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This $22 Billion Entertainment Deal Might Totally Backfire · Classic Metal Show

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  SPEAKER_03: Hi, this is Biff from Lucifer and you're watching CMS TV.
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  right there with uh Johnny the Fox that one going out by
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  request to George from
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  Sydney just before that we heard the sensational Alex Harvey
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  Band with Tomahawk Kid
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  for Jackal UFO in there with Try Me for Hardy Boy the cult
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  wild-hearted son for
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  Shelly and kicking off that block we heard uh something from
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  down for Chris nothing
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  SPEAKER_03: in return walk away so uh
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  SPEAKER_03: Kind of an interesting block there,
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  SPEAKER_03: kind of 70s tinged I said in the chat,
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  SPEAKER_02: I said,
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  SPEAKER_02: man,
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  we're starting to really use that word metal in the classic
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  metal show leniently
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  SPEAKER_03: here Yeah,
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  SPEAKER_03: well,
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  SPEAKER_03: let's just call that,
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  SPEAKER_03: that's the roots Yeah,
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  SPEAKER_02: yeah I don't know,
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  it's funny because I was saying in the chat room how much I
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  never got Thin Lizzy
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  SPEAKER_03: You a Thin Lizzy fan or no?
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  Nope,
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  not a Thin Lizzy fan at all,
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  never have been Was it Lynette's voice?
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  they just didn't really connect with me I don't know I just
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  didn't find their songs
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  all that compelling you know the obviously everybody and their
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  brother if you ever
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  listen to the staple classic rock I mean everybody knows the
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  boys are back in town
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  you know and it's just like alright I heard that song a million
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  times never liked
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  that one that much no never big a fan and then of course you
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  know your favorite
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  SPEAKER_03: band Metallica covered Whiskey in a Jar Roll
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't even like when they do.
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  SPEAKER_03: Didn't like that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Didn't like that song, Whiskey in a Jar.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, wow.
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  SPEAKER_02: Down is metal?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, Jackal.
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  SPEAKER_02: Down is definitely metal.
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  SPEAKER_02: What, are you stupid?
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  SPEAKER_02: Definitely.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Are you stupid?
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  SPEAKER_02: You don't think down is metal?
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  SPEAKER_02: Come on, man.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's the same guy that says that Sidney Sweeney's a dog, so whatever.
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  SPEAKER_02: He has zero taste in anything.
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  SPEAKER_03: But anyway,
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  there's an eclectic rock block there for you for all the old
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  heads that like the
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  SPEAKER_03: older stuff,
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  SPEAKER_03: I guess.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, Eagles Fly Free, but what about Jailbreak or Emerald?
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  SPEAKER_02: No, neither one.
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  SPEAKER_02: Not a fan.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say that they suck.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's just that personally, I just never connected with them.
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  SPEAKER_03: They just never, you know, did anything for me.
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  SPEAKER_03: Me either.
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  SPEAKER_03: Never.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean,
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  SPEAKER_03: I kind of like some of the Black Star Rider stuff,
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  SPEAKER_03: but,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm not particularly a big fan of that either.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's okay, but it's just like, no, it's all right.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I hate being that way,
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  SPEAKER_02: too,
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  SPEAKER_02: because the singer guy,
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  SPEAKER_02: for the life of me,
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  SPEAKER_02: I can't think of his name,
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  SPEAKER_02: so this is going to sound real disingenuous,
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  SPEAKER_02: but what's his name?
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  SPEAKER_02: Ricky Warwick.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Ricky Warwick.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now I feel better.
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  SPEAKER_02: Ricky Warwick is a really nice guy who I've interviewed a dozen times,
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  SPEAKER_02: I think,
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  SPEAKER_02: since Black Star Riders came to be.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I've interviewed him for everything he's ever done.
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  SPEAKER_02: And he's a super great interviewer.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's a really great interviewer.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I'm just not a fan of what he does.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Happens that way sometimes, I guess.
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  something you know it just whatever it is it just grabs you
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  whatever that is it
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  just just doesn't do it for me yeah and I've even seen Lizzy a
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  couple of times I
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  saw him once in the early not that early days probably like the
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  early 90s maybe
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  when it was John Sykes John Sykes was the singer yeah just you
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  know doing yeah
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  SPEAKER_03: doing a doing a version of Thin Lizzy yeah and then I saw him again
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  I believe it was Thin Lizzy and not Black Star Riders when they
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  opened for Black Label Society.
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  SPEAKER_02: 2011, 2012, somewhere in there.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I've seen them even, and just not my cup of tea.
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  SPEAKER_02: Just not my thing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, to each their own, that's how it just goes.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's like some people like different things.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's just like, man, it's all right.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm not telling anybody else not to like them.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying it's not...
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  saying it ain't gonna be on my playlist anytime soon sure sure
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  if you like them
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  like them I always find that funny that people get upset and
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  try to defend their
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  point about music you know what I guarantee you there's a
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  hundred songs in my
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  catalog that Neely hates and I guarantee you there's a hundred
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  songs in his catalog
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  SPEAKER_02: that I hate yeah but that doesn't mean I gotta hate him or his music
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  just means I don't like those two well I mean we just briefly
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  mentioned it at the
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  top of the hour was you're not a fan of the cult not even a
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  little don't like the
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  doors either because they're very similar and they're you know
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  I know you don't
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  like either one of them I do not but that doesn't mean because
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  you do we can't be
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  friends anymore no it's just like okay well you go listen to
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  the cult when the cult
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  SPEAKER_02: comes to town I will not be your plus one
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  that's about it goddammit chris if you don't like what i like
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  we can't be friends
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  yeah i can't listen to these these fucking guys that guy
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  doesn't like the cult or
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  the doors or thin lizzie right what an asshole yeah like i know
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  you like black
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  label society i do i know you're a fan i'm a i'm a tepid fan i
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  i like some of their
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  SPEAKER_03: stuff but i'm not a hardcore
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  I actually went to go see them and I stayed maybe 15 minutes at
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  the most and I got
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  bored I was bored with it I believe it some people dude
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  everybody's different with
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  their music and that's I mean I've seen BLS 25 times I mean
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  I'll go see them
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  whenever they're coming again and I think they're here in
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  August or something and I
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  SPEAKER_02: think I'm gonna go
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  down to the shitty House of Blues which I do not like going to
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  but I like them
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  enough to go but if they had Thin Lizzy opening I would not go
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  it would just taint
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  the whole night for you it would it wouldn't be worth getting
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  there just forget it
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  and you remember that place with Black Label they like it holds
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  1500 so they sold
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  like 6000 tickets well it's the same thing when I saw them at
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  the House of Blues in
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  SPEAKER_03: Chicago mhm
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  you know my nephew and I we walked to the top of the stairs to
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  go into the showroom
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  that's as far as we got to the top of the stairs that was it
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  the rest of it was
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  just packed yeah at that point it's like why am I here you know
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  so we stood and you
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  know watched for like I said literally 15 minutes and I was
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  just like alright I'm
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  SPEAKER_03: done with this we left yeah I get it it's like who gives a fuck
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, and part of it is me and you, we're jaded.
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  SPEAKER_02: We've seen so many fucking shows that it's just like,
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  SPEAKER_02: man,
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  SPEAKER_02: if it's not comfortable,
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  SPEAKER_02: I ain't going.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well,
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  SPEAKER_03: I just don't like standing,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: chest to back,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: and you're just squeezed,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  and it's like you can't even enjoy yourself because you're just
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  standing there and
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  SPEAKER_03: you're being crushed from shoulder to shoulder,
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  SPEAKER_03: chest to back.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  I know it's a dumb thought that I shouldn't have but whenever I
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  go into any of
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  those kind of shows I immediately think Great White Fire yeah I
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  always think it I'm
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  always like I am not getting burned up again no fucking way I'd
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  rather leave that's
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  the only time I left the Black Label show was that was the one
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  that I'm talking
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  about here where it was packed out way too full and I was like
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  you know what fuck
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  that I'm not dying for Black Label Society just not doing it
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  Pantera maybe Black
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  SPEAKER_02: Label no
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  definitely not so I'm just just not into the shows where you're
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  just just can't
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  can't move me either me either man and then of course you got
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  the guys who are
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  always trying to get up to the front so they're pushing their
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  way through you know
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  it's like all right I've had enough of this I'm that guy yeah
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  just like this
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  I'm definitely the guy throwing elbows and shit to get to get
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  to the front anyway
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  enjoy your thin Lizzy people that's all I was trying to say
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  right exactly what
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  Chris is actually saying is fuck thin Lizzy I never wish I wish
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  they never existed
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  SPEAKER_02: that's right well I kind of do wouldn't have changed my life too much
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  If Thin Lizzy never existed other than that lousy Metallica
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  whiskey in the jarro I
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  wouldn't really have any point of relevance to them at all I've
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  never listened to
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  I've never sat down and just said you know what it is time to
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  listen from start to
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  finish first album to last album never had that thought never
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  had that moment never
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  SPEAKER_02: even had the moment
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  I don't think to listen,
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  like actually listen,
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  listen to a whole Thin Lizzy record.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't think I ever have.
