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#188 - The Timelessness of Classic Albums · The Chris and Mike Show

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  It's all. About the rock'n'roll coochie
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  COO Uh huh. Felt a little spicy today.
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  Yeah. I'm going to tell you.
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  Oh. Give me a bottle of anything.
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  And a glazed doughnut. To go to go.
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  You had no idea what I was thinking today and then you just
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  said that. That's crazy dude, I love that
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  album. I'm.
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  Going to make it so quite clear. Hi boys and girls, this is
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  Chris. I'm Mike.
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  Or maybe not. Maybe it's the other way around.
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  Hey, we can do it backwards today.
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  So Mike's like, hey, dude, you know, I'm going to name a band.
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  I want you to tell me your favorite album.
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  And then I was like, he had no idea that I had one of my crates
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  of my albums out. This is fun because I didn't
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  realize that was what was inside this.
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  This is Ultra Bridge Walk the Sky double album.
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  Check out what's inside of it as I just opened it up.
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  Let me see. Fucking autograph picture.
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  Oh. That's all.
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  So it was captivating to me or intriguing when we talked to
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  Neander Paul, because I asked the question, you know, why
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  isn't Alter Bridge who they are and why aren't they famous and
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  he's. You know I love his answer.
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  Because they, they've never had they've, they've never had that
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  one hit, which is mind boggling to me because, because I mean,
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  I'm a fan. As a SO.
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  I'm so I'm skewed right, but some of the stuff I just it
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  blows my mind that they didn't. It's not a, there's not a hit.
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  Well, he, he kept using that word stank, right?
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  And for people that don't understand what that means, it
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  means there's an intangible quality to your your music that
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  you cannot understand why people like certain bands.
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  You know, why are ACDC the biggest band in the world?
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  It's because they write great songs, but they also have an
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  intangible quality that nobody can ever put their finger on.
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  They just understand it makes them want to move.
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  Right. For some reason, Alter Bridge
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  just never made anybody want to move on that level except you
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  and I and you know. And they haven't deputies still,
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  Yeah, they. Sell out theaters and.
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  They do. They read the both times I've
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  seen the marquee, it was packed. I'll make it legitimately was
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  this. I mean, thank God I was in the I
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  was on, you know, right here's the stage.
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  But when I turned and looked it's like holy shit, they said
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  you can't see an open space. No, and people are missing out
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  because they are a fantastic live band.
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  Just perfection you. Know and the cool the cool thing
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  about the the second time I saw them the opening act was was
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  mammoth his first Oh awesome right.
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  And then obviously the relationship with with them and
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  and Wolfgang carried over to this, their latest album, where
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  they recorded the entire thing in the 5150 studio at Eddie's
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  house. And there's another great band
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  that people should give a chance.
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  If you haven't listened to Mammoth, which was Eddie's son's
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  band, Wolfgang, he played every instrument on the album
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  rock'n'roll style, just like Prince did in the pop world, you
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  know? Oh, invasion of your privacy?
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  Uh huh, dude. See.
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  You're in love. Oh, that.
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  Lay it down. Right laying Down is one of the
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  favorite guitarists of all time. Yes.
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  That Thing Changed might be the two best ever written.
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  Yeah, just the just the opening riff of Lay It Down was fucking
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  fantastic. You cannot not hit the volume
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  knob when that happens. No.
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  Remember these guys? David, David, what was their hit
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  dude? Boomtown Welcome to the
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  Boomtown, OH. That's a great.
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  Song. That's Yeah, it is.
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  That's the only reason Miska's treated jabs in 9440.
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  Satisfaction oozes from a pole. That's a hose.
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  Remember in The Sopranos, when they go to, what's his name, the
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  Jewish guy that Hesh, they go to Hesh and he's running the record
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  label and like, I don't hear a hit.
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  It's like, well, what's a hit? And he's like, I don't know, but
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  that's not it. You.
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  Know. So this is this is this is funny
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  true story. Oh, I was gifted that record.
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  You want to know the true story? Yes.
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  I lost my virginity to this album.
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  Fantastic. Yeah.
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  I've never actually, I've never actually acknowledged that to
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  the girl that I lost my virginity to.
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  So if you're watching this show, you know who you are.
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  You did. You popped by Jerry this rainy
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  rose live. Here's another one.
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  Here's another one. This is a disappointing if if
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  it's disappointing now because the lead singer is is a a small
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  blimp and because it's just, it's such a phenomenal voice and
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  it's just so sad to see that he's allowed himself to get so
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  unhealthy. Really.
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  Yeah, Mike Reno, dude is fucking.
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  It's so unhealthy. He's I haven't seen him these
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  days, but I don't what I don't voice back in the.
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  Day. Oh my God.
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  Right. Unbelievable.
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  Voice. I don't know if I've ever
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  admitted this, but Hot Blooded is what made me want to play
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  guitar. Really.
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  Yeah. I heard that riff on the radio
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  when I was super young. Whenever that came out, you
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  know, I might have been 8-9. So here's, you know, everybody
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  has a little bit of gayness in them.
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  Here's my gay side I. Was going to say, what are you
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  trying to say? The little boy's gay.
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  No. 10,000 Oh I love 10,000 maybe.
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  Right. I know, but a lot of people like
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  dude, you're gay. Well, you know, you're a
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  songwriter and they write great songs.
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  Oh yeah, and Natalie Merchant. Dude this is 0.
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  Fucking what? A voice?
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  Yeah, yeah. God Dang, I don't have my
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  glasses I don't recognize. It's it's Cheap Trick Dream
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  Police, one of the most underrated bands ever.
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  When they were inducted to the Hall of Fame, it was, it was a,
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  it was a just a, a, a a lineage of who's who that has just,
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  they're one of those bands well. Here's a huge example.
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  When Chris logged on, I was jamming as I usually am.
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  I used that as practice time. Right, Right.
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  About 80% of the licks he was listening to were directly
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  stolen from Cheap Trick themselves.
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  Oh yeah, Robbie Krieger and the. Boys.
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  Yep, Yep, The Doors sold more albums than The Beatles in the
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  60s in America. The Doors did.
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  That's a fact. That is a fact.
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  They were the biggest band in America.
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  They were the biggest. This, this, this.
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  So these guys, I had a 113 pictures of them on the walls
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  when I was a teenager. Oh, I had quite a few myself
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  too. Yeah, this guy, just this guy
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  just died, Francis. Yeah.
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  He's dead now. Now the the disappointing thing
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  is, is when they had avhs of this right of this entire album
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  which was fucking phenomenal. Yeah, I watched it about a
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  bazillion times. Myself to to to where the little
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  lines of the VHS start crackling.
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  Yeah, the bottoms all fuzzy and. Right.
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  So I found it, I found it online, I found it on YouTube
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  and I was disappointed because either number one, I don't
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  remember how I, I thought I did and #2 it wasn't, it wasn't the
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  same cut. It's like a bunch of stuff out
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  which I was like, but that's fucking stupid.
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  You know, another one that happened to for me that I've
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  watched a million times as well was that priest Live that came
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  out in the 80s. I've never found a decent copy
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  of that. Yeah, So when I was a child, I
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  didn't understand what Edom Edom and smile meant.
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  I do now. We get and this, this.
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  I saw David Lee Roth on this tour.
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  I like to back a road. I did too.
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  He opened up for Cinderella. Yeah, he was.
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  He was headlining when I saw. Him or wait, it was, it was.
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  I got that backwards. So there you go.
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  Yeah. And it was at the Veterans
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  Memorial Coliseum. And I remember the cool thing
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  that he did. This was the height of him, I
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  think. I think because he was
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  phenomenal. He didn't record.
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  Outstanding dude. He, he wasn't drunk, he wasn't
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  an asshole. He he just, he just sang.
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  He was a showman. It was.
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  It was pretty cool. He.
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  Surfed Steve Vyat. Yeah, and.
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  Billy Sheen Yep. Yep.
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  And he surfed. He had this giant surfboard from
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  the back of back of OK, He did the U2, yeah, back of back of
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  Veterans Board Coliseum and he surfed down onto the stage.
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  I saw him at the Peoria Civic Center.
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  OK, same thing. Cool.
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  I must have been about 15, maybe 01 of the greatest selling
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  albums of all time. Right, right.
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  So when I dropped little men off today, I was wearing my red
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  shirt that says vinyl on it. And the the the teacher that
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  patrols the playground, he's like you in the records.
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  How'd you guess? Because I could have been a
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  Dick. What do you think, dumb ass?
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  But I was like, yeah, man, what's up this 15 minute
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  conversation about vinyl records and sound systems and shit?
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  When his dad came home from Vietnam, he brought all the
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  speaker shit with him because he did they weren't selling that
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  shit in America. So he he package mailed home
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  like pioneer speakers and turntables and shit and like had
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  the whole set up. I'm like, that's cool.
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  That's. Awesome, just from wearing my
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  vinyl shirt. The Unforgettable Fire, the one
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  that that that now the cooling like this one.
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  It was the promo. Oh, that's awesome.
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  The promo. The promo.
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  I got a good one for you yesterday.
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  I was walking out of the casino and I'm wearing my Sacred Wreck
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  shirt. And that was.
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  The only guy out of the whole casino, he was walking in as I
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  was walking out, he's like, yeah, man, nice shirt.
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  I say. Yeah, We opened up for him about
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  200 times, so we had to stop and talk about it for a second.
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  Very cool. Now you had referenced ACDC.
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  Oh, is that the Power Up album? Yes.
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  I like that album. Yep.
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  They took some shit for that one, but what are you going to
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  do when your primary songwriter dies?
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  Right. Power.
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  I think there's some good stuff on there.
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  I jammed that on my way back and forth to Michigan one time.
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  Oh, right on. What else we got in the record
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  collection today? Oh, oh, look at these young,
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  young bucks. That would be The Rolling
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  Stones. The.
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  Stones, the big hits, high tide and green grass.
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  The real. Call me crazy, but if they keep
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  practicing, I think they're going to become something.
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  Yeah, probably the cool thing about this album is the in the
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  in inset, it's paper. So if I can do this already,
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  it's paper. Like it's just paper, you know
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  what I mean? It's like a book.
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  Oh, that's cool. Yeah, that's what we missed
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  today in albums. And then, ironically enough,
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  like Neander Paul was talking about, you know, albums are
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  coming back and, you know, this was probably like $5, you know,
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  and now they're like 50. I've seen CDs that are out of
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  print that people are asking just outrageous money for, which
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  is why I don't own a copy of that Badlands album that him and
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  I talked about. Yeah, one of the the bands that
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  Neander Paul loves. Oh yeah, me too.
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  And and had it not been from Mötley Crüe, they would have
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  been huge. I saw them live.
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  Oh no, these guns and roses. Twice.
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  And we actually opened up for a version of their band when they
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  weren't touring as Tesla. They called themselves the Sofa
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  Kings. We were on that hill.
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  OK, cool. Lynyrd Skynyrd.
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  Everybody's got to have Lynyrd Skynyrd.
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  Oh yeah, Golden Platinum is the best one to have if you don't
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  have them all. Yeah, yeah.
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  The only song I don't like on here is is Free Bird.
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  Well, we like it. It's just come on now.
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  Fuck. It's so overplayed man, just I
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  get it already 1. Of the last songs that came on
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  on my drive home, yesterday was Saturday night special and I
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  bought blew my speakers out of my car.
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  Wasn't into that one. Yes, that's a good one. 5150
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  time. Another great riff, 5150 itself.
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  So here's a good story. There's a guy named.
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  I've never pronounced his name right.
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  It's like SIPOICW on Instagram. Sipowicz or something like that.
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  Yeah. He plays that song on his
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  Instagram page. Sammy Hagar comments on it.
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  Put your money where your mouth is.
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  Come play with us at the sphere. That just happened about, I
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  don't know, two weeks ago. And he killed it, dude.
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  Cool. Young kid probably in his 20s
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  but how cool is that a Sammy? Just say put your money where
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  your mouth is. Come game with us.
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  Joe Casey, I mean, you like liked my comment about coming on
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  the show. Let's go, dude.
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  This this is this is the actual mechanical rest calling your
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  bluff. Yeah, this is the the actual
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  debut album. And I think it was Guns and
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  Roses that Neanderthal said had this not come out.
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  The same time for destruction. Appetite came out that that
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  would have been a whole different thing.
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  But the greatest? Not one of the greatest openings
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  to an album ever. Dueling guitar shit going on.
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  Fantastic. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  What was supposed to the first song on that modern come easy
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  go, Yeah or yeah, easy come, easy come easy go then, then,
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  but check it out. Easy come easy go.
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  Coming at your life, getting better, Too late for love right
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  off the gate. Those those first four songs are
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  phenomenal. And little Susie's a kicker for
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  It's supposed to be kind of like a ballad, but it's not really a
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  ballad. Right, but then side 2 is modern
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  day cowboy changes and little Susie so you.
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  Such a great. Fucking a dude.
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  So you have 7 songs on this album that that made the charts
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  at some level. Times making changes.
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  Right. Look at you and you.
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  You just can't forget that melody.
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  Yeah, there was. There's one line that I love.
