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Best of Full Interview: Allen Iverson On 'Misunderstood,' NBA Career & Relationships Challenges, Not Winning a Ring +More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day a week, clicks up the Breakfast Club, Finish
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  Speaker 1: for y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Done, morning everybody.
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  Speaker 3: It's the j n V. Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the God
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  Speaker 3: we are the Breakfast Club. Lona Ros is here as well.
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  Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 1: Man, another culture like we having a weaker culture.
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  Speaker 3: Ai Alan Chuck whatever you want to call him, Mster
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  Speaker 3: seven five seven.
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  Speaker 2: He's in the building.
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  Speaker 3: New book Misunderstood is out right now Alan Ovis. Ladies
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  Speaker 3: and gentlemen, are you feeling man?
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  Speaker 2: Good life? Life be life in the same fight, different round,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? I want to how much
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  Speaker 2: sound we got me because I don't know where it's
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  Speaker 2: gonna go. But look, man, friends, all right, so I
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  Speaker 2: know you know what type of I mean. I'm just mean, Jess,
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  Speaker 2: But you know, you know how you get to know
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  Speaker 2: somebody from afar and you get basically kind of tell
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  Speaker 2: what type of person they are. You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously I've known you since I was in high school
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  Speaker 2: and big fan of you, bro move close. I'm bad friendships, Man,
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  Speaker 2: It's hard, you know what I mean? Because when you
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  Speaker 2: think about your friends, obviously you know you can't choose
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  Speaker 2: your family members, you know what I mean, you're born
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  Speaker 2: into that. But your friends, you feel like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: y'all got so much in common with each other, and
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  Speaker 2: you have so much love for them because you know
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  Speaker 2: they kind of like a basically a reflection of you,
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  Speaker 2: or you got the same type of things in common
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  Speaker 2: or whatever, and you just grow to love them like family.
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  Speaker 2: They become you know, the guys become brothers, and your
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  Speaker 2: homegirls become your sisters. But it's rough man navigating through that,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I know how much I
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  Speaker 2: love my family, my friends. I got so much when
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  Speaker 2: I first got into the league, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: It was the entourage, bringing homeboys from where you're from.
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  Speaker 2: You trust them so much, you love them. You want
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  Speaker 2: them to go on the ride with you. You want
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  Speaker 2: them to take this journey, you know through it. It's
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  Speaker 2: new to me. I've been poor all my whole life,
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  Speaker 2: and then snap of a finger, I'm rich and famous
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  Speaker 2: and it's a lot, you know what I mean. So
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  Speaker 2: you want to have so many people around you that
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  Speaker 2: you love me and you trust, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: And the money man just you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 2: It's just you know what I mean, and it's it's
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  Speaker 2: it's so different from me, and it's so hard for
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  Speaker 2: me because with my athletic ability that I was blessed with.
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  Speaker 2: I've been like this since I was eight years old.
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  Speaker 2: Like I always felt that I was rich, but I
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  Speaker 2: was poor. I always been famous, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: When I was eight years old, I go into barbershop
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  Speaker 2: and guys, I'm a teen, eighteen, twenty twenty five years old,
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  Speaker 2: Guys like, oh shit, there you go. You know that's
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  Speaker 2: the one right there, that's him. So it's always been
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  Speaker 2: that for me. I always had that attention, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean. I always been like that. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: once I got some money, it was no different from me.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously I could do things with my family and my
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  Speaker 2: friends that I couldn't do before. You know, that's that
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  Speaker 2: goes without saying. And I've never had a person you
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  Speaker 2: know my nickname obviously, you know my name, Chuck. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I never heard a person say, you know, once Chuck
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  Speaker 2: got some money, he changed, Once Chuck got to the NBA,
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  Speaker 2: he changed, you know what I mean. I've never heard that,
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  Speaker 2: you know before, because you know, the people that know
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  Speaker 2: me and love me, and the people that I love
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  Speaker 2: know I'm meet you know what I mean. That's one
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  Speaker 2: of my biggest fears, or had been one of my
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  Speaker 2: biggest fears. Of looking in the mirror and not being
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  Speaker 2: able to recognize you know, well my mom and the
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  Speaker 2: people that I loved. Not be able to recognize who
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  Speaker 2: I see, you know what I mean, meant something to me.
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  Speaker 2: But man, just the painful lessons of friends not being
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  Speaker 2: who you think they they are. When you add the
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  Speaker 2: rut of all evil, any.
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  Speaker 1: Thing something just recently happened.
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  Speaker 2: It happens, and the reason definitely, it happens all the time.
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  Speaker 2: But I feel a pendulum swinging in another direction as
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  Speaker 2: far as how I feel about it, like how it
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  Speaker 2: used to hurt me. You know what I mean. You
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  Speaker 2: you tell someone you want to find out if somebody
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  Speaker 2: your friend, you tell them no once know and and
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  Speaker 2: their reaction with what was said all you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean? Chuck a man, I got a business, you know, opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: I want to start this. I want to start that
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  Speaker 2: man can give me a hundred thousand and you don't
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  Speaker 2: even have to tell them no. You can say not
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  Speaker 2: right now, you know later on. But these are the
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  Speaker 2: same people pay their rent, pay that over the years,
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  Speaker 2: child support. You know what I mean? You know, pay
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  Speaker 2: your mom rent. You know this, that lawyer lay. Every
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  Speaker 2: time you go to a jewelry store, you're taking them,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because the most awkward feeling is you know,
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  Speaker 2: for me, this is just me growing up, being young
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  Speaker 2: and not knowing early in the preliminary stages of getting
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  Speaker 2: some money. You know what I mean, Like I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to be shining and looking good and my homeboys not.
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  Speaker 2: So when I go see Manny, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they going You know what I mean, When I get cars,
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  Speaker 2: they get cars, you know what I mean. Like, and
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  Speaker 2: you know it's just like when you tell them no,
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  Speaker 2: the way they you know they act. You know, somebody
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  Speaker 2: saying this, yo, man, what's up with your man? They are?
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  Speaker 2: You know, what's up with a man? Fuck that nigga?
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  Speaker 4: Dangn You know what I mean, Like after reading your book,
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  Speaker 4: nobody's your question.
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  Speaker 2: You're loyal?
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  Speaker 1: You'll ever say you took care of me.
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  Speaker 3: I'm what you've seen. But do you regret that? Because
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Virginia, that's you everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I say. Dependingum is swinging. That's That's why
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  Speaker 2: I say or feel that my maturation is on a
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  Speaker 2: higher level now because back then when something traumatic will
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  Speaker 2: happen to me like that, and I see how they
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  Speaker 2: act for me telling them no, like you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean. Like it's like I feel myself not giving
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  Speaker 2: the damn anymore, Like you know what I mean. Like
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking about the same people that come to me,
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  Speaker 2: you know, be at my practice eight o'clock in the morning,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Christmas Eve, saying what their kids don't have?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean. One thing about the people
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  Speaker 2: that you love, people that love you or supposed to
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  Speaker 2: love you, is they know you better than anybody. They
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  Speaker 2: know my heart. You throw your kids in there, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean. Everybody know Christmas on the twenty
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  Speaker 2: fifth of December every year, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: But man, my kids ain't gonna have nothing, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean, what I supposed to do.
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  Speaker 4: Something you said in the book that hit me too
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  Speaker 4: is you was like, man, you was that kid, so
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  Speaker 4: you understood what it felt it not have when they
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  Speaker 4: came to you.
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  Speaker 1: You was like, I gotta do.
