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- 0:00Hello everybody, and walking on Honey Badge Radio. My name is Brian.
- 0:03I'm here with Allison and this is maintaining frame number sixty six. Chuan Head
- 0:10realizes the left's man problem. We're gonna be a problem or has a man
- 0:16problem. Yeah, I guess, I guess you could. I guess you
- 0:20could drop some verbs. We're not we don't need verbs where we're going.
- 0:24Yeah. Actually that that that makes no sense and it doesn't really mean anything.
- 0:29I'm just being a goof, So don't don't read into that. People.
- 0:32No worries. Oh my god, someone's already typing up a dissertation,
- 0:36aren't they. Why why would they do that? Okay, because it's our
- 0:40audience. Yeah, I suppose, well say what you guys think. But
- 0:46anyway, so we're gonna be responding to a video that Chuan Head put out.
- 0:52I haven't displayed it on the obs yet for you guys, but I
- 0:55just want to get the title the male Loneliness Epidemic, and Shoe is going
- 1:02to be talking about what's going on with men as a lot of people in
- 1:07the media, on youtubees and all of that are speculating as to what the
- 1:11man problem could possibly be after a hundred years of man hatred online and in
- 1:19the world everywhere, and people are like, I don't get what's happening.
- 1:23We should we should just put up like the Declaration of Sentiments and read through
- 1:27it and then just just think about it, like what what what is the
- 1:30implication and the consequences of the Declaration of Senate of Sentiments in the Seneca Fullthu,
- 1:38the the original feminist Manifesto. What could they be? Hmmm, it
- 1:44really agitates the almonds, samans activated, So so it's activated, not agitated.
- 1:53Yeah, Allman's activates really activates the almonds. Like, however, you
- 1:57want to put it right, the Almanack is imagined. So okay, did
- 2:06they actually see my surprise? Did they actually see Janice the Muppets? No,
- 2:13I haven't shown it because I don't we don't have context. I guess
- 2:15you were talking about Megan Fox and how Megan Fox said some bone headed thing.
- 2:23Oh, she said that she is she is her potty aches under the
- 2:27weight of male sin. Yes, of course, totally totally rational thing to
- 2:32say. But you know, I think that ultimately people like Megan Fox,
- 2:37they they're just gonna say, like I was saying, to you before they're
- 2:39gonna say whatever they think they could say that would get them more work in
- 2:44Hollywood and that, and you know, bashing men is very very very easy.
- 2:49It's very trendy. It's very trendy, it's always in season, it's
- 2:52always stylish, and I think that it generally works. So probably she will
- 2:57see some you know, she'll get some phone call, so get some returns
- 3:00on that. You get some returns on that. We call them up and
- 3:04say, you know, in this patriarchy that is entirely for the benefit of
- 3:07men at the expensive women. We really love how we're bashing men. We
- 3:13just we just think that that's totally marketable. Yeah, okay, so yeah,
- 3:19this when when I saw what the kind of like, you know,
- 3:23work that women get done, Like Madonna, I always think of Janice from
- 3:28the Muppets. I think it's I think it's prophetic. No, this is
- 3:30just the way the muppet looks. She can't help it. She was made
- 3:34this way, right, but and she's sort of charming in her way too.
- 3:38Yeah right, okay, all right, let's let's get into the video.
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- 6:28So no Jojo cam because Lindsay is home and so Jojo hangs out with her
- 6:32when when Lindsay's home and I'm doing a show. So let's get into today's
- 6:38video. This is Shoe on Head and well, let's hear what she has
- 6:44to say. I's all, you guys know who she is. She was
- 6:46sort of like in you know, she got involved or sort of rose into
- 6:49prominence in the Gamergate thing, and she was responding to feminist arguments about video
- 6:56games, and then she sort of became involved with the you know what people
- 7:00call the skeptic community, and then you know, that sort of imploded and
- 7:04now she's sort of doing her own thing off on the side. So let's
- 7:08hear what she has to say about men. She used to be on the
- 7:10show. She's been on our show a couple of times way back in the
- 7:13day. So you know, we do we do no shoe more or less.
- 7:17So I had a Twitter interaction prior to this this video. She actually
- 7:24we spoke about that last last episode. I think I think that she talked
- 7:30to you because she had plans on releasing this video, and because like this
- 7:34came out like right after, and I think that she probably already had everything
- 7:40recorded and was putting it together and then she wanted to ask you that question
- 7:45because we've been talking about these issues for ten years. And so yeah,
- 7:50I think that's why she asked you about it, because it's sort of like
- 7:54on the in the front of her brain. So but anyway, let's let's
- 7:57see what she's gonna say. This is about the male lowliness epidemic. That's
- 8:01the section we're looking at. Why are men and boys struggling and what should
- 8:05we do about it? A few new studies have come out that have shown
- 8:07that young men are more lonely and single than ever before. But it's not
- 8:11just met the women and children too. It's predicted forty five percent of women
- 8:16will be single and childless by twenty thirty. But according to the media,
- 8:20this is a good thing. The she economy is booming, as they say,
- 8:24and meanwhile, men being single is trickly like this, well that's what
- 8:28they're saying. So yeah, I mean I do think that a lot of
- 8:35women, I mean, we've already talked about this, you know, with
- 8:37the population, and the and the replacement rates are not going to be met
- 8:41or they don't look like they're going to be met in basically any country in
- 8:46the world, not just like the United States or Canada. In fact,
- 8:48South Korea is the worst about it in terms of like what's you know,
- 8:54nobody knows what's going to happen to the population. And a lot of it
- 8:56has to do with this kind of like women are delaying motherhood or they're not.
- 9:03I mean, from what I saw in reports, the number of women
- 9:09and men that make a conscious decision not to have families has always been around
- 9:15ten percent, and that's number has not changed, and it still has five
- 9:18percent. Yeah, it might be less, it might be five percent.
- 9:20And then there's like five percent that for whatever reason can't have children, like
- 9:24they're you know, oh yeah, some medical problem or whatever. So but
- 9:30like for the most part, it's most people do want children. I mean,
- 9:33it's sort of you know, we're hardwired for that. But what's happening
- 9:39now For the last you know, few generations, and this is everywhere in
- 9:41the world, there's been women who have been you know, they've had this
- 9:46idea that they can delay family and pursue things like career and education, et
- 9:50cetera. And then they come back around to like being Okay, I'm ready
- 9:54now, And unfortunately, you know, they've they've got all these problems.
- 9:58They can't have as many kids, they're not able to have kids, they
- 10:01didn't meet the right guy. They don't, you know, for whatever reason,
- 10:05right, And some of that comes down to what kind of man they
- 10:07like, because if women are making more money than men and then they're looking
- 10:11for men that make more money than they do, then that means that the
- 10:13pool of men to pull from is really small. Men's education, well,
- 10:18everybody's education sucks, but men are getting lower they're not getting as well educated,
- 10:24or they're not getting the same accreditation that women get. So women are
- 10:26looking for guys because they still want to marry up. The pool is shrinking,
- 10:31and so what ends up happening in a lot of cases, think it's
- 10:35like eighty or ninety percent of cases women it's not that they didn't want family,
- 10:41it just didn't happen for them. Because of all I wanted to I
- 10:45want to just point something out here. In our own community, we've had
- 10:50several women start families, presumably too late post wall I guess would be I
- 10:58don't know where the wall is supposed to be. And they're like, there
- 11:01are women who are already on two kids. So the the real limiting factor,
- 11:07I think is not necessarily And yes they did. They did start in
- 11:11their thirties. I said that, didn't I And yeah, yeah, Well,
- 11:18I mean I don't know where the wall is now. Well let's not
- 11:22let's not worry about that. Let's not worry about that. But regardless they
- 11:24started families in their thirties, they've managed to get to two kids. I
- 11:30don't know if they're going to have more. But the thing is that they
- 11:33had solid relationships with men. So even if they did delay having children into
- 11:41their thirties, they still managed to do it because they had been working on
- 11:46their relationships right right, So like it's it's the thing is is not just
- 11:52women delaying having children. It's women delaying settling down in a relationship. I
- 11:58think is really critical. It's like that's the first damn step, right.
- 12:03The key word there is settled, and most women are not willing to do
- 12:07that. That's the problem. And I'm not just blaming women, don't get
- 12:11me wrong, but I mean they are the ones that ultimately, you know,
- 12:15they're the ones that are pursuing career and they have this material interest in
- 12:20the world. They want to achieve wealth and comfort and security and financial stability,
- 12:28etc. And that becomes a primary objective. And so if they can't
- 12:31do it for themselves, then they're gonna want to get it through their men.
- 12:35And so this creates a bottleneck because of the combination of them getting older,
- 12:41them you know, looking at their what they want to gain materially,
- 12:46and what the men have to offer. And there's also I mean you could
- 12:50also throw in things like they want, you know, men with jobs that
- 12:52are you know, to have a high status. So like a man that
- 12:56might be like a laborer or an electrician or something maybe that's they make might
- 13:00make decent money, but it's not necessarily something you can go to a party
- 13:03and brag about. And the truth is, there is a lot of that,
- 13:05and I think it's I think it's disproportionate. I don't think it's everything,
- 13:09but I do think that there's a number of factors. So it's not
- 13:13just I'm getting old and my kids. You know, I might not have
- 13:16kids, but it's like I can't find a man good enough and I've been
- 13:20told that I deserve whatever right the top one percent of one percent, So
- 13:24that's what they're looking for. Then the key thing is, yes they have
- 13:28to settle, but most women don't want to settle. Well, I mean,
- 13:33go ahead, go ahead. Well, I was going to say,
- 13:35when you devalue masculinity, I mean, feminism really is just the process of
- 13:39devalue and masculinity. First, they start with this narrative that men would oppress
- 13:43women without feminism. So the average man is apparently dislikes women and wants to
- 13:52subjugate them sans feminism, And you can't get away from this. That's that's
- 13:56the implication which degrades the value of a man in a woman's life. And
- 14:03then there's just more that you add on top of that, more that you
- 14:07heap up onto that. So you end up with a very men as having
- 14:13to deal with a huge amount of negative press and negative advertising before they even
- 14:20get out of the door. And we feel free, like we feel free
- 14:26to just continue to push this narrative that women are not safe with men,
- 14:31that domestic violence is something that men do to women because they hate women for
- 14:35some reason or a way that men subjugate women in the patriarchy. I mean,
- 14:41all of this messaging is absolutely terrible and right out of the gate.
- 14:46If you're going to make men labor under this negative messaging, it's going to
- 14:50be that much harder for people to develop relationships and family under that negative messaging.
- 14:56I mean, the trans issues, no offense, trans issues, the
- 15:00gay issues, all of that stuff is minimal compared to the effect of the
- 15:05negative messaging about men. Absolutely right at the core, at the core of
- 15:11men would construct a society for their own benefits, so they grab up,
- 15:16they'd hoover up all the benefit. They'd even use domestic violence and rape as
- 15:20a way to maintain the system of subjugation of women. All of that like
- 15:26this is I mean, this is what really sort of aggravates me about conservatism.
- 15:30I know we're talking about the left man problem, but this is sort
- 15:31of I'm going to bring up the conservatives man. The conservatives man problem is
- 15:37that they will tilt at the trans windmill, the gay windmill, the pornography
- 15:43windmill, and they will completely and utterly ignore the gigantic, god damn battleship
- 15:50off the coast, which is feminist theory that is literally blowing society to bits,
- 15:56and they just will just be like, no, that we're not going
- 15:58to address that trans women have Okay, yes we shouldn't have groomers and schools
- 16:07that that should be patently obvious. We shouldn't be having that argument. Yes,
- 16:11you know we should. Gay people shouldn't be having sex with under it.
- 16:15You know, all of this stuff obvious stuffs. Yeah, it should
- 16:19be obvious, and it's unfortunately it seems to be not obvious in certain places.
- 16:23But whatever, The point is that when we're looking at societal degradation and
- 16:29the destruction of the family, you guys like conservatives constantly go after targets that
- 16:36are relatively meaningless in the whole scheme of things. Trans women and women's bathrooms,
- 16:41probably nothing is ever going to happen trans women and women's prisons. Holy
- 16:47shit, I feel bad for the trans women because have you Like, honestly,
- 16:51I don't know what this hell conservatives things conservatives think women's prisons are like.
- 16:56But think about, you know, how men's prisons or like the the
- 17:00the contensed creams of like the the evaporated milk of the of the evil of
- 17:07manhood, And realize that women's prisons are even more concentrated evil than that,
- 17:15like, like they are basically demons in women's prisons, like and that's because
- 17:22you know, you really have to be evil, you have to be black
- 17:26his sin to get into women's prisons, to get through the the the obstacle
- 17:32course of everyone forgiving you because you're a woman, to end up in a
- 17:34woman's prison. So, I don't know what they think women's prisons are like.
- 17:38But you know, the trans woman, the guy who pretended to be
- 17:41a trans woman to get into a woman's prison because he's rape. You know
- 17:45what, it's a problem. It solves itself, honestly in my opinion,
- 17:49because he's just opening a target on his back with some of the most deranged,
- 17:53destructive, evil and violent people on earth. So you know, let
- 17:57him do it. But anyway, so conservatives always go after these targets and
- 18:02they ignore the big one, the one that is responsible for nine percent of
- 18:07the problem. People aren't getting together in relationships. It's because we have said,
- 18:14via feminist theory that men are awful, Like, like you're you're constantly
- 18:21pushing this narrative that men and masculinity is awful. Well, who wants it?
- 18:26Then? Who wants to get in a relationship with it, and then
- 18:30women because the baseline, the average masculinity is subject to such a degrading narrative,
- 18:37women don't have any value in just the average men, so they have
- 18:41to look for the the the higher, and higher. It's a it's a
- 18:47race to the bottom and a race to the top. At the same time,
- 18:49they have to find men who represent the top one percent of man because
- 18:56the average man has no appeal. Why does the average man have no appeal?
- 19:00Calls all of the messaging around manhood and masculinity, and if you're going
- 19:03to focus on all of these niche problems instead of that, you're not doing
- 19:07much of anything to change anything. Okay, I'm off my rant there.
- 19:12All right, let's let's get into the video and find out what the left's
- 19:15doing. Yeah. Study explains why some single men are having a hard time
- 19:21finding a new partner. Some of the music that they listened to speaks very
- 19:25isn't it also what isn't it also like men like ten percent like there was
- 19:30like in two years, there's a ten percent drop in men who are even
- 19:33looking for a partner. Yeah, huh, yeah, Okay, stop listening
- 19:38to that derogatory music, then maybe you won't be single. I don't know.
- 19:42I think men and women being single and lonely kind of shows there might
- 19:47be something wrong with society. Perhaps we should address this, not just wave
- 19:51it off as empowering or pathetic. According to several different articles, Oh of
- 19:56how that's my source, I read about it on the internet. Research shows
- 19:59that people from individualist countries show a greater sense of loneliness. This is linked
- 20:03to socioeconomic development, increased education, a shift towards white collar jobs, and
- 20:10urbanization. Japan also has an issue with loneliness. In fact, I'm just
- 20:14pausing for the band. I don't know if she was going to come after
- 20:17us for this. I hope not. It could just be a YouTube thing
- 20:19though, too, so I don't want to take any chances. They have
- 20:22a whole movement of people they call the Kikukumori. Did I say that right?
- 20:30I don't care. Basically postmodern hermits, mostly young men who completely withdraw
- 20:36from society, secluding themselves in their rooms for months and years at a time.
- 20:41In twenty ten, there was an estimated seven hundred thousand hikukumore in Japan,
- 20:45and today it's estimated to be about one point fifty five millions, and
- 20:51because ooo, yeah, one and a half millions. So that's the herbivore
- 20:56thing we've been like, that's actually what got me sort of started on this
- 21:00role, on this road. I don't know what's wrong with me. I
- 21:03keep hitting my microphone. I just started doing that and now I can't stop.
