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Trump Economy, Midterm Updates , and Big Pharma · ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes

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  Speaker 1: From Memphis, Tennessee, it's America's favorite gun-toting, Bible-clinging, deplorable American.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yes it is. What is up, my friends? Welcome
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  Speaker 2: is not Todd Starnes, however. He is still out this
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  Speaker 2: Andy Hoosier, that's my name, sitting in here for Todd Starnes,
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  Speaker 2: hear from you because there is so much going on
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  Speaker 2: today that your head's going to be spinning by the
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  Speaker 2: end of this program with how much we're going to
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  Speaker 2: try to cram in here. 901-260-5926. Again, 901-260-5926. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of great guests. Some more economic news. Now, apparently affordability
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  Speaker 2: and the economy is the number one priority for voters
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  Speaker 2: going into midterm season. But some new information is coming out,
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  Speaker 2: and I have to ask a really simple, basic question.
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  Speaker 2: I know that we're frustrated with gas prices, but is
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  Speaker 2: it really stopping you from spending money and actually investing
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  Speaker 2: into the economy by buying the goods and services that
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  Speaker 2: you normally do? According to the economy, they say no.
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  Speaker 2: That is not stopping you. So we'll get to that
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  Speaker 2: here in just a moment. Alejandro Martinez will be on
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  Speaker 2: the program at the bottom of the hour. He's with
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  Speaker 2: the National Food and Commerce Union. We are going to
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  Speaker 2: chat with him about the relationship between the United States
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  Speaker 2: and Mexico with the price of goods coming across the border,
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  Speaker 2: the battle against cartels, and some of the other issues
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  Speaker 2: with our relationship with Mexico. Are we getting better in
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  Speaker 2: that relationship? I know that the president of Mexico not
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  Speaker 2: necessarily happy with us in the ongoing deportation efforts at
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  Speaker 2: the same time. We're not dealing with cartels any longer.
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  Speaker 2: We're not going to tolerate crime any longer. And we're
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  Speaker 2: helping them actually stop it as well with their shadow government,
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  Speaker 2: so to speak, down in the nation of Mexico. So
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  Speaker 2: we'll get to that here in just a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: First and foremost, though, the economy. Big news wrapping up
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  Speaker 2: last night with the Associated Press coming out with their
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  Speaker 2: economic numbers for the second quarter of the United States.
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  Speaker 2: of 2026 showing the U.S. economy grew by a solid,
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  Speaker 2: that's word of the Associated Press, not by me, by
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  Speaker 2: the AP, the U.S. economy grew at a solid 2.2%
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  Speaker 2: pace for the second quarter, April through June, as consumer
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  Speaker 2: spending and business investment came in strong. According to the report,
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  Speaker 2: they say the growth in gross domestic product and the
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  Speaker 2: nation's output of goods and services increased decelerated from 2.5%
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  Speaker 2: pace from January to March through the Commerce Department, reporting
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  Speaker 2: it yesterday as the second quarter growth was an improvement
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  Speaker 2: in the previous estimates, where they came in guesstimating 1.5%,
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  Speaker 2: but came in at a solid 2.2%. So roughly the
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  Speaker 2: same as what we had seen in the first quarter.
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  Speaker 2: Now this comes at a time, obviously, when economy and
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  Speaker 2: affordability and price of gas and price of food and
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  Speaker 2: price of everything else is priority numero uno for voters
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  Speaker 2: across the nation. So I ask you, I want to
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  Speaker 2: ask you the simple question, are you upset with the economy?
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  Speaker 2: And do you know, as we kind of mentioned on
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  Speaker 2: this program yesterday, that it's a conditional issue based on
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  Speaker 2: the conflict in Iran with the energy prices? Outside of that,
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  Speaker 2: inflation's really less than a percent right now under the
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  Speaker 2: Trump economy, way better than the cumulative 30 plus percent
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  Speaker 2: inflation we saw over the four years of Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 2: Inflation outside of energy costs is at an all-time low
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  Speaker 2: right now. We're doing really well, but yet, Polls nationwide,
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  Speaker 2: taken with a grain of salt for election season, show
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  Speaker 2: that only 26% of Americans actually approve of the current
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  Speaker 2: economic state in the nation. I have questions. How can
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  Speaker 2: we all say that we disapprove of the economy and
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  Speaker 2: have 26% approval rating when we're still growing at a
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  Speaker 2: near 2.5% quarter by quarter? How is that possible? Because
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  Speaker 2: if you're still spending money, that means that you're still
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  Speaker 2: spending money. You're okay with letting go of your money.
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  Speaker 2: So either one of two things is happening.
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  Speaker 4: Either.
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  Speaker 2: We refuse to let go of any spending habits that
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  Speaker 2: we have in our lifestyle and in our style of living. Therefore,
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  Speaker 2: we're getting further in debt to spend and be okay with,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, spending more money for the same goods
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  Speaker 2: and services and continue on with that as opposed to
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  Speaker 2: changing your habits. Or we're totally okay with the things
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  Speaker 2: that are going on. Because it's not even just I'm
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  Speaker 2: just spending the same amount and buying the same amount
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  Speaker 2: of things just at a higher cost, and therefore I'm
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  Speaker 2: just going to deal with it, because that wouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: economic growth. That means you're buying more than what you
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  Speaker 2: did in the past. Overall, as a general consumer idea
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  Speaker 2: based on economic growth. So if you're spending more and
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  Speaker 2: buying more products, that means that you're okay with letting
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  Speaker 2: go of that money. And at a time when people
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  Speaker 2: say that they're concerned about the affordability issue and then
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  Speaker 2: you would usually rein it in and not buy as
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  Speaker 2: many things or go out to restaurants nearly as much
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  Speaker 2: or do the things you normally would do because you're
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  Speaker 2: kind of tightening that belt, right? I mean, that would
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  Speaker 2: be the logical step in understanding of this process, but
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  Speaker 2: that's not what's happening. And look, I mean, I get it.
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  Speaker 2: Gas prices are high right now. I went through, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we have our budget. My wife and I, we have
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  Speaker 2: our simple budget. I get my paycheck and then we
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  Speaker 2: separate it into different bank accounts. This is the gas account.
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  Speaker 2: This is the grocery account. This is the bill account.
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  Speaker 2: This is the debt account. And we kind of separate
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  Speaker 2: it all out. And I get it. My gas account
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  Speaker 2: went all depleted a lot faster than what I normally
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  Speaker 2: had to. And we have some mood that we had
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  Speaker 2: to move some things around. Like that's just what we
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  Speaker 2: had to do at the same time. We also reined
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  Speaker 2: in on having to buy other goods because that's what
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  Speaker 2: we just do. That's that's normal. But if everybody's doing that,
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  Speaker 2: then that means we wouldn't see an economic growth of
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  Speaker 2: the GDP and for gross domestic product at a near 2.5%
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  Speaker 2: for the second quarter. So I ask you the question,
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  Speaker 2: are you okay with the economy? Is that what's going
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  Speaker 2: to drive people to not vote in the midterm season
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  Speaker 2: of 2026? And is that going to be a deciding
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  Speaker 2: factor for the midterm season when we have such a
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  Speaker 2: low approval rating, but yet everybody continues to spend a
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  Speaker 2: whole lot of money? At the same time, if you
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  Speaker 2: haven't heard this past week, the consumer sentiment, meaning the
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  Speaker 2: people that actually approve of the economy, kind of like
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  Speaker 2: a poll that way, but just their rating on the
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  Speaker 2: economy overall, is at the second lowest that it's ever
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  Speaker 2: been since we started recording the consumer sentiment back in
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  Speaker 2: the 1950s. Which means, again, the lowest number of people
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  Speaker 2: actually approve of how the economy is going in general
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  Speaker 2: while they continue to spend money. It just doesn't make
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  Speaker 2: any sense. So which one's right and which one's wrong?
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  Speaker 2: Which one's manipulative and which one is accurate? Because according
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  Speaker 2: to the Commerce Department, these are just factual numbers. The opinion...
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  Speaker 2: is what you're being told by people on radio or
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  Speaker 2: on TV or on the business channels or whatever else
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  Speaker 2: you listen to, and then you hear the gas pump
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  Speaker 2: and you're like, gee, things are really expensive. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: don't like the way things are either. But at the
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  Speaker 2: same time, if you're still spending money, then you've got
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  Speaker 2: to have a conflicting opinion in some faction. So I
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  Speaker 2: want to hear from you on that front. Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: did address that yesterday. After we got off the air
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  Speaker 2: yesterday afternoon, Donald Trump was in the White House talking
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  Speaker 2: about an energy announcement that talked about gas prices and
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  Speaker 2: how they're supposedly coming down relatively soon.
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  Speaker 5: Gasoline prices in Alaska are going to tumble. Well, as
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  Speaker 5: soon as the war ends, which is going to be soon,
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  Speaker 5: the Iran war, prices are going to come way down regardless.
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  Speaker 5: But gasoline prices, because of this project and a couple
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  Speaker 5: of others in Alaska, are going to tumble. Now, if
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  Speaker 5: the Democrats come along, I can't speak to that. You're
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  Speaker 5: going to have double, prices will double if they come along.
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  Speaker 5: You'll end up in a depression, recession, something very bad.
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  Speaker 5: They have the worst policy. That's why they haven't gotten elected.
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  Speaker 5: People have to understand what's happening. If anything were done
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  Speaker 5: to hurt Alaska, the prices would go up so high.
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  Speaker 5: And remember, our gasoline prices, having stopped Iran from having
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  Speaker 5: a nuclear weapon, our gasoline prices are low.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so he's still making the pitch about Iran,
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  Speaker 2: the importance of keeping the nuclear weapon away from the
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  Speaker 2: nation of Iran. And with the announcement yesterday that we'll
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  Speaker 2: get a bit further into in just a moment, The
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  Speaker 2: announcement from the Trump administration that we are seeing a
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  Speaker 2: lot more energy being sunk into the United States, opening
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  Speaker 2: up more fracking, opening up more drilling, producing more nuclear
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  Speaker 2: sites in Texas and in Alaska and all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: So we're essentially taking the affordability crises that we have
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  Speaker 2: right now with gas and diesel prices in particular, and
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  Speaker 2: we're turning it around and saying we're going to be
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  Speaker 2: less dependent on the global market based on Iran and
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  Speaker 2: what's going on with the Strait of Hormuz and OPEC
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  Speaker 2: and all the other prices around. And we're just going
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  Speaker 2: to do things ourselves. And I would say that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of a win, right? I mean, that's the whole goal
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  Speaker 2: of the America First agenda. And is it done politically
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  Speaker 2: for an election season? Sure it is. At the same time,
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  Speaker 2: this is going to be beneficial for the long haul,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it? Donald Trump making that announcement with the Commerce
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  Speaker 2: Department and a heck of a lot of other people
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  Speaker 2: in the Oval Office yesterday afternoon.
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  Speaker 5: Today we're thrilled to announce one of the largest energy
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  Speaker 5: infrastructure investments in American history, thanks to the agreements my
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  Speaker 5: administration has secured with the Republican of Korea. They will
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  Speaker 5: invest up to $ 200 billion, that's the Korean government, $ 200
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  Speaker 5: billion to build a six-gigawatt power generation facility in Texas.
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  Speaker 5: That's a major plant. That's about as big as you'll see.
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  Speaker 5: Eight new large-scale nuclear power plants, and at long last,
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  Speaker 5: Alaska liquefied natural gas pipeline. That's a big one, and
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  Speaker 5: that's why we have a lot of people from Alaska,
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  Speaker 5: including a very great governor and your great senator, Dan Sullivan.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so that's a little weird that we have
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  Speaker 2: Korea actually investing in this, 200 billion dollars into it
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  Speaker 2: but at the same time it's kind of hilarious right
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  Speaker 2: and it's actually kind of brilliant to have other nations
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  Speaker 2: investing in the united states for our energy supply i
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  Speaker 2: find that kind of intriguing i mean that's donald trump
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  Speaker 2: doing his business dealings and the art of the deal
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  Speaker 2: that he's so good at which is why he deserves
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  Speaker 2: to be president right now but 200 billion dollars we
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  Speaker 2: have a natural gas pipeline going into alaska the Keystone
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  Speaker 2: Pipeline that we're still continuing on, that doesn't really do
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  Speaker 2: a whole lot for us. At the same time, it
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  Speaker 2: does help us on the back end a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: But we have a new natural gas pipeline in Alaska.
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  Speaker 2: That's going to bring energy prices down for that region.
