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UN Women: Mawwiage is what bwings us together today! | HBR Talk 376 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: the top of the page. And with that, we are
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  Speaker 1: still on you and women. That sounds like some kind
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  Speaker 1: of a drug, doesn't it, But it's not. It's unfortunately
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  Speaker 1: just a well a misfortune that we're we're stuck with
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  Speaker 1: you and women, and it's mostly because no matter what
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  Speaker 1: country you're in right now, they're screwing around with your laws.
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  Speaker 1: If you live in any nation on the continent of
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  Speaker 1: South America or the continent of Africa, they are actively
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  Speaker 1: fucking with your laws right now. And that's what we've
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  Speaker 1: been looking at. This one is about Africa. And so
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  Speaker 1: if it's normal in your culture for marriage to have,
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  Speaker 1: say a tradition of the husband being the head of
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  Speaker 1: household and the wife being his helpmate, you might not
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  Speaker 1: like the feminist outlook on marriage here.
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  Speaker 2: It's like a drug that ruins your life and doesn't
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  Speaker 2: even feel good, like meth.
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  Speaker 1: Heroine. Yeah, uh but but unfortunately, Well, I guess I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how heroin would feel for other people, but
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  Speaker 1: I know I'm allergic to all opiates, so I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I guess heroin is appropriate because it's named after a
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  Speaker 2: female hero turns out to be uh an effect with
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  Speaker 2: diminishing returns.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, there aren't really very many real heroic female heroes.
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  Speaker 1: There are a lot of things people call female heroes,
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  Speaker 1: but actual heroes that are female are few and far between.
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  Speaker 1: Very sad situation. You have to go back in history
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  Speaker 1: to find them.
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  Speaker 2: For the most last the last we had in Britain
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  Speaker 2: was Thatcher, and everyone hated her. The one the last
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  Speaker 2: one before that was bout to see it, and that
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  Speaker 2: was like two fucking thousand years ago, three thousand years ago,
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  Speaker 2: I should say.
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  Speaker 1: So there you go, guys.
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  Speaker 2: And that's shrouded in the fog of history, shall we say.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, But I don't want to go through the entire
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  Speaker 1: thing to hear about marriage. But there's a couple of
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  Speaker 1: things that I do want to highlight. And this is
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  Speaker 1: kind of interesting, right, and again this is you and women.
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  Speaker 1: They want this encoded specifically into law in all nations
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  Speaker 1: in Africa. The first one sounds okay, right, No marriage
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  Speaker 1: still take place without the free and full consent of
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  Speaker 1: both parties, duh, right, But the second one is interesting.
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  Speaker 1: The minimum age for marriage shall be eighteen years would
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  Speaker 1: have been sufficient if that's the age of majority their
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  Speaker 1: age of adulthood there, which it might be, but that's
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  Speaker 1: not what it says. It says the minimum age of
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  Speaker 1: marriage for women will be eighteen years. So they only
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  Speaker 1: want it encoded into law that women can't get married
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  Speaker 1: before the age of majority. They don't want it encoded
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  Speaker 1: into law that women cannot marry underage boys. Kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 1: And then they want to dictate what marriage means. Monogamy
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  Speaker 1: is encouraged as the preferred form of marriage, and that
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  Speaker 1: the rights of women in marriage and family, including in
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  Speaker 1: poly polygamoust marital relationships, are promoted and protected. So this
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  Speaker 1: is another one they want. They want to say something
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  Speaker 1: is wrong, but then they also want to control it.
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  Speaker 1: Some cultures do have a tradition of a man being
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  Speaker 1: able to have more than one wife, and it is
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  Speaker 1: a cultural practice. It might be legal in the nation
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  Speaker 1: because it is a cultural practice, so they want to
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  Speaker 1: legislate that the culture has to change.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, I had to read this step a few times. Monogamy.
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  Speaker 2: Monogamy is encouraged as the preferred marriage, and that though
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  Speaker 2: it should be, but that the rights of women in
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  Speaker 2: marriage and family, including in polygamous marital relationships, are promoted
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  Speaker 2: and protected. So we prefer monogamy on paper. But if
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  Speaker 2: you happen to prefer uh, polygamy, that's fine too. This preference.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a rule, it's just a suggestion. So if
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  Speaker 3: you want your country taken over by certain religions and
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  Speaker 3: certain legal traditions or even the legal obligations that in force,
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  Speaker 3: that you have to go ahead with polygamous relationships.
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  Speaker 2: If a particular religion tells you that it's okay, then
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  Speaker 2: that's fine too. All right, Okay, that's good.
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  Speaker 1: So you know what's funny to me about this is
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  Speaker 1: in the United States, a lot of social justice warriors
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  Speaker 1: promote a lifestyle called polyamory, in which a couple may
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  Speaker 1: have another partner or two other partners or four or
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  Speaker 1: five depending on what their what their choices are, and
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  Speaker 1: one might have multiple male partners, or a man might
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  Speaker 1: have multiple female partners and they think it's great, which
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  Speaker 1: for most people, it's not. Most most couples, most groups
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  Speaker 1: can't really handle it, and especially if there is not
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  Speaker 1: a not a good gender balance to it, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of jealousy ensues and it results in a catastrophic breakdown
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  Speaker 1: of the relationship over time and eventually a blowout in
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  Speaker 1: most cases. But they encourage it anyway, and in particular
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  Speaker 1: multiple men with one woman, but apparently they're upset if
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  Speaker 1: the genders are reversed on that because you know, tradition
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  Speaker 1: is bad.
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  Speaker 2: And this and this is why we keep pointing out
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  Speaker 2: that the affectations of Islam, although of Westerners like to
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  Speaker 2: call Islam just just this horrifically misogynistic system where where
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  Speaker 2: where women are not given any advantages and only men
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  Speaker 2: are given the advantages. But here here we see Islam
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  Speaker 2: offers women the opportunity what, yes, it offers women the opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: To be with.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, the perfect man who earns millions every year, and
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  Speaker 2: and it offers multiple women to be with that same man.
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  Speaker 2: Like this is difficult to obtain in a monogamous culture
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  Speaker 2: where it's one woman to one man, because a lot
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  Speaker 2: of men will rise to the top of the heap,
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  Speaker 2: and that leaves shall we say, three quarters of men
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  Speaker 2: below the heap and uh and and in a culture
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  Speaker 2: where women demand all the power that men have, it
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  Speaker 2: is gives women the opportunity two to crowd together in
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  Speaker 2: fours and fives and sixes and and and crowd around
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  Speaker 2: the most successful men. It's the tournament species, folks. It's
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  Speaker 2: like what gorillas have. It's like, well, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: primates have where where women don't have to worry about
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  Speaker 2: having to settle for a for a lesser man or
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  Speaker 2: even the average man, the vast majority of them can
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  Speaker 2: can rally around the most successful men. And this is
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  Speaker 2: what we're seeing in so much of the West nowadays,
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  Speaker 2: ever since, ever since feminism h took route in our civilization,
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  Speaker 2: Like they all want the best of men, Like eighty
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  Speaker 2: percent of women want the best one percent of men,
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  Speaker 2: And like, how is that supposed to work? If anything
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  Speaker 2: is supposed to be monogamous. But yeah, it doesn't make
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  Speaker 2: sense from the from the pair bonding point of view,
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  Speaker 2: but it makes perfect sense from the tournament point of view,
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  Speaker 2: where where the majority of the women surround the the
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  Speaker 2: top percentile of men. And I feminists will say, this
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  Speaker 2: isn't feminism. Polygamy isn't feminism. Yes it is. Yes, it
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  Speaker 2: fucking is, because you all want resources from the very
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  Speaker 2: best of men. And so obviously, when when feminism reaches
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  Speaker 2: reaches its final conclusion, you will, you will all you'll
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  Speaker 2: be fine with sharing the top one percent of men
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  Speaker 2: because it's much better for you than than just pair
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  Speaker 2: bonding with someone at your same level. And how to
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  Speaker 2: quite explain what that same level is, Well, it's mostly financial,
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  Speaker 2: it's mostly based on resources. It's a difference between pair
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  Speaker 2: bonding and and tournament. Like I say, this is what
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  Speaker 2: made us distinct from the other ape species, that we
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  Speaker 2: could finally develop a pair bonding situation where women can
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  Speaker 2: be like, I don't need resources, I just need a
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  Speaker 2: man who's at my same level and will help me
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  Speaker 2: raise my children at the same level. But and that's
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  Speaker 2: what that is what we had for many thousands of years.
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  Speaker 2: But that wasn't good enough for women. Certainly not since
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  Speaker 2: the advent of romantic chivalry, and certainly not since the
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  Speaker 2: advent of the politicization of romantic chivalry that we call feminism.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, the end game of feminism is in fact
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  Speaker 2: something a bit like Islam. Yeah, I know, I know
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  Speaker 2: that's hard for people to hear because they think, well,
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  Speaker 2: surely Islam is the opposite of feminism. No, no, it is.
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  Speaker 2: It is. It is the end game of feminism where
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  Speaker 2: women can just be like, I don't give a fuck
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  Speaker 2: about men as human beings. I only we only give
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  Speaker 2: a fuck about men as as as as bank as wallets,
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  Speaker 2: as resource monkeys. And if it and if it means
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  Speaker 2: four of us have to share the same rich man
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  Speaker 2: rather than each one of us having to pare bond
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  Speaker 2: with the average man, then hell yes, we'll take four
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  Speaker 2: of us crowding around the richest man, or indeed more
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  Speaker 2: than four of us, or indeed all of us crowding
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  Speaker 2: around the richest entity called the government. And that's what's
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  Speaker 2: happening at this point. The majority of women in any
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  Speaker 2: given country in the West is crowding around this abstract
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  Speaker 2: secular replacement for the male godhead, that is the government.
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  Speaker 1: The most well known historical incarnation that I think is
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  Speaker 1: King King Solomon and his five hundred wives. And I
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  Speaker 1: just I just want to remind everybody that in in
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  Speaker 1: the Book of Proverb Proverbs written by King Solomon, no
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  Speaker 1: less than four times he talked about just how awful
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  Speaker 1: it is living under the same roof as a quarrelsome woman.
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  Speaker 1: He also he also wrote other verses about the character
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  Speaker 1: of a quarrelsome woman, and you know, it's just stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that, but no less than four times he specified
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  Speaker 1: that it was better to live in the far far
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  Speaker 1: corner of the roof of the house than under the
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  Speaker 1: roof with a quarrelsome woman exposed to the to the
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  Speaker 1: weather and sandstorms and whatever else might be happening, because
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  Speaker 1: who wants to be around her? Who wants to be
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  Speaker 1: around that bitch? Right? And and as essentially the conclusion
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  Speaker 1: of having five hundred wives is that that bitches be unpleasant.