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  SPEAKER_01: Have you?
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  SPEAKER_01: No.
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  think I have which
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  is weird because I tend to turn on anything that I have not
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  listened to just to
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  SPEAKER_02: hear it but I've even listened to all the cult records
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  I've tried so hard because of this dumb show to become a fan of
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  the cult that
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  that's the funny part about it is I really did try hard to
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  become a fan of the cult
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  because I feel very out of place because I think literally
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  every fan we have likes
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  the cult except me right so I really feel awkward when it's
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  like oh good here comes
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  SPEAKER_02: you know she sells sanctuary again
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  SPEAKER_03: It's like, hmm, yeah!
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  One band that both you and I can agree on that neither one of
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  us like Who's that?
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  SPEAKER_03: King's X Yes,
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  not a fan Not a fan either A lot of people like them too I know
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  they do But I have
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  listened to their albums Just like you with The Cult Yeah I
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  have tried to listen to
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  SPEAKER_03: King's X and I listen and I just like
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  then your head hits the table for boredom and falling asleep
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  it's just like I don't
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  get that okay they're so boring that's the part I do not get
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  about King's X and and
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  I would love anybody in the chat room to please explain that
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  what is it about
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  King's X that you love because to me I think that the one guy
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  is a pretty good
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  SPEAKER_02: guitar player is that Gaskell Jerry Gaskell maybe
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  I don't know who does what in that band I know Doug Pinnock
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  plays bass but I don't
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  know is Ty Tabor the guitar player or the drummer I don't know
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  those are the three
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  guys yes so whichever one plays guitar I don't hear anything
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  that moves me
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  whichever one plays drums I don't hear anything but kind of 4-4
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  straight up time
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  SPEAKER_02: just not a fan I don't get it and Pinnock's voice
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  holy shit I should listen to that instead of fucking tradio
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  calls when I can't
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  sleep that'll put me out should have thought of that Gretchen
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  Knuck Goes to
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  Nebraska put me to sleep in under five minutes probably fucking
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  boring ass band
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  alright well enough of the bands we hate alright you got
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  anything you want to lead
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  SPEAKER_03: off with
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  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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  I'm going to move away from bands for a minute because I think
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  this is a bigger
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  SPEAKER_02: story than it's really getting credit for.
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  SPEAKER_03: All right.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't know that I have anything.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I have a video I can put up, I guess, if we want to watch it.
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  SPEAKER_02: But did you hear the news this week?
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  SPEAKER_02: This is a TV thing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Did you hear the news this week about Fox buying Roku?
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  SPEAKER_02: No.
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  SPEAKER_02: Fox bought Roku.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I wasn't aware.
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  they're expecting the regulation and all that bullshit to go
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  through by the end of
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  the year and Fox is going to be the owner of Roku I hope they
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  don't destroy it I
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  have a lot of fear on this because anytime a corporation buys
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  something that you
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  SPEAKER_03: know grew from a you know kind of a grassroots thing yeah
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  and they develop things and made it a cool platform and then a
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  corporation comes in
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  SPEAKER_02: and buys it they always fuck it up and Roku was a true indie yes Roku was
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  absolutely a true indie and I'll point to another true indie in
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  the TV world before
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  we talk about this Roku thing was Pluto TV I came on to Pluto
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  TV so long ago
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  SPEAKER_02: that when you first tuned into it,
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  SPEAKER_02: channel one or whatever on Pluto TV,
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  SPEAKER_02: the default first channel,
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  SPEAKER_02: was the guy that started it sitting in his garage talking about,
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  SPEAKER_02: yeah,
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  this is what we're going to do and we're going to have all
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  these streaming channels
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  SPEAKER_02: and you can flick.
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  SPEAKER_02: And there was only like 15 channels or something when it started.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it was little.
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  but I remember I had it it was like kind of my I had Hulu
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  because everybody had
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  Hulu at that point right that was before Netflix had even like
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  blown up and then
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  one of the very first the two the two that came out channel
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  wise was Crackle and
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  Pluto and Crackle was okay but it just didn't have a whole lot
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  of good programming
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  SPEAKER_02: but Pluto was kind of interesting because it was kind of
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  some shit i liked like three's company and stuff like that i
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  was like okay this is
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  pretty decent but when they got bought up it just went to total
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  shit now of course
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  they went they got bought by um what are they bought by cbs i
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  guess paramount and
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  now it's just it's just an advertisement for paramount right
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  that's all they that's
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  SPEAKER_02: all they show now is paramount shit you know um
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  SPEAKER_02: But I think this is a much bigger play, this Roku.
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  And it's not getting a lot of attention online,
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  and I can't figure out why.
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  SPEAKER_02: Roku has something like 60% of the market for devices.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay, well, I can believe that.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's a lot, man.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's a lot of reach into the market.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's just the devices.
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  SPEAKER_02: They also have the number one ad-supported service with Tubi.
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  SPEAKER_02: Tubi is a Fox product.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: So,
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  SPEAKER_02: this leads to so many questions of,
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  SPEAKER_02: are they going to,
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  SPEAKER_02: is Roku,
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  SPEAKER_02: when it gets absorbed up,
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  SPEAKER_02: because that's what they're going to do,
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  SPEAKER_02: they're going to absorb it,
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  SPEAKER_02: are they going to
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  are they going to keep Tubi because Roku has the Roku channel
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  which is number two
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  the number two most watched one so they now literally own
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  number one and two in the
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  online watching but I can't believe they're going to keep two
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  apps they got to
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  merge the two don't they it's hard to tell I mean they're kind
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  of the same thing
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  Tubi is a little more on demand than than Roku channel Roku
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  channel is more like
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  SPEAKER_02: live channels but
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  they they've got to merge those that's the first thing the
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  second thing and this
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  this scared me when I heard it mentioned today in one of these
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  news stories is Fox
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  gonna let all these other things on their devices yeah well
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  yeah because they're
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  all competitors yeah I mean is Fox really gonna own Roku 60% of
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  the market share
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  SPEAKER_02: and let Netflix put their app on it?
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  SPEAKER_02: Or are they going to let Sling TV or YouTube TV?
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  SPEAKER_03: Or Apple TV?
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  SPEAKER_02: Or any TV?
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  SPEAKER_02: Or are they going to say, no, this is a Fox device now?
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  SPEAKER_02: I see this as a major, major fucking problem.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  If they start cutting to what apps you can do I'll just use as
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  an example I love
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  the Roku channel I do watch the shit out of the Roku channel
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  And I can't watch the
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  Roku channel on my Apple TV device Because they just don't have
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  the app available
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  on Apple TV for some reason It's probably rights But what's
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  going to stop Roku from
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  SPEAKER_02: doing that to Apple TV?
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  to Netflix you know now that there won't be a competitor I mean
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  what's the
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  competitor to Roku Google TV the the Fire Stick I think now
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  that Amazon locked down
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  the Fire Sticks nobody's buying those anymore yeah I never you
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  know I I think I we
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  talked about this a week ago or so but you know I bought the
• 18:51
  Fire Stick and I just
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_03: I found it more cumbersome to use than it was worth it.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_03: And I've always been on the Roku.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_03: Roku's just great.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_03: I watch everything on the Roku.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_02: Roku is just great.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_02: It just works.
• 19:11
  Look,
• 19:12
  if we're going to get into this discussion,
• 19:14
  the best working device is the Apple TV.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_02: Apple TV is just so slick and so quick and
• 19:24
  everything just loads super fast whatever Roku is like almost
• 19:31
  as fast it's a little
• 19:34
  clunky you know I mean it's not smooth even you gotta admit
• 19:37
  that when you're
• 19:38
  clicking around or whatever it's like clunk clunk clunk clunk
• 19:41
  clunk clunk clunk you
• 19:42
  know it's too many sound effects or something I know you can
• 19:45
  turn it off but like
• 19:47
  mine I have mine set on like fucking like George of the Jungle
• 19:50
  background or some
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: bullshit right
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_02: And every time I click around in my apps,
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_02: it goes into like a tom-tom,
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_02: like an Indian drum or something.
• 20:01
  So every time I'm moving around,
• 20:03
  the app's like,
• 20:03
  thunk,
• 20:04
  thunk,
• 20:04
  thunk,
• 20:05
  thunk.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, oh, this is fucking annoying as shit.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_02: And I know I could turn that off, I just am lazy and haven't.
• 20:12
  But my point is that Roku,
• 20:15
  the thing about Roku that's been great is it just works.
