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BURN AFTER READING: Did Brian Laundrie's Parents Know All Along Gabby Was Dead? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, beautiful young, her whole life
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Speaker 1: in front of her. We will always remember the name
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Speaker 1: of Gabby Petito. May she rest in peace, but her
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Speaker 1: case is not over yet. In the last days, a
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Speaker 1: stunning turn of events. I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories,
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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation
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Speaker 1: and Sirius XM one eleven. First of all, a very
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Speaker 1: eerie and disturbing photo emerges of Gabby Potito. She's bruised
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Speaker 1: and bloodied, and a shocking new picture taken after the
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Speaker 1: so called domestic incident. And why is it called a
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Speaker 1: domestic incident? Domestic seems like, I don't know, somebody's home
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Speaker 1: and maybe someone's cooking a wonderful dinner and you're all
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Speaker 1: gathered around the supper table talking about the day's events,
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Speaker 1: with a fire in the background and good smells coming
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Speaker 1: from the kitchen. This is hard. This is anything but
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Speaker 1: a domestic incident. Gabby Potito is crying with a black eye,
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Speaker 1: a bloodied face. A new photo showing the slain Long
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Speaker 1: Island girl Gabby Potito with blood smeared across her face.
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Speaker 1: Now this is just weeks before Gabby Potito is found
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Speaker 1: dead in Wyoming dispersed camping, far far away from a
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Speaker 1: plug in electric spot, a gas station, a lighting fixture
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Speaker 1: or porta potti anything like you're out in the wild
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Speaker 1: when you are dispersed camping, And that is where her
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Speaker 1: body was left to be torn apart by animals by
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Speaker 1: Brian Laundry, her so called fiancee. Remember the two had
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Speaker 1: gone on across the country trip in her van. Then
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Speaker 1: he comes back across country to mommy and Daddy in Florida,
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Speaker 1: using her van and her credit cards to pay his way,
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Speaker 1: but no Gabby. This photo was taken after a so
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Speaker 1: called domestic incident, with not one but two eyewitnesses that
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Speaker 1: call nine one describing a white male beating a white
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Speaker 1: female on the street for Pete's sake. I mean, if
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Speaker 1: he would do this on main street near Moab, what
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Speaker 1: would he do behind closed doors? What would he do
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Speaker 1: once he is alone with her out in dispersed camping. Well,
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Speaker 1: I think we know the answer to that. Kill her.
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Speaker 1: That is what happened to Gabby Petito. She was bludgeoned
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Speaker 1: and strangled dead by Brian Laundry. Remains found that Wyoming
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Speaker 1: preserved back on September eighteenth. Well, now we learn that
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Speaker 1: the photo was taken by Gabby herself. Gabby took this selfie. Horrible,
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Speaker 1: horrible selfie. I mean when I look at it, I
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Speaker 1: just want to cry. As a matter of fact, she
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Speaker 1: is crying in the picture. Now, this is the twist.
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Speaker 1: Moab police, she's beaten. After this beating, decide that she
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Speaker 1: is the aggressor and they do not separate the two.
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Speaker 1: They let them go and Gabby Petito goes on to
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Speaker 1: her death. She is treated as the aggressor, even with
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Speaker 1: her face looking like that. And as a result of that,
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Speaker 1: the Potito family has now filed a multi million dollar
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Speaker 1: lawsuit against Moab Police. Not only that, another lawsuit going
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Speaker 1: right now. The Potito family now suing Roberta and Christopher Laundry,
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Speaker 1: Brian Laundry's parents for oh and their lawyer, Bertolini, for
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Speaker 1: intentional infliction of emotional distress. Why because of a letter
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Speaker 1: that has emerged from FBI files that was taken out
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Speaker 1: of Brian Laundry's backpack amongst his belongings that he had
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Speaker 1: with him when he committed suicide in Carlton Reserve, about
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Speaker 1: twenty five thousand acres of mostly swamp and that he
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Speaker 1: not only confesses to killing Gabby, but the FBI also
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Speaker 1: finds a letter written to Laundry, purportedly by his mother, Roberta. Laundry,
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Speaker 1: stating that not only will she help get him out
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Speaker 1: of prison, but she'll bring a shovel to help bury
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Speaker 1: a body. On the outside of the envelope was written Burne.
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Speaker 1: After reading the Potitos say they believe mister and missus
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Speaker 1: Laundry and their lawyer, Bertolini, new full well that Gabby
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Speaker 1: was dead, refused to answer the Potitoes calls their texts,
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Speaker 1: pretending like they were hoping Gabby would be found alive,
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Speaker 1: all the while knowing Gabby was dead, putting the Potito
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Speaker 1: family through extreme emotional distress. Gabrielle Gabby Potito's body was
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Speaker 1: found out in a dispersed camping area far away from home.