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  Speaker 2: And I had the mother and the father that hustled
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  Speaker 2: to get us what they could, but they couldn't get
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  Speaker 2: us things. You know, I wanted ope d for Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted certain things and then you wake up that
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  Speaker 2: morning and it's not there. You know, you may have
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  Speaker 2: a you know, past sneakers or T shirt and that
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  Speaker 2: be the only thing you get, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, I ain't never want my homeboys kids
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  Speaker 2: to you know, look at them crazy And now you know,
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  Speaker 2: like i've years ago, it's you know, I ran into
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  Speaker 2: the craziest shit. But years ago, you know, money got funny,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And you know I had
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  Speaker 2: realized at a point like I ain't have the word
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  Speaker 2: knowing my vocabulary when it comes to people, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean, Like I was so used to I
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  Speaker 2: never held anybody accountable for why I had to be
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  Speaker 2: the one taking care of everybody, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: I was the one going to work every single day.
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  Speaker 2: I was breaking bones, stitches on the stitches in my face,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And it just it just
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  Speaker 2: taught me a lot, man. And now you know, I know,
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  Speaker 2: life be lifeing, But to be still dealing with those
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  Speaker 2: type of people and caring about how they feel when
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  Speaker 2: you know what you've done for them, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: wake up, and some people wake up in their life
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  Speaker 2: just not what they wanted to be. And the first
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  Speaker 2: thing you could think of is blame it on Chuck,
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  Speaker 2: you know, figure out some way that I can blame
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  Speaker 2: it on somebody else to why my life is not
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  Speaker 2: what it is?
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  Speaker 3: And do you ever have impasta syndrome? And the reason
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  Speaker 3: I asked if you talk about all that?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 3: And I remember the Bowling Alley incident in Virginia, and
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  Speaker 3: it feels like, regardless of what happened in VA, you
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  Speaker 3: always came back and you always wanted to show the love.
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  Speaker 3: No matter what happened. You talk about the people you
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  Speaker 3: put on the city was against you, and Virginia could
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  Speaker 3: have been racist back then. It was really racist back then.
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  Speaker 3: We all seen it. But you still came back to
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  Speaker 3: that seven five seven to show love.
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  Speaker 2: I am I am VA. It's me, It's Amy, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean. And the crazy, crazy thing about
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  Speaker 2: I was just talking to my man about this before
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  Speaker 2: we got in here, so I had to do all
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  Speaker 2: the stuff, you know, all my media runs and all that.
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  Speaker 2: Yesterday I just signed a thousand books and you know,
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  Speaker 2: take a thousand pictures, you know what I mean? With
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  Speaker 2: the people that bought the books beautiful, but I was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I was tired, and right after that as
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  Speaker 2: my daughter's birthday, and I had to you know, she
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  Speaker 2: wanted to be with me, so I had to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: take care of her after all of that, and I
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  Speaker 2: got done. Maybe I started at six, got done like
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  Speaker 2: maybe ten o'clock. She wanted to go bowling and wanted
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  Speaker 2: to go to a escape room. Okay, but I had
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  Speaker 2: no idea that that the escape room was like you're
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  Speaker 2: in a jail scene, you know what I mean. I'm like, yo,
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  Speaker 2: this this is your life for real, Like, out of
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  Speaker 2: all the places that she want to go on her birthday,
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  Speaker 2: bold in a jail. You know.
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  Speaker 5: But she's smart because you got to figure out how
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  Speaker 5: she probably figured out how.
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  Speaker 2: To get But you know, I'm thinking, like the last
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  Speaker 2: place I want to be from my memory right in
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  Speaker 2: jail bowling out, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: So I mean, I want to go back to your
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  Speaker 4: friend's thing real quick, right because even in the book,
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  Speaker 4: there's nobody that felt like that was around you that
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  Speaker 4: didn't help you in some way, shape or form. So
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  Speaker 4: you was repaying them, Like you talk about how when
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  Speaker 4: you was in jail, they was taking care of your mom,
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  Speaker 4: and they were the ones that would tell you, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you're not gonna be hustling, You're gonna be
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  Speaker 4: playing ball. So it wasn't like you just had a
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  Speaker 4: bunch of leeches around you. There's people that looked out
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  Speaker 4: for you, so you look back out for them.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I would have I would have done
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  Speaker 2: it anyway. Like I ain't never expected like if I
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  Speaker 2: if I you know, if I look out for one
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  Speaker 2: of my my home boys, my home I don't expect
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  Speaker 2: you to give it back, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: I ain't never asked for nothing back, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean. I just feel like me being ahead of
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  Speaker 2: the snake. You know, it's like me. The perfect example
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  Speaker 2: is like me being on twenty and one team went
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  Speaker 2: to the finals. I'm the killer. Everybody know that this
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  Speaker 2: is the guy gonna put the ball in the basket.
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  Speaker 2: This is what he do. Now, what we do is
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  Speaker 2: compliment him. We do everything else all his deficiencies and
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  Speaker 2: things that he can't do on the defensive end of
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  Speaker 2: the you know, of the court. You know he's leading
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  Speaker 2: the league and stills, yeah after year, but you got
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  Speaker 2: to gamble and when he gambled. The ken Bay is
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  Speaker 2: there to make sure I'm good. Leo is there the
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  Speaker 2: block shots make sure I'm good. They could do all
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  Speaker 2: of the things that I couldn't do it, and that's
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  Speaker 2: what that's what made Voltron, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: You put all those things together, and that it was
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  Speaker 2: me and a bunch of dogs, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: And it's the same thing with my friendship. Yeah, he's
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  Speaker 2: the guy, you know what I mean, he's like us,
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  Speaker 2: but he's not like us, you know, he is AI.
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  Speaker 2: So we got to act accordingly to that. Yeah, he
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  Speaker 2: chucked us, you know what I mean, but people look
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  Speaker 2: at him another way. So I have a role, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I have to do this. This is my part. This
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  Speaker 2: is what I have to do, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: This is what I have to do, you know. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know if I said that,
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  Speaker 2: but looking out for my mom financially, it is totally
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  Speaker 2: different than going around there and checking on you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean. It was never no you know, like
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  Speaker 2: like I did when it came to to that family,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: Another thing too, and maybe this could be part of
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  Speaker 4: what you're feeling right now. It seemed like the whole
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  Speaker 4: team had a dream.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't. It wasn't.
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  Speaker 4: You're supposed to get on in basketball. You're supposed to
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  Speaker 4: get on in basketball. And everybody was supposed to make
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  Speaker 4: it a rap, so everybody was supposed to be doing
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  Speaker 4: their own thing.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have the I didn't have the Lebron James
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  Speaker 2: cru I didn't have that blueprint, you know what i mean.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, look, we're gonna get in when we fit in,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, I've had one of
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  Speaker 2: my homeboys tell me, like, I'm going to work every day,
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  Speaker 2: working every day, mass supposed to be a superstar by now,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Going to work. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: like I've had incidents like you know, I'm getting ready
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  Speaker 2: to go on the road, and it was a casino,
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  Speaker 2: you know what i mean. And I go to the bank,
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  Speaker 2: I get fifty thousand, they got thirty thousand and large
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  Speaker 2: and twenty thousand and you know, twenties. And I'm getting
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  Speaker 2: on the plane. My man come, I give him the
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  Speaker 2: twenty thousand. He looked at it like it was something
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  Speaker 2: wrong with it because it was all twenties. You know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean. I'm like, yo, did this? You know really,
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  Speaker 2: just that really just happened, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, you know you can, you can. You're
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  Speaker 2: thinking you're doing what's right, but you only you're not
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  Speaker 2: holding people accountable. You being a crutch for him. It's
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  Speaker 2: like putting a band aid on something, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean. You're not stitching it up, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean, not stapling it up, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: And they always feel like that, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: But like the hurtful part is the response of actually
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  Speaker 2: saying no, probably because they never heard it, like when
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  Speaker 2: I implemented that in my vocabulary, like no, what you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean? And and like for somebody I'm
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  Speaker 2: built so different, like somebody just like en be getting
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  Speaker 2: me a barber, Like that's gonna be something that resonates
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  Speaker 2: with me forever. I know, we already got a relationship,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, But still, like I needed
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  Speaker 2: a barber in New York. My man looked out for me,
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  Speaker 2: Like that goes a long way with me. But you
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  Speaker 2: can do a million things for somebody, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean. The first time, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 2: and I was warned about it. You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Mkey told me, he said, Chuck, just you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean. When you when you cut in your grass,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and you getting them snakes
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  Speaker 2: out of there, you ask ask somebody, you know, let
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  Speaker 2: him ask you for something and tell him no, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean. And I think I'm doing a
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  Speaker 2: great job of cutting it. But you still got a
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  Speaker 2: little small you know. The snakes might be gone, but
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  Speaker 2: some worms in there, some small you know.