• 20:18
  it's easy and it works you don't have to do anything you don't
• 20:23
  have to be in any
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_02: you know any environment like the Apple TV is kind of made for the Apple
• 20:29
  environment if you have an iPad and iPhone the Apple TV is
• 20:33
  fucking phenomenal all
• 20:35
  the different bullshit that you can do with it Roku is just
• 20:39
  plays your shit which
• 20:40
  is what ultimately most of us want anyways just to play our
• 20:43
  shit I hope to God Fox
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_02: doesn't ruin it
• 20:50
  but I totally think they will I just think they will I can't I
• 20:56
  cannot fathom that
• 20:57
  they're going to spend and they spend a shitload of money on
• 20:59
  this so they're
• 21:00
  putting their grips at 22 billion wow 22 billion that's a lot
• 21:08
  so for 22 billion I
• 21:09
  don't think they're going to say okay well now we have this new
• 21:11
  car we're not going
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_02: to drive it I don't think they're going to do that at all
• 21:17
  I think they're going to say this new car would run great with
• 21:19
  our engine.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_02: Don't you think?
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_03: I mean,
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_03: again,
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_03: like I said,
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_03: anytime a corporation puts their fingers into anything that's,
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_03: been developed and,
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_03: kind of homegrown to where you like it,
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_03: they always come in and just,
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_03: well,
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_03: we can make it better.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_03: No, you don't.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_03: You just make it worse.
• 21:41
  and Roku's been making their own product worse lately not bad
• 21:48
  but like I'm sure
• 21:49
  you've noticed there's a lot of commercials on the home screens
• 21:53
  now and now if you
• 21:55
  hit pause like if your doorbell rings or something and you hit
• 21:59
  pause now it pops up
• 22:01
  a big ad that covers your whole screen so when you come back
• 22:06
  you're looking at
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_02: Omaha Steaks or whatever the fuck
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's like, that's obnoxious.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_02: And that is, Tubi does the same thing.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_02: Which is why I think Roku does the same thing now.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like,
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_02: well,
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_02: if Tubi does it,
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_02: you think they're not going to put it on all their devices?
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_02: Of course they are.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_02: They're going to put more ads in there.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_03: They've got to make back that $22 billion somehow.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think $500 a commercial is going to do it.
• 22:40
  not anytime soon that's a lot of that's a lot of 500s I guess
• 22:45
  maybe eventually but
• 22:47
  the other thing just in general and not necessarily only to
• 22:50
  Roku but just in
• 22:51
  general how come these companies that specialize in television
• 22:59
  can't figure out how
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_02: to put the commercials in correctly why is that so fucking hard
• 23:07
  constantly on all of these things on Tubi on Roku on Pluto they
• 23:13
  cut off a scene or
• 23:15
  whatever a second too early and then when they come back from
• 23:19
  the commercial then
• 23:20
  you catch one second of the old scene and then it goes into the
• 23:24
  new scene yeah they
• 23:26
  do it all the time and I and I don't I don't get it I don't get
• 23:32
  why they can't
• 23:34
  I know how they do it at regular TV stations there's like a
• 23:37
  tone or something plays
• 23:39
  a tone and the tone triggers the you know the listening API to
• 23:44
  funnel in a
• 23:45
  commercial why is that so hard for streaming for some reason
• 23:50
  doesn't make any sense
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sure it's all the same fucking stuff but
• 23:55
  I don't know I just saw this and was like I should tell you
• 23:58
  about this one because
• 24:00
  I didn't know about that I didn't see any news on it I didn't
• 24:03
  see any headlines
• 24:04
  nothing and you're with me you think it's gonna just totally
• 24:07
  fuck oh yeah it always
• 24:08
  does tell me tell me when a corporation takes over something
• 24:13
  that's cool that it
• 24:15
  remains it remains good yeah tell me anything good that's big
• 24:22
  is there anything
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_02: good that's in a that's a big corporation anything
• 24:25
  No I can't think of one thing The only thing that I'm happy
• 24:33
  with the service I
• 24:34
  never have a problem with is Amazon And they make the fire
• 24:38
  stick I'm not talking
• 24:40
  about TV I'm talking about a corporation service that's big and
• 24:45
  is good Sure,
• 24:46
  but even that service if we're going to really pick apart used
• 24:50
  to be you could
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_02: order it and have it tomorrow
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_02: Now you got to order it and you got to pay extra to get it tomorrow.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_03: I haven't experienced that.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_02: Well, it's because you're a subscriber.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, that is true.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_02: So you pay your $15 a month to get your, what, two-day shipping now?
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_02: It's not next day anymore.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_03: Well, a lot of it I get the next day.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_03: It says if you order within six hours, it'll be delivered tomorrow.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_02: See, every time I order anything on it, it tells me
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_02: Well,
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_02: you can pay three more dollars and get tomorrow,
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_02: or you can wait a day and get it for free.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_02: So I always wait the day and get it for free.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_03: but typically if I'm ordering something,
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_03: if you order within 45 minutes,
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_03: you can get tomorrow delivery.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_02: I never get that.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_02: I never, never get that.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_03: And I purchase 90% of what I use through Amazon.
• 25:51
  I used to I've switched more to Walmart I used the Walmart Plus
• 25:56
  Just because
• 25:57
  Honestly just because it gives me Paramount Plus free with my
• 26:00
  Well it's the same
• 26:02
  shit It's the same cost and I get a free channel Right see that
• 26:07
  You know so I It's
• 26:08
  the only reason I would ever have Paramount Plus I fucking hate
• 26:11
  their That's a
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_02: whole other problem I have with the fucking Um
• 26:17
  with the devices I hate like all of these things that we're
• 26:23
  getting conglomerated
• 26:24
  into suck I mean Disney with Hulu does anybody if you liked
• 26:30
  Hulu were you watching
• 26:32
  Disney probably not probably not a ton right I mean as an adult
• 26:39
  what would you
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_02: watch on Disney the Star Wars bullshit I guess
• 26:45
  and they have one of those universes DC or Marvel I don't know
• 26:50
  which one because I
• 26:51
  don't care but they have that but like I mean honestly dude
• 26:56
  Paramount Plus do you
• 26:58
  watch I know you watch Dutton Ranch and we watched Yellowstone
• 27:04
  can you name three
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_02: others that you've watched on it?
• 27:07
  No I mean I'm not like you know I don't watch a lot of TV I
• 27:12
  mean I've been
• 27:14
  over the last I'm going to say the last two years I go
• 27:19
  literally months without
• 27:23
  watching a TV show and then you might mention something or
• 27:29
  someone my nephew might
• 27:30
  mention something and they'll say hey such and such is on
• 27:35
  Netflix or something some
• 27:37
  documentary or something and then I'll flip the TV on and maybe
• 27:41
  watch it if I'm
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_03: interested
• 27:42
  but outside of that that's not a daily thing for me at all and
• 27:47
  this shit has gotten
• 27:48
  so expensive now that everybody's going back to pirating piracy
• 27:53
  was gone at the
• 27:55
  pandemic time there was almost zero piracy going on maybe some
• 28:00
  football games here
• 28:01
  and there but for the very most part there was no piracy going
• 28:05
  on when when every
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_02: service was like eight bucks a month
• 28:11
  now everybody pirates everything because fucking YouTube TV is
• 28:16
  $90 a month 90 a
• 28:18
  month yeah $83 a month for for YouTube television well it's
• 28:25
  it's like cable it has
• 28:27
  70 80 channels no I get that but but it's it's almost 100 bucks
• 28:32
  a month yeah it's
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_03: $1,200 a year for YouTube TV are you shitting me no holy cow no
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_02: Dude, what's the other one?
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_02: Fubo.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_02: Fubo is right in that range.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_02: Direct TVs, $70 a month.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well that I get the direct TV thing.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_02: But that's for streaming.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's a streaming thing now.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_02: That's a streaming thing.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_02: And $70 a month.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_03: See, I don't have any of that stuff.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_02: I have Paramount because I get it free with my Walmart subscription.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_02: That's it.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_02: I spend the bulk of my time
• 29:10
  watching Tubi or the Roku channel honestly and Tubi bringing
• 29:20
  this back around to
• 29:21
  the Fox and the Roku discussion Tubi is the only thing that's
• 29:25
  giving me a little
• 29:26
  bit of hope because Tubi is really really good has a few too
• 29:31
  many commercials for
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_02: my taste like they all do but the way Tubi works is pretty cool
• 29:40
  Tubi did host the Super Bowl a couple of years ago that was
• 29:43
  pretty cool that shows
• 29:44
  you that Fox is willing to use it to put their biggest stuff on
• 29:48
  it which is good
• 29:49
  and overall it works pretty well Tubi does so my thought is
• 29:58
  they're not going to
• 30:00
  come in and rock the boat too hard at least not initially I
• 30:06
  just wonder if
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_02: How many Rokus do you have?