- 21:08Japan doesn't have the feminism. I don't think it's an individualist company or
- 21:14country though, but they but they do have feminism pretty bad. I know
- 21:17a lot of people think because we're told a lot about how kind of traditionalists
- 21:22they are or whatever. But there was a guy who was from Japan that
- 21:27was translating war in Farrell's book The War on Boys into Japanese to distribute it
- 21:36in Japan, And he came to the ICMI twenty nineteen and I spoke with
- 21:41him. His English was very like, you know, he was very new
- 21:45and so English was not very easy for him. But he was trying to
- 21:49get me to understand that in Japan feminism is an extremely powerful lobby. Of
- 21:56course it is, like I mean, of course it is. It's it's
- 21:59like it's about when it's going to be powerful. No, matter where it
- 22:00goes. I mean, you know, it's it's probably not as bad as
- 22:03it is in Spain, but it's it's really bad. And South Korea same
- 22:07thing. That was a guy you know who was in our chat a couple
- 22:11of weeks ago, who was in South Korea, and he was telling us
- 22:15about, you know, how bad the replacement rates are and that, and
- 22:18I think South Korea might be the worst in the world because men and women
- 22:22are not getting together because of this kind of animosity that is created between men
- 22:26and women. So because of things like this, people aren't having babies.
- 22:32So Japan's population has been in a sharp decline since twenty eleven. It's gotten
- 22:37so bad that Japan even produces videos of live action women staring into the camera
- 22:42to help the hikukumori learn to cope with eye contact and reintegrate them back into
- 22:48society. So basically, if you want to know America's future, look no
- 22:52further than Japan. A lot of people, including myself, blame this partially
- 22:56on the rise of social media and technology. Rip to the King, although
- 23:00technology, I don't I don't blame technology. I hate that excuse. I
- 23:07don't know. I don't think that's simply because look, if it weren't for
- 23:10technology and the Internet, we wouldn't be able to have this conversation right now.
- 23:14So it's not it's not the Internet that does it. It's the it's
- 23:18the behavior and the attitudes of people ideologues on the Internet. It's not it's
- 23:23not the existence of the Internet. I'll put it down. Yeah, yeah,
- 23:26well, I mean also it's probably, uh, the the Internet increases
- 23:33certain social pressures that we haven't really evolved stories to to manage. So you're
- 23:38right, it's not it's not. Technology is not the problem. We can't
- 23:41stop the forward progression of technology or humans. That's what we do. Just
- 23:47you know, it's like it's, uh, termites got to make a hive,
- 23:52ants gotta make an ant hill, and humans gotta technologize. So we
- 23:56we we can't stop that. But sometimes it seems like our ability to socially
- 24:00manage our technology delays, our is delayed relative to the progress our our technology
- 24:08makes, if that makes sense. You know. Yeah, So in that
- 24:11sense, I think it's not it's not that it's technology in and of itself.
- 24:15It's the fact that we have it. I know it, Yeah,
- 24:18I get that. I mean I think that I think that it's probably well,
- 24:25I don't know if she's gonna say this, because I did watch this
- 24:26video, but I can't remember everything because it was really late at night.
- 24:29But okay, let's just keep going. Yeah, you also make us more
- 24:34atomized. Why go to the mall when I can just tap tap tapped,
- 24:37buy a new microphone and have it shipped me in a day. Why hang
- 24:41out with friends when I can get old? Well, I'll say this about
- 24:44the mall. It's because the government shut down all the malls for like two
- 24:49years. Yeah, that's businesses shut down and h all people had to do
- 24:55was all they had was Amazon because it was the only company that didn't require
- 24:59a brick and order location. And now it's a trillion dollar company. And
- 25:03now people like you are complaining that they got so rich even though it's the
- 25:06government that did it. So yeah, that's true. I mean because of
- 25:10COVID shit, that's what it is. I mean, like here in in
- 25:14Roanoke, there's a mall I go to that's where the theater was. People
- 25:18still go in that mall. I can bring my dog in there. It's
- 25:21crazy. People are very social in Roanoke, But in Chicago. No,
- 25:26it wouldn't happen. But any say, what were we gonna say? Well,
- 25:30I was just going to remind everyone to send those super chosen. Yeah,
- 25:33give us the leven because we appreciate it. And that's not gay?
- 25:37Is it? Maybe a little bit not? Well, I mean, I
- 25:40don't know. It depends on who's sending us stuff. Okay, so feed
- 25:44the Badger dot com slash just the tip. Oh yeah, wait wait,
- 25:45wait, wait a second, let me get it out. Feed the Badger
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- 25:52not screaming into the void. Okay, keep going. Oh, although I
- 25:56know that you were saying that's likely we're being told totally trounced by the Blair.
- 26:04Blair White premiered her podcast with Roseanne bar right at the same time that
- 26:10our video came out, so we got seventy one people watching. So hey,
- 26:14guys, they thank you so much for for choosing us over that.
- 26:18Ye. Sure that the Blair White Roseanne bar thing is interesting, but I
- 26:22mean and not, I don't think it's entirely unrelated. But yeah, anyway,
- 26:27okay, I'll say one thing, one shallow thing. Roseanne Barr looks
- 26:32better than than Madonna, than Janice from Madonna. She does. She's she's
- 26:41like lost, I'm actually looking at this. Sorry, she's Roseanne's like an
- 26:45attractive grandma, you know, I guess so yeah, yeah, she's like
- 26:49Sam. That's yeah, she aged, well, she hasn't. She hasn't
- 26:56attempted to laminate her face, yeah, which ends up making it look very
- 27:02strange years to have had a bunch of work done. So no, she
- 27:04just should just lost some weight and obviously keeps herself healthy in her in her
- 27:11in her aged us. I don't know what I don't. I don't know
- 27:18what Madonna is doing, but she well she does. I am now one
- 27:21degree of separation away from from Roseambar. That's oh cool. Yeah we met
- 27:26Blair. Yeah, we've had Blair on the show. She used to be
- 27:29a regular before she blew up. And so now I'm one degree of separation
- 27:34away from Roseambar. But anyway, let's continue social interaction I need from Twitter
- 27:40and streamers. Well, I go on dates and bother meeting women when I
- 27:44could just tap tap, tap Google big boob and get two million results or
- 27:47see my high school crushes holes on only fans for only five dollars instant dopamine,
- 27:52instant satisfaction, and hey, who even need That's a little bit of
- 27:56an oversimplification, you know, like men. If men are not being socialized,
- 28:02like, you know, appropriately by their parents so that they can get
- 28:06into social situations and make friends with people, then they're going to struggle with
- 28:08women as well. And also when you consider that, you know, we
- 28:14live in a post me too world where women can just feel uncomfortable and get
- 28:18a guy fired or kicked out of school or whatever. And we've seen and
- 28:22talked about very many, many, many many stories of this. Why would
- 28:26men bother to take the risk? So, like again, it comes back
- 28:29to what are women doing? It always is why are men acting this way?
- 28:33Is it just because the internet exists? No, it's because there's something
- 28:37about the social environment that men are not comfortable with. Yeah. Well,
- 28:41and the other thing is that when when you say that men don't want to
- 28:45take the risk, there's there's two parts to that, and people need to
- 28:48realize just how much damage this narrative that men don't care about women is.
- 28:55Because men do care about women. They care about women very much. Why
- 29:00do you think that every single nationality has a wifoo attached to it. Have
- 29:06you noticed that Columbia, you know, the lady liberty, every single nationality,
- 29:12starting with the very first nationality, which you know, the Romans who
- 29:17did it first with Roma. You know, the female personification of the nation.
- 29:22Why because men will sacrifice themselves to protect women. They'll even sacrifice themselves
- 29:29to protect an abstraction of a woman. So it's like when you say things
- 29:36like what meet, men call their ships and their cars by female names.
- 29:41Right, yes, because they because they they are, not because they not
- 29:45because they're treating them as property, but because they're treating they're subjectifying them as
- 29:48people. Okay, but here's here's here's the overall, my overall point.
- 29:55When you have something like me too, and the overwhelming narrative is that being
- 30:00approached is harmful to women, men will internalize that and say, well,
- 30:07I don't want to harm women, therefore I'm not going to approach. So
- 30:11it's not even just like, oh, I'm going to risk punishment if I
- 30:15do it wrong, it's that they don't want to do it because they don't
- 30:18want to harm women. Because men are motivated by not harming women, by
- 30:25not wanting to do things that harm women. Okay, so a lot of
- 30:30you know, there will be some men who would be like, you know
- 30:32what, I want to do it because I don't want to face any kind
- 30:33of legal or social repercussion, and that's perfectly valid. But they'll probably be
- 30:40even larger population of men who'd be like, you know, I don't want
- 30:42to do it because I've been told that that is tad amount to rape.
- 30:48So you know what, I'm just gonna not engage in hurting women in this
- 30:52way. So I'm going to stop approaching them period, because I've been told
- 30:57that this is a traumatic for women. What do you think is going to
- 31:00happen if you say that to men? Yep, all right, all right,
- 31:06let's keep going needs a real woman when you could just have an AI
- 31:10girlfriend. We're dating apps really are the great Satan, and I'm convinced they've
- 31:15completely broken men's brains. Women on dating apps are picky. Women in general
- 31:22are picky, and I mean naturally we are pickier. You know, we're
- 31:25the ones who carry the babies, at least for now. But on dating
- 31:29apps, you have to admit it's a little insane. It's safe to say
- 31:32that the commodification of love and the window shopping of dating apps probably has to
- 31:37do a lot with the rise of lonely single men. Men are not just
- 31:41lonely when it comes to dating, they're lonely when it comes to friendship too.
- 31:45According to Vox, Americans are currently in a friendship recession and men are
- 31:48being hit the hardest. Can I just I don't think she's going to address
- 31:52this. Why are men having trouble associating and building friendship with other men?
- 32:00Now she's not. I don't think she addresses that. She just puts it
- 32:04out there like, well, that's strange. You know, not only are
- 32:07men not like able to form relationships with women, but they're also not able
- 32:10to form relationships with their fellow men. Why might that be. Could they
- 32:15have something to do with the fact that whenever men try to get together and
- 32:19associate with each other, women come in and break it up and assume it's
- 32:22dangerous somehow. Or could it be because that everything, every space that men
- 32:30used to have has been essentially disintegrated by women. I mean, i'd say
- 32:35feminists, but I think that when most women are feminists anyway, at least
- 32:39in the upstairs right to some degree, I don't care if you're whatever the
- 32:44newest wave is, or you are like you, you're a suffrage feminist.
- 32:47It's the same ship. That's what most not just most women, most people.
- 32:52But it starts when women say, oh, I don't like that those
- 32:53you're going out with those guys. Oh I don't like that you're going bowling,
- 32:57and I don't know what you're doing or whatever. It is. No
- 33:00wonder men aren't able to build friendships with other men, even if they go
- 33:02to college and they go to join a frat or something. I think it
- 33:07gets broken up Title nine, Dear Colleague, letter, I don't like that
- 33:09these guys are doing stuff. Gosh, I wonder, shoot, I wonder
- 33:13what the problem could be. I wonder why men can't make friends with each
- 33:16other. I mean, it's like these social bonds that people make in their
- 33:23throughout their life, whether they are romantic or platonic, are the most important
- 33:28bonds that we have, Like they are the most important, like our familial
- 33:31bonds, which are also broken because you know, fathers are generally not around.
- 33:37Their divorce rate is really high. People are encouraged or rewarded incentivized to
- 33:43you know, have children outside of wedlock, to get divorces. Why wouldn't
- 33:47they do it? And of course, because nobody's starting families, there's no
- 33:52incentive to think about the future. There's no incentive to say, well,
- 33:54I should probably make this country better for the for my children and my children's
- 33:59children. You don't have children, So here's the I'm just gonna live in
- 34:01the now. That's the whole attitude, right, You're just gonna worship yourself
- 34:06for how as long as you're alive. No wonder men are struggling because men
- 34:10want that. They want to build relationships with men. They want to build
- 34:15a better society. They're looking for a purpose, they're looking for meaning.
- 34:20I wonder why they don't have it. I guess they just stopped. No
- 34:23explanation. Also, you're muted. I don't know if you know that.
- 34:31She might be making tea or something. Okay, I'm gonna keep going.
- 34:36This is a little frustrating though. Sorry. The percentage of men who reported
- 34:39having at least six close friendships fell in half since the nineties. One in
- 34:45five men say they have no close friendships. Looking at all these statistics,
- 34:51the explosion of figures like Andrew Tap is not surprising at all. I believe
- 34:55being a man is a blessing because it starts so difficult. I believe that
- 35:00every man is born without any value at all. I think that the world's
- 35:02never going to think you're important unless you make yourself important. And recently a
- 35:07new study came out about how young men are moving towards the rights, and
- 35:09every other month we the liberal sucked him, leftists whatever you want to call
- 35:15the space online performs the same song and dance. I'm pausing it there before
- 35:21we get into the tweets. I apologize. I I was just enjoying some
- 35:25fighting with my chair. Well while you were, I agree with what you
- 35:30were saying about friendships and the future. I think I would add that again,
- 35:35the feminist narrative destroys everyone's relationships to each other, everyone's like. It
- 35:42destroys men's relationships to other men because well, they're the source of patriarchal oppression,
- 35:46right, yeah, they be some suspicious of their friends, yes.
- 35:51And then it also destroys women's relationships to other women because god forbid you be
- 35:55a handmaiden or a pick me, or like your husband too much, or
- 36:00like it's just really you know, as much as it's misinterests. It is
- 36:05also absolutely misanthropic, Like it's just it's just like the narrative of self hatred.
- 36:10It was, It's like somebody looked at human instincts and be like,
- 36:14ah, you know, how can I how can we make the most amount
- 36:16of people hate themselves in each other? I know, we'll say that all
- 36:22of human endeavor is about oppressing women. Yeah, it just designed it to
- 36:29be fucking mind virus. Okay, So that I just I gotta say this.
- 36:34So so Shoe said, and I don't know if she's concerned about this
- 36:37or not, but she said that more and more young men are moving to
- 36:40the right politically, or at least in terms of their values. And I
- 36:45saw that. I think it was the Guardian or some other like left wing
- 36:51rag from the UK that said that they were basically very concerned that so many
- 36:57teenage boys were moving to the right and moving away from I guess what they
- 37:01thought is the correct position. And I don't know if she's like worried about
- 37:07that, because I know that she's a left lefty. But here's the thing
- 37:10that I think that she's missing and a lot of people miss, is that
- 37:14we have two wings of political thought because we have two genders. Leftism is
- 37:19more feminine, that's just the fact, okay, and right wing ideology is
- 37:23more masculine. So men are just going to where they think they fit better
- 37:28in and we're gonna learn what also pushes them away in a moment when we
- 37:31see all of the tweets from like you know, commy Twitter that are attacking
- 37:37men for shoe even saying what about men, which I think is something that
- 37:43we're all familiar with. So yeah, I mean, first of all,
- 37:45if they are moving to right, so what why is that a problem?
- 37:49Why is that a concerned who cares? Like, if that's where they want
- 37:52to go, then they should be able to go there. So especially if
- 37:54you're not offering anything but a shit sandwich. Yeah. Well, I mean
- 37:59if you look at a lot of it depends on how you define liberal and
- 38:05conservative right, Like, if you look at liberal as being more about pushing
- 38:10the envelope, you would think that it would naturally appeal to men, but
- 38:15that's not what liberalism is now, you know. And if you see conservatism
- 38:22as basically doing what works, that might naturally appeal to women with who have
- 38:28a higher degree of risk. Uh less, Yeah, a risk aversion.
