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“MOSCOW MULE” Mom Poisons Hubby, Writes “Script” of Lies for Witnesses? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grease, a young mom seemingly devastated
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Speaker 1: when her husband dies of what appears to be a
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Speaker 1: fentanyl overdose. Moved so deeply by her grief, she actually
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Speaker 1: writes a children's book to deal with mourning and grieving.
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Speaker 1: That would be so heartbreaking and touching if I didn't
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Speaker 1: know she's charged with his murder. Yes, I'm talking about
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Speaker 1: Corey Richins again now, believe it or not, after authorities
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Speaker 1: allege that she poisons her husband dead, the father of
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Speaker 1: her children, by giving him a mother Scout mule layced
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Speaker 1: with a huge od of fentanyl. Now, according to reports,
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Speaker 1: what is found in her room the written script. She's
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Speaker 1: trying to cram down the throats of family to paint
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Speaker 1: her as innocent.
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Speaker 2: Ouch.
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Speaker 1: That's terrible when the cops ransack yourself and they find
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Speaker 1: you tampering with witnesses, and I hate when that happens.
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Speaker 1: I mean, see, Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you
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Speaker 1: for being with us here at Crime Stories and on
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Speaker 1: Serious sexem one eleven. I just want you to hear
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Speaker 1: Corey Richardson. I don't get it. She's a sex successful realtor.
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Speaker 1: She flips these mega mansions and makes all kinds of money.
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Speaker 1: She's got a husband who's not cheating, working, supporting the family,
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Speaker 1: beautiful children, beautiful home. Why this but I want you
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Speaker 1: to hear it from the horse's mouth. Take a Listen
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Speaker 1: to Corey Richins describing why she wrote a kid's book.
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Speaker 1: Listen to Crime Online. I'm new to all of this.
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Speaker 3: Corey Richins appeared on Good Things Utah, a lifestyle TV program,
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Speaker 3: to talk about her book on grief. She says she's
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Speaker 3: done lots of research to help not only herself but
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Speaker 3: her children cope with the loss of Eric Richins, husband
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Speaker 3: and father. Richard says what has helped her family are
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Speaker 3: the three seeds.
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Speaker 4: The three seeds, you know, connection, continuity, and care.
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Speaker 3: Richin says, it's important to make sure the spirit of
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Speaker 3: your lost loved one is alive in your home by
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Speaker 3: bringing up memories, talking about the person, and doing things
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Speaker 3: that person loved to do.
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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well, her husband, her dad, husband's memory is
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Speaker 1: going to be coming up a lot in her murder trial.
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Speaker 1: But what about this script that has been found in
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Speaker 1: her cell? And wait a minute before I go any further.
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Speaker 1: Elaine Ardivius is with US senior crime reporter with the messenger.
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Speaker 1: Isn't it true that the woman has just come forward?
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Speaker 1: I believe she worked for the family, a housekeeper who
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Speaker 1: sold the Moscow Mule Mom Corey Richins, who allegedly sold
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Speaker 1: her the fentnel she used to poison her husband. Hasn't
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Speaker 1: that just happened?
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Speaker 5: Yes, they do have texts between Corey and the housekeeper
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Speaker 5: where Corey is requesting sentinel or she's requesting the heavy
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Speaker 5: drugs more of And so that has come out that
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Speaker 5: the housekeeper basically was dropping off drugs at various locations
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Speaker 5: allegedly for Corey.
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Speaker 1: That housekeeper's future testimony does not jive with the story
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Speaker 1: that this great stricken mom is a grief book to
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Speaker 1: help her children to keep the husband's memory alive. You
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Speaker 1: know what, she can say it better than me. Let's
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Speaker 1: listen to more of Corey Richards from Crime Online.
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Speaker 3: Richings appearing on Good Things You Tam said, it's important
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Speaker 3: to explain to children that just because a parent, in
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Speaker 3: Richard's case, the father isn't present physically, that doesn't mean
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Speaker 3: their presence isn't with the children.
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Speaker 4: He's doing these things with us, and he's you know,
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Speaker 4: here for birthdays, and he's here for Christmas.
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Speaker 3: Richards says, Now it's just comforting for her children to
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Speaker 3: know they're not living this life alone.
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Speaker 4: Dad is still here, it's just in a different way.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, murdered according to prosecutors. I'm about to jump into
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Speaker 1: the ransacking of Corey Richard's cell and finding the script,
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Speaker 1: but I just want you to hear more of Corey
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Speaker 1: Richards speaking out about how much she wanted to console
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Speaker 1: her grieving little children. And just so you know those children,
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Speaker 1: three little boys at the Tom Carter nine, Ashton seven,
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Speaker 1: and Western five. You know, it would have really helped
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Speaker 1: them in life if they still had their dad alive. Okay,
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Speaker 1: but no, that's not going to happen. That said more
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Speaker 1: again from the horse's mouth. Listen our friends crime alone.
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Speaker 3: Richard says, it's the family traditions that are hard for children,
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Speaker 3: such as the parent typically with the child on the
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Speaker 3: first day of school, helping the child cope with what
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Speaker 3: they're facing. She said in her appearance on Good Things
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Speaker 3: You Taught that acknowledging those types of things not only
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Speaker 3: gives her peace, but the children as well.
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Speaker 4: It's been a lot of peace for my kids, you know,
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Speaker 4: to really remember that in the back of their head,
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Speaker 4: that they're never alone.
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Speaker 1: My rear end, doctor Bethany Marshall joining me renown psycho
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Speaker 1: analyst joining us out of la At, doctor Bethany Marshall
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Speaker 1: dot com. Never alone. According to police, she's the reason
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Speaker 1: that they are alone.
