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Viking Ding Dong: The Pain Behind His Smile & Betting on Himself · Corie Sheppard Podcast

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  SPEAKER_00: Mom and dad was married, they separated.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was very sad and depressed.
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  SPEAKER_00: Every minute I crying.
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  SPEAKER_00: They call me for show like rains.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hello.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hi.
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  SPEAKER_00: COVID.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right after I was outside, I was inside.
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  SPEAKER_00: I started self-fish now.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I get vexed now, I don't lash out.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just get silent.
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  SPEAKER_00: My relationships break down.
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  SPEAKER_00: We send the song to Marshall, but Marshall tells me to give it to you.
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  SPEAKER_00: He really likes my boy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like how I got a daughter.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it it I've got back some feeling.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I ran on stage, I will paint take me, I mean.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, one thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why y'all smiling and glad?
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  SPEAKER_00: Me smiling is just stopping to myself that you're not in that mental space anymore.
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  SPEAKER_00: Dude, you're getting serious for the second thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: You are now alive with us and Cory Stephen Cory Stephen Corey.
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  Corie: Mommy, look along that shoot.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be sexy.
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  Corie: The no show me the thing that I was doing in the beginning where I asked to like and subscribe, and it looked like that.
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  Corie: Bang.
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  Corie: Welcome to the Cory Shoppers Podcast.
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  Corie: Welcome back to everybody who's been listening.
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  Corie: Thank you for all the new people who tuning in.
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  Corie: Today we have a man, I ain't sure what to call him.
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  Corie: To call him a DJ, an artist, a businessman, entrepreneur, radio, nung, so the full works and a selector.
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  Corie: Plenty of different things.
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  Corie: I want to welcome to the show Viking Ding Dong.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's cool.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everything good, everything good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure, man.
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  Corie: Every listener, I was one day and when they tell me you're coming, I say, boy, this date finally reached.
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  Corie: We finally had ding dong here.
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  Corie: We're glad to have you here, brother.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_00: Last time she was like, um, you know, you had the um podcast tomorrow here, man.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_00: Of course.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_00: Wanna watch me here?
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_00: I say, nah, I can't go on the podcast and look this way.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was like, nah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because right now the podcast is trending.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's so I say, boy, I'd have to represent myself proper.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: And how to make sure I look the partner.
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  Corie: You understand?
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  Corie: Well, you look in the part, look any part is a good place to start.
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  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
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  Corie: I see you the other day, you know, shoot, brother.
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  Corie: They have kill you for that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, they know I have a kind of unique style as well, too.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, and like in my mind, I swear I kill in the runway.
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  SPEAKER_03: You had it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I had it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, I pose a picture, and then after I was like, alright, let me do some stuff, and then when I go on back, I see about 200 come, yeah, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: But what going on here?
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  SPEAKER_00: I said, nah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I said I read through, yeah, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nah, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: Something wrong.
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  Corie: So you started see a trend in your phone blow up and you see people, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then I was like, I can't understand, and then I asked a few of my good friends, where they think about the outfit.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then they was like, night off and I was like, all right, cool, I respect that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nobody think about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just take my criticism well.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it's not like I go in and dwell on it and like I ain't feeling no one because I accustomed to this space in me, but these spaces are all kind of fickle too.
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  SPEAKER_00: So any little thing, it could trigger a whole different reaction.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I I was actually coming to this podcast in the shirt now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Seriously, I said, I'm gonna try different vibes.
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  Corie: I go to messenger, I'm gonna tell Gabby, I say, Gabby, tell him what with the shirt now.
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  Corie: Just do the drop initial.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was this close, it was this close.
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  Corie: I shouldn't remember.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was this close, I was this close.
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  Corie: Basically, the thing is your vibe have a kind of energy where you always quick to laugh, right?
• 3:50
  Corie: You don't mind laugh and make people laugh.
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  Corie: So when I say it, I was wondering if you do that on purpose like a leave up no.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, I really didn't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: I really didn't know, I really didn't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was so confident in my little outfit.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because it was the pants, the pants, the way I would fit and then the shoes.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I was actually feeling like amigo.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, Boy, I say boy, I'll get them all in Spanish.
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  SPEAKER_00: Flick yeah.
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  Corie: But they didn't take it too well.
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  Corie: Yeah, but that's fine.
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  Corie: That's fine.
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  Corie: But that's work still, that's work still.
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  Corie: As we was talking about kids, too.
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  Corie: I remember when Kit was here, he was talking about doing that um fashion and calypso thing.
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  Corie: Because you was talking about Calypso.
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  Corie: Let me carefully say this, right?
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  Corie: Because that was the next thing people didn't like that, eh?
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  Corie: Yeah.
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  Corie: He said that soaker artists don't have a look.
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  Corie: He said the Calypsonian always had a kind of look and a feel and a vibe.
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  Corie: You could identify a Calypsoan.
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  Corie: But so artists, hard to identify.
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  Corie: So I knew he was doing the runaway show to do that.
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  Corie: I know he was a part of that show too.
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  Corie: But I noticed that there's something that you pay attention to because I see you performing in suits.
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  Corie: You don't feel man or see in suits and things.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, well, um, at that point, I tried the suiting because I wanted them to take my little serious.
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  SPEAKER_00: So um I had to adjust the way how my look and feel on stage.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I went by Eclipse and I invest myself.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then I started using Eclipse, I started to use Dao.
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  SPEAKER_00: So just to get a feel now, because you know, coming from that background, radio, that whole thing, you mean to solidify yourself, it'll take a it take a push.
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  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
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  SPEAKER_00: So, but honestly, that season I didn't make no money because all the money went in cool.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, this could never be it.
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  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 5:30
  Corie: But yeah, stamp yourself.
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  Corie: And I think about social media, everything you do, it's in ink, you know, it's forever, you know.
• 5:35
  Corie: Yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure.
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  Corie: Let's talk about that DJ thing with music now, because it's something that I I mean as a fan looking at it over the years, you used to hear people talk about it with DJs singing and thing and the artists having a problem with it.
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  Corie: Yeah.
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  Corie: But I realised by this table is a bigger problem than I thought by the artists was the artist and the must.
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  Corie: When you initially started, you used to get the pushback.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, my man now, I just I kind of possess a different energy because I'm more I kinda I kind of warm up people around me.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm it's hard for you to actually just come out and fight me directly.
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  SPEAKER_00: You might feel it, but you won't come out and say.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you're gonna look bad too.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're gonna look bad.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because you remember now, my personality used to really assist and help everybody among that journey as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: So in the space, you will hear the little mummers because you remember now back then it was the in thing to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: But you remember now, not everybody um to the to the potential that they see that they could have been as far as the Marshalls and the Kess and thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: You remember my man will try and then after, by the time you get the little pushback, he's done.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, too tricky.
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  SPEAKER_00: I could call a few names.
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  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
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  SPEAKER_00: You were gonna name for name.
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  SPEAKER_00: So back then it was the thing to do, but I always had the the passion to sing in her, but I had to wait on the time, the right timing to come in.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because everybody was doing it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I don't like to do popular.
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  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
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  SPEAKER_00: I ain't following no trend, but it was my passion.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I had no choice but just to wait to skip in and and and actually flow in properly now.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what I did in the interim, I was like learning the craft, learning behind the scenes, looking at people's success rate, look at the year after the success rate to see how you function in this space because the year you have a song, everybody, God, my brother, you call them.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then the next year they're playing like they don't know you.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I look at the whole behavioral pattern of how people deal with it and how you know because it's a real mental thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: People looking at it as but you get a monster, you catch them, you're bad.
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  SPEAKER_00: But you remember now it has mess with your mental.
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  SPEAKER_00: But plenty people, plenty so artists need to go and take counseling around.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because it's not a simple thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: You remember now, plenty of them just be just gruntle and just be mumble, and then you see them on the internet cussing and you know, and you want to know why.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is that resentment?
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  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
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  SPEAKER_00: I can see where it was built from.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can see where it's built from.
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  SPEAKER_00: Being in that space, I was to be around different artists and DJs.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I I took my time to learn the craft.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, so as much as you want to sing and get a song, you remember when you sing and you get a hit song, you remember you don't know how to behave in that moment.
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  SPEAKER_00: You just go in with the momentum.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: But then after, that is the real deciding factor of character.
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  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_00: Because it can come out of pocket.
• 8:29
  Corie: Of course, of course.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because then the first thing to say after that whole period is the fighting, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because everybody, it's easy to say.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
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  SPEAKER_00: But it's not nobody in the fighting.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: You had to do more.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or you had to assess the situation and do things differently.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or drop out.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like some people do.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_00: Nah.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: I can't drop out.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, nah, you gone too far.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you this, right?
• 8:51
  Corie: Like saying you're talking to people, I would typically look at when somebody comes out, when they where's the era?
• 8:57
  Corie: Everybody have their era and thing, right?
• 8:59
  Corie: And when I look at um your era versus your listener song a little long enough, I say, but we're the rather than it.
• 9:04
  Corie: But we've gone back in the day, wait just happening.
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  Corie: They are real song.
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  Corie: So you you decide to stick with it.
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  Corie: But it's interesting to hear you say that was your passion from small.
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  Corie: You always know you wanted to sing and then.
• 9:14
  Corie: Always, always, always.
• 9:15
  Corie: Yeah.
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  Corie: Where'd that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, I just I don't I have to get you that journey in a chronological order.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because it's a step study thing, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: All right, humble beginning in point.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know everybody go say the humble, but uh.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: So started off in point.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um I would say my mentor, my cousin, Kester Andrews.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: So he was a a DJ in point fourteen.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: So he had a song system where they used to play music, plus they used to rent out the system itself.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_00: So from that now, he started doing events.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, that whole radio era with 98.9, 96.1, that whole thing was going on.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_00: So you used to bring like the popular DJs like the jugglers, the radioactive, the Excalibur, the Cell Construction.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you used to bring everybody.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_00: So in that way now, I in the backstage, so I I interacting with them at a real young age.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, we said 12, 13.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, young, young, young.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_00: So we started interacting with them and getting familiar because yeah, yeah, you try all them time I learned, yeah.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, so you understand where the journey began.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_00: So then now um, what went on after that?
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_00: So, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then after my cousin got a promotion because he was a bank worker.
• 10:41
  Corie: Right.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_00: And then he he he he had to move to um Port of Spain.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: So happened that the same house is the same house he rented with associate degree.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_00: So it was from roommates.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: So then now when he reached up there now, roommates, obviously Diamond Mentor.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_00: I up there in your room, I see put on the ground.
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  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: So he's a degree.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the Yaki Lan Associate degree.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_00: So started being a king from Dungas right?
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_00: Not an acid from St.
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  SPEAKER_00: James.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you remember he moved from you remember from bringing them in point to do the events.
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  Corie: Right.
• 11:16
  Corie: Oh yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So he was like, well, I get this promotion to put us being a looking for a place.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_00: And then I was like, hey, look, we have a we have a seven bedroom, yeah, you can get a room and let's pay a little thing.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: Right, okay, good.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: You good.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_00: So now after that part now, I started being around in the space, understanding what going on, realizing it was a car thing them time, and everybody have a yellow car who have a blue car.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_00: Them time is civic.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_00: B14 Civic.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: Them time them civic and them like Rolls Royce.
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  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
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  SPEAKER_00: So now, and in that's in that moment, I uh got his community license to do the radio station and point.
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  SPEAKER_00: So after going to school and point, point fourteen senior secondary, um obviously my passion is music.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I started to play the soccer music down there.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_00: So now I playing the little soccer music, I my school clothes playing.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, as young as that.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_00: I my school clothes playing.
• 12:16
  Corie: Yeah, so and this was with Iowa Station or playing out and that kind of stuff.
• 12:19
  Corie: No, no, playing on Iowa Station.
• 12:20
  Corie: Okay, right.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I was in yeah 91.9 FM it was a nice start.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_00: So I started playing the soccer now.
• 12:26
  Corie: So let me say this, right?