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  Speaker 2: We have eight nuclear plants being built in the state
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  Speaker 2: of Texas, along with some other power lines and power
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  Speaker 2: supply sources. I mean, this is big. And we're going
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  Speaker 2: to lower some of these prices. It's going to help,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, with the data centers. It's going to
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  Speaker 2: help with the reliability. Down in Texas, I know you guys...
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  Speaker 2: As soon as it gets really hot, you're kind of
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  Speaker 2: used to the hot, but as soon as it gets cold,
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  Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you get brown and blackouts.
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  Speaker 2: I live right smack dab in the middle of the
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  Speaker 2: country in Kansas, and when it gets really hot here,
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  Speaker 2: we get a strain on our grid. When it gets
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  Speaker 2: really cold here, we get a strain on our grid.
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  Speaker 2: Other individuals around other parts of the country, you deal
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  Speaker 2: with the same issues. If we have more reliability, what's
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  Speaker 2: the problem here? Promise is made, promise is kept, and
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  Speaker 2: I think that's all right. Your thoughts on this. 901-260-5926
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  Speaker 2: as we try to focus on the America First agenda
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  Speaker 2: and we're looking at the long-term needs of the United States,
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  Speaker 2: having other nations invest into the United States, which I
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  Speaker 2: think is really awesome, and being able to create some
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  Speaker 2: reliability for energy, dealing with the OPEC and the issue
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  Speaker 2: in Iran and on the Strait of Hormuz and trying
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  Speaker 2: to make us more, not isolated, but more self-dependent and
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  Speaker 2: actually being a little bit more independent compared to what
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  Speaker 2: other factors may be affecting us from the global markets,
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  Speaker 2: which I think is a good news all across the board. Look,
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  Speaker 2: America first, and that agenda is thriving right now. Republicans, hint, hint, wink, wink,
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  Speaker 2: you have to do better on the campaign trail to
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  Speaker 2: promote these ideas, to show what we're actually doing, to
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  Speaker 2: showcase the economic growth and the economic successes that we
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  Speaker 2: have had in the past year, to remind people what
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  Speaker 2: the media tells you isn't always accurate. Wild concept. I
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  Speaker 2: know that's crazy, right? We'll take your phone calls on
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  Speaker 2: this when we come back around the corner here. Andy
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  Speaker 2: So the economy, where do you stand on the economy?
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  Speaker 2: I know that they say that there's only a 26%
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  Speaker 2: approval rating right now. I know that we are the
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  Speaker 2: second lowest on consumer sentiment ever. At the same time,
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  Speaker 2: We have low inflation when you take energy itself off
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  Speaker 2: of the record and look at just everything else. And
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  Speaker 2: we still have a 2.5% growth of the GDP, which
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  Speaker 2: means people are still spending money. So where do you
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  Speaker 2: actually stand on this? And are we still moving in
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  Speaker 2: the right direction to become a little bit more independent,
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more self-dependent, and less reliable on some
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  Speaker 2: of the foreign markets and the global market in general,
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  Speaker 2: especially when it comes to ideas like energy in general.
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  Speaker 5: And by building the Alaska LNG pipeline, we will deliver
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  Speaker 5: nearly 4 billion cubic feet of liquefied natural gas per day.
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  Speaker 5: And that makes us, puts us at a level that's
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  Speaker 5: not comparable with anyone else. The United States is already
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  Speaker 5: the largest natural gas producer and exporter in the world.
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  Speaker 5: And this pipeline will help us expand those exports even further.
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  Speaker 5: For five decades, politicians have talked about the Alaska pipelines
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  Speaker 5: I've been hearing about it from the time I'm a
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  Speaker 5: little boy. The Alaska pipeline is going to be built someday.
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  Speaker 2: I was always fascinated by it. I love how Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump talks at some of these press statements. Here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a nerd. I enjoy economic numbers, and I know
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  Speaker 2: that inflation rates and percentage rates and GDP growth are
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  Speaker 2: really not the sexiest issues to talk about on radio,
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  Speaker 2: but it's important. And with that being the focus, I think,
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  Speaker 2: for most voters that are heading out to the polls
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  Speaker 2: over the next few weeks and month, to get ready
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  Speaker 2: for the midterms. It is an important issue. And there
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  Speaker 2: are so many ways that Republican candidates, conservative candidates around
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  Speaker 2: the country can focus on these issues, right? We can
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  Speaker 2: talk about the economic winds in the past year or
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  Speaker 2: outside of the conditional temporary problem with the Iranian conflict
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  Speaker 2: that we saw inflation rates drop dramatically within months of
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump taking office in 2025. We can talk about
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  Speaker 2: the passage of the one big, beautiful bill with no
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  Speaker 2: tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on
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  Speaker 2: social security. We can talk about those major wins. We
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  Speaker 2: can chat about how we're becoming more independent by refilling
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  Speaker 2: our reserves of oil, how we're building nuclear plants. We're
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  Speaker 2: looking at energy for the future. We're finding more reliable
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  Speaker 2: and more sustainable energy. We can talk about all of that.
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  Speaker 2: And if you want to talk about inflation, why don't
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  Speaker 2: we talk about government spending? Why don't we talk about
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  Speaker 2: government fraud? Why don't we talk about the task force,
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  Speaker 2: the fraud task force run by Dr. Oz and by
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  Speaker 2: Vice President J.D. Vance that's been able to find billions
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  Speaker 2: upon billions upon billions of dollars of fraud and mispayments
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  Speaker 2: going on inside the federal government that if we're not
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  Speaker 2: spending that money on fraudulent stuff, that means we're not
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  Speaker 2: spending it in general, which means the value of the
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  Speaker 2: dollar might actually, I don't know, almost kind of sort
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  Speaker 2: of get a little bit more stable.
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  Speaker 6: This thing, Bobby, really, really bothers me because when people say.
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  Speaker 4: That they care about Medicare, they're trying to protect Social Security,
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  Speaker 4: they're trying to protect Medicaid. Give me a break.
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  Speaker 2: If you are encouraging illegal aliens to sign up from
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  Speaker 2: Social Security and steal Social Security benefits, you're not protecting
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  Speaker 2: Social Security. You're destroying it.
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  Speaker 7: So cut that out and be honest about your intentions.
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  Speaker 3: It's about giving benefits to illegal aliens.
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  Speaker 4: It's not about saving the program.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, Ian and Dylan, we got that one.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: We got that one covered. J.D. Vance, man, dropping some
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: harsh words. He gets a little emotionally excited. Donald Trump's
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: been doing that too at some of the rallies. We've
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: got to be careful if we stream some of the
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: press conferences live from Donald Trump and J.D.
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: Vance, man.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: They're not taking no crap no more. They don't care.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: They're just going after them. So he's right. Look, I mean,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: we have a housing affordability problem. And like J.D. Vance said,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: is that if we actually get rid of the massive
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: flood of migrants coming into the country that we're intentionally
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: bringing in in the sums of millions and dumping them
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: into a state and then being like, gee, I don't
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: know why there's no housing going on. Or with the
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: fraud on Medicare and Medicaid and SNAP programs and Social
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Security and everything else, that if we're not paying into
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: these fraudulent programs and giving money out to where they're
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: not supposed to go, we don't know where it's going,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: just poof, disappearing, which I call a backdoor systematic fraudulent system.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: with the backdoors built into the system itself, allowing for
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: the fraud to happen, allowing for organizations or NGOs or
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: politicians themselves to be able to open up that backdoor
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: and take and funnel some of this money into these
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: fraudulent systems, that if we got rid of that, could
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: you imagine how much money we'd be saving? We wouldn't
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: have to pay that many taxes into the system to
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: fund these programs that are failing, by the way, and
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: bankrupt already, that they would be more sustainable. which in
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: turn would make the dollar more sustainable, which in turn
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: would make the value of your dollar go up, which
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: in turn would make inflation go down. It's all tied together.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: So we can attack this on so many different fronts. Republicans,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: you have a plethora of talking points on the campaign trail.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Pick one. Pull one out of a magic hat and
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: start talking about it on the campaign trail, saying all
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: the good things that we've done, all the good things
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: that we're working on, and all the good things that
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: we want to do moving forward and that we have
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: to have because we need the majorities in Congress to
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: make that happen. Will we see that? I don't know.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Latest polls show that there's a 60% chance of Democrats
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: taking over the Senate and even potentially taking over parts
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: of the House as well. I'm still optimistic. I don't
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: know if that's going to happen. But guys, plenty of opportunity.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Figure it out, man. And we'll help you with the
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: media as we're the pundits, I guess, or the talking heads,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: being able to assist you in fueling that fire with
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: the messaging we're trying to get out there. We've got
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: lots more to get to. It's the Time Stars radio
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: program on a Thursday.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: Stay here.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to it. 901-260-5926 here on the
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Todd Starnes Radio Show. Economic issues going on in the nation,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: the global economy, where Donald Trump walked up to the
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: UN just a week or so ago and gave a
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: State of the Union address about how awesome we've been
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: here in the United States and how we're hyping up
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: and holding up, essentially, the world economy. Is that really true?
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: And what the heck's going on along with the relationship?
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: We have the ongoing conversations with the USMCA, with the
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: trade deals with the nation of Canada, trade deals with
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: the nation of Mexico. I know that Canada is kind
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: of balking on some issues and deals, and we're seeing
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: some higher tariffs between those two nations. Maybe political. I
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: would say a lot political because it is affecting some
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: of those border states up on the north end with
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin and Maine, Michigan, some of those places that are
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: having some hotly contested races. So there is that issue.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: But then we also have the trade deals with the
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: nation of Mexico. We're battling some of the cartels and
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: assisting the nation of Mexico with battling those cartels within
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: their own country. That's where I want to go to.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: as we move to the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker Hotline here
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: on the Todd Starnes Radio Show. Happy to have on
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: here as our next guest as he's with the National
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Food and Commerce Union in Mexico. Really happy to have
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: on Alejandro Martinez. Alejandro, how are you, my friend?
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: Hi, Andy. How are you? Thank you for having me.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, doing great. It's good to chat with you again.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed the chats that I've had with you
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: in the past. Are we getting better? Are we coming
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: to a deal? Do you think a closer deal with
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: a trade deal between the United States and Mexico right now?
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: Yes, I think we're coming closer. I think we have
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: had more talks in the last two months than the
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: last six months, especially after Canada's tantrum. The talks between
• 20:17
  Speaker 8: Mexico and the U.S. increased, and a lot of bilateral
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: commitments and rules between the two countries in very important
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: sectors like steel, aluminum, chips, tomatoes, aerospace, and other industries
• 20:31
  Speaker 8: are getting drafted. And I think we will see some
• 20:35
  Speaker 8: agreements in the next months.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: That is really good news. Some of the prices of
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: imports that are coming in, the price of jalapenos, which
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: are very near and dear to my heart because that's
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: what I eat on a regular basis, and avocados as well.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Just to be honest, I put jalapenos on like my
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: ice cream. I mean, that's how much I enjoy this.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Are those prices coming back down? Because I know we
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: did see a bit of a spike in those for
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: a while.
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: Yes, that's a very, very good difference between a tariff
• 21:02
  Speaker 8: on a vegetable, like a tomato, for example. You did
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: see a rise in the price. when the dumping tariff
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: was imposed. But in the case of avocado, jalapenos, but
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: especially on avocado, just to give your audience an overview,
• 21:16
  Speaker 8: Mexico sends the U.S. more than $ 3. 6 billion on avocados
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: a year. That's like 83% of everything you import. So
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: all your guacamole, even with jalapenos, comes from one state
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: that's named Michoacán. And the problem over there is that
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: the people who pick this mostly have no contract, no
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: Social Security, no labor rights, no human rights. So avocado
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: is not a problem right now because you're in a
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: five-year low, actually. And compared to the Biden administration, where
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: an avocado box was costing $ 75, you have now $ 25
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: during Trump 2.0. So you won't see a substantial change
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: in the avocado price. Of course, you should see a
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: downward price because the harvesting was very good and the
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: crops were record last year.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Well, now I feel bad eating jalapenos and avocados. But
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: I know it's something that you guys have been working
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: on down there trying to actually help a lot of
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: these workers. At the same time, talk about the cartels
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: and some of the shadow government entities that are down
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: there because the vast majority of even a lot of
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: the produce that comes into the United States is at
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: least somewhat controlled or regulated by some of the cartels,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: isn't it?