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  I I think it's coming at you. Live.
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  I can't. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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  It's too late for love. I can't believe this fucking
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  world in which we're living in. Yeah.
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  Still, I do the best that I can see Look.
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  At you in that melody. You just can't forget those
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  great songs. One of the greatest, one of the
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  greatest live performers ever as far as an entertainment value
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  and and just fucking an unsung rock star.
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  No. Yeah.
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  And all around humanitarian. Yeah.
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  Oh yeah. Bob Seger Now a lot of people
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  don't know this, OK? A lot of people don't are going
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  to be like what the fuck is that man?
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  Got to be David Bowie. Planet P Billy Thorpe.
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  Oh. This was his.
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  His. Children of the Son.
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  Yes. No.
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  Was it Billy Thorpe? No.
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  No, I'm sorry. It wasn't Billy Thorpe.
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  It was fuck the the song on here is why me It's badass that you
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  got to look at. If you haven't heard that song,
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  you need to find that song. It's fucking it's I'll see if I
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  can find it on YouTube and just play the opening riff because
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  it's outstanding and the whole the whole beginning of it is why
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  I like it. It's the opening riff of it.
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  Just just the music itself. Tony Carey.
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  I'm sorry, Tony Carey. Tony Carey's a singer.
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  What your did this come out? Hold on.
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  And it had to be in the 80s. It looked for your 80s.
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  I've got a Christian mic so I can.
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  I was convinced it was David Bowie, but I don't.
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  Have one of the one of the one of the one of the why me?
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  He's he references won't be back this way till 2010 so and he
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  passed away not too long ago. It's from Geffen records.
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  I don't have a date. I don't have a date on it.
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  Why me? Why?
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  Me. Oh shit, why me?
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  Planet P. I'm thinking they have a video.
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  Oh, they do have a video. That's right.
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  OK, so let's do that. This is the opening riff of it.
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  Did you hear it? Yep.
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  Wait for the wait for the the the groove to come.
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  I remember. That that's pretty fucking legit
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  in the headphones, man. Pretty fucking legit in the
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  headphones, dude. So that's planet PY me Tony and
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  he also Tony Carey also did it was a really cool song.
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  First day of summer. You'll you'll probably recognize
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  it when I when I put it in. I like I know it just by the.
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  Title and it's and it's a fine, fine day it's.
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  Fine, fine. Oh.
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  Yeah, you know that song for sure.
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  So this is this is Tony Carey. Come on.
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  Oh, damn it, Jim. Wrong button.
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  Oh, I'm missing the intro business in the beginning.
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  Damn it. It's.
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  Yeah. Of course this is a cheesy ass
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  video because it's the 80s. That's a great.
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  Beat though. Yeah, yeah, he's fucking stupid
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  video and he also has what was the other one?
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  Tony Carey well, you know, that's one thing to blame for
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  Billy Squires demise was. Rock me tonight.
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  Rock Me Tonight video for. Sure.
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  Yep. Yep, Yep.
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  And by demise, I mean he's still cashing all those checks every
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  week on his way to the bank. Yeah, so this is a This is a
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  Cool Story song from Tony Carey. It's a fine, fine day.
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  This is Uncle Sunny Sunny Lombardini, you know, mobster
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  type shit. But so this is the lead singer
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  for Planet P. OK, that song's actually in my
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  playlist somewhere, yeah. I just thought the video was
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  cool because he's sitting there. He's sitting there kind of
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  singing, talking to the to the guy at the desk, you know, kind
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  of telling a story. That is cool.
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  Yeah, it's better than the cheesy 80s.
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  Video by. Right slide right.
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  I love this voice. She had a cool voice, man.
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  It's. Got that little quiet rasp, you
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  know. Yeah.
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  So there's that intangible that you can't teach someone.
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  Yeah. See just just a fine right
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  there, right there little. Yeah.
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  That little rasp, man, that little rasp was cool.
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  You have the same intangible quality.
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  Oh, thank you, Mike. So that's Tony Carey.
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  So here's another one I pulled out of the thing.
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  Well. 1st I ever bought with my own money and.
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  And and talk about breaking on in the scene.
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  I did a movie that never never left the the the tin can.
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  What? The fuck was it called?
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  I played this really wicked, like just sadistic dude that
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  there's a scene in it where there's a dungeon and I'm I'm
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  I'm in up in the room and from the back you can you can see I'm
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  I'm pleasuring myself and dropping it into a tube.
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  OK. And then the tube goes down to
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  the dungeon and the women are there feeding off the tube.
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  But the opening song he was using was too late for love I'm
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  walking. This is how old this movie was,
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  OK? I'm walking through Sky Harbor,
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  no permits. I have, I have a movie set, 9mm
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  in my hand, OK, Like in my hand, walking through, walking through
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  one of the terminals, just with the gun in my hand.
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  And he's, he's the cameraman's going backwards, 'cause I'm
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  walking and they're coming up from the feet, you know, all the
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  way up. And they zoom in on the eyes,
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  you know, fucking Sky. HARBOR, Man.
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  That's crazy. Did anybody say anything?
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  No, because it's just it was, it was, you know, middle of the
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  day, man. I don't remember if anybody was
• 20:39
  fucking in there. It was just one of those things,
• 20:41
  dude, just fucking crazy. The deep cut off that pyromania
• 20:46
  album that I liked, that very few people ever mentioned is
• 20:49
  Billy's got his gun. I love that song.
• 20:53
  Yeah, there's the longest ending in the history of the world.
• 20:56
  That's the first White Snake incarnation.
• 20:59
  Yep. That's what.
• 21:00
  For your loving John Sykes man, he's one of the baddest guitar
• 21:04
  players to ever pick up the guitar.
• 21:06
  So Speaking of guitars, some people in my office theater,
• 21:09
  people in the office theater today we're talking about
• 21:12
  there's a documentary for Red Hot Chili Peppers on Netflix,
• 21:14
  which I didn't know. Yeah, I got, I haven't watched
• 21:16
  that one yet, all McCartney one on Amazon Prime.
• 21:20
  I cannot recommend enough, man. On the run.
• 21:21
  It's an hour and 55 minutes. That feels like about 25.
• 21:26
  OK. So that one the the the Peppers,
• 21:32
  it wasn't an argument. It was it was just a discussion
• 21:34
  there. Like swear, John Forsyth's the
• 21:35
  best, the best guitar for Shanti has the best guitar player
• 21:39
  around right now. And I'm like, really, I'm like
• 21:44
  better than just Prince came to mind.
• 21:45
  I'm like better than Prince. Well, Prince is dead.
• 21:47
  So yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't think I agree with that
• 21:51
  because I just don't think. He is a bad musician, man, He.
• 21:54
  Is, but I don't think he's the best.
• 21:57
  He's up there. Yeah.
• 22:00
  Just not be not for his technical playing ability, for
• 22:03
  his ability to put such complex chord structure together.
• 22:07
  Gotcha. OK.
• 22:10
  That's the that's the hard part about when you start getting
• 22:12
  into who's the best. It's like the best at what?
• 22:15
  Yeah. Is he the There's people when
• 22:18
  you say Malcolm Young is one of the greatest guitar players
• 22:21
  ever, they'll go. No, he's not.
• 22:25
  And then there's an argument, right?
• 22:26
  Because right, technically was he the greatest?
• 22:29
  No. He used like 5 chords in his
• 22:30
  whole career. But yeah, he sold over what, 150
• 22:34
  million records using those five chords.
• 22:37
  So yeah, right. Right.
• 22:38
  We have, we have to define what's the best.
• 22:40
  I know where you're coming from and from your mindset.
• 22:44
  No, you know, technically, maybe not.
• 22:47
  Oh Jesus. Now talk now talk about
• 22:50
  technical ability Rushes 2112 for those of you who are just
• 22:54
  listening. One of the greatest albums ever
• 22:57
  recorded. Right.
• 23:01
  I just read a funny story with Getty Lee, He said now that
• 23:05
  they're going out on this tour and he hasn't been playing those
• 23:07
  songs in a long time. So I didn't realize how hard
• 23:10
  those songs were to play when we were in the middle of all of it.
• 23:13
  Because you're doing it all the time.
• 23:14
  But yeah, when you've been away from it for a while and you have
• 23:17
  to relearn it. Yep.
• 23:19
  To hear that from Getty Lee, it makes you feel better as a
• 23:21
  player, right? Because we all have those same
• 23:23
  problems. Yeah, so when Alter Bridge came
• 23:26
  to Arizona, the first time I saw them, this was the album that
• 23:28
  they were touring, which 21 songs.
• 23:32
  Wanted to be able to play there. And and you didn't realize that
• 23:36
  these 'cause I was like, wow, this has been a long show cause.
• 23:39
  For those of you who are listening, he's holding up the
• 23:41
  Live at the Royal Albert Hall album.
• 23:43
  You have to be invited to play there.
• 23:45
  You just, you know, that's a honor.
• 23:47
  Yeah. It's not just another gig, even
• 23:49
  for a band that size. Right.
• 23:51
  And it's alter bridges with the Parallax Parallax Orchestra.
• 23:55
  But kid you not, most bands play 13 to 15 songs.
• 23:58
  They they play 21 songs. And legit, I just it blew my
• 24:01
  mind like we're still here. We're still I'm like, they got
• 24:04
  to be done. They got to be done sooner or
• 24:05
  later. They played because nobody knew
• 24:08
  this was the end product. So what we heard in Phoenix,
• 24:11
  which I think was a second or third date, they end up touring
• 24:14
  for over a year and a half and then finishing in in in in
• 24:19
  England. And he fucking nailed everything
• 24:22
  Miles did nailed. There's there's in the where is
• 24:27
  it waters rising. They never play that live.
• 24:30
  There's a sequence in there where miles like, you know, I
• 24:33
  can hold, I can hold a note for pretty long.
• 24:35
  Yes you can. This dude puts everybody to
• 24:37
  shame. Not only does it hold a note, he
• 24:39
  keeps going higher and higher with it to where you think he's
• 24:42
  just there. No.
• 24:44
  Pushes at once. It's just, it's and it's this is
• 24:47
  unopened by the way kids never opened.
• 24:51
  Just. Unbelievable.
• 24:55
  This is this is The funny thing about Mike and I.
• 24:57
  So when we were pre show, he's like, dude, I'm going to ask
• 24:59
  you, I'm going to name a band, you're going to tell me what
• 25:01
  your favorite song is. I'm like, did you have no idea
• 25:03
  what I had planned for today? I didn't either.
• 25:07
  Another reason I wanted to play guitar.
• 25:09
  Right, right, that that literally was the first heavy
• 25:13
  metal album to ever reach #1 at the time.
• 25:17
  Yep, that's true story 1983, right?
• 25:19
  Yep, Yep, on all charts. Amazing.
• 25:23
  I remember walking around town with a boom box jam and mental
• 25:26
  health. Oh.
• 25:27
  Fuck yeah, dude. That was, that was I was I, I, I
• 25:29
  did something. I was doing something for school
• 25:31
  or something and I want it. So I got to pick what record I
• 25:34
  wanted or cassette. I wanted Mental health.
• 25:36
  Quite right. My brother was like fucking dumb
• 25:38
  ass. That's a question I've always
• 25:40
  had. If Randy Rhodes had stayed in
• 25:42
  Quiet Riot, would they have attained the success that they
• 25:45
  had because he after he, not because he left, but after he.
• 25:48
  Left. I don't.
• 25:48
  I don't, I don't. Think so I I know I think they
• 25:51
  still because I think it was more Kevin Dubrow was this, it
• 25:53
  was this. It was a voice.
• 25:54
  I think more than than any imagery because the mental
• 25:57
  health, the mental health video with the with the metal and
• 26:00
  shit. I just saw it about a week ago
• 26:02
  on, yeah, that Metal Mayhem show on MTV.
• 26:05
  Yeah, it was fantastic video for its time.
• 26:08
  Yep, it was. And that's what you'd had to do
• 26:10
  to make it in the world back then.
• 26:12
  MTV, you had to be on MTV. You had to have a catchy video
• 26:14
  that that sparked interest and was played and requested all the
• 26:17
  time. It's just weird how Kevin Dubrow
• 26:19
  needed more simplistic music in his life and Ozzy needed more
• 26:23
  complex and it all worked out for everybody, you know?
• 26:26
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ozzy needed Randy.
• 26:29
  He I don't, I don't, I don't know if Ozzy's solo, initial
• 26:32
  solo would have done what I did without Randy.
• 26:34
  No, that would say that Sparky needed.
• 26:36
  Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah, 'cause Ozzy's Ozzy,
• 26:38
  you know, You all know we love Ozzy, but I just, I just think
• 26:42
  that without that element, you know?
• 26:46
  I went and saw that tour. Yeah, I still wanted the album.
• 26:50
  They made a lot of shit man, but they they do great songs.
• 26:52
  They did write great songs for sure, absolutely.
• 26:55
  But to Neanderwall's point, you have people like Mötley Crüe.
• 26:58
  Nobody knows why, they're huge, and Poison's much better than
• 27:02
  Mötley Crüe. So this is a record store find
• 27:06
  which you can tell because of the drawings on it.