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  Speaker 1: So there you go. Uh And in terms of in
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  Speaker 1: terms of you know, multiple partner marriage, though it's it
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  Speaker 1: is very interesting to me feminists treat polygamy uh in
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  Speaker 1: in Western countries as though it demeans women and as
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  Speaker 1: though it is ownership and such, right, but then then
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  Speaker 1: they encourage polyandria. So what does that say about how
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  Speaker 1: they think of men? And in the meantime, you know,
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  Speaker 1: again like this, this is a cultural thing. You cannot
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  Speaker 1: just dictate in law that a culture will change. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't work. And the way that people handle it is
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  Speaker 1: simply the same way that people who want to be
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  Speaker 1: in polyamorous relationships in the West handle it. They have
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  Speaker 1: maybe one couple actually gets married, maybe two couples actually
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  Speaker 1: get married, and then all four of them live together,
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  Speaker 1: but they're obviously not all four able to be married
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  Speaker 1: to each other. Some of the partners aren't legally married,
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  Speaker 1: and some of them are. And it doesn't seem to
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  Speaker 1: be the thing that destroys these relationships. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: it usually does result in things like jealousy, and they're
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  Speaker 1: really rotten. Thing about polyamorous relationships as opposed to you know,
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  Speaker 1: cultural polygamy is that a lot of times you have
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  Speaker 1: it starts out open, or people confuse polyamory with open relationships,
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  Speaker 1: and then you have this discovery that for every opportunity
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  Speaker 1: the male partner gets to be with somebody other than
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  Speaker 1: the female partner, the female partner will get ten to
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  Speaker 1: fifty opportunities and turn most of them down but not
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  Speaker 1: all of them, and she will accept more than he
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  Speaker 1: gets in most cases, and that usually leaves him out
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  Speaker 1: in the cold. And it's particularly bad thing when it
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  Speaker 1: is that that gender balance, because men do have stronger
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  Speaker 1: and more frequent libido than women do. Where with polygamous relationships,
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  Speaker 1: at least, what you've got going on in that household
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  Speaker 1: is the sex with the the lower libido gets to
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  Speaker 1: split the the wifely duties among themselves, and the sex
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  Speaker 1: with the higher libido has more opportunity, so that that
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  Speaker 1: that actually fits the sex is better. Not that it's
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  Speaker 1: an ideal relationship. I have come to the conclusion that
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  Speaker 1: for the majority of people, monogamy works best. It's a
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  Speaker 1: very rare thing for you run into people that actually
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  Speaker 1: can handle any polyamorous relationship, whether it's polygamy, polyandry, whether
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  Speaker 1: it's an open relationship, whatever. I think that more often
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  Speaker 1: than not, what you end up with is multiplication of
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  Speaker 1: the conflicts that take place in relationships, the problems that
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  Speaker 1: you have to solve in order to keep your relationship strong.
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  Speaker 1: And you don't necessarily get a multiplication of the dedication
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  Speaker 1: that it takes and the the ethics that it takes
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  Speaker 1: in your relationship to keep the relationship strong, and so
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  Speaker 1: it falls apart. But again, you know, I wouldn't go
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  Speaker 1: to some other country where the norm is polygamy and
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  Speaker 1: say you guys have to change, because I think because
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  Speaker 1: that's bullshit. Things are different in a culture where that's
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  Speaker 1: the cultural norm that you know, that's their business to
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  Speaker 1: figure out, and I don't a world government shouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: getting involved in that. And in fact, I genuinely think
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  Speaker 1: the government should get the fuck out of marriage altogether.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing that government should have to do with
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  Speaker 1: it is if you make a marriage contract and then
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  Speaker 1: someone violates the contract, the other person should be able
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  Speaker 1: to take the violator to court for breach of contract.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. Everything else, you know, should be handled by
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  Speaker 1: the contract and not by the government. The church maybe
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  Speaker 1: if your if your marriage is through a church, and
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  Speaker 1: if it's not a contract, would would still cement the marriage.
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  Speaker 2: I have to I have to contend this idea that
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  Speaker 2: men have a greater libido than women. It seems that
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  Speaker 2: way in a lot of contexts, but when you look
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  Speaker 2: at the the kind of entertainment that women prefer compared
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  Speaker 2: with the kind of entertainment that men prefer. I mean
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  Speaker 2: men prefer action movies and women prefer romance movies and that,
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  Speaker 2: and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but romance movies are made to appeal to women's egos,
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily their libido. No, like especially rom coms like
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  Speaker 1: those are those are ego not they're they're vanity boosters.
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  Speaker 2: And again we look at the pawn that men and
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  Speaker 2: women consume. There's this stereotype that men that men need
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  Speaker 2: pornography because they can't possibly survive without thinking of sex
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  Speaker 2: every seven seconds. And that's a total lie. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: this one of this is one of these factoids that's
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  Speaker 2: just been expressed across the civilization with their ever being
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  Speaker 2: fact checked, that men think about sex every seven seconds,
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  Speaker 2: without ever expressing how often women think about sex. I
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  Speaker 2: think I think women think about sex more than men do.
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  Speaker 2: And is only one element of this difference, the idea
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  Speaker 2: that men think about sex more than women think about sex.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like utter bollocks to me. It's just the
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  Speaker 2: main difference is what turns men on and what turns
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  Speaker 2: women on. Men can easily find something that turns them
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  Speaker 2: on sexually. With women, they find it more difficult to
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  Speaker 2: find something that turns them on sexually, because with men,
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  Speaker 2: all they need is a woman, a woman who looks
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  Speaker 2: like a woman and acts like a woman, and who
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  Speaker 2: is generally nice to them. But a woman is not
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  Speaker 2: turned on until she has found a towering resource monkey,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. That's more difficult to find.
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  Speaker 2: It's not it's it's it's not though the women have
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  Speaker 2: a lower libido. It's just that they have higher standards
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  Speaker 2: in partners.
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  Speaker 1: Than there's There's been numerous studies that have shown that
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  Speaker 1: men have more frequent and more intense sexual desires in women.
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  Speaker 1: Women might think about sex a lot, but a lot
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  Speaker 1: of women's thoughts about sex are about how to use
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  Speaker 1: it in a manipulative way, or that's still how to
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  Speaker 1: be the center of a man's No, it's not libido.
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  Speaker 1: That's not libido. Uh, that that's ego again, like libido
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  Speaker 1: is your desire, your desire for sexual gratification and sexual
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  Speaker 1: intimacy and relativeness isn't intimacy and it's not sexual gratification,
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  Speaker 1: it's material gratification. So there there is a difference, and
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  Speaker 1: it's the reason why women are so able to use
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  Speaker 1: sex to manipulate men, because I.
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  Speaker 2: Guess that explains why almost all prostitutes are women.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, almost all prostitutes are are Almost all prostitutes
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  Speaker 1: are are in service to men, but that there are
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  Speaker 1: prostitutes that are in service to women as well, And
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  Speaker 1: and that's the other thing. Women's libido peaks at a
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  Speaker 1: much older age than men's libido peaks at, which is odd.
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  Speaker 1: But see, then you get these horny, divorced, middle aged
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  Speaker 1: women that go to foreign countries where male prostitution is
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  Speaker 1: more it's easier to find on sex tourism vacations basically,
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  Speaker 1: and usually they go looking for teenage boys, which I
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  Speaker 1: think is really gross, But that's because I raised kids.
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  Speaker 1: I would think that most women who raised kids would
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  Speaker 1: think that was really gross, but apparently that's not the case.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Then again, some women apparently like men who are built
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: like cattle. So what do I know? But yeah, women's
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: women's libido is weirder than men's libido, and women will
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: respond with sexual readiness to things that have absolutely nothing
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: to do with sex. But they in terms of actually
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: being in the mood and deciding to do something or
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: wanting to do something, it is a more frequent experience
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: among men, and as a result, women do end up
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: using sex to manipulate men. Women do sell sex more
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: than men sell sex. And you know, men are stuck
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: in a position of involuntary celibacy more often than women are.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: And I would say the women that are all clamoring
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: for the top guy that don't merit the top guy
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: are not involuntarily celibate. They're just refusing to uh to
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: play in their own league. So whereas there are men
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: who don't have a league, and it's it sucks and
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: it doesn't seem fair that there should be people who
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: don't have a league, there are not very many women
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: who don't have a league, but there are men who
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: don't even even women who are in the category of
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: like profound intellectual disabilities and physical disabilities like where that
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: might keep a man from being able to find a partner,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: it doesn't keep a woman from being able to find
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: a partner. So you know, there is a significant difference
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: in standards, and a lot of it is partly because
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: now part of it I think is because men have
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: always had to be nicer, but part of it is
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: because men are more The word is desperate doesn't fit,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: but definitely interested. Men are more interested.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: All things being equal, it sounds the reason that the
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: most sex desperate people the elderly, The elderly who have
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: not found a partner, and that seems to be the
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: case with women. Elderly or middle aged women who have
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: not yet found a partner are the horniest, but the
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: horniest males. It goes all the way up and down
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: the age spectrum, including men in their twenties and men
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: in their thirties, because they find it so difficult to
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: find a woman. And I don't think that's necessarily natural.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: I think it's because we live in an age where
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: women have unbelievably high standards, and if anything, men have
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: unbelievably low standards, but not such low standards that they
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: will that they will get with a sixty year old woman.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: And that's why a sixty year old woman has to
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: go to these tropical locations to find all the way
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: all the way to these tropical locations in order to
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: find a teenage man slash boys who's willing to give
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: it up for money. Whereas whereas, whereas men of all ages,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: including teenagers, can have trouble finding a woman with low
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: enough standards, I mean even average enough standards to pair
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: up with the average twenty year old or teenage boy
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: such I mean, a woman in her twenties or indeed
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: a teenager woman or even a woman in her thirties
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: doesn't have to look for a male prostitute, because, as
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Karen's often said, they could just go to a man
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: at a bar and whisper some whispers and sweet nothings,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: some dirty somethings in a man's ear, and that's that.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: They can just go ahead and do that, whereas whereas
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: men don't have option, And that seems normal to us
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: in this day and age. But let's not forget this
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: day and age has been ravaged with feminism for the
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: last dred years and indeed romantic chivalry for the last
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: thousand years. So it's hard to say how much of
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: this is natural, how much of this comes down to
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: the natural libido of men and women. I think men
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: and women have similar libidos. I think they both think
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: about sex all the time, especially if they're not having sex.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: It's the younger they are down to and including teenage years,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: the more they think about sex. But it's just it's
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: remarkably difficult for men in the West to find sex
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: unless they happen to be millionaires, and it's remarkably easy
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: for women in the world to find sex even if
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: they happen to be milkmaids.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Or whatever whatever. By the way, we did get a
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: super super child from Meredith G for five dollars and
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: she said, HBr talk three seventy six honey for the Badgers.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Thanks for the thought provoking conversation and speaking of thoughts.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: So you and women, not only are they wanting to
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: dictate how marriage works, but also where people how people's
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: agreements on where to live work. So in some cultures
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: it is normal that when men and women get married,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the man already has property. In fact, he's not an
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: eligible bachelor without it, and so when he gets married,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: his wife is expected to move in with him because
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: he is her provider. And that's been historically traditional for
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: a long time. But in this they want it set
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: in all nations legislation. They want it legislated that the
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: husband and wife shall, by mutual agreement, choose their matrimonial
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: regime and place of residence. Which is interesting because if
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: you are in a polygamous marriage. So the husband already
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: has a mansion or palace or other big place of residence,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: and he's got three other wives, and you are wife
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: number four. Do you really get to say, I want
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: you all to move to my village or my town,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: my community, my city, my province, whatever, so that we
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: can be close to my family. It is quite an
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: interesting question. If they're not going to suggests that monogamy
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: is required, then it's kind of silly to suggest that
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: the the the fourth wife gets to say and where
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: the family is going to live, you know, and obviously
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: you know when it is a monogamous relationship, and and
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: if the marriage is consensual by both parties, then you
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: know she is consenting to either move in with him
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: or they've made arrangements otherwise. But nope, they want it
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: legislated as if women somehow don't get that consent. And
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: then they also want married women to be able to
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: keep their maiden name retain their nationality. So say, for example,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: if a Canadian woman came to the United States and
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: married a US man, they want the Canadian woman to
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: remain Canadian, which would really complicate things in a marriage
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: like that in the US but in African nations, this
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: is what they want. They want the woman to be
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: able to determine the national nationality of their children unless
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: the other national legislation basically contradicts it or it's a
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: national security risk. Like you marry somebody from a warring nation,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: they can't decide their kids are part of that nation.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: And they want they want women to have separate property
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: of their own in a marriage. So what they're essentially
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: doing there is saying that they want women to be
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: able to be married on paper and remain unmarried. Everywhere
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: else you think about that. Feminism has fought tooth and
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: nail in the West to break down and destroy the
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: institution of marriage, to separate wives from their husbands and
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: fathers from their children, and to ensure that women feel
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: enslaved by marriage rather than in a partnership being in
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: a partnership. And this seems to be part of that.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: But they've fought tooth and nail to reduce men's rights
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: in the event of a marriage, but not the government's
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: stranglehold over how marriage works legally. And I've often been
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: of the opinion that the government should not be evolved
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: involved in marriage inso far as the government is involved
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: in anything, Like, if two people love each other and
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: they want to bring their families together in matrimony, then
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: they should absolutely be able to, but the government shouldn't
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: be involved in it. And in light of my own situation,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I really want to move to the
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: US because my country is fucked. It's gonna get taken
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: over by sharia law any day now, So I really
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: want to move to the US. And if marriage is
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: what it takes, then fuck it. I'll go against all
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: my megtail vows and all the fucking do it. But
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: the fact any of this is even held hostage by
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: the government in the first place is I like to
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: think it's it's it's a way into the country, but
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: it isn't. It's it is it should never have been
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: a way to keep people out in the first place.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: It's the worst part about it is it's the only
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: way to get to live in the same country as
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: the woman you're going to be with, and it's you
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: have to tell the government, yes, we will make this
