coaches going
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  Speaker 2: up here and throwing up these tendencies. This is our
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  Speaker 2: third down. This is the percentages of blitzes. This is their,
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  Speaker 2: you know, third and.
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  Speaker 3: What was the– all right. What was the first thing
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  Speaker 3: when you got your scouting report in the NFL? First
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  Speaker 3: thing that you looked at. I feel like everybody had something.
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  Speaker 3: I know what mine was.
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  Speaker 2: First thing you looked at. Well, the thing that I
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  Speaker 2: always looked at the most was third down tendencies. And
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  Speaker 2: blitz tendencies. That didn't really come until Wednesday, though. That
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  Speaker 2: was a little bit later in the week.
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  Speaker 3: As soon as I got my packet. I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: the linebackers, and I'm seeing if they have a 5'10,
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  Speaker 3: 250-pound linebacker from Arkansas State or somewhere random like that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, boy.
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  Speaker 3: Fresno State.
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  Speaker 2: Did you know he had a heavy head?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, he was in there for one reason, to thump.
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  Speaker 2: He was in there to take out the fullback.
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  Speaker 3: I swear to God, the first thing I looked at, like,
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  Speaker 3: if they had one of those guys, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Like, all right. Mind right.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead and get the stingers ready because they're coming. Now,
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  Speaker 3: if they had like a 6'2, 235-pound linebacker from Florida State,
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  Speaker 3: let's ride.
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  Speaker 2: We're good.
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  Speaker 3: It was the 5'10, 245 from Missouri State that you
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  Speaker 3: had to really worry about.
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  Speaker 5: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 2: Because it wasn't his athleticism or his speed or his quickness.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 2: It was he's got the heaviest head you've ever felt
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  Speaker 2: on a human. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And he doesn't really want to make the tackle. No.
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  Speaker 3: That's not his objective. That's not why he's in there.
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  Speaker 3: He's in there to try to run right through you.
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  Speaker 2: If there was no– if helmets weren't worn in football,
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  Speaker 2: he's the guy that would have a bandana wrapped around
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  Speaker 2: his head? Yes. Like a bash bro? I looked for
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  Speaker 2: it every single time. That's what I looked for. And
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  Speaker 2: what they probably looked at every week was if the
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  Speaker 2: other team's offense had a short white fullback. Hell, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That played running back in college. That played running back
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  Speaker 2: in college because he was there for one reason.
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  Speaker 3: Just got a concussion thinking about it.
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  Speaker 3: All right there, Ross. What are you looking at so profoundly?
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to soak all this in and digest it.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: I wrote an article about NFL referees over the first
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: four weeks. Oh, they're throwing flags.
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Week four of the 2026 NFL season saw an average
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: of 17 penalties per game. Yeah. We had two that
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: got suspended.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Your boy Seaman got suspended two games for screaming F-U.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: At Trey McBride.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: That was just crazy.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: And then the.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Referee that didn't get out of the way and got
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: rolled up on, who got mad and started cussing at
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: multiple people, he got suspended.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: For a game. So 17 penalties per game. Good for
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: the NFL, finally, for doing something about it. Yeah, good
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: for them. It's the most penalties in a week since 2005.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: An average of 17 per game. And not only is
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: it penalties, just like random penalties, but it's impactful and
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: critical moment penalties. Yeah, I saw this step. Number one,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: most red zone penalties per game by offenses in history.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Number one, most penalties on third and fourth down in
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: the second half of games in the history. 17 touchdowns
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: so far have been nullified by penalty versus five in
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: 2025 and four in 2024. So not only are refs
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: impacting the game with a ton of penalties, but they're
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: impacting the most important moment and moments in games. It's
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: a ref show out there right now. And this isn't
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: just like.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Wait, everybody did not pay to go see them?