- 38:34But it's like what we have now is, in my opinion, conservatives who
- 38:39won't look at the real problems, and we have liberals who are running It's
- 38:46almost like they're both been feminized. No offense they have. That's right,
- 38:52everybody's we've the whole society. Alison has moved left. It's just that it's
- 38:55how it's how far left they've gone. The left has gone way left,
- 38:59the has gone a little left. So it's not that's why. Like you
- 39:02can't find a person anywhere that will deny or say that feminism was never not
- 39:10necessary, either in another point in history or in another part of the world,
- 39:15because everybody is in favor of it. Now you get what I'm trying
- 39:19to get at. We all move left like like, this is why I'm
- 39:22trying to be very This is why I use left and right and not liberal
- 39:27and conservative or Republican and democrat or whatever, because those terms are not useful.
- 39:31It basically comes down to masculine and feminine. Masculinity is about individuality.
- 39:36It's about essentially taking charge of your own life, and it's kind of a
- 39:42I wouldn't say every man for himself kind of thing, but it's more like,
- 39:46yeah, meritocratic or a man who's basically like, look, I don't
- 39:51need anybody to look out for me. I will protect myself and I will
- 39:53protect my family right by my own means. And leftism is more like,
- 39:58we as a society need to come to get other and protect the weakest of
- 40:00us, right, So, but we have to do it collectively, and
- 40:05that is more feminine. So that's what I'm saying, that's when I talk
- 40:08about it. I guess you could just put it that way that the further
- 40:13left you go, the more feminine you become as a society, and the
- 40:16further right you go, the more masculine to become. Now, what we
- 40:20need is a kind of a balance. But I think that the freedom of
- 40:22choice has to be a central part of that. And the problem with leftism
- 40:28is that it always slips into authoritarianism because that you start hearing messages like well,
- 40:32if we're gonna take care of everybody, then we need to use a
- 40:37centralized power to do it. So that's why leftists tend to be statist.
- 40:40Okay, so yeah, look at the feminist narrative. And this is why
- 40:45it just astounds me how conservatives just cut their own throats. The feminist narrative
- 40:52is essentially, men would be awful without government intervention organized by feminists. Yeah.
- 40:58Sure, but again, we've all become feminist. I mean, not
- 41:01not me. I but I was like not that long ago, you know.
- 41:06That's I mean, I was on the left until like a couple of
- 41:07years ago, when I let the more I looked into this, the more
- 41:10I realized that it was an unsustainable position. And I'm that's why I'm not
- 41:15there. But I'm not talking out of my ass, Like I understand what
- 41:20where she was coming from, you know, in terms of why she holds
- 41:22her positions, But I'm going to be fifty next month, and she's like
- 41:27maybe going to be thirty, So it's I think that it's just the life
- 41:29experience thing is different. So yeah, but what I'm maybe getting at with
- 41:35this is if liberals want to reattract young men, then they have to embrace
- 41:43and refined the connection between that kind of risk taking, a meritocratic risk taking,
- 41:52and the more liberal message of personal autonomy and judging people by their character
- 42:00and their merit. And yeah, you're not doing that. But then again,
- 42:06like the like I said, the conservatives aren't aren't really doing a damn
- 42:09thing either. I mean, maybe they can be encouraged to do it,
- 42:14but it seems like you get the conservatives to focus on the fact that women
- 42:20need to be take take responsibility. We need to start getting this this goddamn
- 42:24anti human feminist message out, start challenging it for a moment. For a
- 42:30moment, you get feminist or sorry conservatives to pay attention, and then they
- 42:35get distracted by the latest goddamn liberal purse puppy and they and they're like,
- 42:38oh no, wait wait wait, wait, wait, wait wait wait trans
- 42:43women or wait wait wait wait wait Muslims And it's like no, no,
- 42:45no, no, no, go back, you got it. You gotta
- 42:49focus here, guys, because those issues are minor. They're like they are
- 42:53like focusing on a firecracker when you're about to drop the atomic paw. It's
- 43:00like, yeah, you know, no one is really destroying society. The
- 43:04others are just distractions. And anyway, so that's that's what I see.
- 43:09And I think again it's because conservatism is infected with this allergy to female responsibility.
- 43:17I'm like, I don't even understand it. I don't understand why it's
- 43:21such a horrible statement to say that women do have responsibility to take for society,
- 43:27and that when half of the human race is no longer expected to take
- 43:30responsibility for society, problems result. When they're given a big goddamn narrative to
- 43:37blame men for everything, problems result. And the only way to stop those
- 43:43problems is to slap the narrative of lack of responsibility metaphorically in minecraft out of
- 43:51their hands and start making start expecting responsibility taking. And I know there's a
- 43:55whole contingent. He's like, we can't expect that from women. Well,
- 44:00for most of human history, women did take responsibility. They had to.
- 44:06People wouldn't have survived otherwise. And this is a really artificial situation we're living
- 44:10in right now. We're living in a bubble that has never existed in the
- 44:14past. We've never been in a situation where women's work wasn't instrumental for the
- 44:20maintenance and of human life, like it was just an add on. We've
- 44:25never had that situation. Now. Women in the past they called it the
- 44:29power of necessity. They were essential to the survival of their communities. Now
- 44:35we're not in that and it isn't you Honestly, I think it is a
- 44:38bit much to expect women to just exist with this, and I don't like,
- 44:46I don't have an answer for you, but to exist without any real
- 44:52purpose or responsibility, like just just be there for no reason except your I
- 45:00don't know, he just all right, nothing anyway, Go ahead, let's
- 45:05let's play some I did get some super child, but I'm gonna read those
- 45:07in a bit. I want to get to I didn't get any sport for
- 45:15my work, so please consider going to feed the Badger dot com slash I
- 45:20and helping me out with that. That would be very great. All right,
- 45:23all right, let's go what's wrong with men? Why is this happening?
- 45:28Why don't we have a leftist Andrew Tate? We need to push men
- 45:30to the left. Andrew Tate rarely, if ever, talks about politics.
- 45:35Andrew Tate talks about men, and the left only talks about men when they
- 45:38talk about Andrew Tate. A few months ago, during one of the monthly
- 45:43song and dances, some progressive people I follow made the mistake of addressing men's
- 45:47issues, and the even bigger mistake of pointing their finger at their own spaces
- 45:52for not doing enough to address. Let's sleep at this all right, So
- 45:57it says this is a socialist say named sid You know it's a commy because
- 46:01they put a rose in their name. And they said the reason young men
- 46:06flocked to alt right MRA movements because that's where we are, is because the
- 46:09left gives brain dead advice to young men. We need to be more compassionate
- 46:14to them for our own sake, ye surprise. I just want to make
- 46:19sure that you guys understand this guy's not saying this because he cares about men.
- 46:22He's saying this because if he doesn't say this, the men are going
- 46:25to join the other side. So he wants to recruit them because they're useful,
- 46:30not because he gives a shit. Yeah, but also, like,
- 46:37how are you going to create these massive social change without the buy in of
- 46:40half the human race? Well, I mean they just thought men just do
- 46:45what women ask them to do. Oh well, okay, let's let's just
- 46:49address the fundamental problem with communism and socialism when it comes to men. You
- 46:54you will not get buy in from men if you do not have some form
- 47:00of meritocracy. You got to figure out that problem or you're never going to
- 47:05get buy in fro men. Okay, you got to have a meritocracy that
- 47:08they can develop themselves within. And if your communism doesn't have that, then
- 47:16it's then it's just not going to attract men. And if your communism has
- 47:21that, it's probably not communism. Not communism like and that's fine. You
- 47:29know, I am perfectly fine with with communists being like, you know,
- 47:31we do need to find that meritocratic system that encourages people to be productive through
- 47:37their free will. And then yeah, but you know, they'll they'll go
- 47:42through that process and they'll they'll think about it very deeply. Hopefully they'll get
- 47:46some life experience and understand how people are are incentivized in the real world,
- 47:52and then they'll come out of it and perhaps they'll be like, you know,
- 47:57maybe this isn't possible with under the under communism, So maybe I need
- 48:02to move my belief system into into something a little bit more compatible with meritocracy.
- 48:10You know, we've you know, a lot of us have been in
- 48:14a similar process. You know, it's not impossible, Brian, I'm not
- 48:17saying I didn't know. I think it. I mean I think meritocracy in
- 48:22a communist state is impossible. No, No, I'm not saying that.
- 48:25I'm saying that if you start to recognize that, well, the necessity of
- 48:30meritocracy in their society, like you cannot are, what are men going to
- 48:35do in a communist system? Well, hell, what's anybody? Yeah?
- 48:40Probably that's what it is. That's what it is like when when you don't
- 48:44own anything but you're expected to work, that's called slavery. So but here's
- 48:47and it will it will be men, Alison, it will be men.
- 48:51It's in a mixed economy like ours. Right now, men are the primary
- 48:54people that are paying into the tax system, which is then reattributed to women.
- 48:58And it's not even a socialist system yet. So if you make it
- 49:00one, men are going to be slaves, period, period. It doesn't
- 49:04matter what color you are, it doesn't matter. All it is about being
- 49:07productive, and all men are going to be expected to do it. Yeah
- 49:10it is. You take away, yes, it's unsustainable. If you take
- 49:15away the meritocracy, you've got guns and goo lags And you're right, it'll
- 49:20be directed at men. In the communist systems of like the the nineteenth century,
- 49:24nineteenth and twentieth century, I don't think they would have functioned if they
- 49:29didn't have if they didn't come from like a more peasant society that was more
- 49:34reliant on women's labor, because I don't think because if they, you know
- 49:42what, this is a very complicated argument, well we should let's let's get
- 49:45away from that, because let's let's just let's just hear what all these really
- 49:49compassionate, open minded liberal types have to say about men and men's issues.
- 49:53Recently, there were some statistics by healthcare companies signa indicating that men are the
- 50:00loneliest generation and addressing it doesn't mean that you turn your back on issues pertaining
- 50:07to women, but it does mean that we should. Why are you focus?
- 50:10Why this? Why is she illustrating this with women? I wonder,
- 50:17Allison, why would the left wing Anna Kasperia young Turks person be focused on
- 50:22women when men are the ones suffering. I have no idea. It's a
- 50:25mystery. It's a mystery to me. No no offense too. But do
- 50:30do women have skin texture anymore? I think it's the lighting and she's probably
- 50:36got filters going. Women don't like all women online now they all have filters
- 50:39except for you. I think I don't know if you're looking at the real
- 50:44person. I'll be honest, they'll put I put a bit of of of
- 50:49lighting and smoothing on because I don't want to. I don't know if I
- 50:52want everybody to be able to count every poor, but I don't. I
- 50:55do not do things like get rid of full. Don't want to look like
- 51:00Paul Elam and Saint Gerard did in a GQ magazine. Yeah. I try.
- 51:04I try to keep it to what's really like, what what would happen
- 51:07if I was able to properly light and shoot with the right lens and other
- 51:15stuff? But this is like, this is like, yeah, she doesn't
- 51:19look like she has a poor or is it a passing familiarity with a poor
- 51:24She looks like she's descended from from some sort of angelic choir. Yeah,
- 51:30except you know, still Anna Casperian, let's keep going on what it is
- 51:37in society that is leading to this epidemic, what the left can do to
- 51:40offer solutions, and how we can basically fight back against the more nefarious figures
- 51:46who have filled the void. Uh that you know, men are struggling with
- 51:52people like Jordan Peterson and what have you now recently, what you can do
- 51:55on the left is you can walk away from your narratives that destroy men's relationships
- 52:07everything that you believe, because that's what you would have. That's yeah,
- 52:09I know. I'm just saying, if you really want to deal with with
- 52:15men's loneliness crisis, you've got to oppose the narratives that are destroying their relationships
- 52:21with themselves, with other men, with women, and with society. So
- 52:25you got this is the like, I don't know how I can be more
- 52:30clear to people, and I know that this is something that seems to be
- 52:32really confusing to most people. When your predominant statement about men and their relationship
- 52:40to themselves, to other men, to women, to society is that they
- 52:45hate women or alternatively want to oppress and subjugate women or use women for their
- 52:52own benefit. If this is your primary statement about masculinity and manhood, okay,
- 52:57that it's criminal or oppressive, men are going to suffer. They're going
- 53:04to feel not just like they can't trust other people, but that they can't
- 53:07trust themselves. They're going to feel isolated from society. Okay. This is
- 53:13this is the consequence of that narrative. The loneliness in men is the consequence
- 53:17of that overriding narrative. And I know that this is hard for people to
- 53:22grasp, but when you say that men don't basically you say men don't belong
- 53:30in a society. Men feel like they don't belong in society. Like when
- 53:37men construct a society by their own efforts, they construct oppression, they start
- 53:44to feel like they don't belong in society. Right, that's the narrative you
- 53:49need to change. And if you're not changing it, and the conservatives don't
- 53:52seem to want to do anything about it, the left doesn't want to do
- 53:57anything about it because it's so damn useful, Like it's it's it's so it's
- 54:01basically the basis of their moral authority. And honestly, like it's also partly
- 54:07the basis of the conservatives moral authority because the West, like is more is
- 54:14better than anywhere else, because what because we treat our women better. And
- 54:19that's not a function of money or you know that kind of thing. It's
- 54:23it's a function of just being you know, Western nations being morally superior.
- 54:29Now that's an attractive message for conservatives. It's probably why they constantly embrace feminism
- 54:34as soon as you talk about the Middle East, because they want that feeling
- 54:39of a superiority, and they left wants that feeling of superiority. And as
- 54:45long as you want that feeling of moral authority and superiority, you're going to
- 54:51be alienating men because it's based on the idea that they don't belong. Like,
- 54:57that's it, let's bring it down a brass tacks. This whole narrative,
- 55:00this whole feminist narrative, essentially means that men as they are do not
- 55:07belong. Why are men lonely? Sorry? I just blew out the yeah,
- 55:14you're everyone's ear drums. All right, I got some super chowds.
- 55:17I want to read through them really quick. So an anonymous person gave us
- 55:22five dollars and says, Joan Head has always been sused to me, and
- 55:24my suspicions were kind of validated when she went after Diana Davidson and became buddies
- 55:30with Vosh. I didn't trust her and didn't her ex try through Micktow,
- 55:37throw Micktow under the bus because of one guy. I'm not sure that sentence
- 55:40makes sense. But also, something weird happened yesterday with the super chow I
- 55:45did send one because some technical difficulty must have happened. I think it happened
- 55:49because I said it exactly as you closed the first story. That's why you
- 55:52couldn't find it. That's weird because then normally they show up in the discord,
- 55:54so I don't know why I didn't show up in the discord. I
- 55:57said that Anita played a game once during the nine and claimed they'd be a
- 56:00gamer. I compared it to a musician and athletes throwing in one film,
- 56:04and because of that they're considered actors. Or someone smoke a cigarette once or
- 56:07twice but died of old age with only those two cigarettes under the belt.
- 56:12The wall for women varies, but it's usually between eighteen to twenty nine.
- 56:15It may stretch to men to late thirties, but that's if she has the
- 56:19genetics, healthy diet and lifestyle like no smoking, no partying, and no
- 56:22drinking, exercise routinely, etc. Miktoo covered the grass eating men thing about
- 56:28almost a decade ago, and now they're caring and trying to push the blame
- 56:30in technology instead of women and feminism. Fuck off, bullshitting cuts all right,
- 56:35thank you for that. There's a lot there, but I appreciate the
- 56:37super chow nonetheless, here's a giggle for you. And let's see. I
- 56:45got Meredith g gives us five bucks, Thank you, Meredith maintaining frame number
- 56:52sixty six honey for the Badgers. And then we got another five dollars from
- 56:55anonymous that says leftists like Shoe and sid Oh Sid is the guy who the
- 57:01tweet was screenshotted, are doing damage control because men are finally realizing that they
- 57:07they're hated because they exist. Men are now saying, fuck you, enough
- 57:10of this shit. I just hope they become Based on male general mutilation rates
- 57:15are decreasing. I do think that there is more conversation around the problems with
- 57:21circumcision too. I agree with that, and that's like the one thing that
- 57:23I think the left does agree with two So to be fair, of course,
- 57:27they see it as a way to dig at, you know, religious
- 57:29people, but I think that it's just a terrible act and it shouldn't happen
- 57:34anyway. Rates are decreasing. If it does come to communism, best believe
- 57:37I'm grabbing my aar because they'll come for our guns. They need to if
- 57:42they want to enslave us. Anna looks artificial. She looks like AI Shoe
- 57:46was talking about LOL or the AI. Yeah, personally, I prefer a
- 57:50natural look. I've noticed that AI women are looking super realistic. Now it's
- 57:54crazy. I mean their hands are probably still weird because they're hiding them,
- 57:59but all right, and I mean they even move, they dance and stuff
- 58:02like that, and you're like, is that AI? I mean some are
- 58:05bad, but like I've seen some really good ones, very convincing. And
- 58:08then thank you again for that super chow. And then ZARANX gives us five
- 58:14dollars and says, this is why I tried sharking the video involving not so
- 58:19Erudite and Kevin Logan, because leftists are thinking they have to take control of
- 58:23helping men while thinking they know best. Their tendency towards collectivism will further harm
- 58:28men. Ironically enough, further irony is they'll keep trying because they won't have
- 58:32properly applied their methods correctly. All right, thank you for those. NOBA
- 58:38Fan twenty one gave us some rumble rants. He gave us two, so
- 58:42thanks guys so much. I wison you your bitching is getting people to respond.