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: legal and we'll get you involved in a relationship. So technically,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: every every relationship in the United States and any western
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: nation that you know, any nation that has legislation that
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: just determines what happens in a marriage and what defines
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: a marriage and so on. It's they're all in a
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: way polyamorous and all incestuous. It's husband, wife and uncle Sam,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: although in other countries it's not uncle Sam. So there
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: you go. But yeah, it is a rotten situation. My
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: husband and I, the only reason that we went with
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: getting married legally or was because people treat your relationship
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: like it's not real if you don't get the government
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: involved in it. I care about the church's involvement in
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: it simply because the church family will support the marriage,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: but the government doesn't do that. In fact, the government
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: kind of facilitates the breakup of the marriage more than
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: it facilitates the unity of the marriage. So I saw
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: the government as a problem and didn't really want to
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: get it involved. But the government doesn't give you much choice.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't really count your relationship. If something
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: happens to your partner and you you need to be
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: there for the partner. You don't have any rights in
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: regard to your your marital relationship and your responsibilities to
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: your partner if you have not made the government a
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: part of your relationship. So it's a terrible thing. And
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: if you are from a different country than your partner,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: you don't have the legal right to live in the
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: same country as your partner unless you make the government
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: part of your relationship.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: And that's that's the only thing the government is supposed
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: to be full, isn't it. I mean controlling the relationships,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: controlling the borders between people from one country and another country.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: And yeah, in many ways that sucks, but in many ways,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: that's what a government is for. That's the only thing
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: a government is for controlling and the rights of citizens
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: between one nation and another. And Okay, fine, I guess
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: that's what stops. That is what's supposed to stop millions
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: of shadow beasts from invading your country just because it's
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: the they can force the hand of whatever maidens they
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: can find in another country. Yeah, And I don't know
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: any easy way through this situation other than having at
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: least a small government. Like I'm not a total fucking
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: anarchist in any of these ways. Like it's important. The
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: whole idea of having a national government is to uphold
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: an as opposed to another nation, to keep these nations separate,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: so that they don't get invaded by other nations.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that you and women can't come along and
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: tell you what marriage has to be in your country
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: because of the way they feel about marriage in their countries. Yeah.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: And of course everything that we just read, the ultimate
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: goal of it is actually right here in Part D
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: of their statement on separation, divorce and an allment of marriage.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: In case of separation, divorce or a moment of marriage,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: which they're attempting to cause with their stipulations on marriage,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: women and men shall have the right to an equitable
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: sharing of joint property deriving from the marriage. So what
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: they really want is women to be able to monopolize
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: a rich man and then divorce him and take half
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: hish it like they do in the US. That is
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: the end game for you and women. Not making marriage
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: better for men and women, not uh, supporting functional relationships,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: not helping to prevent abuse or abandonment or you know,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: neglect or anything like that. Nope, in case of in
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: case of divorce, which they will encourage, she gets half
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: half Eddie. So that was the main thing I wanted
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: to look at tonight in terms of this, Uh, the
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: the their their little thing about marriage. I may come
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: back to more as I go through this uh more
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: details of this particular document, but I think you guys
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: get the gist at this point. They don't notice that
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: they discuss rights that the wife shall have. Mostly occasionally
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: they reference mutual agreement when when the woman gets to
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: decide if the man has to move, and then of
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: course you have an equitable division of property that was
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: owned by the husband before the marriage more likely than not.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: And they're doing the same thing in Spain. I'm not
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: going to I don't know if I'm going to try
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: to get into that tonight. I think I might look
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: more at that on another day, because if I remember,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: I had to have it go through a translation. So
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: we are going to finally look at the second article
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: that I referenced earlier, UH five or six shows ago
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: how to counter the manispheer's toxic influence. Remember, the goal
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: encountering the manuspher's toxic influence is to stop us from
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: influencing men and the men that we influence from influencing
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: governments against the passage of legislation like we just looked at.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: So they don't want men to stop governments from ensuring
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: that women can marry wealthy men and then divorce them
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: and take half their shit. They want to make sure
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: that women. Women are considered uh special. They don't have
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: to earn anything, they can just marry into it and
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: then take with them when they leave.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why why why does such institutions never speak of
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: such a thing as the femisphere. Why is there not
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: considered to be any such thing as as this femisphere. Well,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: it's because the un is part of the femisphere. It's
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: because the mainstream media is part of the femosy. It's
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: because world governments are part of the femisphere, and so
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: they're just considered normal. It's much like this illustration that
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: I've been trying to paint since since ten years ago,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: that the femisphere is the outer mantle of the human species,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: and the manisphere is is this inner part that's considered
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: to be normal, but at the same time considered to
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: be so abnormal as to be toxic. Like, the femisphere
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: is not a thing. It's not considered to be a thing,
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: even though it must be. If there's a manisphere, there
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: must be a femisphere. But it's not just it's just
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: it's not considered a threat, no matter how, no matter
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: what happens, no matter how deeply into our civilization, feminism
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: buries its clause. It's is never considered to be a
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: threat to the status quo because it is the status quo.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: It's been the status quo, and not just for a
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: hundred years, but for a thousand years. And and I
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: don't know if, even though, if that's the top end
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: of the estimation or if it's the lower end, but
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: it's ever since romantic chivalry has been installed as part
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: of our civilization, and that is at least a thousand years.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Interestingly, an example of this is actually your organization. We're
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: looking at you and women. Did you know that there
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: is no such organization as you and men?
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Of course not. Why would it be. Men have always
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: been in charge. They don't need rights.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what we're told. Men have always been
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: in charge and they don't need rights. That's why anytime
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: human rights activism takes place in another country where there's starvation, war, poverty, disease, uh,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: you know, any kind of despotism, and where women are
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: being you know, treated like like meat and men are
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: being treated like dead people because they're getting killed then uh, yeah,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: all of the women's organizations rush to make sure that
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: women get the lie in's share of resources and protections. So,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: and even in nations that are not not what you
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: would necessarily call third world, like India is it sort
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: of fits that second world definition where it has a
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: lot of first world amenities and a lot of first
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: world issues, but it still has third world problems at
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: the same time, and one of those is widespread poverty.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: And as soon as a system existed to provide through
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: through government through people's tax dollars, essentially to provide food
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: for people who couldn't afford to buy their own food,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: it was given to the women to control. And to
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: the degree that men can't get help on their own.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: If a man doesn't have a wife or a mother,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: or a sister or a daughter living in his home,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: he has no access to this system because only women
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: are allowed to receive this free food, and then then
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: they determine they're supposed to distribute it who gets It's again,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: the majority of people living without any family support at
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: all in India are men. So they essentially took took
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: a problem that it affects both sexes, and it affects children.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: But there are more men who are totally on their
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: own than there are women who are totally on their own.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: And they went, well, we've got to help those women,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: completely ignoring the men. Yeah, in the US, only only
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: twenty five percent of the homeless are are women. And
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: if I remember my stats right, only five percent of
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: unsheltered homeless or women. The rest, the seventy and the
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: ninety five percent are men. And the lion's share of
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: resources are reserved for women, women with children, women without children.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Their order seems to go women with children, women without children,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: men with children, men without children. And so men who
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: are alone, men who I'll often end up. You know,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: they have a mental illness or they have an addiction,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: which in its own way is a mental illness. They
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: they are nothing, They don't have anybody to take them in.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: They don't have they can't go to shelters because they're
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: considered dangerous, especially if they have an addiction, you know,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: like you can't be on a substance and go to shelter,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: So soup kitchens will even kick you out. So men
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: with real serious issues, they're just on the street until
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: they die. And it's a horribly unfortunate situation for them.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: And yet when you see reporting on homelessness, it almost
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: always features the women who are getting the most help
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: as opposed to the men who need the most help. Right, so, yeah,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: women are the femisphere is the establishment, You're right? So
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: how this is why you and women wants to counter
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: the manisphere, by the way, because we're a threat to
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: their grift. How to counter the manisphere's toxic influence? What
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: do they think will stop us? What will get rid
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: of us forever? So they say, everybody loses in a
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: world with gender inequality, even the digital world. But in
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: the manisphere, influencers are spreading and profiting from controversial content
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: that fuels misogyny. So everybody loses in a world with
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: gender and inequality, but apparently not when it affects men.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: It's misogyny. When we talk about the fact that sometimes
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: it affects men.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: Contra, if you have if you have such a thing
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: as gender, yeah, then you necessarily have such a thing
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: as inequality. I mean, gender is this bullshit word that's
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: it means essentially the same thing as genre. It's not
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: a coincidence that these are similar words. They're the same
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: words gender and genre me mean the same thing. It's
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: just another word for type, and acknowledging that there are
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: different types of human it counts as inequality, And yes
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: it does, because yes, there are different types of human,
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: just like there are different types of genre among anything
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: that you can get to call genre, like different genres
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: of movie or book or whatever. Yes, there are differences
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: between horror and thriller and romance and stuff like this,
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: And yes that does track onto men and women because
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: men and women like different genres because they are different genders. Like,
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: like I say, it's whatever, the opposite of a tautology
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: is gender inequality is well, well, the gender inequality is
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: a tautology because in the existence of genders, you necessarily
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: have the existence of inequality. And yeah, it's we could
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: have a government that doesn't treat men and women differently legally,
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: except in instances where they necessarily have whether they're necessarily
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: are differences like pregnancy and and that's why it's so
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: easy for feminists to focus on these differences when it
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: comes to things like pregnancy and abortion and stuff like that,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: because that necessarily is a difference. But it's harder for
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: them to see the issues that men face because they're
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: less tangible than the things that women face. I mean,
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: women get pregnant, what do men get? Well, evolution has
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: started this out, and indeed the society and civilization they
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: have started this out because they sort of figured out
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: that women get pregnant, So what should we do with
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: men two to equal out the what what women have
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: to deal with in the event of pregnancy. And yet, yes,
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: this is already been figured out, that constraints should be
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: put on men in the event of being party to
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: a pregnancy. And yeah, that has already happened. Like, if
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: a man is party to a pregnancy, he should be charged,
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: he should be tracked down and forced two two to
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: give what he owes to the pregnancy. All these feminists
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: and all these un women people sort of acting as
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: though men have never been forced to contribute to the
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: well being of child, whereas they have for a long
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: ass time if you go back as far as prehistoric times. Yeah, no,
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: I guess they haven't.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Family have always done that. Actually, families of historically families
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: have tracked down fathers and uh imposed accountability on them
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: if you want to. If you want a more recent
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: historical example, the Elizabethan Poor Laws introduced the idea that
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: the government will track down the father of a wayward mother,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: and it.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Predates, it predates, it predates governments for as long as
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: we've had tribes, and we've had tribes for tens of
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: thousands of years. But you can't just escape your tribe
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: and go in and go into the wilderness if you
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: if you're a man who's impregnated a woman and doesn't
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: want to have to do with that. But that's a
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: rare case because when a man impregnates a woman, even
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: in the pre post prehistoric tribal days, he would like
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: be yay, I've got a child, because yeah, I I men,
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: it's homo sapien. Homo sapien. Males have this cognitive ability
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: because because they have such big brains, they're able to
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: figure out that, oh, yeah, because this woman is pregnant
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: because I did this thing that we now realize makes
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: it a pregnant that they're like, oh, this means my
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: child is involved, and and and this is where I
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: have to argue with the ghost of Terence McKenna and
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: many other people like the idea that when a man
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: knows a child is his, that that's that's a terrible
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: thing that brings down that that can bring the human
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: race into into into uh disrepute and despoils and and
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: and and can turn us all in the right direction. No,
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: I completely disagree. When a man knows that a child
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: is his, he will do anything for that child.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: This is something that didn't happen in in the days
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: before that, when when a man had no way of
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: knowing that a child was it. And that goes back
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: a long fucking way long before we had anything like
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: the human brains we have now. I mean, I think
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: even gorillas and chimpanzees sort of have some perhaps pheromonal
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: sense of knowing which children are theirs. But Homo sapiens
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: has this intellectual way of even allowing men to know
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: which children are theirs, and when they do, they will
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: do anything for that child. In fact, that they don't.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: They don't need to be forced to to do whatever
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: they can for that child. They they will do it
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: by default because they have this this this psychological bonding
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: with that child like it. It can work on its own.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: You don't need to force them to figure it out
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: using the government. I mean, in some rare cases in
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: some cases that have been applied with these racist stereotypes
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: or whatever. But I don't think any of these racist
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: stereotypes really apply like anywhere. Like men love their children,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: Homo sapien, males love their children just as much as
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: female hope Homo sapiens does. I'm sorry if that's controversial,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: but I don't think it is. I think more actually
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: because what.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Many men killing their babies as you do?