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_02: Two Two?
• 30:12
  I wonder if you're going to have to buy two new devices I don't
• 30:16
  know In the next
• 30:17
  year and a half because everything on your screen is fucking
• 30:20
  Buy Fox One for $30 a
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_02: month so that you can get all the Fox channels You know,
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_02: so you can get Fox News and Fox Sports and blah,
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_02: blah,
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_02: blah You know,
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_02: even that Their sports package is $30 $30
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_02: for Fox 1 so that you can watch, what, the football games?
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_02: Who's going to do that?
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_02: Wouldn't you just rather just buy, what is that football thing?
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_02: Sunday ticket or whatever?
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the NFL package.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_02: NFL ticket, Sunday ticket, whatever.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_03: Sunday ticket, yeah.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
• 30:59
  wouldn't you buy that instead of Fox 1 where you're only going
• 31:02
  to get the games
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_02: that are on Fox?
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• 31:47
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• 31:49
  just uh yet again like we were saying the beginning of the show
• 31:54
  anytime the
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_02: corporations get involved everything's wrecked tv is now kind of fucked
• 32:00
  you know in the next in the next six months we're gonna see HBO
• 32:03
  go away we're gonna
• 32:05
  see Tubi or the Roku channel go away we're gonna have all these
• 32:12
  devices owned by
• 32:13
  three companies basically by Fox by Google by Amazon and by
• 32:19
  Walmart Walmart has the
• 32:21
  ONN device the ON but four major corporations will own all the
• 32:26
  devices and the TVs
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_02: didn't Walmart buy
• 32:31
  TCL or something I think Walmart bought one because they saw
• 32:35
  this as you know it's
• 32:38
  if you look past the devices it makes sense they're all looking
• 32:41
  for their way to
• 32:43
  deliver their product to you right of course you know that's
• 32:46
  what they're all
• 32:47
  looking to do but man that is a the thing they care least about
• 32:54
  is the user
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_02: experience they don't give a fuck about
• 32:59
  and I know I saw this at one point and I don't know it just
• 33:02
  sort of went away but I
• 33:03
  know it's gonna come there they're already making TVs that have
• 33:10
  like a lip on the
• 33:11
  bottom of them that is a digital screen have you seen these yet
• 33:16
  no what is it the
• 33:18
  digital screen on the bottom is to play commercials all the
• 33:22
  time so when you're
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_02: watching TV
• 33:26
  so let's say you're watching the new episode of Dutton Ranch
• 33:31
  while you're watching
• 33:31
  the new episode of Dutton Ranch on your TV there's like a lip
• 33:36
  underneath where it
• 33:37
  ends now like where it ends now that's another little TV about
• 33:41
  yay big like two
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: belt sizes big okay underneath it that's a video screen that'll be like
• 33:49
  Snap into a Slim Jim now it doesn't have audio but it's just
• 33:53
  you know it's
• 33:54
  constantly showing you like at a baseball game you know a
• 33:57
  baseball game and you see
• 33:58
  yeah yeah yeah like they do around the around the perimeter of
• 34:02
  the field and it's
• 34:06
  like Jesus Christ do I have to be fed advertising while I'm
• 34:11
  watching my promotion
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_02: my commercial dude Roku
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_02: When you're watching a TV show on the Roku channel,
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_02: I tend to watch like Law and Order or Homicide Life on the Street,
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_02: those kind of cop shows on the Roku channel.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_02: And whenever Roku goes to a commercial now,
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_02: it puts a thing up on the top of the screen that says,
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_02: this is an interactive ad.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_02: Press OK and we'll switch you to that ad.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_02: So if you're watching...
• 34:46
  Law & Order or whatever you're watching a baseball game or
• 34:50
  something and that ad
• 34:51
  comes up and you touch it now you're not even watching your TV
• 34:54
  anymore now you're
• 34:55
  looking at some ad for fucking Pringles or whatever it's fucked
• 34:59
  up man they're just
• 35:02
  doing more and more to make the user experience less and less
• 35:06
  good and all of us
• 35:08
  are too dumb and too lazy to say enough I don't know how you
• 35:13
  say enough really but
• 35:15
  well the thing is is that you know back in uh 2010 roughly
• 35:20
  around 2010 that's when
• 35:22
  the that's when the uh cable cutters were starting to become
• 35:26
  popular people cutting
• 35:28
  the cable and cord cutting yeah yeah cord cut cut the cord and
• 35:31
  moving to you know
• 35:33
  the Roku device or the streaming devices and stuff and we've
• 35:37
  had a good 15 or 16
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_03: year run with that yeah well now the uh
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_03: big corporations that fed us television for decades.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_03: They're going, well, we're going to have to infiltrate that somehow.
• 35:52
  So we're just going to buy the devices that you guys are
• 35:55
  watching this shit on.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 35:58
  We're going to buy them all and we're going to feed them with
• 36:00
  nothing but our shit.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_03: So you're going to use our service whether you want it or not.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_02: Well,
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_02: and the worst part,
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_02: and this is another absolute crime,
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_02: this is coming in 2028,
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_02: but it's definitely coming.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_02: It's starting already.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_02: Do you know anything about ATSC?
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_02: Do you know what that is?
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not going to get into the whole techie thing of it.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_02: It's a standard for digital television.
• 36:38
  and there's two versions of it basically there's ATSC1 and
• 36:43
  there's ATSC3 I don't
• 36:45
  know why they don't have a 2 but they don't ATSC1 is what
• 36:51
  powered all of the
• 36:55
  remember when they went dark and they said everybody had to
• 36:58
  have a digital
• 37:00
  conformer and you could actually send in a thing and they would
• 37:04
  give you one if you
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_02: wanted to keep antenna TV
• 37:07
  do you remember that was like 2010 yeah roughly yeah well that
• 37:13
  was the conversion
• 37:15
  process was through ATSC one it went from over the air in it
• 37:21
  processed digitally
• 37:23
  and then it comes out on your TV all right that's how that all
• 37:26
  works so the TV
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_02: stations are now being they're putting pressure on the FCC
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_02: to mandate shutting off ATSC1 and making it ATSC3.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_02: Now, the difference between the two, there's two major differences.
• 37:47
  One,
• 37:48
  ATS3 lets you put in that DRM bullshit so they can control what
• 37:52
  you're watching better.
• 37:54
  They can better monitor and control what you bring into your TV
• 37:59
  from the antenna.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_02: That's the first piece of it.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_02: And the second piece of it
• 38:05
  is with the ATSC3 what was the other piece they could control
• 38:12
  that with the DRM oh
• 38:15
  they can also sell some of the bandwidth it's way better with
• 38:23
  bandwidth usage so
• 38:25
  the TV stations can sell some of their bandwidth to like the
• 38:30
  cell phone companies
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_02: or what have you all around the country so
• 38:35
  Let's just say you're using a,
• 38:37
  I don't know,
• 38:38
  we'll make it easy,
• 38:39
  a gig per second at channel 8.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_02: If you're using a gig per second to output and then you switch to ATSC3,
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_02: you might be using half a gig per second.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_02: See what I mean?
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_02: So then they can make money.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they free up that half a gig that they can sublet to somebody else.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_02: So that's their...
• 39:01
  so the TV stations all the free TV stations are making a major
• 39:07
  push toward this and
• 39:09
  telling the FCC well they gotta make a change meanwhile there's
• 39:13
  not a fucking TV
• 39:14
  set that's being made that's ATSC 3 not one so when this goes
• 39:20
  through probably by
• 39:21
  the end of this year these TV companies that make Sanyo and TCL
• 39:28
  and Hisense and all
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_02: the TVs Sony
• 39:32
  are going to have to scramble to make ATSC 3 or else they won't
• 39:36
  be allowed to sell
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_02: their TVs anymore.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_02: So you know what that's going to do?
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_02: The cost of TVs that right now is like really low?
• 39:45
  TVs are going to go back to $700 for a 50-inch screen because
• 39:52
  they've got you by the balls.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_02: You're going to have to have the standard.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like none of these devices work on this.
• 40:02
  none of them no no tableaus no antennas nothing will work
• 40:07
  because they're all ATSC1
• 40:10
  so everything is going to have to be repurchased it's a fucking
• 40:15
  nightmare it's a
• 40:17
  fucking nightmare who watches over the air television I do do
• 40:22
  you absolutely I did
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_02: okay I use it so that for like football you know why
• 40:31
  and I know we've talked about this I'm not going to have a
• 40:34
  subscription to watch
• 40:36
  football on Netflix Prime Peacock Paramount ABC ESPN I'm not
• 40:46
  going to have all
• 40:46
  those subscriptions to watch football I'm going to have an
• 40:50
  antenna that is set up
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_02: and I'm going to watch the Fox game and the NBC game and the
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_02: and the CBS game on my antenna TV.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_02: Because again, I'm not willing to spend $90 a month for YouTube TV.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_03: I personally haven't had an antenna television in 25 years.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_02: I have what's called a Tableau.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_02: It's a little device.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_02: It's actually pretty cool.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's this little device.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_02: You set it up.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_02: in whatever room has the best reception.