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Speaker 6: You know, Nancy sociopaths like her, They do evil things
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Speaker 6: and they try to undo them. They do and they undo.
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Speaker 6: So she kills their father and then she tries to
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Speaker 6: undo it by saying, oh, it's okay, He's always with you. Also,
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Speaker 6: this woman tries to monetize every thing. You know, She's
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Speaker 6: always trying to make a buck, always trying to get
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Speaker 6: more money. I think that's one of the motivations for
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Speaker 6: killing her husband. Get it out of the way so
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Speaker 6: she can make more money. I think the children's book
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Speaker 6: is just another way to monetize his death.
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Speaker 1: And you know what, I want to pick up what
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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall just said about the money. Elaine o
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Speaker 1: Avias is with US Senior Investigative Crime Report with the Messenger. Elaine,
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Speaker 1: I'm about to jump into the manuscript, as they are
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Speaker 1: euphemistically calling it sees from her jail sale. But there
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Speaker 1: is so much money motive they had a prenup, but
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Speaker 1: she didn't like the prenup. He had a very very
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Speaker 1: successful business that he built up from scratch. Then there
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Speaker 1: was the issue a flipping this mega mansion. She wanted
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Speaker 1: to buy this mega mansion and then flip it. He
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Speaker 1: opposed it, and then he dies and within seven days
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Speaker 1: or so, she flips the mansion and then throws a
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Speaker 1: big party, a boozed up party, to celebrate the flip
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Speaker 1: with her husband cold in the grave.
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Speaker 5: That's right, she repeatedly is acquiring money. In fact, when
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Speaker 5: her husband died, the sister of the husband went to
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Speaker 5: the house and Corey was already taking things out of
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Speaker 5: the safe. There are things missing that cannot be accounted
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Speaker 5: for that's considered valuable and assets. So over and over
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Speaker 5: there is a pattern of her trying to get more money.
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Speaker 1: You know. Donna Chilly is joining me. Former Utah Senior
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Speaker 1: Deputy District Attorney, lawyer for Crime Victims Legal Clinic. She
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Speaker 1: also helped form the Utah County Sex Crimes Task Force.
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Speaker 1: Donna Kelly, I know that after my fiancee was murdered
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Speaker 1: shortly before our wedding, he was on baseball scholarship and
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Speaker 1: I wanted one thing I wanted his baseball that he
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Speaker 1: and I would practice with throw pitch back and forth.
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Speaker 1: And I still have it. I see it every morning.
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Speaker 1: I'm just curious about your reaction to immediately immediately after
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Speaker 1: her husband's death, she is in the safe getting out
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Speaker 1: whatever assets she can find.
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Speaker 7: It's very disturbing, Nancy. It is very disturbing, and she
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Speaker 7: had an ongoing dispute, and her husband had an inkling
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Speaker 7: that this was happening and made changes in his will
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Speaker 7: to to give things to his family as opposed to
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Speaker 7: Corey Richards So it all kind of fits together. The
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Speaker 7: puzzle fits together.
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Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace. Doctor William Maroney truly a
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Speaker 1: renowned medical examiner and toxicologist. He is the author of
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Speaker 1: American Narcan and Justin Borman joining me former detective in Utah.
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Speaker 1: And of course that's this jurisdiction where the victim, Richds,
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Speaker 1: young man thirty nine years old, in the prime of his life,
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Speaker 1: died a very terrible death. But I want to get
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Speaker 1: to what was found in Corey Richards sell. Listen to
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Speaker 1: our cut five Dave Mack.
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Speaker 3: The Walk the Dog Letter is a six page handwritten
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Speaker 3: letter that Corey Richins wrote for her mother. Prosecutors claim
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Speaker 3: the letter instructs her mother and brother to give false
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Speaker 3: testimony in the case. According to emotion filed in court,
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Speaker 3: In the letter, Richards wrote, quote, this comes down to jealousy, money,
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Speaker 3: and Eric's partying that they don't want to acknowledge, and sadly,
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Speaker 3: an accidental overdose.
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Speaker 6: Unquote.
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Speaker 3: The prosecutors have asked the judge to restrict Richards from
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Speaker 3: further engaging in witness tampering by restricting her from contacting
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Speaker 3: her mother and brother. Defense attorney sky La Zarro filed
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Speaker 3: a brief accusing the prosecutors of breaching a gag order
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Speaker 3: in the case when they filed the letter titled Walk
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Speaker 3: the Dog as part of their motion.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Elaine Ativias, tell me everything about the so called
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Speaker 1: walk the Dog letter.
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Speaker 5: The walk the Dog letter, first of all, is named
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Speaker 5: that because at the top of the letter, in huge
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Speaker 5: type all caps, she wrote walk the Dog. I think
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Speaker 5: you can sort of take from that that she was
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Speaker 5: giving instructions to whoever this letter was written for.
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Speaker 1: The state alleges that she.
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Speaker 5: Was writing it to her mom with instructions of what
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Speaker 5: to say. Hence, the state is alleging witness tampering. But
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Speaker 5: this letter really sort of talks about, you know, it's
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Speaker 5: almost like this what if you know, and talking.
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Speaker 2: About what the drugs were for and.
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Speaker 5: How this accidentally happened. But in a conversation that she
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Speaker 5: had with her brother, she's alleging that it's part of
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Speaker 5: a fiction mystery novel. Okay, what pet She says that
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Speaker 5: it's part of a fiction mystery novel.