• 12:27
  Corie: How come so?
• 12:28
  Corie: Because that that age, right?
• 12:29
  Corie: When you're talking about youths 13, 14, 15, secondary school age, so Hoppy said the other day, so is not we um, what does he say?
• 12:37
  Corie: Soka is not we culture.
• 12:38
  Corie: We culture is dance whole.
• 12:40
  Corie: So that age Laurel dance all age, an associate degree and thing was.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, remember now the license he got.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if he could have played all the genres, but he had a soccer station.
• 12:50
  Corie: I see.
• 12:50
  Corie: So you had to follow the format.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: I had no choice, I've been out, you understand?
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: So it's it.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_00: So I started playing the soccer music, and um that year, well, from being in the house there, you remember now, it had tribe, it has all them other bands them time.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_00: So Akila's like, boy, I go to the island people this year, but assassin on that side.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: So I feel I need a DJ, but you remember now he knows that soccer background, so he he loving that soccer energy I bring in.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_00: So I know the music now.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_00: So he was like, Yeah, come it now on the road.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man, what a bad.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: So them time a city back, so I load up all my CD and them and my TDK and them I buy a hole.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: Them times you buy them TDK in the real and you're you're playing mark on it.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_00: You must have a sharpie and a you must have a sharpie and a city bad.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_00: So them time with a bad island people on the road.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: So we went, so that's how I started to integrate myself.
• 13:49
  Corie: So the same teenage school days played on the road for island people.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_00: So I started integrate myself now.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: When I play, we kill it on the road.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_00: Then we had the most vibe, everybody talking about me.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_00: And then he was like, I feel how to bring in 96.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: But you remember them time in 96, come like 96 is 96.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: 96 is blockbuster them time, and yeah.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, What?
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: I said, all right.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: I say, George, I got an opportunity, yeah.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_00: I gone.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm not no problem, brother.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_00: No, it was cool, yeah.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_03: Fine boy.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: Evolution, so you was like, yeah, man, go ahead, do your thing, man.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: So I go on now.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_00: But when I started now, I kid was working 9 to 12.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: So I come in on 11, 11:30.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_00: Because remember them time and assassin in the prime.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_00: And then after now, I remember I had to start to look at like the other genres and things to this.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: So I started working overnight for like about five years.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_00: That was a bet much.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_00: Five years.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: Five years, I tell you, I don't know any dungeon.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: I tell you, when I when I reach any radio station any day, it's looking different to me because I never see it.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: When I reach like in the day for meetings, I look and I don't be building like a strange place.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: Because I don't know what it's looking like any day.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, different.
• 15:10
  Corie: So these days you had to move up tongue then?
• 15:12
  Corie: Yeah.
• 15:12
  Corie: Alright, good, good.
• 15:13
  Corie: You're staying up here.
• 15:13
  Corie: Alright, good.
• 15:14
  Corie: Yeah, alright.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_00: I was only grown for about five years, you know?
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_00: But you remember now, my mental was correct.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: So I always know that I was destined for greatness.
• 15:26
  Corie: Yeah.
• 15:26
  Corie: You understand?
• 15:27
  Corie: But before you move on with that 9-6 overnight, too, or you learn to DJ initially just through the song system, you just started practice and trying to.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, yeah, remember the my cousin of the song system, so I used to practice right through all the time and just keep listening to the radio, taping on my little cassette, and then going back and trying to get the mix and the transition just as smooth now.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_00: So that is where and you learn on records and things or CDs too?
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: No, I learned alone on both.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: But the record was a little risky because you remember back then a needle was$60,$90, and you remember you do have a dollar line in your head.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you can't match up a man needle.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: You can't match up a man needle.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: A man watching it like, yo.
• 16:02
  Corie: Hey, the CDs you can play yourself.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: A man no mind you're playing enough, but don't wheel.
• 16:11
  Corie: The actuals.
• 16:12
  Corie: Oh wait, yeah.
• 16:13
  Corie: Oh wait, yeah.
• 16:13
  Corie: Yeah.
• 16:14
  Corie: So overnight and 9-6, then you this is you're seeing this as what you want to do, right?
• 16:18
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 16:19
  Corie: You're working on things during the day where you're doing dream day.
• 16:21
  Corie: So you're getting paid for the overnight.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: No, not at all, have I?
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: So what?
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: How you eating it?
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: Well, well, well, through the events on the weekend, yeah, so yeah, and I remember I was a chronic saver too.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_00: So I had to budget myself.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: But it was it was a difficult period, you know, but I I got through.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_00: Stick with it.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, stick with it.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people would question the fact where you're going up there for on the ground.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: You may have a whole place in point.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_00: But you remember the end of the day, I smelling blood, so I seen back it, see my way here.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: So I go on up you on the ground on a mattress with a tennis sheet with a I it have a it have a window unit blowing on me.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's serious.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: Have a window unit.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: Because back then in point, you remember my oil boom, so is it is at his Atlantic energy, is petrotrin.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: So my dad was like, what you really aspiring to be?
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: Well, in the early part, before the song system, and I realized how nice it is, and it's a pioneer, CDG, and CDA, all them things, I tell him, alright, is either I want to be a fireman because my dad was a fireman.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_05: He's a fireman.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: Or I want to be some part of the oil and some kind of o'shakes or something, some kind of safety man.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: So everybody was like, alright, yeah, you're looking at your song and like you're becoming a young man.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: But then after now, when I flipped the script, and I was like, So when he realized time passes and he realized then my passion growing for this music, he was like, all so what part you want to take now?
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: I say I want to be a DJ.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: You watch me.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: But the good thing about it is he was like, he didn't judge me.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: He was open-minded about it.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: So he was like, Alright, I'm gonna buy a little turn table for you.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: So he bought a turn table for me at 10,000.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, oh, that's bad.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so he bought a turn table for me.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: But he what?
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: But just the other day we was talking and he was like, when you told me he wanted to be a DJ, I look at you aware, but as I still have to give you that support.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: He couldn't show it.
• 18:33
  Corie: Yeah, because I guess as parents want to discourage them.
• 18:36
  Corie: But he's a bit frightener.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was terrified, but he tell me about yeah, but I say by he probably thinking it's a a little a little phase I go into it.
• 18:44
  Corie: Like a hobby.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so he said by the time you do something, you realize why you ain't making no money, you'll be like, all right.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, let me get back on course.
• 18:51
  Corie: Hey, quick one before we get back into the conversation.
• 18:53
  Corie: You're always in the comments asking about part two, right?
• 18:56
  Corie: Guess where part two is now?
• 18:58
  Corie: It's on Patreon.
• 18:59
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• 19:03
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• 19:07
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• 19:15
  Corie: Bang.
• 19:16
  Corie: Yeah, that's one of the things that's tested to know.
• 19:17
  Corie: Because if you ain't making no money, you say you're sleeping on the ground.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like, no, but it a while I was making money, you know, but the passion that I have, I know it have something, a burning desire that I know I could achieve something on this side.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_00: Instead of going and I working for establishment and uh punctual video.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: I say, but I want to do my own thing.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you understand?
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_00: So I started reading and doing different research.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: I like, yeah, I want to be on job, I want to be in charge of my own life.
• 19:46
  Corie: Yeah, it's a funny thing.
• 19:48
  Corie: It's a funny thing because the thing about it is when you do when you make them sacrifices and thing.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:52
  Corie: And a lot of people will say, I'm sure you hear before ding dong bust, ding dong get through.
• 19:56
  Corie: We like get through here.
• 19:56
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:57
  Corie: I'm in get room.
• 19:58
  Corie: People might know it's it's five years overnight.
• 20:00
  Corie: And if you go and work in the oil, you might make the money.
• 20:03
  Corie: Yeah.
• 20:03
  Corie: But the happiness is never feel fulfilled.
• 20:05
  Corie: You know, it's happened to people who live their whole career then when you watch back.
• 20:09
  Corie: Yeah.
• 20:09
  Corie: Yeah.
• 20:09
  Corie: Me wait until I retire to do what I want to do.
• 20:12
  Corie: See, I don't work on my cataplum and thing already.
• 20:14
  Corie: I don't enjoy anything while you're doing it.
• 20:15
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 20:16
  Corie: So in the overnights, you're mixing, talking everything, or?
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: Nah, nah, that's mixing.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: That's mixing.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: So it was just music and it's just music, and just practicing that transition back then is a little skill.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_00: And right.
• 20:30
  Corie: And you're getting feedback from Chow and the owners of the station.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_00: No, I remember when you're when you're in that time of the night, Chow and really looking to get no feedback.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_00: You listening that time, you remember you getting up four o'clock in the morning, too.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: So by time I playing, you only four dream.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 20:50
  Corie: So, what changed after the five-year period?
• 20:52
  Corie: You're starting to see light.
• 20:53
  Corie: So you're playing out of the associate degree.
• 20:55
  Corie: That's why you're getting your mind.
• 20:55
  Corie: Yeah, you're not.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you remember I was the I was the second DJ.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_00: The assassin sing was mean.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: Well, third.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so between second and third.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I started.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I started doing the thing.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um I started doing more research.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: So, and now we know I remember them times bash men, but then after it started to have that little influx of newer music.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I I started to learn like the newer music.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: So I will be like the new kid on the block, the new school segment kind of.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: You go take that.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I go take that.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, with you.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: So in that period, I was just learning, but at the end of the day, is the the mindset behind what you're doing, eh?
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_05: Mm-hmm.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: Because I I being on the bench is a whole different scenario.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_00: For instance, Kobe, me, you know, a minute in the whole World Cup.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: So I was on the bench, but I was still smiling because I knew when I get that chance, I gone.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:53
  Corie: So you're on the bench and you're working too.
• 21:55
  Corie: Because you're making sure you're okay.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: I had to, I had to, because what people don't understand.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Is in the industry you had to be learning while you're going because remember now he's a kid and you had to learn what is taking place in and around the ecosystem with you.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: So when things arise, you could you know how to maneuver then you understand?
• 22:19
  Corie: So that's your real mentality then.
• 22:20
  Corie: That's you because when you see on social media, yeah, but that smile is making it look like you're getting over thing quick.
• 22:25
  Corie: Like if you've got nobody, it's not.
• 22:27
  Corie: Yeah, nothing.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I had a well, I would say I had a real hard upbringing.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: So anything going forward is just gravy for me.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: So I just thankful to just being here still, you understand?
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, wait, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_00: So it's real hard to throw me off or bother me.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_00: Because I ain't taken show.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: Why after I go through all that to come now for somebody to tell me something to feel out now, it didn't make sense.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: I see, yeah.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 22:52
  Corie: So after the five years, what has happened?
• 22:54
  Corie: How you end up transitioning now, or where the opportunity came from?
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: Well, um, boy, if I tell you, who could I go in and be real?
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: And up it are people, it's plenty of time people come on this podcast, and because we haven't a conversation, you would say things that would offend people that you would doubt, right?
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: Let me be real.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that realist.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: So in that period now, assassin you had a girlfriend, and she threw him off.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: So he takes up, he takes two months off.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man, bingo.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_00: I said, thank you, skinner for that.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but you get wrong.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, and then not two months, I blazed fire, by you.
• 23:46
  Corie: Nine to twelve.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, nine to twelve.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, nine to twelve.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_00: And remember them time and now I around and but you remember to be a wrong and not be a wrong the same thing.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: You just you just in the pocket.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_00: You ain't really saying too much, but you're doing what you had to do.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: So that was just my mood, and myself and Akil, we connected and I we had a nice vibe.
• 24:10
  Corie: So we started to move and it started to Because Associated Gree was around the um the song says something to the dub plate thing.
• 24:17
  Corie: It was kind of half and half.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, half and half.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_00: But we we we we we realized that you just need to have a few juggling dubs just to make sure the party nice.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's yeah.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: We wasn't really on cade to that song killing thing because you remember that era started to phase out, eh?
