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SEAHAWKS 18, COLTS 16: Reaction with Will Retherford & Mike Rich (2.112.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's going down in full reverse and he's got a man touched out that's trashed out and that's Philip Rivers with a touchdown pass.
• 0:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome back to the central Indian sports report, Colts fans for a special edition of the Colts Report.
• 0:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Will, rather, furs and Mike Rich's reaction to a Colts 1816 heart breaking defeat in Seattle.
• 1:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was all setting up to be exactly as will called it.
• 1:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Will said it was going to go exactly this way and the Colts were going to win.
• 1:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: And really, look like that was going to happen.
• 1:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: In the end, though, things kind of crumbled around us this season will.
• 1:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, um, it was going to be awfully loud on this podcast of the Coltsbury able to pull that one off because I think I was the only person in media in the state of Indiana that act actually believed the Coltsbury going to pull that one out.
• 1:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, when exactly how I expected, they made it dirty.
• 1:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: They made it gross.
• 1:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: They, they won in the trenches.
• 1:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: They did a good job of
• 1:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think masking rivers weaknesses is what they could.
• 1:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: They just missed it away.
• 1:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's just no other way to describe it.
• 1:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Did they need the offense to go down there or marching and score a touchdown?
• 1:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, did the defense need to step up and make a play when the game called for it?
• 1:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's also true at the same time.
• 1:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Mike, they lost a game in the defense.
• 2:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Didn't even give up a touchdown.
• 2:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, everything that could go wrong in the last month has been crazy.
• 2:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's been a crazy last what five games I've lost for the last five is that what it's been like four straight.
• 2:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think back on history of NFL to see you like a 60-yard field goal with 47 seconds left and you're like shouldn't have that game in the past and then then they come back and they then kick a 56-yard
• 2:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: field goal after they that Seattle walked right down the field and just there was no contest.
• 2:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what that'll happen with the defense.
• 2:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it was two or three plays and they were in field goal range.
• 2:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: We had our like times a 56 yard field goal was one of the five longest
• 3:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Denver.
• 3:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was it was a long field goal, but to see the cult kicker is it?
• 3:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: What's his last same group A or group E?
• 3:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Group E?
• 3:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Group E. Damn.
• 3:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the highlight of his career was that freaking kick in 20 seconds.
• 3:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was chatter.
• 3:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think you're right.
• 3:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think
• 3:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: The cults did very well supporting rivers as weaknesses, but he got them where they needed to be.
• 3:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought for a 44 year old guy that has had four or five days of practice to pre-dam good job.
• 3:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: That now that performance is not good enough to win.
• 3:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: He can't start another game.
• 3:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was not good enough to win.
• 4:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was absolutely glaring.
• 4:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: You cannot expect anything more from a guy on three days of practice after five years off than that.
• 4:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: The performance is great for that story.
• 4:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not great for winning in a felfelphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphalphal
• 4:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can't tell me that that Riley Leonard there in that fourth quarter would not have been a better option.
• 4:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can't tell me that it's Philip Rivers.
• 4:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I could not put his right foot in the ground and deliver a good ball.
• 4:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: He just couldn't do it.
• 4:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't throw a good ball the whole time.
• 4:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't deliver a strike.
• 4:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was constantly floating.
• 4:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: His receivers went up and had to make difficult plays every single catch.
• 4:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: You had to be able to run the ball and when you got down there in under two minutes, you saw what happened.
• 4:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: a great catch by Alec Pierce where he was getting mold and that should have been a flag regardless of the catch, but then Jonathan Taylor didn't play superhero and five for extra yards, it's just not sustainable.
• 5:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you had a guy on the bench that could have, I think delivered it a slightly better performance than what I saw from Phil Rivers did.
• 5:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's an awesome story, but the cult didn't fail, Philip River, Philip River's, Philip River's,
• 5:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: needs to not play another game.
• 5:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what needs to happen.
• 5:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was a great story.
• 5:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought that I thought the past of Tyler Warren, and I think it was the beginning of the fourth quarter.
• 5:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think there was another quarter back on that team that could have thrown that past.
• 5:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And there's a great patch on Tyler Warren's part.
• 5:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that the key with the players is how
• 5:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: was great for what we had going into with all the rivers and giving another weekend if he he's going to progress he's going to get better man I got it I'm going to have serious questions about him waking up tomorrow morning and going wasn't it so hard yeah and it's he going to be even able to really compete in practice this week and he got hit a couple times really hard and I remember being 44 Mike that's not
• 6:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now in five years, you know what, you know what I was thinking the whole time I was like he's teaching and he's teaching Anthony Richardson how not to fucking tap out because that dude should have tapped out in the first quarter.