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  Speaker 4: Right now it's Charles Barkley and a whole bunch of
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  Speaker 4: people saying we was trying to tell him this thirty.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you when you like it's just like
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  Speaker 2: the basketball aspect of everything. I ain't never think that
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  Speaker 2: I will retire there early, you know what I mean. Man,
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  Speaker 2: I ain't never had no back up playing Like growing up,
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  Speaker 2: once my mom told me I could be anything I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to be. I wanted to be a NBA basketball player,
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  Speaker 2: and that was it. It was no it was no
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  Speaker 2: b C. D. It was just that that one dream,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I didn't have no no blueprint.
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  Speaker 2: I ain't even had nobody in my family that went
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  Speaker 2: to college, you know what I mean, Nobody ever been married.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Everything was new to me.
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  Speaker 2: I was. I was doing everything on the fly, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean, So you know my mistakes was
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: coming at a rapid pace, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: And you know you think you know. Coach Thompson used
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  Speaker 2: to always tell me, you always listen in to everybody else.
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  Speaker 2: You're always listening to somebody that's never been to you know,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: from A to Z telling you how to get there,
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And that's what I was.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I had everybody that wasn't me and never had the
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: experience telling me how to do it.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Now you talk about your BC plan, right, you see
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: what Michael Vick's doing with Norfolk State. Absolutely have you
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: ever thought about coaching?
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: No?
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Why not?
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Because they would listen to you, right, especially if you
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: go They were definitely listening.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: I've been, I've been one of the players, you know
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: what I mean. Yeah, coach make millions of dollars, but
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: you got these guys making That's why I take my
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: hat off to anybody that coached the NBA, you know
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: what I mean, Like you have a unique talent, you
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. To have a bunch of guys
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: with a bunch of egos. Everybody come from being a
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: man and then you put them on the team and
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: everybody got the same goal. And I just don't feel like,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: you know, I could coach you guys, A bunch of
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: guys that make more money than me. Listen to me
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: for what that's why? Is it god given talent? Any
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: NBA coach that make it that far blessed?
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Not even NBA coaches.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: You talk about in the book how you filed out
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: and you had to be on the sideline and you
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: just was watching it from your coach's perspective.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I think that was in high school, baby, and you
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: was like, damn, this is what you see.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the title of the book.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: Man, do you think you were misunderstood that the title
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: of the book or did people outside of your circle
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: just not take the time to understand you.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: You're smart, dude, sometimes a lot. This is one of
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: my favorite shows. So I you know, I see the
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: good days a bad day. I watched Dame come up here.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: It's for real, it gets real. I think this. I
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: think they can answer it better. My perspective is, you
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: know they were learning on the fly to It's like
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: you know, with my documentary that's coming out, it was
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: like three hours long. I think I cried like two
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: and a half hours of I had to keep walking
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: out of the theater because you think, you know, when
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: it comes to people that love you, you think you
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: know how they feel about you know, turbulent times, you
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, and you think you know how
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: they feel. You think your girl know, you think you
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: think you know how your girl feel. You think you
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: know how your mom feel, your uncles, your aunts, your homeboys,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: your homegirls. But then when they actually tell you from
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: their point of view, how they felt, you know, and
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: how they looked at things, and how I didn't see
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: how I was fucking up, you know what I mean,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: how they had to try to address me with certain
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: things like you know, you driving the car, we we
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: riding shotgun, you know what I mean. Like and it's
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: hard to tell somebody, you know that's trying to live
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: their life, you know what they should do and what
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: they shouldn't do, you know what I mean. Like I'm
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: twenty one years old, you know what I mean. When
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I got into the league, and at that age, like
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, you couldn't you couldn't tell
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: me nothing. You know what I'm saying, Like I'm here,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like the dress code, I'm like,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I dressed like the dudes, the drug dealers from my neighborhood.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Like you know, I'm dressing like this because you know
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: this is what the old here is from my nigh
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: but this is how they dressed, you know what I mean.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I just couldn't afford it, you know what I mean?
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: My corn rolls. I got corn rolls because I was
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: tired of barber's messing my hairs. I was like, damn,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: if I just grow my hair, you know, I ain't
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: got to deal with that. You know. Tattoos just got addictive.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I got one. I couldn't afford him. I would have
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: been got a lot of them. And you know I was,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I was playing everything by ear. Like I said, I
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: didn't have My daddy was a hustler, you know what
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I mean. He was in the streets, my mom in
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: the streets, Like I didn't have no you know, if
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I sit you down and give you structure, how you
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: wasn't no coach Thompson, then you know what I mean.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Wasn't those people they weren't in my life. Yet so
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: all of all of that was where he was, he was,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: but it was it was he was there. You know
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: when I got to the NBA, me and his phone
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: calls was you know, we never talked about basketball. All right, Yeah,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I'm just checking on your swama. It's good out of kids,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And that was it. He
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: was allowing me and thinking he was preparing me at
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Georgetown for what was they inevitable me going to the league.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: You can't prepare for that, brow.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: How was that pressure though? Because the nicest player, right,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: But you changed culture. But when you changed the culture,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: the NBA pushed back against it, but you never broke.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: You never folded, even though they could have said, they
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: could have banned AI said now we don't want you
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: in our league.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: But you never folded.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: You never back down and you kept it that way,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: which hurt you at times.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Why was that they profited off of too, you know
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: what I mean? Like I would be on One of
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: the things that hurt me is I was on a magazine.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: They wanted me on a magazine because of my talent
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: and who I was, but they air brushed my tattoos
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: off or you want me but you you know, you
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: want some of me. I took the ass with it
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: for it. But the dress code thing, like I actually
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: was just you know what I mean, I was twenty one.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Where am I going after the game? Going to the club,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like before that, they were
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: used to dudes wearing soups, and you know what I mean,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I was like, damn, Like I've never worn a soup
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: growing up. I'm going to church or to a funeral.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: The only time I put in them in the courtroom.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Definitely in the courtroom. So I never wore a soup
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: to the to the gym, to play, to the to
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: the park, sweatsuit, you know what I mean, or whatever.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So I ain't think I
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: ain't think nothing of it, you know what I mean.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: And then you know I got some money. So the
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: jewelry and I always had a fetish, me and my
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: mom since I was a little kid, you know what
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I mean. It's always been like that. So you know,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I remember being and and uh in college and my
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: teammates like, yo, when you get to the lead man,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get the jewelry, like park, you know what
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I mean. You're gonna have the jewelry like puff, you
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Yeah, you know, and the first thing,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: like when the first thing I did was come up
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: here and went to Tito. You know what I'm saying,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Like I didn't think nothing. I was living, you know
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: what I mean. And David Stern and rested the meay
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: was like nah, because it was all right when I
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: was doing it, But then everybody else said, okay, like
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: he can do that, we can do this. So then everybody,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: you know, you see Kobe coming in with the diamond
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: chains on and the baggy clothes, and you know, everybody
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: started doing it. Then the league was like, hold on,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: we gotta do something about that. So it wasn't it
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: wasn't anything malicious like and that and that. That whole
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: situation showed me a lot and it proved a lot
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: to me at a young age about stereotyping people. Because
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: you know, when you seen John Gotti, John Gotty kept
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: on the two thousand dollars suit, but what was he
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: He get busy, you know what I mean. So it
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: ain't about what you got on. You watched reservoir dogs,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: what they have on when they when they robbed that
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it ain't about you know,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: what you got on on the outside, who you are.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: And they said that bother you the most when they
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: labeled you a thug.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, I'll be cool with
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I'll be cool with you know, a street dude. Cool
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: with that, because that's what I am. I mean, that's
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: where I come from. That's all I've ever been around
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: my life. That's what I grew up around, you know
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: what I mean. But a thug like h nah, that's
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: a that's a stretch.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I was wondering would you change things?