• 41:29
  Like you set your antenna up wherever and you set up where it
• 41:32
  has good reception.
• 41:34
  And then it's connected to your internet so you can watch from
• 41:39
  any TV in your house.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like you don't have to move the antennas around or anything.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_02: The antenna, like the tableau is staged.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like I have my tableaus in this room.
• 41:49
  but I have this TV here that doesn't even have it on it but my
• 41:54
  living room TV and
• 41:55
  my bedroom TV I just have a Tableau app and when it comes time
• 41:59
  for the Browns game
• 42:00
  or whatever I just flip over to whatever channel they're on and
• 42:04
  I watch it on the
• 42:06
  antenna works fine it's actually cleaner the signal is cleaner
• 42:12
  than when you watch
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_02: it on streaming it's just a cleaner signal
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's a different platform, too.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 42:21
  So,
• 42:21
  yeah,
• 42:21
  there's a zillion changes coming with this TV shit,
• 42:24
  but none of it's very good either.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_03: Well, why would it?
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, money just ruins everything.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_03: Just wrecks it.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_02: It's just sad.
• 42:38
  Because,
• 42:39
  you know,
• 42:39
  me and Darla's talk about this all the time,
• 42:42
  that we...
• 42:45
  because he's a big cord cut guy too I don't know if you know
• 42:49
  that or not but that's
• 42:51
  how him and I have become really very good friends is we talk
• 42:56
  about TV all the time
• 42:57
  like he's my TV buddy and we talk about TV all the time and we
• 43:03
  joke all the time
• 43:04
  about how like the pandemic was the end of good streaming TV
• 43:12
  streaming is dead now
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_02: I think
• 43:14
  I think streaming is just cable you know I mean you remember
• 43:18
  dude even 10 years ago
• 43:20
  man it was exciting it was exciting to get Hulu and oh yeah
• 43:25
  because it was
• 43:26
  something we never had access to before and just having the
• 43:30
  ability to watch it
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_02: whenever you wanted to you know what I mean you you could
• 43:38
  a movie would come out and I mean I know we're old but I
• 43:42
  remember Saturdays at 8pm
• 43:45
  I used to go over to my friend John and Scott Purcell's house
• 43:50
  at 8pm because they
• 43:52
  had HBO right and we would get there at 8pm and whatever the
• 43:56
  movie was that's what
• 43:58
  we were watching because it was like a new movie yeah of course
• 44:01
  remember the and it
• 44:02
  had the and now our feature presented it had the HBO flying in
• 44:06
  and all that shit
• 44:08
  you know it was like a big deal it was cool and then when
• 44:12
  streaming came it was
• 44:13
  like wait a minute I don't have to wait for this shit anymore
• 44:17
  yeah it's on demand
• 44:18
  or god damn it I missed the first hour of Godzilla I might as
• 44:22
  well not watch it now
• 44:24
  you know now we got to streaming and it was like hey I can
• 44:27
  watch this at 2 in the
• 44:28
  morning or 4 in the afternoon or whatever I want it was so cool
• 44:34
  and it was
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_02: affordable and it just was great
• 44:38
  and now it's just a shit show it's an absolute shit show
• 44:44
  everything we loved we now
• 44:45
  don't like dude how bad is Netflix now honestly well the only
• 44:51
  thing that I watch on
• 44:52
  Netflix is the documentaries sure they still they still do well
• 44:58
  very well on
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_02: documentaries yeah and to be fair to them on that point
• 45:04
  watching that thing today on Peacock I know you thought more
• 45:08
  than once I wish
• 45:08
  Netflix would have done this because Peacock doesn't do as good
• 45:12
  of a job in the
• 45:13
  documentaries as Netflix Netflix are the kings of documentaries
• 45:17
  yeah they're great
• 45:18
  but Netflix also used to be the kings of man when it was a
• 45:22
  Netflix original that
• 45:25
  was just a watch I didn't even care what it was I would watch
• 45:29
  it because Netflix
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_02: originals for a while there were great
• 45:34
  you know and you know when they had House of Cards and Orange
• 45:38
  is the New Black and
• 45:41
  Ozark and you know even Stranger Things recently up until the
• 45:45
  last season you know
• 45:47
  it just was good it was such good television now the day I
• 45:57
  finally convinced my mom
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_02: to cancel my Netflix because she had me on as like the buddy
• 46:02
  even though i really wasn't using it i i kept telling her i
• 46:06
  mean it was it was
• 46:07
  cheap it was like eight dollars a month or something and she
• 46:10
  she kept me on it
• 46:11
  because it's a long story but it was my account and then she
• 46:16
  didn't want to lose
• 46:17
  her playlist or whatever her her history in her playlist okay
• 46:22
  so when they cracked
• 46:24
  down on passwords i just gave her my account you know i said
• 46:28
  here you can use this
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_02: and just use your profile
• 46:31
  you know on my account but the account went to her so her she
• 46:36
  was like well I'll do
• 46:36
  you a solid and I'll pay for the the password thing the share
• 46:41
  password thing which
• 46:42
  is like nine dollars a month but I never use it that's almost
• 46:46
  like a whole new
• 46:46
  subscription yeah well it basically is it's like a dollar well
• 46:50
  now it's now it's
• 46:51
  cheaper because now the subscription is like 16 bucks isn't it
• 46:55
  no for I think my
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_02: mine is like 12 bucks is it 12 I don't know yeah yeah
• 47:01
  I do not know I just know I was like not using it and I told my
• 47:06
  mom for a solid
• 47:07
  year I was like go ahead and cancel that I'm not watching it
• 47:11
  and I would pop in
• 47:13
  about once a month looking half the shits in fucking Korean or
• 47:20
  Japanese or
• 47:21
  something because you know why because I made the goddamn
• 47:24
  mistake of watching the
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_02: squid game
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_02: So I watched the Squid Game and then everything it feeds me is,
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_02: hey,
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_02: here's BTS and here's this Korean fucking thing or here's this.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_02: Now they think I speak every fucking language.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_02: Here's a thing on Chernobyl, all in Russian.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, why?
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_02: I'm an American.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_02: I'm watching in fucking Ohio, you dumb fucks.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_02: You know, but no, I just, Netflix went to shit.
• 47:54
  Hulu went to shit because everybody stopped putting all their
• 47:59
  content on it.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_02: Remember when Hulu started, everything was on it.
• 48:03
  Like you no longer needed a cable package because you could
• 48:06
  just watch it the next
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_02: day on Hulu,
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_02: all the channels,
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_02: CBS,
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_02: ABC,
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_02: Fox,
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_02: and NBC.
• 48:14
  They were all on there and then they all started launching
• 48:16
  their own shit.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_02: And it just went to shit.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_02: Everything has gone to shit.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_02: I hate it now.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_02: I hate it.
• 48:25
  I mean you've talked to me several times about doing a TV
• 48:29
  podcast and I clearly I
• 48:30
  think if nothing else this conversation definitely shows that I
• 48:33
  pay attention to it
• 48:35
  like I'm very involved in it I'm invested in it but I don't
• 48:39
  think I could do a good
• 48:40
  podcast on it because I hate it all so much now you disdain it
• 48:44
  now I hate it I'd be
• 48:45
  like alright let's talk about fucking sling TV today they're
• 48:49
  raising their prices
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_02: big news right folks
• 48:54
  you know it's like fuck everything is just wrecked and before
• 48:58
  long you're only
• 48:59
  gonna have four apps anyway you're only gonna have Disney Roku
• 49:04
  Apple and Fox that's
• 49:07
  it because everything and YouTube TV because everything else is
• 49:11
  getting bought
• 49:13
  everything is getting bought up fucking sucks yep well that's
• 49:19
  what happens I mean
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_03: the the regular
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_03: television providers got basically ignored.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
• 49:31
  And they're just like,
• 49:32
  well,
• 49:32
  we've got to figure out a way to get back into the game.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_02: Well, their way sucks a dick.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_02: In fact, it sucks a bag of dicks, a whole bag.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_02: Their way really blows.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_02: I hate it.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_03: Well...
• 49:48
  it's unfortunate but I guess you're gonna have to find you know
• 49:51
  some other form of
• 49:53
  entertainment now you know I found other ways sure I'm not that
• 50:00
  guy that's just
• 50:00
  gonna be like well I'm just gonna take it in the ass looking
• 50:05
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• 50:38
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it just really is.