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: Well indeed, but maybe that's because they're not afforded to.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: But but yeah, this is one of the unique This
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: is one of the unique things about Homo sapiens, that
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: that men are just as chemically and neurologically bonded to
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: their children as as women are. And we do ourselves
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: a disservice if we if we deny this, and we've
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: we've been ravaged with this denial of this a biological
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: evolutionary truth, and we should probably get back to that truth.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just just a note for the chat. We already
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: know that Mike's microphone, the static thing is happening, and
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: there's not a lot to can be done about it
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: at this point unless it is replaced. So we're just
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: going to deal with it. I think the more that
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: it gets moved to and messed with the worst the
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: worst that they dound so but in any case, yeah,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: I mean when you look at what men do when
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: they when they parent a child versus what women do,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: especially in modern sense, because women have a tendency to
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: drop their children off with strangers to to and pay
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: them to watch the child for hours and hours so
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: that they can emulate men in the workplace where and
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: women today as a as a population. And I know
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: that this is probably similar to violent crime, and that
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: the percentage of women who are doing it is smaller,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: and many of them are repeat offenders. But three and ten,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: so nearly a third of pregnancies that occur today are
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: are ended. They they end in a elective abortion. That is,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: it's not a miscarriage, and it's it's not done because
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: they the doctor is reducing the number of imminent deaths
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: caused by the pregnancy by one by saving the mother's life.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: But yeah, men, men will work themselves to death to
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: provide for their children, to give them a better life,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: to make sure that they're able to provide for themselves
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: when they become adults. They will They'll die in a
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: fire trying to get their children out of the house.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: They will, you know, they'll protect their whole family. They
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: will live with a woman who treats them like shit,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: who abuses them, who spends their their money before they
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: make it, who doesn't even have sex with them anymore,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: as long as they can take care of their children.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: And men are they sex that has had to fight
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: for their custodial rights for the last one hundred years.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: And men have had to fight not only weird preconceived
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: notions like the idea that God made women parents but
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: not men, which was a feminist idea. Carolyn Norton who
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: wrote the Oh, I can't think of what it was called.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: It had a word of infants in it with an
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: e something of Infants Act. But it's essentially it was
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: the tender years doctrine, and the legislators in the UK
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: bought that, and then it being English common law, it
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: bled over into US law, and the US kind of
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: did the same thing, that women would get primary custody
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: and divorce up to like the age of seven, and
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: you know, unless there was some really weird extenuating circumstance,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: and ever since then, you know, men had to first
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: fight for joint custody and then shared parenting and eventually
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: equally shared parenting, and every step of the way, feminist
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: groups fought against it. Every step of the way, feminists
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: have opposed fathers taking care of their children. Men have
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: fought for the right to mentor and protect their children.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: You know, so clearly you have a difference there. Women
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: fought for the right to kill their babies, and men
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: fought for the right to mentor and protect their children,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: to love and care and nurture for their children and
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: not just be walking wallets. Which is again one of
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: the reasons why the femisphere fears us, because we notice
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: things like that and we point out these laws are important.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: They're good for children, they're good for fathers, and despite
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: many mothers vehement protests, they are good for mothers. There
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: are benefits to the mother when the father is involved.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Women who are not raising their children by themselves live longer.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Women who have an involved father raising their children with
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: them are happier, They show less signs of stress. Because
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't say they. My husband and me raised our
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: kids together. We were a team and for me that
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: was a very fun time, even even with the stress
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: of having you know, the second family and ex wife
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: and child support bills to pay and all that. Just
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: having that partnership and the teamwork and the family being
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: together and everything that meant a lot, and it does
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: change your whole life. It does make your whole life better.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: And these women will cut their nose off despite their face,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: and they will con other women into doing the same thing.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: I think. And it's more important to get half the
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: marital property all to yourself without the husband than it
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: is to have his partnership in raising your children. It's insane.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: So they go on, they claim that we promote unhealthy
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: definitions of masculinity and normalize violence against women and girls.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: So if you look at the men's rights movement, the
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: most vocal aspects of our our participation in the discussion
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: on innimate partner and sexual violence have all been about
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: ways to reduce that type of violence and the fact
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: that female violence is a huge contributing factor to family violence.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: So we don't advocate that violence be met with violence.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: We advocate that violence be met with accountability, that when
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: women and girls in relationships with men or boys engage
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: in violence against their partner, their heterosexual partner, that they
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: should be just as accountable as a partner of a
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: woman or a girl is when they engage in violence
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: against their female partner. And that's that's it, that's all
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: we want. We want to see that men should have
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: some recourse if they are abused. Boys should have some
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: recourse if they are abused, and you know, they should
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: be able to get out of the relationship or you know,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: get the same stipulation that their partner has to go
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: through abuser therapy and learn to not handle conflict by
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: engaging in abuse just like a man, because it's just
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: as bad when she does it. It's just as damaging
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: for the children when she does it, and it can
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: be just as dangerous, especially if she chooses to use
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: a weapon or if she uses lies and gets him
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: jailed for things that he didn't do. So, yeah, they're
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: terrified that that might actually happen and women might not
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: be able to manipulate the public into giving them lots
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: of money to fight the evil men while pretending that
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: women are never violent.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: And I'd like to know where they draw these boundaries
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: as to where the manisphere ends and begins. I'd like
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: them to give me some examples and when they do.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: I wonder how many of those examples I can point
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: to and how they address the immigration problem, because so
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: many of these content creators that I listen to when
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: they talk about immigration, will frame it principally, if not entirely,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: as to how much of a threat it is against
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: quote unquote our women and girls. Mm hmmm, because it's
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: just our women and girls to whom these immigrants pose
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: a threat, because they're the only people being raped, they're
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: the only people being endangered. I don't want to name
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: any names, but yeah, you all can probably figure out
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: who I'm talking You can probably figure out many examples
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: of them I'm talking to talking about, because there are
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: so many of them. Like when it comes down to
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: an otherwise neutral topic, they will be like, well, the
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: problem with these immigrants is they're all men. They're all
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: fighting age men, and they're all graping and essaying our
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: our women and girls, completely leaving out that they're also
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: graping in essaying our boys and assaulting and murdering our men.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: But that doesn't seem to matter to the vast majority
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: of what these kinds are calling the manosphere. The vast
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: majority of what they call the manisphere is still very
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: much laser focused on how to demonize the men of
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: other nations so as to keep in their minds the
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: fact that the only victims are the women and girls
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: of our own nation. And yeah, this is this is
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: just what happens when other nations are only interested in
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: exiling the men of their nation because they're perfectly happy
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: to subsidize the women and girls of their own nation.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: They please, don't leave girls and women of our nation.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: We need you so as so as to to keep
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: our nation going. But you, you other men, you three
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: quarters of men who don't get wives because of our
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: poligamous set up. You could all fuck off you, yeah,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: you can all. You can all get shipped off to
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: those countries where they where the government will uh will
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: give you a free life for nothing. And then when
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: they arrive here our so called manisphere, like, look at
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: all these men. We fucking hate these men. Look at
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: what a threat they pose to to our women and girls.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: But they're also murdering the men. Doesn't matter, doesn't fucking matter.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: Think of the women and the girls, and like and
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: and here's and here's you and women going. The manisphere
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: is prioritizing men over boys over girls grow. If only
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: you knew how bad things really were, Like it's the same.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: It's the same, not just across the West, but in
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: the Middle East and across the East, Like it's the
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: same problem everywhere. We're trying, we're trying to get rid
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: of the men we don't want, and and and and
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: pamper and prioritize all women and girls, even the women
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: and girls from other nations, like, come, ye, come all,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: as long as you're female, like, we will protect you
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: from the evil men across the oceans and across the land.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: Fucking sick of it.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Like the worst thing about that is that that they're
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: definitely going to come and end up on welfare, of course,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: because they can, right Whereas the single males that show up,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: they may be able to get temporary sistance for a while,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: but because they are single males, they don't have children.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: In a lot of countries and a lot of western nations,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: your welfare system, whatever it's called, your public assistance, your
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: social safety net, usually requires recipients to be parents with children,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: And so those men will have a short amount of
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: time where their situation is better, and then suddenly they're
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: dropped like a rock. From that system, and at the
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: same time they're treated like a liability by employers and
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: by anybody that might be a colleague if they are
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: seeking work. And what happens then they end up in
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: trouble with the law. And when you have that combination,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: and then you also have things like people who are
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: part of terrorist organizations, whether it's ISIS or drug cartels
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: or or mafia's gangs, whatever you want to uh to
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: point out in countries with you know, more more poverty
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: situations and less less uh the rule of law in
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: their nation. Uh, then then you get this mix of
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: criminal underworld and people with no jobs that can't support
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: themselves and can't get help from the government because they
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: have no children and and their mail and so there's
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: nothing specifically for them. What what are they going to do?