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Speaker 1: But where was her boyfriend? The fiance that she traveled
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Speaker 1: across the country with, vlogging, video blogging the whole way
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Speaker 1: about the van life. If you haven't looked at those vlogs,
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Speaker 1: they're incredible. She's really talented. Wow, he comes home and
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Speaker 1: her van was all of her stuff using her credit cards,
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Speaker 1: but no Gabby. Her family has now sued the family
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Speaker 1: of so called fiance Brian Laundry, saying they aided and
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Speaker 1: abedded him while hiding the evidence from Gabby's parents as
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Speaker 1: they desperately tried to find their daughter. I mean, when
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Speaker 1: I got pick up the twins at school, when they
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Speaker 1: start being five, ten fifteen minutes late, I get out
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Speaker 1: of the car and I go looking for them. Children
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Speaker 1: have disappeared on school playgrounds, in school areas. Can you
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Speaker 1: imagine what Gabby Petito's parents went through as they called
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Speaker 1: and they called, and they texted, and they emailed Laundry's parents,
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Speaker 1: and then they find out the worst Laundry's home, Gabby's
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Speaker 1: van is parked in the driveway, but no Gabby. How
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Speaker 1: do you think they felt when they find out the
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Speaker 1: Laundries take Brian Laundry on a camping trip. They go
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Speaker 1: camping and they what sit around the campfire and have somemores,
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Speaker 1: But no Gabby. Nobody said, hey, where's Gabby? Can you
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Speaker 1: imagine that feeling in their gut, in their mind, in
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Speaker 1: their heart when her cell phone goes straight to voicemail
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Speaker 1: every single time and they know, but yet they don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't even want to think about it. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I see Grace. This is crime Stories. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us here at Fox Nation and series Sex
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Speaker 1: sim one eleven. You know I used to tell that
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Speaker 1: to juries all the years I tried fell any cases.
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Speaker 1: You can't turn away. You cannot turn away from the truth.
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Speaker 1: It's our duty to look at the truth and determine
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Speaker 1: what is just Joining me an all star panel to
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Speaker 1: make sense of what we know right now. But first
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Speaker 1: I want you to listen to our cut one from
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Speaker 1: ABC seven. Two heartbroken families now taking the battle to court.
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Speaker 1: More than six months after the murder of Gabby Potito,
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Speaker 1: her parents, Joseph Potito and Nicole Schmidt, are now suing
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Speaker 1: Ryan Laundry's family. The civil laws, who filed in Florida
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Speaker 1: on Thursday, alleges Brian's parents, Christopher and ROBERTA. Laundry, knew
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Speaker 1: their son had murdered Gabby on or around August twenty
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Speaker 1: eighth of last year. Potito and her fiance left New
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Speaker 1: York early July in a van to travel the country.
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Speaker 1: After several weeks of visiting national parks, Brian returned to
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Speaker 1: Florida in the van without Gabby when he refused to
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Speaker 1: cooperate with the authorities, suspicion turned to him and then
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Speaker 1: he went missing. His remains were found weeks later. Think
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Speaker 1: about it. We believe Gabby was killed August twenty eight.
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Speaker 1: Her body was not found until September nineteen. Think about
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Speaker 1: all that time the family was left hanging blood in
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Speaker 1: the wind, wondering where is their beautiful girl? Crime stories
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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace in the last days. A selfie taken
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Speaker 1: by Gabby Potito of her bruised and bloodied has emerged
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Speaker 1: after a euphemistically described domestic incident where her so called
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Speaker 1: fiance beat her badly, and even after this beating, the
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Speaker 1: Moab police treated her as the aggressor. In addition to that,
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Speaker 1: lawsuits being filed by the Potitos against the Moab Police
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Speaker 1: and against Brian Laundry's parents and his lawyer. Why to
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Speaker 1: senior correspondent special guests joining us Fox News, Laura Ingle, Laura,
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Speaker 1: does it never end with the Laundries? Does it never end?
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Speaker 1: I mean, don't you think that at some point they
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Speaker 1: would have held out an all the branch for Pete's
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Speaker 1: say and said, listen, we're gonna file, We're gonna fly
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Speaker 1: to your place. This weekend. I know you hate us
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Speaker 1: right now, but let us tell you our side of
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Speaker 1: what happened, What we need when we knew, what we thought,
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Speaker 1: we need what we didn't know to set your heart
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Speaker 1: at rest. You know, we knew that this was coming.
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Speaker 1: We knew that the family members of Gabby Petito, the
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Speaker 1: parents the two sets, were going to be filing a lawsuit.
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Speaker 1: It is a civil lawsuit filed against Christ and ROBERTA. Laundry.