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: Yes, cartels control territory, not the whole supply chain. So
• 22:31
  Speaker 8: they charge rent in some municipalities, which runs through 33,000
• 22:37
  Speaker 8: certified rowers and more than 100 packers. But we think,
• 22:41
  Speaker 8: and the official data says, that they are making between
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: $ 400 and $ 600 million in extortion payments from this $ 3. 6
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: billion market. So it is an issue. Of course, most
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: of them have workers under the worst conditions possible. Even
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: child labor is present in the avocado supply chain. Drug
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: lords are owners of many companies and farms and ranches.
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: So that's something that labor enforcement could fight, and that
• 23:15
  Speaker 8: would be also good for the American public.
• 23:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the cartel battle that's going on right now.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I know that there's been some tension, at least a
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: little bit, between the president of Mexico and President Trump's
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: administration because of our threat to have U.S. soldiers in
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: the nation to try and battle some of the cartels.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: But then I haven't heard much on that for a while,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: and it seems like maybe things have calmed down a
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: little bit because we've been assisting Mexico in finding where
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: some of these cartel leaders are and where they're hidden
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: out in some of the mountain ranges and trying to
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: battle them to get rid of some of their influence
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: within the government. How's that process going so far?
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: Well, you know, politicians, they have to have their show,
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: preach to the choir, both sides. So you can see
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: in the front our president talking about sovereignty and no
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: intrusion and no military collaboration. But the fact is that
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: in the back door, you can read every day in Mexico,
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: drug lords being snapped or killed, narcos being destroyed. every
• 24:14
  Speaker 8: day you see collaboration between the U.S. and Mexico to
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: combat the cartels. Maybe not as much as we would
• 24:22
  Speaker 8: like because, of course, it's the number one employer in Mexico.
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: Biden administration made the cartels the richest, most powerful men
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: ever existed on Earth. Just with forced migration, they got trillionaires.
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: And if you adopt fentanyl and these kinds of businesses
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: with agriculture, child trafficking, women trafficking, diesel trafficking... The last
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: four years of the Biden administration almost destroyed Mexico and
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: cost America hundreds of thousands of lives. So we're trying
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: to go back to a healthy country. I think America
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: and Mexico are collaborating a lot. We need much more.
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: And from the union side, we would love to see
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: labor enforcement because that's the root cause of all our evils.
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: If we pay Mexicans fair and strong wages in organized
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: labor with labor enforcement through USMCA, the incentives... For migration,
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: forced migration, organized crime, transshipment with China, all these problems
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: that are being now on the table with the USMCA
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: could be combated with food wages and regional wage baseline,
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: which is one of our proposals.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: That is so wild. Let's go back to the Biden
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: administration for just a moment with something that you just said,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: that the Joe Biden administration that made the cartel some
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: of the richest organizations on the face of the earth.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Was that done just based on your opinion? Was that
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: done based on intention or was that just complete ignorance
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: of the issue, allowing these major caravans to go through
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: the entire nation from the southern tip all the way
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: up to the U.S. border, allowing this flood of migrants
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: and the drugs and human trafficking and everything else coming
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: into the United States and willingly looking the other way?
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Was that done intentional or was that just a byproduct
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: of really bad policy decision? No, no, no.
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: That was a plan. That was intentional. We saw that
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: in the union, the companies that were created and the
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: chains that were formed for this migrant caravan. Of course,
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: our affiliates were suffering the consequences of their own safety
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: in their own towns because the cartels were taking over
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: all of the states. Because everyone wanted a piece of
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: the business, you know. Biden opened the borders. It's just
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: one data. They said officially there were 10,000 migrant encounters
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: a day, right, during Biden administration. We know in Mexico
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: that migrants paid between $ 20, 000 to $ 50, 000 to the coyotes,
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: which are part of the cartels, to get them from
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: the southern border to the northern border. Let's go conservative
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: and think it's 20,000. And not $ 10, 000 a day, but
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: $ 5, 000 a day. You're speaking about $ 100 million a day.
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: Just migrant trafficking.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: And that's not including fentanyl. That's not including the drugs.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: That's not including the guns. That's nothing else.
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: Nothing. Just migrant trafficking. There's no way that wasn't planned.
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: There was a structure, politicians involved, companies. Of course, all
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: the border patrol got involved and corrupted in some manner,
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: Mexican and U.S. And now you're seeing the consequences of that.
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: So that was intentional. I think personally, I think Biden
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: was importing voters as they are losing the black and
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: Hispanic vote.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Wow, it's insane. We're talking with Alejandro Martinez. He's with
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: the National Food and Commerce Union. Now that they were
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: one of the most rich organizations on the face of
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: the earth, and now we're trying to rein that in,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I can only imagine as well as we talk about
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: a shadow government in Mexico, the politicians, the military leaders
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: that have ties to certain cartels and the ongoing civil
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: war on that front. How do you weed something like
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: that out? Obviously, that's got to take some time.
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: It's going to take time, but you saw what's happening
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: in Salvador. In Salvador, it was one of the deadliest
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: countries on earth. Bukele got the political will together to
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: go after the cartels, the Maras, right, which were also
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: in the whole system and part of every family in
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: El Salvador. And in two years, he turned El Salvador
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: into one of the small, peaceful, and the safest countries
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: on Earth. So, of course, El Salvador is tiny, but
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: that's a way to go. You need political will. You
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: need the people to be on your side and you
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: need the big jails and the money and the courage
• 28:43
  Speaker 8: to ignore all these NGOs that were profiting from this
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: mob force scam and just go after them. And if
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: you kill the tracks, you kill the finances, you snap
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: the people, you clean up the social fabric because you're
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: having formal labor and good wages and build unions. I
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: think we could do a lot, really a lot compared
• 29:05
  Speaker 8: to what's happening right now.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Well, like you said, I mean, some of the other
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: leaders that are trying to tackle this, I mean, Naibu
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Kelly down in El Salvador, he's done an amazing job
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: as well. Progressives absolutely hate him. They've called him that
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: he's violating human rights by just locking people up because
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: they're part of a gang or something. But that's even
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: judges and arresting judges because they've had ties to these
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: different gangs that were down in El Salvador. I mean,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: that's eventually that's what it's going to have to take
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: if you're going to get rid of this corruption, right?
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: Of course, of course, the progressives are against this because
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: they have profited from this for decades. They need slave labor.
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: They need illegal migrants. They need terrorists. They need corruption.
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: They need corrupt NGOs. So their system work and their
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: laundering system work. And they will fight very hard for
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: that not to be lost because that's worth hundreds of
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: billions of dollars for them.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Alejandro, we got a few minutes left here. Let's talk
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: about the Hispanic voters. We go into the midterm season
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: for a moment because you work both in the United
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: States and in Mexico. I know that Donald Trump overwhelmingly
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: saw a major increase in Hispanic support in the 2024
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: presidential election. With the immigration raids that are going on
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: right now across the country, he has been focusing on
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: most of the cartels and crime and so on and
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: so forth, which has been good. Some of the other
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: ICE raids, obviously very controversial. But do you think that
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: he's still in Republicans with this mindset of keeping America
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: safe and working with Mexico to get rid of cartels?
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Is that still a popular talking point? And do you
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: think that Hispanic voters are still open to those ideas
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: and supporting Republicans in the Trump administration?
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: I think you have two teams in the Hispanic voters
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: right now. You have the MAGA team, the Hispanics that
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: have been working very hard in America, the now Americans.
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: They have small businesses. They know what illegal migration has
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: done to their businesses, cheapening labor and making work undignified
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: in many cases, like on the field, landscaping or construction.
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: where even Americans don't want to do those jobs anymore, hospitality,
• 30:59
  Speaker 8: those Hispanics, I'm sure they're still voting for Donald Trump
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: because they don't want these chaos that came with Biden
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: and Obama back. Then you have the other Hispanics that
• 31:09
  Speaker 8: are more sensitive, maybe in the middle, moderate, or that
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: were seeing what happens if Trump wins this time, and
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: they are angry because of some of the ICE raids.
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: The way they are being enacted. And I think they're
• 31:25
  Speaker 8: wrong because I don't think any of those people would
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: harbor these people in their own homes. I'm pretty sure
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: they won't open the door to these people. So that's
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: do as I say, not as I do. But I
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: think President Trump and they're missing this part to speaking
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: to the Hispanic vote about wages, about dignified labor back home.
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: Millions of Mexicans are in America, and they have millions
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: of Mexican families back home. They're sending billions in remittances
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: every year, and he's not addressing that. If he addresses
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: the safety and the labor enforcement in Mexico for their
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: families as a program, he would win a lot of
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: support from this team of the Hispanic vote, and they
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: are missing this part completely right now.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Well, it's a work in progress, and hopefully you're right.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: We can move in the right direction on multiple of
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: these fronts, with both the crime issue, the cartel issue,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: the trade issue. Get this UMCA deal done, and we
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: can have a better relationship with nations all across the board, Canada, U.S.,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: and Mexico. It is Alejandro Martinez. Go and find him.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: All the great information with the National Food and Commerce Union.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: It's always great to chat with you, my friend. I
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: love the chats. We've got to do it again soon.
• 32:39
  Speaker 10: Of course.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: You betcha. Appreciate it very much. That, again, Alejandro Martinez
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: on the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker Hotline. We'll cover some of
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: this and break that down when we come back, plus
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: your phone calls to wrap up this hour of the
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Todd Starnes Radio Program. Stay here. All right, welcome back
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: to it, Todd Starnes Radio Program. Thanks again to Alejandro
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Martinez coming on the program. Great conversation. I love hearing
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: about our relationship with Mexico, and we need a very strong,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: healthy relationship with both Canada and with Mexico. If Canada
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: would just get on board and be our 51st state, man,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I tell you, things would just work a heck of
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: a lot better. But we are getting better with Mexico
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: and battling with those cartels. Can you imagine, again, the
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Biden administration either intentionally wanting this garbage to happen or
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: just not caring because he was trying to import the
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: voters or whatever he was doing, but allowing the cartels
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: to be the most wealthy organizations on the face of
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: the earth? They essentially could, with their value, with how
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: much money they were making, they could essentially have the
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: GDP of an entire country themselves. That's insane. And we
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: allowed it, right? Mexico, that's your problem. But what we
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: did here allowed that to happen because the infrastructure was
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: built there to allow them to profit from what was
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: going on here and allow them to cross that border.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: And Biden was just like, meh. Well, I can't say
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Joe Biden. He was there with his Sharpie on his,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: you know, drawing his pictures in the Oval Office while
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: everybody else was running things for him in the auto pen.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: So it wasn't really him, but He didn't do any
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: favors as well. By the way, I am a bit
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: surprised that I did not get any phone calls about
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: the jalapenos on ice cream. Ian, jump on here for
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: a moment. The Gen Z version of this one. Is
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: spicy food still a popular thing for the younger Gen?
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Because I got to admit, I literally put maybe not
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: on ice cream, but literally on just about everything else.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: I have to have spice in my life.
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's definitely still a big thing. I know like
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: two or three people who will carry a bottle of
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: hot sauce with them wherever they go. And I haven't,
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: I haven't heard about jalapeno ice cream though.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, that is a line, I guess I
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: have yet to try. So I guess I can't knock
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: it one way or the other, but now here's the thing.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: There is a difference between a hot sauce and jalapenos
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: and like actual peppers. I'm a pepper guy for whatever reason,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: hot sauces themselves. They, they hurt my stomach. They give
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: me heartburn or whatever. And I think it may be
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: the vinegar in it or something. So there is a
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: difference between actual hot sauce and and salsa or peppers
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: themselves i will put you know on hamburgers or obviously
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: in my tacos even italian food i'll drop some jalapenos
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: or something in there so i love those if you
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: get like i don't know wings like really hot wings
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: and frank's red hot sauce i enjoy that but that
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: one burns me i don't know what the difference.
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: Is yeah i don't know either there's just something about
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: it that has a change i don't understand.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: It yeah yeah i don't know all right well I
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: did actually, by the way, this past week or so
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: was the Kansas State Fair, and I was up there
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: for the majority of the time. I found a vendor
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: that was selling hot sauces, and some of their hot
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: sauces actually have been on that show Hot Ones. If
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: anybody's watched Hot Ones where you interview the celebrity and
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: they're eating hot wings and they get progressively hotter as
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: it goes along, he had two or three hot sauces
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: that he's had that's actually been on Hot Ones. So,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: of course, I had to buy those, and one of
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: them is a cantaloupe hot sauce with cantaloupe habaneros and
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Reaper sauce. And it's amazing. It's incredible.