• 27:10
  Oh yeah. Born around the drawings.
• 27:15
  So if you've never watched anything about the E Street
• 27:18
  Band, there's documentaries, go watch that because Bruce
• 27:21
  Springsteen wouldn't be anything without Steven Van Zant.
• 27:26
  He'd be nothing. 100% absolutely nothing.
• 27:29
  I don't care what you say, go watch the documentary and you'll
• 27:31
  realize. It very rarely is there not a
• 27:34
  songwriting duo. You know, Yep, there's cheap
• 27:37
  trick again tonight, heaven tonight.
• 27:39
  Oh yeah, well, and and just just the E Street band, the whole the
• 27:42
  whole I got to fix this, my OCD the whole the whole background
• 27:48
  like like everybody found. Yes, his image, right?
• 27:52
  He was the image and the sound backed up what he was
• 27:55
  portraying. It was.
• 27:56
  It was an act on all their parts, but it worked.
• 27:59
  Right. And the other thing too, that
• 28:01
  the foundation of that sound in the image came from Jersey
• 28:04
  Shore, the Atlantic City stuff. So none of none of Bruce
• 28:07
  Stringstein wouldn't be who he is without all that.
• 28:10
  They they, they pulled him up on stage.
• 28:12
  Bruce was just a rhythm guitar player basically.
• 28:14
  He wasn't the forefront of anything.
• 28:16
  You just was there jamming with him.
• 28:17
  But then it goes back to like The Beatles playing 12 hour
• 28:20
  shows and locking yourselves in a room and doing nothing.
• 28:23
  I've heard Bruce say in interviews, I just wanted to be
• 28:26
  in the band. I yeah, you could never predict
• 28:28
  this was going to happen. Or, you know, a liar, you know.
• 28:31
  Right. Yep.
• 28:32
  But so many people just, you know, they just gravitate to
• 28:36
  born in the USA and think that's that's the thing.
• 28:38
  And and that's a protest song, boys and girls.
• 28:40
  In case you didn't know, we open for these motherfuckers.
• 28:45
  Yes, we did. Can't.
• 28:47
  See, don't remember any of these guys.
• 28:50
  I didn't. I wasn't drunk or stoned at the
• 28:51
  time. I think maybe one of the
• 28:53
  original members might have. Been there.
• 28:55
  At the time too, you know, but still rain on Scarecrow.
• 29:00
  Oh, fantastic album. So that that touched me because
• 29:03
  my entire family up to me and my parents were farmers.
• 29:09
  So that was that was pretty, you know?
• 29:14
  So this is this. Holy shit.
• 29:15
  That is right. That's Michael Schenker.
• 29:19
  Oh, yeah, yeah. Before he left.
• 29:22
  Yep. And that's a that's a crazy
• 29:24
  story because they were so worried that he was going to
• 29:28
  freak out over the songwriting or whatever, and he wanted out
• 29:31
  so bad he basically signed a contract that said it's all
• 29:34
  yours, I will never bother you again.
• 29:36
  He just didn't want to be pigeonholed into playing that
• 29:39
  same kind of music forever. So some of the titles of the
• 29:43
  songs here, the first one, he's a woman, she's a man.
• 29:47
  They were ready for the future. They were.
• 29:49
  Ready for the Future Man, Shamrock Fever, Dark Lady,
• 29:53
  Speedies Coming, Robot Man, Catch Your Train, and On the
• 29:56
  back advertisements for three other albums.
• 30:01
  That's how people did it back then about.
• 30:02
  Every nine months an album came out.
• 30:04
  Yep, arguably argue. Arguably one of the best Billy
• 30:08
  Joel albums ever. The Stranger.
• 30:10
  Oh, couldn't agree. More arguably.
• 30:13
  One of the. Best Supertramp albums ever.
• 30:17
  Billy Joel's Yeah, I agree. Billy Joel's funny for me
• 30:20
  because I always think that I don't like Billy Joel till one
• 30:22
  of his songs comes on and then I like, Oh yeah, I love Billy
• 30:25
  Joel. Yeah, same way, same way, dude.
• 30:27
  It's the weirdest thing. This this was.
• 30:32
  An album that that changed. My it was when I.
• 30:38
  Started drawing pictures of bands.
• 30:41
  Oh, escape. Yep, and it.
• 30:44
  Wasn't necessarily don't stop believe like believe it or not,
• 30:46
  I'm the guy that likes I like Stone.
• 30:49
  In love I. Liked Escape, Lay it Down,
• 30:52
  Mother Mother father. I like the heavy riffs, like I
• 30:55
  dumped the ballads a little bit, but I really like the heavier
• 30:58
  stuff that Journey did and they just don't get enough credit for
• 31:01
  that. Which blows my mind man, because
• 31:02
  any time is my favorite. Song by Journey.
• 31:04
  Yeah, they wrote some. Really good, heavy stuff, man.
• 31:08
  And who is that Greg? Greg Rossi, Yeah, he's.
• 31:11
  The singer on that song? Yeah.
• 31:14
  Another journey. Oh yeah.
• 31:18
  And then just, you know, boys and girls.
• 31:19
  We don't realize that Neil Shawn started playing guitar with
• 31:21
  Santana when he was 17, and I think he joined Journey when he
• 31:24
  was 19. Yeah, and the one.
• 31:26
  That I think. Yeah, the one that I think
• 31:29
  really, really, really put Journey on the map.
• 31:34
  Oh, frontiers for sure. Yeah, yeah.
• 31:37
  Yeah, I remember the video for I.
• 31:38
  Remember the video for track listing for that?
• 31:41
  Other than faithfully. Fuck, where is it?
• 31:45
  It's so there it is. Up on top separate ways wasn't a
• 31:49
  big fan of that one. Syndrome.
• 31:50
  I loved Separate ways from what I've learned about them was all
• 31:53
  They were all going through divorce at the time, like all of
• 31:55
  them. Syndrome I.
• 31:57
  Love chain. Reaction after the fall
• 31:59
  faithfully, but then you go to the side to Edge of the Blade.
• 32:02
  Fucking great song. Troubled child, great song.
• 32:05
  Frontiers Grape song. Rubicon, great song.
• 32:07
  I didn't really like Back Talk too much.
• 32:10
  I love Faithfully. That was when I really started
• 32:12
  like love at first. Sting, Still Loving You and
• 32:17
  Faithfully were the first 2-2 ballad songs that I like.
• 32:20
  Oh shit, I like Syndrome. I love a little bit more than
• 32:22
  than Faithfully just because I like the story behind it.
• 32:25
  You know, I'm on the road. It's more of a songwriter song.
• 32:28
  For sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 32:30
  Here's one that came on yesterday, right?
• 32:32
  Before I got to the casino that I just again about blew my
• 32:35
  speakers out. Marvin Gaye's Trouble man.
• 32:39
  Oh. Holy shit does he show his
• 32:42
  voice? Off in that song, yeah.
• 32:44
  It's just such a great voice, dude.
• 32:46
  Well, this is just such a cool. Laid back groove that's played
• 32:49
  in halftime and he sings like almost double time throughout
• 32:53
  the whole song when he gets to the verse.
• 32:55
  Just carrying out those notes, man.
• 32:59
  Fantastic. Yeah, yeah.
• 33:02
  Another, another this. This took Def Leppard to a whole
• 33:04
  new level like you thought Pyromania took them somewhere
• 33:07
  they had to sell 4 million. Copies of that album to break
• 33:10
  even, right? Imagine that you got to go 4.
• 33:14
  Times platinum just to get even. That's how expensive that album
• 33:18
  was to make, right? So here's another.
• 33:21
  This is it. This isn't an album but it's ACD
• 33:23
  set but it's. Live with the O.
• 33:27
  Two yeah again ultra bridge don't feel too sorry for them if
• 33:31
  they're. Selling out the O2?
• 33:33
  No. And they?
• 33:34
  And they did, man, they just and the cool thing this has in the
• 33:36
  booklet, it has the lyrics and everything you know, with, with,
• 33:41
  with photos and stuff. It's nice.
• 33:42
  They do really nice shit, man. Like I got some really nice
• 33:46
  ultra bridge merch that you think like one of them.
• 33:49
  I'm named on the back of it. They only did like, I want to
• 33:52
  say 500 of them, and my name's on the back.
• 33:55
  Oh, that's awesome. So here's the one that's.
• 33:58
  Opened of course, for some reason.
• 34:02
  For. Some reason I had two.
• 34:04
  I don't know why, but for some reason I had two.
• 34:09
  But yeah, it's, it's, you know, fucking ultra bridge, man.
• 34:14
  I keep. I keep.
• 34:15
  Trying to get miles. Kennedy on the show, you know.
• 34:18
  Another one that that. That would be awesome.
• 34:21
  Another one that I lost that I wish I had was my original
• 34:25
  Zeppelin box set because they never reissued that and I don't
• 34:29
  think they're ever going to. The one that came out in the
• 34:31
  90s, Yeah. Yep, we just talked about this
• 34:36
  person. Billy Squire.
• 34:39
  Yep. One of my.
• 34:41
  Favorite guitar songwriters? Ever dude right you want?
• 34:44
  To learn how to lay a. Beat down and put a guitar lick
• 34:47
  around it. Listen to Billy Squire.
• 34:49
  Yeah, he'll teach. You.
• 34:51
  Here's a super. Group Night Ranger, OH.
• 34:56
  Yeah, saw them in concert too, Brad.
• 34:59
  Gillis is a monster guitar player.
• 35:01
  Oh, then look, there's another autographed.
• 35:02
  CD of Ultra bridge. He just so happens to have.
• 35:08
  That's it. That.
• 35:09
  We went through that entire. Crate of albums.
• 35:12
  I only brought one crate in because I didn't.
• 35:13
  Know how long it would take to go through it so there you go
• 35:15
  there's an entire crate I did find this in the same crate
• 35:18
  though it's it's dusty remember Todd McFarlane oh the artist
• 35:23
  there's this spawn version of Jim Morrison that's.
• 35:27
  Awesome dude. And on.
• 35:28
  The back they have Jerry. Garcia, James Hetfield and Angus
• 35:31
  Young's Spawn version I. Didn't know they had such a
• 35:36
  thing. Somebody gave that to me.
• 35:39
  I believe I. Wonder if it's worth any money?
• 35:44
  Probably, unless they made about 100 million.
• 35:52
  Of them, right? Wow, we just hit a wall because
• 36:07
  there's no more. Records to talk about Tony
• 36:08
  Carey's still playing on my on my behind the scenes.
• 36:11
  They're the same song has been looping.
• 36:14
  I bet they're oh, Asia. Remember Asia Falk?
• 36:16
  There's another super group. Asia Super Group for sure man.
• 36:23
  Asia, Asia, Asia, yeah, that's. It my tote's empty.
• 36:27
  Man my my tote albums is empty. I have another one in the garage
• 36:30
  if you want to wait a minute. What was the first record you?
• 36:33
  Bought with your own money. I have, I don't fucking
• 36:37
  remember. Dude, I have no idea.
• 36:39
  See, I totally remember it was pyromania.
• 36:41
  For sure. Yeah, I think.
• 36:43
  This Yeah, Jake gave me this. One year for my I think it was.
• 36:48
  My birthday, it was 30. Seconds To Mars I like. 30
• 36:53
  Seconds To Mars. Yeah, they.
• 36:56
  Ride a lot of good stuff too. Man, there's another band that
• 36:58
  just never took off because for whatever reason they didn't have
• 37:01
  a big hit. Which is weird because.
• 37:03
  They have a. Massive following.
• 37:05
  Like a massive following. Well, in my.
• 37:08
  Opinion. They're the same as Corrosion
• 37:10
  and Conformity. They had a couple minor hits in
• 37:12
  the 90s when the Deliverance album came out, but they can
• 37:16
  play anywhere in the world without a problem.
• 37:19
  So I think you got the best of both worlds.
• 37:20
  You don't have to be mega famous and you're making a decent
• 37:24
  living. Yeah, true.
• 37:33
  My phone's. Being weird have you?
• 37:35
  Is your. Phone being weird lately?
• 37:36
  No, but it goes. It goes.
• 37:38
  Through periods, you probably got towers down around you or
• 37:40
  something. That's what happens here.
• 37:42
  It's just bizarre, like sometimes.
• 37:44
  It, it's acts like it's sending a message and then it doesn't
• 37:46
  send a message. I'm like, why aren't you not
• 37:47
  sending the message? And I look at it, it's like
• 37:49
  thinking about it. Well, there's, it's not that
• 37:51
  hard to send that message, man. It's just a simple little
• 37:53
  message. Like, come on, motherfucker.
• 37:55
  Who do you have for phone service?
• 37:56
  Verizon. I had T-Mobile forever man, but
• 37:59
  then it just made financial sense to switch to Verizon I.
• 38:04
  Got AT&T? And so far they've been the best
• 38:07
  that I I would went from T-Mobile to them.
• 38:09
  Yeah, T. Mobile did not work.
• 38:11
  Inside the factory, so I would have to leave my phone in one
• 38:14
  spot and it wouldn't work so every.