• 24:31
  Corie: Yeah, they did, did, did, did.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: And it's expensive too.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_00: And then after now, we trying to do parties and U Wee and trying to make people have fun.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, too.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_00: And playing and name calling and every minute, stopping and talking.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't really getting cool at that time.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: No, it was starting to face out for you.
• 24:45
  Corie: You know, it's funny, I was not watching an interview with um Bass Odyssey at Squingey, right?
• 24:51
  Corie: Yeah.
• 24:51
  Corie: And there was, well, Squingey passed away, but there was a man before him named Tina One.
• 24:55
  Corie: And he was talking about that, right?
• 24:56
  Corie: So Tina One saying he went on his states.
• 24:58
  Corie: He said, Boy, he started seeing buildings and things, bass odyssey go on for two months.
• 25:02
  Corie: He said he stayed for about a year.
• 25:04
  Corie: He never comes back with his sound.
• 25:06
  Corie: But he said them fellas and them good, so they go handle it down there.
• 25:08
  Corie: That's what he say make squingey get runo.
• 25:10
  Corie: Same exact story.
• 25:11
  Corie: He said, Boy, when I come back, they fire Squinge and Mark Blazing.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he cannot handle it.
• 25:16
  Corie: No, he just fade away.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_00: So what happened when Assassin come back?
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: No, but he's a real highly skilled.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: I learned a lot from him as well.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_00: But he but you remember by the time he comes back, I warm too.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_00: So you remember now.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_00: And here you take it, you could go with either or because at the end of the day, we put file in on all cylinders.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: So he does bring me up the mark.
• 25:36
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 25:37
  Corie: Which and Akil doesn't talk in them time.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: Remember them time, he's our favorite.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: That bad, bad, bad.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: Real under it.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_00: Real underrated.
• 25:44
  Corie: Salute to Akil.
• 25:45
  Corie: We had to get everybody who joined the church to come here one day and try to convince David to go to church in the way.
• 25:51
  Corie: But salute to him.
• 25:52
  Corie: So when you stayed with associate degree for some time, when did it sort of become ding dong on your own?
• 25:56
  Corie: And with the name Ding Dong, you is Ding Dong all then?
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_00: Since primary school.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_00: Seriously.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_00: So would the name come up?
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we were doing some rhyming in school.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: So it was Ming Ting Sing, and I was I say ding.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: And somebody said dong, and the whole class went off, and the name stick from there.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, all right, cool.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_00: Real thing.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, real ding.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: So it was never ding dong, Jamaica, ding dong.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: No, I didn't know he them time.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: No, you couldn't know him them time in primary school.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, I always thought that people usually think that.
• 26:23
  Corie: Like you took the name from Bill.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_00: Nah, I didn't.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: Nah, nah.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: I am a name before him.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, I got you, I got you.
• 26:28
  Corie: So he's ding dong.
• 26:28
  Corie: So when it started become on your own with outside of socialism.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you remember now it had a period where Mark got shot and then he was hospitalized for a while.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_00: So that kind of mashed up the thing.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_00: I see, yeah.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_00: So that was that was a kind of tragic situation that had my my back against the wall.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: So I had to show some resilience in that time.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_00: So them times I go in and I playing out with different MCs trying to To see who I could get a chemistry with.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_00: So that time, but it was it was a it was a it was a rough period, but still I made it through.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_00: And them times now I started playing for artists.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_00: So the first artist I played for was Swappy.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_00: And Swappy had a nice three years.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: So real nice that time is.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's early swappy.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_00: Early early swappy, early swappy.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: So then after I start, because yeah, yeah, what I realized too.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, my man minding my business, I looking and I learned.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_00: Remember with all the kicks, it's a serious thing, eh?
• 27:30
  Corie: Evidently.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so with all the kicks, I was doing my homework.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: So when men watching and thinking, I laughing, you remember.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_00: I was a student at the game, so I watching and learning.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: But you remember now with the whole personality, you know what showing you off with a whole gig.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_00: So you're thinking, well, like, irresponsible, yeah.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember too when I haven't conversations, I ain't talking nothing with no sort of substance.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, his whole talk.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_00: So that time now I realize whole yeah, we playing out, we are clubs, but through cannibal, it started.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_00: I had to figure out a way to get in.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: Come gal and more laughter.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: So you remember it's them big fat on them, you're getting 15 minutes before the band changes.
• 28:22
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 28:22
  Corie: And nobody ain't taking your own.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_00: And then a man knocking a sneer in your head.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's difficult.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_00: And you remember them time, and it don't have no set of recording now.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_00: So, like if it's now on a band show, I go and pre-record my thing and I press play so I ain't gonna try.
• 28:38
  Corie: Right.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: But them timing now, when you just see the bag and you listen and you hear a man pressing a sample in your ears, and then a sneer, and then you hear men talking because it's the band is what people are there for.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_00: The band, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man, and then when you playing your music low, low low.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_00: You're frustrated, you're telling the engineer, push up the engineer, watching like little boy.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: And the DJ was a side.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the DJ was that.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_00: That's no respect for that.
• 29:00
  Corie: No, no, no, that's true.
• 29:00
  Corie: That's true.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: This can't be it, boy.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't like the feeling at all.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: I say now about you.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: So them times now, the ban on them started to phase out.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_00: So I get in swappy ears now.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: I say, bro, I have it.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: So when we started off now, the track show was amazing because I do no kind of transition, I looping, I doing this.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_00: So now then Marshall said, yeah, yeah, but you songin' like a band.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_00: I say, well, I'll try, you know, because I need to get that little money wrong cann't even.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_00: So then after now, swappy, I play for Marshall for a little bit.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: But you remember the way he does things and the way I do things is two different things, so we clashing.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_03: It's observed.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_00: He was like, alright, I want one, two, three, four.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_00: Again, you four, five, six.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: But you remember I thought I was in control them time.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_00: But you remember it's different to work with an artist, artists.
• 30:05
  Corie: Yeah, I know what you mean.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_00: So, you remember, he he fully rehearsed, right?
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_00: So you can't read it.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_00: You can't move it.
• 30:14
  Corie: I understand.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_00: So when I did that the first show, he was like, we cool in her because he ain't go kill her wrong and say, But we're doing after the show.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_00: Now we come and tell me, you're not listening, you're doing your own thing.
• 30:30
  Corie: But sometimes he's still wrong and tell people on the stage, yeah.
• 30:33
  Corie: You'll remember.
• 30:34
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, but he had he had a respect for me because we're got a great relationship.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_00: We go talk about that later.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, good.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_00: He was like, you're not listening.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_00: This is not swapping, you know.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_00: I said the boss.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, all right, cool, cool, cool.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: But I realize, you remember now with with with with with swapping out, I'm in charge of the creative side.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_00: Gotcha.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_00: So I think in my man gonna listen song, so I will listen out any BPM and come down the road.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_00: But he now he's starting fast, then going slow, then coming back fast.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_00: So he has a whole different engine.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_00: But I know now he just creates different moods for the show.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_00: He knows we're going for it.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_00: He knows we going forward.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: So now now, like like swappy, I will bring it from slow to fast, fast to slow.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: Now he thing all over the place.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_00: But he understands he method to his madness.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, of course.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_00: So that then really, but you remember now he has his band, so I'm not trying to align myself with him in there because he's a band showman.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_00: So if I I could have aligned myself with him in there, but I could have ended up with four shows for the season and I put back myself in the same boat.
• 31:40
  Corie: Yeah, and you can't do nothing else.
• 31:42
  Corie: I can't do nothing else.
• 31:43
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_00: So I say, nah, boy, I feel this is not his ship, yeah.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_00: I do so now I see Bungie.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_00: I say, Bungie.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: There is it.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_00: So them times they know.
• 31:55
  Corie: So you've done with swapy them time?
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_00: No, well, remember, Swapy kinda.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you kinda fade a little bit.
• 32:00
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_00: So them time I work in for swappy.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_00: You remember you know come out two weeks.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_00: He charges 2,500, 3,000.
• 32:06
  Corie: Right, yeah.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_00: So them times I work in for 200,000 but I go in tock and I buying clothes and I look in the part, eh?
• 32:10
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't really catch myself financially them time because I want to look depart.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I gotta pay 200 them time, eh?
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but sometimes at 300 based on the swap, you have about 400 dancers them time.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_00: So that's how much come up.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I'm just taking about 2500.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_00: No, you remember you working for 3,000.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_00: You have a manager.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_00: Which was Marlon at the time.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_00: And then you have about four dancers.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_00: Then me.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_03: Then money cut in no.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody, everybody face pull.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_00: So I went through that phase because them time now, Marlon going England and buying all kind of light up suit for Swappy.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_00: So when you see Swapy, he up.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_00: You watching him like, ooh, who is this avatar?
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_00: So we went through that phase.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_00: So I bung some bungee now.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, bungee, I have a show in Tobago.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_00: I need a DJ, yeah, man.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_00: A day.
• 33:07
  Corie: Well, he's just telling you that.
• 33:08
  Corie: Go to the blue backstage somewhere.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: No backstage I see him.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_00: See them.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_00: You have a show in um Tobago now.
• 33:13
  Corie: Yeah, man.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_00: But you have a show in Tobago, but you have no DJ.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm nay no more.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_00: I say, alright.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_00: Repetition, good.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_00: Remember them time, man.
• 33:27
  Corie: Yeah, it's radio by playing out.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_00: Radio and playing out on him.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_00: I used to give everybody the full support.
• 33:33
  Corie: On air.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_00: On air.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_00: So I giving you your full support and I send in your content too.
• 33:37
  Corie: Alright, good.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_00: Because you remember I really love the music.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love the music too.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: So I aligning myself, you remember the end of the day.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody just tell you to go to school, learn, get subject, get a degree.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_00: But at the end of the day, nobody never tells you to align yourself properly.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 33:54
  Corie: 100%.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_00: 100%.
• 33:55
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 33:56
  Corie: That's critical.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_00: Critical.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_00: That's dead serious.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: So on it bunch, you know, we ain't talking no money thing.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_00: So 100 bunch, you know, we cut the show.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_00: Give me the list.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we flow nice.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_00: I ain't making no mistake of watching the artist because to play for artists versus playing in a in a party is two different playing.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_00: Remember, you could play and you're going towards crowd reaction, but you have to go.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_00: When you're playing with an artist now, you're going towards body language.
• 34:24
  Corie: Of the artists or the crowd?
• 34:25
  Corie: Of the artist.
• 34:26
  Corie: I understand.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_00: Now you're cast on your crowd, you have to watch he.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_00: I can't watch the crowd after all.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_00: You have to watch he so dead serious.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_00: Every time he chef, so you have to be he had to be on point.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_00: So real, real, real nice chemistry.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_00: So I went from 200 and then Monji and 800.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I bumbo.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_00: Rich.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_00: Four show.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, 800.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_00: I mean I way, where's this?
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_00: Then after he called me for the next show.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_00: And next eight man, nah.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_00: I buy a laptop.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: I started taking the thing serious.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_00: I started building through.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_00: I started put little drops.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_00: Boy, the band scene, man, watching my cut eye because them timing now.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_00: I running so smooth and seamless.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: And you remember trouble some too.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: You remember day, but another day.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember Faye as well.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_00: She was a part.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_00: She's the boss lady.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_00: So to be in that space now and and conduct yourself properly, you had to know where you're doing.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_00: So boy, we started to do show like rain.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_00: So then now we f so it's nine years I was at the with Bungie and Faye and nine years.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_00: So we went all over the world.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_00: We did all kinds of shows.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_00: So I had a lot of experience living through them vicariously.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: Understand?
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, of course.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_00: So like when I started singing now, it come like I'm going back around the same course.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: But remember them would be a lot further than me.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_00: Because we do, we did like that European tour.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_00: So there's like Germany, them kind of places, Norway, and them kind of weird places we went to.
• 36:09
  Corie: Daddy must be happy now.
• 36:10
  Corie: You realize this thing.