• 50:43
  It's really sad that they would run off a guy like me that so
• 50:46
  worships television.
• 50:47
  television is my even more than music I know we're doing the
• 50:50
  classic metal show
• 50:51
  whatever television is my number one passion I love TV I like
• 50:57
  music I love TV and I
• 51:02
  ain't got a lot of love for any of it anymore I really don't I
• 51:06
  mean even the shows
• 51:07
  the shows are all fucking fucked up now because when they had
• 51:12
  that writer's strike
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_02: they replaced all the good writers with cheaper fucking chicks and
• 51:17
  So now everything is a goddamn contest of how can we make the
• 51:20
  woman the hero and
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_02: the guy the asshole?
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_03: Right, of course.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, wait a minute.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_02: Straight white guy.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_02: Get him off the fucking set.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_02: We need a black faggot in here to make this show work.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I mean, they've wrecked it on every level.
• 51:35
  They fired all the good writers,
• 51:37
  which is why there's no good TV shows anymore.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_02: The only good TV show.
• 51:42
  You notice that even the only good TV shows are written by
• 51:44
  about three different guys now.
• 51:47
  one of them is that Taylor Sheridan that guy has got the magic
• 51:51
  touch between
• 51:52
  Yellowstone and well Yellowstone the Dutton Ranch what else did
• 52:01
  he write he's
• 52:01
  written a couple he wrote that 1823 and 1913 those were both
• 52:05
  excellent Lawman Bass
• 52:08
  Reeves that was excellent I mean he's written a bunch of great
• 52:12
  shows right but even
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_02: that guy's petering out now
• 52:16
  you know he also wrote that fucking horrible marshals which was
• 52:19
  a real bag of shit
• 52:21
  yeah he's doing better with Dutton Ranch remember you know over
• 52:25
  20 years ago David
• 52:26
  Chase was like the guy yeah yeah him and the guy that died in
• 52:33
  the plane in 9-11
• 52:34
  remember Angel remember it was the three guys and they wrote
• 52:38
  like cheers and wings
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_02: and friends and you know they like wrote all the good shit all at once
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_02: And then that motherfucking terrorist attack had to ruin my TV,
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_02: sons of bitches Then,
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_03: the other guy that,
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_03: was the hot ticket was the guy who wrote Sons of Anarchy Oh,
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_03: Kurt Sutter,
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_03: yeah Yeah,
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_03: him,
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_03: he was a hot ticket there for a while For a minute,
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_02: but he,
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_02: apparently he's a douchebag to deal with
• 53:12
  yeah well typically most of them are yeah I mean Suns was great
• 53:15
  there's no question
• 53:16
  about that I thought Mayans was better honestly I've watched
• 53:20
  Mayans now like four
• 53:21
  or five times through in a row it was darker but it was better
• 53:25
  but he also did some
• 53:27
  less than good ones too he did that I forget what it was called
• 53:31
  but it was like mid
• 53:33
  mid what do you call that when they wear the fucking suits of
• 53:38
  armor and shit
• 53:40
  medieval times yeah he did that I forget what that show was
• 53:44
  called and I think he
• 53:45
  wrote one recently called The Abandons that was on Netflix or
• 53:50
  something and I
• 53:51
  couldn't even get past the second episode it was so fucking
• 53:54
  boring it was like
• 53:56
  Little House on the Prairie updated to today like some darker
• 54:01
  it was like darker
• 54:03
  Little House on the Prairie yeah they had they had King's X
• 54:07
  doing the soundtrack
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_02: I wish Kurt Suter would come back.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_02: I wish he would do the Sons of Anarchy son.
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's been 10 years now, hasn't it, since Sons of Anarchy?
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, longer than that.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_02: So that kid should be about 20.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_02: We could have him as the new Jax.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_02: Bring him in.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_02: Let's have that.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_02: Dude, it's got to be something good.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_02: There's got to be some way to get a good show.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Dutton Ranch is great.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you're caught up or not, so I'm not trying to see.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_03: I'm up to date.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_03: You're up to date as of today?
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_03: No, I didn't watch last night's episode.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_02: Last night's was really good.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_03: Because I'll watch that probably tomorrow.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_02: That show rocks.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_02: Holy shit.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_02: They have built a whole other universe for Yellowstone.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_02: And it's kick-ass.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_02: And it's getting better.
• 55:03
  Something you and I talked about was definitely going to
• 55:06
  happen,
• 55:06
  happened.
• 55:07
  I'm not going to tell you how I'm not going to say what it is
• 55:10
  you know what it is
• 55:12
  but it happened and wow is it a doozy I had the suspicion that
• 55:18
  that would end in a
• 55:19
  very very dramatic way oh boy wait till you see what happens
• 55:25
  well I didn't know
• 55:26
  that I was just guessing at it yeah that's a really really
• 55:32
  really good show but
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_02: that's really about it
• 55:37
  I'm even finding myself watching shows where I watch it and I
• 55:40
  get to the end of it.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, why am I watching this?
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_02: Why am I watching fucking Georgie and Mandy's first wedding or whatever?
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_02: Why am I watching this?
• 55:52
  I did enjoy The Big Bang Theory,
• 55:53
  but not enough to watch the spinoff of a spinoff.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's what that Georgie and Mandy's first marriage is about.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_02: They went from The Big Bang Theory to Young Sheldon.
• 56:08
  and then they wrote a spinoff about young Sheldon's brother so
• 56:14
  it's like a spinoff
• 56:16
  of a spinoff and I'm such a fucking idiot that I'm sitting
• 56:20
  there watching it like a
• 56:22
  dope and I get to the end of it it's not funny and I'm like why
• 56:24
  am I watching this
• 56:25
  fucking show and then I go to take it off of my device like
• 56:29
  take it off my
• 56:30
  favorites or whatever I'm like let me just wait one more and
• 56:34
  then I wait one more
• 56:34
  and next thing you know the whole fucking season's over and
• 56:36
  I've watched 22
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_02: episodes of this shit
• 56:39
  I did the same thing with that horrible night court that they
• 56:42
  tried to redo the
• 56:45
  reboot with Melissa Roush that big titty chick from the fucking
• 56:50
  Big Bang Theory
• 56:51
  yeah that's why I watched it I ain't gonna lie the girl has
• 56:54
  humongous tits so I was
• 56:56
  watching it to hopefully get a glimpse of her big fucking
• 56:58
  knockers but but yeah I
• 57:02
  don't know TV's in a bad way now I spend more time watching old
• 57:06
  TV than I do new
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_02: anymore
• 57:08
  or watching shit like I'm hooked on this show on the Roku
• 57:11
  channel called Locked In
• 57:13
  it's just they follow two or three prisoners a week in prison
• 57:19
  you know going well
• 57:20
  you showed us from last week yeah yeah yeah I'm hooked on that
• 57:25
  show but that's just
• 57:27
  reality TV yeah that's like cops yeah it's nothing you know
• 57:32
  there's nothing
• 57:33
  creative and good out there right now and please if anybody has
• 57:37
  suggestions
• 57:38
  I'm certainly up for anything because I'm bored to tears with
• 57:41
  everything that's on
• 57:42
  TV right now I could use any sort of a boost like I said I'm
• 57:48
  watching I was
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_02: watching a three hour right before the show I was watching a three hour
• 57:53
  interrogation of some fucking dude that killed a family in a
• 57:57
  drunk driving crash
• 58:00
  why was I sitting there watching it God only knows because the
• 58:04
  guy wasn't even
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_02: interesting
• 58:08
  he was just boring trying to make up his lies to the cops about
• 58:11
  I wasn't drinking I
• 58:13
  don't know how you got a .23 on my blood alcohol fuck out of
• 58:17
  here you dick look at
• 58:21
  Jim in the chat room leave it to Beaver God are you old when
• 58:28
  was leave it to Beaver
• 58:29
  50s yeah seriously late 50s into the very early 60s that shit
• 58:35
  is 80 years old Jim
• 58:39
  for God's sakes Jim why don't you reach into your fucking
• 58:43
  catalog and pull out the
• 58:44
  newspaper article about the sinking of the Titanic holy shit
• 58:50
  could he go with
• 58:51
  something else old good God my mother the car Adam 12 one Adam
• 58:58
  12 I love Adam 12
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  but that's from the 60s or whatever isn't it yeah late 60s into
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  the early 70s yeah
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  SPEAKER_02: all those goofy shows my favorite Martian
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_02: wasn't that the 60s yeah Mr.