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Speaker 1: And while there is not a ton of evidence listed
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Speaker 1: in the civil lawsuit about what they knew and when
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Speaker 1: they knew it, in terms of just the detail, they
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Speaker 1: do lay out the dates that it is believed that
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Speaker 1: Honor about August twenty eighth, Brian Laundry advised his parents
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Speaker 1: that he had murdered Gabrielle Petito, And on that same date,
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Speaker 1: Chris Laundry and Roberto Laundry spoke with their attorney, Steve
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Speaker 1: Bertolino and sent him a retainer. Just a few days later,
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Speaker 1: September second, And when you go through this lawsuit, you're right,
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Speaker 1: you think about you reminded of the dates, of the timing,
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Speaker 1: of the pacing, of when the couple was last seen
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Speaker 1: out west, when Brian Laundry returned to Florida in Gabby's
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Speaker 1: van without her, and then that radio silence that broke
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Speaker 1: everyone's part as everyone stood outside of the Laundry's home saying,
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Speaker 1: where is Gabby? Do you know something? Well? This lawsuit though,
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Speaker 1: you know stapan black and white, the civil lawsuit asking
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Speaker 1: for damages, that they knew and that they did not
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Speaker 1: share that information and we were Remember I was at
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Speaker 1: the press conference for Gabby Petito's parents when Rick Stafford
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Speaker 1: came out and read a statement saying, we beg you
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Speaker 1: to tell us as a parent, how could you let
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Speaker 1: us go through this pain and not help us? And
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Speaker 1: you know, I think that the other thing that we
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Speaker 1: kind of surmise from this lawsuit is that these this family,
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Speaker 1: if they knew, and it appears that they did roll
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Speaker 1: the dice and said we're not going to say anything.
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Speaker 1: Because I was in Wyoming when Gabby was found. I
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Speaker 1: went to that campground were her body I remember that
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Speaker 1: was and so it was it was beautiful and the
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Speaker 1: trees had just turned, but it turned really cold and
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Speaker 1: icing snowy very very soon after. So you've gotta think
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Speaker 1: did everybody on the Laundry side think that if they
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Speaker 1: just stayed quiet long enough, maybe she would not wait
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Speaker 1: a minute. You just gave me an idea, Laura Angele,
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Speaker 1: First of all, talk news like drinking from a fire hydra.
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Speaker 1: It's just so much information at once. The idea you
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Speaker 1: just gave me. I want to know where we're getting
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Speaker 1: the date August twenty eight, that that's the day we
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Speaker 1: believe Brian Laundry told his parents I murdered Gabby, and
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Speaker 1: I can guaran damn tee, you technical legal term. That's
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Speaker 1: not what he said. He didn't say. I beat her.
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Speaker 1: I bludgeoned her head, then I strangled her until she died. No, no, no,
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Speaker 1: he probably made up some bs about oh she said
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Speaker 1: this and then she hit me and I hit her back,
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Speaker 1: and oh she fell and hit her head on a
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Speaker 1: rock and died. But you told me August twenty eight,
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Speaker 1: and I'm assuming we're defining what it's on page three
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Speaker 1: of them. It's on page of three. Think about it.
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Speaker 1: If the Laundries knew, if it could be proven, the
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Speaker 1: Laundries knew Gabby was dead, and they let law enforcement
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Speaker 1: and all of the personnel involved, the US Marshals, the FBI,
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Speaker 1: the local law enforcement, Northport the law enforcement at the
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Speaker 1: granteeas everybody's searching, how much did that cost? And the
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Speaker 1: whole time they knew she was dead and they knew
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Speaker 1: where can they be prosecuted? Yes? No? In a nutshell,
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Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick, I think yes, And I think that what
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Speaker 1: you're going to find out with this civil lawsuit might
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Speaker 1: yield the type of evidence that criminal authorities might use
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Speaker 1: to build their own case if they knew something at
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Speaker 1: a time when they could have prevented further harm, when
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Speaker 1: they could have prevented further expense, when they could have
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Speaker 1: spared law enforcement the time and resources. Think about the
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Speaker 1: resources that were expended looking for Gabby if they knew
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Speaker 1: she was dead. Now, on the other side of that,
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Speaker 1: you could argue, well, what exactly did they know? And
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Speaker 1: I think you queue that up nicely. What did Brian
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Speaker 1: actually say? The lawsuit mentioned text messages back and forth.
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Speaker 1: That's going to be an important piece of evidence. You're
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Speaker 1: right about that, what if anything they could face criminally? Okay,
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCall am, I here, you're trying to jump in
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Speaker 1: and go, oh my gosh. The thing that just draft
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Speaker 1: me is saying the additional element of waiting the thirteen days, right,
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Speaker 1: and then the additional eight days before she's actually found Nancy.
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Speaker 1: The amount of evidence that could have been lost may
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Speaker 1: have been lost. She's out in the elements. There's going
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Speaker 1: to be animal activity. There's going to be whether why
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Speaker 1: do you say animal activity? You and Joe Scott want
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Speaker 1: to both do that. Wait a minute, let's just say
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Speaker 1: what it really is. Okay, and it tastes like dirt,
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Speaker 1: but animal activity, what you're talking about is Gabby's body
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Speaker 1: lying out in the elements, the tetons and animals ripping
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Speaker 1: her body apart and chewing on her and gnawing on her.
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Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about. That is what the Gabby
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Speaker 1: Potito family has to live with twenty four seven every
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Speaker 1: day of the year. I mean, that's what we're talking about,
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Speaker 1: all right, So let's just say what it is. Cheryl McCollum,
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Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, and there is nothing more repugnant and vile.