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: What pathway is available for them to take? Any good ones?
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: Or are you know, are we setting ourselves up for
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: a huge homeless population that's going to die off or
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: a huge criminal population? It's desperate, it's all, you know,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: a very bad idea. And in the end, the men
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: involved are generally speaking, victims of something. Human beings do
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: not grow up to be insanely violent if they are
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: not raised in an environment where they learn to be violent,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: they grow up to be maybe more contentious if they
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: have that natural personality, but they learn more socially acceptable
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  Speaker 1: ways or more effective ways of interacting with other people
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: and getting what they want, even if even if they're assholes,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: then to use violence that will get them jailed or
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: killed someday if they grow up in any kind of
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: healthy home environment. It's generally speaking, only people who grow
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: up in an environment where a family member is abusive,
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  Speaker 1: or they're in a gang ridden neighborhood where violence is
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: all around them, or they're in a war torn area
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: where violence is all around them, or some combination thereof
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: that end up like the MS thirteen members that you
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: see in the news getting deported and the newscaster is
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: telling you their long laundry list of violent crimes that
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: they committed while they were here before the government finally
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: kicked them out of the country. Like those guys didn't.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: They weren't born that way, right, And not that that
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: makes us responsible for them, but it is always a
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: situation in which a complete lack of compassion and consideration
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: for the boy created the man that everybody sees as
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: a monster. And unfortunately, until we start holding our government
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: accountable for the conditions that it's creating in other countries
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: that lead to this, and rather than demanding that they
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: let people in and just let them run free, when
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: when this is what they're importing, and this is what
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: they're setting them up for, it's going to continue.
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  Speaker 2: So and this is probably why empires fall, by the way,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: this is probably why we've been in this constant cycle
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: of empires rising and then empire is falling because as
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: empires rise, they get more and more decadent, they get
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: more and more self assured, and and they find themselves
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: consumed with issues that don't matter, like like how we
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: can make life better for women.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And eventually you get to a situation where there's
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: no choice but to recognize that if you don't make
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: life better for men, there won't be life anymore.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And the bigger the empire, the larger the fall.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: And this appears to be what we're living through right
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: now because I'm effectively we have the biggest empire ever
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: because because we have binding forces between nations such as
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: the UN I know that doesn't do much all in all,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: but the empires don't just don't just extend to country boundaries.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: We have we have all kinds of country binding forces,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: like the U N and like the w a F,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: and like like NATO and all this such and and
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: and yeah, we have we have empires that span continents
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: at this point, and they've become so decadent, so uh
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: self assured, and so lazy, largely due to this technocratic
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: easing of all of our hardships. We don't have any
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: of very few of the hardships that we've had over
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: the years, and and and so we can focus our
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: attention on needless, pointless things like that our can micro
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: manage how much easier we can make it for the
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: people that we fundamentally care about, namely women and children,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: especially women, because they can actually advocate for their own
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: self interest in ways that children cannot. Like, we are
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: sort of designed to to encourage the strong to protect
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: the weak, and in the case of men, that means, well,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: we're we're clearly the strongest people in the world, so
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: we have to focus all their efforts on protecting those
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: weaker than us, Whereas with women, they're like, Okay, I
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: guess we are stronger than children, but we're weaker than men,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: and so they hold this middle ground where they can.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: They can they can claim all the rights for themselves
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: because they're weaker than men. But they can just forego
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: they could they can just ignore all of this responsibility
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: that they have over children because they can focus on
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: how much how much they're weaker than men. And and yeah,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: this is how this happens because because women are the
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: middle ground between men and children and and and so
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: they can they can get all the advantages of being
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: weak and all the advantages of being strong over whoever
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: it may be. And so that's what I'm saying that
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: this is probably much historical evidence for this, but this
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: is probably why so many empires collapse, because they focus
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: on the human beings who can advocate for their strength
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: and weakness at the same time, namely women. And this
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: cycle of empires rising and falling is going to keep
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: happening happening until we can acknowledge that women are in
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: fact strong even in relation to men, that women have
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: strengths with which they can dominate men. Now, I know
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: that's something that a manisphere like me would say, but
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: once you understand evolutionary psychology, it becomes fairly obvious. Yes,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: women have strengths that can dominate men. And know they're
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: not physical strength, they are psychological strengths because we are
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: a very cerebral species. That is, it was driven by
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: our brains more than our muscles. I mean, that's that's
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: that's one of the most unusual things about Homo sapiens,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: that we have some huge brains. Evolution has dealt us
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: huge brains that can uh, that can override whatever strength
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: we might have. I don't mean just I don't mean
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: brains just in a a mental sense, in an in
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: an intellectual sense, I mean in an emotional sense. Yes,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: men have emotions. Sorry, feminists, It's true. Men are very
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: much driven by their emotions, and one of their strongest
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: emotions is how much we love women and how much
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: we will override everything else in our brain in order
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: to to give women everything they want. It's unfortunate, it's
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: what e it's the hand evolution has dealt us, and
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: it's it's up to us to overcome these these irrational
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: gynocentric tendencies. I'm not saying gynocentrism is necessarily ingrained in us,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: but it's a shortfall that it's very easy for us
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: to fall into if we can't work our way out
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: of it intellectually. And that's that's what we're trying to
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: do here around the Budger Radio. We're trying to do
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: in many aspects of this here manisphere, we're trying to say, like, yes,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: I I know we're sort of evolutionary built to deal
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: with this in some ways, but we're also blessed with
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: the with this sense of logic and rationality. And I
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: know that's often painted as the enemy, and yes, in
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: many ways it is, but it can be used to
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: our advantage if we can just realize that this instinct
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: we have to protect the week at the expense of
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: the strong is not necessarily the be all and the
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: end all. Sometimes the strong deserve to be thought of.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: The strong deserved deserved to be uh protected and preserved
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: just as much as the week, arguably more. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if it's talking.
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  Speaker 4: Strong in evolutionary terms, yeah, I have that the strong
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: ought to be prioritized over the week, if only in
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 4: pragmatic terms, it can It can go either way.
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  Speaker 2: We shouldn't necessarily destroy the week just because they're weak,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: but we certainly shouldn't destroy the strong just because they're strong.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: That's even more retarded.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: In fact, historically, historically women were encouraged to have at
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: least some sort of trigger discipline when it comes to
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: hiring off the prioritize me because I'm weaker, gun and
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: h Historically, women were also expected to uh, you know,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: use what strength they did have to support their protectors
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: and their providers. It was a reciprocal relationship and women
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: women relied on men's strengths, and men relied on women's strengths.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: And today women have declared that that having to reciprocate
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: for the reliance that they have on men is uh
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: is oppression, and therefore they shouldn't have to do it
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: no reciprocation. And that's that's essentially the situation we're in now.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: So the themisphere is complaining that that men have rejected the deal. No,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: we don't want to protect, provide and and uh love
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: and nurture with no reciprocation, only to be punished for
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: it in the end. We don't we don't like that deal, right,
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: The femisphere says, how dare you, how very dare you?
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: How dare you reject this excellent deal that gives us
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: everything we want? What's wrong with you? Don't you love women?
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: You know, don't you respect women? That's that's essentially what
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: this article is, uh and and that's that's where we
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: are now, the idea that we promote unhealthy definitions of masculinity.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: Feminism has promoted the idea that the things that that
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: have gotten men through hard times, the ability to reserve
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: being emotional for when it is safe to be emotional,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: and to be outwardly stoic when it is necessary to
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: do so in order to get shit done and create
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: a safer situation for being emotional, is apparently misogyny. And
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: they really think that if men don't cry the way
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: that women cry, and as often as women cry, and
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: for the same reasons that women cry, in other words,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: when bad things happen to women, then there's something wrong
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: with men. And they advocate this idea that men should
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: be allowed to express their emotions and they should be
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: allowed to cry and talk about their problems and give
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: their grievances and complaints. In other words, right, what does
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: the rest of this article say about men who air
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: their grievances and complaints or you know, women who listen
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: when men air their grievances and complaints. Well, that's that's
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: normalizing violence against women and girls. That's spreading misogyny. That's uh,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: that's that's the minisphere. And how very dare we allow
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: men to air grievous grievances and complaints that are not
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: feminists approved? What do you do feminists when you say
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: that men should be allowed to talk about their problems,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: but the problems they talk about are you so here?