- 58:46Gave us two dollars and said I have the anti tech angle or I
- 58:51hate the anti tech angle people used because far too many parents would rather have
- 58:53their kids stay indoors if it meant keeping their kids safe. God forbid,
- 58:58they teach their kids social skill, Yeah exactly, just think them the birthday
- 59:01parties and shit, socialize your kids. Then Nobah Fan gives us three dollars
- 59:07and says, I just heard that a lot of Republican states are trying to
- 59:09get rid of no fault divorce. I think there is a lot of feminist
- 59:13tiers you can use for content. Well, I mean I've heard that too.
- 59:16We'll see sometimes, you know, like the wheels move slow, But
- 59:21I would say that talking about the problems with no fault divorce for ten years
- 59:24and then you start to see like things changing, I think that's actually probably
- 59:30moving pretty fast. I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm too optimistic,
- 59:32but I don't see a reason to get black pilled. I think that's
- 59:36what they want. So okay, So all that out of the way,
- 59:39did you want to do you have anything or I'm extremely lucky I was mid
- 59:46so hitting the wall. I don't. I probably did at some point,
- 59:51but I didn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't I wouldn't worry about it.
- 59:54Like, yeah, it's like if you're not planning on having children in any
- 59:59way and your husband loves you, who cares? So yeah, yeah,
- 1:00:04no, that's I mean, that's true. I've been told that hitting the
- 1:00:08wall doesn't apply to people to women in long term relationships, but like,
- 1:00:14uh, you know it just so you know, bully for for all of
- 1:00:16the people who have to deal with that shit. I just, you know,
- 1:00:22I just basically attached to the first man. You know what. I'm
- 1:00:30actually happy about that because I don't see how anybody's really been benefited by stending
- 1:00:37that out and not just being happy with what you got, you know what
- 1:00:43I mean. And I guess that's settling. Well, I mean you have
- 1:00:47to settle to settle, So to settle down. Yeah, and uh,
- 1:00:54honestly, I don't think I I think that I'm probably too weird for ninety
- 1:01:01nine percent of men. So there you go. Anyway, let's keep going,
- 1:01:06all right. So I get a super chat spawn free gives us five
- 1:01:09bucks and says where shoe fails is this is the left take from those in
- 1:01:14power for equality? Who has the power recording to left white men? All
- 1:01:17right, So back to the video. Thank you for the super chats and
- 1:01:21super chows and rumble rants. Let us continue. Vosh, who's a popular
- 1:01:27streamer, had tweeted this thread that I think is really really important to address.
- 1:01:31He writes, I cannot stress enough how important it is to understand that
- 1:01:35twelve year old white boys on Twitch are not being pulled into fascism because of
- 1:01:39some machiavellian desire to preserve and expand their privileges. It's because the right talks
- 1:01:45to them and the left doesn't. All right, let me pause there.
- 1:01:49Vosh is a demon. Don't even bother trying to figure out what he means.
- 1:01:52He's basically doing the same thing that I said. His problem is not
- 1:01:57that men are suffering and that he is compassionate. His problem is that men
- 1:02:00are figuring they're going to people that will talk to them, like Andrew Tate,
- 1:02:05and he is threatened by that. This is exactly the same reason why
- 1:02:07Laura Bates and that other woman Moran is writing books about men because they don't
- 1:02:14want men to go where they're going and they're afraid. But they're not actually
- 1:02:19trying to address what men's concerns are. Well, I mean that well,
- 1:02:23yes, the thing the problem is that their fundamental ideology is incompatible with men
- 1:02:30existing. Yes, at let's be honest, Like you say, men don't
- 1:02:35belong, Men don't feel like they belong. They don't exist in your space.
- 1:02:39They can't exist in your space unless you're I guess the supreme one good
- 1:02:44man like vouch or something. But you know, so it's like, of
- 1:02:49course they're like, I don't understand like the Left's fundamental beliefs, at least
- 1:02:53a lot of them, you know, get rid of meritocracies that men like
- 1:02:59and regard men as not belonging to society, and they wonder why men just
- 1:03:05don't have like are chased away by that. Well, yeah, but how
- 1:03:08do you fix it. You've got to accept the role of meritocracy in society,
- 1:03:15and you have to actually get rid of the narratives that condemn men for
- 1:03:21all kinds of crimes that they are not responsible for, and ultimately come down
- 1:03:29to you don't belong like it. You have to do soul searching, and
- 1:03:37the problem is that you won't because again what Brian is saying is all you
- 1:03:42care about is whether or not young men. Yeah, you win, you
- 1:03:45want to win that's all. It doesn't matter what well do you care about?
- 1:03:49That's it. That's what you want to do. You want to win
- 1:03:51is whether or not young men are putting their effort into into you. You
- 1:04:00don't care about what they actually need or the effect on this stuff on them.
- 1:04:04And that's the problem, you know, And I could only hope that
- 1:04:09vousch you know, start is starting on the lip of a journey of self
- 1:04:14discovery. I'm not holding my breath. I wouldn't, but you know,
- 1:04:18like, that's that's what I'm saying to the leftist, any leftists who's tune
- 1:04:21in here. A world without meritocracy is not a world that's going to attract
- 1:04:27men. And a world that constantly tells men that they don't belong is not
- 1:04:34an ideology that basically amounts to telling men that they don't belong because they're doing
- 1:04:40like no, like, I can't emphasize this enough. The worst thing you
- 1:04:44can say about someone is that they hate women or that they they want to
- 1:04:48privilege men over women. That's why men's rights activist is like, this is
- 1:04:53slur number one for all of it. Yeah, yeah, it's like,
- 1:04:57so when you tell men that their function in society is as an expression of
- 1:05:03harming women. You are essentially saying that they don't belong They don't belong to
- 1:05:08anything, they don't belong to life. They are they are toxic to life.
- 1:05:14That's what you're saying. And where do you go from there? Men?
- 1:05:18You're toxic to life? Oh? Okay? Like why are men?
- 1:05:23Why are men going away from the party that calls them toxic to life?
- 1:05:29Yeah? Because maybe some of them want to survive as beings. Okay,
- 1:05:33all right, let's continue. The responses to these tweets in this content were
- 1:05:38very normal, level headed and respectful. Me when I lie, Elomeo cry
- 1:05:45about it? Booth who oh no, poor widow men having problems? Booth
- 1:05:53who grow the fuck up? Then have men considered being smarter? I'm enjoying.
- 1:05:58Well, these said little boyd's, they're said little tweets about their said
- 1:06:01pathetic lives. Sounds like a personal problem. Is the last's just talking about
- 1:06:05twelve year olds? Right? Yes? Like yeah, sure, yeah,
- 1:06:11I mean they're not They're not all women though. These are just commies,
- 1:06:15Allison. This is what commis think about men. This is what they think.
- 1:06:17Okay, that's let's just let's just put that out there. This is
- 1:06:21what commies think about men, because that's what they're saying. And this is
- 1:06:27not over. This goes on for a few minutes. We can listen to
- 1:06:30the rest of these and I mean, I know this is Twitter, so
- 1:06:33it kind of like puts things through a bit of a filter, right,
- 1:06:36like of of the worst shit. But I mean, you've seen the kind
- 1:06:44of like responses that you've gotten a Twitter as a woman. Imagine being a
- 1:06:46man trying to say those same things. Imagine being vousch okay even just or
- 1:06:53even a commy like vousch. That's like, hey, guys, we don't
- 1:06:57want the men join the fascists. We should we should try to like get
- 1:07:00them to come over to our side because we want to win. And they're
- 1:07:02still like, but we hate men though, But fuck men though, even
- 1:07:06if they're twelve year old boys, fuck them. Yeah they what what what
- 1:07:11privilege to twelve year old boys have? They will become oppressors and rapists.
- 1:07:15Apparently, this this is insane, Like this entire framework of reality is insanity.
- 1:07:24I'm gonna say that right now we are living in a fucking cult.
- 1:07:29The cultists are the ones in charge. Yep, well, actually not the
- 1:07:33cultists. The ones manipulating the cultists are the ones in charge. This is
- 1:07:38all psychotic, Okay, this is psychotic behavior. And the fact that they're
- 1:07:44directing this at twelve year old boys who are are moving away from this psychotic
- 1:07:49behavior, well geez, why, I mean, all we want to do
- 1:07:54is beat them. Why why do the twelve year old boys? Why are
- 1:07:57they running away from us? Must be they're afraid of losing their privilege.
- 1:08:00Come over here, boy, I want to brain you with a metal bat
- 1:08:03like dumb. It's so dumb. It is dumb. It is it.
- 1:08:10It is going to be what destroys our society. Guys, this is it.
- 1:08:14We are looking at the eye of what is destroying our society, and
- 1:08:19that pushing this out into the greater world is destroying every other you know,
- 1:08:24the Sub Saharan Africa. Well, they're eventually going to be a blow replacement
- 1:08:29too. This is what is not just destroying our society. I'm being optimistic.
- 1:08:32This is not just destroying the civilization. This is destroying our species.
- 1:08:38Right now we're watching it. This stupidity, yep. Okay, and it's
- 1:08:45because they need a scapegoat. Probably, Okay, I'm gonna have to I
- 1:08:49have spilled my tea. God damn it, and I need to get of
- 1:08:53myself. I need to get myself something that is and fibrous to clear the
- 1:09:01tea up that I have spelled on my desk. Weight or I'm gonna play
- 1:09:06more the recipes, play more. I have already got a taste, Brian.
- 1:09:11I'm pretty sure that I'm not expecting this taste. I want you to
- 1:09:15really, like really take this in so you know like what it is we're
- 1:09:19actually up against. Okay, and in the room with us right now.
- 1:09:23Maybe men are just not good people. Then I'm so fucking tired of people
- 1:09:27trying to make male loneliness a huge societal problem. Yeah. No, their
- 1:09:31fiefees are not my responsibility and I shouldn't have to be punished because they can't
- 1:09:35get their ship together as human beings grow the up. Why are we trying
- 1:09:40to win these entitled little predators over The left isn't for them, That's why
- 1:09:44they go right in the first place. We're all lonely and alienated. It's
- 1:09:47young men going to the alt right and droves. The problem isn't our messaging,
- 1:09:51it's them. It's literally not our problem. Men flocks at every go
- 1:09:56back to that Yeah, who, let's go back to that one, this
- 1:10:00one. But why why are we trying to win these entitled little predators over?
- 1:10:05So boys don't belong in our society? Why are they leaving? What
- 1:10:11the okay, just how does this make sense? Doesn't matter? I believe
- 1:10:20that men don't belong, boys don't belong in the left. We're all lonely
- 1:10:27and alienated, but we don't believe that boys belong in the left. Why
- 1:10:30are they leaving the left? Obviously it's something wrong with them even though they
- 1:10:34don't belong and we've I've just said that boys don't belong. This is this
- 1:10:42is a mental dysfunction. Okay, they are projecting their own, their own
- 1:10:47statement onto boys. Why are men and boys leaving because they don't belong all?
- 1:10:54Obviously everybody's alienated. They're leaving because they're bigots, not because I just
- 1:10:59said they don't belong. Like, yeah, this much fuck, this much
- 1:11:05mental fuck is hurting me. I've seen I've seen this and worse. Problem
- 1:11:11isn't a good messaging. It's them. It's literally not our problem. Men
- 1:11:15flocks to andertaate not because they're lonely, but because they're biggots. Hope this
- 1:11:18helps. Nah, it's just misagnists being louder than before, not getting laid
- 1:11:23ll cry harder losers. Ninety percent of all homicides recorded worldwide, we're committed
- 1:11:28by male perpetrators. We should just get rid of all males. To be
- 1:11:31honest, this includes trans women, as they still retain male violence. So
- 1:11:38yeah, trans women, your days are numbered. That whole thing is a
- 1:11:42lie. And I don't and I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised at all.
- 1:11:45So fuck it. You know, let's bash on the right some more.
- 1:11:48Let's do that. Let's balance things out. You guys don't pay attention
- 1:11:54all right, actually agrees with that in many cases that you know, Maile
- 1:11:58violence, her DIRP trans and also men blah blah. Like. There is
- 1:12:02this collusion between the Radfems and the and the and the conservatives. Now it's
- 1:12:09unholy. It is possibly one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen.
- 1:12:15And uh, and they don't seem to like the conservatives so much want to
- 1:12:19get rid of or destroy trans women that they're willing to throw their own sons
- 1:12:24under the bus to do it. It is despicable. Yep. And I'm
- 1:12:29not going to deny that that that is despicable. Again, I don't think
- 1:12:33that. I think that Shoe when I'm well meaning commies, Okay, I
- 1:12:40think you're gonna find a great deal of difficulty squaring the meritocracy circle. I
- 1:12:47have a meritocracy in order for a society to appeal to young men. Figures
- 1:12:51it out, because I don't think that. I don't think it's sustainable.
- 1:12:55I don't think this works. I think that men are the square peg.
- 1:13:00You're trying to fit them into a round hole. Regardless, not gonna happen.
- 1:13:02If she is truly led by compassion for men, she will cogitate on
- 1:13:09that and go through her own process and maybe realize pop out on. Okay,
- 1:13:14So it has to have some kind of a meritocracy, and if you
- 1:13:17can make meritocracy work with communism, I would love to see that magic.
- 1:13:26Yeah, somebody get them a trophy. Okay, So I got another super
- 1:13:29chow from somebody. His name is Phil, not Paul, gives us five
- 1:13:34dollars and says sorry if you had a hard time reading my super chow,
- 1:13:38I'm dyslexic. My point was that Shoe is full of shit. Yes,
- 1:13:41she has talked about male issues, but so has Vosh, believe it or
- 1:13:44not. If you dig through his livestream, you'll find moments of him talking
- 1:13:45about male issues. That said, Vosh still believes men are evil, especially
- 1:13:49white men, but he's just using white men as a shield to attack all
- 1:13:53men. And that's usually what feminists them left us do. And this is
- 1:13:56who Shoe is friends with. I don't trust her, I'll say this.
- 1:14:00Let me say this though. Okay, so we have had Shoe on the
- 1:14:01show before. I think that she's well meaning. I think that she believes
- 1:14:05that being on the left means that you care about people and that you are
- 1:14:09compassionate. I think that a lot of people who are on the left believe
- 1:14:12that because that's kind of what we're all fed from before we were born.
- 1:14:15But I think that if she's really going to follow this through to his logical
- 1:14:18conclusion, she's gonna have to go on this kind of like logical journey.
- 1:14:21And the fact that she sold talks to people like Allison tells you that she's
- 1:14:26not fully bought in. Bosh, on the other hand, complete demon,
- 1:14:30absolute like fucking tank Ekami, violent, murderous piece of shit, but Shoe.