• 36:11
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_00: So that whole period with them was a real great experience.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_00: Because you know, everybody will have the two cents about Faye and how she this way and she that way.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_00: At the end of the day, when you come out and you do what you have to do, and you functioning towards the cause, which is the business of the both artists, you have no problem.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: I ain't trying to mind the business.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_00: I ain't trying to say what's going on here.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_00: I do what I do, I get paid.
• 36:40
  Corie: Right.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_00: So when she when she started, well, them time and was panting.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_00: So when she sa when she took over, she raised my pay.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_00: Oh good.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_03: We love it fair now.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_00: I love she.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_00: I can't say nothing bad about she.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: She raised me by 200.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she now take a thousand.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, father.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_00: Because all them time, and the overnight, it propelled to this.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_00: So is a is a whole full circle.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_00: So all them time now.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_00: So I get the thousand I show now.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_00: So when we do the thousand I show now, him and I yeah, that year he we got it had a it had a year we do like sixty shows.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_00: Remember that age and you get sixty.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna pay one time align it.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_00: I pile up lump sum.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, lump sum.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_00: When she signed that check and game I watched and she likes she show.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, boy.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_00: Uh 60 yeah.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_00: I take picture the check all kind of thing.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_00: I still have it on my phone till today.
• 37:46
  Corie: But Maxi, before you go back to that, the band, because you come in at that time where the band, well, when I was fetted, there was bands.
• 37:53
  Corie: You used to say a fet is a ban event, right?
• 37:55
  Corie: And it transitions to mostly DJs.
• 37:57
  Corie: So you say the little thing between you and the band was the seeing uh the seeing where the DJs gonna tell a takeover.
• 38:02
  Corie: That was the tension with you and the band, or just as an outsider.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_00: No, well, you remember the band seeing how we sounding.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_00: And the thing about the being an artist and being on stage is the transitions where people has been listening for.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_00: How you go in from songs to songs.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_00: You remember when you're doing it seamless, like how the band is, and you're still giving them the drops.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_00: And like when you're talking, you're going low and you hire different loops.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_00: So we had that chemistry now.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_00: So you could have go low and he could have chant and a catching him back just like I button.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like before the whole technology of course change now became available for the DJ.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_00: So right now you could song like a A button man on a Sarato, you know?
• 38:45
  Corie: Yeah.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_00: Because of the the whole STEM package that they put now.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_00: So I could song seamless on a serato.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_00: And then now I started to remaster all the stuff.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_00: So we sang loud, and then after now, I realized from being on that DJ deck now, I had to talk to the engineer.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, in I started getting my own line.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_00: So we was as loud as the bands.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 39:10
  Corie: So you're solving your problem from bands.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: I'm solving my problem from a long time.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_00: So when I go and I get my DJ line, so I do the song check and I get my DJ line, I tell him, push them up.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I still pushing my little line.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_00: Or we serato.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 39:22
  Corie: Yeah, so it got the vibe and dipping now.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_00: So the vibe and dipping.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_00: So we we we we we started to do things real different.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_00: So and then after now, when it's just three of us to fly versus a whole band.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's at certain times the band flying and she's still flying me.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_00: Just in case.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_00: And it had a it had a time.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna get this one.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_00: The band set up, right?
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_00: The band set up to do a show.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_00: But one man missing the baseman going shopping, but he does her no credit, and he in New York.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_00: So nobody can't get on time.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I always have a bag on my back because just in case.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_00: They can't find them, so the band can't strike up.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she now.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man, father God.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_00: So while I line up there now, is about is about seven man watching me come time.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_03: Whoa, this show wanna go on.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_00: You sure have to go on.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_00: The basement not there, what they want me to do.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_00: So I go on and I strike up, you know.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_00: I do the show, them watch the them watch the show.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_03: I say, Well yeah, men must be happy.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_00: But then I then I didn't reach that part where thousand in Trinidad translate a thousand in US.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, so it's good thousand, proper thousand, it's not the colorful thousand.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, they get time for that lady.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_00: When you do your work, she go pay.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 41:01
  Corie: So the Viking pick up from that.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so it it went in it went in increments.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: It was five, seven, thousand.
• 41:08
  Corie: Nice.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_00: And podium.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: But then after now, you remember moving to them.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_00: So when they're meeting, I eat, and so I'm holding back my my podium.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_00: No God, I doing the right thing.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_00: So as she say, mall time, I could be how tired I get now because I know it's a food after mall.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I could say so it comes like my podium is hundred dollars a day.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_00: So by the time you go out somewhere, and you had to you had to include travel this.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_00: So it comes like 300.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_00: So it comes like I 13, and then I sell my thing for 7.5.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_00: A bad.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_00: So it was a real nice period.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_05: Uh-huh.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_00: It was a real nice period with the Vikings them diamond.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_00: Because we did a lot of shows.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um we we we cover a lot of ground.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_00: We I see different walks of life.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_00: I see, I see everything under the sun musically.
• 42:09
  Corie: Right.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_00: We went to BT, that was a real nice experience.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_00: I even played for Shenzia.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_00: Who about talking a little music right now?
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_00: But we ain't gonna go there.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_00: I played for her, and she was, and in that moment, Shen, I played for Shenzia on that BT platform, and Shenzia was scared as hell.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: And then I was like, she kind of gave me the confidence too.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_00: Because when I played, I said, Nah, you go back map, right?
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_00: And you go, and you go do this, and you go.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_00: So she comes down to DJ or and so on how she.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_00: No, I remember it's LA.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember you, yeah.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_00: Remember, she didn't really solidify herself yet to the soymin.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_00: So she really that big yet.
• 42:45
  Corie: Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_00: So when I play in this song, I think and I vibing in the back.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_00: So that was a viral moment.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_00: And everybody was like, they they commend how I behave and how everything happened in the background there.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_00: So I said, nah.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_00: I go in and say, because I seen the little girl shaking.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_00: Shaken, I talking about shaking, scared and scared, scared, scared, scared.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, nah.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_00: Give me the confidence.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_00: I said, nah, I go in and start.
• 43:10
  Corie: Mm-hmm.
• 43:11
  Corie: Yeah, if she could do it shaken.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, if she could do it shaken, but I remember now.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_00: How she looking too.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's a help.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's a help.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_00: Remember everybody looking at she.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_00: But remember them time and now I didn't really start the fitness journey, so I kind of saw her.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, so them time and now I didn't really put my health into perspective.
• 43:39
  Corie: Yeah, you and Nigel are walking every day.
• 43:41
  Corie: Nah, we were every day, no.
• 43:43
  Corie: Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
• 43:45
  Corie: But even before you go down that road, too.
• 43:46
  Corie: Some of the things with the names.
• 43:47
  Corie: When you're when you're going out there as ding dong touring now, is it ever had any static from Jamaica Ding Dong?
• 43:52
  Corie: Is that never a good thing?
• 43:54
  Corie: Never song together.
• 43:54
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_00: We're cool, we cool, we cool.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_00: Because I knew him from before now, because remember, Bond used to be Jamaica a lot, so we we see each other and everybody like ding ding ding.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_00: So it's cool.
• 44:04
  Corie: Gotcha.
• 44:04
  Corie: And the name Viking Ding Dong, just add one from when he was playing with.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so well I remember now.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_00: I know I wanted to start singing.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I can't go out as ding dong playing.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_00: It would be like, which ding dong?
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_00: So I being aligned to the Vikings.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_00: I just put that in front to just show a little bit of context and to show that a little diversity and it's a different ding dong versus the Jamaican ding.
• 44:29
  Corie: Right.
• 44:29
  Corie: Okay, which true, with you.
• 44:31
  Corie: Don't forget you could also reach out to us to advertise on the show and have your brand place here, anywhere here.
• 44:37
  Corie: You could get your brand.
• 44:38
  Corie: So don't just call to get on the show, right?
• 44:40
  Corie: We'll call and get you on the show to we know you have big brands and you do great work in this country.
• 44:44
  Corie: But don't forget you could also advertise with us to help support the stories of our countries and our region going out to everybody.
• 44:52
  Corie: Help you out.
• 44:54
  Corie: Just call your friend, don't just call David to come on the show.
• 44:56
  Corie: And advertise, you know, I mean pay, spell.
• 44:59
  Corie: How are we going?
• 45:00
  Corie: Which way are we going back?
• 45:01
  Corie: How does it go?
• 45:02
  Corie: Back this way.
• 45:03
  Corie: Back to the conversation.
• 45:04
  Corie: So even all this time, you know, man, I realize you do your match, you know, you just do your home mode.
• 45:07
  Corie: So you're watching Bungie and them on tour.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 45:10
  Corie: With singing in mind.
• 45:12
  Corie: You absorbing what you could absorb from.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, my sense of DJing, I absorb in that whole singing mental.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, remember you only watching live shows, watching how artists projecting, delivery, vocal.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_00: So it's different things.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: I pay attention to it.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_00: In terms of vocals.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yes.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_00: Now I started practicing more intense because I realizing that alrighty.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_00: Are closer than before.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_00: So every year I just work and try to diversify the music or the what I sing about.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_00: And then I also take a song which actually challenges the vocals.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_00: Deliberately, is that.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, deliberately.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_00: So after that particular season, the vocal, you remember the the this part of the the vocal.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_00: The vocal box is a is a muscle.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_00: So the more you use it, it'll get stronger.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_00: So I started doing that deliberately to strengthen the vocal chain.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_00: So apart from that, I started doing vocal warm-ups.
• 46:24
  Corie: Before your show.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_00: Nah, I now start that.
• 46:26
  Corie: Okay, okay, you're doing it now.
• 46:27
  Corie: Yeah.
• 46:28
  Corie: That's amazing to hear you say no start that.
• 46:30
  Corie: Because boy, you come out of the gate with your vocals banging and I used to I always practicing and I I It has a whole.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_00: I just started singing from September.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_00: So by the time I reach the shows, I in key with all my songs.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_00: So I will be, I would do like 400 bars before the actual season.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_00: So I already know how I want to be on stage.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's a whole, it's plenty, you know.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_00: People look at it and mean like, he's a DJ.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_00: By the time he plays a song, everybody's gonna know.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's not like that.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's a plenty of DJs who singing who never make it.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_00: So you can't hang and say and call my thing lucky and bide it with.
• 47:09
  Corie: Well, the thing about it is consistency because it you could say that in the first few years.
• 47:13
  Corie: Yeah.
• 47:13
  Corie: You know what I mean?
• 47:14
  Corie: And plus he's laugh plenty too.
• 47:15
  Corie: So men don't feel a jokey.
• 47:16
  Corie: Yeah.
• 47:17
  Corie: So when people coming off of that shin C deciding what, you're gonna produce a song, you're gonna make your own song, or you're singing people's song, what you wanted to do coming from that moment.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_00: Well, coming from that moment, I say I wanted to show them I actually could hold my key, which was the first part.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_00: So I did a song written by voice.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, now I'm gonna tell you how that came about.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_00: My first song was Stay Lane, which was a dancehall, which was on each other, bong show them.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_00: It was a dance hall written by voice.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_00: So how that came about was I had a show in Zen.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_00: And we brought Ding Dong.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_00: So it was Ding Dong versus Ding Dong.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_00: So it was DJ versus the artist Ding Dong.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_00: Right, yeah.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_00: So them time you have his nice, you have a nice little flow.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_00: Catalogue coming.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_00: Catalogue nice.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_00: So the show now, we're trying to get somebody to sing the ad.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_00: Because them time and them ads and them singing the ad was the end thing.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_00: So that Tim Tim and them, them singing everything.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_05: Right, right.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_00: So we ain't getting nobody to sing the ad.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_00: Voice, voice right the ad.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_00: So I say by nobody ain't singing the ad, I go and sing it.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_00: Call Nikolai, Nikolai Green, going up in the studio.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_00: When we sing in this singing the ad, yeah, man.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_00: Nah, they are a song.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_00: For you see, we need a second verse.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_00: So nobody's surprised at this time, Nikola and them know you could sing.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_00: Who knows you could sing?