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: It's weird to say that. They should be like the
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: invisible part of the game, but sometimes it's about them. Now, look,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: this isn't just like coincidence that this is happening. You
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: might have a random week. And it's not just like
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: how offensive coaches forgot how to coach the details and
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: players forgot how to obey the rules. But this is
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: probably a reflection of what's coming down from the office,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: the league office. Because they'll tell you, like every year
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: there's a point of emphasis. Like there's a play that
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: we're going to emphasize these rules, so we're going to
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: judge it, officiate it a little bit tighter, a little
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: bit more harshly than normal. The NFL is going to
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: have to tell them to relax a little bit because
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: nobody wants impactful moments that are, that are being officiated
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: this hard. Yeah.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: When I saw the touch, like they've brought back more
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: touchdowns than they ever have before by like threefold.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay guys. Yeah. Like this is, it's a
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: little bit breaks a little bit.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: The only problem about NFL officiating in this situation, if
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: they do, and they probably already sent the memo out,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: then there's an overcorrection. They don't ever really find that
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: middle balance of what you're looking for. Then they'll start
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: letting way too much go.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: It's like, guys, no, no.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: We just want you to, like, use common sense in
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: what you're calling.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that, like, refereeing a game is hard. Like,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: it's challenging.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So is playing in a game. So is coaching
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: a game. So is calling a game. It's what you
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: have to do. Like, we played a high school football
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: game on Friday. And with every penalty that they threw,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: and this is both teams, like, on both teams, it
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: was like a 90-second meetup to talk about the penalty
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: that they called. Every one of them, 90 seconds.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Hey, let's meet. Let's talk about it. I'm like, no, no, no, no.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: When you grab for your hip and you throw the flag,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: you have seen something to make you throw it, correct?
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Okay. You have IBF. Hey, IFB.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: You get into the ear and you get into the
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: head official and you say, hey, I got holding on
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: number 68 or whoever.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: You move on.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I was like, guys, it's going to be midnight before
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: we get out of here.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: You don't have to meet on every penalty. If you
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: saw it, throw it, tell him what you saw, call it,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: and let's go.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Say it with your chest out. Yes. Throw that thing. Yes.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: I'm with you.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Like, everything in professional sports is hard. That's why it's professional.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Don't, like, limply drop the flag. Throw it. Throw that thing.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Be confident. And if you're not confident, let them play.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: If you think you saw a flag. No doubt. That's
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Don't do it. If you threw it,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: you threw it for a reason.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: It made you pick it out of your pocket or
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: your waistband. I'm not kidding you.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Like 20 penalties. It was a 90-second meeting after every.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: One of them. You didn't just do it so you
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: could go have a talk to your buddy. You threw
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: it because there was a penalty. Right. You think you
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: saw something? And guess what? You might have for sure
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: saw something that didn't happen, and that's okay. Just do it. Yeah.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Especially in high school football. Just throw the football. I
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: got it. We all make mistakes. And like you just said,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: I said refereeing is hard. It is very hard. Playing
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: in a game is hard. Coaching in a game is hard.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: But guess what? Players aren't perfect every game. There's lots
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: of mistakes. Coaches aren't perfect every game. There's lots of mistakes.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Referees' mistakes are highlighted way more than a player's mistakes are, right?
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: But they're the ones that have the control. Well, I mean,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: not Kendra. Not Kendra's mistake.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: We have to answer questions after they get to go home.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Exactly. That's, that's, that's kind of where I was going
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: with that. Like at least players are like Pat the chess.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I was, that was a mistake, whatever. And the referees,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: they do have, they do have New York city that
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: can call and they do have people that can correct
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: their mistakes. Players do not have that. And I will
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: say credit where credit's due. That has been a breath
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: of fresh air this year. The fast reviews, the quick reviews,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: that has been something very good, but this can't happen.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, 17 touchdowns in the first four weeks nullified
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: by penalties as opposed to five last year through the
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: first four games and four the year before through the
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: first four games. That's four times the amount. These are
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: impactful moments. 17 penalties per game was the average this
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: week in the NFL. That's so many. That is so
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: many penalties. It's not about you, ref.
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: No.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Just turn it down. Can we go with, like, 12? 10?