- 1:14:35I wouldn't put her in the same I wouldn't put her in that camp.
- 1:14:39Okay, let me let me put this, put put this to to
- 1:14:42everybody who's listening. We have said take and your take, you know,
- 1:14:47for the good things he's done. Let's look at what he's done that's positive
- 1:14:53and we can focus on that without having to constantly apologize for everything negative that
- 1:14:58he's done. And yes, he's done negative things. Okay. Can we
- 1:15:00look at Shoe and not necessarily Vosh. I don't. I don't. I
- 1:15:03don't know enough about Vosh to have commentary on him. Can we look at
- 1:15:08this and say, Okay, she's here, this is positive, This is
- 1:15:13at least expressing concern about men so far for being men, not just because
- 1:15:18necessarily, Like I get from the tone of this that the contempt and the
- 1:15:26hypocrisy is not sitting well from her on her No, I think that she's
- 1:15:31like basically realized that, you know, like there's a lot of man hatred.
- 1:15:36Well, this is this is the true This is the true reality of
- 1:15:42quote quote unquote liberal or left compassion. They still have a scapegoat and they
- 1:15:46are vile to that scapegoat. Yes, and it depends. It's dependent on
- 1:15:53the oppress oppressor dichotomy. So there has to be an oppressor, so there
- 1:15:57has to be men because it can't be women. Yeah. So I mean,
- 1:16:00so let's take it what she's offering for what it is, and we'll
- 1:16:06see see what happens. Yeah, I mean the whole video. Who knows.
- 1:16:11I think that she is on a journey for sure, and I hope
- 1:16:14that she figures it out. That's all I'll say. So. By the
- 1:16:15way, God knows more feminists who are like oh, men are sexist and
- 1:16:19rapist, male tears, penises are evil, blah blah blah. Back in
- 1:16:23the day, Well this is them now. Should I just let me cook
- 1:16:26back? Then listen up? Chuckle. I'm white, socially awkward, autistic
- 1:16:30in my forties, ugly, overweight, crippled, got a weird bowlding pattern,
- 1:16:35and have bad skin. You know what I didn't do choose to become
- 1:16:40a fascist because I recognized most of the sort that look like me are the
- 1:16:45problem. I may be hideously ugly and what holy crap. Yeah, okay,
- 1:16:54can I don't even know that might that might be a woman, I'm
- 1:16:57not really sure, but can be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised. I
- 1:17:04have massive self loathing and self esteem issues. I am attracted to people who
- 1:17:09think that my biogroup is the problem. Incidentally, I don't think women as
- 1:17:15a biogroup or a problem, right. I think there's a lot of shit
- 1:17:19that's come intersected in in this particular century to cause what we're seeing among women
- 1:17:27now. And one of those big things is that women no longer have the
- 1:17:32kind of heroic character arc or the heroin character arc in in in fairy tales,
- 1:17:41like a lot of fairy tales were about the development of women's psychologically little
- 1:17:46red riding hood, the Snow Queen, even the Iron John, which was
- 1:17:51mostly about a young man but also had bits and pieces of female development in
- 1:17:56it. So I mean, we don't have those stories anymore. And think
- 1:18:00about it. Two hundred years ago, those would have been our media and
- 1:18:05our predominant messages, and are the predominant stories that we that that people existed
- 1:18:12within and took as models for their lives. Right, So women had and
- 1:18:16now women do not. They don't have the maiden, which represented courage,
- 1:18:21they don't have the matron, which represented strength in helping others, and they
- 1:18:26don't have the crown, which represented wisdom from the first two from so they
- 1:18:30and maidens were courageous. They suffered, and they never let that suffering change
- 1:18:35how they responded to their circumstances. It was it was very much like,
- 1:18:40almost like a take on a female version of the christ myth. So this
- 1:18:45was critical stuff and we don't have that anymore. The only archetype that is
- 1:18:48left for women is not even really an archetype is the wretch, is the
- 1:18:54victim. That's it, and that has had a huge effect on their development,
- 1:18:59not to end also being in a situation where they're no longer critical to
- 1:19:02the survival of the human race. That has I think that's fucked women over
- 1:19:08mentally, sure, so much Like I started to talk about this, but
- 1:19:14it is hard. Okay, I don't have as much of a problem with
- 1:19:16it because I feel like I have other things to offer. But it's hard
- 1:19:21if you're a woman looking at what men do in our society today. And
- 1:19:28they like to deny this, but I can see it in the rad fems,
- 1:19:31and I can see it in other women, and they see how men
- 1:19:35have constructed a society of wealth prosperity, safety, they manufacture utilities, They're
- 1:19:43essentially responsible for all of this unless you go out into the boondocks and you
- 1:19:46see rural women actually doing work. It's hard, yeah, because it creates
- 1:19:53a sense of profound insecurity. You know, you feel like, I can
- 1:19:59see why women and we're thinking that the Barbie the Kens were like a an
- 1:20:04expression of their own kind of insecurities because the kins only exists like a accessory.
- 1:20:12And that's I think the way that women have felt for the last couple
- 1:20:15of centuries that their work is no longer necessary or essential, and it's it's
- 1:20:20led to a gigantic existential crisis that Betty Friedan's problem with no Name, Well,
- 1:20:30the problem with no name is you you no longer feel like you really
- 1:20:32contribute. Yeah. Sure, and honestly it's it is like you can't.
- 1:20:39I will say this, and yeah, I'm going into the situation for women.
- 1:20:43I know, Men's Rights podcast, weird, weird subject matter. It's
- 1:20:45a big ask too for women to go from being in a position of being
- 1:20:50absolutely necessary for the survival of humanity to being in a position where they just
- 1:20:57sort of sit on their hands in a house with nothing to do except maybe
- 1:21:04three hours of work a day and contribute what well. They could raise children.
- 1:21:14Yeah, they could raise children. They could, they could, And
- 1:21:15I know that we've created a bunch of technological advances to make h you know,
- 1:21:20the care for the home a lot easier, so that it takes a
- 1:21:23lot less time, so they're not working like the entire day. But then
- 1:21:27we also women could be homeschooling their kids. I mean, I think these
- 1:21:31are they could be socializing them. My ultimate point to this is women right
- 1:21:39now and they have a lot of arrogance, should be sure, but it's
- 1:21:44hiding an insecurity over what it is they actually contribute to society. Yeah,
- 1:21:48and feminism gives them a narrative to deal with that insecurity. It basically says,
- 1:21:55oh, you, you would be the one doing all of this,
- 1:21:58except you know, men stopped and so it replaces a sense of moral superiority,
- 1:22:05so sanctimony that insecurity is replaced with sanctimonious self righteousness, which is very
- 1:22:14attractive without actually having to deal with the insecurity. Okay, that was a
- 1:22:18long aside. Let's let's continue. But at least I'm not a fascist.
- 1:22:23Thank you for your input, buddy, You're really helped in this situation.
- 1:22:27The reason young men flocked to alt right MRA movements is because the left gives
- 1:22:30brain dead advice to young men. We need to be more compassionate to them
- 1:22:34for our own sake. So, yeah, we're brain dead MRA alt right.
- 1:22:39I mean we knew that. Though we knew that, although you're saying
- 1:22:42the left gives them brain dead advice, I'm not exactly like ultimately men's rights
- 1:22:48activists. I don't give a fuck, Like I'm probably worse than anybody else
- 1:22:55here on Honey Badger Radio, right left, Democrat, Republic, and I
- 1:23:00don't give a fuck. My primary my primary interest isn't helping men. However
- 1:23:08that looks that that is, that is it. So I'm not sure why
- 1:23:12they think that I'm moving men towards any particular or trying to move men towards
- 1:23:17any particular political wing, because they don't fire Allison, because they don't care,
- 1:23:23because you are taking them. You're taking these men that could be really
- 1:23:28useful foot soldiers away from them and towards anything else. That's why not being
- 1:23:33yeah, but not being a foot soldier, yeah, any any anywhere else
- 1:23:39like set being a foot soldier exactly brain dead advice to young men. We
- 1:23:43need to be more compassionate to them for our own sake. I'm sorry,
- 1:23:46but how is respect women brain dead advice? Are you breep? Okay?
- 1:23:53All right? Sorry guys, I muted myself before I went nuts. What
- 1:23:58the fuck does respect women mean? What are you respecting? Are you respecting
- 1:24:06the bonus hole? Are you respecting the movies? Oh? Wait? Wait,
- 1:24:11wait is that transphobic? Then? Are you respecting? Calling myself a
- 1:24:16woman? Like? What are you respecting? When you say respect women without
- 1:24:23respect men? What are you saying? Well? Of course, at the
- 1:24:27base of it is this idea that somehow, somewhere people aren't putting women first,
- 1:24:31because that's what it really means. Yes, it is brain dead advice.
- 1:24:38Women should be subject to a meritocracy just like men. I know that
- 1:24:42they'll never be as subject to meritocracy just like men, but they should be
- 1:24:45because that's what makes life worth living. Striving to be better, you know,
- 1:24:55that's what means. You know. The funny thing is that when you
- 1:25:00strive to be better, it gets you over things like the wall, because
- 1:25:06at least at the end of the day, you've gained something from your life.
- 1:25:11You've gained some wisdom. You haven't just been a victim of everything.
- 1:25:15Okay, all right, what advice? Don't rape? Well, how about
- 1:25:20you guys, like don't write? Why do men need this advice more than
- 1:25:25women? Don't be a rapist? Is bad advice? Help? I have
- 1:25:31no friends or community. I feel suicidal. Have you considered not raping?
- 1:25:36I have like a decent human being? It's not hard? Is brain dead
- 1:25:41advice? Don't make me understands they're they're coming from the position that they are
- 1:25:46the only ones who are decent. Like this isn't This is one thing that
- 1:25:50I really really annoys me because I realized that I was buying into it.
- 1:25:56Don't rape isn't something that feminists invented, nor is it something that the left
- 1:26:01has some kind of claim over. This is basic human understanding of the world.
- 1:26:11All right, don't rape? Yes, because rapists are a weird minority
- 1:26:16of sexual deviance that nobody fucking likes. Okay, you don't need to tell
- 1:26:21the average person, or at least the average man, not to rape.
- 1:26:26He's not going to rape, because so you're saying that, like feminists have
- 1:26:31taken common decent behavior and claims their own and they invented it. Yeah that
- 1:26:40yeah, yeah, like they invented men caring about women, they invented being
- 1:26:43decent. No, Okay, rapists are freaks. They're genetic freaks. They're
- 1:26:49more distinct from normal men than straight men are from gay men. And I'm
- 1:26:55not saying that gay men or straight men or genetic freaks. Rapists are genetic
- 1:26:58fucking freaks. They're absolute retarded weirdos. Okay, they are disgusting, and
- 1:27:05most human beings find them disgusting because we don't like rape. Feminism didn't invent
- 1:27:12that. That just that is just bog standard for a human being respecting women
- 1:27:17and not liking rapists while male rapists bog standard. Okay, Feminists don't get
- 1:27:25to claim that, just like they don't get to claim potty training and roofs.
- 1:27:30Right, those those aren't feminist things. That's just you know, as
- 1:27:34soon as we wore clothes, we taught our young not to ship in them,
- 1:27:39as soon as we decided we didn't want to be reigned on, we
- 1:27:42had roofs. Okay, Feminism wasn't responsible for those things either. That's just
- 1:27:46bog standard for humans. Yeah, all right, let's let's continue get consent
- 1:27:55and don't be a nassi. And women are people walking up to men struggling
- 1:27:59with lowliness and depression, like kids, don't be facist. Incredible. Here's
- 1:28:04my actual advice I would give to my teen boys as a leftist. One
- 1:28:09always get enthusiastic consent to save the planet. Three, don't say that it's
- 1:28:15actually kind of racist, Like, well, how does this address men and
- 1:28:19their issues? It doesn't. Yeah, welcome to the club, show welcome
- 1:28:25to She just say it doesn't. At the same side, it doesn't.
- 1:28:29I think we just said it doesn't at the same damn time. Oh god,
- 1:28:34yeah, no it doesn't because the left is in some kind of Peter
- 1:28:43natural love affair with condemning men, and if we recognize their issues, we
- 1:28:47could no longer condemn them. Okay, it's it wants to. It has
- 1:28:54projected this image onto men. This is how it's. It's like, it's
- 1:28:58like going into Nazi Germany and saying, how does this help Jewish issues?
- 1:29:02That's not the point. The point is that we need to scapegoat men,
- 1:29:06and the only way that we can see them as having issues is that they're
- 1:29:10not scapegoated enough. M all right, let's keep going seem to be become
- 1:29:17a liberal. Hey, men, here's how to fix all your problems.
- 1:29:20Agree with me Politically, men flocked to the MRA movement because they're the largest
- 1:29:25beneficiaries of MRA shit. Imagine saying women beneficiaries of what? Okay, memoration?
- 1:29:31What's memora shit? Like I'm trying to think here, no idea like
- 1:29:35barely paying your rent on time? Is that what you mean? Shoe?
- 1:29:39Or like? Whoever? That Twitter person was not shoe, it wasn't I
- 1:29:42know, I know she's reading somebody else's things. Okay, what is MRA
- 1:29:45shit? Basically no offense, not getting anything done for years, not getting
- 1:29:54the issues addressed for fucking years because we're dealing with a horrible headwind. The
- 1:29:59only thing that m r SHT does successfully is for the men who actually tune
- 1:30:04in and listen and share this with other men. We challenge the idea that
- 1:30:12men do not belong to society, that men aren't a positive contribution contributors to
- 1:30:17society, that men aren't important to society, that men don't have a bog
- 1:30:23standard, don't rape respect women like that. That's the factory setting for men.
- 1:30:28This is what we say, and we have been at least successful in
- 1:30:30continuing to say it. All right, that's it. So what so Mr?
- 1:30:38The biggest sounds like fascism to me, Allison, I can't I'm sorry,
- 1:30:43I can't hear over the sound of street white male. So the men
- 1:30:47are the biggest benefactors of being told that they're not horrible and that they don't
- 1:30:53belong. Yeah, okay. The only way that we will allow them in
- 1:30:59is they completely abandon their identity as men, and because if they identify as
- 1:31:03non binary or something, then they can join. See, so they have
- 1:31:06to abandon their identity, their personhood and then agree with whatever crazy thing that
- 1:31:12these people believe and then just go along with it and do as they're told,
- 1:31:15and then you'll be free. So there you go, and then we'll
- 1:31:20consider addressing everything after we've dealt with you. You embrace the fact that you
- 1:31:25don't belong to society and you are a net drain on it. Men,
- 1:31:28you will be free of your depression and loneliness. Ye, all right,
- 1:31:34what will happen? This is what will happen. Men will not be free
- 1:31:39of their depression and loneliness. They will accept it as their lot in life.
- 1:31:44Oh yeah, that's that's what you gotta do. You gotta come to
- 1:31:45terms with it. Okay, Albatross gave us a super child and says for
- 1:31:51five dollars most slash. All of identity politics is tooled for women by women.
- 1:31:56The reason why guys don't buy into intersectionality is because they being forced to
- 1:32:00speak a language they don't speak. Yeah, I think so. I mean,
- 1:32:04like again, if you look at it in terms of masculine and feminine,
- 1:32:09I think that identity politics is feminine. It's like the Adam and Eve
- 1:32:14story. You know, Adam was meant to name all of the animals and
- 1:32:18plants on in the world, and he had the job of categorizing everything,
- 1:32:24and which put him in the role of a kind of a scientist, you
- 1:32:27could say. And Eve she was She was the one that could speak to
- 1:32:30the animals, so she had an intuition and she would advocate for them so
- 1:32:35that Adam would and she would challenge Adam's categorization. Right, So it was
- 1:32:40meant to be balanced and complimentary. Eve helps Adam, but she's kind of
- 1:32:44uh, let's say, I wouldn't say devil's advocate, there's too much irony
- 1:32:48in that. But like she's supposed to an advocate for the vulnerable. Oh
- 1:32:53yeah, an advocate for the for the things that can't speak for themselves,
- 1:32:57because she could speak for the animals. So that's why she was approached by
- 1:33:00the serpent and not Adam, because you can talk to the animals, but
- 1:33:03Adam could not, so the and that that's something I learned not long ago.