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Speaker 1: I'm so happy Elaine out of Vias. It just made
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Speaker 1: me a very happy former prosecutor. So they are addressing
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Speaker 1: the dog six page letter that was found in her
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Speaker 1: jail cell. And by the way, apparently when they came
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Speaker 1: to and they found that she went into some kind
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Speaker 1: of a seizure. Never had a seizure before in her life,
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Speaker 1: we've been told, But when they found that six page
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Speaker 1: letter in her jail cell, she apparently suffered a seizure.
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Speaker 1: Rich AND's the Moscow Mewle mom claims the letter is
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Speaker 1: trudging her mom to say her husband odeed on drugs
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Speaker 1: from Mexico, claims it is for a book she planned
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Speaker 1: to write. How is that part of a book she
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Speaker 1: planned to write? Elaine Otavias, What does that have to
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Speaker 1: do with the book. What's the plot of the book.
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Speaker 5: Well, here's what's interesting. So the they released the transcript
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Speaker 5: that she had between her and her brother, and in
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Speaker 5: that conversation that she had with her brother, she explains
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Speaker 5: that this she's written a sixty five page novel and
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Speaker 5: it's all about you know, from the detention hearing and
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Speaker 5: what happens. And then she gets out of jail and
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Speaker 5: she and her father go to Mexico where they're dealing
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Speaker 5: with a ranch and a cartel. She's saying this that
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Speaker 5: this is part of a sixty five page novel, but
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Speaker 5: that the jail deputies they pulled out this six page letter.
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Speaker 5: She's claiming that this letter is actually part of a
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Speaker 5: bigger novel and that they're picking and choosing, and on
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Speaker 5: top of it all, she also claims that she wrote
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Speaker 5: a letter on top of it, saying that this is
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Speaker 5: part of you know that events have been changed, but
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Speaker 5: based on true, you know, situations that have happened to her.
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Speaker 5: And what kills me is that it was hidden inside
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Speaker 5: an that book law.
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Speaker 1: School admissions test manual. Now, the damning letter appears to
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Speaker 1: instruct someone to tell Corey Richins's brother, Ronnie to say
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Speaker 1: he had been talking to the dead husband about his
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Speaker 1: ships to Mexico and that the dead husband revealed he
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Speaker 1: had been given pain pills and fentanyls from workers on
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Speaker 1: the ranch. Okay, let's hear some more. Take a listen
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Speaker 1: to investigative reporting team from crime online dot Com.
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Speaker 3: KYU TV says in the Walk of the Dog letter,
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Speaker 3: Corey Richins allegedly wants her brother to say Eric Richins
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Speaker 3: told him he got pain pills and fentanyl from Mexico
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Speaker 3: through workers at a ranch. She allegedly points out how
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Speaker 3: Ronnie's testimony could make the connection of Eric and drugs.
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Speaker 3: In the letter, Corey Richins allegedly says the testimony quote
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Speaker 3: can be short and to the point, but has to
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Speaker 3: be done unquote. Richins also tells her mother to pass
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Speaker 3: information to her brother in person, telling her mother her
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Speaker 3: home and phone could be bugged.
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Speaker 1: So pass the information verbally and in person because the
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Speaker 1: home and phone could be bugged. Let's get to the
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Speaker 1: crux of this entire scenario, and that is the gruesome death,
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Speaker 1: the horrible death of a very loving thirty nine year
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Speaker 1: old dad who was working like a dog to support
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Speaker 1: Corey Richins and their mega mansion and their three little
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Speaker 1: boys as young as age five. This is what happened.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at crime online.
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Speaker 3: According to court documents, Corey Richins called police to their
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Speaker 3: Utah home where her husband, Eric Richins, was found dead
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Speaker 3: in the early morning hours of March fourth, twenty twenty two.
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Speaker 3: Investigators said Corey had given Eric a drink a Moscow
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Speaker 3: mule before he went to bed. She then spent part
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Speaker 3: of the night with one of her three children, who
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Speaker 3: had a nightmare, r into court documents. In her written
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Speaker 3: statement the night of his death, she said when she
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Speaker 3: returned to their bedroom at approximately three am, he was
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Speaker 3: cold to the touch and she called nine one one.
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Speaker 3: It was later determined that Eric had five times the
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Speaker 3: lethal dose of FENTONYL in his system, which officials said
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Speaker 3: have been ingested orally.
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Speaker 1: Joining me right now is the world's premier authority on
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Speaker 1: fentanyl and fentanyl ingestion and fentanyl OD and also how
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Speaker 1: to revive someone from a fentanyl overdose. Doctor William Maroney,
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Speaker 1: the author of American Narcan, Malaxone and Heroin Fentanyl Associated Immortality.
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Speaker 1: This guy, this doctor is using his medical degree to
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Speaker 1: help people with fentanyl addiction to the point he has
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Speaker 1: invested his own money and all his years of education
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Speaker 1: and experience to create a traveling mobile unit to help
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Speaker 1: those addicted to fentanyl. Doctor William Roney, this whole story
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Speaker 1: stinks to high heaven. But first of all, explain what
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Speaker 1: happens when you get a phoenol od What happens, What
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Speaker 1: do you experience?
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Speaker 2: Well, however you ingest it, if you swallow it, if
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Speaker 2: you snort it, if you inject it, whatever happens, It
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Speaker 2: goes to your brain, goes in your blood, goes to
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Speaker 2: your brain, and it goes to a place in your
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Speaker 2: brain that controls your breathing.
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Speaker 8: And slowly you breathe.
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Speaker 2: Shallow, infrequent, less and less, and you suffocate. You go
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Speaker 2: through asphyxia, you lose all your oxygen and your heart
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Speaker 2: stops pumping it and you stop breathing.