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: And the reason I asked that because even in the book,
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: you understood you had to wear a suit the court,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: but you didn't want to do it for press conferences.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: In the NBA, I was bad advice like I was.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I was, you know, I was told to take a uh,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: go to trial and go off whatever the judge say,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: opposed to having a jury. That was bad, you know
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: what I mean. Some of that I was getting advice
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: from people that never had been through it, you know
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: what I mean. I was told that if I was suit,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: then they'd be lenient. I was. I was extremely wrong.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: So you wish you to just water.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not I remember I remember that same suit. I
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: was a in a sale. It was one hundred degrees
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: with no fans in there, and the older sale. I
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: was in a four man cell with fifteen people, you
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, and that suit. When they came
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: got me, I was in the corner with my boxes on,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, soaking wet, and the suit
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: was balled up in the corner. When they came and
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: got me out of there, I had on my boxes,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I don't know what.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Do you regret anything?
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Nah?
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Because I wouldn't be who I am now, you know
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: what I mean. Anybody, if I died and came back,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I would, man, I'd rather be me all over again.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: But if I change everything. If I knew it was coming,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: anybody going, if you're going down of one way street,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get on the right side of the road.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: You see the tract, the trailer coming, you know it's coming,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. That prepared me to be
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: the man that I am today. I had to take
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: this ass whooping with the dress code. So now look
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: at everybody, everybody give me my flowers. For that, you
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, for you got them all these personalities.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Why would everybody dress the same? You got different basketball games?
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Why everybody look the same? You got different games? And
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: people feel good about this? So when you I love
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: it thinking about you know when I when when it's
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: time to go somewhere, trying to go to the club
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: or whatever. I ain't battling with the dudes at the club,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I can't wait to meet
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: everybody downstairs and see what everybody got on. You know
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: what I mean. Like I want to be you know,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: I want to be smoother than my man, you know
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: what I mean, Like that make you feel good, you
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: look good, you play good even on the court. I
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: wanted to look like a superhero like Michael Jordan used
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: to look. You know what I mean, Like I wouldn't.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't change I wouldn't change anything,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: man in my life, all of these experience, even with
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: the book. Man, it's like I love like my girl
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: always talk to me about why do you let like
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: what I started talking about in the beginning, why do
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: you let that type of shit bother you?
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: And I like practice press.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: No, just just what my friends, how people you know
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: what I mean, It's like why and I don't know,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like I love the people
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: that I love, and it hurt when they show you
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: who they really are because I'm thinking you somebody else,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And she like, you know,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: why do you stress out over stuff like that? And
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: you different you have a talent and you you're blessed
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: to be able to brush that stuff off. It's hard
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: for me now. My talent obviously is you know, legendary
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: with who. But I think another blessed blessing that I
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: have is to be an open book, to be someone.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed by practice Rent, I'm embarrassed about uh, not
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: really embarrassed. But it wasn't smart for me to, you know,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: because I remember, you know, people telling me Ai, you
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: cannot take care of everybody, and I used to let
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: it go on one air and write out the other like, yo,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'm gonna be the exception
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: to the rule. I'm gonna take care of the people
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: that I love like that's just me, you know what
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: And I think that's why I hurt you so bad,
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: because your heart, isn't it You love these people? You know, yeah,
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: yeah you're superman, but you still have a heart, you
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: know what I mean.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: And you like, but this is but this is my
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: this is my gift, Like this is my gift to
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: this book, this, this documentary. My experience is the turbulent,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: the ups and downs. Like, uh, if one kid or
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: one adult whatever read this book and they can take
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: something from it. I have people come to me all
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: the time be like, yo, man, you inspired my life. Man,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I would have died if it was for you. I
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: would have went to jail for the rest of my life.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like you changed my life.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: You know, you inspire me. You know your story and
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: this that and the third like and that that motivate me.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like to give more, Like
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: to even when you embarrass you uncomfortable, you know, talk
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: about it. Somebody might not have to go through it.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Somebody might. You might save somebody's life, you know what
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, Like talk about it. You know what I mean,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: you might not be You know, man, you was on
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: top of the world. You had all the money, you
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, all you had to do. It's
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: easy for a motherfucker to tell Chuck what to do
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: with his easy for somebody to say what I would
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: have did? Man, if I was him, I would have
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: did You ain't me, motherfucker. You know what I mean.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: You don't know how. I'm sorry you not me. You
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. I make mistakes. I'm human, just
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: like you.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: That's why we love you, and I love how I
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: love how.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: The whole book Misunderstood is literally an explanation as to
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: why the whole infamous practice press conference even happened because
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: you was dealing with so much at the time, so
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: it wasn't even about you know, those people in the room.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: It's everything else. I was going on outside.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Man, best friend just just got killed, you know what
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: I mean. I'm like, I'm coming in there, But Charla, Man,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I'm coming in there like like I'm I'm on cloud nine.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, I get you know, my kids dealing
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: with this, like they going to school every day and
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: their class may tell your daddy, don't leave, Tell you dad,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: they don't leave. You know, my wife going you know,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: she out in the city. People tell your husband, please
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: don't leave. We love them. So they going through it.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, my kids don't really understand daddy,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: don't don't get traded, don't leave like I don't have
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: no control over it. So when they called me in there,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: it was like, yo, you ain't going nowhere. So I'm like, shit,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: can we call a press conference? You know what I mean? Yeah,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I got all everybody in there. I get to tell
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: the world I ain't going nowhere. This dude just keep
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: on asking me about practice, practice, practice, you know what
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: I mean. I'm like, practice, Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this is not what we're here for. This
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: is we I mean, let's rejoice, let's be happy, you
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. But it's you you, if you
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: know what I know. You got beat writers that write
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: every day. And then you know, I was telling Steven
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: A on this show yesterday, like they weren't exclusive. You
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: turn them down for exclusive the first chance they get,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: kick your back off, you know what I mean. And
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: it was him. I'm sitting there looking at him, you
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, and if I was, if
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I was prepared, which I wasn't, if I was paying,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, man, I was the MVP last season,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: the best player in the whole world. You know what
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, coming from where I come from, and if
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I didn't practice, how would I be able to accomplish
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: something like that. I must be really good, you know
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: what I mean. But I wasn't prepared for it like
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: that because I was so emotional and angry that him.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: You know, this is about being happy, man.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: That's what the misunderstood is about.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: One thing I would I would say about AI is
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: if you ever see him out, He's gonna talk to you.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: He's gonna hug you like he's It's funny when people
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: say you're from the street, or when he labeled you
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: a thugs. I'm like, when you.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: See him out, he's the total opposite.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: He gonna hug you, he gonna ask you how your
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: family is right when you used to have a look
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: at it. He's gonna kiss you on your forehead, like brother,
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: I love you like no, for real, I love you,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: and he and he means it, and he means well
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: for all his people. And that's the side I don't
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: think people see I love. I was saying something the
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: other day. I was like, I was walking down the
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: street with Virginia and Charlomann is like you was walking.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: I was like, I was walking down the street and hey,
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: I pulled up and what's up? Hop out the car house?