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. The gate for letting her family
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Speaker 1: live through that, and now they got to live the
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Speaker 1: rest of their lives. They got to know that's what
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Speaker 1: happened to their girl. That's right, asked her. She was
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Speaker 1: brutally murdered by the very person that was supposed to
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Speaker 1: be taken care of her and the most again repugnant
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Speaker 1: and vile and straight devil when ROBERTA. Laundry blocked Gabby's
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Speaker 1: mama's phone number and then blocked her on social media. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I forgot about that, Laura Ingle, that the Laundry's actually
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Speaker 1: blocked Gabby's family from trying to contact them. Is that true?
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Speaker 1: It is true. It is. That is what we have
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Speaker 1: read about the reports. We've talked to them, and it
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Speaker 1: goes back to that desperation of that time frame that
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Speaker 1: we're talking about, of begging them, and to think of
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Speaker 1: that and go back in your mind of the news coverage,
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Speaker 1: the bike riding, the mowing of the lawn, taking trips
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Speaker 1: to the store, the camping trip, all of that, and
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Speaker 1: when you think about what's in this civil lawsuit about
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Speaker 1: how he it is believed that he confessed to his parents,
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Speaker 1: and you're right now feel like, we don't know exactly
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Speaker 1: what we said. We don't know if he detailed it
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Speaker 1: a mom and dad it was an accident. I don't
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Speaker 1: know what to do. I'm scared him coming home. We
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Speaker 1: don't know what was said. Boy, I think there's something hard,
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Speaker 1: Laura Angle. I think there's something hard. If the documents
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Speaker 1: say odd twenty eight, they've got hard evidence of that
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Speaker 1: is it is a text, is an email? And hey,
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Speaker 1: happen again, Laura Angle, drink from the fire hydrant, Karen starting,
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Speaker 1: Did you hear Laura Ingle? And this is a hypothetical.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about what he told his parents, and I said,
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Speaker 1: I can guarantee you he didn't say, hey, I murdered
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Speaker 1: Gabby and left her body out there to be torn
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Speaker 1: apart by animals. He probably says some BS story about
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Speaker 1: she hit me, then I pushed her, or she hit
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Speaker 1: her head on a rock or tree, she died just
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Speaker 1: like that. Of course that's alibel. Wait a minute, Laura
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Speaker 1: Ingle says, well, what if he says something like, mom, Dad,
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Speaker 1: I'm upset Gabby died and I'm so upset I don't
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Speaker 1: know what to do. He's not so upset. He didn't
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Speaker 1: stuff his piehole the way whole way home, thousands of
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Speaker 1: miles on Gabby's credit card. Do you think he felt
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Speaker 1: bad when he drove through Burger King and had it
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Speaker 1: his way or is that McDonald's Yeah, it's Burger King.
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Speaker 1: What about that he wasn't so upset he couldn't eat.
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Speaker 1: He left a trail a mile wide on her credit
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Speaker 1: card and her debit card, Nancy. He also on August thirty, remember,
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Speaker 1: he sent a text message from Gabby's cell phone to
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Speaker 1: the Gabby's move and saying no service in Yosemite, in
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Speaker 1: an effort to make her mother believe that she was
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Speaker 1: still alive. You're so right, Laura Anle. He's not upset.
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Speaker 1: He's upset like a snake after him. You got the grandfather,
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Karen story Champan. He didn't just he sent
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Speaker 1: texts pretending that he was her. He was so upset
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Speaker 1: that he was able to go home and be with
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Speaker 1: mommy and daddy and Nancy. When you think about this,
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Speaker 1: when you think about how hard it is to lose
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Speaker 1: a child, for parents, it's something that you never get over.
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Speaker 1: It's not the way it's supposed to be. And then
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Speaker 1: on top of that, it's hard enough to imagine your
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Speaker 1: child dead, let alone being eaten by animals, being abandoned.
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Speaker 1: And there is no doubt in my mind that he
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Speaker 1: said she provoked him. Oh, no doubt in my mind
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Speaker 1: at all, no doubt. Take a listen to our cut
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Speaker 1: three our friends from Fox thirteen. Parents of the young
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Speaker 1: woman who lived such a colorful life are trying to
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Speaker 1: avenge her death by putting in black and white the
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Speaker 1: horrible details of what they went through. The allegations contained
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Speaker 1: within this the four Corners it is complaint they're salacious
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Speaker 1: in arguing that the Laundries quote knew they could alleviate,
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Speaker 1: at least in part, such mental suffering and anguish. The
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Speaker 1: Potitos said they believed that on August twenty eighth, Laundry,
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Speaker 1: while still in Wyoming, advised his parents he had murdered Gabby. But,
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Speaker 1: as the lawsuit points out, for several weeks, the Laundries
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Speaker 1: not only refused to talk to the Potitos, they put
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Speaker 1: out statements saying they hope she could be found alive
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Speaker 1: if they did what is alleged in the four Corners
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Speaker 1: this complaint. The Laundry family acted with indecency. They acted
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Speaker 1: not as humans. This girl was part of their family.