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Speaker 8: And it's got to be one of the various things
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Speaker 8: in the world.
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Speaker 2: It's like being locked in a tomb darkness. You can't
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Speaker 2: get out, and your body doesn't work, and your muscles
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Speaker 2: don't work, and you get weaker and weaker, and eventually,
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Speaker 2: if you can be reached with narcan before your final breath,
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Speaker 2: narcan can get in your system and push the fentanel
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Speaker 2: off your brain, kind of like pulling fuzzies off your sweater.
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Speaker 8: And you start breathing again.
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Speaker 2: But if you don't have the nark can you die
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Speaker 2: and you stop breathing in two to three minutes and
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Speaker 2: you have six minutes before there's irreversible damage in your brain.
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Speaker 2: We get a lot of people at the hospital that
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Speaker 2: have been sentinel overdoses and the families keep them around
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Speaker 2: for a couple of days, They keep them on ventilators,
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Speaker 2: hope they're coming back, but the brain head.
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Speaker 8: So you really need that intervention early.
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Speaker 2: You need all pain and addiction patients in America should
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Speaker 2: have narc hand in their home. And you know what
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Speaker 2: Theanna Scotch truth is, everybody with small children should have nark.
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Speaker 8: Hand in their home for accidents.
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Speaker 2: Because this fentanyal stuff is everywhere. It's on dollar bills,
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Speaker 2: it's in other drugs. It could be coming out of
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Speaker 2: grocery stores or things that you touch at the gas station.
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Speaker 2: We're in a fentanyl crisis. This is not an opioid crisis.
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Speaker 2: Sentyl is so far out of control it's equivalent to
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Speaker 2: a weapon of mass destruction.
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Speaker 1: Doctor moroney say I had a fentanyl overdose. What have
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Speaker 1: you ever been asleep and you're trying to wake up
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Speaker 1: but you can't wake up? Or what they like being
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Speaker 1: inside a coffin and little, my little, you know you're
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Speaker 1: dying and you run out of air and talk to
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Speaker 1: me in regular people talk. Dr Mormoney Me, what would
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Speaker 1: he Richan's experience?
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Speaker 2: All of the people I know that have come to
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Speaker 2: me that have overdosed on Sentinel but they got the
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Speaker 2: narkkn they came back and now they're in treatment.
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Speaker 8: With medication assistant treatment.
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Speaker 2: They all say there's a rush of heat in the
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Speaker 2: body as the fencancyel goes through the bloodstream, and then
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Speaker 2: slowly you lose all consciousness what you described with sleep paralysis,
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Speaker 2: where you're kind of in bed and you.
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Speaker 8: Can think, but you can't move. Sometimes you can't talk.
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Speaker 2: Not being able to breathe has got to be the
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Speaker 2: scariest thing in the world. I would rather be cut
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Speaker 2: in half and smashed through the car and shot a
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Speaker 2: hundred times and lid on fire than not being able
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Speaker 2: to breathe. If you can't breathe, nothing else matters. And
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Speaker 2: the idea that somebody would put Sentinel. The toxic dose
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Speaker 2: of fentanyl is two milligrams.
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Speaker 8: That's equivalent to.
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Speaker 2: Twelve to fourteen granules out of the salt shaker at
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Speaker 2: the breakfast diner. If you shake salt on the table
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Speaker 2: and you can get ten or twelve or fourteen granules,
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Speaker 2: that's enough fentanyl to kill you. And a full teaspoon
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Speaker 2: is enough to kill everybody in the room.
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Speaker 1: Well, I got to tell you, doctor Moroney. I saw reportswear.
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Speaker 1: I believe it was a lady cop was on a
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Speaker 1: crime saye and she nearly died because the report was
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Speaker 1: she touched Sentinel unwittingly, And I thought, wow, that doesn't
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Speaker 1: ring true to me, because I've in court handles so
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Speaker 1: many drugs with my bare hands and nothing ever happened.
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Speaker 1: But it actually is true, isn't it.
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Speaker 8: It is?
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Speaker 2: And it is the amount of fentanyl that touches the
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Speaker 2: skin and gets absorbed. It's happened in the deputies in
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Speaker 2: the surrounding counties around US. All the deputies try to
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Speaker 2: carry two in narcns. One is for patients or you know,
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Speaker 2: when they're chasing people down or drug overdoses, and one
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Speaker 2: is for their partners.
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Speaker 8: We have to have nar cans and even gloves.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes you gotta be careful because those masks are a
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Speaker 2: joke with ventanyl.
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Speaker 8: They don't stop federol.
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Speaker 2: But people touching crime scenes, turning envelopes over.
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Speaker 1: So that is what is being discussed here. That Eric
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Speaker 1: rich And is the data of three odd on fentanyl.
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Speaker 1: But now, what about a moscow mule? Justin Bormann, just
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Speaker 1: In Time, former detective in this jurisdiction Utah West Valley CITYPD.
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Speaker 1: Now Borman's raining and consulting. Justin Boardman, what's a moscow mule?
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Speaker 9: Well, moscow mule is one of my favorite beverages. But
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Speaker 9: it would be vodka and ginger beer with a twist
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Speaker 9: of wad.
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Speaker 1: Now, ginger beer we all had at Universal in Harry
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Speaker 1: potter Land. It's a very tangy I love it. It's
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Speaker 1: not actually beer, it's or is it beer? Because children
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Speaker 1: can get it? Maybe it's more ginger than anything else
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Speaker 1: in Ginger has a very strong taste, which would conceal
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Speaker 1: fenl I mean yes, no, doctor Moroney, yes no. Does
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Speaker 1: fennel taste like anything vent is bitter?