• 38:17
  Time I saw somebody that was. Actually on their phone and it
• 38:19
  was working. I said who do you got for
• 38:21
  service? And the answer was always AT&T.
• 38:23
  So see, and I had AT&T forever. But when I switched because
• 38:31
  T-Mobile had a new program out when I first got into real
• 38:33
  estate, that's how long I've had my phone number had AT.
• 38:36
  And T for the first couple. Years and T-mobile's new.
• 38:39
  Program was was. Like 40. 999 a month for.
• 38:43
  Everything business line, I'm like switching and AT&T was such
• 38:47
  an asshole about letting my number go.
• 38:49
  It took like 3 days. All that was back in those days.
• 38:52
  When yeah, they didn't want to port the phone number to a new
• 38:55
  carrier. Yeah, like 2000 I.
• 38:58
  Want to say 2003 or 4? You've had your phone number so.
• 39:01
  Long that I remember it, and think about how many phone
• 39:04
  numbers you remember it, right? I remember my mom and dad's home
• 39:07
  phone, and I think I remember yours and maybe two others.
• 39:10
  My home phone was 839. 0064 I'm not going to say ours.
• 39:14
  Because she still has it. Oh, wait on.
• 39:17
  I still remember my locker. Combination at School 283828.
• 39:22
  71142. Imagine the guy that has.
• 39:27
  Come up with. Combos.
• 39:28
  What's your job? I do the combinations for Master
• 39:30
  Lock. That's my job.
• 39:31
  Man, that would be a cool job. Yeah, done by a computer.
• 39:35
  Now I'm most certain you think. Making up the.
• 39:40
  Combinations, yeah. Because the computer is going to
• 39:43
  make make sure that there's no duplicates in the sequence and
• 39:47
  oh, that's how we. Track serial numbers.
• 39:49
  Where I work, yeah. Computer can do it in two
• 39:55
  seconds. Mark Winters.
• 39:57
  Might be able to do it in. 2 seconds.
• 39:58
  But you're not going to be able to afford 100 Mark Winters at
• 40:01
  your business to do the counting, no.
• 40:04
  Backwards and inverted. Speaking of which, his album is
• 40:08
  out. Today, ladies and gentlemen, go
• 40:10
  buy it. Stream it.
• 40:11
  Yeah, Jensen. By the Jensen.
• 40:13
  Jensen Buck messaged me earlier today.
• 40:16
  Nice shout out to Jensen. Yeah, he wanted to come on the.
• 40:22
  Show. Let's come on the show again and
• 40:24
  not be sideways. Yeah, this is like what he said
• 40:26
  I was like. Dude, I got time today.
• 40:27
  He's like, fuck, I'm working. And then Don.
• 40:30
  Warnock. Our our good friend, he wanted
• 40:33
  to come back on the show and so I was like, why, you know, I
• 40:35
  didn't schedule something for a day.
• 40:36
  He's like, I'm working. So Don's coming on April 14th.
• 40:40
  Awesome. I got to and I got to get, I got
• 40:42
  to go and check because I, there's a couple people I, I
• 40:44
  gave opportunities for in April before I go back to Jensen and
• 40:48
  say here's your date and time. Yes.
• 40:56
  And just for the record. For the last time, that was a
• 41:00
  glitch in the system which we made Riverside aware of and.
• 41:06
  This is all a process because. It's new for everybody.
• 41:08
  We didn't realize we were such an early adopter of Riverside,
• 41:11
  so no, we did not. They've come.
• 41:13
  A long way and one thing. You cannot do is rotate it if
• 41:16
  your guest moves his phone. And that's what happened.
• 41:19
  And Jensen was made aware of it. And for all the people who were
• 41:21
  naysayers, he approved of that episode being released.
• 41:24
  So we didn't do. Something to be an.
• 41:27
  Asshole to somebody, we. Wouldn't do that I.
• 41:31
  Texted him immediately. Here's the deal dude.
• 41:34
  I will not release it if you don't want me to.
• 41:36
  And he said laugh out loud, I don't care.
• 41:40
  Which I thought. Was what he was going to say,
• 41:42
  which is why I approached him with it in the first place.
• 41:46
  You just know people you know and he.
• 41:48
  Seemed like he kind of goes with the flow like I do.
• 41:50
  I would have said the same thing.
• 41:51
  Sorry man, I'm the one that moved my phone.
• 41:53
  And for the whole episode, we thought that he was in portrait
• 41:56
  mode because that's how we were looking at each other, right?
• 42:00
  Exactly and just for the. Record Riverside.
• 42:03
  Did reach out again at a higher level and say can you explain
• 42:06
  what happened so that we can look into this?
• 42:08
  And I did. I sent him back an e-mail and
• 42:09
  said here's what happened. Cool.
• 42:12
  So they're very. Proactive.
• 42:14
  Which is why we like them. You, you suffer through growing
• 42:17
  pains when their customer service reaches back out, right?
• 42:20
  They've always done that for me. So when I see negative things,
• 42:23
  and I know you do too, I like to try and say that's not been our
• 42:26
  experience. Yeah, I do, because I don't.
• 42:28
  I don't, you know, everybody's learning by doing.
• 42:31
  Here's nothing that's interesting because we always
• 42:33
  have, we always have upload issues, right?
• 42:37
  Right. Without a guest.
• 42:39
  I'm at 99%. You're 80, you're at 97%.
• 42:42
  When I have guests, we have guests.
• 42:44
  I'm always like 30-40. Fifty percent is the weirdest
• 42:47
  thing, man. Well, that is weird.
• 42:51
  Right, I don't know, I. I because you're right, that is
• 42:54
  and that's been. The case here lately for sure,
• 42:56
  yeah. Yeah, like when we had when we
• 42:59
  were talking to what was his name?
• 43:01
  The. Other day I.
• 43:02
  Had I had to I? Died twice it.
• 43:06
  Was it was annoying, you know, so that was another one I
• 43:09
  didn't. Tell you about we waited forever
• 43:11
  for his and his never got past 94% and then I finally had to
• 43:16
  have him log out and log back in and then the upload completed.
• 43:21
  That's so weird, man, but we. Just got in a conversation we.
• 43:24
  Talked for like 15 minutes and I looked down.
• 43:25
  I'm like dude, you're still at 94%.
• 43:27
  I bet you log back out and log back in.
• 43:29
  So then I go to edit it or make not.
• 43:33
  Edit it make. Sure that it processed and his
• 43:35
  track wasn't processed. So once again I had to reach out
• 43:37
  to customer service and they fixed it but.
• 43:41
  It's not perfect when you're trying to.
• 43:43
  Record people who are in all parts of the country, I guess,
• 43:46
  right? Yeah.
• 43:47
  Which you? Know shit happens, yeah?
• 43:51
  It's part of the charm of the show.
• 43:52
  It ain't no big thing. It's live, warts and all.
• 43:56
  Live. It's not memorex.
• 43:59
  So if you want to be on the show, just go.
• 44:01
  To Chris and mikeshow.com and scroll to the top and click
• 44:04
  register as a guest and Mike gets that e-mail.
• 44:06
  He forwards it to me, then we get you dialed in.
• 44:12
  So a guy named. Phillip which you, you, you, you
• 44:18
  messaged me. You forwarded me Phillip's
• 44:20
  message. Phillip Nekov, you know.
• 44:24
  What I'm talking about, yes. Well, we had Chad Valier.
• 44:28
  On he loved the Chad he he loved the Valier show, so he's going
• 44:33
  to he's chiming in to to come on for.
• 44:36
  The 21st at. 5 PMCT What's CT Central time with Deborah
• 44:41
  Masterson for Freedom Quest, a love story.
• 44:44
  I'm going to have to remind him that the 21st is is is.
• 44:48
  It's 4:00 PM, not 5:00 PM. Well, if he's talking central.
• 44:55
  Time, it would be 6:00 PM if it's Tuesday, OK.
• 44:59
  It is Tuesday. If it's a Tuesday.
• 45:02
  We start at 6:00 central time, which is 4 year time.
• 45:05
  Well, that's why I told him. We start Tuesdays, 4:00 PM set
• 45:15
  up time, which is 6:00 PM to your time.
• 45:20
  Confirm you are good. Yeah.
• 45:25
  It's part of the year. I start at 5:00 and.
• 45:26
  Part of the year I start at six, we're in the part of the year I
• 45:29
  start at six, right? So letting him know that.
• 45:45
  There you go, we'll see what he says.
• 45:51
  This says this guy powered his home.
• 45:52
  For eight years with 1000 reclaimed laptop batteries
• 45:55
  arranged as packs recharged by solar panels using an engineered
• 45:59
  fully off grid system for a year.
• 46:03
  You're right. That's what that's.
• 46:04
  What's? Crazy.
• 46:05
  That's a lot of batteries, man. Uh huh.
• 46:09
  So. We're going to get him on the
• 46:11
  show. Nice.
• 46:13
  Yeah. Anything else you want to talk
• 46:14
  about? Because.
• 46:18
  I don't want to be that guy that just sits here.
• 46:19
  Filling space, you know what I mean?
• 46:25
  You know, because, I mean, our shows are good.
• 46:26
  And I don't, I don't want to be that guy.
• 46:27
  That's just like, OK, let's talk about something, Mike, just
• 46:29
  because we are viewers. Well, that's what we're doing.
• 46:31
  We're just talking. OK, OK.
• 46:34
  Yeah, that's true. Relax.
• 46:37
  We don't have to have something to talk.
• 46:39
  About, but this is true. What can't?
• 46:45
  What did you do yesterday? What did I do yesterday?
• 46:49
  What was yesterday, Thursday, so I had a closing so I had to go
• 46:54
  get keys for that. I worked out.
• 46:56
  I went to the I went to Oh, I said I went to the urologist,
• 46:59
  you know, because I do that a couple times a year because you
• 47:02
  have to and I wore my B kind shirt.
• 47:14
  So when? I get in there.
• 47:15
  I always ask when I go to the doctor.
• 47:16
  I was when I because I walked in, it was crowded, like the
• 47:19
  whole thing was crowded. So I.
• 47:22
  I I, you know, walk in and I go to the front desk.
• 47:24
  Really cool 80 receptionist. Not receptionist but.
• 47:28
  You know the. Lady behind the counter takes
• 47:30
  your insurance card? Sign in.
• 47:31
  I don't. I don't know if she's Jamaican
• 47:32
  or what, but she's really just fucking.
• 47:34
  I still call him a receptionist. Too.
• 47:36
  OK, yeah, she's a super cool. Human right?
• 47:38
  We've always had this little banter going back and forth.
• 47:41
  So I sign in and I go sit down in the one chair available and
• 47:44
  she comes back. And.
• 47:47
  Says oh, Nikki comes back and and calls me up and I was.
• 47:59
  Like, hey, how late is he running?
• 48:00
  Because when I see a full office, a full waiting room, I'm
• 48:02
  like, how late is he? Because I'm not going to sit
• 48:04
  around for an hour. I'm like, sorry, time is
• 48:07
  valuable so. She's like half an.
• 48:10
  Hour and she's like oh I love your shirt because I said be
• 48:12
  kind my thanks and I said I'm not going to be very kind if I'm
• 48:16
  just sitting here for an hour so I.
• 48:19
  Hear the I hate rumblings of. Laughter behind me right so I
• 48:22
  turn around and it's literally probably a 15 by 15 waiting
• 48:25
  room. So I turn around and and a
• 48:27
  couple people make comments about my shirt right then and
• 48:29
  somebody comes and gets gets a patient and they're oh, I love
• 48:32
  your shirt. I sit.
• 48:36
  Down another one opens. The door for somebody else
• 48:38
  coming out and oh, I love your shirt.
• 48:41
  So. I'm there 10 minutes before my
• 48:43
  appointment, so about 132, my appointments at 1:30.
• 48:46
  I get called back at 1:32 and and then she's like, oh, look at
• 48:49
  that. Chris is on his way back.
• 48:52
  So I go back the door and blood pressure and stuff, you know,
• 48:55
  like you do. And then and then the two other
• 48:57
  people see the shirt, lobby shirt, lobby shirt.
• 49:00
  I get into the room, doctor comes in, you know, we have our
• 49:04
  2-3 minute conversation because it's just a follow up and he's
• 49:08
  by the way, I love your shirt. This the most comments I've
• 49:11
  gotten on that shirt of all the times I wore.
• 49:15
  You know what that tells me? That at the core, people really
• 49:18
  do just want to be nice. Yeah, yeah.
• 49:22
  And as long as you don't watch the.
• 49:23
  News. You realize that there's way
• 49:26
  more nice people out there than there are Dick heads?
• 49:29
  Agreed The Dick. Heads and assholes are the.
• 49:32
  Minority, but they're so loud that they stand out right.
• 49:36
  I spent the whole. Day at the casino.
• 49:37
  Yesterday with my buddy Joe and we encountered way more nice
• 49:41
  people people than we did not, you know, yeah, I had one grumpy
• 49:45
  asshole that almost ran into me coming out of the bathroom and I
• 49:48
  said excuse me, even though it was clearly, clearly his fucking
• 49:52
  fault. And he just.