• 59:10
  Ed Gilligan yeah all that shit early 60s or late 60s early
• 59:18
  early 70s that was not a
• 59:22
  bad it's funny because I'll bet you at the time my my dad and
• 59:26
  your dad were
• 59:26
  probably sitting about this is fucking stupid why do these guys
• 59:29
  just build a boat
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_02: and get off this dumb island fucking idiots
• 59:35
  you know I guess I know my dad used to say that to me all the
• 59:38
  time is like that's
• 59:39
  fucking show but he was always like you know if this guy could
• 59:43
  build a radio out of
• 59:44
  a coconut he could probably build a little boat and I would
• 59:48
  just laugh at him
• 59:49
  because he was like serious he was like he would get angry at
• 59:53
  the stupidity of the
• 59:54
  show well it was it was you know mindless humor wasn't you know
• 1:00:00
  something that
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_03: people
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_03: because it led to laziness.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're right.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_02: I never even thought of it that way, but that is very true.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I just always, you know, I laughed at it.
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  SPEAKER_02: My dad hated all that shit except for the one or two really good ones,
• 1:00:22
  SPEAKER_02: which he would somehow,
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_02: as dumb as all those shows were,
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_02: he would watch equally dumb but awesome,
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_02: like
• 1:00:31
  the Three Stooges Rascals of course I have all those
• 1:00:36
  Honeymooners you know he would
• 1:00:38
  watch all that shit and that's just you can't tell me that the
• 1:00:42
  Honeymooners is any
• 1:00:45
  more sophisticated than Gilligan's Island and boy this is a
• 1:00:49
  hell of a segment isn't
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_02: it but I mean seriously is is the Honeymooners
• 1:00:59
  SPEAKER_02: somehow more highbrow than Gilligan's Island?
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_03: Well, it appealed to the blue-collar working class
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_03: because Ralph Crandon was a bus driver and had the wife at home,
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_03: Alice,
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_03: and then he had the goofy friend next door.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_03: It was, you know, it was... Relatable, I guess, maybe?
• 1:01:23
  Relatable because he was just a blue-collar working man having
• 1:01:28
  to deal with the
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_03: nonsense of day-to-day life.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 1:01:33
  SPEAKER_02: Dealing with a cunt wife and a shitty job.
• 1:01:36
  exactly when you look at the honeymooners he really did have a
• 1:01:39
  really awful life
• 1:01:41
  yeah he had horrible neighbors he had a shitty job Norton
• 1:01:47
  Norton was an idiot yeah
• 1:01:49
  Norton was an idiot the wife was even worse whatever her name
• 1:01:52
  was well I mean no
• 1:01:57
  Alice Alice no that was his wife what was the neighbor's wife
• 1:02:01
  oh I don't remember I
• 1:02:03
  SPEAKER_02: think she was Ethel right
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it might have been Ethel, yeah.
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_03: Ethel, weren't they the Mertzes?
• 1:02:08
  SPEAKER_03: No, that was, I Love Lucy.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_02: I Love Luce, that's right, yeah.
• 1:02:14
  No,
• 1:02:14
  but the Honeymooners was sort of like the precursor to
• 1:02:19
  Seinfeld,
• 1:02:20
  in a way.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you had Jerry Seinfeld, which would have been, what's his name?
• 1:02:30
  Jackie Gleason Jackie Gleason yeah and then you had the goofy
• 1:02:32
  neighbor which would
• 1:02:33
  have been Kramer right and then you had the wife which which
• 1:02:36
  would have been Elaine
• 1:02:37
  lean yeah you know I thought of it that way yeah so it's sort
• 1:02:41
  of like an early
• 1:02:42
  Seinfeld in a way right yeah it kind of is yeah I just remember
• 1:02:47
  my dad what would
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_02: watch this shit and he would get so annoyed at the dumb ones he would get
• 1:02:55
  but every once in a while he would watch one like religious
• 1:02:58
  like he was big into
• 1:02:59
  like he would hate all the goofy bullshit and then he would be
• 1:03:05
  front and center to
• 1:03:07
  watch Battlestar Galactica or Star Trek or Star Trek yeah Star
• 1:03:13
  Trek I kind of like
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_03: that I watch Star Trek
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_02: It was okay, I guess.
• 1:03:22
  SPEAKER_02: Well, it was ahead of its time.
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_02: For the time, yeah.
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was ahead of its time.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
• 1:03:28
  SPEAKER_02: for 1965 or whatever,
• 1:03:31
  SPEAKER_02: it was definitely ahead of its time,
• 1:03:33
  SPEAKER_02: but it doesn't make it a great show.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_02: It just made it ahead of its time.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_03: Well, but it was way different than anything else on TV.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_02: Well, it was.
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_02: It definitely was.
• 1:03:44
  But I always just found it weird that my dad would get mad
• 1:03:47
  about Gilligan not
• 1:03:48
  SPEAKER_02: building a fucking boat.
• 1:03:50
  was like watching Battlestar Galactica or watching Jim fight
• 1:03:58
  the fucking green
• 1:04:00
  SPEAKER_02: monster so he can kiss the green woman or whatever on the planet.
• 1:04:03
  SPEAKER_03: Well, the difference is that Gilligan's Island was buffoonery.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 1:04:09
  SPEAKER_03: Which is where Randy Trask got his album title from.
• 1:04:13
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 1:04:14
  but but situation comedy kind of like you know like the
• 1:04:18
  honeymooners that wasn't
• 1:04:20
  buffoonery right so so I think that's I think that's what maybe
• 1:04:26
  drove your dad nuts
• 1:04:28
  probably wish we could ask him but nope won't get to ask him on
• 1:04:34
  Father's Day that's
• 1:04:35
  for sure right unless I go out to some lake out there somewhere
• 1:04:39
  and talk to the
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_02: water dad are you listening
• 1:04:43
  put my face in the water he'll be like Tommy boy when he's
• 1:04:48
  sitting out in his
• 1:04:49
  little dingy dad if you're listening I could use some wind here
• 1:04:53
  that's about what
• 1:04:56
  SPEAKER_02: it'd be too yeah to swing it around to wrap this up TV stinks now yeah
• 1:05:05
  I agree that's probably the reason why I don't really watch
• 1:05:08
  much TV aside from you
• 1:05:11
  know something that's recommended to me and you know people you
• 1:05:15
  know you you know
• 1:05:16
  my taste my nephews know my taste and they'll they'll hit me up
• 1:05:20
  and say hey there's
• 1:05:21
  this good cool documentary on such and such a channel go check
• 1:05:25
  that out you know
• 1:05:26
  SPEAKER_03: and typically it's pretty good but how many times
• 1:05:31
  I mean dude me and you have been doing this show together for
• 1:05:33
  933 years at this
• 1:05:35
  point how many non-documentaries have we ever agreed to watch
• 1:05:44
  not many five yeah
• 1:05:47
  Yellowstone yep Dutton Ranch Sons of Amory Animal Kingdom
• 1:05:53
  Animal Kingdom yep
• 1:05:56
  and then it starts to really drift away and then that other one
• 1:05:59
  with Jeff Bridges
• 1:06:00
  what was it the man oh yeah something like the hopeless man or
• 1:06:07
  something I forget
• 1:06:07
  something man yeah it was on Hulu yeah that one only lasted two
• 1:06:14
  seasons yeah and
• 1:06:17
  then I think one of them that I suggested to you and I don't
• 1:06:20
  know if you ever
• 1:06:21
  SPEAKER_03: watched it was that Barry yeah I watched Barry
• 1:06:25
  yeah that was pretty good right that was okay yeah that was
• 1:06:29
  good you know there but
• 1:06:31
  there's a lot of those at the same time you also had Dexter at
• 1:06:33
  the same time and
• 1:06:35
  Dexter was good but you didn't watch Dexter did you no I did
• 1:06:38
  not watch Dexter
• 1:06:40
  Dexter's good for like the first four seasons of Dexter is
• 1:06:45
  excellent then they
• 1:06:47
  brought Jimmy Smits in and then it got dumb but then they
• 1:06:51
  they've done like a
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_02: couple of rebirths of it that have been okay
• 1:06:55
  you know that they go up and down with Dexter comes back and
• 1:06:59
  it's okay and I mean
• 1:07:01
  the whole premise is stupid the whole he's a serial killer that
• 1:07:05
  works as a fucking
• 1:07:06
  blood analyst at the at the police station that's kind of
• 1:07:09
  stupid yeah but you know
• 1:07:12
  okay show but but you know to the point we were making I mean
• 1:07:17
  this is in 15 years
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_02: and we're naming five yeah that's pretty poor
• 1:07:26
  5 shows in 15 fucking years with a guy like myself that admits
• 1:07:32
  that he's totally
• 1:07:34
  addicted to television and I can't come up with more than 5
• 1:07:38
  recommendations for you
• 1:07:41
  every recommendation I've ever given you that I can think of is
• 1:07:44
  a documentary that
• 1:07:46
  fucking guy that ran the tank through the town or whatever yeah
• 1:07:51
  Tread that was good
• 1:07:54
  SPEAKER_02: the crash recently was good
• 1:07:56
  although I'm not gonna take credit for that that's a Jim
• 1:07:58
  Florentine one so that's
• 1:08:00
  he gets the credit for that I just passed it along which by the
• 1:08:05
  way the reason he's
• 1:08:06
  not on here tonight thousand percent my fault he texted me like
• 1:08:12
  an hour ago and he
• 1:08:13
  was like hey when am I coming on I was like holy fuck I totally
• 1:08:18
  totally forgot I
• 1:08:19
  was like I totally forgot we'll do it he's not available later
• 1:08:23
  this evening
• 1:08:25
  because we're using this instead of Zoom or whatever I want to
• 1:08:31
  test it with it
• 1:08:31
  because remember last time it was all fucked up and we couldn't
• 1:08:34
  figure it out for
• 1:08:34
  10 minutes or whatever to get them on do you remember that yeah
• 1:08:40
  I don't want to do
• 1:08:41
  that I want to I want to test with him during the week and then
• 1:08:45
  make sure it works
• 1:08:46
  SPEAKER_02: so that it's just and he's on I don't want to have a problem so
• 1:08:51
  we'll get him on a different week after Saturday nights this is
• 1:08:57
  when he's driving
• 1:08:58
  home usually driving home or going back to the hotel to hang
• 1:09:02
  out until he flies
• 1:09:02
  home in the morning so we'll get him I want to thank him for
• 1:09:07
  name checking the shit
• 1:09:09
  out of me the last couple of weeks on his podcast that's
• 1:09:12
  awesome name checked me a
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_02: couple of times for stories I sent him thank you Jim
• 1:09:20
  SPEAKER_02: Much appreciated.