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Speaker 2: You need to have some strong, pungent, sour, sweet flavoring.
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Speaker 1: Like ginger beer. Okay, So Justin boardman, the theory, the
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Speaker 1: working theory. I mean, you're the detective, this is your jurisdiction.
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Speaker 1: The theory is that she put fentanyl a huge od
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Speaker 1: amount into the ginger beer. Yes.
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Speaker 8: No, yes, And that's the theory.
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Speaker 9: That it was taken orally and was hidden in the
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Speaker 9: Moscow mule that he had that evening and passed from.
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Speaker 1: We're never going to know if she handed him that
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Speaker 1: glass or if he just drank it on his own.
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Speaker 1: But that's when you fall back on circumstantial evidence. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to.
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Speaker 3: This evidence gathered revealed Corey claim she didn't have access
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Speaker 3: to her phone that night. She said it was left
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Speaker 3: on the charger by her bed while she was in
24:37
Speaker 3: another room tending a sick child. However, a data dumb
24:41
Speaker 3: shows Richin's phone was in use during the time her
24:43
Speaker 3: husband was dying and that sent messages had been deleted.
24:47
Speaker 3: Additional evidence showed Richins was in contact with a drug
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Speaker 3: dealer in Ogden leading up to her husband's death. The
24:53
Speaker 3: legal document state she received both hydro codone pills and
24:57
Speaker 3: fentanyl from the dealer. The claim was that the drugs
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Speaker 3: were intended for a client experiencing back pain, even specifically
25:04
Speaker 3: asking for quote the Michael Jackson stuff unquote meaning fentanyl.
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Speaker 3: Information from the autopsy report determined Eric Richards died from
25:13
Speaker 3: an overdose of fentanyl five times the lethal dosage.
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Speaker 1: Elaine on a VS. Joining US senior investigative crime reporter
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Speaker 1: with the messenger. Elaine again, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: You know is the cover up is deadly in this
25:29
Speaker 1: case deleting text messages. You know, my phone can barely work.
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Speaker 1: I've got so many emails and text messages on it.
25:38
Speaker 1: I never think to delete anything. I mean there are
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Speaker 1: messages on there for twenty fifteen and sixteen. Yes, So
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Speaker 1: the fact that you suddenly have the urge to delete
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Speaker 1: a bunch of text and emails, which of course anybody
25:52
Speaker 1: can get from the cloud. But that said, explain to me,
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Speaker 1: Elaine out a VS. She said her phone was in
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Speaker 1: a different room that that night, of all not she
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Speaker 1: went and slept with her boys while her husband die
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Speaker 1: killed over in the other room. But yet when authority searched,
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Speaker 1: they found out the phone was actually in use the
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Speaker 1: entire time, and that those particular texts had been deleted.
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Speaker 1: Do I have that right? Could you explain that place
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Speaker 1: a line.
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Speaker 5: Yes, I think you know a lot of times, especially
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Speaker 5: you know with all the shows we see in all
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Speaker 5: these previous cases we see you know before you know,
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Speaker 5: they tried to do they tried to take care of everything.
26:36
Speaker 7: You know, they they have.
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Speaker 5: Googled, you know, how do I clean up this or whatever,
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Speaker 5: and somehow they always forget about the phone. The phone
26:49
Speaker 5: has the ability to be tracked because everyone has like
26:52
Speaker 5: find my phone, or you know, the cell towers. They
26:56
Speaker 5: can see movement. They can you know, when when investigators,
27:01
Speaker 5: they have forensic investigators, when they subpoena your phone and
27:05
Speaker 5: they start going through it, they can see when it
27:07
Speaker 5: turned on, when it moved, all of these things. And
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Speaker 5: so I think, you know, we will find out more
27:15
Speaker 5: about it in court when forensic investigators explain what they found.
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Speaker 5: But thus far we know that the phone was in use,
27:23
Speaker 5: So which puts a crack in her story already a
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Speaker 5: big crack.
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Speaker 1: Because you've got your phone, you can call nine one
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Speaker 1: one immediately, and does that means she wasn't really even
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Speaker 1: in the children's room when she's right there watching the
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Speaker 1: husband die. Donna Kelly joining me, former Utah Senior deputy
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Speaker 1: district attorney this jurisdiction, Donna Kelly, the deleting, the text
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Speaker 1: and the emails, the phone movements, it reminds me significantly
27:53
Speaker 1: the Alex Murdock double murder prosecution, where he was charging
27:56
Speaker 1: the murder off his wife Maggie and son Paul. The
28:00
Speaker 1: forensic evidence showed that he was at the dog kennels
28:04
Speaker 1: where his wife and son were murdered riddled with bullets.
28:09
Speaker 1: Because of his cell phone and because of another cell
28:12
Speaker 1: phone video, it placed him there. The phone then followed
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Speaker 1: him to his vehicle. The phone traveled with him and
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Speaker 1: his wife, Maggie's phone, then her phone is thrown out
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Speaker 1: of the car, linked with the navigation system in his vehicle.
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Speaker 1: I believe it was a suburban. It shows every move
28:34
Speaker 1: he made from letting the windows up and down, to
28:37
Speaker 1: the speed, to the ignition turn, you name it. Technology
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Speaker 1: is a very powerful tool and the prosecutor's arsenal Donna Kelly.
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Speaker 7: Absolutely. And the reason that Jerry's loved this kind of
28:51
Speaker 7: evidence is it's very objective. It doesn't have a bias,
28:55
Speaker 7: it doesn't have an agenda, it's just there. And so
28:59
Speaker 7: that evidence is very powerful to a jury. And it
29:04
Speaker 7: also shows the consciousness of guilt that the person has.