• 36:07
  Speaker 11: Wow.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: So it actually has like flavor. It's not just fire.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: It has. Oh yeah. It has a lot of flavor.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: It has a lot of flavor and I'm going to
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: get everybody a tip here. I make my own salsa
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: and I'm going to give you a recipe. It's super easy. Uh,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: but I, apparently some people think it's hot or something.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: It's very simple. Here's what it is. And I got
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: this from actually a Mexican coworker when I was in
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: the banking industry, nine jalapenos, nine Serrano peppers, uh, Nine
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: habaneros with two tomatoes and a half an onion. You
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: boil them, you blend them, you put some lime juice
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: and salt on it, and you're good. That's it. That's it.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: It's incredible.
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: My coworkers apparently don't like it. They think it's way
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: too hot. They sweat or something, but whatever. We'll continue
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: some of this when we come back around the corner.
• 36:53
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  Speaker 2: There is plenty happening as we are now counting down
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: those days, and I think I said the day wrong
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: on the countdown for election day. I believe it's 34
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: days now because it was, was it 35, 36? I
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: don't know. We're right around there. Let's just say a
• 38:22
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• 38:26
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• 38:28
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• 38:31
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• 38:33
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• 38:37
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• 38:41
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• 38:45
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• 38:49
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• 38:54
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• 38:56
  Speaker 2: more secure and more reliable across the nation. We'll break
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: all that down and a heck of a lot more
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: coming up at the bottom of the hour. That being said,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: let's bounce around the country in certain areas here, shall we?
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: And one of our favorite people here on the Todd
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Starnes radio show is, of course, in New York City,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: the man himself, Zohran. Mamdani, he made an announcement early
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: this morning, and this is where we're at. I mean,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: just put this into perspective. You have economic issues. You
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: have the grocery stores. You have a budget in New
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: York City that's now bigger than the entire budget for
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: the state of Florida. You have the billions of dollars
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: being bailed out by the state. of New York, bailing
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: out New York City. You got the federal government bailing
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: out with social programs and certain programs for New York City.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: because the socialism you have to take from other people
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: in order to funnel it to where you want it
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: to go, and it doesn't do a darn thing, and
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: it doesn't help anybody at all whatsoever. But while all
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: of that is going on, the campaign tactic right now
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: to help Democrats and talk about how great Zoran Mamdani's
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: doing as mayor of New York City is to focus
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: on the hard-pressing issues. And I'm talking about the most
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: important thing you could possibly talk about, for new york
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: city with his press statement that he had earlier this morning.
• 40:06
  Speaker 12: So a year ago a google maps user named henry
• 40:09
  Speaker 12: walker left a review for box street park in his
• 40:14
  Speaker 12: list of pros he wrote that it provided quote desperately
• 40:17
  Speaker 12: needed park space in north greenpoint his list of cons
• 40:20
  Speaker 12: contained only one item does not exist and still he
• 40:26
  Speaker 12: gave it three out of five stars New Yorkers are
• 40:30
  Speaker 12: nothing if not optimistic. As you can see from the
• 40:34
  Speaker 12: cracked patches of pavement around us, Henry is correct. Box
• 40:38
  Speaker 12: Street Park does not exist. More than 20 years ago,
• 40:42
  Speaker 12: City Hall promised to transform this lot into a park.
• 40:46
  Speaker 12: That was 2005. When that promise was made, movies came
• 40:51
  Speaker 12: out on VHS, Tobey Maguire was Peter Parker, and I'm
• 40:56
  Speaker 12: pretty sure I wasn't even born.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Even then.
• 41:00
  Speaker 12: The people of Greenpoint knew they deserved better. And they
• 41:05
  Speaker 12: intended to hold government to it.
• 41:10
  Speaker 11: All right.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Ian, come on here for just a moment. The park
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: in New York. Now, first off, look, this guy, Zoran Mamdani,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: he knows he's a celebrity, right? He knows how to
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: do the social media thing. He's a social media influencer.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: That's how he got his notoriety to try and run
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: for mayor of New York City. He knows how to
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: work a crowd. cracking these jokes about being 2005. I'm
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: not even born yet. All right, cool. At the same time,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: this is the hard-hitting news. The people are holding the
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: government accountable because they want to park. So he holds
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: this massive press conference and makes the announcement that promise
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: is made, promise is fulfilled. In fact, on the podium,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: it says, turning a promise... into a park. That's how
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: big he's making this statement of a park in New
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: York city. And look, I know that the young Jen,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: they like the opportunity to walk around outside and enjoy
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: the fresh air. But is this the hard hitting issue?
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: That's going to win over voters in New York city.
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: You know, ultimately people are eventually going to see through
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: when none of his programs work out. Like the government
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: run grocery stores, they've been pushed back. What two or
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: three times are already over budget, right? That's what's going
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: to affect people. And he didn't fix like the 50%
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: tax that people are having to deal with. If you
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: add up all the taxes on the cost of living
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: that people are dealing with.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: But do you think they care? Do you think they care?
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, I mean the younger Jen, I mean,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: he was campaigning in nightclubs. He was going out to
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: the EDM kind of clubs and he was out there
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: and he get on the microphone for 30 seconds and
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: be like, I'm going to give you free buses and
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: everybody would cheer. And that's how he got voted in.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: In fact, the million people that turned out to vote
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: in New York city, it's 80% of them were first-time
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: voters or immigrants that had come into New York City.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: That's who won Doron Mamdani. So the fact that he's
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: not fulfilling all these promises for the younger gen, do
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: you think they actually care?
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: Well, I think a lot of his campaigning extremely effective
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: because he has fun, right? He looks like the young
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: promising candidate and he promises people free stuff, right? That's
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: always effective. And I think for a lot of people,
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: they honestly don't care. right, a lot of the younger generation,
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: which villainizes anything that, like, the nuclear family, or democracy,
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: or have been trained to hate anyone wealthy, like, we
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: have such a strong sense of socialism among the younger generation,
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: especially with our current school system, so I think for
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: a decent amount of people, they don't care that much
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: about the actual implementation of the policies as much as
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: what he's selling them, which is the idea of free
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: stuff and the whole stick it to the man, we're
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: going to get the billionaire's ideas.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as it sounds good. We don't really
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: care what the policies are behind the scenes or how
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: it gets implemented. We just want to hear the rhetoric
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: that makes us feel good on that. That's a wild
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: way to live your life. But I guess, you know,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: for socialists, that's the way they do it. By the way,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: I had to look up Zoran Mondani just to make
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: sure because I would have been really upset. He was
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: born before 2005. He was born in 1991. So he's
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: 34 years old. And I guess he's only, what, three
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: years younger than I am. And I hate to say it,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: he's a fellow Libra. His birthday is coming up on
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: October 18th. Mine's on the 13th. So we're close on
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: that front. That makes me a little sad, but at
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: least I am more optimistic of the fact that he
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: wasn't born after 2005 because that would have made me
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: really sad and feel really, really old for sure. All right,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: let's move from New York City all the way out
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: to California. I know that's where Todd is right now
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: with his leadership conference and his spiritual conference that he's at.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: But I want to focus on if you did not
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: get to watch last night on CNN. I know that
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: even the idea of flipping on CNN is kind of
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: a foreign concept. But last night, there was a governor's debate.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: The governor's debate for the great state of California. And
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I got to tell you, man, Steve Hilton rocked it.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: He killed that debate. It was a great one against
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: the Democrat challenger, Xavier Becerra. Now, that being said, the
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: mayor of LA, Karen Bass, who's also running for her re-election,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: came out on a podcast interview recently and said that
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: the race is over. We shouldn't even have an election.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Becerra is going to obviously win. And the polls show
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: that Becerra right now is up really 60-40. There's a
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: wide gap. I don't know that we're ever going to
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: see California turn red again like the governor of California,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Arnold Schwarzenegger, like that, or all the way back during
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: the Ronald Reagan time to the 1980s. Or I guess
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: before the 80s when he was governor before he became president.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: But is there an opportunity for voters in California to
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: finally wake up and realize what the heck's going on
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: in their state and the business that's leaving and the
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: people that are leaving, and what they're importing in, and
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: what their priorities have been. Look, there's got to be
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: a line in the sand. There's got to be a
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: breaking point at some point for people to say, wow,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: this place is really messed up. We should probably do
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: something different and not keep voting in the same party
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: and the same people over and over and over again
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: and be like, this time it'll work. I don't know
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: how that's going to happen. I don't know when that
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: line in the sand is actually going to be and
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: when we're going to cross that threshold. But right now,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: we're still seeing Democrats overwhelmingly just blindly go along with
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Xavier Becerra. But the debate last night was actually pretty telling.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: And it was really entertaining to watch because Steve Hilton
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: is a rock star. I've been a fan of his.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I like what he does for the most part. And
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: he called out Xavier. Yeah, he held nothing back last night.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: It was kind of entertaining.
• 46:23
  Speaker 13: I want to start with what voters say is the
• 46:26
  Speaker 13: most important issue here in California, and that is the
• 46:29
  Speaker 13: cost of living, which is among the highest in the nation.
• 46:32
  Speaker 13: Secretary Becerra Your opponent says he's going to eliminate state
• 46:36
  Speaker 13: taxes on the first $ 150, 000 in income and get rid
• 46:41
  Speaker 13: of the $ 0. 63 per gallon gas tax. He says those
• 46:44
  Speaker 13: tax cuts are the quickest and most direct way to
• 46:47
  Speaker 13: bring relief to Californians.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Is he right?
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, he's wrong.
• 46:52
  Speaker 9: What he would do is he would damage our state
• 46:54
  Speaker 9: even further, make it harder for working families. He'd make
• 46:56
  Speaker 9: it tough for folks like my parents.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, hold on. Before we get into his full definition
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: here and what he's going to say, The Steve Hilton
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: plan is giving tax breaks across the board. Obviously, taxes
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: are way too high. The inflation is way too high.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Government spending in California, way too high. If you live
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: in California, you know it, baby. You know what's up,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: and you know the taxes that you have to deal with.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: If you're a business owner in California, you know what's
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: up in that state of California. The plan is that
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: no one pays state income tax under $ 150, 000, which.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: That's a wild threshold there. And then tax breaks for
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: the super wealthy, which of course Democrats get mad at.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: The argument that Becerra is making is that families that
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: are struggling, the families that are living the American dream
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: or trying to live the American dream, or maybe they're
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: recently moved to the state of California as an immigrant
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: coming in in the legal process and trying to make
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: their life in the state of California, that cutting their taxes,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: try to walk with me on this logic here, cutting
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: their taxes is would make it more difficult for them
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: to survive. Let that one sink in.
• 48:01
  Speaker 9: What he would do is he would damage our state
• 48:03
  Speaker 9: even further, make it harder for working families. He'd make
• 48:05
  Speaker 9: it tough for folks like my parents who came to
• 48:08
  Speaker 9: this country with $ 12 and they settled in California. They
• 48:11
  Speaker 9: were able to build the California dream, but they had
• 48:14
  Speaker 9: to work hard. They needed to make sure that the
• 48:17
  Speaker 9: government was there with them. If you start cutting taxes,
• 48:20
  Speaker 9: and Steve Hilton's plan actually goes beyond just the $ 150, 000
• 48:23
  Speaker 9: he claims he'll try to cut. He wants to give
• 48:27
  Speaker 9: the richest Californians, millionaires and billionaires, a 40% tax cut,
• 48:31
  Speaker 9: which means, of course, he'll take it out of our schools,
• 48:33
  Speaker 9: he'll take it out of health care, he'll take it
• 48:35
  Speaker 9: out of housing, and make the conditions even worse. We
• 48:38
  Speaker 9: have to have sound policy, whether it's tax policy or
• 48:42
  Speaker 9: spending policy, to make sure that we can bring our
• 48:44
  Speaker 9: California a dream back to life right now.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: All right, so his argument is no. By cutting taxes
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: for the people making less than $ 150, 000 in California, it's
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: not going to be beneficial to them. That's going to
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: make it harder for them somehow to survive, like his
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: parents who came here at $ 12 in their pockets. And
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: under the current plans, you still would have had to
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: pay taxes on that, but it would have been more
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: difficult if they actually kept that $ 12 to build their
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: life and build their business in California. And then, of course,
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: he sidesteps and started talking about the evil rich people
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: and how we need to have stable taxes and stable
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: government and government needs to be there. the typical left-wing
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: talking point government is here to help and the social
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: programs are the most important thing on the face of
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: the earth and although as california spending more money on
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: education more money on social programs more money on government
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: red tape and regulation and regulatory burden on the private
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: sector and individuals and businesses. That is a good thing.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: It has to be stable and it has to be thriving.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: So even though business is leaving, we have to keep
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: the high tax rates because the heck with you, you evil,
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: super duper evil rich person. We need to tax the
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: heck out of you to make sure that we have
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: a stable California government that's, by the way, really in
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: debt because of how much they actually spend. That's his plan.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: And Democrats are like, yeah, sounds good. Everybody, round of
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: applause for him.
