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Mac & Bone Show - Adam Gold Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. It's been a fun show, man.
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: These winning weeks.
• 0:22
  Speaker 2: Man, they just hit different, right? They just hit different.
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: They don't stress you out. Although, Bone and I, in fairness,
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: last hour were stressed out about Jalen Coker continuing to
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: turn punts.
• 0:31
  Speaker 3: We're afraid he's going to get hurt.
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: But JJ has calmed us down.
• 0:34
  Speaker 3: We had to calm JJ down and say, hey, man,
• 0:35
  Speaker 3: just don't worry about it, man. It's all good.
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  Speaker 2: JJ came with so many facts. I was like, I
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: guess I'm not worried anymore. How can you argue with that, man?
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: It's been pointed out, Bone, by a texter that JJ
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: might know more about special teams than we do.
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: Someone says we got treated like the referees on a
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  Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon by JJ.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that is true. Just completely changed your mind right
• 0:55
  Speaker 3: there on the spot. Set you straight. Oh, man. If
• 0:58
  Speaker 3: you have missed any of it, you missed it. I
• 1:00
  Speaker 3: know what Coker returning kicks to me.
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: You missed our conversation with JJ or any of the
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  Speaker 2: conversation so far on this show. A lot of good
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  Speaker 2: lively Panthers talk and are what the bleep segment as well.
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  Speaker 3: Go back.
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  Speaker 2: Listen to the podcast. He does a great job of
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  Speaker 2: getting them up there on all podcasts. You know, get
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: up there on all platforms, WFNZ.com, Apple, Spotify, and more.
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  Speaker 2: So check them out. Right now, we've got a lot
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: of college football stuff to talk about, including NC State
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  Speaker 2: finding the most NC State way to lose a damn
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  Speaker 2: game ever on that late fumble as Bailey just tried
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  Speaker 2: to run the clock down. in the end zone uh
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  Speaker 2: adam gold joins us from 99.9 to fan and rally
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  Speaker 2: and of course weeknights here on wfnz at seven o'clock
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  Speaker 2: he is adam gold goldie what the heck's happening man
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  Speaker 2: how you doing i'm.
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  Speaker 4: Doing well why didn't why are you making me talk about.
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  Speaker 3: That Because you've got to own that, man, being Mr.
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  Speaker 4: Raleigh.
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  Speaker 3: It's my fault. I'm not blaming you. I'm not blaming you.
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  Speaker 4: Dave wasn't going to take the blame. I know.
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  Speaker 3: It sounded like he lightened that up a little bit yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: He did.
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  Speaker 2: Spreading it around. Like, what did you, I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what there is to say. It's one of
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  Speaker 2: the dumbest things ever. But what is there to say
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  Speaker 2: about it, Goldie?
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  Speaker 4: It was absurd.
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  Speaker 3: It was absurd.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole thing was absurd. I mean, look, stuff happens.
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  Speaker 4: NC State stuff happens. I don't know. I wouldn't have
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  Speaker 4: taken the delay game. I would have just lined up
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  Speaker 4: and punted it, and I would have punted it as
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  Speaker 4: high and as far and as out of bounds as
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  Speaker 4: I could have. I would have had the punter aim
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  Speaker 4: the ball into the stands. I don't even care how
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  Speaker 4: far it goes. You only got to kill seven seconds.
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  Speaker 4: I think you can get pretty close to seven seconds
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  Speaker 4: with a punt. Or you can simply have the punter
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  Speaker 4: run out of the back of the end zone and
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  Speaker 4: then squib kick it. They created the most chaotic. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: the whole play was chaos. Did anybody even bother to
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  Speaker 4: block on that play?
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  Speaker 3: It didn't look like it, did it? No, no, not
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  Speaker 3: at all.
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  Speaker 1: This might be a, look, I preface this, this might
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  Speaker 1: be a dumb question, but how are the NC State
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  Speaker 1: fans holding up.
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  Speaker 3: Right now there in Raleigh?
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  Speaker 4: Well, here's what's interesting to me. I found a fair
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  Speaker 4: amount of people who were caping up for Dave Dorn.
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  Speaker 4: And they were, you know, maybe not his coaching, but no,
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  Speaker 4: he's right to blame C.J.
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  Speaker 3: Bailey.