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_00: Nah, nobody knows I know so you can sing.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_00: I just go in with it.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_00: Vibes, alright.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_00: Go in with vibes.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_00: So then now Nikola, when we record it, is our song.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_00: Promotion artist.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_00: I start to feel myself.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, at the end of the day, remember from being around everybody.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_00: I learn you can't get too hype and get caught up any moment.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_00: So as much as you're excited, be excited in your heart.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_00: But do not project that energy outwards because they were crucified.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_00: Seriously.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_00: You can't be too excited out here.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_00: No, out here in design for that, brother.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_00: I'm telling you.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_00: So I keep it as well.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_00: You have to keep it close to your chest.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_00: Keep it close to your chest.
• 49:34
  Corie: So what's the response again to the song at that point?
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_00: Nah, but real, real good response.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody sing in all the stations because I remember now I have a great relationship with all these stations.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_00: There was never no I work in here now.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_00: Less than I always learn from a youth to treat everybody with respect.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_00: It could be from the janitor to the CEO.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_00: Full respect cross the board.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_00: So I show everybody respect.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_00: So everybody show me that respect and give me back that love in and in Yeah.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_00: Love.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_00: But love.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_00: So when I did that, no, that was a dancehole, but remember the dancehole wasn't my actual passion to really come through the gate.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_00: So then after now, I go on my voice again.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_00: I say, I could do it a song.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_00: So Nikola again, you have a rhythm.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_00: So voice, voice had a song on the rhythm, and he was like, nah, I can't singing this.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_00: And he was like, Alright, pay me for it.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_00: I said, alright, no problem.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_00: I pay for the song.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't, it was a song to show where your vocals are.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_00: There's no no hype up song.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_00: Real groovy groovy.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_00: You can't make no money from that.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_00: You could sing it, and everybody go like, hey, you have a voice, man.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, cool.
• 50:47
  Corie: But your home and booking time coming home.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_00: No, not a show.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_00: No, it had it had different types of song.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's true.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_00: So when I do that now, boy, I sing, everybody like, yeah, yeah, boy, your song ain't good.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_00: I say, alright, cool.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_00: So you remember different steps to come into the thing.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_00: So I do the little dance, so everybody say, Alright, yeah, you could do the thing.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_00: So the second phase was showing your ability to actually sing the song and perform the song.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_00: So that was that second phase.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_00: But you remember no show.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's only a friend of them show like Second Sunday, he fit your mana.
• 51:27
  Corie: Right.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_00: He brings them out, and I was, I guess, some love.
• 51:30
  Corie: Right.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_00: But nobody knows saying, Yeah, a water song ever fit.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_00: Your home.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you home, sweet home.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_00: So at that point now, Faye was like, dude, you're getting serious with the singing thing.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I like it.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she now you have to choose.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but now, Godfather.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_03: She played.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody remember now.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_00: Back then when she told me that I have to choose, I was like, wait, but as I saw the singer telling me to choose.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_00: But I didn't look at it from her perspective.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_00: Because you remember now, if I sing in and she has a show, I can't leave.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_00: She hang up.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, wait, but I take a little while to understand it, eh?
• 52:12
  Corie: Yeah, it didn't feel good any moment.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_00: It didn't feel good any moment.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, oh God, boy.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_00: Mostly they be going good all the time.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_00: We never had no problem, girl.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_00: Or you tell her my choose now.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_00: I pull back.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_00: I message all girl in.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_00: Boy, look, she tells me to choose, boy.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_00: Here, girl and talk to Sheena.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but wise man.
• 52:32
  unknown: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_00: Talk to her.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_00: So at that moment, I realize is either take it serious or I miss my bag.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_00: Because I remember I don't have a bag again.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, of course.
• 52:44
  Corie: 60,000.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, boy.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_00: She tells my truth.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_00: But I also knew that if I fail on this side, I can always go back.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yes.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_00: But I totally erase that side of going back.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_00: Because I remember I want to evolve into something.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_00: I want to put that 60 into 120.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_03: You understand?
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, I better done myself.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_00: Alright.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_00: Take it, I take it serious.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she na no problem.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_00: Say, way.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_00: All them time and deep inside, I ain't feeling too good on her because you remember now.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_00: I had to do my thing on my own now.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_00: And I was already in a comfort zone.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_00: But I remember I can't be comfortable.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_00: At that figure, going forward, you remember her bills, our kids.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_00: So the 60 now started to break up in school fees now.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_00: So the 60s started to get smaller in the pie chart.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man, how could I do more for myself at this moment.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_00: Because I remember them at the 60s, no kind of thing.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_00: 60 is mine.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_00: So now in that period now, I'm feeling good and I'm telling you.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_00: But I had no choice.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_00: So that's why there's no true character coming out of situations like that.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_00: So now I go on my second stand.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_00: Because after the first song I sing, he gave me that whole platform with his second Sundays.
• 54:11
  Corie: Right.
• 54:12
  Corie: And it's a complete cutoff from Viking and not playing with them no more.
• 54:15
  Corie: No, no more.
• 54:15
  Corie: Okay.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_00: Because I remember now I singing and doing my thing.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_00: So she's saying she had to secure her side as well.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you say it in the beginning, no, no, it's a business.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_00: It's a business.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_00: I think a while to understand, but you remember now I still I still have it in my mind that but I'm a girl, but I know friend thing in business.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_00: I understand what you mean, yeah.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_00: So at that point now, I go on my second side rhythm.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_00: I the big ride with them.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_00: She like, man, man.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_00: So I call motor.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_00: I say, but I like this with him.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_00: I go on my second star.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_00: I say, we could come on this.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_00: I knew you rhythm bad because I DJ juggle and you read them on the radio and thing.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_00: Second star say, boy, I knew I nothing here, man.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_00: Oh boy.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_00: You are creative.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_00: Look, I said DJ, and I do have no writing ability, and I could hear two little words.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_00: I say, alright, cool.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_00: So he took me to Mikal Tasia.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_00: Go down by studio.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_00: Go down by arm.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_00: Mikal System 32.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_00: Play the rhythm.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody shaking their head.
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like we go read somewhere.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_00: Half an hour between shaking your head and Bobin and weaved for half an hour.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody thinking.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_01: Dead silence in the studio now.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_01: I ain't hear nothing, but me know you ain't hearing nothing, my.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_00: So that period now I was like, I feel people don't like to write on people beating her.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's my biggest.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_00: I say, I think they the problem here.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_00: I realize there's a royalty.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_00: Take an aspect thing.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_00: So I I was like, What?
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_00: What going on here?
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_00: I said, What you have?
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_00: Then he the whole room light up again.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean I.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_00: Oh.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody don't like to write on nobody's song.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody knows them like problems.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_00: The room light up.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_00: He played the knockabout room, which was the outside.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_00: So he played the first 20 seconds of the song.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_00: So everybody watching me weird because you remember you watching me as this glad man from the radio, or them radio man signed to sing them time, and everybody singing.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_00: So you watching me like on to you.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you're gone.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_00: But I know why I listening for.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_00: So now we record the song.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_01: So the song have various artists.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_01: Rhythm drop now.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_01: Two weeks, I gone.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_00: You watching me as I obey a man.
• 56:56
  Corie: And you're going all wrong, right?
• 56:57
  Corie: All stations, everybody playing.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_00: I tell you, I gone, I gone.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_00: They're calling me for show like rain.
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_00: Hello?
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_00: Hi, yeah.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_00: And sign.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_00: So them times now, I doing everything for myself.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_00: I was my booking agent, I'm my manager, I everything.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_00: So now my mom was on the road, they'll be happy with this.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_00: So I took him everywhere with me that that season.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_00: And then now from that, we built a real serious bun.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, relationship.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_00: But then after COVID, putum, yeah, man.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, COVID would be right after that.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_00: So right after you catch that.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_00: Right after I was outside, I was inside.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_00: I said, way.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_00: But now, so you get to tell the song?
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_00: Because after I went one show, one show.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_00: I tell I reached New York, the first show the book man.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_00: I said, oh, I go make some US.
• 57:58
  Corie: It's seen the one twenty years.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_00: Boom, one show.
• 58:04
  Corie: Yes, sir.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_00: Two so now do the one show going home.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_00: I say, alright.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_00: The talk pandemic, blah, blah, blah.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_00: Two weeks I go blow off.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_00: I see month, two months, yeah, man.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's serious, boy.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_00: Three months.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_00: My money started dry up.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_00: Four months, five months, yeah, man.
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_00: I started selling fish now.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_00: I started roast fish.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_00: No real, I tell you.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_03: Who might you do?
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_00: I started cut up okrew and carrot and onion and pudding fish belly and roast fish and foil.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_00: No, I tell you, it was serious.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_00: Back then, creative in our say.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_00: You know, nothing.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_00: Because social distancing and his all them fancy words.
• 58:56
  Corie: Of course, of course.
• 58:57
  Corie: Yeah, they didn't see you know, end to the pandemic, they ain't know when they go in.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_00: And remember our borders were locked down fully, eh?
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_00: And not to say go out or come.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it didn't.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_00: It was according to that old meme, it wasn't looking good.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't looking good.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_00: So I sat a I sat a roast fish.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_00: So them roast fish now.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_00: I sat to accumulate a little 1500 and a little 1600.
• 59:20
  Corie: So where you're selling this, you just sat a group and things, you just let people know you're selling.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_00: No, well, I had a good friend by the name of Truth.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_00: He was uh he used to sell clothes and things, so if he had a nice little area in enterprise.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, nice.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_00: But I sat a season, and if you see me, my hand dig up because only fish bone chuck in me.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_00: But I like and I don't like money, I need money bad.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_00: Because my bad them time, no, you ain't even on the radio, it's half baby because it's not no sponsor.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_00: Of course.
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_00: It was all how.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_03: Of course.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_00: And then two I do so now when I jump out myself.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_00: I I always better than myself.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_00: I do so now in that time and the during that pandemic, TSS come up on my money.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_00: People go watch it as ignorant.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_01: I have fifty thousand I fifty thousand and a man telling me ten thousand and again sixty.
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_00: I told him they said have one hand, two hand, three hand, four and five hands.
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_01: I say, boy.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_01: What to do here now?
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_01: What do you think I did?
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_03: I feel it by one hand.
• 1:01:00
  SPEAKER_00: I buy five hands.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_00: I bought five hands, yeah, man.
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_00: I rich.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_03: How much sixty again?
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_01: By zero.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody, everybody who I told about what I'm about to do, they tell them I'm mad.
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_00: But I so believe in myself.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_00: I say, but if I can catch them in this and so I sort of split up the honor.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_00: Why not a dollar, my brother?
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm not.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_01: Oh god.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_00: And them diamond now you're hearing.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_00: Well look, the child needs milk pain one here by DSS.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_00: Right, I tell you if you bingo, everybody good.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_00: I levan.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_00: Alright.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_00: As always.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_00: I live on alone.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, Tasia.
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_00: I can't next idea.
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_00: You remember them, them kind of struggle as Bill.
• 1:02:08
  SPEAKER_00: Character, right?
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, better Bill.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I said, Tasia boy.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_00: Let me start doing ads for them companies.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_00: They need some ads.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_00: So we started off with Digicel.
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_00: For is the first one.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_00: You remember them never asked me for no ad.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_00: I pitched in my ad.
• 1:02:23
  Corie: Alright, alright.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_00: So I watching the campaign now on TV and Mallin.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_00: Come up with something.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_00: Come up with something.
• 1:02:28
  SPEAKER_00: Go on down my Tasia.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_00: So I just asking who I could send the ad to.
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_00: Because nobody asked me for no ad.
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_00: I cannot produce the whole ad and everybody said, What are you doing?
• 1:02:38
  SPEAKER_00: I send the ad, the love it.
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man, I lie.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_00: There's about six ads we do.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_00: Serious.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_00: One six ads.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_00: And then I'd split in three ways between me, Tasia, and the producer.