29:09
Speaker 7: For example, in deleting messages, you know immediately that sort
29:14
Speaker 7: of thing. So it can show you know, the movement
29:17
Speaker 7: and the messages that went in and out, but it
29:20
Speaker 7: can also show consciousness of your own guilt.
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Speaker 1: You're right so to say. Well, then began looking at
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Speaker 1: other circumstantial evidence contemporaneous around the time of the death.
29:34
Speaker 1: Take a listen to this.
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Speaker 3: After Eric Richind's death, Corey Rigins hired a locksmith to
29:39
Speaker 3: open Eric's safe. Between one hundred and twenty five thousand
29:42
Speaker 3: and one hundred and sixty five thousand dollars was reportedly inside.
29:45
Speaker 3: When Eric Richard's sister told her sister in law she
29:48
Speaker 3: didn't have the rights to those funds, Corey Rigins punched her.
29:52
Speaker 3: Eric Richins had also opened a living trust and placed
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Speaker 3: the trust as his life insurance beneficiary instead of We
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Speaker 3: now know Corey had purchased at least four life insurance
30:04
Speaker 3: policies on Eric Richins, with death benefits of over a
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Speaker 3: million dollars.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Doctor Bethany Marshall renounced Psycho Allen's joining us out
30:12
Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills. I tell you one thing, if my husband,
30:16
Speaker 1: David Lynch goes out and takes four life insurance policies
30:19
Speaker 1: out on me. Uh uh in oh, We're splitting up
30:24
Speaker 1: at that moment, and I'm taking the twins period. He
30:28
Speaker 1: can have everything else except those twins for life insurance policies.
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Speaker 6: What you know, Nancy, When I listen to this story,
30:37
Speaker 6: I so I think of Corey Richards as suffering what
30:41
Speaker 6: I affectionately term the Casey Anthony syndrome. Every lie, every maneuver,
30:48
Speaker 6: every motive is so flagrantly transparent, and from a mental
30:55
Speaker 6: health perspective, she's probably suffering from what we call cluster
30:58
Speaker 6: b cluster B is when you have sociopathy.
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Speaker 1: Are you saying cluster cluster cluster like a cluster bomb?
31:07
Speaker 6: So when you have sociopathy, borderline personality disorder and potentially bipolar, I.
31:14
Speaker 1: Don't even know what you're saying. Blah blah blah blah blah.
31:17
Speaker 1: She's gravy, she wants money. What are you talking about?
31:21
Speaker 1: Cluster what?
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Speaker 6: Okay? So sociopathy, they lie, they can, they manipulate, they
31:27
Speaker 6: have parasitic lifestyle. So there you have the money motive,
31:31
Speaker 6: borderline personality disorder, there's clinging and rejecting behavior. They can
31:36
Speaker 6: plot and plan forever bi polar where they get in
31:40
Speaker 6: such a certain type of mood where they feel no
31:42
Speaker 6: guilt or consciousness or remorse. So she has all these
31:47
Speaker 6: things swirling around, and that's why this story just gets
31:51
Speaker 6: crazier and crazier. And like Casey Anthony, everyone from the
31:55
Speaker 6: outside looking in can say, that's a lie. That's a lie,
31:59
Speaker 6: that's a that's a lie. How can she not know
32:02
Speaker 6: that we know she's lying? And that's what happens with
32:06
Speaker 6: these kinds of personalities. They don't see in themselves what
32:09
Speaker 6: we see in them. And that's why the family went
32:13
Speaker 6: over to check the safe. That's why they caught her,
32:16
Speaker 6: is that they had been observing this for a long
32:20
Speaker 6: long time.
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Speaker 1: Well, there's more to the money motive, and I can't
32:24
Speaker 1: wait for doctor Moroney to champagne on how many dead
32:27
Speaker 1: body sees autopsied that are dead because of money motive.
32:32
Speaker 1: Listen to this.
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Speaker 3: Investigators say Eric Richins was looking into a divorce. He
32:37
Speaker 3: had recently changed his will and life insurance from his
32:40
Speaker 3: wife to his sister. Two friends told detectives that Eric
32:43
Speaker 3: Richards was worried Corey would kill him for the money
32:46
Speaker 3: and wanted to ensure that his kids were taken care
32:48
Speaker 3: of financially. Even as Corey Richins was promoting her children's
32:52
Speaker 3: book about grief on local television, investigators were looking into
32:56
Speaker 3: the couple's troubled paths.
32:58
Speaker 1: I've watched that interview a million times and never once
33:01
Speaker 1: did this woman shit a tear? Doctor William Morony, we
33:06
Speaker 1: now medical examiner. The love of money the root of
33:11
Speaker 1: all evil. What do you think about that, Maroni?
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Speaker 8: It's really a good reason. It's at the top of
33:16
Speaker 8: the list. Money is.
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Speaker 2: It's like worse than love and infidelity because you can
33:23
Speaker 2: just enjoy it all by yourself. It's sinful, and it's
33:27
Speaker 2: in every culture, and it's in every country, and whether
33:30
Speaker 2: it's male or female, it's always about the money. And
33:35
Speaker 2: what I'm really worried about somebody this reckless. People will
33:39
Speaker 2: reproduce this and what happens. Fentanyl is so dangerous. She
33:45
Speaker 2: could have accidentally killed her children.
33:48
Speaker 1: You're right, the three little boys in the same hume.
33:51
Speaker 1: Oh what if one of them had taken a sip
33:53
Speaker 1: of that moscow mule.