• 49:54
  Grumbled at me. Whatever.
• 49:56
  Yeah, because he probably lost, you know, more money than he
• 49:59
  needed to and he was in a bad mood and whatever.
• 50:02
  I just 20 years. Ago I'd have.
• 50:05
  Stood there and been like, you know, you were the fucking
• 50:07
  asshole that ran into me, right? And I'm apologize.
• 50:10
  I would have explained why he was in the wrong, but it's like
• 50:13
  he's never going to understand. No, I've.
• 50:15
  Come to the point just. Now I understand who's standing
• 50:18
  in front of me. I know you're not capable of
• 50:20
  understanding my explanation. You were wrong.
• 50:23
  Yeah, but I'm apologizing. To you.
• 50:26
  Yeah. Yeah, I'm not.
• 50:28
  I'm not I. Don't.
• 50:29
  But that was one person out of. Hundreds.
• 50:31
  That's my point, right? When somebody when somebody
• 50:33
  apologizes. I my reaction is no need to
• 50:36
  apologize. Whatever the situation is, it is
• 50:37
  what it is. You know, it's it's all good.
• 50:39
  You know, shit happens. So here's the flip side of that
• 50:42
  I'm. In the bathroom and they have
• 50:43
  this fancy new because this is a brand new casino it just opened
• 50:46
  not even no, I don't think so I'm in the.
• 50:49
  Bathroom and the. Fucking hand dryer is not
• 50:51
  working and I'm always trying to use the hand dryer as the soap
• 50:54
  anyway so I was proud of myself for finally figuring out how to
• 50:57
  do it the right way. You know my.
• 51:00
  Hand dryer doesn't work. So I start laughing.
• 51:02
  I'm like a fucking corset doesn't work.
• 51:04
  So I go to use the one next to me and there's a guy that was
• 51:06
  going to use that sink and I was like, oh man, I'm so sorry,
• 51:09
  dude. I said I finally figured the
• 51:10
  shit out and mine doesn't work right.
• 51:12
  He just starts laughing. He's like, it's all good, man.
• 51:15
  It's all good. Yeah, that's more.
• 51:17
  What I. Encountered than the guy who was
• 51:19
  grumbling at me. That's my point, Yeah, We had a
• 51:22
  good laugh. About it, it's like.
• 51:24
  Hey, I finally figured out the soaps over here and the fucking
• 51:26
  dryers over here and mine doesn't work.
• 51:28
  Then I try and interrupt you, you know?
• 51:31
  Yeah. And see, I don't necessarily.
• 51:32
  Like the hand the the air dryers, they don't work.
• 51:35
  No, I walked out and my. Hands were wet.
• 51:38
  Every fucking time. So when you go to like a like.
• 51:40
  A like a convenience store gas station type, right?
• 51:44
  You know they always have hot dogs and food for sale, yes,
• 51:48
  right, So I won't. Use the hand.
• 51:49
  Dryers. I'll I'll walk out of the I'll
• 51:51
  shake my hands. I'll walk out of the bathroom,
• 51:52
  beeline for wherever the napkins are, grab 5-6 napkins, dry my
• 51:55
  hand and throw it away. That's genius.
• 51:57
  Yeah. I'm just 'cause I don't like.
• 51:58
  The hair dryers at all? I don't.
• 52:00
  I don't either. They just don't work.
• 52:02
  No at all. So if I walked.
• 52:05
  Out of there, without wet hands, I'd use.
• 52:06
  Them every time. I don't like it either, so I've
• 52:09
  I've always learned. Just.
• 52:12
  Just to use the. The the paper towels or napkins
• 52:15
  or whatever they have. I'm going to start doing that.
• 52:22
  I don't. Know why I never thought of that
• 52:23
  myself? Yeah.
• 52:25
  Man, it's all good. It's crazy.
• 52:27
  Remember when they had that? Old fucking shit where you
• 52:29
  pulled the look like an old man's undershirt.
• 52:32
  Yes, that's fucking terrible. Oh, the diseases that were on
• 52:35
  that thing. Can you imagine?
• 52:38
  No dude, I hate. Those things even.
• 52:41
  As a kid. And then and then and.
• 52:43
  It's supposed to be sanitary because it rolls through the
• 52:45
  cup. Fuck you.
• 52:46
  It doesn't clean. It's all nasty and brown and
• 52:48
  shit, man. It's Some of those things were
• 52:49
  just. Disgusting.
• 52:51
  Yeah, it's fucking terrible, dude.
• 52:53
  I don't oh that. And they say that with the with
• 52:55
  the hand dryers that you put your hands.
• 52:57
  They say they're just as unsanitary.
• 52:59
  I just heard that on Rogan. He said he called it shit dust.
• 53:02
  He's like all he does is blow the shit.
• 53:05
  Dust. Around.
• 53:07
  So and so here's the here's the thing.
• 53:09
  That I've done and I've done this pray way before COVID.
• 53:11
  So whenever I'm in like when it can I go dance and Saturday
• 53:14
  nights, the denim and diamonds. It's it's you know, it's the old
• 53:15
  school bathroom where every urinal is lined up so you can
• 53:18
  look over and wow, God bless you.
• 53:20
  Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, dude, you're going to have a
• 53:23
  hard time getting anybody with that.
• 53:25
  You know what I mean? One of those things, right?
• 53:27
  And then you have the row and then you have all the sinks tied
• 53:29
  together, right? There's like 10 sinks and you
• 53:31
  have like probably 30 urinals and then you have single stall
• 53:37
  Thrones, right? Yep.
• 53:40
  And then it's a typical. West Country Western bar where
• 53:42
  you have the the the shelf above the urinal so you can put your
• 53:45
  beer you know well. When you're washing.
• 53:50
  Your hands, kids. If you turn the.
• 53:54
  Faucet on, you get your hands wet, then you get the soap and
• 53:58
  you wash your hands like I know the faucet.
• 54:00
  Oh, clean, clean, clean. But then if you have to grab the
• 54:02
  paper towel dispenser, go whack A whack A whack A whack A whack
• 54:05
  A to get paper towels out. You just uncleansed your hand.
• 54:09
  So for the OCD people in the world, you whack a whack of the
• 54:13
  the paper towel first. Then you take that paper towel,
• 54:18
  whack A whack again, open up the faucet, put the paper towel
• 54:21
  behind the faucet. I know.
• 54:23
  Wash, get the soap, wash your hands, use that paper towel,
• 54:26
  shut the faucet. Then you already have a paper
• 54:28
  towel. They're ready.
• 54:29
  So you pull the new paper towel off and you whack A whack, A
• 54:31
  whack, A whack, A whack, A whack again to get the right amount of
• 54:34
  paper towels to dry your hands. Then your hands are clean.
• 54:38
  I'm laughing with you and here's why I know.
• 54:40
  I've had MERSA 4 times and I'd learned to do shit like that
• 54:43
  because people are disgusting. Yeah, so when I used to be on.
• 54:47
  The When I used to do the homeless stuff, you know, feed
• 54:49
  homeless four or five times a month, there was 1.
• 54:54
  Of the things that you had to take.
• 54:55
  The food handlers class, you had to be mindful like doing that,
• 54:57
  just scratch and tip my nose. No boys and girls wasn't picked
• 54:59
  right there. I would have just see I'd have
• 55:01
  to go wash my hands again. So I learned that from from
• 55:05
  doing that, that it's just you got to you just don't.
• 55:08
  You don't. And that's a good habit to get
• 55:09
  out of. When you're in public too, is
• 55:11
  you just said it touching your face because that's where I got
• 55:13
  it the first time was like right here on my jaw.
• 55:16
  Yeah. Blew up like a.
• 55:19
  Golf ball. You know what?
• 55:21
  I saw this thing, the other. Day, I think it was Instagram
• 55:24
  about Japan so we know this from Jake when Jake.
• 55:27
  Was in Japan two years. Says the cleanest city he's ever
• 55:29
  been in. I remember him saying that on
• 55:31
  the 1st. Time he was on the podcast, so
• 55:33
  check this out. You are not allowed to eat while
• 55:36
  standing up in Japan. If you're on a train.
• 55:40
  On a train, you're not allowed. You're not allowed to speak.
• 55:42
  You have to respect the silence. You're not allowed to talk on
• 55:46
  your phone in public because you're not supposed to let
• 55:49
  everybody else hear your conversation.
• 55:50
  Case in point, yesterday when I was a grocery store, some
• 55:53
  dumbass is walking through one of the aisles.
• 55:55
  He's got a phone like this on speaker.
• 55:58
  It's not my job to be your PR representative.
• 56:01
  Meanwhile, he's wearing clothes that he probably just rolled out
• 56:03
  of bed and that he's been wearing for a week.
• 56:05
  Completely dishevelled hair, and he's probably some IT guy
• 56:08
  talking. It's not my job to be your PR
• 56:10
  representative. It's not my problem that you Bob
• 56:12
  Bob the whole fucking store and then here this guy first on the
• 56:16
  other. End going aren't yeah, it's like
• 56:19
  dude, it's like. Nobody wants to hear your
• 56:21
  conversation. So in Japan, legit you cannot
• 56:23
  have a a conversation in public on your phone.
• 56:26
  I like that you have you have to.
• 56:27
  Respect the silence. On the train, you can't eat
• 56:29
  while standing. You have to sit down and eat.
• 56:32
  No shoes allowed in in businesses or homes, which I've
• 56:35
  always known that most people do know that about about that stop
• 56:38
  right there. That's where.
• 56:39
  Most of the germs come in your home.
• 56:40
  I have the same rule here. Yeah.
• 56:43
  On the bottom of your shoes. You're out in public.
• 56:46
  Public right? There's no, there's no, there's
• 56:50
  no litter allowed and there's no garbage allowed.
• 56:52
  So there's no receptacles in public.
• 56:54
  You cannot jaywalk like you're not allowed to jaywalk at all
• 56:58
  anywhere. That's a matter if it's a fence,
• 57:00
  right? Right.
• 57:01
  No matter if it's a surface. Street, neighborhood street or
• 57:04
  you know, a a busy St. you are not allowed to jaywalk.
• 57:06
  But the crazy thing to me is those.
• 57:08
  People have that so ingrained in their culture, they wouldn't
• 57:10
  think of doing it anyway, you know, like we would think of
• 57:14
  doing it. Fuck you.
• 57:14
  Don't tell me what to do. I'm going to cross right here.
• 57:17
  That wouldn't even enter their mind.
• 57:18
  That's fascinating to me, Yeah. That proves that your DNA.
• 57:23
  Carries so much of your, You know, that's why we still have
• 57:26
  these crazy puritan values in our DNA.
• 57:29
  It's irrational, but they're there.
• 57:31
  Yeah. We're not really those people.
• 57:33
  We haven't. Been those people for a long
• 57:35
  time. They haven't been those people
• 57:36
  for a long time, but that everything you just.
• 57:40
  Said has. Been carried over for probably
• 57:42
  1000 years. Yeah, it's called respect RE.
• 57:47
  SPECT. Find out what it means to me.
• 57:51
  But think about. Every rule you just.
• 57:53
  Said it's thinking about the other person and I don't know
• 57:56
  how much. It's a rule.
• 57:58
  But it's just, it's just what they're it's I guess it is a
• 58:02
  rule, I guess their culture, yeah.
• 58:06
  And it's their culture for sure, I've seen.
• 58:08
  Videos of those Japanese. Women out there like sweeping
• 58:10
  their storefront sidewalk, you know, there's nothing there.
• 58:13
  I'm like, what are you sweeping? Right there was.
• 58:16
  One little piece of trash, right?
• 58:17
  There, you know. Flakes.
• 58:23
  Flakes. Yeah, We just don't have the
• 58:26
  same respect. For our society.
• 58:30
  We don't. I noticed that.
• 58:31
  Driving down the road yesterday. Which is in disrepair.
• 58:36
  Well, and you notice the drive. Down the road when?
• 58:37
  People flick stuff out of their their vehicles, their windows
• 58:40
  and, you know, you know, litterbugs and shit.
• 58:43
  Like, that's like, come on, man. Like, really?
• 58:45
  Yeah. Still to this day you have.
• 58:47
  People who don't realize they live in the middle of the desert
• 58:49
  and they're flicking their cigarettes out the window.
• 58:51
  Oh yeah, the other two days. Ago driving some one of those
• 58:54
  stupid little Chevy PT Cruisers. I think they were.
• 58:58
  You know, the guy's got his window down and legit.
• 59:02
  You're in the desert, cigarette butt.
• 59:04
  Things burn. Granted, it was on the.
• 59:05
  Freeway, but it's still. It's like dude.
• 59:08
  Is it? Is it?
• 59:09
  Are you really? Are you really so like?
• 59:13
  I mean, number one, you're smoking in your car.
• 59:17
  You. Know I was guilty.
• 59:19
  For a long time myself, yeah. And then?
• 59:21
  And then you flip the. Cigarette out of your car.
• 59:23
  And you know, I never learned. I never.
• 59:26
  Understood what? The chains were like, you know,
• 59:28
  you're not allowed to have not no dragon chains.