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: We have a situation where if you start making tax
• 50:04
  Speaker 9: breaks for the wealthiest, you damage our working families like
• 50:07
  Speaker 9: my parents.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Mr.
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: Helton?
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: I love the way that Javier says the wealthiest are
• 50:12
  Speaker 7: people who are earning less than $ 150, 000. He is struggling.
• 50:16
  Speaker 7: But first of all, I just want to say thank
• 50:18
  Speaker 7: you to CNN for bringing Javier out of hiding. He's
• 50:22
  Speaker 7: barely been seen in public since the primaries.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Four months ago.
• 50:25
  Speaker 7: It's very important we have this debate. And the simple
• 50:28
  Speaker 7: point is that the quickest way to get more money
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: in people's pockets is for the government to take less out.
• 50:34
  Speaker 7: That's what I'm going to be doing. And it's not
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: coming from the budgets that he describes. You know what
• 50:39
  Speaker 7: it's coming from? Canceling high-speed rail, which he's promised to
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: continue with.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Interesting. I love it. He goes on scorched earth. We
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: have many more of these we'll play when we come
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: back here. I'm going to get your thoughts.
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: 901-260-5926.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Where do you stand? Do you think that California has
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: any sense of common sense left in them to say,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: wait a second, maybe, just maybe, we should do something
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: different from the direction we've been on for decades now
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: and things aren't working out, so let's just do the
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: same thing and elect the same people and hope for
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: a different response? Do you think they've woken up to
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: that and could we see a change in California?
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: 901-260-5926.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Andy Hoosier sitting in for the great Todd Starnes on
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: the Todd Starnes Radio Program. Welcome back to it, Todd
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Starnes Radio Program. Speaking of the state of California, by
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: the way, Gavin Newsom, Mr. Hollywood wannabe, the governor of California,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: he has just released a statement on his social media
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: regarding an executive order that he has signed to combat
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: President Donald Trump. Now, if you remember during the tech
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: meeting that Trump had in Washington, D.C. a couple days ago,
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: and his executive order to say that we are now
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: addressing artificial intelligence as superintelligence. Kind of petty, kind of ridiculous,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: but nonetheless, that's what he did. Governor Gavin Newsom has
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: countered that by signing his own statewide executive order through
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: the Executive Department of the State of California, Executive Order N-10-26,
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: whereas California dominates artificial intelligence innovation, even as a state
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: has taken more aggressive action to strengthen the safety, security,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: and consumer privacy of AI, and whereas while language and
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: choice of terminology can have significant purporting to change to
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: something Something's name cannot distract a person of normal intelligence
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: from recognizing the importance of craven failure to take action
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: to address well-documented emerging security and safety risks by opposing that.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: And therefore, Governor Gavin Newsom, State of California, in accordance
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: with the authority vested in me by the state constitution
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: and the statutes of the State of California, further informed
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: by common sense, do hereby issue the following executive order
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: effective immediately that it will be referred to as not superintelligence,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: but by artificial intelligence. So there you go. You got
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: the battle of the words, the terminology that's going on
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: between Donald Trump and Gavin Newsom. Well done. I'm glad
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: you're wasting your time on that one, Gavin Newsom. Kind
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: of ridiculous. Speaking of, by the way, AI and data centers,
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: that was brought up in the debate last night between
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Steve Hilton and Xavier Becerra for governor of California, where
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: that one got a little testy.
• 53:13
  Speaker 7: I just want to ask you a very simple question.
• 53:15
  Speaker 7: How can we possibly trust you on this when you
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: are funded by big tech and AI? How much money
• 53:23
  Speaker 7: have you taken from OpenAI and Anthropic?
• 53:26
  Speaker 9: The reason you could trust me, Steve, is because I.
• 53:28
  Speaker 7: How much money have you taken from OpenAI and Anthropic?
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: You want to answer?
• 53:32
  Speaker 9: The answer is the reason you could trust me is
• 53:34
  Speaker 9: because I have sued Meta. I have sued Amazon. I
• 53:38
  Speaker 9: have sued Google. I have sued these very companies. I
• 53:41
  Speaker 9: have enforced the law against these companies. And I will
• 53:44
  Speaker 9: continue to do so as governor. The difference between us, Steve,
• 53:47
  Speaker 9: is I have a record of having done that. You
• 53:50
  Speaker 9: just say the talk, but you've never done it.
• 53:53
  Speaker 7: What I've never done is what you've done in your
• 53:55
  Speaker 7: 36 years as a career politician, where you've never created
• 53:59
  Speaker 7: a job. You've never actually had to make any money
• 54:02
  Speaker 7: of your own. All you've ever done is spent other
• 54:04
  Speaker 7: people's money in every government job you've had. According to
• 54:08
  Speaker 7: your Democrat colleagues, the ones who worked with you, like
• 54:12
  Speaker 7: Susan Rice, who worked with you side by side when
• 54:15
  Speaker 7: you were in the Biden cabinet, She described you as
• 54:18
  Speaker 7: an idiot. She called you.
• 54:21
  Speaker 14: * * * *.
• 54:21
  Speaker 7: Why did Susan Rice, a respected political leader, call you
• 54:25
  Speaker 7: an idiot?
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: I think we got that one too. We got that
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: one too, Dylan and Ian. And Helen, we got that
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: one too. Steve Hiltman not holding anything back in that
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: governor's debate last night against Xavier Becerra. Look, I mean,
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: he's a lifelong politician. He worked in the Obama administration.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: He's been the attorney general for California. He's been a
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: lifelong politician for 30 plus years. And Steve's right. I mean,
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: the guy hasn't really created a job. He sues. He regulates.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: He enforces. He goes after the private industry. That's the
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: entire purpose of government. And Steve says, wait a second,
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: even your own Democrat colleagues don't like you. What are
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: we doing here? And why would you allow this individual
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: to control AI, to control the data centers, to control
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: the tech industry? You got to remember, we got Silicon
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Valley in California. That's where the vast majority of these
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: tech leaders around the world and even in the country
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: here are based out of with Silicon Valley and the
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: state of California. And that's going to be a major
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: economic driver for you. While the senator's going to be like, hey,
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: we want your tax money, we're going to go ahead
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: and tax you evil, richy riches while we regulate the
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: heck out of you because government wants to control this industry.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know how well that's going to fly. See
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: how well that works out for you. Back after this
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: on the Todd Starnes Radio Program. All right, welcome back
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: to it. Todd Starnes Radio Show. Andy Hoosier sitting in
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: for the Todd Starnes Show today, 901-260-5926. We have a
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: bunch more audio from that debate in California last night
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: from the governor's debate. Steve Hilton just rocking it, man,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: not holding back on Xavier Becerra. So we'll get to
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: that and some really interesting accusations. Hilton made regarding the
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: immigration issue, human trafficking, and allowing more than 100,000 kids
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: in California to go missing that we still don't know
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: under his leadership as Attorney General in California and their
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: lack of enforcement for immigration. So we will cover some
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: of that a little bit later. We are covering, however,
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: some breaking news going on. Hat tip to Fox News
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: on this one. Apparently, Iranian negotiators that were here in
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: the United States working with the Marco Rubio, have been
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: kicked out of the United States as, according to the statement,
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: they say that talks have stalled and Trump lays out
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: a possible timeline for more potential strikes. So, as we
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: go into the midterms, and we said that we're about
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: ready to wrap up, we're looking for that off-ramp, the
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: energy prices that are relatively high, maybe, just maybe, might
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: be lingering a little bit longer. We'll cover some more
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: of that, and that leads into our next guest on
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: the program as we go right to our Patriot Mobile
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: Newsmaker hotline. here on the Todd Starnes Radio Show as
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: we have the energy policy analyst for our friends over
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: at Americans for Prosperity, Mr. James Maroney. James, how are you,
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: my friend?
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: I'm doing real good after yesterday, so it's a good start.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: It's a great start. There is some wild news going on.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: We have the Iran issue. We have the meeting with
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: China that just happened this past week. And, of course,
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: now the announcement with the data centers and AI and
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: the tech industry coming out of Washington, D.C., James, I mean,
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of impact on the prices of energy
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: in general across the nation right now. Then, of course,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: like you said, we had this announcement with Donald Trump
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: where we have eight new nuclear facilities, a pipeline of
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: natural gas in Alaska. Check this out.
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: Today we're thrilled to announce one of the largest energy
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: infrastructure investments in American history thanks to the agreements my
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: administration has secured with the Republic of Korea. They will
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: invest up to $ 200 billion, that's the Korean government, $ 200
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: billion to build a 6-gigawatt power generation facility in Texas.
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: That's a major plant. That's about as big as you'll see.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: All right. So, Ami, what does that mean for us, James?
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Do we get to look forward to some more stable
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: and reliable energy here?
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: It's definitely seeming like that. And one thing you might
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: have missed, because it's super nerdy and wonky, and it's
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: where I spend most of my time over the past year,
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: is that the Senate announced finally that a truly bipartisan
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: permitting reform package. And when I tell you it's a
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: damn good bill, I am not overselling it. This is
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: arguably one of the best bills I've seen coming out
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: of Congress, specifically the Senate, in some time on energy.
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: And if we want to see all of these announcements,
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: all these new energy developments actually come to fruition, permitting
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: needs to be number one. And right now, Leader Thune
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: has promised to bring it up in the lame duck.
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: And this is, like I said, a damn good bill.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: I went through it yesterday, read all 417 pages.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: That hurt.
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: But we have a one-shot golden opportunity to actually deliver
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: and make sure energy can become affordable. So all of
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: these cool energy projects and even housing or any kind
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: of transmission, all of the above can only happen if
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: we can actually make it easier to build. So for example,
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: like the stuff in Alaska, a lot of that is
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: federal land. It takes a long time to get approval
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: and cleared and all the permits you need to actually
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: build it. With this package, we can cut that time
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: nearly in half. As long as the developers do what
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: they're supposed to, follow the rules, they have a predictable
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: timeline under this bill. And it means it can be
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: done somewhat cheaper, much more efficient, and less hassles with
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: absurd litigation that you see so constantly around any energy project,
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: renewable or fossil fuel.
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: That is really good news. It is surprising that Congress
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: is able to actually get something like that passed and done,
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: and you guys have been talking about permitting reform for
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: a very long time, so it's finally coming to fruition.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: This sounds like it's going to open up the floodgates
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: to allow a heck of a lot more energy to
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: be sunk in and invested in across the nation.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: I really think this is... Permitting at the federal level
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: is a massive choke point, and a lot of it,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: a lot of this bill clears a lot of those
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: hurdles and creates very specific timelines that all... projects need
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: to follow and all federal agencies need to follow. And
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: with those in play, it changes the game. And the
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: great part about this is it's not like it's much
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: different from what the original or past attempts like Manchin-Barasso
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: permitting reforms, because this was done by Senator Sheldon Whitehouse,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: Martin Heinrich, Mike Lee, and Senator Capito. It's not really
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: the most moderate of either side of their caucus, right?
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: They're both relatively conservative and or progressive, client hawks with
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: regards to Sheldon Whitehouse. And if they can find middle
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: ground as good as they have, it's a damn good bill,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: like I keep saying. And, of course, you're going to
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: get some, honestly, idiots who are saying, oh, we need
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: to renegotiate this bill, looking at you, Representative Jared Huffman.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: when Democrats potentially retake the House to better their leverage
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: and all that nonsense. And that's stupid. And I'm sure
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: you'll see more of that. But this is the bill
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: that everyone's got to jump on the bandwagon and push through.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is really good. Talk about some of the
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: obstacles that's led up to the point to actually get
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: this thing onto the desk of Congress and actually get
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: voted on. The environmental regulations, the regulatory permitting issues. I mean,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: what's been the conversation behind the scenes for as long
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: as we've been working on trying to get this done?