- 1:33:09It was super interesting. But it's sort of like it's it sort of
- 1:33:13puts like where women are coming from. That's why women are drawn to these
- 1:33:18this kind of identity politics thing because they're they're putting people into categories based on
- 1:33:24what they believe their needs are and who needs to be advocated for. And
- 1:33:29the last person on that list is men, regardless of race or anything else.
- 1:33:33So that's the reasons and men don't work that way. We just where
- 1:33:36we look at the world in terms of what you know of hiring, meritocracy
- 1:33:42and what learned, it's almost like that that would be a very beneficial thing
- 1:33:46if there was a group of humans that could had very little ability to advocate
- 1:33:49for themselves or get their needs met, you know, like something if only
- 1:33:55if only human race produced some small vulnerable part of itself, you know,
- 1:34:00like a human being in a small vulnerable state. All right, so thank
- 1:34:09you, albatross. I am inclined to agree. I think that it is
- 1:34:12a difference of the way. Also, it doesn't work. It doesn't like
- 1:34:15intersectionality. It doesn't work. And the reason why it doesn't work is because
- 1:34:19it doesn't allow for a huge component of the humanity of the people that women
- 1:34:26at supposedly are advocating for. It works when you're advocating for infants because infants
- 1:34:30don't have agency and they can't be expected to take responsibility. Yet it doesn't
- 1:34:35work for groups of people who need to have their agency respected and the consequences
- 1:34:41of their actions. So they are basically murdering parts of the psyche of these
- 1:34:45groups in order to put them in the mold of a purse puppy of an
- 1:34:51infant. Okay, all right, let's keep going to women's rights activism,
- 1:34:56because they're the biggest beneficiaries of women's rights. Like, no, let's be
- 1:35:00honest, aside from procreation propose, that's a really good point. Yeah,
- 1:35:04yeah, obviously that's what But they don't. But the thing is, they
- 1:35:08don't think that we should be doing that. They think they should be doing
- 1:35:10that, but they haven't been that they think they're doing. Men shouldn't be
- 1:35:13men shouldn't have any rights at all. And also that's equality. Yeah,
- 1:35:17maybe we'll let you, you know, we'll give you a circuit court position
- 1:35:20at most. Maybe yea. They have become obsolete. Most women can find
- 1:35:27other method even orgasm without a man. There is that is that all that
- 1:35:30matters. Yes, these people are materialists. They don't care about families.
- 1:35:35They think that sex is not only for pleasure. We've already covered this in
- 1:35:39previous shows. Okay, so most women can. So you think that men
- 1:35:45have become aside from procreation, men have become obsolete. Dude, you are
- 1:35:51so full of it. Men. Okay, here's the thing, and this
- 1:35:56is something that I still haven't got an answer from the radems and their visions
- 1:36:00of fem topia. The fact is that men who have a higher because they're
- 1:36:05men, they have a higher risk tolerance. They also have a higher tolerance
- 1:36:11for discomfort, they have a higher tolerance for exhaustion, and they have a
- 1:36:15greater physical capacity. Because of those natural biological endowments. Women don't have to
- 1:36:23do certain jobs. They don't have to be linemen, they don't have to
- 1:36:28work on rigs, they getting oil. They don't have to do trash collecting
- 1:36:33because men are willing to do it with the right incentive structure, which is
- 1:36:39a meritocracy. Okay, nobody has to be forced to do it. They
- 1:36:42will volunteer to do it because they are more indifferent to the risks and the
- 1:36:46harms of these jobs, and they are more responsive to the rewards. And
- 1:36:53that's just the way men are. Okay, it's not it's not a bad
- 1:36:57thing, okay, but we we enjoy the fruits of all of that in
- 1:37:01a comfortable society. So, no, men are not obsolete. This is
- 1:37:05utter bullshit. Mhm, you look like a thumb. Alright, sorry,
- 1:37:13all right, let's continue. Man, most of us are horrid to be
- 1:37:16around. And I don't know, you're not women for just saying no thanks,
- 1:37:20Oh my god, men are adorable. Yeah, but you know what,
- 1:37:25this kind of like self deprecating shit that these like feminist men do,
- 1:37:29it's so normal, Like I always anticipated, Oh, we're the worst,
- 1:37:33we are the worst, am I right? So what are you doing later?
- 1:37:38Yeah, it's it's some weird reproductive tactic. Yeah it is, it
- 1:37:45is. It's okay, but I just you know, there are things that
- 1:37:48annoy me about men, definitely, Like it's just like there are things that
- 1:37:54annoy me about women. But you know, for the most part, men
- 1:37:59and women are generally adorable. Uh the more I uh, strangely enough,
- 1:38:04I think my dog has really enlightened me to how charming a social species can
- 1:38:11be. So you know, it's this is ridiculous, and it's you're right,
- 1:38:16it's just you know, it's not even worth too much commentary because you're
- 1:38:19it's probably sort of reproductive, just like it's a it's such a common thing
- 1:38:25for these like I mean, I think that a lot of men have bought
- 1:38:29into the idea that their ship because they're because of their gender, and they
- 1:38:34this is just one of the ways they cope. It could be a mating
- 1:38:38strategy too. But this guy was responding to Brianna Woo, who is a
- 1:38:43trans woman, so I don't I don't know if he was hitting on her,
- 1:38:46it's possible, but I think that there's a lot of guys that internalize
- 1:38:49that and they're just like, yeah, we are we are garbage. We
- 1:38:53are garbage. So every just pearly thing's tweet looks like to me, just
- 1:38:58I don't think. So that's one thing I will disagree with. So she's
- 1:39:00saying that Pearl does the same thing but in reverse. But I think what
- 1:39:05Pearl is saying is more valid than what these people are saying, far more
- 1:39:11value. It's it's not hate. She's challenging women. She's saying edgy things,
- 1:39:15she's upsetting people, she's saying, Yeah, she's saying base things though,
- 1:39:19like for the most part, you know, so I don't think it's
- 1:39:23I don't think that's fair to Pearl. Let me let these people hate men.
- 1:39:28So yeah, I think that she might be ribbing in some cases,
- 1:39:31she might be ribbing on on women's arrogance and entitlement as opposed to women themselves.
- 1:39:39Uh, this is this is all this is men, you know,
- 1:39:43this is this is what men are not, ribbing on arrogance and entitlement.
- 1:39:46But you know, in some ways, I would disagree with some of what
- 1:39:49Pearl says because it's it seems really materialistic in some ways, like you're talking
- 1:39:56about women's sexual market value. But then again she's talking to women who are
- 1:40:01materialistic. Yeah, I mean when I look at this stuff, it's like,
- 1:40:05well, I guess that's the thing but it's not relevant to my life,
- 1:40:10Like you don't have to if you actually just commit and settle down,
- 1:40:16it becomes less and less relevant. If you are in a situation where you're
- 1:40:21constantly wanting to get the best deal and you can't manage your own greed enough
- 1:40:28to just you know, cash out when you get something that works, then
- 1:40:34yeah, maybe you do need to hear this stuff. But somebody poking at
- 1:40:41fun, at at a group's entitlement and ego, I don't know, Like
- 1:40:46I haven't seen I I wouldn't tweet the same things that Pearly tweets because I'm
- 1:40:54much more I'm not really, I'm not really I think most of it pearl
- 1:40:57does, like just to just to like piss off, you know, I
- 1:41:00don't. I think that she probably has said some things that weren't great.
- 1:41:04I haven't looked at every post, but I'm fairly certain examthletes are always saying
- 1:41:10things like this, Like it's there's a difference between somebody who's trying to figure
- 1:41:13out how to push people's buttons and so they like say something you know,
- 1:41:16edgy or whatever, but they probably largely believe a lot of what they're saying.
- 1:41:21But then there are these people who literally are like being openly hostile to
- 1:41:26people that they consider their allies because they've dared to say, what about men?
- 1:41:31I think there's a difference. I don't think it's the same. So,
- 1:41:35okay, how are we going to go into this today? A little
- 1:41:38bit more? I mean, when do you want to stop? It's almost
- 1:41:40seven. We could get too so there is a section called toxic masculinity and
- 1:41:47that. So there is that, and I kind of wanted to get to
- 1:41:50it, but we might not. So if we don't, we could just
- 1:41:53do another one and do a part two because that that part's shorter. But
- 1:41:57you're swapped. This is pathetic, you know, fix his male loneliness jerking
- 1:42:00off as a man. I'll say this, sit down, shut up,
- 1:42:03and beat one out. You'll feel better. I feel well. The only
- 1:42:08men who belong are men who think that men don't deserve a right to anything.
- 1:42:13Yeah, and they just they just masturbate because that's fulfilling. That's fulfilling.
- 1:42:19Okay, all right, just beat one out, just go off,
- 1:42:24Just watch porn. Batman would be very disappointed in all of you. It's
- 1:42:28so funny how men feel entitled to a girlfriend no, you sexist freak when
- 1:42:31one side is like, wanting a girlfriend is sexist entitlement, and the other
- 1:42:35side is like, here's how to get a girlfriend? How do I don't
- 1:42:40know? Bro? What happened to mail is just kicking the bucket now.
- 1:42:43They just come on here and try to make their loneliness misery into some social
- 1:42:46justice issue. Oh my fucking god, that's dark. Yep. Why don't
- 1:42:51you just kill yourself? Bro? Hell? Why why aren't men like open
- 1:42:56to our message? Why don't you just kill yourself? Bro? Oh?
- 1:43:00Well they are, but the ones that are open to your message are no
- 1:43:02longer around to receive it. Yep, God damn, this is just ugly.
- 1:43:08Okay, what did she say to this? Uh? Not nothing yet.
- 1:43:12I think I just pause it right at the end of her reading the
- 1:43:15tweets, so let's see what she says. Oh, trust me, men
- 1:43:19are still kicking the bucket were They're not giving mind blowing advice like just to
- 1:43:24be a liberal. They're outright dismissing men's issues completely. It's not our job
- 1:43:28to educate them. Since men created the problem, they need to take steps
- 1:43:31to fix it. We have other things to care about. Men can figure
- 1:43:34out their own problems that they created. Again, Okay, what are these
- 1:43:40other things that you need to care about? Like do you honestly do you
- 1:43:44honestly think that? So we don't. We're just not going to care.
- 1:43:46What are these So these are communists? Like, well, they're left at
- 1:43:50least soviets, wouldn't they would say that we have to at least care about
- 1:43:56the proletariat, the male proletariat. Think really how it shook out though,
- 1:44:00But yeah, I really, I mean, I guess like if they're lying
- 1:44:05to us, but they're saying nice things, that's better than like the reality.
- 1:44:10But sure, okay, I don't understand, Like, how do you
- 1:44:16expect to do anything functional while ignoring half the human race, and not just
- 1:44:20half the human race, but the half the human race that is now at
- 1:44:24this moment primarily responsible for keeping your society running. They we're just going to
- 1:44:29ignore. This is definitely communist, you know, like, oh yeah,
- 1:44:32those people of that group over there that's mostly responsible for the labor that keeps
- 1:44:36society running, We don't have to carry care about them. Wow, very
- 1:44:42convenient, very communist. They're very socialist, very you know, labor Jesus
- 1:44:47Christ. Yeah, the people who labor. Well, you know, they
- 1:44:50just need to respect women more and hate themselves more. That that's that's yeah,
- 1:44:56that that stopped being about the working class a long time ago. And
- 1:45:00I mean, I don't think, how are you about, like, why
- 1:45:02are you guys about tearing everything down? Endless revolution? It's endless revolution.
- 1:45:08That's why they're constantly changing purse puppies, because as soon as you accomplish one
- 1:45:12goal, they have to come up with the next one. It's a spiral
- 1:45:15without end. It's it's intentional. It's supposed to tear down the entire society.
- 1:45:20It's the reason why I am more concerned with the left. It's the
- 1:45:24reason like they just they just they they're they're an un chained wild animal tearing
- 1:45:30through our society. And and yes a lot of people don't know what's happening
- 1:45:34because it's like around the corner down the street. But that's the problem.
- 1:45:40It's the problem. So I got some super chows and a super chat I
- 1:45:44want to read out really quick, or a couple of super chats. Actually,
- 1:45:47first we got a super chow from anonymous person and they said, for
- 1:45:51five dollars, how absolute would women become if men invented the artificial womb or
- 1:45:57obsolete, I think is what they meant to say. You can't replace all
- 1:46:00those traits from men you mentioned. I wonder what effect will AI work bots
- 1:46:02have on society and the relationship between men and women. AI is not going
- 1:46:06to be able to replace men in blue collar work anytime soon. Yeah,
- 1:46:13because of intelligence. The type of intelligence required is not the same as white
- 1:46:19collar like white collar bureaucratic is basically just a filing. I was messing around
- 1:46:25with AI today and I think it's really over hyped. So that's just well.
- 1:46:30The thing with the thing with is the is the intersection of abilities that
- 1:46:36that is required in blue collar work. You have to be physically capable of
- 1:46:42the work, and you also have to be able to be mechanically inclined and
- 1:46:45troubleshoot. And this is also instincts and these kind of things that that AI
- 1:46:53can't replicate, can't replicate YEA. So yes, AI is going to take
- 1:46:59over white collar work before blue collar work. Ye may not even be able
- 1:47:02to take over blue collar work because there's there is an intelligence that human beings
- 1:47:06that you have to have grown in a female body or not a female body
- 1:47:12a human body to have. There is a tactile haptic intelligence that you literally
- 1:47:17have to have grown and grown, not just have grown in a human body
- 1:47:24to have, and there's almost no we're nowhere near replicating that kind of an
- 1:47:30intelligence, So good luck to us. I don't think that AI is really
- 1:47:34as much of a threat except for people who can basically fall asleep on the
- 1:47:39job. Yeah, people who do busy work like that. I mean women
- 1:47:42are going to be the ones that lose jobs mostly. I think those currently
- 1:47:45jobs and that kind of administrative stuff AI will be able to do that.
- 1:47:49I think, yeah, okay, let's uh all right, so I got
- 1:47:53some super chats. Albatross gives us five dollars. Thank you, Albatross and
- 1:47:56says that's another thing. Intersectionality is a zero sum game. They think giving
- 1:48:00compassion to others means taking it away from women. Well, ultimately it does
- 1:48:03end up that way. Yes, Lurker nine thousand gave us fifty dollars.
- 1:48:10Thank you, lurker. Very nice. It wasn't a super child, but
- 1:48:16it's a big super Chad's fifty bucks, So thank you lurker. And he
- 1:48:20says, your attitude towards shoe is weird. She is who pushed the meat
- 1:48:25towards men rights years ago and has always been an ally. Her main criticism
- 1:48:29is the left doesn't want to help men, they just want to recruit them.
- 1:48:31Go to the end when she says it, no, I know,
- 1:48:33I said that. I watched this video already. The other thing is,
- 1:48:36I'm not attacking Shoe. I'm pointing out I never said anything bad about her,
- 1:48:42So I don't know why you're upset. And We've been doing this longer
- 1:48:44than Shoe has. I'm glad that you found us through her. Great,
- 1:48:48but the fact is we've been doing it longer, and when Shoe was really
- 1:48:53new to this, we had her on our show, and we had her
- 1:48:55on a couple of times, and you can like go back to what was
- 1:48:58there, like twenty fifteen. I don't think I think that I'm not quite
- 1:49:03sure where the weird attitude is coming from. I think that, like I
- 1:49:06said, anyone who's communists or socialist leaning has to deal with the fact that
- 1:49:12men will not be attracted to a system without a meritocracy. Yeah, okay,
- 1:49:15that's why men are doing the work like literally right now, right now,
- 1:49:20we have to contend with how to incentivize the men who are doing the
- 1:49:25work to keep our society running. You're not going to get away from appealing
- 1:49:30to them and making sure that they're willing to and voluntarily doing it. I
- 1:49:35can only imagine forcing men to do this work. It's gonna be atrociously top
- 1:49:41heavy and difficult. You have to do that. You don't, you can't
- 1:49:45get a well, you can't just be like, well, men, men's
- 1:49:47I mean, this is what they're doing. They're essentially saying, while men
- 1:49:50sucks, So we don't have to appeal to them. We can just imagine
- 1:49:55our unicorn farts in the sky. Well, that's you can't do that.