• 6:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: 44 years old and being able to run a professional NFL offense and make it through four quarters.
• 6:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was impressive and be competitive in that environment.
• 6:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that was one of the toughest environments to play in in a foul.
• 6:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was going to be embarrassing and it wasn't.
• 6:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was going to be embarrassing too.
• 6:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't think it was going to be that close.
• 6:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: The only one thought it was going to be close was will.
• 6:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: You had me convince the other day that they were going to win.
• 7:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to discredit.
• 7:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm thankful for the effort that he went out and performed for our fans, for the Colts fan base.
• 7:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I give all the props and respect to Philip Rivers for being 44 coming off the
• 7:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: your couch and in playing.
• 7:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not saying that he played bad for the circumstance, he just didn't play good enough to win you a football game in most situations.
• 7:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: The defensive to good job, your defense didn't allow touchdown.
• 7:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: You've got to score.
• 7:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you'd have said, we held the C-Ox under 20 points.
• 7:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would have said, we don't want.
• 7:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: The offense has to go and score more than 16.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just the reality of the situation.
• 7:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that fourth quarter you can't sit here and tell me that the play calling wasn't designed to mass filipurver's weakness.
• 7:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: They had a 35.
• 7:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: What do they do?
• 7:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: They call a screen pass.
• 7:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: that loses five yards because I know Phillip Rivers can't stand in the pocket and deliver a strike and deliver a ball that is going to give them a first down.
• 8:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was that play call was intentionally done because you just didn't have the faith that your quarterback was going to be able to stand in there and hang.
• 8:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it took him out of field goal range that in that play right there it started the the cascade of the seahawks scanning some momentum and the seahawks didn't score
• 8:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Riley Leonard makes a different because you you're quarterback and move your quarterback and escape the pocket a little bit maybe you just call the game a little differently.
• 8:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I thought that I'm not saying it's on strike and starting to the best that he could do with what he had.
• 8:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying he called a bad game.
• 8:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying if that's what it's going to be the last three weeks when you basically need to win out, have any shot of making the playoffs, it's not going to be good enough.
• 8:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they're going to end nine and eight.
• 8:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
• 9:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: because you're playing the way and you don't give the seahawks a chance to have the ball back to either live and die with whatever decision you had you had three got three timeouts in your back pocket even if you don't get it get stops and hopefully you to be fair if you can 50 six yard field goal at the buzzer to make it not work but 50 six is the new 45
• 9:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you can't you just you can't gain play and like that.
• 9:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can't call the game like that.
• 9:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: And let's also mention groupies kick off there that allowed them to get to the 40 yard line was horrible.
• 9:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was a horrendous.
• 9:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: They should have loved all of our rounds.
• 9:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: All of their needed.
• 9:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: They needed Blake groupie to just deliver a ball and keep them.
• 9:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Even at the 30, the 30 is going to be even harder with no timeouts to make a play and they couldn't do it.
• 10:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: They just flat out, shit the bed when it matters the most and and they just didn't play winning football in the last 40 seconds and they got beat and they beat a team that the cults got beat by a team that they shouldn't have.
• 10:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: They should have won that game given all the circumstances and how your defense played and it just wasn't good enough.
• 10:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the moral happy ending of the spill river's experiment awesome glad that he went out there and got to perform.
• 10:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Got to touchdown.
• 10:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's great.
• 10:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: But everybody's got to be like, we just absolutely lost the play off because of that situation.
• 10:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think we would have been there with Riley Leonard's starting now?
• 10:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it would have been a whole different game.
• 10:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it would have been a whole different game plan.
• 10:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think they would have went away from the run.
• 10:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think the key to why they were in that game is because they controlled the run game and Jonathan Taylor would have been a run ball.
• 10:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's the thing.
• 10:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: There was just a couple times.
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: There was a couple times, Mike, where I sat there, like I said on the third and five, where if Riley literally lives the quarterback, you're play calls different.
• 11:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: There were just key situations where the play calling is different with a different quarterback.
• 11:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: is good as Philip Rivers played given the circumstance, it's just didn't provide the team of real shot.
• 11:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he only threw for 120 yards.
• 11:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's just not good enough.
• 11:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sorry.
• 11:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's the part that people don't want to hear is that just wasn't good enough, regardless of the story.
• 11:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think Riley Leonard there, you know, he's able to move.
• 11:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's maybe a couple times he steps up in the pocket.
• 11:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: He delivers a ball.
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that he threw the ball
• 11:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: his performance in Jacksonville.
• 11:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: The interception you gave up was a 50, 50 toss up that the tie goes to the runner that it seemingly didn't in that situation.