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: I am glad to see that the NFL did step
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: in and suspend.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: They weren't going to if it wasn't blatantly caught on camera.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: And I'm more saying the guy that was saying F
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: you to Trey McBride. Because, like, if we said that, like,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: 15 yards, we're getting fined probably $ 15, 000, I think, would
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: probably be.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: But honestly. Honestly. Referees say that stuff all the time. Oh,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: all the time. But, like, players are getting– or coaches
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: whisper sweet nothings to those refs the entire game. Yeah.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Those line judges, they catch hell, like, every– and sometimes,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: you know, after that first half, that line judge is like, oh,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: thank God I get to switch sides. Yeah. Because, like,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: that coach has let me have it.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Like, if I complain to the referee, it's always, you know,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: right behind the linebackers. And if I felt like they
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: were doing something– I mean, they would say, hey, get
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: your back to the huddle. We ain't doing that today.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: We ain't doing that stuff today. Stuff like that all
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: the time.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: But not an FU. But not a directly. So when
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I heard Vrabel got flagged for cursing at the referee
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: this past week, I was like, what? There could be
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: 75 flags thrown per game if a coach got flagged
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: for cursing at a ref. Just happens. But, like, yeah,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: eye contact, looking at you. That's a man-to-man FU.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: You know when you're calling somebody out and you, like,
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: lean towards them a little bit, you rubberneck a little bit,
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: and you're like, yeah.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: What are you going to do about it? You're going
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: to do nothing. You get two games at the house.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: You're going to be watching like us.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: We're going to suspend him with pay. Probably is. He
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: gets a vacation. That's what it is.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Give him a stipend for all his meals.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Well, he gets to go do his full-time job now.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: Through suspension with pay, I always think it's really funny. Like,
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: so he gets a vacation and doesn't have to take
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: any vacation days. That's basically it.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Sounds like a sweet gig. Good work if you can
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: get it. Full-time riffs. That is coming. I think sooner
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: rather than later, by the way.
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and then those refs are going to be like, well,
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: if this is going to be my full-time job, you
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: need to pay me more.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: And then that's going to be a whole thing.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: They do.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: And it's just going to be like a– it's going
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: to be a whole thing.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, they decided– They're.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: Going to have like a ref union or something.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: They do. They already do.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: They already have one?
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: They already have one.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: They need to– hey, we're going to pay you more.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: We are going to have full-time refs. And in the
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: off season, you know how the players have OTAs and
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: mini camp and training camp. Guess what you're going to have?
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, for sure.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: I actually, I sat from here to Flint from Roger
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Goodell during the draft. And I asked him that question.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: He said, that's on the table. He said, we were
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: thinking about having full-time referees, have them go to training
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: like players do throughout the year.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: The pay is going to go up. The benefits go up,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: but it's the NFL.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: You're, by far the most valuable professional sports league it's
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: not even that's not even remotely close you're four times
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: more valuable than anything else.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: The problem is is you're going to have a year
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: where it's going to be not good officiated because you're
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: going to pay him full time there's only so much
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: you can pay him and there's like well the guy
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: the other guy that got suspended yesterday i read out
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: yesterday he's like a rocket scientist like no they're going.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: To be taking pay cuts the guy that got Well,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: the guy that got pushed over is a rocket. But
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: there's also, like, I saw there's a head rep that's
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: a fire captain. There's one that's a, gosh, like a
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: volunteer part-time policeman in, like, the woods, you know, like
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: a rural area. It's not just, like, yes, there's attorneys,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: there's business owners, but there's some that are just.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: There's some that would be taking a pay cut, even
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: if the NFL paid them. Let's just say they paid
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: them half a million. There's probably some guys that are
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: taking a pay cut to do that.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: So you're going to lose some guys. Well, you'd have
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: to go poach. You'd go get the top official in
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: the SEC, the top one in the Big Ten. You'd
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: poach five officials of the five guys that would be like,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: I'm actually, like, basically an astronaut here, okay?
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. I'm not doing that.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: But just imagine if you went to full-time school. And, like, so, like,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: in the offseason, they're working on the speed of the game.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: They're working with a VR system. And, again, this is
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: all what the commissioner was telling us, so.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: And again, they're going to make mistakes even with that. Yeah.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Just take accountability. They are. And they did because you
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: got caught.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 31:31
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in, OTB.
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  Speaker 3: For the last two segments here of this hour, we're
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: probably going to get to some OTB mailbags, so go
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• 34:54
  Speaker 3: to some OTV Mailbag.
• 34:56
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• 34:58
  Speaker 4: just play this song.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, because of this song?
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:01
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you just do it.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: What the F is the internet?
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Any other line?
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: No, I think that's it.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: There's one with a German accent, I think. Oh, yeah.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: What is that one?
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: Fine, I'll just play it.