33:54
Speaker 2: Even if they would have touched fentanyl on the counter,
33:58
Speaker 2: or there was fentanyl dust and something like that is
34:02
Speaker 2: just to poison somebody with fentanyl when they're small children
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Speaker 2: in the room. That's insane.
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Speaker 1: Fentanyl dust. Remember Marony, doctor Moroney. We just covered the
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Speaker 1: case of a little one year old boy who died
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Speaker 1: in a daycare from fentanyl New York dust. He breathed
34:19
Speaker 1: it in the daycare was being was a front for dope.
34:23
Speaker 1: He breathed and we think or touched fentanyl. Time Stories
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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. Guys, here's the kicker. This is not
34:49
Speaker 1: the first time, according to Ellie Law enforcement, that Corey
34:53
Speaker 1: rich has tried to murder her husband. Listen to in
34:58
Speaker 1: the investigative reporting team at Crime Stories.
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Speaker 3: Valentine's Day twenty twenty two, Eric Richins becomes violently ill
35:05
Speaker 3: after suffering an allergic reaction after having dinner with his
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Speaker 3: wife of nine years, Corey. He breaks out in hives,
35:12
Speaker 3: can't Breathe passes out after using his son's EPI pen
35:15
Speaker 3: and taking Benadreel. When Eric wakes up, he calls his
35:18
Speaker 3: business partner, Cody Wright to let him know what has
35:21
Speaker 3: just happened. Then, without Corey knowing, Eric changes the beneficiary
35:26
Speaker 3: of his will and his power of attorney, replacing his
35:29
Speaker 3: wife Corey with his sister. Legal paperwork suggests that Eric
35:34
Speaker 3: believes Corey might kill him for the money, and he
35:37
Speaker 3: wants his children to be financially secure.
35:40
Speaker 1: Kind of reminds me of Caltman Laurie Valo. Her husband
35:44
Speaker 1: was afraid that she would kill him, so he changed
35:49
Speaker 1: a lot of his financial setup away from her, and
35:57
Speaker 1: she killed him anyway, had him killed anyway, not knowing
36:01
Speaker 1: that she was no longer his beneficiary. That said, this
36:06
Speaker 1: reminds me of another incredible case. And you know I
36:10
Speaker 1: couldn't make this up. Do you remember the name Dahlia Dippolito.
36:16
Speaker 1: Reportedly a former escort who marries the victim. She sets
36:24
Speaker 1: up a hit. She sets up a shooting hit to
36:28
Speaker 1: kill him and get money in a town home. But
36:32
Speaker 1: of course she sets it up with an undercover agent
36:34
Speaker 1: and he's got it all on tape, planning to kill
36:37
Speaker 1: her husband. Dahlia Dippolito, So apparently she tried to kill
36:42
Speaker 1: him before in a poisoned Starbucks latte of some sort.
36:47
Speaker 1: Didn't work, so she tries again. According to him, he lives.
36:52
Speaker 1: The undercover agent stops the hit, but they pretend to her.
36:58
Speaker 1: This is a sting that they're coming to tell her
37:03
Speaker 1: her husband has been attacked and he's dead. Now, Meryl Streep,
37:08
Speaker 1: I love you, lady, but move over because Dahlia Dippolito
37:13
Speaker 1: may beat you out for your next oscar. Listen to
37:16
Speaker 1: Dahlia Dippolito reacting to Nie her husband is dead.
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Speaker 10: I'm Sergeant Ramsey. I'm the one to call you.
37:23
Speaker 6: Thank you for comment.
37:24
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to call you.
37:25
Speaker 3: Listen.
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Speaker 10: We had a report of a disturbance at your house
37:27
Speaker 10: and there were shots fired as your husband, Michael, Okay,
37:31
Speaker 10: I'm sorry to tell you. Then he's been killed.
37:34
Speaker 8: He's been killed.
37:35
Speaker 6: Then, right now we.
37:42
Speaker 5: Need to get we.
37:44
Speaker 2: Need I can't let man.
37:47
Speaker 5: We have to do our job.
37:48
Speaker 10: If you want to find at killer, we need you
37:51
Speaker 10: to calm down. Need you to go with these defictives. Okay,
37:55
Speaker 10: does you have enemies? Is there anyone that would want
37:58
Speaker 10: to Okay? Here, want heard him with us? She said
38:01
Speaker 10: he saw a blackmail running from me. I can't let
38:03
Speaker 10: you see him them them. I cannot do this right now.
38:07
Speaker 1: I need you.
38:10
Speaker 10: I need you to take it to the stations. I
38:12
Speaker 10: can't go with these detectives. If you want to help
38:15
Speaker 10: your husband, okay, if you want to help your husband.
38:17
Speaker 10: You need to go to the station with these gentlemen
38:19
Speaker 10: and tell us everything you know about who he knows,
38:21
Speaker 10: who's connected to. Don't worry, We've already taken care of
38:24
Speaker 10: dogs with animal control for right now. Everything's under control.
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Speaker 1: There's more, but I just listen to that all day.
38:32
Speaker 1: Did you hear that, Donna Kelly? That was Dollia Dipolito
38:36
Speaker 1: when she's told her husband's dead, he's not dead. Later
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Speaker 1: at the police station, they're questioning her and he walks by.
38:43
Speaker 1: He goes, Hi, you tried to kill me.
38:46
Speaker 11: But in this case, now we're getting this very long
38:50
Speaker 11: letter where obviously Cory rich AND's Moscow Mule Mom is
38:54
Speaker 11: trying to convince her family to lie about her husband
38:58
Speaker 11: traveling to Mexico to get these drugs.