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  Speaker 4: He makes all this money, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, yep, the players do get paid, but let's
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  Speaker 4: not let's not conflate that with being professionals because they're
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  Speaker 4: not professionals. They're not professionals yet, but they do get paid.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that has given people even more license
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  Speaker 4: to criticize players. And I have no problem criticizing CJ Bailey.
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  Speaker 4: I said it, he deserves to be criticized for it.
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  Speaker 4: He screwed it up, but there was a lot of
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  Speaker 4: shared blame to go around. And that's what on Saturday
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  Speaker 4: evening or afternoon in Nashville, uh, That's what I didn't detect.
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  Speaker 4: I basically heard we're blaming CJ. We're blaming all the
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  Speaker 4: missed tackles. I can't go out on the field and
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  Speaker 4: tackle for these guys. I'm like, yeah, that's kind of
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  Speaker 4: out of Dave's playbook. But in a raw situation like this,
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  Speaker 4: I can't even fathom how that game was lost, even
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  Speaker 4: though Vanderbilt could have won that game on the possession before. So,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we lose sight of the fact that After
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  Speaker 4: the middle of the third quarter, Vanderbilt was probably the
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  Speaker 4: better team.
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  Speaker 2: You already blew most of that 17-point lead and had
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  Speaker 2: Vandy threatening before the Barnhart pick. It's not like there
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  Speaker 2: weren't other things done wrong in that game, no doubt.
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  Speaker 4: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: Adam, I know we've talked a lot about Dabo's job security,
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  Speaker 1: but we'll put him to the side here for this one.
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  Speaker 1: Of the teams and coaches in the Carolinas that blew
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  Speaker 1: the double-digit leads on Saturday, Doran, Beamer, Belichick, Of those three,
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  Speaker 1: who do you consider to be in the most trouble
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  Speaker 1: going forward?
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  Speaker 4: I believe that would be Shane Beamer. I like Shane, too,
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  Speaker 4: but it's kind of unraveled in South Carolina, and I
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  Speaker 4: feel bad because I absolutely adore his dad. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know Shane at all, but I've spent enough time with
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  Speaker 4: Frank Beamer to know what he's about. I've He's just
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  Speaker 4: one of the best humans in coaching. I hope it
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  Speaker 4: works out for Shane, but I think if South Carolina
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  Speaker 4: wants to move on, he'll find another spot.
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  Speaker 1: I read a thread yesterday from South Carolina fans. It
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  Speaker 1: was on 3Thread, and it said, How are you feeling
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  Speaker 1: right now? And every single comment said, Love Shane. Love
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  Speaker 1: what he stands for. No one takes joy in the
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: fact that it's not succeeding. But the term, Mac and Adam,
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  Speaker 1: that came up a lot was exhausting. It's been an
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  Speaker 1: exhausting run of waiting for them to consistently turn the corner,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just not happening.
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  Speaker 3: He does seem like a great dude, though. He really does, man.
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  Speaker 4: He definitely does. You know, here's what we shouldn't forget,
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  Speaker 4: that it is the University of South Carolina. I'm not
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  Speaker 4: trying to throw shade on that school and that football program.
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  Speaker 4: But other than a hot second with Lou Holtz and
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  Speaker 4: the Steve Spurrier era, South Carolina is kind of middling, right?
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  Speaker 4: They're kind of, I don't know, Fulham?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's fair. I think that's definitely fair.
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  Speaker 3: No doubt about it. Goldie, the clip.
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  Speaker 4: You always get the Premier League references.
• 6:58
  Speaker 3: Bone's getting there, too. No, he's not. Oh, you don't
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  Speaker 3: think so? No, no.
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  Speaker 1: He's very down on Chelsea, Bone. I've watched every Chelsea game,
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  Speaker 1: but I'll tell you what, though. There's a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Going on in those games. Not a lot of defense
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  Speaker 3: with Chelsea.
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  Speaker 4: Not at all. Not a second. Hey, do you know
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  Speaker 4: how far Fulham is from Chelsea, Bone?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I got to be honest, Mac had to correct me.
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  Speaker 1: I thought they were called Full Ham until about a
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  Speaker 1: week ago.
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  Speaker 3: I said, hey, Mac, they got this Full Ham team.
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  Speaker 3: It's got to be within five miles or so, right?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like eight, seven or eight miles. I
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  Speaker 4: think it's the Thames.