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: They say, they're talking about the article that we read
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: the first time, and uh, you know that that we
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: are a real world threat. The minisphere is a real
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: world threat threat guys. And then it goes on to
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: describe who we are. So who are we? It says
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: mental health impacts on boys and men. The man is sphears.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: Unrealistic definitions of manhood can promote anxiety, self harm, and
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: risky behaviors, and young men who feel pressured to be
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: more manly. So there you go. Feminists don't want men
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: to be able to express themselves. They don't want men
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: to be able to form their own identities. They want
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: men to be feminized. Whereas the men's rights movement has
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: supported men who are gay, men who are straight men
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: who are rugged, men who are nerdy, men who are
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: in great shape, men who are fat, men who are
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: able bodied, and working men who are disabled. It's not
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: just one type of man. But feminists only support men
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: if they are feminized. If they are not feminized, they're
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: not real men to feminists because they don't they don't
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: worship women enough. And their example isn't from the men's
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: rights movement, it's from the in cell community looks maxing.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: Looks maxing communities subject men's photos to brutal commentary, which
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: maybe they do, but the fact is they have a reason,
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: and that is women will reject men based on looks,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: and they will reject men harshly and cruelly. They will.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: They will not only say I'm not interested, but get
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: away from me, you creep. And that's the that's not
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: Missonry's that's that's you know, completely harmless. They're allowed to
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: do that, right. Women who hear complaints about that kind
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: of behavior say that you're making excuses for the creep.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: But if the so called creep goes to a community
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: that is trying to show him how to be more
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: attractive and they suggest your eyebrows, you know need to
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: be divided into two eyebrows and not one going across
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: the middle. Or you know, you have to shower every day,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: not just when you feel like it. Or you you
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: look like shit with long hair, cut your hair, or
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: do you look like shit with short hair? Grow it out,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: you know, or anything like that. From from things that
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: you can change easily to you need plastic surgery, and
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: suddenly it's it's bad. The same thing that girls do
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: and women do when approached by these men is bad
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: when the men say it to each other, but it's
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: not bad when women say it. You see how that goes.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: That's a lot has been loaded into this adverb manly. Yeah, like,
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: they haven't explained what they mean by manly. You think
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: what they mean is looking like a man. And pardon
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: me for being perhaps controversial, but what women generally find
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: attractive is manly. And again they haven't they have explained
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: what this means, and presumably they don't have to because
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: they've been so buried in this idea that there shouldn't
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: be a difference between a man and a woman other
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: than men and women should both advocate for women and
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: only women, and if that means men men becoming women
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: or becoming as esthetically womanly as possible, then that's absolutely fine. Again,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: it's this is un women. They have no problem with
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: women being womanly, and they have no problem with men
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: being womanly. Yeah, that's that's what I think. They mean,
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: everyone should be womanly. That's why they have a un
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: women and no un men. It's it's no problem that
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: women are being encouraged to be womanly because their idea
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: of womanly is just being a woman, just having a
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: just having a vagina, just presenting as a woman, even
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: if that means being a useless, fat bloater with blue hair,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: they're still womanly, so that still counts. But this idea
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: that men should be strong, oh heavens no, that's that's top.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: Men should not be strong. It's not as though women
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: are attracted to strong men. You know, why would women
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: ever be attracted to a strong man? And and I mean,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: whenever anyone pictures in their head what manly might mean,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: it's invariably strong, right, it's men are.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: Expected to quit quite frequently.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, men are expected to be strong, whether it be
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: physically strong or esthetically presenting strength, or you know, psychologically
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: or mentally strong. And yeah, pardon me. But I think
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: if anything, women should be expected to be more man.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: I mean it's they as in, they should expect it
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: to be strong too. Everyone should be expected to be strong, Charlie,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: I mean strong is better than weak. Yeah, no matter how,
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: no matter how femininely you're defining, you're defining strength, it's
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: still strength. I mean, you're obsessed with this strong woman stereotype,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: and and any attribute you can attribute to a strong woman,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: it is something that can also be attributed to a
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: strong man. Right. It's it's being it's having the courage
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: of your convictions, stuff like that. It means being confident
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: and secure in in whatever you happen to be, whatever
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: form God happens to have given you or whatever like.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: That's what they mean by manly like. But they're just
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: they don't it's toxic. When when when this uh, when
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: when this type is applied to men? Yeah, they want
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: men to be weak. They want men to be weak
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: and affectible and malleable. Right, they don't want they don't want,
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: they don't want men to be strong. They they want
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: women to be strong, and they want men to melt
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: in the presence of women, because that's their idea. Of
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: what men should be.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: They want men to be controllable by women. That is
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: what they want. They want men to do, for women
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: to be dedicated to women, to prioritize women over themselves.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: And that's the only stoicism they're allowed to have, is
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: to prioritize women over themselves. They can't be stoic to
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: achieve something that is their goal for themselves, but only
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: to achieve something that is to meet the needs of
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: a woman. And they want men to be slaves essentially,
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: you know, workhorses, financiers, sugar daddies, right, but not equal partners.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: And in terms of manly like, if you ask a
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: feminist what constitutes manly in the end, she will describe
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: a protector and supporter of women.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: Ask a woman to describe a good man, and watch
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: her describe a slave. I don't know who quoted that first,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: but it's it's yeah, it's perfect, that's exactly what it is.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: And I look at I look at it a totally
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: different way. Like I think about my dad and my grandpa,
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: and both of them had, you know, aspects of ruggedness.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: My dad was a big man and he was very strong,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: and you know, my grandpa was an average sized man,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: but he was a boxer and a hunter and that
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. He was a welder. But one of
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: the most manly things each of them did, they did
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: for themselves, and you know, they shared them with the
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: people around them. But it was an area of interest
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: each of them that was creative interest that wouldn't necessarily
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: be considered masculine per se, and in Grandpa's case, some
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: people considered it feminine. Grandpa grew roses, my hunting, welding, boxing.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: Grandpa grew roses. And he was an expert, absolute expert,
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: because he'd been a farmer, so he grew things for
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: a living before he grew roses. So when he grew roses,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: he threw himself into that the same way that he
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: threw himself into into growing you know, corn and beans
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: and potatoes and carrots and stuff and animals. And he
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: competed and it was great. And you know, I'm allergic
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: to roses. I didn't get to get up close to them,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: but I can be outdoors in the yard where there
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: are roses in the yard and it's not a problem.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: So it was neat for me because I got to
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: I got to see all kinds of beautiful different breeds
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: of these beautiful flowers. And then when I wanted to
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: grow my own vegetables, Grandpa was right there, you know,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: giving me advice. He knew exactly what to tell me
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: to do, and I had an expert right at my fingertips.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: Dad was the same way with music. He played by ear.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: He didn't learn to read notes, but all he had
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: to do was hear at once. He played all of
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: the pop music from his youth, and he played a
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: lot of the pop music from my youth on on piano.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: And you know, eventually we got synthesizer keyboards and he
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: played on those as well, and it was it was
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: always great being at home and listening to my dad play.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: I'm always a little kid. Sometimes I would just spend
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: hours sitting in the room with my dad playing the
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: piano and listening to him, and I didn't have to
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: be doing anything else. I was just enjoying the music.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: And it's it's not particularly a gendered thing music. People
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: both sexes do it. But you know, again, like with
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: with my grandpa and his roses, my dad had that
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: down to a science to the degree that when he
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: got synthesizer keyboards. He threw himself into all of the
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: programming you can do with a keyboard and all of
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: the different ways in which you can try out. You know,
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: let me try making this country song reggae and see
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: how it sounds, you know, and stuff like that. He
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: explored the keyboard, the synthesizer, keyboard, all the different instruments
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: and everything, and you know, and just was incredibly masculine
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: about his exploration of music. I know, both of them
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: had that. Grandpa was very masculine about his exploration of
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: growing roses. And so this idea that masculine expression can't
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: be rugged and still refined and still include emotional expression
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: and self interest and things things that are therapeutic for
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: the individual. You know, garden away your stress, play away
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: your stress on your musical instrument. Feminists are full of
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: shit when they say that it's abnormal for men to
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: be able to do different things besides be this stereotype
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: of the stoic, rugged, you know, mountain man or whatever,
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: and and nothing else. They paint men as more one
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: dimensional than any other group of people paints them and
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: then project that onto other people. You're treating men like
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: they're one dimensional because you don't want them feminized. No,
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: we don't want men's freedom to express their masculinity in
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: their own personal idiom to quote Monty Python, taken away
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: from them by some gaggle of gossiping geese who have
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: to make up bullshit about what makes them men.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't want men to be more emotional. They
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: want them to be less intellectual. I want them to
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: be less physical. They want them. They want to strip
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: men away from all of these elements and leave them
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: nothing with nothing but the emotional And then when men
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: express their emotions, they go, well, you're just being emotional,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: and your emotions don't count because you're not oppressed like
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: we are. And they want to do the same thing
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: to women because women can also be highly intellectual and
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: highly physically capable of things these things. Maybe maybe less
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: evolutionarily primed for these things, but yeah, they want the
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: same thing for women as they want men. They want
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: to strip them of of every every objective quality that
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: they can possibly have and leave them with the sheer
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: subjectivity of emotions, so that they can either dismiss or
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: prioritize these emotions depending on what subject to which these
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: emotions pertain. And it's usually along political lines. If you're
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: if you're emotionally advocating for the left wing, then then
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: you're a perfectly good person be you female. But if
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: you're emotionally supporting the right wing, fuck you, you're just being
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: emotional and your emotions don't count factors. Do care about
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: your feelings as long as they pertain to the political
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: direction we want you to take. And why it is
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: that women prefer the left wing direction is up for debate.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: I don't quite know why that is. I think it's
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: probably because they've been manipulated in that direction by certain
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: forces in the left wing. And then we get back
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: into the subject of what communism is done to us in.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: But yeah, well, and if women have this issue in
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: general of preferring to feel secure over the freedom to
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: make themselves actually secure, It's like a with a cardboard box.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: Cats will if it fits, they sits right, they'll they'll
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: they'll hide in a cardboard box because it feels safe
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: inside the box. It feels like nothing can come at
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: them from any direction except one. Uh, And anyone who's
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: claustrophobic would think of it exactly the opposite way. I
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: have only one direction that I can escape if something
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: bad happens in here. Right, I've got family that's that's claustrophobic,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: So I've I've kind of heard plenty about what that's like.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: But imagine, you know, you have a cat in a
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: situation where there is something truly dangerous, like say, a coyote,
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: and the only box around is a the box from
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: a twelve pack of sodas of pop. I'm from Ohio,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: it's pop, but for everybody else, SODA's carbonated beverages in
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: twelve ounce cans to two rows of six. And so
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: the cat gets in there, right, The cardboard box is
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: very thin, one bite, and the coyote is through it,
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: and a cat is dead. It wasn't safe, but it
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: would still go in there because it would feel safe.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: It would still hide in a place like that. And
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: the problem is women will do that, even though a
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: woman should be logically able to recognize when they are
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: substituting the illusion of safety and security for the reality.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: For instance, the idea that we support the dumbest choices
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: that women can make screwing around like a three dollars horr.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: And then oh gosh, now you know, I'm an unwed
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: mother and how am I going to support this child? Hey,
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: uncle Sam, can I have some money? Instead of suggesting
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: that we teach girls as they are growing up to
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: be very careful and avoid that circumstance so that they
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: never have to deal with it, they never have to
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: ask for that help and they never have to try
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: to avoid asking for that help by working harder and
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: because instead they planned for their adult life as they
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: were maturing, And we can't suggest that without having feminists
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: get all hateful about it. Oh, that's misogynistic. You're slut shaming.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: There's no shame in this discussion. This isn't about morals,
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: This is about practicality. Smart thing to have your daughter
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: do growing up is learn about the consequences of careless liaisons,
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: the hygienic issue involved in indiscriminate sex, the emotional hygienic issue,
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: because there are brain chemistry issues that happen when you
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: have sex with a bunch of different people, and you know,
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: there's brain issues for women and there's brain issues for men.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: In that it's not good for either sex to just
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: have sex with a bunch of people and then disconnect
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: each time and go to the next person. It's very unhealthy.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: It's mentally unhealthy and it's physically unhealthy. It doesn't have
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: anything to do with shame. It has to do with
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: your not protecting your body against the invasion of microbes
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: that can hurt you, and you're not protecting your mind
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: against manipulation that nobody may be deliberately doing to you,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: but you're still going to experience it. And you know,
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: we're in a situation today where we can't talk about
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: that stuff without feminist politicizing it. Right, the most practical
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: thing you can raise your daughter to do is remain
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: a virgin until she gets married, get a job when
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: she's in high school, start socking money away into a
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: dowry account, and have enough for a down payment for
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: a house when she decides to get married. And if
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: she decides to uh have any kind of professional career
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: before she before she gets married, you know, to to
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: minimize as much as possible how much money she spends
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: on college. The most practical thing she can do is
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: go into that marriage with a nest egg in tow
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: so that when she decides to have children, you know
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: the burden is not all on her husband in terms
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: of financial support. And if they decide that, you know,
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: she wants to stay home or he wants to stay
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: home with the kids for a period of time after
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: they're born. They'll be in a financial position to do that.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: But unfortunately we talk about stuff like that, it becomes
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: why is that the woman's responsibility? You women should earn
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: just as much as men do, but men have to
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: have more money so they can provide for women's choices. Unrealistic,
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: and women will hold these contradictions in their heads with
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: no concern that they are mutually incompatible, right, mutually exclusive
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: from each other. He can't have more money than you
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: if you're earning the same amount, and your earnings can
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: never be unnecessary. You can't take time off to have
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: your baby and stay home with the child if your
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: earnings are just as important to the finances of the
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: home as your husbands are, unless you come in with
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: a dowry in this egg. And as soon as you
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: know women are confronted with stuff like that, they have
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: the shut off switch. Misogyny. You hate women, You must
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: not have any friends. Nobody likes you. How dare you
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: talk about things that way? Well, you can't get laid,
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: that's the problem, right, But they can't consider the ideas
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: because they don't feel safe. Considering your own accountability, your
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: own responsibility, not having someone else to fall back on
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: and rely on for your own welfare up until a
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: certain point doesn't feel safe unless you think all the
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: way through to the recognition that if you are accountable
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: for yourself and you are responsible for yourself, that's freedom,
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: and you don't have you're not always under somebody else's control,
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: because you're not always dependent on somebody else. And men
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: live with that their whole lives. They start living with
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: that before they're adults, so it doesn't necessarily come naturally,
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: but it feels natural to a degree if you do
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: that your whole life. But if you never have to,
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: and you're never in cur to and you never learned to,
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: and you get to adulthood legally, you know, at least
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: without ever reaching that level of adulthood mentally, you have
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: no context by which to understand it. And it looks terrifying.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I might someday be on my own.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: What am I going to do if I don't have
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: a safety net? And so what do women do? They
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: look at what politicians are offering, What are we going
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: to do for women? What safety nets are we going
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: to promise to women? And they picked up politicians that
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: promise the most attractive, softest looking safety nets, and they
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: vote for those guys. And that's how we end up
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: with socialists and communist leaders in charge of our countries
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: in high taxes and more and more function, social dysfunction,
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: and even you know, law breaking criminality over time in
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: our country because women trust safety nets more than they
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: trust themselves. Until we can change that. And that's a
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: big change to make, because that's a there's a lot
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: of history of women having that attitude. Until we can
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: change that, everything else that we're dealing with will not improve.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: Men can't rescue women from that. Women's attitude actually has
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: to change. That's going to be the hardest thing to do.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: And we are influencing more and more women's attitude to change.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: There are more women speaking up now, There are more
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: women openly rejecting feminism. There are more women talking openly
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: about out the importance of dedication to your husband and
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: reciprocal partnerships and so on, not necessarily on a left
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: right basis, but on an individual basis, and that's probably
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: what has them the most scared. The real reason that
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: you and women and other feminist groups hate the manisphere
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: because their income, their political power, their influence very solidly
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: relies on women's addiction to safety nets and that kind
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: of women. If women overcome that addiction, these people are fucked, and.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: They're kind of telling on themselves by testing along the
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 2: lines of no kings, even in even in countries, whether
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 2: there's no threat of a king ever becoming apparent, but
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 2: what women really need right now king after centuries of
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 2: democracy of of women, ah uh, bending the need to
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 2: governments to big daddy government. This this abstract machine that's
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: there's that's going to give them all these gibbs at
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 2: the expense of men, and that let's let's be perfectly honest.