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love Phil Rivers.
• 11:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's he's a legend.
• 11:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's a he's a gift to the game for doing what he did, but I know respectfully as a cold fan.
• 12:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: If he's healthy, you got to go, uh, Riley Leonard John forward right.
• 12:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I said it all week, it needed to be Riley Leonard if he's healthy and you just got to give yourself a chance because if you think that next week's San Francisco, now that now they sell a week of Phil Rivers, they have a week of tape now.
• 12:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: They know where his limitations are and Michael Pittman's not involved.
• 12:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Josh Towns is an involved, either Warren's not involved.
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Derek Pierce is not involved.
• 12:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: it's just not sustainable to win.
• 12:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got to have a quarterback that can deliver the balls beyond time and he was on time.
• 12:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: He just, it's that zip.
• 12:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's that that extra just that he didn't have in that right arm that somebody like Riley Leonard can have.
• 12:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we've lost Mike Rich.
• 12:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's on the road for his job.
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: So don't know.
• 12:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: He'll be back or not.
• 12:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: If not, it was good having him well.
• 12:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: One more quick segment.
• 12:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Here's the thing, well, they are still smack dab in the middle of the playoff race.
• 13:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's why a game like tonight is so disappointing because this is one that you can't lose.
• 13:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can't give this one up because they needed to win two or four to give themselves a legitimate shot.
• 13:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: It would have been awesome to get the two or four before you had to get them.
• 13:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: That didn't happen.
• 13:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: So now, you've got to play your back against the wall even more now, at home, on Monday and I flip all against the 49ers.
• 13:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you do.
• 13:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's... Cycling is going to roll with rivers, I think, and I just, I hope that it can work out.
• 13:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: But after what I saw today, I don't think that it's sustainable enough for this team to have a real shot.
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: The rest of the way out.
• 13:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, Mike, where you joining us from?
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jacksonville, they won today, unfortunately, Jacksonville and Houston are both playing really well.
• 13:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And in four, nine and five, it's exactly, it's, it's unfortunate exactly.
• 13:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was told, and Jacksonville is getting better week in, week in, week out.
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: That offense is really starting to find its groove.
• 14:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, I don't know, right now they need to,
• 14:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: They've got to figure out a way in the course to just to make that weekend, and make it just used enough, uh, when it is.
• 14:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I will put on this cold in the morning without my life.
• 14:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're in the living and bad connection.
• 14:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: The little guy who needs to be happy The little guy who needs to be happy The little guy who needs to be happy The little guy who needs to be happy
• 15:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: They've got to give themselves an eligibility in the shot and give themselves a quarter back that I think can win them games and not win in spite of and even with Riley Leonard's limitations.
• 15:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I still like the athleticism.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like the profile.
• 15:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think his arm looked alive and that Jacksonville game.
• 15:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'd love to see him get an opportunity.
• 15:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a little surprised that he wasn't given an opportunity this week and 16 points are sitting on a cut at this league.
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got score touchdowns and off-field goals.
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: My glitch is back again, your final thoughts, Mike.
• 15:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think they start Philip Rivers the rest of the year.
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're going to go with that experiment and try to pull two out of the next three, and it's probably still not make the playoffs.
• 15:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think their best chance at winning a game is probably San Francisco.
• 15:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: If they don't beat San Francisco, they might as well.
• 16:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if they can't beat San Francisco, it's time to pack it up.
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he could fill up rivers out there to get hurt.
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: And loses at home to the writers next week, the cult's pretty much have to go and beat him.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had it.
• 16:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't see that happening.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Houston's playing well.
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Jacksonville's playing well.
• 16:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Their schedules are more favorable.
• 16:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think we're out of the playoffs again.
• 16:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't matter who's starting to quarterback.
• 16:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's unfortunate because there's so many good
• 16:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: the weakness is, was that quarterback position and it's so weak that you have to bring in a 44 year old that has played five years and you know it was exciting, I was excited to watch the game.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think a lot of people were excited to watch this game and see how it played.
• 16:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think it was impressive and the end of the go down one of the most memorable performances in the history of the franchise I think, but just wasn't enough.
• 17:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: If he wins, it's legendary because he goes back and starts against San Francisco, has a chance at home.
• 17:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: The thing with Philip Rivers over Riley Leonard is just just the intelligence of what he did.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Knowing the defense, knowing what to expect, he knew when to get down, it looked awful.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: when he tried to be mobile, it looked awful.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And God knows Riley Winner's got a lot more skills when it comes to going outside of the pocket.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I would be surprised if they play on both.
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why not?
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks for listening to everyone.
• 17:51
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• 17:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I love Susie.
• 17:57
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