- 1:50:00If you want to have a society, whatever society you think you want,
- 1:50:03you are going to have to appeal to men's desire to work within a meritocracy.
- 1:50:10So whatever communism or socialism you have, it has to be compatible with
- 1:50:15that. Otherwise it's not going to work. Or you just join the group
- 1:50:17of people who's like, well, men's sucking. They don't. Their needs
- 1:50:21are irrelevant. Somehow we're going to construct a society that works without men when
- 1:50:28men are doing ninety five percent of the jobs that keep society running. Yeah,
- 1:50:31not gonna work. It's not going to happen for you. You have
- 1:50:33to face it, you have to deal with it. If you manage to
- 1:50:39make meritocracy work with communism, I want to see that black magic. I
- 1:50:44will find it fascinating. I don't, but I don't think that my intellect
- 1:50:50is the end all and be all of everything. So there you go,
- 1:50:55maybe you can make it work. Aside from that, I think we've been
- 1:50:58super positive about shoes contribution. I mean, I know where Shoe stands politically,
- 1:51:03and I disagree because I don't think it's workable. And I think that
- 1:51:06she, if she's like honest and like pursues everything to its logical ends,
- 1:51:12she'll figure it out. And if and if she but if she figures out
- 1:51:15something else, I'll be really impressed and surprised to see what that is.
- 1:51:18But I don't have a g I like Shoe still, I don't have a
- 1:51:21criticism, you know, at all, So don't don't sweat it. But
- 1:51:26thank you for the super chow or super chat. Sorry. Nonetheless, Hilaris
- 1:51:30fivty nine gives Is ten bucks and says feminism found a way to be worse
- 1:51:31than communism, well more effective because like you know, appealing to women instead
- 1:51:36of the workers is very effective. I don't know if you guys noticed,
- 1:51:41but you can define the tree. So I don't know how you can define
- 1:51:45this as communism anymore, because it's basically like, fuck the proletariat, Fuck
- 1:51:49the men who make the society run. Well, women are proletariat. That's
- 1:51:55that's what it is. I know it's stupid, doesn't make sense, but
- 1:51:58that's how it works, all right. Nova Fan gives us a rumble rand
- 1:52:01for one dollar and says feminists refused to solve feminist issues and tells men to
- 1:52:06educate themselves while demanding men fix it for women. Men continue to not serve
- 1:52:12feminist feminist surprise, Pikachu face, Yeah, yeah, of course, so,
- 1:52:17but thank you for all of your support. We're gonna do a little
- 1:52:20bit more and we'll maybe we'll come back to this like the rest of this
- 1:52:26later. Women's jobs to change how men are socialized. It's a man issue
- 1:52:30and y'all need to address that amongst Wait wait wait, wait wait wait,
- 1:52:32can I do it? Like? Can I take responsibility for socializing men?
- 1:52:38And uh? And then and then what I will do is I'll make them
- 1:52:42create or I'll compel them through this socialization to create Allison Land, and you
- 1:52:46guys can do whatever the fuck you want with with whatever's left over. I'm
- 1:52:51just I'm I'm being facetious. Yeah, I know, I thought, I
- 1:52:55know, I'll take that. I'll take that, like you know, So
- 1:52:59what you're saying is you don't you aren't responsible for explaining to men how to
- 1:53:02be pro social within a meritocracy that builds a working society. You see what
- 1:53:09I'm I know that's really abstract, but like how to incentivize men to work
- 1:53:15in order to build your society. You don't want to do that. So
- 1:53:18that ninety five percent of all human labor, that that that manufacturer society,
- 1:53:23you don't want to have anything to do with that, socializing it, making
- 1:53:27it work for your particular endeavor. Because that's really what she's saying. I'm
- 1:53:31not responsible for directing men's labor towards my endeavors. Well, okay, you're
- 1:53:38not responsible for that. You're not gonna do it, Well somebody else might
- 1:53:43do it. Yeah, Well, I mean towards your endeavor that that's been
- 1:53:48working on this for a while. So I got another super chat from Lurker
- 1:53:53nine thousand for another five bucks, Thank you, lurker, and he says,
- 1:53:57lull. Sorry if I came off like a simp, I guess I'm
- 1:54:00defensive because she's who red pilled me when I was still a teen. Good
- 1:54:01work as always, guys, no problem, I'm not mad. Uh,
- 1:54:04It's okay. And look, I get it. Like I said, if
- 1:54:08I thought she was being treated unfairly, and I do, I do think
- 1:54:11that. You know, if she puts her neck out there and says can
- 1:54:14we talk about men and gets attacked by a bunch of commies online, I
- 1:54:17will come to her defense because it doesn't matter to me. Like you know,
- 1:54:20I only care about what's right and wrong. I don't care about sides
- 1:54:25or whatever. So I think that if she's gonna do that, then she's
- 1:54:29doing the right thing. I just don't know how that's gonna work out with
- 1:54:33the people that she travels, like in her circles. I'll put it that.
- 1:54:36Well, she minga be an old school commie. She's like, yeah,
- 1:54:40labor and there and the news school in a way, in a way,
- 1:54:43yes, but like anyway, let's keep going. Men created their own
- 1:54:47problems, Men can solve their own problems. The left is busy. Why
- 1:54:51does the well being of other people concern me? What the left is busy,
- 1:54:57Like, all men want is to understand how they can serve society in
- 1:55:02a way that allows them to express their desire to work hard and become better.
- 1:55:10Okay, that's all they really want. They just want people to be
- 1:55:13like, yeah, you know what, you can build that shed for me.
- 1:55:15I'll be really appreciative and make you some lemonade in a in a I
- 1:55:18don't know, a banana cake. All right, that's what they want.
- 1:55:23But the left is too busy because you know, the ninety five percent of
- 1:55:28labor that's actually responsible for for for for basically making our society work, that's
- 1:55:35not the left business. That's irrelevant to the left. That's like, yeah,
- 1:55:41no, that's and you don't even want to do the work. I
- 1:55:44don't even want to enact the labor of explaining to you what I want you
- 1:55:47to do. Okay, that's not completely etty. That's like it's like,
- 1:55:56are you that dumb? Are you that freaking dumb that you're just going to
- 1:56:00be like no, no, I don't want to do that work. You
- 1:56:03know, men have been outed as a group that just represents everything wrong with
- 1:56:11the world for as long before we were born. So, you know,
- 1:56:15the people who they're just that we just don't see men suffering. It's just
- 1:56:18what they don't even see. It's not even the issue of men's suffering.
- 1:56:21Let's not look at this in terms of men's suffering. Men are responsible as
- 1:56:26a group for the majority of the labor that keeps society running. And the
- 1:56:30left is saying this is irrelevant to Yeah, but they don't think they think
- 1:56:34that all this just happens, or that women could just do it. Let's
- 1:56:39just get like electrician Barbie up there. Yeah, but but here's the problem
- 1:56:42with that. You're talking about the rad fem position. Here's the problem.
- 1:56:46Women are doing it now, the radical and I think that's just the feminist
- 1:56:49position. Okay, the feminist position. In fact, I think that's the
- 1:56:53norm. Women are not doing those jobs. No, they're not. Women
- 1:56:57are not Women are not doing those jobs now with the current incentive structures because
- 1:57:01they do not want to. So what kind of incentive structure do you have
- 1:57:06to apply to women to force them to do these jobs if they don't want
- 1:57:11to do it, that you can make plenty of money. They don't want
- 1:57:14to do it. They don't want it. It's low prestige, it's uncomfortable,
- 1:57:17it's risky, it's gross, it's smelly. They don't want these jobs.
- 1:57:23How are you going to force women to do these jobs? Right now,
- 1:57:26men volunteering to do these jobs with the incentive structure they have are sparing
- 1:57:32women from doing jobs they one hundred percent do not want to do. Now,
- 1:57:38you could probably make a woman do it with a gunder or head,
- 1:57:42but you can't make a woman do it with money, because a woman will
- 1:57:46take a job with no money. Many women will take a job with no
- 1:57:49money that has prestige. They don't want these jobs because they're not considered prestigious,
- 1:57:55all right, they're not. They're not brain surgeon, Barbie, or
- 1:58:01they're well, women don't really want to do brain surgeon because it's pretty risky
- 1:58:05and very high consequence. But it's not lawyer Barbie, it's not nonprofit board
- 1:58:12member Barbie, right right, it's not their influencer Barbie. You know,
- 1:58:15it's it's so they don't want to do it, and we don't yet have
- 1:58:19an incentive structure to make women do that. Money isn't working, you know,
- 1:58:25wanting a husband that can't be like, what are you gonna do?
- 1:58:29How are you going to compel women to take these jobs if they're already not
- 1:58:32taking them willingly? Is what I'm getting at. Yeah, okay, I
- 1:58:36don't know. Let's let's finish this off. Leftist by the way, it's
- 1:58:41all systemic issues and societal factors and blah blah blah until it's a man and
- 1:58:45then suddenly it's pull yourselves up by your bootstraps. This problem is just a
- 1:58:49consequence of the patriarchy. Now take a wild guess about which gender created the
- 1:58:54patriarchy? All right, now, I just I'm gonna this is This is
- 1:58:58really useful because I have to say, as a side note, maybe we
- 1:59:02should just come like I want to wrap it up, so because this is
- 1:59:06the two hours, but I do want to like close on some thoughts and
- 1:59:09then we can come back to the rest of this later. So I did.
- 1:59:14So the Barbie movie came out. This is all related. Okay.
- 1:59:16The Barbie movie is a feminist movie. And even though people have tried to
- 1:59:21have like crazy you know, nine hundred IQ takes on it, ultimately it
- 1:59:27just comes down to what normy women and normy men walk away from and that
- 1:59:30was the the feminism and the overt sort of like women are victims narrative,
- 1:59:35right, that's what most people walked away. I don't know why people think
- 1:59:39that the normal, the average person is super intelligent and can like read between
- 1:59:43all kinds of lines and get like some kind of like you know, nine
- 1:59:46dimensional fucking monopoly result. But that's just not the way it is, you
- 1:59:51know. It's like Mike Doctor Randomercam when I did the New Show with him
- 1:59:55yesterday, he said that, you know, if you don't think that the
- 1:59:59women that are on like the whatever podcast represent the average you know, zoomer
- 2:00:02woman, then you are sadly mistaken. And that's right. I mean,
- 2:00:06women have no there's no force to sort of like push them to be anything
- 2:00:14else other than that. So why wouldn't they just take that away? And
- 2:00:17the reason why I say that is because there have been articles written about the
- 2:00:20movie from like these like you know, crazy stupid rags about film that say,
- 2:00:29oh, men are really upset about the Barbie movie because they think it's
- 2:00:32it's hating on men, But it's not about that. And I read this
- 2:00:35article about that in the After Show yesterday, which you guys, if you're
- 2:00:39members, you can go watch it. You know, if you didn't see
- 2:00:41it, it's it's only available to members though, so five bucks a month
- 2:00:44at feedebat dot com. And in it they said it's not an attack on
- 2:00:47men, it's an attack and a critique of the patriarchy, because this is
- 2:00:50how patriarchy hurts men. And I was like, but patriarchy is men.
- 2:00:55And here is a comi feminist saying that very thing, this problem is just
- 2:01:00a consequence of the patriarchy. Now take a wild guess about which gender created
- 2:01:02the patriarchy. See, so it's patriarchy is blaming men. Don't let these
- 2:01:08people tell you it's not men, it's patriarchy, because they are telling you
- 2:01:12that patriarchy is men, so that you know, don't don't They try to
- 2:01:17they try to offload it onto the system. But whenever they want to blame
- 2:01:20men, they're right back to saying, oh, patriarchy is because of men,
- 2:01:24Yes, yes it's And this is the thing, like most of these
- 2:01:27people, they don't actually understand the way the world works. They're just really
- 2:01:30good at rhetoric. And they think that if they could use like they can
- 2:01:33cast spells with words, that it just changes reality. This is like,
- 2:01:38this is straight up sorcery. This is witchcraft. They're just saying patriarchy and
- 2:01:42that's supposed to like change reality. But the truth is it's that that's the
- 2:01:45reality is reality, and that doesn't that doesn't work. So you have to
- 2:01:49call you have to call them to the pavement and say, no, you
- 2:01:53are attacking men. You're attacking the male identity. You're attacking a system that
- 2:01:58men and women voluntarily came together to do. It's not even men, it's
- 2:02:02men and women in cooperation. So okay, anyway, and you're also basically
- 2:02:10saying, yeah, that ninety five percent of labor that keeps society running,
- 2:02:14it's it's women that are going to be replaced by AI because a lot of
- 2:02:17women's jobs can be done, can be automated, but men's jobs cannot be
- 2:02:23automated. All right, So there we are here, we are at the
- 2:02:27precipice. Eighty percent of women's jobs can be automated. Men's jobs cannot be
- 2:02:31automated. So men are one almost one hundred percent responsible for the future.
- 2:02:38And you leftist like, yeah, directing men from directing men's labor, that's
- 2:02:44not our problem. Her pep. Okay, that's you know what, Ryan,
- 2:02:47I'm okay with that, you know why, because I would actually,
- 2:02:53I actually prefer leftists saying that's not our problem to actually actually figuring out well,
- 2:03:00trying to actually realizing what they're walking away from. M like, they're
- 2:03:08walking away from getting creating a system in which men feel like they're contributing to
- 2:03:15a society. They're they're walking away from the very thing that could get anything
- 2:03:20that they want done. They're like, I don't want I don't want to
- 2:03:26have anything to do with the magic lamp. That's that's about the genie archy.
- 2:03:31I don't want wishes. What are you talking about? That's that's genie
- 2:03:36genie privilege. It's like, yeah, okay, you walk away from you
- 2:03:41walk away from the magic lamp, that lamp that grants wishes. You pretend
- 2:03:45that you know, rubbing the lamp and actually telling the genie what to do
- 2:03:48is such an onerous task that you can't even be bothered, because God forbid,
- 2:03:55what the hell would you wish for if you realized what you were walking
- 2:03:59away from. That's what I'm saying, Brian, I'm glad that this is
- 2:04:02so self defeating. M let's see, all right, So I got a
- 2:04:10super chow. I'm gonna move. I think we're gonna stop here because I
- 2:04:13think we've gotten far enough and I'd like to do the rest of it.
- 2:04:15But I don't want this show to go too long because I nobody will watch
- 2:04:17it. So I do have a super chow. I think it's just one,
- 2:04:23but it's a big one from Zaranks. Thank you Zaranks so much for
- 2:04:27that. And he says he gets us five and then ten, So I
- 2:04:32guess he donated to your undraiser or something. No, no, it's two.