• 59:30
  They don't. They don't wish you having
• 59:31
  chains. That's because it.
• 59:34
  Sparks. It sparks.
• 59:36
  It sparks, Oh yeah, Arizona. And then they can leave the
• 59:38
  fires. I never do that.
• 59:39
  I saw, I saw something. I was like, what the fuck does
• 59:41
  that mean? And then I learned, oh, that's
• 59:43
  what that means. I used to see that back in the
• 59:45
  90s. With a lot must have been the
• 59:47
  car haulers, not the semi car haulers, but the guys who would
• 59:50
  buy the big, huge pickup trucks and they would put a fifth wheel
• 59:54
  on it, you know? Yeah, they would have those
• 59:56
  chains dragging on the freeway and you'd see the sparks coming
• 59:59
  out behind them. Yeah.
• 1:00:01
  Like that can't be safe. No, it can't be.
• 1:00:03
  I don't. I don't, yeah.
• 1:00:05
  I don't know how that would be safe.
• 1:00:06
  We live in the middle of an inferno.
• 1:00:07
  And you're making more fire, Yeah.
• 1:00:10
  Which is crazy, right? What'd you do yesterday?
• 1:00:14
  I went to the casino. Did you not work?
• 1:00:17
  I worked for four hours. Oh, got you, we.
• 1:00:20
  We have a time. Limit on our personal time and
• 1:00:22
  that time limit is up next week, so she got to take it.
• 1:00:26
  You either take it or you get paid.
• 1:00:27
  Out for it. And if they're going to pay me
• 1:00:29
  to not be there, guess who's not going to be there?
• 1:00:31
  That's right, yeah. So my buddy Joe and I went to
• 1:00:34
  the. Casino.
• 1:00:35
  And the first thing that I said when I walked through the door
• 1:00:38
  was I know we're in the same boat, buddy, but I'm always
• 1:00:41
  fascinated when you walk through the door at 11:00 in the
• 1:00:44
  morning. All the people who have nothing
• 1:00:45
  better to do than sit here and play games at the casino, right?
• 1:00:49
  Right. Now they could all be like me.
• 1:00:51
  You. Know a lot of more senior
• 1:00:52
  citizens I get it you know you're retired you served your
• 1:00:55
  time, but the people that are our age, I guess, you know they
• 1:00:58
  work different shifts or whatever there's always an
• 1:01:00
  explanation but it's just fascinating that many people
• 1:01:03
  have nothing better to do at lunchtime on a Thursday then go
• 1:01:06
  gamble well and and then. And see, I'm a big believer and
• 1:01:09
  I don't like the most I've ever gambled at all was this year in
• 1:01:13
  in football I played. I played the.
• 1:01:17
  Super Bowl squares for Rotary Mesa Rotary Club that I'm in and
• 1:01:20
  I won one of the quarters. So the $200 I invested in to the
• 1:01:24
  to the whatever app we use to gamble.
• 1:01:27
  I made it all back. So I'm actually up $6 for the
• 1:01:30
  year. Nice.
• 1:01:31
  So. Here's what I do.
• 1:01:33
  Yeah, I had a problem because, you know, I have an addictive
• 1:01:36
  personality. And it took until that I just
• 1:01:39
  told Joe that story yesterday. That was the addiction that I
• 1:01:42
  finally went you dumb motherfucker.
• 1:01:44
  Things that you really like that are bad for you for some reason
• 1:01:48
  you're you gravitate towards. So stop and my story.
• 1:01:51
  To him was. I walked up to the craps table.
• 1:01:55
  It was probably 11:00 in the morning on a Thursday because I
• 1:01:58
  used to work Friday, Saturday, Sunday, 12 hours a day.
• 1:02:00
  That was my shift, right? So.
• 1:02:02
  The rest of the week I had. Off and I would go to the casino
• 1:02:05
  and play craps one day I got there and in an.
• 1:02:10
  Hour and a half I won $6000. Nice.
• 1:02:16
  Now. I didn't really.
• 1:02:18
  Know what I was doing? The guy at the end of the table
• 1:02:20
  probably won close to $100,000. Oh fuck the guy.
• 1:02:24
  Next to him, probably. Won 25 to $30,000 because I
• 1:02:28
  rolled for almost an hour. Wow.
• 1:02:31
  And I didn't know. What I was doing betting wise,
• 1:02:34
  so I just kept trying to follow what they were doing, but with
• 1:02:37
  not nearly as much money, right? At the end of that session.
• 1:02:41
  The guy at the end of the table gave me $500 tip and his buddy
• 1:02:44
  gave me a $250 tip. That's how I know they want a
• 1:02:47
  fuck ton of money. Right on three.
• 1:02:50
  Months later, that money was. Gone.
• 1:02:52
  Oh yeah, Because that's how the casino works, right?
• 1:02:54
  Right. That was my tip.
• 1:02:56
  To. Say here's what I'm going to do.
• 1:02:58
  The very next April, when I got my tax return, I stuck that in
• 1:03:02
  an envelope. And if I lose that, I can't
• 1:03:05
  gamble anymore, right? You got to set.
• 1:03:07
  You got to set limits for yourself.
• 1:03:08
  Yeah. So when?
• 1:03:09
  People find out I gamble. Automatically they think that's
• 1:03:13
  a negative thing First off sports betting actually makes me
• 1:03:16
  money that's OK Profit Center for me so sometimes I take that
• 1:03:21
  profit from sports betting and I put it in that envelope if I
• 1:03:24
  need right. That's my other source of income
• 1:03:26
  for gambling yeah. Because otherwise you have to
• 1:03:30
  have your mindset. I know where you were going.
• 1:03:32
  Most people are like, I don't want to lose my money.
• 1:03:35
  It just seems irrational. Well, I yeah, I.
• 1:03:37
  Just work too hard. For it and because of what I do
• 1:03:39
  for a living, there's there's no guarantee I I don't get paid
• 1:03:42
  every every week or every two weeks like normal human beings
• 1:03:44
  do. I can go six months not going to
• 1:03:46
  paycheck because I'm completely 100 pin dependent on the market.
• 1:03:49
  Doesn't matter how hard I work, doesn't matter how much
• 1:03:52
  marketing I do, how much advertising do, how much
• 1:03:54
  grinding I do. It does, for lack of a better
• 1:03:56
  term, you're Chris Dunham Enterprises.
• 1:03:58
  Right. Not getting a paycheck from
• 1:03:59
  anybody else, No. And.
• 1:04:01
  It's legit. It's all dependent on the
• 1:04:03
  market, like it's and I have to get, I have to fucking overcome
• 1:04:07
  people's rationalizations of, you know, this market, this,
• 1:04:11
  this market's that. I'm like, well, it's really not
• 1:04:13
  like it's just not like you can't have a real estate market
• 1:04:16
  without buyers buying and sellers selling and you need a
• 1:04:18
  buyer just to buy the house that sellers selling.
• 1:04:21
  I was like so well, here's the same.
• 1:04:23
  You know, in Illinois, I just heard it on the news.
• 1:04:26
  They were crying yesterday about there's a shortage in inventory
• 1:04:31
  in homes. But if you listen to what they
• 1:04:34
  have been saying up until that new story, you would think that
• 1:04:38
  nobody could sell their home right now, right?
• 1:04:41
  You can't have it both ways. We've had this conversation
• 1:04:43
  before, but I literally just heard it.
• 1:04:45
  And I thought of you right away when they said that They're
• 1:04:47
  like, yeah, people are just desperate to buy a home.
• 1:04:50
  Well, it's a reelection year for the governor right now.
• 1:04:52
  We're talking about, oh, I'm going to solve that housing
• 1:04:55
  crisis that didn't exist six months ago.
• 1:04:59
  People are stupid. Man, they're easily.
• 1:05:01
  LED, hold on. Let me rewind that.
• 1:05:04
  I got to stop saying that people don't have time to be informed.
• 1:05:07
  It's not that they're stupid. They literally don't have time
• 1:05:10
  in their day to sit there and figure out that everything they
• 1:05:13
  hear is doublespeak. They might have only heard what
• 1:05:15
  I heard yesterday. Yeah, I'm like, Jesus Christ,
• 1:05:18
  for six months you've been telling me that if I wanted to
• 1:05:21
  sell my house, there's no way on hell you're ever going to sell
• 1:05:23
  your house. Right, that's.
• 1:05:25
  Yeah, that's the thing that people don't understand because
• 1:05:28
  we get that all the time. Like all the housing market,
• 1:05:29
  we're flooded with inventory. I did a search yesterday that a
• 1:05:33
  referral called me thinking about selling this house that
• 1:05:35
  has a tenant in it and the tenants locked in until
• 1:05:38
  September. So I was like, OK, right away.
• 1:05:40
  We can't offer FHA or VA buyers because they have time
• 1:05:43
  constraints to be in the house. FHA you buy a house, you got to
• 1:05:45
  be in there with 30 days, VA within 90 days.
• 1:05:49
  This is so we're. Limited to investors.
• 1:05:50
  Only I said, so if it's required 24 hour notice to show, then you
• 1:05:54
  got to have 24 hours notice to show, which means if I want to
• 1:05:56
  show the house today, I can't. I got a schedule for tomorrow.
• 1:05:58
  My buyer might not be available tomorrow.
• 1:06:00
  So there's there's three things that you're up against the wall
• 1:06:02
  right away and understand. This is how I approach.
• 1:06:05
  Everything because I don't want to put a sign in the yard, just
• 1:06:07
  say, yeah, I got a sign in the yard.
• 1:06:09
  So we left the conversation base that we're going to revisit this
• 1:06:11
  in August when we're 30 days out from lease expiring, hit the
• 1:06:14
  ground running, start marketing, start doing our thing.
• 1:06:18
  But when talking to him, we were we.
• 1:06:19
  Were kind of talking about the inventory.
• 1:06:21
  I said, OK, look I'm going to go on to our MLS system and right
• 1:06:24
  away I typed in, you know just active 26,000 active properties
• 1:06:29
  in in all of Maricopa. Now County, which is our two
• 1:06:31
  biggest counties, but also now pulls from some northern cities
• 1:06:35
  like Sedona, Flagstaff, Prescott, Pinetop, Show low all
• 1:06:38
  those kind of things. It also pulls stuff from from
• 1:06:41
  Mexico. Now Rocky Point, it pulls stuff
• 1:06:42
  in the southern the southern border towns like across the
• 1:06:47
  border. So you're picking up all the
• 1:06:48
  stuff. If you just go in and type in
• 1:06:52
  Maricopa and Pinell County, that drops to just under 19 thousand
• 1:06:56
  18,994 as of yesterday, which was March 26th.
• 1:07:00
  OK, his house is in Gilbert. It's a 3 bedroom, 2 bath, 15197
• 1:07:06
  square feet, two car garage. So I took it 3 bed 2 bath active
• 1:07:10
  1600 square feet with two car garage we so we go from 26,000
• 1:07:15
  to just under 19,000 to 312 in Olive Gilbert.
• 1:07:20
  See, that's what I was thinking about was when.
• 1:07:22
  You said that you know you have to define what are you looking
• 1:07:24
  for, right? There might be 400,000 homes for
• 1:07:27
  sale, but there's only 300 that you can choose from, right?
• 1:07:31
  Right at 4:00. 100,000 homes for sale.
• 1:07:32
  We'd be fucked because I know, but that's.
• 1:07:35
  A That was a huge. You know, I know, you know, I
• 1:07:37
  know. That was a huge it.
• 1:07:39
  It when I started this in 992000991999/2000 there was
• 1:07:45
  between 33 and 35,000 Properties for Sale.
• 1:07:50
  That's that's condos, townhouses, Patty homes, single
• 1:07:52
  family homes and manufactured mobile homes on land.
• 1:07:56
  OK, that was. My average. 33,000 to 35,000 and
• 1:08:01
  back then it really was just Maricopa and Pinell County
• 1:08:06
  because the MLS wasn't big as it is now.
• 1:08:07
  It's grown over the years. Yeah, my super be a.
• 1:08:10
  Mass exodus, right? So yeah.
• 1:08:13
  A total mass exodus like when our market crashed, there was
• 1:08:17
  about 50 to 70,000 in the given time right when our market was
• 1:08:22
  was smoking hot before the crash IN2000678, whichever you whoever
• 1:08:26
  you talked to, there was like 2500 houses.
• 1:08:28
  That's where people were lining up to see a house and lines out
• 1:08:31
  through all of which was media induced all of it.
• 1:08:35
  Covad Covic created this, this chaos with the housing market in
• 1:08:39
  Arizona. It was all COVID related.
• 1:08:42
  It was all media related. So now look in our market now
• 1:08:45
  it's all media. It's all media generated.
• 1:08:47
  Oh, the housing market's slow. Oh, the the housing inventory is
• 1:08:51
  guess what, kids when? COVID hit.
• 1:08:54
  Builders stopped building when when, I'm sorry, not when COVID
• 1:08:57
  hit, when we when the market crashed the first time in 2006,
• 1:09:00
  Seven, eight, depending on where your market was and who you
• 1:09:01
  talked to, builders stopped building.