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Speaker 7: Yes, that evidence is going to be explosive and very
39:06
Speaker 7: powerful in front of the jury. And compounding the actual
39:11
Speaker 7: letter is also the evidence that she's trying to manufacture
39:16
Speaker 7: excuses for writing it. She says, at first it was
39:21
Speaker 7: written for her lawyer's benefits, so it's privileged. Well, that's
39:25
Speaker 7: obviously a lie because write in the letter she refers
39:28
Speaker 7: to her lawyer by name, you know, tell my brother
39:32
Speaker 7: to go talk to the name of her lawyer. So
39:35
Speaker 7: obviously it's not written for the lawyer. But also then
39:40
Speaker 7: now she had to concoct a new lie because that
39:43
Speaker 7: one didn't fly. So you have not only the letter
39:47
Speaker 7: with the instructions of how to lie, but you have
39:50
Speaker 7: her excuses for writing it, which compounds again shows her
39:57
Speaker 7: consciousness of her own guilt.
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Speaker 1: While she's having some type of a seizure, guard search
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Speaker 1: her cell find a copy of a bombshell letter instructing
40:06
Speaker 1: her own mother to fuel conspiracy theories that her dead
40:10
Speaker 1: husband had a drug problem and overdosed. He was at
40:14
Speaker 1: work every day, working trying to pay for that mega
40:17
Speaker 1: mansion they were living in. In the letter, she reportedly
40:20
Speaker 1: asked her the mother, to get her brother to concoct
40:25
Speaker 1: a story. The husband, a year before his death, secretly
40:29
Speaker 1: told the brother he would get pain pills and fentanyl
40:32
Speaker 1: from a ranch hand in Mexico. She wrote that she
40:36
Speaker 1: would also say her husband asked the caterer, an alleged
40:40
Speaker 1: drug dealer, to hook him up with more, when actually
40:44
Speaker 1: that housekeeper caterer says that she, Corey Richins, is the
40:49
Speaker 1: one wanting the money. So this is an incredible development
40:55
Speaker 1: in the case. And oh, by the way, I don't
40:58
Speaker 1: know if you guys knew this, but justin Boardman in
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Speaker 1: the dahliat Dippalito case. She then claimed something similar to
41:06
Speaker 1: what Moscow Mule Mom is saying. She claimed that was
41:09
Speaker 1: a script. It was all a setup. They were all
41:12
Speaker 1: acting for a reality show, the way Corey Richards is saying, Oh,
41:19
Speaker 1: that letter telling everybody what to say about my husband
41:21
Speaker 1: being a dopehead. That was part of a manuscript. That's
41:25
Speaker 1: the ticket, a manuscript of a book I was writing.
41:28
Speaker 1: It's not going to work.
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Speaker 9: No, that is a lot of drama, if you will.
41:35
Speaker 8: It also reminds me of a case that was.
41:40
Speaker 9: Investigated a couple of cubicles over from my own, and
41:43
Speaker 9: that was the Susan and Josh Powell case where Susan
41:47
Speaker 9: had put a letter in her work file at work
41:51
Speaker 9: that if she disappeared or died, that Josh probably did.
41:55
Speaker 9: It very interesting to me to see these sort of
42:02
Speaker 9: people get these intuitions that they might get off by
42:07
Speaker 9: their significant other like he did as.
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Speaker 1: Well, he really did. And you can read the entire
42:14
Speaker 1: letter at crimeonline dot com. But it goes on to
42:19
Speaker 1: say if you could read it. It says I need Eric.
42:26
Speaker 1: Eric told Romney he gets pain pillars from Mexico. You
42:32
Speaker 1: may have to testify to this. Romney should have gotten
42:37
Speaker 1: text from Eric talking about getting high. I mean, it
42:42
Speaker 1: goes on and on describing what would help her if
42:47
Speaker 1: they said it on the stand. Nancy, can I jump
42:51
Speaker 1: place jump in?
42:52
Speaker 6: Well, you know, not only is she witnessed hampering, but
42:56
Speaker 6: this is one more example of criminals in roiling their
43:00
Speaker 6: families and their crimes. They don't just take themselves down,
43:03
Speaker 6: they take everyone else down around them.
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Speaker 12: I mean, if you read it, it goes on to
43:09
Speaker 12: talk about how you may have to testify to this,
43:14
Speaker 12: maybe something like he gets high every night and won't
43:18
Speaker 12: help take.
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Speaker 1: Care of the kids. It just goes on and on
43:23
Speaker 1: and on.
43:23
Speaker 6: Remember Casey Anthony accused her brother and her father of
43:26
Speaker 6: molesting her, and you know all these things. There's this
43:30
Speaker 6: thoughtless attitude, there's this callous disregard for family members. So
43:35
Speaker 6: the family members are used just as much as she
43:38
Speaker 6: used her husband, she used the press, she used her
43:40
Speaker 6: own children without any thought to the consequences.
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Speaker 1: This case is heading to trial, isn't that true?
43:47
Speaker 13: Elaine Otavius, Yes, I mean, that's the goal, but there
43:52
Speaker 13: are so many more hearings that are coming up that,
43:57
Speaker 13: I mean, the next one.
43:59
Speaker 5: There actually going to argue whether it should be dismissed.
44:03
Speaker 5: That's what her attorney filed based on this lot.
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Speaker 1: M hmm. That's straight out of the defense playbook. Remember
44:11
Speaker 1: they just tried that in the Brian Coburger case. It
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Speaker 1: didn't work. We wait as this trial unfolds. Goodbye friend,