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: This is what has caused all of this. The replacement
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 2: of the not just south a male, but the male
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 2: in general, the head of a family, the head of
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: any corporation, the head of any private enterprise. The replacement
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 2: of that with this, with this entirely artificial mob boss
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 2: that we call the government that has what not necessarily
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: caused this, I mean it's been caused by romantic chivalry
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 2: again since a thousand years ago, since before even a
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 2: government existed that was the precursor to governments. But yeah,
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 2: the fact that what they're protesting against is kings, even
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 2: in the event that kings haven't existed. For that, they're
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 2: sort of showing their ass that they're showing the behind
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 2: of what they're protesting rather than the front of what
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 2: they're protesting deep down. I mean they I say, they
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 2: say they don't know. But when I say they and
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: I just mean women, I mean this, this mass of
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 2: people kneeling before government. They what people protest against is
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 2: very often an indication of of what they know they
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 2: really need. And I know that that could that could
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 2: bite me on the ass having said that, But yes,
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 2: what you need as a king, because you really want kings.
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 2: Just like just like this meme about how how we
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 2: call how how we compliment people by calling them queens,
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 2: and how we compliment people by calling them kings. It's
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 2: it's because that's what's best for humanity and and not
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 2: that we should give absolute power to kings. And no,
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: we shouldn't in the same way we shouldn't give absolute
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 2: power to government. But given that we've given how much
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 2: power we've given to governments over the centuries, they've ended
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 2: up with absolute power, far more absolute power than has
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 2: ever been given to king.
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 1: I think that's actually the biggest part of the problem
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 1: women more than anything. They don't want it, but they
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: need total societal collapse in order in order to make
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: them grow at this point, and it's hopefully something that
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 1: doesn't actually happen, and hopefully another way for women to
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: grow and evolve is found, because total societal collapse would
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 1: hurt a lot, not just for one group of people,
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: everybody would suffer. The truth is that you know women,
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: what women are clamoring for versus what women need, like
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: the gap between those two conditions is so wide you
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: can't see what from if you're standing on the other
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 1: And yeah, women might be calling for a king, women
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: might be begging for big daddy government to be personified
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: by a big daddy, but it's not the best thing
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 1: that could happen. Having an amount of power political power
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 1: that such as government consolidated to one individual like that
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: is even worse than having a representative republic with with voters.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 1: It's it would be better to have almost no government
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: at all or no government at all than to have
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 1: either one. And unfortunately I think women. Most women would
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 1: freak the fuck out if if we started going in
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 1: that direction, because there would be no safety nets.
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about total societal collapse.
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 1: There was no I am.
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 2: There was this old Joe Rogan joke about if you
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 2: had a sandwich made of ninety percent shit and ten
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 2: percent ham, would you be prepared to call that a
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 2: ham sandwich? And I'm like, the society we have now
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 2: is ninety nine ham with one percent of shit on
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 2: top of that. And I'm just talking about removing the
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 2: one percent of shit that is that is feasible, especially
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 2: if the shit is merely sprinkled on top of the
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 2: slice of bread that is on top of that. I'm
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 2: talking about shave off the ship. In fact, remove the
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 2: top slice of bread onto which the shit has been sprinkled,
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 2: and put a fresh slice of bread on top of that.
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 2: And that's not that's not necessarily regress. I mean, I
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 2: suppose it is. But you've still got the ham sandwich
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 2: underneath it. You've still got the fresh slice of bread
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 2: on the bottom and all that delicious ham in the middle.
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 2: Just remove the top slice of bread that's been infected
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 2: with all the human shit. I put a different slice
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 2: of bread on top of it. One would no shit
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 2: on top of it. I mean, I don't know if
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 2: you can call that regress or progress. I don't know
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 2: if you call it woke left or woke right.
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: But I'm just wondering if the cook that was handling
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: this shitty ham sandwich washed his or her hands, because
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: otherwise it won't matter the whole sandwich is contaminated.
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 2: In your You can figure that out too. We can
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 2: make that contingency too.
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 1: There we go. But I I just can't with the
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: idea of there being a monarchy. I think that's just
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: it takes away a certain amount of accountability because the individual,
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: especially in the modern terms where fighting off the government
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 1: like the way that the revolutions of the past happened,
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 1: those avenues.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 2: Are not.
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 1: As available today as they were. And the most available
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 1: avenue today is to have a system like Trump's trying
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: to create in the US, where we have elections that
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: are free from being manipulated, at least in terms of
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 1: putting votes in that aren't real and or aren't legal.
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 1: I think that's better than if you end up with
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 1: somebody that maybe the public it isn't seeing any of
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 1: their interests served by your government, that you can't replace
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 1: that individual because their heir has god given right to
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 1: rule the country next. It just does, it doesn't. I'm
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: not the reason that the early Americans fled that type
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: of system was because it always results ultimately in problems
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: and often in despotism.
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 2: Well, it certainly hasn't worked out for the UK because
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 2: we've had a king for this whole time and the
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 2: UK is a fucking hellscape this point and the existence
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 2: of a monarch hasn't helped us. The fact that we
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 2: are technically a constitutional monarchy because we don't really have
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 2: a constitution, certainly, not like like you'll have in the US.
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 2: We have the Magna Carta and that's as close as
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 2: we can really point to in terms of a constitution.
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 2: And but that's not really a constitution, that's just an
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 2: element of what I guess we're calling our constitution. But
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 2: the fact that the prime Minister in Britain has to
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 2: kneel before the king is important because it is it
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 2: is it is supposed to hold them back, It is
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 2: supposed to give them humility before something greater than the government.
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately it is it is not stopped them from.
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 2: No No, largely because we've we've been a vassal state
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 2: of the U. S. Service. Yeah, and we've had to
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 2: do whatever the US tells them since the war. And
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 2: the fact that the US has been has been doing
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 2: nothing but whatever the government tells it since then. I mean,
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 2: I just, I'm.
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 1: Just you have just actually been, to a degree the
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 1: vassal state of another country.
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 2: Oh well, we can't talk about that.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, I have noticed that, John.
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 2: That's only been since nineteen forty eight. Right, if you're
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 2: talking about the state, I think, imagine, imagine, imagine if
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 2: imagine if George Washington was made the king. I know,
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 2: I know this would change so much of history, because
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 2: that doesn't mean you wouldn't be without a government. You'd
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 2: be much like the UK constitutional monarchy. With John was
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 2: the strength is the country.
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 1: The strength of the country came from the history we
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 1: did have. The country's power came from the history that
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 1: we did have. And well, yeah, we do because the
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 1: country came from the countries that our ancestors fled. My
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 1: ancestors fled from several countries, most of them are in
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 1: the European Union now. So in my opinion, I think
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 1: the parliamentary system that doesn't involve a king has been
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: shown to be at least somewhat superior, at least in
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 1: terms of strengthening a country. Now, once we got to
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 1: the point where, like, honestly, at the downfall of this
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: country wasn't voting, and it wasn't the parliamentary system. It
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 1: was when women began voting. Because women, instead of voting
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: in the interests of their homes and their communities, voted
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 1: for safety nets.
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 2: Well, you know how you could develop a counterpoint to that, eventuality,
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 2: having some kind of king who can go no, fuck.
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't work that way. Because you had
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: a king. No, women still got the right to vote
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 1: in your country. In fact, they had the right to vote,
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 1: and then they lost it for only a little while,
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 1: and they threw a massive, wild temper tantrum, thus increasing
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 1: the amount of time it took for their parliament to
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 1: give it back. But eventually they did, and again you
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 1: still have Like when it was only men voting, you
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 1: had a much more practical response to what government was
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 1: doing and what it was supposed to be doing. We
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 1: didn't have an escalating, a constantly escalating, uh massive growing
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 1: system of overspending and building debt until women started voting
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 1: for social safety nets and and UH for more and
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: more regulation. Hell, we didn't, we didn't need any type
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 1: of federalized police force until women pushed for the government
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 1: to control what people drank. And then we got organized crime,
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 1: and then we ended up with a federalized police force
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 1: because of that. It was a direct result the the
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: FBI and and UH, the the whole system of federalizing
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 1: law enforcement came into existence to control a type of
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 1: crime that only happened in the United States because women
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: tried to micromanage people's choices lifestyle choices, right, and a
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: king didn't prevent that. In the UK, a king didn't
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 1: prevent that. In France, king didn't prevent that. In Spain,
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 1: you still ended up with that same situation of women
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 1: trying to micromanage people's choices and confiscate people's resources for
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 1: feminine interests. So there will never be a situation where
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 1: as long as women are allowed the same style of
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 1: say in politics that men have and the same influence
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: social influence that women have at the same time, there
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 1: will never be a type of government that can rein
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 1: them in.
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 2: The best we can get as a free market and
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 2: in very politics can work in the same way as
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 2: a free market as long as there is competition between entities.
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 2: Those various entities will have to compromise amongst each other
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 2: based on what the majority of people want. And this
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 2: is why it's important to have this back and forth
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 2: between the government and the monarchy. And this is something
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 2: we don't have in the UK. We haven't had it
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 2: for a while. The government one that the government has
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 2: cornered that market, like the monarchy has no power anymore.