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Your family gave me a hug, aful. Yeah, what you're
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: doing tonight?
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: You you got, you got some of the city. I'm
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: gonna come then text me later on Yo, I'm sleeping.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: I ain't gonna bring it. I'm like, yeah, but that's
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: him with everybody, And I'm like, that's the side that
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: people heard.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: The people, the people's I look at it like I
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: look at it like I watch I watch people and
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: how they get down, and I'm like, damn, I would
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: never you know what I mean. But t's on. You know,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: me being me is you know, the best thing in
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: the world of me. Yes, I wanted to be like Mike.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Growing up. I wanted to be like Mike. Yes, I
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: didn't want to be him. You know what I mean, Like,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: I love being me. Everybody else is taking up anyway,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, I love, I love
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: who I am. I never disrespect my God by wanting
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: to be something else. I never disrespect him. You know
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: what I mean by wanting to be somebody else? I love.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I didn't win a championship. But I'm the people's champ.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I love you know, people coming to me. Ai what
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: you're doing here? I'm in Walmartol, I'm in Target on
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: the grocery store. You know what I mean. What you're
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: doing here? Man? Sho me like you security man? That
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: part of my life is I just man, I'm not
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not a thug. I'm not a gangster. You know,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: hurt me for what? You know? What I mean? What
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: am I scared to just? You know what I mean? Like?
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: What am I?
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: I always say, you're the only player who didn't win
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: a ring who feel like a champion.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Because to us like that chap I got an in.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: It's crazy that you say that because I'm blessed. Look
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: at all of the look at all of the other
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: things that He's done for me. When I wake up
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: every morning, when I say my prayer, because I don't
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: do it at night, I do it in the morning.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: I fall asleep and forget watching Saving and Son. You
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, all night and I'm gone. But
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: when I when I pray, I pray for my family,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I pray for my friends. You know what I mean.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Keep us healthy, keep us safe. If you know be sick, curious.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: You know. I man never ask him for no money,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I never ask him for no opportunity. I never just
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: I'll handle the rest. Just keep us safe, keep us healthy,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: and I'll go out. I'll come out. I'll go out
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: there and open the door and say, what's up world,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: what you got to got to off? What's what's going
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: on today? And then navigate through it and tackle it?
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Like I'm blessed, you know
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: what I mean. So a championship, you know what I mean.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I'm top seventy five all time. Not many players played
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: this game, man, millions and millions and millions. I would
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: said that I was told that I wasn't even I
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: was too small. I couldn't make it. You can't make
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: it in this type of game. And you know, and
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: I'm a Hall of famer, you know what I mean,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: All start scoring champion, you know what I mean? Like,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: I'm just not a champion, you know what I mean,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I'm not. We came up short to a juggernaut Kobe
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Bryant and Shaquille O'Neill in their prime. You understand, Like
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I'm cool with that, you know what I mean? Now
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: I get an opportunity. I'm still here. I get the
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: root for That's why I want certain people that haven't
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: won a championship to win one. I want to I
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: want them to feel, you know how, I never got
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: the opportunity to feel. So when people talk about who
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: you want to win this year, I want to see
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: the guys win that haven't done it before. Gotcha, you
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? You would do.
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: Things that nobody evident. If you did, you would go
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: so viral these days. You had your mother bring your
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: head at the game.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: I was not my mom, the it was her sister.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I think it was Mamy.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: Okay, all right, So that was just what it wasn't
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: no time before I was rushing.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Listen. First of all, you already know Jess, and I
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: know you might have. You might not have joked about it,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: but you you probably joked about it to your home
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: girls or your homeboys or whatever. Because I ain't never
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: had my head always been long up here. I ain't
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: never had no hangtime. I ain't never I mean never,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And you know if you
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: don't put rubber bands in my joint, then they would
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: come out. So we were actually rushing. I used to.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I used to get to the game so late, you know,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: because I used to leave so late. With the traffic
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: going to the game, I used to always get called
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: into it. And then I used to always had to
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: ride on thee so playing it was like first quarter
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: and I felt, you know, it was coming out. My
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: aunt was stands all like yo, she came and.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Just fixed it up.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: I mean it was simple as that.
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: That photo is like so loved and cherished now, but
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: when it happened at the time, did you feel like
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: people like loved and cherish the moment? And how did
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: you handle how people would come for your family because
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: you are such a family person.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Damn, that's a good question. I don't want to say
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't care, But it was like what
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: you're gonna do, Like there's nothing you can you can't
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna change I couldn't change what people think about.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: But this book not gonna change what people think. This documentary.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Motherfucker don't like you. They don't like you, they hate you.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: They hate you. They don't find some reason, you know,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: they don't find some reason to to not like you.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: That's what you deal with. And it's like I had
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: to learn that early, like you know what I mean,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Like like for real, like everybody not gonna love you,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You just concentrate on the
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: ones that do. You just appreciate the ones that that
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: that like you know what I mean. I mean, they
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: gonna say crazy shit, you know what I mean. I
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: heard somebody say Michael Jackson can't sing. Like I mean,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: I've heard it. So when when you ranking people and
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: you know what i mean, ranking where AI stand in
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: this and and and you know what i mean, like
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: you're paying attention with the comments and what people say,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: and man, listen, you're gonna be hurt for a while.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Like the comments even on Instagram, Like I posted a
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: picture of my daughter up there, and dude, I'm looking
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: at the comments for whatever reason, you know what i mean,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Like I need my ego stroke anymore, you know what
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I mean. Look a man, fuck that little ugly bitch,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'm like, damn, Like I'm like, okay,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: I don't do the comments no more, you know, francn
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. It's like it's like people going,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: you know, that's what that's what they do. Because a
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: lot of a lot of times. People we talked about
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: that earlier, they wake up and they mad at their
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: own life. And you know, that's just that's the world
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: we the whorld we we live in. That's the reason
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: I can't be a commentary. Yeah. Yeah, Like I'm not
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: getting up there talking bad about nobody. Man. I just
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: I just that's just not something that because if just
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: think about it, if you're an NBA basketball player and
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: you never get in the game and everybody think you're bumm,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: put them in a game. How you get there first
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: of all, right, and then put them on the court,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean with anybody else? Put them
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: in the y m c A, put them on the court,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: on the college court, you know what I mean, high
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: school whatever, it looked like Michael Jordan out there, you
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. And I just respect everybody that
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: made it because I know what I actually went through,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I went through a lot
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: to get there, Like I ended up being the first
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: pick in the draft, and a couple of years ago
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: I was getting released from from jail, you know what
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. So I don't know, I just I just
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: I just respect people that that that want to do
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: something and don't let nobody stop them trying to do it.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Also that I've seen an interview you gave up drinking
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: six months ago that point where you said it was it.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Was I'll be lying if I would say it just
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: just stopped the brother. You know what I mean? It was.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: It was situations. You know what I mean. I you know,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: where is my ship at? You know what I mean,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Like I know I put it here. You know what
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: I mean. It's the same thing having certain guys around you.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Everybody when when when they your people, your people know
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: when you're drunk, you know, just chill man, Just yeah,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: somewo more glasses. Damn man, hey yo, Man, fucked up
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: right now? Man, God, damn, I need you. You know
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Man, My this is going on, that
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: going on. Man, I need you. I waited till you
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: get this in because let me just talk about when
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: I get nice, man will give you the shirt UPO.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I went to sleep lass nine twenty five thousand on me.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: You know, man, I got twelve hundred what my sniggers
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I want? My man, you gave such and such your
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: your your your little sniggers. You gave your sister, your
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: your uh, your uh, your your first cope you you
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, like and I mean that's just
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: that's just small ship compared to the real you know
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: what I mean, not feeling well. You know what I mean.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, I did all this and I was having
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: fun last night to wake up feeling like this, you
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. Then my responsibilities you you know
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: what I mean. You're missing flights and you know what
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, just a it's a pluthor of
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: of things. Man, you just drinking, you know what I'm saying,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Like I saw to evaluate him, like what good does
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: it do for me? You understand? Like you, I mean,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: you can you can have fun with your own boys,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: your homegirls, you know what I mean, without that, And
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I found out that that's something I you know, got
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: to get used to as well, you know what I mean,
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: because I don't like being around a bunch of drunk
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: people and I ain't like we can't have a conversation.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Like I'm talking, I'm trying to get you to understand something,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: but I'm talking to somebody drunk. You know what I mean.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: You ain't trying to hear nothing I'm talking about. We
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: ain't we all conversations not gonna matter until some other time,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: And so Bron call you right now and he said, hey, man,
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: hennersy got this bag.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: God damn by no bag. I've been there and I
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: don't had it, and I don't experienced having millions and
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: losing like and I'm not talking about I've always been
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: a millionaire, you know what I mean. I'ma make millions regardless.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: But for me, once I done hit the pinnacle, you know,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: ten million a year is not enough for me, you
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like it is not enough. Like
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: but at the same time, if I want the lottery,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: if I hit one of them joints that went up
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: to a billion or something like that, the last thing
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I would want is for anybody to know, you know
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, man, that's that's the last thing.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Like man, you know what I mean. But like I wouldn't.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't, I wouldn't sell. And I talked to God
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: about it. I asked them to help me be strong.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I ain't go to no AA or nothing like that.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Like I I was like, Okay, I'm not I'm not
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: doing it. And that's what it wasn't. The crazy thing
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: about it is I've been with her for fifteen, for
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: thirty five years and since I was fifteen, And it's
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: crazy part about it is she said when I told
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: her I was stopping that after that, she prayed on it.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: And she said that was the only time that she
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: ever prayed on it. Like I said it plenty times
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: in the past, and she said that was the only
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: time that she prayed on it. And I was authentic
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: with it.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: Was there ever a time in your life where you
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: truly felt like a kid, because because when I read
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: your book, it feels like you never got the opportunity there.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, hell yeah, I remember, Like I like you,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: people talk all the time about, man, I was it?