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  Speaker 3: Bone knows what all the London derbies are for Chelsea.
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  Speaker 3: Of course he knows that.
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  Speaker 4: What a setting.
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: All right, we're talking to Adam Gold right here on
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  Speaker 2: the Mac and Bone show. Let's talk about UNC and
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  Speaker 2: Clemson's game. Did you view that as Clemson made adjustments
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  Speaker 2: after getting down early, found something, got Tate Reynolds going
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  Speaker 2: with some confidence?
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  Speaker 3: Did you view that as well done Clemson?
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  Speaker 2: Did you view that as Carolina blowing a lead and
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  Speaker 2: Heels fans should be ticked?
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  Speaker 3: How did you view that game?
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  Speaker 4: I thought Carolina lost that game in the first quarter
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  Speaker 4: and a half. They should have been so far ahead,
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  Speaker 4: and their offense went away. I don't think they ran
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  Speaker 4: the ball well enough. Maybe that's Clemson, but it looked
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  Speaker 4: early on as though Carolina was just going to run
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  Speaker 4: through them like poop through a goose, and that just
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  Speaker 4: went the other way. And certainly I do think the
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  Speaker 4: lightning delay mattered. They were not the same team after
• 8:33
  Speaker 4: the lightning delay, but I thought they lost that game
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  Speaker 4: in the first half more so than the second part
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  Speaker 4: of the game. And I think what Dabo said after
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  Speaker 4: the game was true. They wore Carolina down. The Tar
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  Speaker 4: Heels don't have the depth that Clemson has, even though
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  Speaker 4: Clemson's kind of middling as well. But to me, Carolina
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  Speaker 4: lost that game in the first half, not the second half.
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  Speaker 1: Adam, a week from today, we get to see the
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  Speaker 1: Canes in action for the first time, 5 p.m. next
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday against the Florida Panthers. The NHL could be a
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  Speaker 1: little topsy-turvy year to year. All of a sudden, the
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  Speaker 1: team that was good a year before may not have
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  Speaker 1: a good year. Who's the biggest challenger right now entering
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: the season to the Canes in the Eastern Conference?
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  Speaker 4: In the division, I believe it will be Washington with
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  Speaker 4: an outside chance at New Jersey. In the conference... I
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  Speaker 4: know that everybody says it's Florida, and Florida won the
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  Speaker 4: two Cups prior to Carolina, and they returned basically that
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  Speaker 4: entire team plus Brady Kachuk, because Alexander Barkov is back
• 9:39
  Speaker 4: from injury. But I think Montreal is going to be
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  Speaker 4: the best team in the Atlantic Division, not Florida. Brad
• 9:45
  Speaker 4: Marchand's already hurt. It's an older team. I think Florida's
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  Speaker 4: a blue line. which, if they can stay healthy, will
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  Speaker 4: be really good. But, man, there's a lot of injury
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  Speaker 4: history on that back end, and there's some age on
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  Speaker 4: that back end, too. Uh, and Jacob Markstrom, that is
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  Speaker 4: a total wild card. There's a lot of teams in the, uh,
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  Speaker 4: East with wild cards and goal, but Jacob Markstrom is
• 10:07
  Speaker 4: a big wild card in goal for me. Um, but
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  Speaker 4: I think Montreal is going to win the Atlanta before
• 10:12
  Speaker 4: it was going to be very good. I think Tampa
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  Speaker 4: will be good. I think Buffalo will be good. It's a, uh,
• 10:16
  Speaker 4: the Atlantic division is a great division. Um, there's going
• 10:20
  Speaker 4: to be a team that's going to miss the playoffs
• 10:22
  Speaker 4: in that division that could advance a couple of rounds.
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: All right, Goldie. Next week, we will talk more about
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: the Panthers. It'll be opening day of the season next
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: Tuesday when we talk to you. We also will talk
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: about how NC State blew a game against App State.
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: We'll have that conversation, too. Oh, my God, don't do it.
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: I love App, though. I love App. I wish the
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: game was up there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would add even more intrigue to it. But, yeah,
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: we've got App State fans are crowing. They think State's vulnerable.
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: We will see. We will see. We will see. All right, Goldie,
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: you're the man. Thanks for coming on, as always, brother.
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: You got it.
• 10:58
  Speaker 4: Talk to you later.
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: Peace.