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_00: I said, Tasha, while everybody not singing, let us produce music like it have a cannival.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_00: So by the time the cannival starts back, we on the right foot.
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_00: And at the end of the day, who was with them during the pandemic, they're gonna remember them after the pandemic.
• 1:03:06
  SPEAKER_00: You know, right after the pandemic, I come and catch drink and party it, get a corn, get a father cord.
• 1:03:14
  SPEAKER_00: A corn my way.
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_00: So all the money I was a DSS I make back.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_03: I say good in betterness.
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_00: I better myself.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_00: But let me more inside before.
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_00: They call me for a hand on her.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't get through the hand in her.
• 1:03:29
  SPEAKER_00: But I did carry somebody's money.
• 1:03:32
  SPEAKER_00: So it was a pregnant lady, and she she had a miscarriage and she had to do a surgery.
• 1:03:37
  SPEAKER_00: So the man say, Come for your hand.
• 1:03:41
  SPEAKER_00: But that same time the guilt tell me about that story.
• 1:03:44
  SPEAKER_00: So I say, well, why didn't I be car five hand?
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_00: Licks.
• 1:03:51
  SPEAKER_00: Licks.
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_00: But at the end of the day, it was a good gesture.
• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_00: So at the end of the day.
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_00: Blessings must come.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_00: The blessings must come.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_00: As the pandemic done by catching them a drink and party.
• 1:04:02
  SPEAKER_00: They act like it had no other song that yeah.
• 1:04:04
  Corie: Yeah, boy.
• 1:04:05
  Corie: Yeah, boy.
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_00: Everywhere I sing.
• 1:04:08
  Corie: Fett rode everywhere.
• 1:04:09
  SPEAKER_00: Everywhere.
• 1:04:11
  Corie: So Jolie Mark's nuts.
• 1:04:12
  Corie: You're talking about that.
• 1:04:13
  Corie: Because I didn't realize that when you catch a lengthy first time, it wasn't much performances at the time.
• 1:04:17
  Corie: No, no, no.
• 1:04:18
  Corie: But it feels to me, right?
• 1:04:19
  Corie: I see two things from you.
• 1:04:20
  Corie: The first thing I see was when he was on stage, right?
• 1:04:22
  Corie: Because again, I like I like everybody else.
• 1:04:24
  Corie: I watch another DJ singing, right?
• 1:04:25
  Corie: I say but your voice.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:04:28
  Corie: Because I want to say without getting into much trouble here that all the DJs who sing your vocals is the best.
• 1:04:33
  Corie: I hear.
• 1:04:34
  Corie: Yeah.
• 1:04:34
  Corie: Ever since.
• 1:04:35
  Corie: Ever since I heard DJ singing.
• 1:04:36
  Corie: DJ singing is not today.
• 1:04:37
  Corie: That longed time.
• 1:04:38
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:39
  Corie: So you you this it stood out.
• 1:04:41
  Corie: But I didn't realize that you didn't perform the song much.
• 1:04:43
  Corie: So your stage presence and thing, where where you get that from?
• 1:04:46
  Corie: Because to me, from the first time I see you on a stage, you're looking comfortable.
• 1:04:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because I used to watch all these stage shows them time in.
• 1:04:54
  SPEAKER_00: And then I wrong Bungie and Faye and remember them is them is the top tier.
• 1:04:59
  Corie: Yeah, it's funny.
• 1:05:00
  SPEAKER_00: And remember I always observing, so remember the martial, everybody always observing and learning.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_00: If you come by me on my YouTube, it's only live showing.
• 1:05:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:05:08
  SPEAKER_00: Study.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's only live show and studying projection, where to go low, where to talk here, how to interact.
• 1:05:16
  SPEAKER_00: You remember this thing, everybody looking at it as fun and kicks, but this thing is an art.
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_00: So by doing that now, it's helping.
• 1:05:26
  SPEAKER_00: And remember, I always practicing to sing in different notes and different keys and always trying to change up my voice.
• 1:05:33
  SPEAKER_00: So when you hear a track from me, you had a question it.
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_00: Because you know I not song in the same.
• 1:05:40
  Corie: And you just hold the vocals.
• 1:05:41
  Corie: Because we outside is not no easy song to sing for people who never sing.
• 1:05:44
  Corie: Are you holding the outside for the colours?
• 1:05:47
  SPEAKER_00: So when I got that song, I was only practicing the chorus because that is the part everybody's saying you can't get.
• 1:05:52
  SPEAKER_00: So everybody saying, Alright, we go out to tune here and melody here, and we go fix you and pull you and tug you.
• 1:05:57
  SPEAKER_00: But at the end of the day, When the poly and talk you, when you're live, everybody looking for that note for the pol live to give you that respect because you remember I already in a place of judgment.
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, how the gates.
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_00: A DJ singing.
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_00: So them don't have me up as we're doing on stage.
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_00: So for me, I was saying I'll already be in judge, do the right thing.
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I take the craft real serious.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_00: I take my craft real, real serious.
• 1:06:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:30
  SPEAKER_00: Real, real, real, real serious.
• 1:06:31
  SPEAKER_00: Take my time and deliver the vocals, the pronunciation, everything.
• 1:06:36
  Corie: Yeah, the product, the end product this show.
• 1:06:38
  Corie: The end product this show.
• 1:06:38
  Corie: Because I guess you're right in that as a fet go or party goer.
• 1:06:42
  Corie: When you hear a song, one of the worst things experiences for a fet goer, right?
• 1:06:45
  Corie: Is because we're paying you money to see you.
• 1:06:47
  Corie: One of the worst things to hear is when the record song in one way.
• 1:06:51
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, cool.
• 1:06:53
  SPEAKER_00: You remember the end of the day, I always tell I'm a student to the game.
• 1:06:56
  SPEAKER_00: So you see that too.
• 1:06:58
  SPEAKER_00: I see that.
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, when it Richie Hyper, you push it in my kid.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_00: As he hyper Richie pushing it.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_00: We don't, we don't we want to hear you sing it.
• 1:07:10
  Corie: Well hear you singing and talking about people from we era to it.
• 1:07:13
  Corie: Worse for we can see.
• 1:07:15
  Corie: I was just watching um, I can't remember who was here.
• 1:07:18
  Corie: Somebody was here last week, and it makes me go back to the old brass and singing them days and things.
• 1:07:22
  Corie: But Marshall is a good example of that.
• 1:07:23
  Corie: It's not nothing behind you, no brother.
• 1:07:24
  Corie: There's no DJs and no Ables and notable or backup singers.
• 1:07:28
  Corie: You can hear backup singers help them.
• 1:07:29
  Corie: Yeah.
• 1:07:29
  Corie: But when you see you on stage, you're carrying your song and them kind of thing.
• 1:07:32
  Corie: So at that point, you get to turn out, right?
• 1:07:34
  Corie: After COVID, the song comes out.
• 1:07:35
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:36
  Corie: And you're gone.
• 1:07:37
  Corie: So from there, you're writing too, or you're just uh No, no, no.
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_00: I have no writing ability.
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_00: I just I still have to know.
• 1:07:44
  SPEAKER_00: No, I can get two, three lines, I could hear what I want to say in it.
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_00: But remember now, writing is a different art.
• 1:07:51
  SPEAKER_00: I don't have melody in me.
• 1:07:52
  SPEAKER_00: So if I write in a song, I will song like I'm gonna see who.
• 1:07:58
  SPEAKER_00: I go song like a shaba, like there's rambling.
• 1:08:02
  SPEAKER_00: Structure and all that.
• 1:08:05
  SPEAKER_00: So is if I learned melody, I feel I could write because I is a man who rare lyrics in mine.
• 1:08:09
  SPEAKER_00: I rare lyrics.
• 1:08:10
  Corie: I hear you say in an interview before most times when you go to whether it's teasure, whoever you're going to to do writing, you have a concept in mind.
• 1:08:17
  Corie: Usually it starts with your own concept, or you is not rarely, no.
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um I I allow the creative to work because at the end of the day, them writing through you.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_00: So the expression that they're seeing would be a I would can't see what them seeing.
• 1:08:35
  SPEAKER_00: So I allow them to write and I would just execute.
• 1:08:38
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:39
  SPEAKER_00: But I I have a template in which I go by nice melody, say the right things to the top to give me the right feeling, that I want to feel geared towards the festival, and right after that, give me a nice sing along so I could interact with the crowd, and then we could do anything after that.
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_03: You understand?
• 1:08:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a nice beat, say the right things to the first four bars, sing out.
• 1:09:05
  SPEAKER_00: And then you could do anything else.
• 1:09:07
  SPEAKER_00: Because remember, you can loop that up there.
• 1:09:08
  Corie: And you had them.
• 1:09:09
  SPEAKER_00: And you had them.
• 1:09:10
  SPEAKER_00: So you just like the woman and woman and woman and rum, I can't behave myself.
• 1:09:13
  SPEAKER_00: You don't know nothing else after.
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 1:09:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but you have it.
• 1:09:17
  SPEAKER_00: But you have it.
• 1:09:18
  SPEAKER_00: So the first eight bars of your song, everything needs to be ready.
• 1:09:25
  SPEAKER_00: You could have a little body in between, but the first eight bars to 12 bars, that is the most important.
• 1:09:32
  Corie: I understand it's a little listen.
• 1:09:33
  Corie: Matter catalog in my head.
• 1:09:34
  Corie: Yeah, you're hearing it, you're hearing it.
• 1:09:36
  SPEAKER_00: Because if by the time I come on stage and I do rah-rah-rah, and you can't interact with me, you watching me like.
• 1:09:42
  Corie: I understand.
• 1:09:43
  Corie: Because when you hear drink and park all the games.
• 1:09:46
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:46
  Corie: From the time you hear it, any any kind of event, you're not going to be able to do it.
• 1:09:50
  SPEAKER_00: And they wouldn't believe that year, I had Hall of Fame.
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_00: That's Teja song.
• 1:09:58
  SPEAKER_00: What he, that's Teja Breakthrough song.
• 1:09:59
  SPEAKER_00: So I was learning that song for like six months because that song was a real deep sentimental song.
• 1:10:06
  SPEAKER_00: So to execute that song, I needed real vocal range.
• 1:10:09
  SPEAKER_00: So I keep practicing and practicing to get the call.
• 1:10:12
  SPEAKER_00: You remember that I tell you this is how to work it in.
• 1:10:14
  SPEAKER_00: How to work it in.
• 1:10:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I practicing this song.
• 1:10:17
  SPEAKER_00: So I say, yeah, going back with us.
• 1:10:20
  SPEAKER_00: That is so then after now, I went to Kit.
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Kit now.
• 1:10:26
  SPEAKER_00: We send the song to Marshall, but Marshall tells me to give it to you.
• 1:10:30
  SPEAKER_00: Who could he really like my boy?
• 1:10:35
  SPEAKER_00: No, yeah.
• 1:10:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:10:37
  SPEAKER_00: So Kit was like Marshall tell us to give it to you.
• 1:10:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean I.
• 1:10:50
  SPEAKER_00: So when I hear the song, Kid Mumblin'.
• 1:10:53
  SPEAKER_00: But I remember accustomed to touch again, me full full demo.
• 1:10:56
  SPEAKER_00: So when I hear my buttman now, I'm open-minded.
• 1:11:03
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 1:11:03
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, okay.
• 1:11:04
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't mind failing.
• 1:11:07
  SPEAKER_00: Trying something new.
• 1:11:09
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, alright, yeah, so when he said to me, yeah, yeah, I like it, but I know hearing no words.
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_00: I only hear him mumbling.
• 1:11:17
  SPEAKER_00: So I go on the now, so we said to say, go on there.
• 1:11:20
  SPEAKER_00: He told me, Let me sort of fight, where you ain't hearing nothing.
• 1:11:28
  SPEAKER_00: So kid started writing.
• 1:11:31
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, yeah.
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_00: But when I the song was always a good song and all, but it wasn't like the main part of my project for that season.
• 1:11:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you're on Hall of Fame in the man.