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: How tough was it? You know? Growing up poor? You
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like it was the best, right,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like you know what I mean,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: because everybody around me was it won't like everybody you know,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: it was only until I got to high school and
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I'm wearing like I had two what three pair of
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: pants and my one one was my sister's, you know
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: what I mean? You know it was it was bad
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: and I'm looking at it's called Farmitton. You know where
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: I'm from. You know what I mean. You see the
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: kids on Farmiting, they come in their dressed like they
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: got the polo and the guests on, and you know
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: what I mean, I'm like, damn bowls and the dudes.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: It was. That was competition for real, you know what
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: I mean. They come up with the act legends and
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like it was, it was.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: It was tough. But you know, before then, it was like, man,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like all I wanted, all
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: I wanted growing up was a pair of Jordan's. That's it.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: I ain't give a damn I go to school. I
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: have a god damn pampa on as long as I
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: got you know what I'm saying, Like it was, it was,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: it was, It was nothing to me. I was a kid, man,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, I was a guy. I didn't I had
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: the childhood, man, I don't. I don't have no excuses
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: on anything that happened in my life. I don't have
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: no one to blame. I don't have I don't, man,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: I don't. When when things don't go right, you know
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: what I mean, when when you ask somebody to do
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: something for you, you know what I mean. They don't
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: do it? How mad can you get with them? But
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing it? Do it yourself, you know what
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: I mean? Or don't don't don't put that on them,
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like I just I just
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I concentrate so much, like we just you just heard
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: me going about the seven and something like, and my
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: my girls say like, how do you watch this every day?
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, How do you watch good
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: times every day? Like I love, I love my gangster ship,
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: like I love you know all of that, you know
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: what I mean. But I just like like the and
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: I and I. It ain't that bad. You ain't you know,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: obviously dead, that's one thing. But you ain't in jail man.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: You ain't blind, you ain't deaf, you know what I mean.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: You got all your limbs. Like what you complaining about?
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: You know, that's the one thing I try to control
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: in my life. Just complaining about shit all the time.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like I mean it and
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: it don't it don't do no good. I mean for
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: you to do it.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: There's not one excuse in that book. All of this
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: is accountability throughout the.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Whole I ain't making none. Man. And then because that's
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: the easy way for somebody to look up to Alannrbinson
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: have to have a cop out, you know what I mean,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: easy way, you know what I mean, complaining about something,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: man do it. And I hate when people think that
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: like that it's arrogant. And that's how I've always been confident.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: I ain't. I mean, I've never been arrogant. I've never
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: been cocky, just confident, you know what I mean. And
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: the one thing about like just just people just it
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: bothered me that you don't think that this is your world.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: This is your world. It don't mean you're not being arrogant,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: You're not being selfish thinking, you know what I mean,
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Like you're the only one that matter in the world,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But it's yours. This is
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: your life. Everything happens, you know, you the one you
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: ain't going nowhere. You might see everybody go before you,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's gonna hurt when people
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: go or whatever. But this is this is the one
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: shot that you got, you know what I mean, to
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: be happy to make these decisions and live with them,
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You concentrate on making mistakes
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: and hopefully you don't make the same mistake twice and
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: and live your live your life. Man, you got one
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: shot at this. Man. Ain't nothing wrong with being you, Man,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Ain't nothing wrong with it. Man, you can't be everybody else.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: You can't, you know what I mean. You can't worry
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: about worry about what you can control. Man, you know
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: what I mean? Like I want some money. I want
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: to be the richest man in the world. I want
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: all the money. You know what I mean?
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, you know how you missed that on some money?
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Not registering AI.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: How much time with I got? I got the real guy,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: but register the sleeve you know what I mean? Like
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: like like if I get that copywriting like the sleeve, man,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: everybody with man, people playing golf, wearing to sleep. I
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: seen r Kelly had sleeve on, said what Kelly fell
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: off the stage? You know what I mean? The man
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: got a sleeve on in the video, yo, Man, Like
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: like the Steve is it's part of people, Like it's this,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: it's a swag. I'm wearing it. Like the whole reason
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: I'm wearing it because I'm hurt, you know what I mean.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Like it's a it's a it's a it's a lot
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: of opportunities that that were there that I passed up on.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: But like, I don't look at it like that. I
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: think now what like now where you're going? At? Now
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: what you're going?
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: Do?
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: You know what i mean? Like every time God opened
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: my eyes, I'm just you know, I'm just trying to
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: think positive. But life be life. Like you know, you
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: get a phone call, you know, hey, man, like like, Yo,
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: I need you to do this. Bro. You're asking me
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: for this, you know what I mean? Thousands of dollars.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Christmas is a couple of days away. Like why you
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: ain't ask me this? You know what I mean? Man,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: I'm asking you? You know, can you do that? All right?
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it for you? You know what I mean.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: I ain't say there you know. And all the people
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: that I'm talking about, they certain people are not gonna
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: get upset because they know I'm not talking about it,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But you know, like like dude,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: you know I say, Yo, I'm gonna do it. I
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: take care of that, you know what I mean. You're
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: my man. I take care of that, you know what
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: I mean. I said, But I'm gonna do it with
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: my card. Put it on my car, so send me
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: the information. Don't like that, I'm gonna do it on
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: my car. Oh no, no, no, I need cash, man,
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: I need cash. What was doing me? It's gonna get
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: taken care of Vegas.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Can't be choosy.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: It didn't take care.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Difference than it's a lie.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Then I got called a clown and no, yeah, crazy,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: like I'm talking about I've been. I've been. This dude
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: was my homeboy since I was like thirty. I mean
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: like it's been thirty thirty eight years man, and been homeboys.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: You went above and beyond my brother, because anybody.