• 1:09:04
  There's about a six month gap where builders stopped building
• 1:09:07
  because of that gap. We're still about a million plus
• 1:09:10
  shortfall when it comes to housing for Americans and a lot
• 1:09:15
  of that COVID. Gap.
• 1:09:16
  I know you're talking about the the crash, but right, there was
• 1:09:20
  a gap during COVID too, but that was all artificial due to not
• 1:09:23
  being able to get supplies, not because people didn't want to
• 1:09:25
  build stuff, right? They were waiting.
• 1:09:28
  We waited, you know, I work for a manufacturer too.
• 1:09:31
  We waited for product that we needed to make our product.
• 1:09:35
  Yeah, supply chain. You know when they kept saying
• 1:09:37
  there were supply chain issues, Yeah, you had a bump in the
• 1:09:41
  market, but look how the market recovered since then.
• 1:09:43
  Yeah, it's. Going to always recover or?
• 1:09:46
  It's going to fail. It's the shit's an illusion.
• 1:09:50
  Yeah, because how much really was it was?
• 1:09:51
  Supply chain. Like really?
• 1:09:52
  Did you really run out of toilet paper or did you just want to
• 1:09:55
  say, hey, let's fuck no, you just said it.
• 1:09:57
  So manufacturing had the same lag that you talked about in the
• 1:10:01
  housing market, right? There was, it wasn't that there
• 1:10:05
  was a supply chain issue, it was that it got disrupted.
• 1:10:09
  So it took a long. It's like trying to stop a
• 1:10:11
  freight train, right? Yeah.
• 1:10:13
  The guy wants to stop before he kills you because you're on the
• 1:10:15
  tracks. There's no way he can do it
• 1:10:18
  right. It takes a.
• 1:10:19
  Mile to stop. That freight train, So once
• 1:10:22
  again, it was an illusion. You had to catch up.
• 1:10:25
  Everybody had to catch up because people stopped not
• 1:10:28
  knowing what to do, so they stopped making steel.
• 1:10:30
  We don't know if we need it now. You got to wait for those
• 1:10:32
  factories to start back up. We got to wait for him to make
• 1:10:35
  the steel to make the product we make.
• 1:10:41
  It's all an illusion, the. Stock market's an illusion.
• 1:10:43
  The housing market's an illusion.
• 1:10:45
  You just said it. A lot of this bullshit is
• 1:10:47
  created by the media because what do people watch?
• 1:10:49
  The news? I mean, constantly.
• 1:10:52
  And if they don't watch? The news they read the.
• 1:10:53
  Headlines. And because they just read a
• 1:10:55
  headline, which is the story. If you don't read the story, I
• 1:11:00
  guarantee you 95% of the time the headline has nothing to do
• 1:11:04
  with the outcome of the story they're writing about.
• 1:11:06
  No, it just wants to keep you. Engaged into that Channel so
• 1:11:09
  that you watch the commercial so they can sell more of them.
• 1:11:12
  It just wants a response. To the headline, I think it has
• 1:11:15
  nothing to do with staying on the channel, it has nothing to
• 1:11:18
  do with reading the story. They just want your knee jerk
• 1:11:20
  reaction to the response. Because the more the more likes
• 1:11:24
  that's necessarily likes, the more reactions and the more
• 1:11:27
  comments on the thread then the more popular that news channel
• 1:11:31
  is. I do it all the time.
• 1:11:32
  When something comes up I'm like I read the article I'm I'll try
• 1:11:35
  and I'm like do better. It's the the the article has
• 1:11:37
  nothing to do with the title. We are literally the living.
• 1:11:40
  Definition. We used to say it and it was
• 1:11:42
  true, but now it's more true than ever.
• 1:11:44
  There is no bad publicity. No, because you're being paid
• 1:11:48
  like you said, for the eyes and time on your content.
• 1:11:55
  Yep, which is. A bad way to.
• 1:11:57
  Run a system because it, it promotes lies, manipulations,
• 1:12:03
  AI. You know, all these things that
• 1:12:05
  people can use for nefarious reasons are going to be
• 1:12:09
  exploited. And obviously, just like the
• 1:12:12
  asshole in the room is always the loudest, the fakest shit is
• 1:12:16
  always the stuff for whatever reason, that the average person
• 1:12:20
  grabs on to. I don't understand it, but
• 1:12:22
  right. I've come to the conclusion they
• 1:12:24
  just don't have the time to educate themselves.
• 1:12:26
  They're raising a family, they're working at a job,
• 1:12:29
  whatever, you know, you don't have time to dig into.
• 1:12:32
  Did the president really say that?
• 1:12:34
  Did that congressman really do that?
• 1:12:36
  Did you know, do you really have the time to look into all that
• 1:12:39
  bullshit? Yep.
• 1:12:41
  I know I don't think they do I. Think it.
• 1:12:43
  I think people are just, they become complacent because it's
• 1:12:46
  headline news. The journalists don't, actually.
• 1:12:50
  Promote and and share true stories anymore it's all
• 1:12:53
  entertainment. When I was in journalism school
• 1:12:57
  we had to do a stopwatch timer of when and this was back in
• 1:13:02
  1980911991 We. Had a we had a stopwatch.
• 1:13:08
  And we and we had to time a 30 minute newscast of actual news.
• 1:13:14
  OK, not sports. Sports was taken out, so you got
• 1:13:17
  cut down to like 22 minutes. 3 minutes I think if I remember.
• 1:13:23
  Correctly was the actual hard factual news that was reported
• 1:13:28
  in in that 30 minute broadcast. Taking out sports because sports
• 1:13:32
  was considered entertainment. Taking out all the commercial
• 1:13:35
  breaks. You have 3 minutes of actual
• 1:13:37
  concrete news that could be fact checked and verified.
• 1:13:41
  And weather took out weather, weather.
• 1:13:43
  And sports were out of the mix, but weather was was an average
• 1:13:45
  of 4 minutes long and sports was an average of 6 minutes long.
• 1:13:49
  Because you know, everybody watches the news back then
• 1:13:52
  because I want to see the sports.
• 1:13:53
  And you couldn't Fast forward. You had to sit through the news
• 1:13:56
  segment to wait for sports. It doesn't count traffic in the
• 1:13:59
  morning. So it wasn't, it was an evening.
• 1:14:00
  It was an evening broad, like a 6:00 news was the assignment we
• 1:14:03
  had to, and it was really it. Was maybe 3 minutes.
• 1:14:06
  Of total actual relevant news that.
• 1:14:11
  Is crazy good. Or bad everything else was.
• 1:14:13
  Banter hey Mike, how you doing today, man?
• 1:14:15
  You know, I just drove in this day from the from the, you know,
• 1:14:17
  from the east side and hey man, there's a wreck on the freeway
• 1:14:19
  and it was crazy. You know, they had all these
• 1:14:21
  tires that came off this truck. It was insane.
• 1:14:23
  Got in all the big plans for the.
• 1:14:24
  Weekend no plans. No plans.
• 1:14:26
  Man, no plans at all. You know, maybe going to go
• 1:14:28
  fishing with my son if he's if he comes, that's great, Chris.
• 1:14:30
  That's. Great, right, Right.
• 1:14:33
  You know. And that is how it goes.
• 1:14:34
  Yeah, it was just banter. Which I mean, you know,
• 1:14:38
  Anchorman kind of kind of, you know, for lack of a better
• 1:14:41
  example, the, the, the fluff in news.
• 1:14:45
  You. Know the way they do that shit
• 1:14:47
  and it was a great representation.
• 1:14:49
  Of it, it's my exaggeration of 400,000 homes for sale, right?
• 1:14:52
  That was an exaggerated version of how the news is.
• 1:14:55
  But there was 98% truth in what they were telling you.
• 1:15:00
  Yeah, yeah. And back then for sure, because.
• 1:15:03
  You had to be the number one. It's it was my same point to
• 1:15:07
  Paul about the radio DJ back in the day, man, They were the
• 1:15:10
  person that you looked up to. Absolutely.
• 1:15:13
  You're Walter Cronkite. You're even your local news guy,
• 1:15:17
  You know, he was the local news guy, but he was the number one
• 1:15:19
  local news guy. Every market has that.
• 1:15:22
  Yeah. Who do you like to?
• 1:15:23
  Listen to well, I always. Go to this guy because more
• 1:15:26
  often than not, it's the filler that keeps you coming back.
• 1:15:29
  Is that the person is that sounds Yeah, the person.
• 1:15:31
  And then they always had. That mystique because you
• 1:15:33
  couldn't get into radio station, the doors, everything was vacuum
• 1:15:36
  sealed, TV stations vacuum sealed.
• 1:15:38
  You you couldn't, you couldn't breach that thing.
• 1:15:40
  That movie airheads with Brendan Fraser and Adam Sandler and
• 1:15:43
  Steve Buscemi where they're trying to get into the right,
• 1:15:45
  where they're trying to get into the right radio station to have
• 1:15:47
  their music played. That's true.
• 1:15:49
  Like you, when I, when I did stuff on radio as my own on air
• 1:15:53
  side of it, I, I, I'm on the air.
• 1:15:57
  I had a radio show on iheart, OK, And I was still I could get
• 1:16:00
  in the building with my card, with my card.
• 1:16:02
  I go up to my floor with my card.
• 1:16:04
  I couldn't get past the lobby of the elevator lobby with a card.
• 1:16:10
  I had to wait. I don't.
• 1:16:12
  Want everybody? Having access to that
• 1:16:14
  microphone, for sure I've been in the microphone.
• 1:16:17
  Dude, I just, when I come up to the floor of my show, which was
• 1:16:19
  the 3rd floor, I had to wait until my producer, Steve
• 1:16:22
  Giannini came and opened the door and I had access to, I
• 1:16:26
  could go to the building like I had a show, like it wasn't some
• 1:16:29
  punk ass coming from the street. I had a show, but I still
• 1:16:33
  couldn't breach that door unless somebody breached it for me.
• 1:16:36
  Mark Jeffrey, sometimes he'd come get me because, again, I
• 1:16:40
  couldn't get past that door and I was an on air personality when
• 1:16:44
  I did my spots with KUPDKSLX&KD. KB.
• 1:16:49
  I would like go to the front, the front entrance of the thing
• 1:16:52
  and they'd have to buzz me in and then I go into a lobby that,
• 1:16:55
  you know, kind of like it's just a lockdown lobby.
• 1:16:58
  Who are you here to see? Mom?
• 1:17:00
  You know, J David Holmes was KUPD.
• 1:17:02
  I'm here to see J David. J David Holmes.
• 1:17:03
  We're doing a commercial for my real estate.
• 1:17:05
  Oh, who are you? I'm Kristen.
• 1:17:06
  Yeah, Yeah, that's me. OK, we'll have a seat.
• 1:17:08
  He'll be right out. So I'd have to sit and then
• 1:17:11
  you'd hear the buzz and then JD would open the door and say,
• 1:17:13
  come on back, Chris, you know, But that's the thing.
• 1:17:16
  It's it's locked down. So from from a listener, you
• 1:17:21
  know. That's where Aerosmith is.
• 1:17:23
  Going to because they announced Aerosmith's in studio and that's
• 1:17:25
  why, because too many. Crazy fucking people showed up
• 1:17:28
  back in the day, right? Either to get a look at, if you
• 1:17:32
  go back as far as like the Wolfman Jack days, now that was
• 1:17:35
  really nobody even knew what that guy looked like.
• 1:17:38
  There's no video. There was no, you know, you
• 1:17:40
  might see him in a newspaper article or something once in a
• 1:17:43
  while. And rarely would there be a
• 1:17:44
  photo of a radio DJ, you know, So that guy was just a voice in
• 1:17:48
  the night or a voice in the morning, or Yep, then you found
• 1:17:52
  out. That was a real.
• 1:17:52
  Person And all of a sudden people probably started flooding
• 1:17:55
  the radio stations and then passed that.
• 1:17:58
  Like you said, the band's going to be there.
• 1:17:59
  Oh my God, Def Leppard's going to be at such and such studio.
• 1:18:03
  Aerosmith, The Rolling Stones, they're going to go talk to
• 1:18:06
  whoever. So then it became a building.
• 1:18:09
  With no. Windows and a big tower I
• 1:18:11
  remember in Dave Pratt. 'S heyday, he was going down the
• 1:18:14
  I-10 with Tommy Lee from Motley crew in a a bulldozer because
• 1:18:19
  somehow Tommy convinced the construction work in Gimbo the
• 1:18:21
  bulldozer and they're driving down the I-10 towards oh fuck.
• 1:18:27
  It's PIR now. What the hell was?
• 1:18:29
  That Compton, Compton Terrace, driving towards Compton Terrace
• 1:18:31
  in a bulldozer. Him and Pratt in a bulldozer.
• 1:18:34
  That's where I saw a White Zombie.
• 1:18:36
  Oh, right on. Yeah.
• 1:18:37
  But that kind of shit that's that's that's the that's the
• 1:18:40
  allure of of disc jockeys. That's the thing that, you know,
• 1:18:44
  these guys had they had when I moved to Phoenix.
• 1:18:46
  He. Was the main heroes, yeah.