• 1:09:23
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_03: For you TV watchers, that's your hour's worth of TV talk.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_03: We'll get to some music.
• 1:09:32
  SPEAKER_03: We know that Chris loves his TV, but he's slowly turning on it.
• 1:09:37
  SPEAKER_02: I am.
• 1:09:38
  SPEAKER_02: Not slowly either.
• 1:09:39
  SPEAKER_02: I've turned on it.
• 1:09:41
  I'll still watch it because I'm like that crack addict we were
• 1:09:45
  talking about,
• 1:09:47
  SPEAKER_02: Jim Kidd or whatever his name was from the documentary.
• 1:09:51
  yeah I'm like that guy I just you know I'm obsessed looking for
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  SPEAKER_03: Alright,
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  well we're going to jump back into the tunage here Hold please
• 1:10:53
  Yes Scarfoot,
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_02: Chris,
• 1:10:55
  why not reset with the first couple seasons of Married with
• 1:10:58
  Children on Tubi?
• 1:11:00
  SPEAKER_02: I have already done that,
• 1:11:01
  sir I have watched every episode of Married with Children on
• 1:11:04
  there I would
• 1:11:05
  SPEAKER_02: recommend that to you,
• 1:11:06
  dude You will not believe what they were getting away with that
• 1:11:10
  first season I
• 1:11:12
  SPEAKER_02: watched it from the beginning I watched it at the beginning,
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_02: but I missed so much of it
• 1:11:18
  SPEAKER_03: The innuendo Yes A lot of the dirty talk Man,
• 1:11:24
  SPEAKER_02: that show was filthy when it came out It was,
• 1:11:26
  absolutely I love that show That's why everybody loved that
• 1:11:30
  show And of course
• 1:11:33
  everybody wanted to bang Christina Applegate Yeah Now they just
• 1:11:38
  want to put her in
• 1:11:38
  SPEAKER_02: a coffin and forget her
• 1:11:42
  J-Rad the last good show on regular network TV was How I Met
• 1:11:47
  Your Mother I never
• 1:11:50
  got into that one too much I've watched it it's okay and wasn't
• 1:11:55
  the guy that came
• 1:11:56
  over to Pinball PA was in that show that came over with
• 1:11:59
  Florentine that big tall
• 1:12:01
  guy he was in the show I don't know that I agree with that last
• 1:12:07
  good network TV
• 1:12:08
  SPEAKER_02: show do we consider FX as a network
• 1:12:15
  I guess that's the FX channel yeah because they've had Rescue
• 1:12:19
  Me was really good
• 1:12:21
  obviously Sons of Anarchy was really good Archer was great
• 1:12:26
  Archer was really good
• 1:12:28
  Archer was good oh man FX has had some good ones and you don't
• 1:12:33
  like cartoon I don't
• 1:12:35
  SPEAKER_02: I do not but I did enjoy Archer
• 1:12:39
  Archer made me laugh I bought every season of that it's just
• 1:12:42
  like holy shit if
• 1:12:45
  people are looking for a real kind of crimey show on FX that
• 1:12:49
  almost everybody
• 1:12:50
  missed because it's all black dudes in it there's like no white
• 1:12:53
  people in the whole
• 1:12:54
  show but it's a fucking killer show it's called Snowfall it's
• 1:13:00
  about a street kid
• 1:13:02
  SPEAKER_02: that gets involved with like the DEA and he's like
• 1:13:06
  trafficking drugs in the city for the I think it's loosely
• 1:13:10
  based on Freeway Rick
• 1:13:11
  Ross I think but great show and the only white guy in the whole
• 1:13:16
  thing was the DEA
• 1:13:17
  guy and he turned out to be a scumbag that was absolutely a
• 1:13:22
  terror to you would
• 1:13:23
  probably like that show a lot other than the black guys now
• 1:13:29
  they're backing up
• 1:13:29
  SPEAKER_03: David Lee Roth
• 1:13:31
  exactly that's where they went after Snowfall exactly and
• 1:13:34
  there's only one white
• 1:13:36
  guy on the stage well yeah Sean I was watching some video of
• 1:13:44
  him this week Jesus
• 1:13:45
  Christ I'm not even bringing it to the show anymore it's so bad
• 1:13:50
  but it's bad it's
• 1:13:51
  just routinely now he doesn't even sing this is the maybe I
• 1:13:56
  will find some and
• 1:13:57
  SPEAKER_02: bring it to the show a little later
• 1:14:00
  he's literally I think he's watched and seen so much criticism
• 1:14:05
  that now he just
• 1:14:06
  doesn't sing he gets to a part where everybody can sing and he
• 1:14:11
  just holds the mic
• 1:14:12
  down and does that dumb smile he does a Vince Neil yeah he does
• 1:14:17
  but it's it's so
• 1:14:18
  obvious and just does that big grinning well he's not even
• 1:14:22
  holding the mic out he's
• 1:14:24
  SPEAKER_02: just literally like this
• 1:14:27
  and the guys behind him are going whoa whoa whoa Jamie's crying
• 1:14:33
  and he's just
• 1:14:33
  standing there every once in a while he goes yeah you know
• 1:14:37
  that's it I mean that's
• 1:14:39
  really it good one Skippy or whoever that was whoever said The
• 1:14:46
  Shield The Shield
• 1:14:47
  was a great one I should watch The X-Files have you ever
• 1:14:51
  watched The X-Files?
• 1:14:53
  SPEAKER_03: I've watched a couple of episodes is that any good or no?
• 1:14:56
  it's alright I've never watched even one I didn't find that
• 1:15:00
  girl to be hot so I
• 1:15:01
  never watched it and that's the honest to god's truth whatever
• 1:15:05
  her name is with the
• 1:15:06
  red hair I never found her to be hot so I didn't watch the show
• 1:15:10
  and I know that's
• 1:15:11
  totally lame but gotta be honest gotta have some eye candy
• 1:15:16
  can't have a chick as a
• 1:15:17
  SPEAKER_02: star and have her be a fucking mutt it's like the same with Mad Men
• 1:15:23
  never watched Mad Men really I watched a couple episodes of it
• 1:15:27
  but I couldn't get
• 1:15:28
  into it because I didn't think that that Christina Hendricks
• 1:15:30
  while she does have
• 1:15:31
  tremendous tits I did not think that she was that hot so I just
• 1:15:36
  didn't watch it so
• 1:15:39
  SPEAKER_02: yeah Jillian Anderson thank you Scooby not hot Neighborhood 4 alright
• 1:15:53
  neighborhood four Chris needs glasses I've got glasses Ben
• 1:16:04
  right here I got some
• 1:16:07
  just don't ever wear them maybe I should to look at Jillian
• 1:16:11
  Anderson maybe she's a
• 1:16:12
  maybe she's a Hollywood aide I don't know seems like a
• 1:16:15
  neighborhood four to me
• 1:16:16
  SPEAKER_02: alright let's play music alright
• 1:16:23
  alright well you mentioned Skippy there Skippy wants to hear a
• 1:16:27
  band called Joined
• 1:16:29
  Forces doing a song called Love Reaction so here it is for
• 1:16:36
  Skippy it's Love
• 1:16:37
  SPEAKER_03: Reaction by Joined Forces exclusively here on your classic metal show