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: Ever tried to like come to you and say, look,
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: look my bad. I was tripping like back then. I
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: kept acting and acting and accent and you were doing
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: and I just I took advantage for you, as anybody
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: ever come to you to take accountability.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: One person.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Are incredible because it just happened. It just happened. And
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: my man was telling me that the same thing you
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: just said. He told my man that my man told
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: me and it was like went on death is And
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: I was like, man, yes, I heard him say that before,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: and he keep doing it. You know what I mean,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: like you keep doing it, you know what I mean?
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Like the hardest the hardest part, Like the hardest part
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: is when it's a homeboy or homegirl and you want
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: to cut them off because of how they treat you,
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: not because of how you treat them. You know, they
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: think you're treating bad and treating them bad because you
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: implemented that word no in your vocabulary. But the hardest
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: thing is when it's somebody that you love. The hardest
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: thing is questioning yourself, like, damn, am I wrong for this?
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Am I going too far? You know what I mean?
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Like you always try to look at yourself and feel
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: like if you could have did something wrong, I mean,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: if you I'm sorry, if you could have did something right,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Wrong boundaries?
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: My brother, I got a question for you. You talked
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: about your wife to Wanda praying over. You decided not
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: to drink anymore as a husband.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: What have you discovered that boyfriend?
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Boyfriend?
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, we got divorce, so you married the boys
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: and y'all got right back together like six months later
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: or something.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, I want to do I want this point
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: to be made because you think I'm who I am
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: and I was out of control. I was out of control.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: And this threat was there for years, for years and
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: years and years and years and years, and it's like
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: the boy cried wolf, like whatever, I heard that before,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And then it was like
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: she got to the point where like, yo, I gotta
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: show this motherfucker. I gotta do something to show him
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: I'm serious. And that's what happened. You in that courtroom
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: and you're looking over there and you see number one
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: right there, and you're looking down at that paper and
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: them tears hitting that that page and they don't say,
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: you know, I've been Georgetown versus Georgetown and it's been
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: a scrimmage or six's versus sixes, and you looking at
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: the stat sheet whatever, I'm looking at Iverson versus Iverson, you.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Know what I mean?
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: And like, yo, shit is real, you know what I mean?
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Like, and did you as suit?
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: Look, I really was defiant then, you know what I mean,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Like you got me in here, you know what I mean?
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: And I had a judge or judge was vicious, like
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: I couldn't do nothing right.
• 54:34
  Speaker 6: Even in that moment you were defined. Yeah, no, no,
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: it is your interview. I was just gonna say, even
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: in that moment, you were defined and I guess upset
• 54:41
  Speaker 6: even though you knew, because you said you knew you
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: were out of control. But so like, in that moment,
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: why are you defining upset if she's just doing what
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: she thinks is going to help, I guess, to get
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: you to a better spot for her.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: I was selfishly thinking about my Demid because I know
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: in my heart and in my mind that I can't
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: live without. You know what I'm saying, Like I know it,
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: like I know it. I took, I took her love
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: for me for granted, you know what I mean, Like
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: as far as she loving me so much that I
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: felt like you know that she would never she would
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: never go nowhere like this is all I've known. This
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: is the only love that I've ever known, as far
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: as like, I've never loved someone like this in my life,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Then, A lot of times,
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: you know, all women would say, or even guys, you know,
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: anybody that's you know, logical about anything, how you love
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: her so much and you do the things? And I
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: don't have an answer.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: We never do though, as men, we never do. We
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: don't know why we do the dumb shit we do.
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: So how has not drinking and you know it seems
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: like you're you know, your focus is different in this
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: time of your life. How has that made you as
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: we discover each other in a relationship.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm I'm I'm uh, I'm Claire Huxtable. I'm
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: in Cliff. I'm Cliff Huxfortable now like I'm I'm I'm
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: I kind of get a feeling like I'm the guy
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: like I felt always felt like, you know, I was
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: the guy she always wanted, you know what I mean,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: wanted to be, you know, wanted me to be. But
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: I really feel like that guy now, Like I feel
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: like it's not the Huxtables around there obviously, but like
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: she love you know this me, you know, because you
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: always getting this me. It's hard to take advantage of
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: somebody that can see ship clear as hell, you know
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: what I mean, opposed to being nonchalant about everything, you
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like it's you know, my homeboys
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: says a different chuck. Now, you know what I mean.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: I see, I see what's going on, you know what
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: I mean. All the stuff that I used to, you know,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: not pay attention to, I'm paying attention to it now,
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And I just think, you know,
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: by me making this decision, it's so much better for
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: not just myself, everybody around me. I can help better.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: My advice is better, you know what I mean. Like
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: I'm a better friend now, I'm a better family member.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: You know this shit is clear? You know what I'm saying.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Like I promise you I'm the smartest man in the
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: world because I know him not you know what I mean,
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: I know him not like, but I know how if
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: it's a certain feel of you know how we need
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: some help, help and you know what I mean, opposed
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: to just just doing it all way and thinking we know, no, man,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: we gotta go to we gotta go to this person,
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: We gotta go to that person. We gotta do it
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: this way, we gotta do it that way, you know
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: what I mean. Put your ego aside. Man, We're trying
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: to get it done. We need to get it done.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: But we're gonna get it done right. And it's just
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: an everlution of me. It took long, you know what
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, But I just think about it, like, Yo,
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: you embarrassed, you know first, it was embarrassing that you know,
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: talking about that seen the ship went viral yesterday and
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: you embarrassed, you know, with the whole thing. But it's like, damn, bro,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: that's another thing that you know, by you being you
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: and being comfortable in your own skin, it's gonna help
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: somebody else.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Somebody might make that decision, right, somebody's trying to be
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: sober right now.
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that whatever time, because I
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: didn't get it from the book where anybody recommended therapy
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: to you, because it was clear you was my girl.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, like you need some help, you know what I mean?
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: You don't remember what was? Are you coming to a
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: get up that ship? You said last month?
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Just starting ship, you know what I mean. And then
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: she used to be like you ran you running around
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: with all these dudes all day long and y'all drinking
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: and have a ball, and you come in here fucking
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: with me. I'm talking about where your piece is at? Man?
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Because you going but women
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: know you leave that house. Man. We tackling the world
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: like you. It's going down. It's hard for me, like
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: I said, to go to the grocery store, to go
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: to Target, Walmart, I gotta be Alan Irverson every day
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: I walk in the house. And one thing about it, everybody,
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: everybody out there, if you think about it, somebody gonna
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: see you and feel like this is the last opportunity
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: that I'm ever gonna get to see him and this
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: is my moment. That's what you know what I mean?