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Speaker 1: The Laundries were accused for weeks by protesters of not
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Speaker 1: being forthcoming. Jess got Morgan, professor forensics, Jacksonville State University
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Speaker 1: and start of Bodybacks is Joseph Scott Morgan jump in
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Speaker 1: Joe Scott going back to Brian Londry. You know, one
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Speaker 1: of the things I'm thinking about is there's so much deception.
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Speaker 1: I think that goes along with where his you know,
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Speaker 1: his his location throughout this whole thing. The car. You remember,
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Speaker 1: we reflect back to how did he wind up out there?
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Speaker 1: Where did he go? You remember how much time we
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Speaker 1: spent speculating about where he may have gone. And you
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Speaker 1: know I'm speculating, Jessica Morgan, I call it analyzing the
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Speaker 1: events that we need. Well, yeah, people were say in Mexico,
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Speaker 1: all these other things, and there is a there's a
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Speaker 1: thread that runs through this of deception and it's not
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Speaker 1: surprising relative to you know, when we look at what
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Speaker 1: happened to Gabby and his his murder of her, and
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Speaker 1: then move forward what happened to him coming back to
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Speaker 1: his parents, I'm thinking, you know, what is it that
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Speaker 1: they haven't told us about him and his activities? You know,
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Speaker 1: when I looked over the and the report that we
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Speaker 1: got back was absolutely voluminous. I mean it just goes
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Speaker 1: on and on and own relative to his body. I
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Speaker 1: don't know that in my memory I've seen one quite
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Speaker 1: uh this inclusive of everything. You know, They report that
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Speaker 1: he was last seen on the thirteenth. They didn't fill
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Speaker 1: out this missing person's report until like the seventeenth of September,
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Speaker 1: and he was so far gone by the time the
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Speaker 1: authorities got out there they could not actually pin down.
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Speaker 1: This is the forensic anthropologists could not actually pin down
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Speaker 1: a specific time of death. They did and they were
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Speaker 1: able to recover that. But Nancy to give you an idea,
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Speaker 1: the best she could do, and one of her calculations was, now,
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Speaker 1: get this any where from forty seven days to six
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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy two days as an estimation of post
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Speaker 1: mortem intervals. That's how far gone he was. And I
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Speaker 1: still have a major question again about this gunshot wound.
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Speaker 1: He sustained. He is right hand dominant. This is a
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Speaker 1: left handed entrance wound that we have that has been
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Speaker 1: validated by not just the forensic anthropologist but also the
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Speaker 1: forensic pathologist. And where in the hell did this revolver
24:25
Speaker 1: come from? Who belong who did it belong to? What's
24:30
Speaker 1: you know, what's the genesis of it? And I don't
24:32
Speaker 1: think that that's been thoroughly addressed as well. Well. I
24:35
Speaker 1: think you're absolutely correct back to the lawsuit, did you
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Speaker 1: see to Laura Ingles, special guest joining us Fox and
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Speaker 1: you used correspondent senior correspondent Laura Aunt specifically in paragraph
24:50
Speaker 1: thirty one. In civil lawsuits various courses of action, sometimes
24:59
Speaker 1: it can take several sentences to explain, and typically each
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Speaker 1: paragraph it can be one sentence, it can be five sentences.
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Speaker 1: Is numbered. This is number thirty one. Do you see that?
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Speaker 1: Do you see what that says about Christopher and ROBERTA
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Speaker 1: Laundry's behavior? Explain? You know, they say, And to go
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Speaker 1: back a page and that is the number thirty one.
25:21
Speaker 1: That pracious. It's utterly horrible. But let me let me
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Speaker 1: see this up because if you go back one page
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Speaker 1: in item twenty five, they write on September fourteenth, with
25:33
Speaker 1: full knowledge that Gabrielle Potito had been murdered by their son.
25:37
Speaker 1: The Laundry lawyer put out a statement thing, it is
25:39
Speaker 1: our understanding that a search has been organized for miss
25:42
Speaker 1: Petito in or near Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming,
25:45
Speaker 1: on behalf of the Laundry family. It is our hope
25:48
Speaker 1: that the search for miss Petito is successful and that
25:50
Speaker 1: Miss Petito is reunited with her family that September fourteenth,
25:55
Speaker 1: and as you go down to fast forwarding to knowing
25:57
Speaker 1: what happened, they write in the lawsuit, Christopher Laundry and ROBERTA.
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Speaker 1: Laundry exhibited extreme and outrageous conduct, which constitutes behavior under
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Speaker 1: the circumstances, which goes beyond all possible bounds of decency
26:11
Speaker 1: and is regarded as shocking, atrocious, and utterly intolerable in
26:16
Speaker 1: a civilized community. Who could blame them? Who? Well, who
26:19
Speaker 1: could blame them? I mean, you know, you think about
26:21
Speaker 1: the timeline, and you know, if all of this is true,
26:24
Speaker 1: and if they knew those details, and then they put
26:27
Speaker 1: out a statement, sure we hope that she sound and
26:30
Speaker 1: they knew where she was. It just makes your stomach turn.