• 1:11:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I was like, So I go on there.
• 1:11:48
  SPEAKER_00: The song finished write the song, then it's time to record now.
• 1:11:53
  SPEAKER_00: When I recorded him, I way, where's this?
• 1:11:58
  SPEAKER_00: But still, I wasn't full hundred with the song.
• 1:12:02
  SPEAKER_00: Because I learned that song I was six months long.
• 1:12:04
  SPEAKER_00: So I say this is my main song.
• 1:12:07
  SPEAKER_00: So then after when I sat and listened to the song and I started thinking, buddy the song now.
• 1:12:11
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Teja, best you sing Hall of Fame.
• 1:12:15
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, serious.
• 1:12:17
  SPEAKER_00: And you remember you want to go down that part of being like David Rodders.
• 1:12:22
  SPEAKER_00: So the song had all those things tailored to it to give people that whole narrative of course, of course.
• 1:12:27
  SPEAKER_00: Hall of Fame and who and I say you could go down that part, you remember I still learn my part as I go, but I understand where I want to be.
• 1:12:36
  SPEAKER_00: But you remember now you're more seasoned because you're doing this at a higher level before me.
• 1:12:41
  SPEAKER_00: So, but you remember now I learning it before him.
• 1:12:45
  SPEAKER_00: So I have more knowledge of what would work for you and what would work for me.
• 1:12:49
  SPEAKER_00: So I have a more kind of A and R D and you.
• 1:12:51
  SPEAKER_00: I understand.
• 1:12:52
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, you sing this and I would sing this.
• 1:12:57
  SPEAKER_00: So he said, I I performed when I do so I in about two weeks, I gone.
• 1:13:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'm now cool.
• 1:13:05
  SPEAKER_00: But now that is my personal friend, eh?
• 1:13:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:13:08
  SPEAKER_00: So we was everywhere.
• 1:13:11
  SPEAKER_00: He also had a great season there.
• 1:13:14
  SPEAKER_00: So after Hall of Fame pickup and um drink and party, we going down the road.
• 1:13:20
  SPEAKER_00: We on tour together, we all Lando, we all over, we LA, we everywhere.
• 1:13:25
  SPEAKER_00: So go ahead.
• 1:13:27
  SPEAKER_00: So after that now, you remember it.
• 1:13:30
  SPEAKER_00: I had three consecutive years of hits.
• 1:13:33
  SPEAKER_00: So I had the the outside.
• 1:13:36
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:13:36
  SPEAKER_00: After the outside, I had the horn and first.
• 1:13:38
  SPEAKER_00: After the horn and first coming between them.
• 1:13:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:41
  SPEAKER_00: Horn and first was drink of it.
• 1:13:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:43
  SPEAKER_00: Pressuring them during the COVID.
• 1:13:45
  SPEAKER_00: I say, boy, we have to come out the gate banging.
• 1:13:47
  Corie: And then I mean the fair pass horn and first, the same DSS man.
• 1:13:51
  Corie: I see him on a boat, right?
• 1:13:52
  Corie: That's it in a horn and first.
• 1:13:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:54
  Corie: But then yes, certainly losses already.
• 1:13:56
  SPEAKER_00: Cooler, cooler, cooler, cooler, cooler, cooler.
• 1:13:58
  SPEAKER_00: Just check it.
• 1:13:59
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, good.
• 1:14:00
  SPEAKER_00: I don't hold on tobacco.
• 1:14:01
  Corie: I realize.
• 1:14:02
  SPEAKER_00: I seen him and healing him, and people seen him and couple less than me by plenty, and the real vector is 10,000.
• 1:14:09
  Corie: Up to today.
• 1:14:10
  Corie: Up to the Yeah, be playing line with that.
• 1:14:12
  SPEAKER_00: Boy, Nigel put 10,000 and still seen him and screeny face.
• 1:14:16
  SPEAKER_00: But we ain't gonna talk about that.
• 1:14:17
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 1:14:23
  SPEAKER_00: So it was outside, one and first, and then I catch Leave It Alone, written by Problem Child.
• 1:14:29
  SPEAKER_00: If you know you cannot handle the people when you see the people.
• 1:14:37
  SPEAKER_00: And then now I catch that.
• 1:14:38
  SPEAKER_00: So then that so I saw the rail fly.
• 1:14:41
  SPEAKER_00: If I tell you, I guess sick of flying.
• 1:14:43
  SPEAKER_00: Because I used to rail fly with Bungie and Friend, like every weekend.
• 1:14:48
  SPEAKER_00: Every weekend from Thursday, we go until Monday.
• 1:14:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I've been doing that for like 12 years.
• 1:14:57
  SPEAKER_00: So like going to the airport sad become a little heavy for me.
• 1:15:03
  SPEAKER_00: Because as it reaches paddle, it has become a it is.
• 1:15:06
  Corie: It could be burdensome, yeah.
• 1:15:08
  SPEAKER_00: When I explain it to some people, they do understand.
• 1:15:10
  SPEAKER_00: Boy, you're going to fly.
• 1:15:12
  SPEAKER_00: But when you're doing it so much times, it has become a little strenuous and your whole mental breakdown.
• 1:15:19
  Corie: So now we're in a catalogue and you catch the monster.
• 1:15:21
  Corie: Now we plan to do your own shows and thing.
• 1:15:25
  SPEAKER_00: But what I really build up the catalogue for is for more festivals and more jazz.
• 1:15:32
  SPEAKER_00: Because I like to perform and interact with the crowd.
• 1:15:37
  SPEAKER_00: So I think once I have the right music in them festivals and them and them jazz and them, they're okay on me.
• 1:15:44
  Corie: Yeah.
• 1:15:45
  SPEAKER_00: You understand what I'm saying?
• 1:15:47
  Corie: I don't know if you feel it far from labor, right?
• 1:15:50
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 1:15:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:51
  SPEAKER_00: So this season in particular, the work rate and the work ethic is on a whole different spectrum.
• 1:16:00
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:16:01
  SPEAKER_00: You understand what I'm saying?
• 1:16:04
  SPEAKER_00: Because I have a song is an interpolation of a previous hit song.
• 1:16:13
  SPEAKER_00: But the interpolation is I singing this exact song about my melody different.
• 1:16:22
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 1:16:22
  SPEAKER_03: You understand?
• 1:16:23
  SPEAKER_03: It's 2027?
• 1:16:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:26
  SPEAKER_00: So the I singing the exact same thing, but different melody and a whole different idea.
• 1:16:34
  SPEAKER_00: But is who know and who here will know is that song?
• 1:16:39
  Corie: Who sing the original song?
• 1:16:41
  Corie: Who sing the original?
• 1:16:42
  Corie: Super, super.
• 1:16:43
  Corie: Whoa.
• 1:16:44
  Corie: I can't wait to hear that.
• 1:16:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:16:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:50
  Corie: Yeah, I can't wait to hear that.
• 1:16:51
  Corie: I can't wait to hear that.
• 1:16:52
  SPEAKER_00: So I real excited about that song in particular.
• 1:16:58
  SPEAKER_00: Because I use a particular tone from a voice which is different.
• 1:17:03
  SPEAKER_00: Because when I played it for Marshall, he was like, hold on.
• 1:17:09
  SPEAKER_00: You can't sing it.
• 1:17:11
  SPEAKER_00: No other singing in that tone because I just trying to do over what the writer write.
• 1:17:17
  SPEAKER_00: So at the end of the day, he wrote that song with how we sing it.
• 1:17:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I wouldn't get the emotion if I sing it in my tone.
• 1:17:26
  Corie: Okay, okay.
• 1:17:26
  SPEAKER_00: So for me to really get the full emotion of the song, I have to sing it back in that way.
• 1:17:32
  SPEAKER_00: So when I sing in it, it's like a key under my actual tone.
• 1:17:36
  SPEAKER_00: So it's song like if I forcing to sing the actual song.
• 1:17:39
  SPEAKER_00: So that is why Marshall was like, okay.
• 1:17:45
  SPEAKER_00: Sing it a cappella.
• 1:17:46
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
• 1:17:47
  SPEAKER_00: Oh vibes.
• 1:17:48
  SPEAKER_00: I go on by you to play the song to see how we looking to do certain things.
• 1:17:53
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't go there to play my song.
• 1:17:54
  SPEAKER_00: We went there to have a whole different separate meeting.
• 1:17:57
  Corie: No, you had to sing a cappella.
• 1:17:58
  SPEAKER_00: No, I had to sing a capella.
• 1:17:59
  SPEAKER_00: I never come here to prepare to sing no a cappella.
• 1:18:04
  SPEAKER_00: Singing the song.
• 1:18:06
  SPEAKER_00: Who good he could sing it?
• 1:18:08
  SPEAKER_00: I say, yes, because my body and the day the writer.
• 1:18:13
  SPEAKER_00: I have to use his expression to bring out the actual song and the emotion from it.
• 1:18:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I had to sing it in that way.
• 1:18:24
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 1:18:25
  Corie: And then he was like, alright, yeah.
• 1:18:28
  Corie: Yeah.
• 1:18:28
  Corie: Basically, all have a good relationship.
• 1:18:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, real, real good relationship.
• 1:18:32
  SPEAKER_00: That is my real boy.
• 1:18:33
  SPEAKER_00: We just talk for hours.
• 1:18:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:18:36
  SPEAKER_00: Because I help him out with a lot of songs in the butt.
• 1:18:39
  SPEAKER_00: I saw a lot of things behind closed doors where with no type of thing.
• 1:18:44
  Corie: Yeah, be credited here.
• 1:18:45
  Corie: People wouldn't see it.
• 1:18:45
  SPEAKER_00: They wouldn't see it.
• 1:18:46
  SPEAKER_00: But I work on a lot of songs with him off the books.
• 1:18:49
  Corie: Yeah.
• 1:18:50
  Corie: And I know you say initially with Viking, you had this all you good, everybody good.
• 1:18:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, everybody.
• 1:18:54
  SPEAKER_00: Real good boy.
• 1:18:55
  Corie: Yeah.
• 1:18:56
  Corie: You and everybody good in the way they say about you.
• 1:18:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:19:01
  SPEAKER_00: We still have an event together, an event called Predona Bowtride, Red Prominent Boat Tride.
• 1:19:05
  SPEAKER_00: We just do it locally and abroad.
• 1:19:06
  SPEAKER_00: So real good.
• 1:19:09
  SPEAKER_00: Every other day.
• 1:19:10
  Corie: Good, good.
• 1:19:11
  Corie: But I'm encouraged by some of the things you say today in terms of you, because you I don't I'm not sure if people know how serious you're taking the artistry.
• 1:19:19
  Corie: The things you're saying here, they'll be real committed to it today.
• 1:19:22
  SPEAKER_00: Because funny that you say that because I went up to Madman Studio, Yuan.
• 1:19:29
  SPEAKER_00: What are they calling themselves now?
• 1:19:30
  SPEAKER_00: Mad Lipso.
• 1:19:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, him and Killen.
• 1:19:33
  SPEAKER_00: They have this new They have this new team that they're trying to sell.
• 1:19:37
  SPEAKER_00: This new product, which is Mad Lips.
• 1:19:40
  SPEAKER_00: So I went up there now.
• 1:19:41
  SPEAKER_00: So he played.
• 1:19:42
  SPEAKER_00: Last year he was calling me to do a song, but remember now, I already I always have my campaign a year in advance.
• 1:19:48
  SPEAKER_00: I like a, I like, I like a designer.
• 1:19:51
  SPEAKER_00: I must know what direction I can do.
• 1:19:53
  SPEAKER_00: Can I well done your comment?
• 1:19:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well done.
• 1:19:55
  SPEAKER_00: I have my songs.
• 1:19:56
  Corie: Right.
• 1:19:57
  SPEAKER_00: I do write.
• 1:19:57
  SPEAKER_00: So they just call me the song vault.
• 1:20:00
  SPEAKER_00: So my vault always has three, four songs ready.