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: There's so many issues. It can take four to five
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: years just to get your average run-of-the-mill energy project permit
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: from the federal level, which is way too long. Permits
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: can be open-ended, as it stands right now. So what
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: should take maybe one to two years can take up
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: to 10. Then you have absurdly low floors of litigation.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: So people who are not suffering any kind of direct
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: harm or even indirect harm and just frankly... may not
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: like a project because it interferes with their recreational activity.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: So if you have a fishing spot or you like
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: to just go to see the mountains and this project
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: may interrupt that, you have grounds to file suit. And
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: that's dumb.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 10: Like, come on.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: If you want to get things done, that's fair. I
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: want to protect the environment. I'm an outdoorsman. I go
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: out hunting, fishing. I don't want to see those pristine
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: environments ruined when they don't have to be. But there's
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: a balance between protecting the environment and actually letting us
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: build and lower the prices for everybody around us as well.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: So.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: That's what this bill, I think, really accomplishes. And on
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: top of that, you can finally get through these crazy
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: processes where, like I said, predictability is huge, which means
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: less costs. And less costs always slow down, at least
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: when it comes to energy, because we pay for the
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: infrastructure we use. And if we're paying more than we
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: have to because developers have to go through extra hoops,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: we're the ones on the hook.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: What a wild time. Let's tie that into just this.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: I love how the timing of this always happens. And
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump's a master at this, being able to lay
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: out a timing on announcements of big projects that he's
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: been working on with this permitting reform bill going through
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Congress with the announcement of the data and AI centers
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: from the tech industry just a few days ago. And
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: let's go to China for just a moment with their
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: meeting last week with President Xi Jinping. And I know
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: that energy has been a conversation with them. As well,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: and as we do this artificial, I'm sorry, super intelligence
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: race between the two nations on who's got superior technology,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: how does China fall into this play and what does
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: that mean for energy here in the.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: U.S.? Well, fortunately, right now we're seeing a detente in
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: sense and there's going to be some reductions in tariffs
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: for some goods.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 8: But it's a good.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: Deal because as of right now, we are unfortunately quite
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: reliant on the Chinese extraction and refining of rare earth minerals.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: we need we need them for everything whether it's a
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: billion products like your phone solar panels evs anything with
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: a lithium battery essentially or military tech we're pretty reliant
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: on them and that means they could put on export
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: controls but as we're getting a little closer with that
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: and obviously it's pretty clear that our a.i. tech developed
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: in the u.s. is definitely advanced out of the majority
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: of the world i think we have the most compute
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: compared i've seen a couple charts highlighting that and china's
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: obviously trying to catch up But it's really good to
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: see kind of this coming together.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 8: But that means it could.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: Be lower energy price in the future as we rebuild
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: our own domestic supply chain. For example, I think it
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: was Operation Vault, the effort to build our own natural
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: supply chains and our own strategic reserves of gray earth
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: minerals is doing pretty well. We're already building a pretty
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: solid stockpile as well, in case trade wars do flare up, especially,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: or if the CCP feels somehow threatened by our protection
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: of Taiwan or something of that nature. So we have
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: a backstop. And that's been doing pretty well as well.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: It's not as much highlighted as well, but it's really
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: creating a nice little insulation. So there's a lot of
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: good policies around doing that. But like I said, making
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: it easier to get through permanent reform means we can
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: get better mines, better refinery, and be less reliant. So
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: it all flows in together.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: Well, it does. And at the same time, we heard
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: the announcement this week of the Trump admin as well
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: with the largest steel mill going into Iowa, too, because
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: we're taking in some of that iron ore. We're turning
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: it into the steel mill there and producing it. We're
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: importing less of those raw materials that you just mentioned
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: from Canada and from China. And we're going to start
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: producing more of it here on the home front. All
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: of this ties in together and it's all happening at
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: the same time, which is really exciting.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always funny how things seem to happen right
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  Speaker 4: before an election.
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  Speaker 2: Funny how that works.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, who would have thought? But it's good to see
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  Speaker 4: some of these. More domestic investments are always good. It's
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: good to see more companies building in the U.S. You
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: want to see that. I mean, there's good jobs coming.
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  Speaker 4: And as much as possible, the administration is clearing the
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: road for better development investments and making us more competitive
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: while not sacrificing our securities as well. And that's always
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: an important goal. But more importantly, we want to make
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: sure energy is affordable and we're not doing anything any
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: more self-inflicted wounds than we have to. And that's always hard,
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  Speaker 4: but that's the.
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  Speaker 8: Goal at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking with James Maroney. He is a policy analyst
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: over at Americans for Prosperity, americansforprosperity.org. During the announcement yesterday
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: from Trump with his push on the pipeline up in
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: Alaska for natural gas, but also the announcement was more
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: than eight different nuclear sites being built, I believe, in
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: the state of Texas and around that state. Is that
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: the future of energy, do you think? And as we
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: look at the oil and natural gas that we're doing
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: the permitting reforms on to try and make it easier
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: to drill into frack, at the same time, this new
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: investment in nuclear that has not been talked about for
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: decades and everybody's been too scared to look at nuclear
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: for so long, is.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: That the future, do you think? I, as a nuclear
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: nerd and a lover of nuclear energy, God, I hope
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: it is. I want to see more reactors everywhere. Give
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: me more SMRs. Even if you do old heavy water
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: or light water reactors, like you'd see something out of
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: like the Simpsons. I'd love more of those that can
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: help bolster a town and create jobs permanent and short
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: term as well. But I think if I remember right,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: TVA is now building their first SMR within the region.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: And that's huge to put some of these concepts into
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: pure commercial testing and making sure they're, well, useful. And
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: that means the more nuclear reactors we get, we can
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: actually solve our fuel issues because without relying on foreign
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: sources such as Russia, who provides a lot of the
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: raw materials needed for the plutonium and the fuel rods
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: we need, We can create our own infrastructure by sending
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: the right market demand signals as well. So more reactors
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: come online means more fuel, and more fuel means more
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: people are going to jump into that business. And we're
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: starting to see that, but we need more of these
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: reactors to come online to kind of kickstart the market.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: Well, that's cool. That's a long-term investment for sure on
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: that one. Which last question for you? Let's go to
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: Iran and Russia and China for just a moment again
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: with the Strait of Hormuz, the oil prices that we're
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: seeing in energy overall that's been affected by that global
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: market right now. We just heard the announcement. that Donald
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: Trump kicked out the negotiators for the nation of Iran
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: and we could potentially see some type of strikes begin again.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: What's the future of that look like and how much
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: is that actually affecting our markets here on the home
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: front when we are working, obviously, in the long term
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: to be more sustainable on our own?
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: Well, we're just starting to see, at least as far
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: as I can tell from the accounts I follow and
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: the people who can track that stuff with tankers and
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: all that, we're starting to see, I think, roughly between 85%
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: to 90% of what was coming out pre-war for at
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: least in crude oil, which is a great thing to see,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: but it's not going to dramatically impact anything off the top.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: The big issue with diesel is not so much the supply,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: even though that is adding another pain point. It's much
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: more so the ability to refine it. So a big
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: refiner of diesel prior... to all. of this was Russia,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: and their facilities have been hit plus sanctions, so that
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: already propped up diesel price in the U.S.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 8: Earlier.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: So that was a big chunk. Add in to now
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: that refineries in the Middle East have been under siege
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: because of the conflict, and as well as many refiners
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: in the U.S. either had some issues or they're just
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: kind of getting back online and as well as many
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: were closed because some states in their green mandates have
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: forced us into closing them, which has now led us
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: to no really cushion that we're seeing right now. So
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: hopefully we're going to see, hopefully the crude oil supplies
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: helps come back and we can kind of restock and
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: hopefully just typical gas prices will come down in the next, God,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know, it's hard to tell. Hopefully by 2027,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: it's very hard to predict this stuff.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's up in the air. There's a lot of
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: impact on that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: If they can keep it 85% of what was pre-war,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: they'll be able to get the supplies and costs will
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: eventually come down. But because supplies have gotten so razor thin,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: it's going to take time. We're past that point, past
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: the midterms, which probably doesn't help Iran's leverage because whatever
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: happened in the midterms is well baked in by this point.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: So I don't know what they're going to do. try
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: to threaten at this point there's still two years of
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: trump regardless of who's in congress.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Sure well that's a great point well it seems like
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: the past administration this was the intention is to drain
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: our reserves to drain what we had to be more
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: reliable on the global market and then gee i wonder
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: why we're out of reserves we can't be a little
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: bit more self-sustaining and we have to pay more and
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: our gas prices go up across the board which is
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: absolutely insane james roney our friends over at americans for
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: prosperity americans for prosperity is the website. We always appreciate it,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: my friend. Thank you for the update. Keep up the fight.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: We'll do it again soon.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: Thanks so much. I always love to talk energy.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Hey, you betcha. We'll appreciate it. We'll do it again.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Until then, let's take your phone calls when we come
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: back around the corner here on the Todd Starnes Radio Program.
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• 1:11:16
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• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: Thanks again to James Maroney on the program with Americans
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: for Prosperity, the energy policy, which I find interesting. You
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: know what I find really interesting is, of course, it's
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: political rhetoric. It's for the midterm season, of course, but...
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: At the same time, when Donald Trump announces a new
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: investment for a manufacturing plant or the steel mill that's
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: going to be in Iowa, the largest one in the country,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: by refining that iron ore that we're mining in the
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: nation right here on our home front domestically and then
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: refining it at the steel mill, that's all good news.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: Or when we have the announcement of data centers and
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: the AI stuff that's going on in the future of technology,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump makes all these big announcements and then Democrats
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: get mad and probably because they didn't think of it first,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: or they didn't have the opportunity for it first. But instead,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: they blame Donald Trump that he's actually blending the line
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: between the private sector and the public sector, and that
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: he's the most corrupt president in modern American history. In fact,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: That was the argument by the Democrat senator on the
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: campaign trail right now, Elisa, what's her name, Slotkins? I
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: believe that she was out there and just railing on
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: President Donald Trump.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 14: At this point, Donald Trump is on track to be
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 14: the most successful corrupt leader in the world's history. Wow.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 14: Best estimates are that he and his family have increased
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 14: their net worth by more than $ 3. 5 billion. Add to
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 14: that the sheer number of federal contracts thrown to Trump
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 14: friends and family, and the true scale will take years
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 14: to unearth. We're at the very tip of the iceberg.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 14: Quick aside, at the CIA, I was an Iraq specialist.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 14: I spent a lot of time in Baghdad. Let me
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 14: just say Saddam Hussein would have spit out his tea
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 14: at the level of corruption Trump and his family are
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 14: currently engaged in. Palaces and golden ballrooms and arches dedicated
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 14: to himself. Saddam would have been green with envy.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, there's a lot to break down on that one.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: But that's the insanity of the day. You might want
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: to cover up your TDS is showing. And Slotkin's apparently
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: just going on scorched earth against President Trump, thinking that's
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: going to be the proper campaign tactic for the midterms.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: But a lot to break down there. Look, there are
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: some policies that I probably disagree with on the Trump administration.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: And I am one that does not like to blend
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: the private sector and the public sector together because that's
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: never a good flavor when government gets to regulate and
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: oversee particular industries. That being said, very few of the
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: announcements that the Trump administration has done has been like that.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: They announced the new project because there's been tax incentives,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: because there has been a deregulation like the permitting reform
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: that we just talked about. There's been opportunity for businesses
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: to see an opportunity to hire more American workers, generate
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: a product, and create some wealth from that. And because
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: of that, we get to announce it as a win
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: for the America First agenda. How that turns into corruption?
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: That's kind of wild. We've got lots more to get
• 1:14:06
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• 1:15:00
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• 1:15:05
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• 1:15:17
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• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: some other big stories that have been happening throughout this
• 1:15:23
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• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: And an interesting one at that, we're going to have
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: a bit of a roundtable all throughout this hour because
• 1:15:29
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• 1:15:34
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• 1:15:35
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• 1:15:43
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• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: We're going to talk about the ongoing issues with the
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: Middle East, and is it another sign of the end
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: of times prophecies, the return of Jesus, and the rise
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: of the Antichrist in society? Say what? Yeah, so we'll
• 1:16:00
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• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: I know that we have not talked about it the
• 1:16:04
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• 1:16:07
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• 1:16:10
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• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: we're the experts on that program now, so we're going
• 1:16:16
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• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: interview and some new information of potential releases of the
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: document dumps that will be coming from the Trump administration
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: within the next year or two. regarding the juicy stuff,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: the really good UFO, UAP, and extraterrestrial information. So we'll
• 1:16:32
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• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: But first, your phone calls at 901-260-5926. We have been
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: following the midterm season with Chuck Schumer with Congress back
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: in action and the Democrats that are looking to try
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: and at least pretend to have a unified caucus. Chuck
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: Schumer was speaking earlier today at their Democrat press conference
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: in D.C. on where they're at with some of these
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: bills and ended up saying this.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 11: Have you become too toxic to lead your party?