26:34
Speaker 1: But Nancy, we can prove they knew it. On September tenth,
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Speaker 1: when her daddy went to their house and knocked on
26:41
Speaker 1: the door and they wouldn't even come to the door.
26:43
Speaker 1: He had to put out in front of God and
26:45
Speaker 1: country on social media, I'm going to the police if
26:48
Speaker 1: you don't tell me something. So then he goes to
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Speaker 1: the police on September the eleventh. They knew it, They
26:54
Speaker 1: knew it, and they acted up I'm not sure. Okay,
27:01
Speaker 1: put this in your pipe and smoke at Cheryl mccollumn.
27:03
Speaker 1: You're ready. On that day, August twenty eight, that's the
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Speaker 1: day Christopher and ROBERTA. Laundry speak with attorney Steve Bertolino. Suddenly.
27:17
Speaker 1: That's the day they go, whoa, whoa, what we need
27:20
Speaker 1: a criminal lawyer? And then they follow up about two
27:25
Speaker 1: days later with the retainer. That's right now. As I
27:30
Speaker 1: always say, there is no coincidence in criminal laws. So,
27:33
Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick, what about it? California prosecutors, that's the day
27:38
Speaker 1: they decide they need a high power criminal defense attorney
27:40
Speaker 1: who ps great Criminal defense attorneys are usually not seen
27:46
Speaker 1: or herd outside the courtroom. They don't want to be
27:50
Speaker 1: stars in their own right on TV or this or that.
27:55
Speaker 1: Have you ever noticed that, Wendy Patrick? That's true. It's
27:58
Speaker 1: also true that in this case, the fact that they
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Speaker 1: spoke on August twenty eighth is going to be so
28:04
Speaker 1: important for the timeline because guess what two days later,
28:08
Speaker 1: on August thirtieth, is when Laundry apparently sent an additional
28:12
Speaker 1: text for Potito's phone to Schmidt, saying there was no
28:15
Speaker 1: service in your seventy Clark in an effort leaving her
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Speaker 1: to believe Gabby was still alive. So that's after the
28:22
Speaker 1: twenty eighth when the lawyer is hired. And so when
28:24
Speaker 1: you look at what would fuel this lawsuit, that's a
28:27
Speaker 1: huge point. Well what really is Just think about it,
28:32
Speaker 1: Laura Ingle, think about it. So he gets home, they
28:37
Speaker 1: know Gabby's dead, and they go for a camp out.
28:43
Speaker 1: The family goes on a little trip and camps out.
28:48
Speaker 1: They sit around the campfire, they grill out, they eat.
28:51
Speaker 1: Other people at the camp remembers De Soto camp grows.
28:54
Speaker 1: See them now what I was I was talking about
28:57
Speaker 1: this this morning about the you know about Brian being
29:00
Speaker 1: seeing walking around. We know that the sister was there.
29:04
Speaker 1: Now did they go camping to try and kind of
29:06
Speaker 1: come together as the family and say what are we
29:09
Speaker 1: gonna do? But it doesn't look like it. From the
29:11
Speaker 1: pictures and from the stories that we've heard from people
29:13
Speaker 1: who saw them there, it looked like they were genuinely
29:16
Speaker 1: can't take Laura gamp And I bring this up only
29:21
Speaker 1: when I'm projecting, But Laura, I remember when my fiancee
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Speaker 1: was murdered. I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep. I lost
29:31
Speaker 1: down to eighty nine pounds. The smell of food made
29:34
Speaker 1: me sick just to smell it. I remember the first
29:38
Speaker 1: thing I finally ate or consumed. It was a glass
29:42
Speaker 1: of orange juice as the first thing that did not
29:45
Speaker 1: make me literally nauseous after Cath murder. So how and
29:52
Speaker 1: the h E double L? Is this a family knowing
29:57
Speaker 1: that Gabby is dead and being torn up part by
30:00
Speaker 1: animals out in the rain, lying there on the dirt.
30:08
Speaker 1: How could they go to a campout? How could they
30:11
Speaker 1: do that? There's no explanation, There's none none. None of
30:16
Speaker 1: us on this panel, nobody listening could even imagine doing
30:20
Speaker 1: what they did right if they knew, and it looks
30:23
Speaker 1: like they did, how could you? You're absolutely right, And
30:26
Speaker 1: it is a point that I believe that Petito Schmidtz
30:30
Speaker 1: will hope will come out in court. They want to
30:32
Speaker 1: get to a courtroom because there's more. There's more information
30:36
Speaker 1: that obviously wasn't released by the FBI, that wasn't released
30:40
Speaker 1: in the investigation. People want to know more and if
30:42
Speaker 1: they can and if they can push the civil lawsuit
30:44
Speaker 1: and get into that next level. This is a first
30:47
Speaker 1: Volley time Stories with Nancy grace in the last days
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Speaker 1: of multiple lawsuits being filed against Moab police and against
31:09
Speaker 1: Brian Laundry's parents and lawyer. As a photo of Gabby
31:13
Speaker 1: Petito emerges. She is bruised, bloody, crying, and even after
31:18
Speaker 1: this beating at the hands of Brian Laundry, Moab police
31:22
Speaker 1: still say she is the aggressor and did ROBERTA. Laundry
31:29
Speaker 1: send a letter to her son Brian claiming she would
31:35
Speaker 1: show up with a shovel or loan him a shovel
31:38
Speaker 1: and help bury a body, help get him out of prison,
31:43
Speaker 1: and striking him to burn after reading the letter. According
31:47
Speaker 1: to the FBI, there is such a letter. Is that
31:53
Speaker 1: grounds to support a lawsuit by the Potitos against the Laundries.