• 1:20:04
  SPEAKER_00: Remember by the end of the day.
• 1:20:06
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm a thing called writer's block.
• 1:20:08
  SPEAKER_00: And it's a certain period where a man will he would sing ten songs in a day, and it's a period where he didn't catch another.
• 1:20:15
  SPEAKER_00: So I always seven songs.
• 1:20:17
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:20:18
  SPEAKER_00: So now go on a buy you one.
• 1:20:21
  SPEAKER_00: He play the song.
• 1:20:22
  SPEAKER_00: By the time he plays the song, I tell him how I want my artwork, how I go and do the video, how I go and promote it.
• 1:20:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm now.
• 1:20:28
  SPEAKER_00: But like, but when they find you.
• 1:20:31
  SPEAKER_00: And then he was like, but this man like he's serious, baby.
• 1:20:34
  SPEAKER_00: Because remember now, everybody's seen me doing the thing, but not understanding the level of doing the thing on.
• 1:20:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's only when you interact with me on a one-on-one level you'll get to realize how serious I am towards the art itself.
• 1:20:49
  Corie: People can realize it after today.
• 1:20:51
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:20:52
  SPEAKER_00: So at the end of the day, when I hear a song, it must have a concept, it must have a sing-out part.
• 1:21:00
  SPEAKER_00: And it must have to have some kind of context with some kind of knowledge to have some substance.
• 1:21:06
  SPEAKER_00: It can't just be no, I think I sit down and I sit down and I lick it, I licky thing.
• 1:21:10
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 1:21:12
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's me, you know, but at the end of the day, coming from that DJ background, I have to show more.
• 1:21:19
  SPEAKER_00: Because I still fight in that party is a DJ, you know?
• 1:21:22
  Corie: Of course, of course, of course.
• 1:21:24
  SPEAKER_00: Which I don't mind.
• 1:21:25
  SPEAKER_00: Because every year I had to come out and prove myself.
• 1:21:27
  Corie: I guess that's the thing with so cool.
• 1:21:29
  Corie: It's like every artist is talking about our genre is when he had to come out and prove yourself.
• 1:21:32
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:21:33
  SPEAKER_00: So at the end of the day, according, I have a saying, every seven months, you need standing blocks.
• 1:21:39
  Corie: Yeah.
• 1:21:39
  Corie: Again.
• 1:21:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:21:40
  SPEAKER_00: I like you saying, I always on my mouse.
• 1:21:43
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 1:21:44
  Corie: But the nice thing now is catalogue.
• 1:21:45
  Corie: Like I say in the beginning, when I watch through.
• 1:21:48
  SPEAKER_00: You remember now, as I say, to build your catalogue, you have to always remove yourself from the year before.
• 1:21:55
  SPEAKER_00: Because you can't live in that moment again.
• 1:21:58
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 1:22:00
  SPEAKER_03: It's 100%.
• 1:22:01
  SPEAKER_00: So you could have a big song, and next year they watch you like a dog, and you have to have that emotional intelligence to know that that was that period of the like it.
• 1:22:09
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, you know, you have to build back up yourself for them to like you again.
• 1:22:12
  SPEAKER_00: And it's a mental thing.
• 1:22:14
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody else watched me like, bro, you're not human.
• 1:22:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, no.
• 1:22:18
  Corie: But that was real human.
• 1:22:20
  Corie: So the truth is, think about it like this, right?
• 1:22:22
  Corie: That is the truth about music.
• 1:22:23
  Corie: Is the truth about the fitness journey?
• 1:22:25
  Corie: It doesn't matter if you go and eat bad today.
• 1:22:27
  Corie: It doesn't matter what you do yesterday and the day before.
• 1:22:29
  Corie: So that idea of renewing all the time is key.
• 1:22:33
  SPEAKER_00: That is what so the campaign for this season have a real nice campaign.
• 1:22:39
  SPEAKER_00: I'm real happy about the work that I have in place for the season because I take a chance again.
• 1:22:47
  SPEAKER_00: I always take a chance.
• 1:22:48
  SPEAKER_00: I always doing a song that can say, you see he, enough.
• 1:22:53
  SPEAKER_03: Enough for him.
• 1:22:55
  SPEAKER_00: So I always taking a chance and trying to push the envelope with my songs.
• 1:23:01
  SPEAKER_00: So for this year's, I giving them one cultural.
• 1:23:04
  SPEAKER_00: Because I looking to go down in the young king, I looking to see if I can get a little money down there.
• 1:23:08
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 1:23:09
  SPEAKER_00: I've been real.
• 1:23:11
  SPEAKER_00: But still, I want to show them that I could do the damn thing.
• 1:23:16
  SPEAKER_00: And I want to show them that side.
• 1:23:22
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, sure.
• 1:23:24
  SPEAKER_00: One month of them.
• 1:23:25
  SPEAKER_00: So you have to come warm.
• 1:23:27
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 1:23:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's enough time to warm up the season.
• 1:23:31
  SPEAKER_00: So at the end of the day, as a man who dealing with finances, you can't have one stream.
• 1:23:39
  SPEAKER_00: And it goes to the same as the music business.
• 1:23:42
  SPEAKER_00: You can't have one stream a song.
• 1:23:44
  SPEAKER_00: You can't go down, go down, go down, go down, come up, come up, come up, come up.
• 1:23:46
  Corie: Yeah, of course.
• 1:23:48
  SPEAKER_00: So I have a cultural song, which is the interpolation of the super.
• 1:23:59
  SPEAKER_00: I go tell them the name of the song is Soka Baptist.
• 1:24:02
  SPEAKER_00: Oh I get that.
• 1:24:05
  SPEAKER_00: That's a religious podcast too.
• 1:24:08
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 1:24:08
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:24:10
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, no, no.
• 1:24:11
  Corie: Big, big, big, big song.
• 1:24:13
  Corie: Right.
• 1:24:14
  SPEAKER_00: So and as a pilot who wrote the song, I'm a guy by the name Dennis.
• 1:24:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um Emmanuel Rudder working it with me vocally.
• 1:24:24
  SPEAKER_00: I don't go nowhere without Emmanuel Rodder when I record as of late.
• 1:24:30
  SPEAKER_05: Vocal.
• 1:24:31
  SPEAKER_00: Vocal.
• 1:24:32
  SPEAKER_00: He's he's my vocal mentor.
• 1:24:34
  SPEAKER_00: He he he helps me with everything vocally at this point.
• 1:24:39
  SPEAKER_00: So I if I get a song from anybody, it has to come through him and then we do the thing that way.
• 1:24:49
  Corie: Yeah, that's one of the biggest artists.
• 1:24:53
  SPEAKER_00: That is my vocal engineer.
• 1:24:55
  SPEAKER_00: So myself, Dennis, Emmanuel, Emmanuel wrote some additional additional um verses on it as well.
• 1:25:06
  SPEAKER_00: So it's a real deep nice cultural merge with some afro beats and some live precussions.
• 1:25:18
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 1:25:19
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:25:20
  SPEAKER_00: So it's a real when you hear this song, it's a real nice song to listen to and vocally it's amazing.
• 1:25:28
  Corie: Yeah.
• 1:25:29
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 1:25:30
  Corie: If you say so, I'll take your word by you.
• 1:25:32
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:25:32
  Corie: Very, very difficult song to touch.
• 1:25:34
  Corie: Hard, hard song to touch.
• 1:25:36
  Corie: For some people, for some people in this in this space, you know.
• 1:25:39
  Corie: Yeah.
• 1:25:40
  SPEAKER_00: So, and after that now, I have the party song.
• 1:25:44
  SPEAKER_00: Real nice song.
• 1:25:46
  SPEAKER_00: Then record yet.
• 1:25:48
  SPEAKER_05: Where you're good.
• 1:25:48
  SPEAKER_00: I got it like a week ago.
• 1:25:52
  SPEAKER_00: I was confident about it.
• 1:25:53
  SPEAKER_00: It have all the moving parts that I mentioned earlier.
• 1:25:58
  SPEAKER_00: It had a nice wood seat up, it had a singout, and it have a concept.
• 1:26:03
  SPEAKER_00: Nice.
• 1:26:03
  SPEAKER_03: Nice.
• 1:26:04
  SPEAKER_00: Nice.
• 1:26:06
  SPEAKER_00: Other than that, I have a next song which is more geared to the festivals and the jazz and thing.
• 1:26:16
  SPEAKER_00: So that song is a much slower song, but it well I can say it it's closer to songing something like what you heard before.
• 1:26:26
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, okay.
• 1:26:26
  SPEAKER_00: In terms of the other genres, because how they merge all the instruments now.
• 1:26:30
  SPEAKER_00: So it have a piece of reggae, it have a little piece of it have a piece of calypso, it has a piece of jazz, it has a piece of EDM, it have everything in that.
• 1:26:40
  SPEAKER_00: So these two songs, other than the cultural songs, is more songs get uh streaming.
• 1:26:49
  Corie: Yeah, okay, okay, okay.
• 1:26:51
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:26:52
  Corie: So you can listen at the air understand it's catalogue thing.
• 1:26:55
  SPEAKER_00: So with those, with that song and these two songs here now, my frontry good.
• 1:27:02
  SPEAKER_00: So I had the Mbappy, I had them belly.
• 1:27:06
  Corie: You call it the wrong set of names, you call it the wrong set of names.
• 1:27:09
  Corie: They men home.
• 1:27:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:27:11
  SPEAKER_00: They home, but they're home with solid.
• 1:27:13
  Corie: Solid like you.
• 1:27:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're solid.
• 1:27:16
  SPEAKER_00: So my front tree are bad.
• 1:27:19
  SPEAKER_00: But I still have the midfield just in case.
• 1:27:22
  SPEAKER_00: I put out the body I will cut and watch me like dog still, so I could still say, alright.
• 1:27:27
  SPEAKER_00: Let me push up this one here.
• 1:27:30
  SPEAKER_00: But at the end of the day, by the time I do my promotion, I realize I could feel the temperature and know if I have to go again.
• 1:27:36
  SPEAKER_00: So in real life, I have a front tree.
• 1:27:39
  SPEAKER_00: But my defense, I have a next tree.
• 1:27:42
  SPEAKER_00: Just in case, should in case.
• 1:27:44
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't really reach day most times because of by the time I sell it with the promotion.
• 1:27:48
  SPEAKER_00: Remember, a song is not really based on how much you like is how you promote the song and how you market it.
• 1:27:55
  Corie: 100%.
• 1:27:56
  Corie: You understand?
• 1:27:57
  Corie: So you start in 11, you start in 11 up there.
• 1:27:59
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:28:00
  Corie: Well, brother, listen.
• 1:28:01
  Corie: Come back, you know.
• 1:28:02
  Corie: When you hear so baptists, whenever we hear it, we had to hear that and we had to hear you do that.
• 1:28:06
  Corie: Because I feel it's important.
• 1:28:07
  Corie: I was telling you before we start, as we wrap up, that y'all.
• 1:28:13
  Corie: Well, I I don't want to call no names and leave out none, right?
• 1:28:16
  Corie: But treasure yourself, Kit and all the people you're working with.
• 1:28:19
  Corie: They have a they have a kind of Kaiso and Calypso feel.
• 1:28:22
  Corie: So no matter what the BPMs is, because like you say, when you listen to your music and people who listen to the catalogue after this, go hear it.
• 1:28:28
  Corie: Because people might just say it's a DJ who's singing.
• 1:28:30
  Corie: Singing song, man, they used to say in my time, right?
• 1:28:33
  Corie: But exactly what you say is what I hear.
• 1:28:35
  Corie: This man, you know, he has some rum song here, he has some song with just a breakway, he has some song where just and he has some things to listen to.
• 1:28:42
  Corie: You know what I mean?
• 1:28:42
  Corie: So continue to do that.
• 1:28:43
  Corie: And whenever you talk about this time, come come back in, you gotta come back in, you gotta wear you gotta get a chance for you to wear this shirt when you come back, right?