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: If you didn't hear that, the question was, have you become,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: as Chuck Schumer, have you become too toxic to lead
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: the Democrat party?
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  Speaker 11: Look, our caucus is totally unified. We're in great shape.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 11: Everyone is really very, very pleased with where we are
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 11: today compared to where we were. Uh-huh. 20 months ago
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 11: yeah under our leadership and we're fighting hard and we're
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 11: on the edge of taking back the senate.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah good luck with that buddy can you smell it
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: can you sense the fakeness in there now this is
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: almost borderline chuck schumer on fourth of july taking a
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: selfie with him at the grill with a piece of
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: cheese on a raw burger patty fake we're like i'm
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: relatable just like you like that's what chuck schumer is
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: really good at but could you sense it he's not
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: a very energetic person exciting optimistic kind of guy but
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: the emphasis in his voice he's like we are united
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: we're excited things are going to be great.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 11: Look our our caucus is totally unified we're in great
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 11: shape great shape everyone is really very very pleased with
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 11: where we are today compared to where we were.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: All right we're very pleased it's really great everything's going
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: great guys Please believe me. Yeah, that's Chuck Schumer. That's
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: what's happening on the campaign trail. Do you actually believe him?
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know that I do, but he's interesting nonetheless.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: I really want him to take another photo of the
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: raw burger patty because that was great. Well done. All right,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: I got to bring in the roundtable here. So Ian, Helen, Dylan,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: I want all you guys to jump on if you
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: get a chance because I have to pick your brain
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: on this one. I got to bring up the story.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: I don't believe that you guys there in Tennessee have
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: been part of this. Oh, yes, you have actually. How
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: familiar are you guys with the product of Kratom? Do
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: you know a whole lot about Kratom?
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: No, I personally don't know anything about Kratom.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: Okay. Helen, anything with you?
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: I have no idea. I'm Googling it.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: No idea. Ian, you, nothing?
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: I've never heard of it.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: Really? You've never heard of Kratom? All I'm thinking is creatine.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: Wait, I've heard of Kratom recently because of the Oxford situation.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's where I want to go with this for
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: a moment. Okay, so the Kratom, but this is a
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: great learning lesson here because this is why I'm very
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: frustrated because And I hate, hate hearing these stories. And listener,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: I know that you're probably going to get mad at me.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: Maybe some of you will agree or disagree with me here.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: But look, I am one where I like as many
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: natural things as possible. I do not like taking pharmaceuticals.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not into the big pharmaceutical thing. I'm not anti-vax,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: although I am limited vaccines. I think we take way
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: too many of them. But I like natural remedies more
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: so than holistic remedies. My wife, full disclaimer, my wife
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: is a master herbalist. She makes... medicines by herbal tinctures
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: and plants, not CBD stuff or marijuana stuff. Very clear.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: She does not do any of that stuff, but natural
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: herbs and plants, magnesium and what eucalyptus can do and
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: what lavenders can do and what dandelions can do, those
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: sorts of things. She's way better at it than I
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: even understand. Nonetheless, Kratom, this is a great lesson for
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: you guys because Tennessee, you guys have banned any Kratom
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: products in Tennessee. Did you know that?
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: I know that now because I just Googled it.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: All right. Kansas, we just did it in our last
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: legislative session as well. So there are 11 states that
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: have fully banned Kratom. That is Alabama, Arkansas, Connecticut, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Massachusetts,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: North Dakota, Tennessee, Vermont, and Wisconsin. Those are the 11
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: states now. Other states have talked about it as well.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: Rhode Island previously banned it, but then reversed that ban
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: in their latest regulatory framework. The reason is, for those
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: that don't know, okay, let's start off at the is
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: nothing more than a leaf off of a tree that
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: grows in Asia. That's all it is. That is the
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: natural kratom. Now in there, and what it's done is
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: it's dried out and it's made into either a pill
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: form where you can take it as a supplement pill,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: or you can dry it out, make it into a
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: powder and you can put it in drinks and like
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: mix it in your water or something. And there's different
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: types of kratom. There's some to give you energy. There's
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: some to make you go to sleep. There's some that
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: help with pain management. And it's not like an opiate
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: where you get any type of effects or any kind of,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: you know, clutter in your mind or psychedelic experience or
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: anything like that. There's different types of kratom. And I
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: will admit, I have a buttload of it sitting at
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: home because before they banned it, when that effect turned
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: out in July 1 this year in Kansas, I went
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: and I stocked up on as much of it as
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: I possibly could. Because my wife, who has lupus, by
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: the way, so she gets flare-ups with her lupus. People
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: understand that. No, she hates taking opiates. She hates taking
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: a Percocet or a Vicodin or these pain meds. When
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: she gets a flare and she hurts and her body
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: aches from her lupus, she takes kratom. Now, for the natural, original,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: holistic version of this, you cannot overdose on kratom. I'm
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: here to tell you right now, you just can't do it.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: If you take it in the pill form of the
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: natural plant, you have to take six to seven tablets
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: of it that's equivalent to like two Tylenol. So tell
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: me if you're going to try to overdose on this,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: there are way easier ways to do that. If you're
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: trying to get some type of effect, there are way
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: easier to do that than taking 40 pills and downing
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: those and trying to get some type of effect. It
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: just doesn't work. The reason states are banning this, and
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: this is why I want you guys' input as the
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: younger gen in the vaping thing right now, is because,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: of course, when there's an opportunity, just like when marijuana
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: came to be a popular thing, they went from the
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: natural bud of a marijuana plant to the CBD or
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: to the THC portion of it, I guess that's the
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: psychedelic part, the THC, and they made it a synthetic
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: version and they made it more concentrated. There's a compound
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: in kratom known as 7-OH, which is the compound that
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: has these effects that you have. In the natural plant,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: people don't know this, in the natural plant, there is
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: less than 2% of this 7-OH compound in the herb
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: or in the plant. What they've done though, is they've
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: taken it, they've concentrated the 7-OH compound And they've put
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: it in a vape for young kids to vape. And
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: they get it at gas stations. The story, as you mentioned, Ian,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: is the story that we're following here out of Oxford,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: where two students at, or I'm sorry, at Ole Miss,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: where two students just ended up dying from taking what
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: they say is Kratom. They didn't die from Kratom. They
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: probably died with something else in their system. And now
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: the headline we just saw today from Fox News is
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: the gas station attendant that sold it, or the clerks,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: that were selling these vapes with these concentrated forms has
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: now been arrested on drug charges. So we're not talking
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: about the natural plant. We're talking about a synthetic version
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: of a 7-OH compound while demonizing with these stories, probably
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: because of big pharma, demonizing Kratom as a whole to
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: where people don't know what's going on and just ban
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: the full thing outright. So I ask you guys on
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: the vape side, is that vapes? I don't get it.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: I don't understand. I'm still a, you know, cigar and
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: tobacco pipe kind of guy. You know, that's what I enjoy.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: I have my humidor at home. I enjoy a few
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: cigars and stogies on occasion. But what's the deal with vapes?
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: And do you guys know actually what's in vapes if
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: the young gen's actually out there buying them?
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 6: I'm the wrong person to ask.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: I've actually never vaped.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 7: In my life.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: You've never vaped? Well, I guess that's probably a good thing, right?
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: I'm saying that on the radio station where Todd is listening.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 7: No, I'm kidding.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 6: I'm calling this segment Andy Hoosier teaches K-Way staff about drugs.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Todd's going to hear
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: that one and be like, hold.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: On, wait a second.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: I love that. But look, does that make sense? I mean, look,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: there's a basic difference between the natural stuff and the
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: synthetic version. I'm all for banning the synthetic versions on
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: why we have these in the first place, but don't
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: demonize the natural alternatives here.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: And I think that comes from just a misunderstanding of
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: a headline maybe. And, you know, seeing something like, Two
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: students dying. People are obviously going to go to the
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: extreme of like, all right, well, we should just ban
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: the whole thing without even understanding what it is. So, no,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: vaping is still definitely a big thing in Gen Z.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: I don't do it. I have friends that do it.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: I don't get it. I mean, obviously, it's not good
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: for you, but I understand why people do it. I mean,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: you get that hit and your brain stimulated all the
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: fun stuff. But, you know, people will be selling that
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: stuff in the gas stations like we see there. I
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: wonder if the kid even knew what he was being
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: sold or if this was just like a, hey, try this.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: Well, it's very addictive. The actual 708 compound is very addictive,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: and I get it. But you're right. People don't understand.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: Even legislators who are banning these issues do not know
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: the difference here. I've talked to, and being the vice
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: chair for the Kansas Republican Party out here, I've talked
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: to probably half of our state delegation, and I've tried
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: to advocate against them banning this Kratom product. Even after
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: all the hearings they had— No one knew the difference
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: between the synthetic versions and the natural kratom. No one
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: knew that there was essentially zero of that 70H compound
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: in there. No one knew that. All they heard was
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: testimony from law enforcement saying that people are getting addicted,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: that people are having health issues, that people are going
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: crazy because of this psychedelic or this really potent drug
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: of 70H compound. No one knew that that was the
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: synthetic crap and not the natural versions of these things,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: that we don't need to go after the natural versions,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: that for many people... is the alternative. My wife still
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: takes Kratom because when she has her flare-up for her lupus,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: that helps her than taking a Percocet and numbing her
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: entire body and being a lush for the entire night
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: because of some type of pharmaceutical pain med. We would
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: much rather do that. Why we go after these natural pills,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: it just drives me nuts. But you guys are the
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: prime example. I mean, the fact that no one even
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: knows Kratom, this is kind of the underlying issue in
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: this battle with big pharma where they just dominate the industry.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 6: Is this just the classic situation of government officials making
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: laws about a subject matter, which they're very unaware of
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 6: the actual function in the actual topics?
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. 100%. I'm curious. Listener, what do you think?
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 5: 901-260-5926.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: Have you tried Kratom? Is it something that you would
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: be willing to try? And if you're trying to get
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: off of pharmaceuticals, is that way to go? And are
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: we really understanding what's going on with Kratom? The reason,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: by the way, they try to ban these natural products
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: too is because obviously if it's a leaf, if it's
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: an herb, if it's a plant, then every one of
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: them has a different consistency to it, right? So one
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: could be 2.5%, another one could be 0.5% of the
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: 70H compound because it's natural, so it's nothing that's actually
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: made in a consistent form synthetically, which is why most
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: doctors don't like natural medicine, which is why most pharmaceuticals
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: don't like natural medicine, and why they say that you
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: can't rely on that stuff because you don't know how
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: effective or ineffective it may be, at that same time,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, it's essentially near impossible for you to
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: actually have negative effects from Kratom itself in its original form.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: I want your thoughts. 901-260-5926. The battle against Big Pharma
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: continues on, and we'll talk some more about this when
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: we come back right here on the Todd Starnes Radio Program.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: Welcome back into it. It is the Todd Starnes Radio Program.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: I'm Andy Hoosier sitting in today, 901-260-5926. Drug Talk on
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: the Todd Starnes Radio Program. As we have the roundtable,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: Ian and Dylan and Helen all sitting back there at
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: the KWAM studios in Memphis, Tennessee. And look, I mean,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: I'm glad we had this conversation because we've really come
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: down to realizing the natural forms really have no harm.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: You know, we talk about the marijuana issue for a moment, which,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: by the way, Tennessee, do you guys legalize marijuana back there?
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: Is that a thing now in Tennessee?
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I don't think we legalize it.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 10: Oh, really?