• 35:25
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• 35:27
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• 35:32
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• 35:34
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• 35:35
  Speaker 1: The internet.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: What the f * * * is the internet?
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: I mean, George Michael is so much better.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: I know what the internet is from Jay and Silent Bob.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Anywhoos.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Hashtag OTB mailbag. What's the most you've ever cost a company?
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking that that means like... Maybe you screwed up
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: at work. Maybe you ordered too much of something. Maybe
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: you didn't order enough. I'm not great at answering this
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: one because I've either played ball or talked about ball.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: That's about all I got. I'm sure, like, I messed
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: up a mower or two when I was mowing lawns
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: back in high school for some money.
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Probably a mower.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Maybe an edger.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Maybe a weed eater.
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: Hmm.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: You've made some hot mistakes.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: I cost my money.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Every day, probably.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Let's see.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: It's not true. You don't give any away.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: I cost the Raiders a lot.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Seahawks?
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: The Raiders. That's funny because it's true.
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: I feel like statute of limitations, I can say this.
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: I probably cost Six Flags a lot of money because
• 36:58
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• 37:01
  Speaker 6: me gift cards.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: And, like, that would be their ticket.
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: But the thing was you had to redeem the gift
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: card for a ticket at the ticket box.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: But they would just bring the gift cards to me.
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: And our supervisors were like, instead of sending them back
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: because the lines were super long, instead of sending them back.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Just take the gift cards and we'll pick them up
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: at the end of your shift. And I would always.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: pocket the gift cards.
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  Speaker 6: I would keep a couple and I would sell them
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  Speaker 6: and make like a.
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  Speaker 2: Hundred percent profit.
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  Speaker 3: We're getting a step more down the road.
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  Speaker 2: I thought she was just like, I'll keep a couple
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: of these.
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  Speaker 4: It was me and this guy, Joey.
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  Speaker 3: Joey?
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Joey. He was a bad influence.
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  Speaker 6: I feel like statute of limitations, I can say that.
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  Speaker 3: How long ago was that? The past 10 years?
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  Speaker 4: Past 10 years.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you're good. Statute of limitations.
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  Speaker 4: It was like 12 years ago, maybe.
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  Speaker 7: Six Flags is like, why is no one redeeming their
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  Speaker 7: gift cards? We gave out 100. Only six people used them.
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  Speaker 3: Would you sell, like, a $ 50 gift card for, like,
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  Speaker 3: 30 bucks?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would sell it for lower than market value
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  Speaker 6: for sure, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But I would make 100% profit.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. I will say we've had, like, at our business,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: at our, like, factory, we've had some mistakes by employees. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody makes mistakes. We get it. But there's, like, sometimes
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  Speaker 2: some mistakes are bigger than others.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And when you're making, like, big vats and 2,400 gallons
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  Speaker 2: of stuff, At a time.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And you mistake an ingredient for something. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That does cost you some money.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: It could be like a $ 25, 000 mistake. Yeah, and you
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: got to flush it, literally. And you got to flush
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: it down the drain. I watch it go down the drain. Oh, boy. Literally.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Hashtag OTB mailbag. How do y'all feel about the rest
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: of LSU's schedule after seeing the outcome of last weekend's
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: other games? I think college football is very unpredictable, and
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: I think I have a reason why. I think it's
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: because it's becoming so much like the professional game with
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: the way rosters are. You don't have the depth that
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: you once had. You've got really good front line. The
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: front line starters are more spread out across the country.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: So I think that you're going to have what we
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: think is going to happen not happen every weekend like
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: it used to because in the NFL, we're seeing it
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: all the time. NFL games, right? You're going to have
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: an 0-3 team beat a 3-0 team, and we're not
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: that surprised because it's the NFL game. Same thing, I think,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: in college football. The closer we get to being the NFL,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: the more unpredictable it's going to be.
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, Kentucky and Mississippi State, there's like tougher
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: games now than you thought they would be at the
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: beginning of the year.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's I'm, I'm so excited for the rest of
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: the season just because of, I love a, I love
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: a league. That's unpredictable. And that's what college football like forever.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: It was like, well, we know that these teams are
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: going to win every single week. Well, it's not really
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: like that anymore.