31:58
Speaker 1: After all, this family, the Potito family, has been through
32:06
Speaker 1: lawsuits flying a horrific and haunting selfie emerging of Gabby
32:13
Speaker 1: Potito beaten and bloody. That's how she looked apparently when
32:19
Speaker 1: she was pulled over along with Laundry by Moat police,
32:22
Speaker 1: but they let the two go on their way and
32:25
Speaker 1: she ends up dead. Experts could easily have predicted that
32:34
Speaker 1: the fiance so coll fiance Brian Laundry, who is now
32:40
Speaker 1: known to have killed Gabby. Petito murdered her, bloods into her,
32:43
Speaker 1: strangle to her, and left her body to decompose in
32:47
Speaker 1: the elements. Her family is now suing his family, claiming
32:52
Speaker 1: they knew for a long time that Gabby was dead
32:56
Speaker 1: and refused to tell the parents anything. In fact, the
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Speaker 1: warning law enforcement and the family as well take a
33:04
Speaker 1: listen to our cut for our friends at Fox thirteen.
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Speaker 1: Police in Northport said they'd not gotten cooperation as to
33:12
Speaker 1: whether they knew anything about where Gabby was, but the
33:15
Speaker 1: Laundries did tell police Brian had not returned from the
33:18
Speaker 1: reserve where he was eventually found dead. But the new
33:22
Speaker 1: lawsuit alleges the Laundries had been making arrangements for Brian
33:25
Speaker 1: to leave the country. Their family attorney denied the allegations,
33:30
Speaker 1: saying the lawsuit does not change the fact that the
33:32
Speaker 1: Laundries had no obligation to speak to law enforcement or
33:36
Speaker 1: any third party, including the Potito family. This fundamental legal
33:40
Speaker 1: principle renders the Potito's claim to be baseless. Under the law,
33:44
Speaker 1: do we have a legal system where people are punished
33:47
Speaker 1: civilly for not cooperating with criminal investigations. The lawsuit does
33:52
Speaker 1: not say how the Potitos learned of the facts they allege,
33:55
Speaker 1: but they did have several meetings with investigators, including at
33:59
Speaker 1: the Tampa FBI office. After the investigation it was closed.
34:03
Speaker 1: The Potito family attorneys said there were multiple conversations between Brian,
34:08
Speaker 1: his parents, and their lawyer before he left Wyoming August thirtieth.
34:13
Speaker 1: So jos got morgan if we weren't half wrong, right,
34:17
Speaker 1: because they were trying to get him out of the
34:19
Speaker 1: country exactly what we had thought was going on. Yeah, push,
34:24
Speaker 1: push push. I you know, I had all kinds of ideas,
34:27
Speaker 1: you know, back then, thinking about how could they facilitate
34:30
Speaker 1: Remember when they were at that camping area. You know,
34:32
Speaker 1: I think a couple of us had thought that maybe
34:35
Speaker 1: by water, you know, how are you going to get
34:37
Speaker 1: him out of the reach of the US authorities, to
34:41
Speaker 1: get him spirited awesomewhere. We were thinking about, you know,
34:44
Speaker 1: him leaving with gobs of cash so that he could
34:46
Speaker 1: fall off of the radar, relative to using any kind
34:49
Speaker 1: of credit cards, which of course he had stolen gabbies
34:53
Speaker 1: and utilized it, and just you know, go abroad with
34:58
Speaker 1: US currency and try to make that happen. But how
35:00
Speaker 1: do you make that happen. I think that that's one
35:03
Speaker 1: of the big problems here when you have somebody that
35:06
Speaker 1: is not sophisticated in a way that the criminals work.
35:12
Speaker 1: You know, they don't know, you know, how how are
35:15
Speaker 1: we going to get him away from all of this trouble.
35:17
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, and at the
35:20
Speaker 1: end of the day they knew where his body was.
35:23
Speaker 1: I'm very curious as to what that final conversation was
35:26
Speaker 1: like with him, you know, did did he actually did
35:29
Speaker 1: he actually tell them? You know, Mom, Dad, I think
35:32
Speaker 1: I'm just going to go out here and end it
35:34
Speaker 1: and I'm going to tell you specifically where it was.