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: When they see oh shit, it's like and then you
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: you somewhere and you're paying for something, and then you
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: finish and you turn around and you see so many people.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: You see cameras and then you see and they do
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: the ship shot like like getting ready to jump rope.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: You see everybody, like everybody everybody time, you know what
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: I mean. And it's like it's like it's like, bro,
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: you want to be you want to like you wanna
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: it's so much you go out when you come in
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: the crib man to be you know what I'm saying,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: Like fall on, you know, on the couch and and
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: and you have made it through the storm, you know
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: what I mean. Because like my fans, like they they
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: got real love man, you know what I mean. But
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: some of them, when you can you can distinguish a fan,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: a truth fan, and just somebody that you know, give
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: a damn about how nice you was on the court,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: because a truth fan, give a fuck about you. You
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like you feed them feeding my daughter?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I'm in the restaurant and
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: stick a piece of paper and paying them sign this
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: right here? AYI you know what I mean. Hold on, baby,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: let me and this and I you know I love women,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean to death. I love all
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: my fans, but women fans are they don't like taking no.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Dude, tell you know all
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: the time. But me, somebody you don't know, tell you know,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: you go crazy in a minute. I'm feeding my daughter
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: right now. Now, Well fuck you there in Ai. Kobe
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: Bryant better than you anyway. Tell me I'm gonna burn
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: these shoes I bought. I brought your shoes. I bought
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: your jersey. I'm like, I ain't say no. I just said,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: let me finish my daughter, you know what I mean.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Like it's it's it's just it's crazy. I remember I
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: was at David Buses with the kids. I'm on the
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: phone talking to my mom and the lady walked up
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: to me and she was like, hey, let me talk
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: to you iself. Hold on, man, I'm talking to my
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: mom on the phone right now. What's your mom more
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: important than your fans? Yeah? I was like yeo. I
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: was like yo, I was looking let me just get
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: away from you, you know what I mean. But that's like,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: you know, all in the nutshell man being a celebrity. Man,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: you say that because people think about the money and
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: the fame and the talent or whatever. Man you say
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: you want this life and whatever. Man, you really man,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: A lot of people, if they were meet, would have
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: been jumped off a building and put a pistol to
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: their head and blew it off.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: By Now, that's the crazy thing. Lord John said that
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: same thing when we had him. He said, you gotta
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: be built, you gotta have tough skin. This is not
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: an easy industry to be in. But your influence was
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: crazy because I'm telling you, Allen evinceins, I was getting
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: them and I was getting bitches and I wasn't even.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: Gay in middle school. I would come get my hand braided.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: And that's good, you told me an on hang time.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: I didn't either, put the bitches ain't no, because I
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: had the absence.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: Your time in Philly, right, I mean influencing impacts and
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 6: everything you did. But Philly embraced you so much and
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 6: the person you are meeting you I get it now,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 6: but you know, Philly don't embrace everybody. What was your
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: time like there just in like what were you doing?
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 6: I guess to lean into that or like I don't know,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 6: like did you feel the okay? They love me here
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: like when you walk out onto the streets and not
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: at first because people, you know, Philly is tough.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: The toughest and they called it his brotherly love. That's
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: about it. My relationship not in the beginning, but I
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: think I have I would I would say Michael Jordan
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: and uh Chicago, Steph and AA State. Who else? You know?
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: I said the Bay Area now probably Shay in Oklahoma City.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: I think I have the best relationship with a fan base.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: I think in sports history, you know what I mean,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: Like that's that's crazy.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: And Kobe Lak you know what I mean.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: They watched me grow up. I was twenty one years
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: old when I got there, Like they watched me, you know,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: go through my ups and downs. But I played every
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: game like it was my last. And if you know Philadelphia,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: that's all they really want like I could. I was
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: telling Steve yesterday, like I could be out there, I
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: can go oh for Winfrey from the field, you know
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: what I mean. But they knew that AI played as
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: hard as he could, you know what I mean. I
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: could look in the mirror after the game every game
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: I played, hurt, sick, whatever, and look at the mirror,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: and I know ever felt bad, you know, I felt good.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: I upset about not playing well, but I knew that
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: I played that game like it was my last. People
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: in Philadelphia love that, and all relationship has been that,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Since I've been retired with
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: fifteen years now, and the relationship is still the same.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: You walk into the building, it's the same feeling. And
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: then the people in Philadelphia are used to me outside
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: of being in that arena, barbershops and everywhere. Applebe's. Well,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: I was a.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: Little younger, so I came a little bit after. You
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 6: weren't Fridays when I was there, But yeah, club Fridays
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 6: was a thing.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: It became the third largest Fridays in the country, you
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like it was really a club,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Lines they started checking out
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: ideas you had to get you had to have reservations
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: and you know what I mean, Like it was it
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: was crazy, you know what I mean. Philly. I love Philadelphia.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, I love it, you know what I mean.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: But it's just just like Virginia. I can't never like
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: live there, you know what I mean. Like when I retired,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: I went to Florida, like trying to get away from everything.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: Then it's just meet her and the kids and no family,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: no friends, like nah, you know what I mean. So
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: I moved in Charlotte. It's close to Virginia, but you know,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: I can never go live there again. But people have
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: worried of me the damn death, you know what I mean, Like,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: but close my mom could drive or our flight, right.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: You got to I do. Got one last question.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: Man, you changed the entire culture of basketball, but to me,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: you change black culture. You also change hip hop culture
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: from your fashion to your attitude to just your authenticity.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: When you see how the NBA in the world embraces individuality, now,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: do you feel celebrated or do you still feel misunderstood?
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: Nah, it's I get the opportunity, Like this is opportunity
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  Speaker 2: for me, you know what I mean, Like all of
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: those years you wanted to you know, you wanted just say, oh, man,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: you got me wrong, you know what I mean, talk
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: about it to your family, your friends. Man, I'm misunderstood. Man,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: they don't they ain't getting it, you know what I mean.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: It ain't like that. And then this platform and then
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: all the other big platforms, you know, just you guys
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: giving me an opportunity to come up here and ask
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: me shit that I want to answer that that I
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: want the world to know, you know what I mean.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: I want them to know it ain't like that. It's
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: like this, you know what I mean. Then you're hearing
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: it from someone else, you know what I mean, someone
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: else telling who Alan Iverson is. Then just to have
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: the opportunity to do it in the excitement about it
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: is the long wait, because now I finally get a
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: chance to Man, you was wrong. You had me fucked
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: up like that. Ain't what it is, you know what
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: I mean? And going through your career you can't explain
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: to everybody every situation it don't, you know what I mean.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: And this book took years, you know what I mean.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: The documentary took years to do, and man, I just
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: I'm just happy that I get an opportunity to to
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: tell my story or write my story and and help
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: and help and help somebody, you know what I mean,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Just like you know Michael Jordan did for me, you
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, like he If it wasn't for
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: no Michael Jordan, they would not be the Allen Iverson
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: and everybody in the world. Know, Like, I literally like
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: he gave me the vision. Man. Like I'm like, I
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: want to be like him, you know what I mean.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: That's who I want to be. Him and Michael Michael Jackson.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: I want all the dudes to love me, you know
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: what I mean. I want all the girls to love me.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I want to put that
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: in one you know what I'm saying. And I want
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: to be you know, uh, not just a basketball player,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: but just big all the way. And I didn't. I
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: didn't get this vision until until I started to take
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: care of what I had to do on the basketball
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: court and then becoming a cultural icon, you know what
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: I mean. Okay, all these rappers, all these people in
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: the world that want to just express themselves the way
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: they want to express themselves. Now they get an opportunity. Man,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: he can do it. Man, ain't nothing wrong with what
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: I'm doing, regardless of high look. Regardless high look. Everybody
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: talk about that that runway walking into the game. I'm
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: watching it, you know what I mean. I don't like
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: everything up there, but I just love their confidence of
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: walking in there, like, yeah, I'm doing it today, you
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? And like just my story. All
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: I want is for people to get out of it. Man,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: It's all right to be you. It's all right, you
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's things that's gonna happen in
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: your life and it's gonna be tough, you know what
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: I mean. But that's when you're gonna lean on number one.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: You're gonna lean on him. You gonna lean on God.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: You don't. They don't ask them, uh any You don't
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: question him at all, you know what I mean. Whatever
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: happened happened. I ain't never my grandma told me when
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: I went to jail, that bowling alley thing. I said, Now,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: why are they doing this to me? If they know
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: I didn't do what they said. I did question, never
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: questioned God, and I've never done it since then, you
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Whatever he do, You know what
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm cool with it. You know what I mean.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: He driving this car and I'm gonna just sitting there,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: ride shotgun wherever he take me. That's where I'm going,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna live with the results. So that's that's
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: the only thing I want. I just think, man, live, man, laugh,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: love man.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: We love you, brother, we love you.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: Out right now, just walk out. I got God.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: Good morning, every day, up waking.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club. We are finished for Young Dum