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 1: They do.
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 2: They do technically have. The king can or indeed the
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 2: Queen previously the king can turn up in Parliament and
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 2: say no, I hear by veto this bill. But he's
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 2: never going to do that because if he did, the
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 2: monarchy would be abolished overnight. And that's the problem. The
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 2: point is you need a back and forth so that
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 2: you have the competition that represents the free market.
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the powers we have. We have the the
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 1: legislative branch that is it's one power. We have the
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 1: executive branch that's a second power, and then we have
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 1: the judicial branch that is a third power, and each
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 1: has some degree of override capability for the other two. Uh,
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 1: and and what's interesting, like Congress can still override the
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 1: president too. You have to have more votes. It takes
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 1: a bigger effort, but they can do it. And you know,
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 1: if if the courts determine a law to be unconstitutional,
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 1: the legislators can look at what were the reasons they
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 1: gave and try to find workarounds to have the law
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 1: do what they want and still have it be constitutional.
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 1: And of course you have the Constitution itself laying out
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 1: the rights that are protected for citizens and placing limitations
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 1: on what the government can do and determining what the
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 1: government's roles are. And with that document all three of
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 1: the branches being beholden to it, that is supposed to
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 1: act as sort of the fourth check, the fourth balance,
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 1: and it's worked for all these years. The only issue
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 1: that we've had, and I'm still going to lay it
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 1: at the feet of women, that that women don't think
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 1: all the way through when they look at those social
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 1: safety nets to the other side of it, where they
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 1: are voting for dependence and and they are voting for
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 1: being being controlled agreed, And it's the there's no form
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 1: of government that you can come up with that undoes
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 1: that it the attitude itself, the failure to think ahead
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 1: and think through has to change. And now there is
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 1: one way that men can fix this, But it's a
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 1: it's a generational fix. It's not something that's going to
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 1: happen overnight. Every father that has the the access and
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 1: ability to raise his daughter should raise his daughter to
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 1: think better, think all the way through, and not just
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: want safety nets, you know. And there's little things that
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 1: a got. Like when I was a kid, I had
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 1: two different attitudes from my parents about my tendency to
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 1: pick up bugs like my brother did. My dad thought
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 1: it was cute and so he helped me find interesting
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 1: bugs that weren't going to bite me and encouraged me
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 1: to be tough about the bugs that did bite. My
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 1: mom warned me that the bugs would bite, and it
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 1: was one of the most feminine things he ever did.
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, they bite. One day, I was playing
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 1: with a spider and it was trapped in a corner.
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 1: I was a little kid, so I didn't realize how
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 1: mean this was at the time, but it was trapped
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 1: in the corner and it would start running out of
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 1: the corner and I would flick it with my finger
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 1: and it would roll into a ball and roll back
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 1: into the corner, and that would try to get out
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 1: another way, and you know which as a as an adult,
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 1: you know, my first response would be to go back
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 1: and tell that kid, don't do that. That's mean you
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 1: might hurt the bug, you know. But my mom, oh, handy,
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 1: they bite. You know, she was near panicked because he
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 1: was allergic to spider rights, so she didn't and she
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 1: didn't know if I would be or not. I'm not,
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 1: It's one of the few things I'm not allergic to.
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 1: But you know, scared the crap out of me. She
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 1: had to peel me off the ceiling with a spatula
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 1: where my dad, you know, taught me how funny it
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 1: is to let a daddy long leg a Huntsman spider,
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 1: not the Australian kind, you know, crawl up your arm.
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 1: They can't bite, they can't do anything. They're just these weird,
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 1: little leggy you know, creatures, and you know, to to
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 1: pick up and carry around crickets and you know, go
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 1: fishing with them and bait my own hook and that
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. It's better to encourage your daughters to
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 1: have that that the guts to to, you know, explore
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 1: their environment and to maybe care about their impact on it, like,
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 1: you know, don't hurt the spider, that's mean. Don't be
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 1: mean to things just for the sake of having some
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 1: kind of fun. But it's perfectly acceptable to get a
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 1: good close look at it and there's there's nothing wrong
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 1: with that, and you shouldn't be too scared. Look how
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 1: little it is, you know. And again not in Australia, clearly,
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 1: but instead a lot of times we coddle little girls.
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 1: Little girls get taught that it's okay to be delicate
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 1: and fragile and scared of everything. And you know, when
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 1: when they hit the first grade six seven year old
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 1: age and they start tattling on everybody for everything, it's
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 1: encouraged instead of discouraged, you know, and you know, handle it.
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 1: And you know, anytime that it's not something that an
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 1: adult should handle, this person is is breaking this minor
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 1: rule in the classroom. Well, nobody likes a tattletale, right,
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 1: that should be the answer most of the time. But
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 1: instead we teach little girls from the time they're toddlers
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 1: that they should be seeking safety nets instead of independence
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 1: and accountability. Little boys grow up learning to seek accountability
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 1: and independence. But we can't do that. If we want
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 1: a functional society, both sexes need to grow up learning
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 1: to seek accountability and independence and to try to help
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 1: other people to be a bit of a safety net,
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 1: and to be grateful when they have a real functional
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 1: safety net, but not to rely on the idea that
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 1: there will always be one. It's destroying our society. And
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 1: that's one thing that fathers can do. Fathers are good
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 1: at teaching independence. Fathers are good at teaching risk taking
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 1: and functional risk taking. Not Hey, I want to see
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 1: if I can use a blanket as a parachute when
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 1: I jump off the roof. Risk taking. But okay, so
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 1: I might get an itchy welt if this bug bites me.
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 1: Risk taking. Don't pick up mosquitoes, they carry diseases. But yeah,
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 1: and it'll take thirty years. And that's the unfortunate part
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 1: of it. It'll take thirty years to get in enough
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 1: of a generation of girls raised that way that they'll
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 1: counter the uh, the namby pamby vote. It looks like
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 1: that's already started to a degree. But that's what we
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 1: need more of. And so probably the most important issue
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 1: that the men's rights movement can fight for. Out of
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 1: everything that we fight for is father's rights.
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 2: And we've been pushing for this from the bottom up
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 2: for as long as we can remember, and nature itself,
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 2: evolution itself, has been pushing for this from the bottom
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 2: up ever since we became Homo sapiens, and even before that,
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 2: since we were austrol epithecus or whatever. But we find
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 2: ourselves in an unfortunate modernist situation where we've been canceled
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 2: out from the top down with this feminist bullshit that
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 2: has taken over the media and the government and all that.
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 2: And yeah, for for our lifetimes, we've been trying to
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 2: combat this with this bottom up system, with this grassroots
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 2: movement of trying to say, look, fathers are important, just
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 2: as important as mothers. But I don't know how to
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 2: approach this when when when we're when we are grassroots
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 2: against sky down, Like, I don't I don't know what.
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know how I can poetically paint this as
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 2: something that's the opposite of grassroots than sky down. And
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to call sky down other than
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 2: this fucking this, this government and media monopoly over things.
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 2: And I don't know how to fight that other than
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 2: with a a leadership, a rulership. And that's why I'm
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 2: that's why I'm talking about something needs to happen to
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 2: overhaul this this sky down system. And and that's and
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 2: that's why I keep talking about monarchy or something similar
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 2: to it, that that's what monarchy is.
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 1: It's just another sky down system going on. What's been
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 1: going on during the last forty or fifty years is
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 1: that the father's rights movement has been making slow but
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 1: steady progress from changing custody standards in the United States,
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 1: in particular, changing custody standards from presumptive maternal custody to
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 1: joint custody, to shared parenting and now to equally shared
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 1: parenting as the default in divorce cases. And where equally
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 1: shared parenting becomes the default, divorce goes down and children
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 1: end up being raised in stable, two parent homes. So
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 1: that's one thing. And the lobbying and and you know,
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 1: letter writing end of the men's rights movement that contacts
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 1: legislators have been putting on a pressure campaign for that
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 1: route for for years. And there are now several states
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 1: in the US that have default equally shared parenting as
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 1: how they you know, approach if if the parents decide
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 1: to do something else or uh, there's a real serious problem,
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 1: right one of the parents is to go to rehab
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 1: or is an abuser, or you know, it's going to
• 2:28:05
  Speaker 1: move across the country and and be thousands of miles
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 1: away from their kid, you know, like you can't transfer
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 1: every week all the way across country like that. But
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 1: in most cases, they they when the kids, you know,
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 1: or when the parents get divorced, the kids live part
• 2:28:27
  Speaker 1: time with one parent, part time with the other parent,
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 1: and it's half and half. So the father does get
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 1: time to be more than just a walking wallet. He
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 1: does get time to go out in the backyard and
• 2:28:42
  Speaker 1: play catch and teach the kid to you know, have
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 1: the sportsmanship, to tough out disappointment when he misses the
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 1: ball or when she throws and it doesn't quite reach dad,
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 1: or you know, when she's out, you know, if they're
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 1: playing a game and stuff like that, which teaches a
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 1: lot about character that mothers ignore. And you know, so
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 1: you do have change taking place. It's just very very
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 1: important that we keep it up. It's exhausting, but it
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 1: is very very important. People continue to write their legislators,
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 1: they continue to support organizations like the National Coalition for
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 1: Men that actually go through and they don't just lobby,
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 1: They also use the court system to get things changed,
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 1: and you know, supporting organizations like US and a Voice
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 1: for Men so that we can get the word out
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 1: to more people. We've gotten this discussion into the mainstream
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 1: and it's only taken you know, only the last ten
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 1: years to really push it forward. This discussion has been
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 1: going on in the men's rights movement before. Many of
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 1: us were involved in it for decades without the mainstream
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 1: realizing or understanding it. And now you have influencers that
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 1: ten or fifteen years ago, they'd have been talking about
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 1: everything except men, and everything except men's situations and issues,
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 1: and they are talking about it now, and they're looking
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 1: at the various details and they're not just considering it
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 1: from a guyinocentric perspective. And even those that had been
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 1: considering it from just a ginocenter perspective are starting to
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 1: consider more egalitarian perspectives. So things are changing and positive.
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 1: It's just, you know, it seems slow, but we've had
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  Speaker 1: in comparison to how things were during say the previous
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  Speaker 1: hundred years, we have had a giant leap forward in
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 1: the last ten. But with that, I think we really
• 2:31:16
  Speaker 1: need to call it a night for the for HBr
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  Speaker 1: talk because it has been a couple of hours and
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  Speaker 1: poor Brian's got to be doing this in the background
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  Speaker 1: the whole time. So I am going to say, and
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  Speaker 1: we don't have any other super chows and I haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen any super chats go through. I haven't. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen any brightly colored mentions here go through, so I
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  Speaker 1: don't think we have them. Hopefully I haven't missed anything,
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  Speaker 1: and if I did, I apologize, But thanks Mike for
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 1: going through more you and women bullshit with me. We
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  Speaker 1: will finish this article next week and then we might
• 2:32:04
  Speaker 1: look at the If there's anything in the Brazil it's
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 1: not just Brazil, it's all of South America and the
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 1: South America document that's not any Africa document, we'll look
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  Speaker 1: at that. But otherwise, I'm pretty sure most of what
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  Speaker 1: I saw in most documents, they mirrored each other. They
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  Speaker 1: just had a slightly different wording based on the cultures.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what will be. That's what we'll be doing
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  Speaker 1: next week. Thanks everybody for listening, and we will see
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  Speaker 1: you next Thursday. Good night all,