35:36
Speaker 1: Think about what Max said and what you said within
35:39
Speaker 1: forty five minutes, Nancy, in this vast area and it
35:42
Speaker 1: is vast, yeah, and where by the way, let me
35:46
Speaker 1: remind everybody we've forgotten about this group of people. They've
35:50
Speaker 1: put all of the searchers at risk out here, alligator snakes,
35:56
Speaker 1: dehydration for days, for days, and they put these people
36:00
Speaker 1: out there at risk and they walk right to the
36:03
Speaker 1: body and all of this evidence and Nancy, I gotta
36:06
Speaker 1: say one more thing. The most striking piece of evidence
36:10
Speaker 1: to me, and it's just the old death investigator in me.
36:14
Speaker 1: Out of everything, you know, we had skeletal remains, we
36:16
Speaker 1: had this weapon that we talked about. But one of
36:18
Speaker 1: the things that just made me want to bite the
36:20
Speaker 1: head off a tenpenny nail is that out there at
36:23
Speaker 1: that scene they found adjacent to his body red ball cap.
36:30
Speaker 1: You know what that red ball cap said, It said
36:33
Speaker 1: moab Roasters. I wonder where he bought that. Out of
36:38
Speaker 1: all the hats he could have chosen, that's the one
36:40
Speaker 1: that he picked up as he was walking out that
36:42
Speaker 1: door for the final time. And he went out there
36:44
Speaker 1: and he took that hat, and I think that hat
36:47
Speaker 1: left out there was a great, big old screw you
36:49
Speaker 1: to everybody. That's what I think. That's where he was
36:51
Speaker 1: caught beating Gabby out on the street as we all know,
36:57
Speaker 1: you know to Laura Ingle, senior correspondent Fox and he's
37:00
Speaker 1: joining us, Laura. I believe that in point number fourteen,
37:04
Speaker 1: paragraph number fourteen, the date is pinpointed the murder being
37:11
Speaker 1: August twenty seventh. I wonder if that's because that's the
37:15
Speaker 1: last day that her mother and Nicole Schmidt spoke with her.
37:18
Speaker 1: What do you think? I do believe it's that and
37:21
Speaker 1: it also coincides with their sightings. And remember the Moab
37:26
Speaker 1: incident happened, that's been so widely watched with the police
37:30
Speaker 1: BODYKAM footage. But then they make their way and they're
37:33
Speaker 1: in Jackson. I went to this place. It's the Mary
37:35
Speaker 1: Piglets in it's restaurant that it was a last known
37:39
Speaker 1: public sighting and we don't know what happened, and we've
37:43
Speaker 1: been trying to get our hands on any security footage
37:45
Speaker 1: of this restaurant. But there was some kind of a fight,
37:48
Speaker 1: some kind of an altercation between Brian and Gabby, an argument.
37:53
Speaker 1: They were last seen and so I and I stood there.
37:56
Speaker 1: So you're standing at the restaurant and you look down
37:58
Speaker 1: the long road, and down that long road is where
38:01
Speaker 1: the camp ground was. So they were at this restaurant,
38:03
Speaker 1: they have an argument, they get in the car, the van,
38:06
Speaker 1: they go down to the campground, they turn in, they
38:08
Speaker 1: set up camp. Then you know, the other bloggers fought
38:12
Speaker 1: the van, which helped us locate where they were. But
38:15
Speaker 1: it's that last those are the last moment. There was
38:18
Speaker 1: something going on on that date on August twenty seventh,
38:22
Speaker 1: during the day, and then it was later that night
38:26
Speaker 1: that that's when they believe. And there's forensics involved here too,
38:29
Speaker 1: and in terms of her body, where she was found,
38:32
Speaker 1: how she was found, that it all ties together that
38:35
Speaker 1: August twenty seventh is the date that she died. I
38:38
Speaker 1: want you to listen to our cut eleven and this
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Speaker 1: is JBB you know at WFLA News Channel eight. Listen
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Speaker 1: to this point number twenty five. On September fourteen, twenty
38:50
Speaker 1: twenty one, with full knowledge that Gabrielle Potito had been
38:53
Speaker 1: murdered by their son, Christopher Laundry, and ROBERTA. Laundry, through
38:56
Speaker 1: their lawyer, issued the following statement, quote unquote, it is
39:00
Speaker 1: our understanding that a search has been organized for miss
39:02
Speaker 1: Potito in or near Grand Titan National Park in Wyoming,
39:05
Speaker 1: on behalf of the Laundry family. It is our hope
39:07
Speaker 1: that the search for miss Potito is successful and that
39:10
Speaker 1: Miss Potito is reunited with her family. Point number twenty
39:13
Speaker 1: nine and point number thirty. As Laura Ingalls told us,
39:18
Speaker 1: full knowing their son had murdered Gabby, they give a
39:23
Speaker 1: public statement. Wow, I hope they find her. I just
39:30
Speaker 1: can't wait till this goes to a jury. We wait
39:34
Speaker 1: as just as some falls fancy Grace Crime's Toye signing
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Speaker 1: off goodbye friend,