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: You got your juggernauts, you got your big boys, but like,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: it's a lot of parody and I know that word
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: is overused a lot when we talk about college football, but, um,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I I'm excited. And how do I feel about LSU
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: for the rest of the season? I think that you are,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: you've been dealt some bad blows with injuries. How many
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: of those two key people can you withstand and still
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: be considered a contender, um, remains to be seen, but
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: you are currently still a, absolutely a contender. Um, You
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: need to keep your wide receiver core. They need to
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: keep getting better every single week. Sam, because of this
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: hamstring injury, that's going to be the best thing that's
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: ever happened to him. Um, as he continues to heal, uh,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: he is playing very well. So I, I like it.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, with, even with the injuries, I like LSU
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: like stacks up and I'm excited for it. You're going
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: to have a fighting chance in every single game. And, uh,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I think that you'll come out on top of those, um,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: more times than not. So, We'll see. You just got
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: to win some of these big ones. Take care of
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: the ones you should win and pick off a couple
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: of the big ones. Give yourself a shot. But, yeah,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: how many injuries to key personnel can you withstand and
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: still be a contender? I don't know. All right.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: One more, then we're going to come back and we'll
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: continue mailbag. Hashtag OTV mailbag. Who do you all think
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: is a better running back, Gage or Barry? They're different
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: backs for sure. I can't deny what either one of
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: them did last weekend. Gage bigger back. I was glad
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: to see Barry be sudden to not think and just go.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: I think he's a much better running back when he
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: does that. I think Dylan Jones right now, there's a
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: gap between him and everybody else.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: He's special.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: But I think both of those guys, Barry and Gage,
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: have earned carries for sure.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: We're more familiar with Barry, too. We've seen him play
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: more football as LSU fans. Right.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: But it was good to see him go in and out,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: you know, go with a jump cut and then go
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: north-south immediately. That's as sudden as I've maybe ever seen him.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: And you can tell that it's been coached and harped
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: on and preached to him over the last couple of weeks.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: You have to be more sudden. You have to go faster.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: You have to play faster.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: And he did.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: But I do think there's a pretty big gap between
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Jones and– I'd probably go Jones, Berry, Gage right now.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: I agree. Yeah, I can't remember the pass protection reps
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: between– I'm trying to think of Gage and Berry on
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: their pass protection. We'll pull it up.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: We'll talk about it. We'll also finish mailbag when we
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: come back here on OTB.
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• 44:08
  Speaker 1: In otb here a little 80s tuesday uh you were.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: Asking about past protection between harlem berry and stacy gage
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: i'm just.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Going this is Off the pro football focus grade. So
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: I hadn't done like a– this is how many snaps.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Harlan Berry's grade, 18.2. Stacey Gage in pass protection, 81.6.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: 18?
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: 18.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Out of 100?
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Well, the Clemson game, he had like three pass protections,
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: and he got negatives on all three.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: So that gives you a little zero.
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: It was like a 70 against A & M and
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: then like a 50-something against McNeese. But Stacey Gage, 81.6
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: pass protection.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even remember him playing that much in
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: the first couple of weeks. Who? Harlem. No, he didn't.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: He wasn't.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: And then it's probably why. It's one of the reasons why.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Hashtag O2B mailbag. Do you want to feel old? In
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Back to the Future, when Marty travels back in time
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: to his parents' prom, the year is 1955. If the
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: movie was made today, he would travel back to 1995.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: I don't love.
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  Speaker 4: That.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: I wish. Oh, my goodness. That hurts. Jiminy Christmas.
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  Speaker 4: Twinkle in my daddy's eye, but I don't love that.
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  Speaker 3: KFC or Popeyes?
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: That's a tough question.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, is there a third option?
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: If we're picking, Popeyes.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: If we're having to pick, KFC.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: I love that famous bowl. I think I'm going to
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: go KFC, too.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: I think so.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like Popeye's.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: You don't like Popeye's?
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: I will smash some Popeye's.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: It's because of the cold Popeye's we'd get on the
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: plane seats. I love Popeye's.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: I'd smash Popeye's, but, like, the bowl?
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: The chicken sandwich was good a couple years ago.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Off the bench.
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  Speaker 2: The bowl's good.
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  Speaker 3: Just mix everything together.
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  Speaker 4: It's a bowl of slop, but it's the best slop.
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  Speaker 4: It really is.
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