• 1:18:48
  He was. Yeah, and still is, I mean.
• 1:18:51
  It just, it's a different to me. It's just a different era.
• 1:18:55
  You know, it is. You can't.
• 1:18:56
  Just like you. Said when we were kids and we
• 1:18:59
  went to a concert, you can't recreate that for these kids now
• 1:19:02
  today because there's too much exposure of every band that they
• 1:19:05
  like and there's just not that era of mystique that there was
• 1:19:08
  back then, right? Yep, it's a crazy thing about
• 1:19:16
  about disc. Jockeys, man, they had that and
• 1:19:18
  the same thing with I remember when I had I was doing, when I
• 1:19:21
  worked for SeaWorld, there was a SeaWorld office out in Arizona
• 1:19:23
  and we were doing, I was dressed up as Shamu.
• 1:19:26
  So in the in the late 80s, eighty. 8 to probably 90.
• 1:19:32
  That wasn't that wasn't called, I mean, a high school.
• 1:19:33
  So 87 to 89, any commercial you saw on TV with Shamu, you know,
• 1:19:37
  the, the, the, the like, you know, Mickey Mouse cart
• 1:19:41
  Disneyland character Shamu that that was me.
• 1:19:46
  And then we did. It with Dave Muncie.
• 1:19:47
  Because Dave Muncie had this whole summer of supervision
• 1:19:50
  spiel he did every summer for I remember that name too.
• 1:19:53
  Watch The Kids Are Right. So when I met Dave Muncie when
• 1:19:55
  we were in the house, because it was just filmed in the backyard
• 1:19:57
  of the pool, you know, it's kind of like you're Dave Muncie.
• 1:20:01
  You know, even though I was never one of those aw shucks,
• 1:20:04
  kind of people. Like I never.
• 1:20:05
  I never was. Oh shucks.
• 1:20:08
  You're, you know, you're. Dave Munsey.
• 1:20:09
  Holy shit. You know, yeah, I'm not going to
• 1:20:11
  faint or anything. But everybody has that moment of
• 1:20:14
  wow, right? You know, that guy's really
• 1:20:16
  standing in front of me, right? So.
• 1:20:19
  And, and really, it wasn't even, it wasn't even that 'cause I
• 1:20:21
  don't, I've never, I've never looked, I've never seen somebody
• 1:20:24
  on TV. And then when I see him in
• 1:20:26
  person, like, you know, it's like I met Steve O and I was
• 1:20:28
  like, what's up, man? There was nothing, you know, he
• 1:20:31
  was more intrigued with who I was, why I was at our heart
• 1:20:33
  studio than I was who he was and why he was there.
• 1:20:36
  They're just people now. Now when I met Jeff Schwartz,
• 1:20:38
  the Center for the giants, the the two errors with Eli, that
• 1:20:42
  was fun because the size difference, right?
• 1:20:45
  Like that. We, we, we ran in each other in
• 1:20:46
  the hallway and, and me being me being a dumb ass, like can you
• 1:20:50
  get any taller? And he kind of looks down and he
• 1:20:52
  kind of chuckled and he shakes. We said, hey, I'm Jeff.
• 1:20:54
  I was like, hey, I'm Chris. I'm like, what are you doing
• 1:20:56
  here? There's odds on a Fox Sports,
• 1:20:58
  the Fox Sports show. Sports show.
• 1:21:00
  I was like, right. And I run my own show, you know,
• 1:21:02
  And we had little banter. And then Steve Gianini is like,
• 1:21:05
  why don't you guys take a picture?
• 1:21:06
  I said, that'd be fun. Let's go into your studio and do
• 1:21:08
  it. That's the picture I have with
• 1:21:09
  his elbow on my head. Oh, yeah.
• 1:21:11
  That's a good chat man. Right.
• 1:21:12
  And that's just. But that's like I was.
• 1:21:14
  I got my suit. I had a suit getting fixed one
• 1:21:16
  day and I was at Brothers Tailoring in downtown Phoenix
• 1:21:19
  and I walk in to pick it up and Tom Chambers is there.
• 1:21:22
  The, you know, the 611 Center for the Suns is pretty famous.
• 1:21:26
  Marley's Place. Yeah, he's pretty famous, pretty
• 1:21:28
  same as Sky. In Phoenix.
• 1:21:30
  And so there's a dressing table, there's probably 4 feet high and
• 1:21:37
  he was sitting on it. OK, His ass was on the table and
• 1:21:42
  his legs were bent and his feet were on the ground 4 feet tall.
• 1:21:45
  So I've come up to like his, his like between his, his chest and
• 1:21:50
  his belly button just from that aspect.
• 1:21:52
  So, and I knew he was, I recognized him.
• 1:21:54
  I'm like, they can't find you a chair, huh?
• 1:21:58
  And he chuckled. And I was like, hey, you know, I
• 1:22:00
  followed the sun's nice, you know, you know, I don't remember
• 1:22:02
  what I said, but it wasn't, it wasn't like, oh, can I have tab
• 1:22:04
  tables? You know I just you.
• 1:22:06
  Know he's like, what are you here for?
• 1:22:07
  I saw I'm getting a suit, getting a suit fixed.
• 1:22:09
  I said, you know, obviously you're doing something with the
• 1:22:11
  suit. And we kind of chuckled, but one
• 1:22:14
  of the funniest things. I saw was Amari Stoudemire come
• 1:22:16
  into Guitar Center with his entourage and he can't hide
• 1:22:19
  himself because nobody's as tall as Amari Stoudemire.
• 1:22:22
  So all his bodyguards were huge, but he's like 6 inches taller
• 1:22:27
  than anybody that was next to him, right?
• 1:22:29
  And when you come in with. Do you really need an entourage?
• 1:22:31
  Like really, you just need one person.
• 1:22:35
  I really only need one person, maybe 2A driver and and somebody
• 1:22:38
  that's hanging out with you. But I don't, I don't need 6
• 1:22:40
  people. That's why they're broke.
• 1:22:41
  That's why I'll deal. Beckham blew through $100
• 1:22:43
  million in five years. True, stupid, true.
• 1:22:47
  Just be cool. Nobody was.
• 1:22:50
  I mean, it wasn't like. It wasn't like he was arrogant
• 1:22:53
  or anything, but yeah, all those guys are on the payroll.
• 1:22:55
  I agree with you. Yeah, nobody needs now.
• 1:22:57
  Entourage. The TV show Entourage.
• 1:22:59
  HBO. That's based on Mark Wahlberg's
• 1:23:01
  life when he went to Hollywood. Yes.
• 1:23:03
  Did you know that That's a great show.
• 1:23:04
  Yeah. That's why I.
• 1:23:05
  Watched it. Right, so that shows you his his
• 1:23:08
  three or four guys, which I could I could see that because
• 1:23:12
  you're going from here to there and you're going from nobody to
• 1:23:14
  everybody knows your name. You need to have, you need to
• 1:23:18
  have some type of comfort shield around you, especially when all
• 1:23:21
  of us in your life is microscoped.
• 1:23:23
  Well, there's levels of fame, too.
• 1:23:25
  He's attained a level of fame that's higher than most people.
• 1:23:29
  Prince, Michael Jackson, Tom Cruise.
• 1:23:32
  You know they can't just go to the grocery store.
• 1:23:35
  True. Which sucks.
• 1:23:36
  Which is. Fucking terrible.
• 1:23:38
  But I I still don't think you need 5 people because what
• 1:23:40
  attracts you more? If if I see five people walking
• 1:23:44
  around one person, I'm going to I'm going to see that quicker
• 1:23:47
  than I'm going to see the one person walking.
• 1:23:49
  Yeah, I wish I could remember who it.
• 1:23:50
  Was there was a super and I got to commit these things to memory
• 1:23:53
  better. There was a super famous person
• 1:23:55
  that's oh, it was David Lee Roth.
• 1:23:58
  Yeah. He drove himself to Rogan's
• 1:24:01
  podcast. Yeah, in a Toyota.
• 1:24:03
  And Joe's like do. You always, you know, are you
• 1:24:07
  always by yourself? Don't you have bodyguard or
• 1:24:09
  whatever? No, man, I've always been like
• 1:24:11
  this and he kind of alluded to what you said.
• 1:24:14
  You're way less conspicuous if you're by yourself than you are
• 1:24:17
  if you have 5 people with you. Yeah, remember the Harrison
• 1:24:20
  Ford? Thing we showed where he was
• 1:24:21
  like ducking those people, right?
• 1:24:23
  If he would have wore a hat and had sunglasses on, nobody would
• 1:24:26
  have fucking recognized him. He would have been an old man
• 1:24:28
  walking in in the streets of New York.
• 1:24:30
  So to me, it's a conscious decision not to wear a hat and
• 1:24:33
  sunglasses. Sure, even if.
• 1:24:36
  Even if it's not conscious, it's some it like look at me.
• 1:24:39
  Yeah, on some line. Yeah, it's not.
• 1:24:42
  It's not hard to disguise yourself very low key.
• 1:24:47
  In a city like New York. There's millions and millions of
• 1:24:49
  people and that's a walking city, so.
• 1:24:51
  There's always people around, right?
• 1:24:54
  There's I saw. Something the other day on
• 1:24:55
  Instagram, some guys walking and they they picked him up because
• 1:24:58
  he's wearing this overly obnoxious for a coat with
• 1:25:01
  different colors and shit. So somebody's like you could see
• 1:25:05
  him the the camera come on, he's he's falling.
• 1:25:08
  Hey man, hey man, hey man, hey man, the guy fights with say,
• 1:25:10
  who are you? Who are you with that coat?
• 1:25:12
  You have to be somebody. You're not just nobody wearing
• 1:25:15
  that coat. The guy was Andrew Palais or
• 1:25:18
  something. I don't I don't have never heard
• 1:25:19
  the guy. So they're having a little
• 1:25:22
  conversation, but it's like, OK, don't wear the coat.
• 1:25:25
  Nobody fucking gives a shit. Justin Timberlake, if you
• 1:25:28
  haven't seen his DUIDWI footage from it's it's dude was hammered
• 1:25:37
  you. Have all the money in the world.
• 1:25:39
  There's no reason you can't have a driver.
• 1:25:41
  You can't take an Uber. I said the same thing.
• 1:25:43
  And it was funny when he's in the.
• 1:25:44
  Car. He waited till about two or
• 1:25:45
  three minutes into it. Well, I'm Justin Timberlake.
• 1:25:47
  What are you doing? Well, I'm on a world tour.
• 1:25:49
  Well, what's that? What's a world tour?
• 1:25:51
  Yeah, what's a world tour? Really.
• 1:25:55
  I'm touring the country. I'm touring the world with my
• 1:25:58
  band. I'm a singer-songwriter,
• 1:26:00
  musician. My name is Justin Timberlake.
• 1:26:02
  Maybe you've heard of me. But he's he skirts around.
• 1:26:07
  It you know, he he skirts around it, which was which I thought
• 1:26:10
  was crazy. While you look that up, I got to
• 1:26:17
  take. A leak?
• 1:26:18
  No, I was just. I was just bonding.
• 1:26:20
  With Nikki, we. We can bounce dude.
• 1:26:22
  I got. Laundry and shit to do.
• 1:26:24
  I got to finish cleaning my house and stuff, you know, so we
• 1:26:26
  can wrap this fucker up, Wrap it up, you know, then you.
• 1:26:28
  Can go to the. Bathroom and all that kind of
• 1:26:30
  jazz, you know, And edit content.
• 1:26:32
  What's our who? Who's who's Aaron Sunday?
• 1:26:35
  I'll tell you as soon as we're done.
• 1:26:36
  OK, so boys and girls. This is this is the Crystal Mike
• 1:26:40
  show. We've we've, we've chatted you
• 1:26:41
  around for a little over an hour and a half.
• 1:26:42
  Thank you for listening and joining us the, the, the, the
• 1:26:45
  journey down vinyl records. If you're feeling sad, suicidal,
• 1:26:50
  depressed, hopefully this shows helps you not feel that way.
• 1:26:52
  If you still feel that way goes, you know, go for a jog, go
• 1:26:55
  workout, go scream in a pillow. Go find some way to talk to.
• 1:26:58
  If you cannot find someone, text 988.
• 1:27:00
  Somebody's there waiting to talk to you and help you feel better
• 1:27:03
  about yourself and what you're going through.
• 1:27:06
  Do not leave a hole in somebody else's heart by not waking up
• 1:27:09
  tomorrow. Tomorrow is a better day with
• 1:27:11
  you. And I know I say it all the time
• 1:27:13
  and we always close with this, but don't feel like it's we're
• 1:27:16
  being complacent because we truly have been impacted by this
• 1:27:19
  in our own personal lives. So just, you know, don't be that
• 1:27:23
  person that takes your own life. Don't do that until until next
• 1:27:27
  time which will be. April, right?
• 1:27:30
  No, no, We have one more show. We have one more show in March.
• 1:27:33
  See you later, Mike. Love everybody.
• 1:27:34
  Peace. Stop it.
• 1:27:36
  Stop it, Stop it, Stop it. Peace, Peace.