- 2:04:36It's two super chows. Oh, it's two super chose and says,
- 2:04:39thank you Errings. Regarding the earlier question about the artificial wounds someone sent in,
- 2:04:43I suspect that there will be an initial demand and acceptance similar to the
- 2:04:45birth control pill. The result will be worse than what was felt by the
- 2:04:49primary adopters and users of the pill, and long lasting enough to be nigh
- 2:04:54permanent and dark. A market will be established similar to only Fools. Women
- 2:04:58will sell their eggs for profit. Time only women with the best jeans will
- 2:05:00be able to sell their eggs. A dark idea will involve earliest harvestable eggs
- 2:05:06from youngest females. Eventually, the market will be saturated and women will realize
- 2:05:11there are priced out of dating and marriage, leaving prostitution as the only worthwhile
- 2:05:15market. Another dark idea, as women produced through the artificial womb may be
- 2:05:18sold off as brides. It sounds like fiction and it sounds bad, but
- 2:05:21something similar to this already supposedly occurs in China, and Yon Me Park said
- 2:05:27she lived a similar life because of China's lack of women for men looking for
- 2:05:31wives, and this is without the artificial womb. Sorry about the length of
- 2:05:34this, No problem, Yeah, I think that you're touching on something that
- 2:05:39I would like to expand on. And Shoe does mention this, so I'm
- 2:05:44not taking this from her, but I've said this myself. Go ahead,
- 2:05:46Alison, and I had a thought about creating a science fiction story that would
- 2:05:51explore the feminist dystopia of the idea of women being produced from artificial whims or
- 2:05:58like bio robots, And what I was thinking of the twist would be would
- 2:06:01be that these bio robots eventually got their rights and they're basically the basically they
- 2:06:08are able to work and vote and everything, and the only difference is they
- 2:06:12actually have gratitude because you know, the men gave them the rights that they
- 2:06:15asked for when it was reasonable for them to get them, and then they
- 2:06:20were just grateful because the alternative was what would happen to the male biorroids,
- 2:06:28which is that, you know, women had the ability to have their own
- 2:06:30male biroroids, but they just never wanted to support them through the process of
- 2:06:34becoming real, so they were just thrown in the dump and so the whole
- 2:06:41the So what it would be is the feminist is a woman from our age
- 2:06:45is cryagenically frozen and then wakes up in the dystopia of the female biroroid and
- 2:06:49she's like, you kid, Okay. So she finds out about all of
- 2:06:53this, and the bioids are like, no, we were able to decide
- 2:06:55our own lives now and were able to have jobs and vote and everything.
- 2:06:59The only real differences that were grateful And then she's like, you can't love
- 2:07:02man, yeah, And then they put her back in the fucking chamber and
- 2:07:06let her live her life and on Instagram and TikTok in some kind of like
- 2:07:12matrix simulate simulate simulation I'm a scream, but you can. Would you imagine
- 2:07:17it's just like, would it really be that dark, because honestly, I
- 2:07:21think you could get I don't know, I don't know. Think about it.
- 2:07:25If if biroroids were in any way station, if these female byroids were
- 2:07:29in any way station, they would just be given rights eventually, like as
- 2:07:34you know, maybe they'd have to wait until the bureaucracy caught up, and
- 2:07:39maybe they'd have to prove that they weren't a danger, but they'd eventually begin
- 2:07:43rights. They'd eventually basically occupy the same situation as women, except maybe they'd
- 2:07:48be grateful. And that's it. Boy, boy, that's a horrible oppression,
- 2:07:54isn't it just a simple amount of gratitude anyway, So it would be
- 2:08:00that it wouldn't be a dystopia. So I had a guess on two weeks
- 2:08:07ago. I think the name is ten ten Men, and he is a
- 2:08:11left wing MRA, and I brought him on because people were asking I think
- 2:08:16I think he asked or something. I don't know, but I brought him
- 2:08:18on and we had to talk, and he saw all of the issues,
- 2:08:22didn't have a problem with that. He understood them. But then I started
- 2:08:26asking him tougher questions because I think that I think that there is a problem
- 2:08:31with advocating for men while believing in these kinds of like systemic problems that need
- 2:08:39systemic solutions that are top down and involve the state. And so I asked
- 2:08:45him because the thing is is that as much as like the left cares about
- 2:08:50equality, they really don't. They just invert hierarchies. In fact, they
- 2:08:54invert everything. They invert every hierarchy that they observe. They see is oppression
- 2:08:58and they try to reverse it as a way of mitigating it. And I'm
- 2:09:03being very charitable, Okay, I want of you guys to really understand that
- 2:09:05I'm not trying to straw man. I used to be on the left.
- 2:09:09I understand where they're coming from. So I asked him. We did it
- 2:09:13a patron show. We talked about the Black Lives Matter protests. I don't
- 2:09:18remember how we got on the subject and how it was, and I was
- 2:09:22talking about, like I said, you know, because he thought at the
- 2:09:24time that this was you know, warranted, because you know, the males
- 2:09:31intersect with black people, and so that makes it worse for men because they're
- 2:09:35black. And they're male, blah blah blah. And I said, but
- 2:09:39if it's true that Floyd died of overdrows and he said, oh, he
- 2:09:43died of overdose, of overdose of knee on his neck. I was like,
- 2:09:46no, no, no, the autopsy show that he died of a
- 2:09:50fentinel overdose. We know the fentyls a big problem in the United States.
- 2:09:52He was in the UK, so he might not have known a lot of
- 2:09:56like hundreds of thousand of people die from overdoses or become addicted every year.
- 2:10:00It's not a small thing. It's not odd, you know. And and
- 2:10:03also I said, George Floyd was indeed a man, but Derek Chauvin who
- 2:10:07was sent to prison even though he had worked in that community for ten years,
- 2:10:11even though he was married to a minority woman, even though he like
- 2:10:15everybody knew him, even though he was coming to that The whole situation started
- 2:10:18because another minority man who owned a business called him because he was given a
- 2:10:24you know, a counterfeit bill or whatever. Even though all that is true,
- 2:10:28this man went to jail because the jury decided he was guilty of racism.
- 2:10:33So they put him in prison without sufficient evidence because they was a slanted
- 2:10:37jury. That's just the truth. I'm sorry, it's the truth. So
- 2:10:39I'm like, well, you want to advocate for some men under some circumstances,
- 2:10:45but not other men other circumstances. And I'm of the opinion that what
- 2:10:50is the best way is to look at the big picture, right and say,
- 2:10:54this man should not have been should not have gone to jail because he
- 2:10:58did not do anything wrong. This man who died did not have to die
- 2:11:03because but his upbringing, because he didn't have a mother in his life or
- 2:11:07father in his life rather, and he was abused as a child. And
- 2:11:09this is this is the case for most violent offenders, is that they don't
- 2:11:13have a you know, connection to the dads. And you have to like
- 2:11:16look at it from that big picture. How did he end up in this
- 2:11:18position? You're but this guy wanted to address things as they happen right there,
- 2:11:24because he has to see it in terms of a hierarchy, a reversed
- 2:11:28one. Right. But so you you you can't, in my opinion,
- 2:11:31if you really want to advocate for men, you have to advocate for all
- 2:11:35men. You don't put like it in an order like Muslim men first and
- 2:11:39then black men and then Latino men. Know you have to advocate for all
- 2:11:43men, regardless whether they're gay or stray or trans or sis or whatever.
- 2:11:46Right, and so it doesn't work. That it does not work, and
- 2:11:50that and that's kind of like the the issue I keep running into because you
- 2:11:56end up creating a hierarchy because you want to look at the world in terms
- 2:12:00of oppressors and the oppressed, and it doesn't work. Men. This is
- 2:12:05the thing I'm getting at. Two men in general don't find this attractive as
- 2:12:11a model to live under. And the reason why I think men I made
- 2:12:16a post on my Twitter if you guys want to follow me at Badger Arcade.
- 2:12:20The Twitter post is I said, how does the left deal with the
- 2:12:24rise in loneliness and men? I think one of the answers to this problem
- 2:12:28will upset you. But men need a higher calling than just the material.
- 2:12:33They need a purpose beyond the material. And so the problem is is that
- 2:12:37we have become an extremely materialistic world. And not when I say materialists,
- 2:12:43I don't mean capitalists, because that's different, and I know a lot of
- 2:12:46people conflate those things. I mean where the things that you acquire stuff is
- 2:12:50more important than things like having a purpose or a higher calling, or a
- 2:12:56legacy or something right, something beyond yourself. That's what men want. That's
- 2:13:01why they're attracted to stories of you know, heroes, right, not not
- 2:13:05because of you know, like fighting the bad guy. Why nationalities are women,
- 2:13:15Yes, but it's it's about men want a higher calling. They want
- 2:13:18to prove their ability to cooperate, to build a better society, to build
- 2:13:24out the garden, as it were, gaining merit to gay, yeah,
- 2:13:28to achieve in whatever way. All of that's masculine. I'm not talking about
- 2:13:31the gym. I mean, like whatever intellectual pursuits, philosophical ones, it
- 2:13:35doesn't matter, artistic, it doesn't matter. But that's what they want.
- 2:13:37So the problem is is that we live and this is actually bad for women
- 2:13:41too. So I'm not because women have also become ultra materialistic and there's nothing
- 2:13:46else right, So like if it's all about I gotta have the new phone,
- 2:13:50I gotta have the new gizmo, I gotta whatever, right, And
- 2:13:54and that's how come men are going towards what the new AI girlfriends and the
- 2:13:58only fans. It's all about immediate gratification in the material Men need something more.
- 2:14:05They need a higher calling. I'm not necessarily saying they have to go
- 2:14:09to religion, but there it's got to be something else, something transcendent,
- 2:14:15beyond the material, and men are not not only do they not know that's
- 2:14:18there, or they're not encouraged to pursue it because that would be meritocracy,
- 2:14:24which is, you know, oppression basically, but it's also not good for
- 2:14:28women either. This is why twenty five percent of all landfills are basically women's
- 2:14:33clothing that have been thrown out. So it's it is a problem of the
- 2:14:39human condition that we need to address. And leftism is built and rooted in
- 2:14:45materialism. That's why it's all about stuff. And I'll get to that because
- 2:14:48that's also in this video where you can see people saying, you know,
- 2:14:52men have more stuff, therefore men are oppressors. So you you this is
- 2:14:56the thing that I think that is missing. Men need that. Now.
- 2:15:01I think that where they get the most of that is building a space where
- 2:15:09first of all, they build a kind of like camaraderie or something of value
- 2:15:15with other men. And that thing of value has to be of value to
- 2:15:18women and children and families and other men as well. So that's what they
- 2:15:24need. And the problem with feminism again is that they don't consider things like
- 2:15:31family or fatherhood especially to be of any real importance. So men are pushed
- 2:15:37out of that and so this is and that perpetuates more of that because if
- 2:15:41you're a man that grows up without a father, you don't know what being
- 2:15:46a father is, so you're more likely to do the same thing. And
- 2:15:48then the cycle continues. But men need something more, they need more.
- 2:15:54And I say that as someone who originally did want kids, and then in
- 2:16:00twenty seventeen I got cancer and now I can't have kids, and so maybe
- 2:16:05it's sour grapes. I don't know, but I wish I had known then
- 2:16:09what I knew now, because I would have probably made it a priority.
- 2:16:11And the problem is is that it's not. And I know that people would
- 2:16:15say, well, you know, kids aren't for everybody, blah blah blah.
- 2:16:18I get that. And generally ten percent of people don't want children,
- 2:16:22and it's always been that number and it's still that number, but it's yeah,
- 2:16:26five I'm sorry, five percent don't want children, and five percent can't
- 2:16:31have children, like there's some some medical problem with them, right, but
- 2:16:35the overwhelming majority of people do. Unfortunately, though a large number of them
- 2:16:41aren't because they're putting off family for other things like career and making money,
- 2:16:48which goes back to the materialism thing. This is the problem with the world.
- 2:16:50We have put material goods or achievements before everything else, and people are
- 2:16:58losing their way. And I think that is that's and to me, that's
- 2:17:03not even a gender issue. But we will find opposition from people who just
- 2:17:07you know, like, what what do what do the commies want? Let's
- 2:17:11say that we we we pursue their ultimate goal. Okay, so they would
- 2:17:16want a world where no one has to work right, the machines will do
- 2:17:18everything. I remember the guy who made the movie Zeitgeist. He I watched
- 2:17:24it and at the time I was like really into it, but when I
- 2:17:26reflect on it, he was talking about how technology is going to get so
- 2:17:30advanced that robots are gonna do everything right, and what is the ultimate goal
- 2:17:33of that, Well, humans won't have to do anything, so it essentially
- 2:17:35will become the Wall e future. But the thing is that's that's gonna be
- 2:17:39that's gonna destroy men's souls, because if men don't have something to do something
- 2:17:45to do that like contributes that they can say I did this, and it
- 2:17:48doesn't necessarily have to be with their hands, but you know, in many
- 2:17:50cases it will be there that is going to kill their their very purpose.
- 2:17:56And the thing is we're not We're not allowing men to have that purpose or
- 2:18:00even have as an option. So I think this, this pursuit is anti
- 2:18:05mail from the root. It's anti mail from the beginning because it ignores what
- 2:18:11it is that men need to be to feel, you know, like their
- 2:18:16like their existence matters. It will need lead to or already has led to
- 2:18:22nihilism. So those are just like, that's just why I don't think this
- 2:18:26is compatible. And I think that's the rate that we're going in terms of
- 2:18:31family formation and stuff. It's like the population implosion is like it's like a
- 2:18:35generation away and we're and and everything that these people want, like the welfare
- 2:18:41state and all of that that's gone, Like that's not because there won't be
- 2:18:43anybody to take it from because there's no people being born or not enough.
- 2:18:48And yeah, we get what we get because we're we're basically selling our children's
- 2:18:52future. And then twenty percent of the people that are born are going to
- 2:18:54transition, so they're gonna be castrated. So yeah, it's like something changes
- 2:19:01really fast. And then the high numbers that's just gonna be the Amish left
- 2:19:05because they're still having kids. I'm just gonna say it, like they're they're
- 2:19:09doing arranged marriages. Everybody's happy, they're healthy, they're thin, they grow
- 2:19:11their own food, they raise their own cattle or whatever they're doing, they're
- 2:19:16gonna be fine. They're gonna inherit everything. So that those are those are
- 2:19:20my thoughts. Yeah, well, like I said, it just comes down
- 2:19:24to it. Communism isn't gonna get anywhere unless it can incorporate some kind of
- 2:19:26meritocracy, which is that idea of having something outside of yourself that you strive
- 2:19:33for and uh yeah, like not everybody's going to be happy with just shit
- 2:19:39stuff where and where is it going to come from in the end of the
- 2:19:41day, Like if everybody's on UBI, then well that means that you're taking
- 2:19:46money. That like it's not just that you're you're getting money. If you
- 2:19:52get money and you're not putting anything into the pool of services and goods,
- 2:19:58then everybody is that much poorer for the money that you've got gotten So if
- 2:20:03you have money from generation is not yet born of which, yeah, but
- 2:20:07that's the only way it works, is a is a Ponzi scheme when what
- 2:20:11you're stealing from your grandchildren. But let's think about it. The only way
- 2:20:16that it works is that the only way you get money is by putting service
- 2:20:20and product into the system. Okay, And that's how it works, and
- 2:20:26I know it. It has a situation where people, some people lose out,
- 2:20:31a lot of men lose out. And I can see why the left
- 2:20:33says, well, you know, you're you're just accepting the idea that men
- 2:20:37lose out. Well, we can still engage in private charity and encourage people
- 2:20:41to engage in private charity for men who are left out. We can also
- 2:20:46you know, like well encourage private charity. We can also encourage us as
- 2:20:52a as a society not to constantly put men under this kind of miasthma,
- 2:21:00this negative miasthma. By there they're the oppressors, you know, so people
- 2:21:05will be more encouraged to help them when they have problems. So it's like,
- 2:21:11yeah, it's not a perfect system, but ultimately it doesn't mean selling
- 2:21:16your your grandchildren's future, especially when you don't have grandchildren to sell, because
- 2:21:22that's what we're doing now. That's what all of these deficits are. They're
- 2:21:26basically saying, yeah, I'm writing a check. Well, who who?
- 2:21:30Who's who? I'm I'm I'm signing my grandkid's name to that check, because
- 2:21:35you cash it for me, charge it to them. That's what we're doing
- 2:21:37right now. And the answer isn't doing more of that? Okay? All
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