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay. I know there's only a couple.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: Might be another Google search.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to do another Google search on that one.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: I know Kansas, there's only like two or three states
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: that haven't done it either medically or recreationally in some fashion.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: Kansas here, we have not done either. We're one of
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: those very rare few ones that haven't. So it would
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: make sense that I guess our people would want to
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: ban Kratom too because evil natural things. And of course,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: we didn't even legalize the sale of alcohol on Sundays
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: in like 10 years ago. So we're, we're kind of
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: behind the eight ball on some of these issues, but nonetheless,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: marijuana is another great example, whether you like marijuana, disagree
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: with marijuana, it doesn't really matter, but you know, people
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: talk about how much, how much more potent it is
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: and how different it is compared to, you know, the
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: older generation that did it back in the seventies at
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: a Led Zeppelin concert kind of thing. Yeah, you know,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: the synthetic versions, again, they've been able to make the
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: THC stronger. There are now THC vapes in the concentrated
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: liquids that people are doing that are like 99% potent
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: of THC. That's going to give you brain damage. What
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: the hell's wrong with you? Why would you do something
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: like that? But on the other hand, the natural stuff
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: is still the natural thing. And there's got to be
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: a conversation about the war on drugs. There's got to be,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: at least in my opinion, maybe I'm popular with this crowd,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but There's got to be a conversation
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: about the idea that if we're going to fight the
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: cartels like we had with our guest a couple hours
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: ago on the show, and we talk about ways to
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: do things domestically here, the issue's never going to go away.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: The product's never going to go away. So if it
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: is going to be here, I would rather know exactly
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: where it's grown with a farmer that's raising cattle over
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: here and marijuana plants over here, where we know where
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: it's grown, we know how it's processed, we know the
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: store that it's sold in, and therefore we know there's
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: nothing crazy in it, like they're trying to lace with
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: fentanyl or a cartel coming across the border, making it
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: more addictive, or even the synthetic version. Personally, if it's
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: going to be here, that's the process I would rather have.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: That may be unpopular and people are like, we don't
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: want it at all. I wouldn't like to see it
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: at all either. But at the same time, that's an
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: unrealistic expectation for us to have. We have to have
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: that rational conversation. And I know that the generational difference
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: on issues like drugs is pretty dramatic. The older generations,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: they want nothing to do with it. My generation as
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: a millennial, You know, we're open to the ideas and
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: we're the first ones that started saying, hey, maybe we
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: should start legalizing this because it's kind of ridiculous that
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: we're throwing people in jail for marijuana use. And then
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: we got the young generation that's all about the vapes
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: and like the synthetic concentrated weird forms of it on
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: that front. Which, by the way, guys, did you know
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: that now there's a story that actually because of the
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: fear of the addictiveness and how harm it is for
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: your lungs with the vaping, cigarettes are now becoming more
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: popular again?
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: Why am I not surprised? They took vaping too far.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: Now we have to go back to cigarettes.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: We're going to go back to cigarettes. Look, I've never
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: been addicted to cigarettes either. I hate the smell of cigarettes.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: I hate the taste of cigarettes. So I'm a cigar guy.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: I'll do cigars all day long because it's just literally
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: a dried natural plant rolled up and smoked that way.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: But yeah, apparently we went so far of evil tobacco company,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: evil cigarettes that we're going to go vaping because now
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: you can have the fruity, you know, cotton candy flavored
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: vapes on there. But that's harming people so badly, and
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: we're now campaigning against that, that they're looking for something else,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: and now we're going back to cigarettes. So I don't
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: know how big that's going to be. But look, if
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: you're going to do something, do it natural. Why not?
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, I will sit back, and I haven't done
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: it in a long time. I just don't have time
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: to sit for an hour and smoke a really long
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: cigar and a stogie on there. But between that or
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: a pipe tobacco, I got to tell you, man, pipe
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: tobacco is delicious. It smells so good. My wife even
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: likes the smell of that stuff.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: It's also classier.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: It is very classy. I have a Gandalf pipe that's
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: about two feet long and it's amazing. So when I
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: do smoke my pipe tobacco and yes, it is tobacco.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: It is nothing else. It's not the wacky tobacco. It's
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: literally just pipe tobacco. What is it? Captain Black is
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: the brand. So there, you know, I'm telling the truth.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: I even know the brand of what I get. Then
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: I put that in my long two foot long Gandalf
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: pipe and it's amazing. I really enjoy that.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: I feel like you need like a robe and maybe
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: like a staff to go with that too. Like why not?
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: Well, I do carry it with me when I go
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: to my Renaissance festivals. And I have my kilt that
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: I wear and I have my horn, my drinking horn
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: where I put my mead in there. And then I
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: have my pipe and that is my costume for the
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: Renaissance festival. Among other places too when I get funky looks.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: May or may not show up to political events that
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: way too. Very interesting. When we come, we're going to
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: go down a fun road as well. We're going to
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: speculate on end-of-time prophecies. Mark Davidson, he'll be joining us
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: here on the Todd Starnes Radio Program. Lots more coming up.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: Stay here. All right, welcome back to the Todd Stearns
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: Radio Show. Andy Hoosier sitting in today. ToddStearns.com is the website.
• 1:33:06
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• 1:33:08
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• 1:33:13
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• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: Stearns Radio Program and the flagship for my national program
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: as well. This show has gone off the rails, man.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: And Todd's going to look back on this and be like,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: what the heck is happening while we're in California? But
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: it's been a great conversation. I think hopefully it's been
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: somewhat educational. for people that are listening to this one.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: But speaking of, let's go down the road of speculation here,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: shall we? I'm really excited to have our next guest
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: on here as we go to the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker Hotline.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: He is the author of the latest book, Daniel Revisited,
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: discovering the four Mideast signs leading to the Antichrist. Are
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: we seeing the end of times prophecies happen? before our eyes.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: We are following, by the way, some of the stories
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: regarding Iran and the lingering conflict going there. Does that
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: have anything to do with it? And what the heck
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: else is going on around the world? Really happy to
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: have on here Mr. Mark Davidson. Mark, how are you,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: my friend?
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  Speaker 10: Oh, I'm doing fine. Thanks for having me, Andy.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, great to have you on the program here for
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: the Todd Starnes Show. Let's talk about what's going on
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: in the Middle East. And as we look at the
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: current events, we look at world events, and then we
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: even hear about like the doomsday clock where we tick closer,
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: you know, one second closer every year to the end
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: of times and everything else. Are we, in your opinion,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: are we actually getting closer to the end of times,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: the rising of the Antichrist and the revealing of Jesus again?
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 10: Yes, we are. But the message that I wrote in
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 10: the book is non-traditional. It's very different. And it so
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 10: happens that this whole Iran war is sort of a
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 10: precursor to the second of four events.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting. So before we talk about the events coming, let's
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: talk about, in your opinion, the leading up to some
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: of that speculation, how we got to the point that
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: we're at right now?
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 10: As far as events go or as far as how
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 10: the message is put together?
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: Both. Yeah, both of them and how they tie in together.
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  Speaker 12: All right.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 10: Well, that'll be good. So the way the message worked
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 10: is 9-11 happened. We're talking about the 9-11 25 years ago.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 10: And it just hit me. I felt like I was
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 10: missing something. It's like, you know, asking the Lord for wisdom, saying...
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 10: you know, hey, prophecy teachers, they don't teach they're supposed
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 10: to fly planes into our buildings. What's going on? So
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 10: I asked him, you know, for his plans. What's going on, Lord?
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 10: And he put me on a path of research. And
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 10: this path of research led to some very strange places.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 10: So I just decided to start reading the Bible just
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 10: without any assumptions. I mean, I know that's hard to
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 10: do as humans, but I tried to do it without
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 10: any assumptions. And the first thing that led to was, well,
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 10: let me skip to the end here. 16 months after 9-11,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 10: I arrived at this framework. And it involved an Islamic antichrist,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 10: believe it or not. You have to understand true history
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 10: to understand what light is being shown on Daniel to
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 10: tell us which direction to go down. And Daniel chapter
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 10: 12 tells us that the prophetic message is sealed, is
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 10: tapped up like water in a spring until the end time.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 10: So most of our teachings today might be a bit off.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 10: So with the Islamic Antichrist in mind, I reread Scripture again,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 10: and Daniel 7, Daniel 8, Daniel 7, the four beasts,
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 10: Daniel 8, the ram and goat, Revelation 6, the four horsemen,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 10: all come together to form the same four events. So
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 10: 16 months after 9-11, around January of 2003, I arrive
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 10: at this framework, this theory, if you will. And the
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 10: first event said that the end-time government of Mesopotamia, which
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 10: was Iraq, which is Iraq, uh, if government is going
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 10: to change from something brutal to something civilized. And I thought, well,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 10: in the 2,500 year history since Nebuchadnezzar, that's never happened.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 10: There has been brutal, some King, some dictator, some Caliph,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 10: you know, didn't matter. So I thought I was wrong.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 10: I thought, well, this is an interesting little, you know,
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 10: side task. Let's, let's see what, let's see what, uh,
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 10: maybe I, where I went wrong. And, uh, So I
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 10: put it on the shelf. Two weeks later, President George W.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 10: Bush got on the TV and said in February 2003,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 10: we're going to go into Iraq, remove Saddam Hussein, and
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 10: put in a democracy. I don't know how much of
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 10: your audience remembers that.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: And the purple fingers and the voting at the Constitution
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: and everything else. Yep.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 10: They went from Saddam Hussein killing at will to, yeah,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 10: voting and a parliament.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 10: You know?
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 11: And.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 10: It turned out those two years, 2003 to 2005, fulfilled
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 10: to the letter, not just sort of, not just kind
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 10: of arching over, but to the letter, the scriptural passages
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 10: pertaining to that first event. So I thought, wow, I'm
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 10: on to something.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: Well, at the same time, just to stop you right
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: there for just a moment, then we heard the announcement yesterday,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: the Trump administration fully removing our forces from the nation
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: of Iraq because we feel confident that most of the
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: extremism is out of that nation. So that seems to
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: be completed as of yesterday.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 10: That's right. Actually, Andy, it was actually completed in 2011.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 10: We pulled out, but then Obama brought them back in
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 10: in 2014 to fight ISIS. And now we're pulling out
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 10: a second time. But yeah, I hear you. No, that
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 10: is pretty wild.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 5: So yeah, U.S.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 10: Troops are now out. The force that made the lion
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 10: stand and the force that made the lion's mind change
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 10: is dumb. So good point bringing that up. So I
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 10: realized I had to research all this, get it all,
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 10: all the points connected, all the dots connected. By the way,
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 10: I make my living as a rocket scientist. I've retired now. But, yeah,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 10: I love a good puzzle and a lot of analysis
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 10: and dot connecting. So ancient medieval history connected with scripture,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 10: connected with geopolitics, and it practically wrote itself on a
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 10: geopolitical part. But the second event is this, and again,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 10: I discovered this 23 years ago, and the book came
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 10: out 12 years ago, and that is this. The second
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 10: event is Iran is going to take away the peace
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 10: of mind of the entire Earth, and that peace of
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 10: mind is the kind of peace of mind you get
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 10: from being able to put food on the table. So people,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 10: millions of people in the world over, may find themselves
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 10: without a means of putting food on the table. Panicking,
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 10: in other words. And the second thing Iran is going
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 10: to do is they're going to carry out their mission,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 10: carry out what they want to do as their Twelver
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 10: Shia community, and that is to conquer the Muslim nations
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 10: of the Middle East, occupy them, and form one big
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 10: community waiting for their Mahdi, who is our Antichrist.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, so.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: So the Cold War, that's where that point is. So
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: when we start seeing this unified message coming out, and
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: now we have Iran, which is obviously disrupting a lot
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: of stuff, but they are one of the last extremist
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: groups in countries in the Middle East right now. From
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: what you've speculated, is there a unified message behind a
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: particular individual that could see that rise, or is that
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: yet to be determined?
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 10: Well, we are still waiting to see the rise. We're
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 10: seeing the setups. In other words, Iran has essentially, you know,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 10: I hate to use the word as an American, but
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 10: essentially defeated us, at least up to this point. The
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 10: regime is still there. The Strait of Hormuz is still closed.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 10: Our bases around the Persian Gulf have been destroyed. We
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 10: can't use them. The Fifth Navy pulled out of the
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 10: Persian Gulf. If they wanted to conquer the Middle East,
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 10: if they wanted to run their troops through countries, you know,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 10: they would be very much afraid of the United States.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 10: In fact, I've had critics over the years say, oh,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 10: that would never happen.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 5: The U.S.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 10: Would never allow it. I believe Iran drew us in
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 10: in order to goad us, to attack them, so that
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 10: we'd kind of spend ourselves on their targets and mountains. But, yeah,
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 10: so they would have to get rid of the U.S. military.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 10: How do you do that? Well, the Iran war, I think,
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 10: did it kind of effectively. We still have aircraft carryout
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 10: on the Arabian Sea. We still have the use of
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 10: our Jordanian bases. So we'll see. But Iran has threatened,
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 10: if you attack us again, we're going to destroy the
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 10: rest of the Arab oil infrastructure. You cut off one-fourth
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 10: of the world's oil right there, and you're talking hundreds
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 10: of dollars per barrel of oil, gasoline, diesel. We thought
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 10: the prices we see are high. I mean, wait until
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 10: you hit $ 15, $ 20 a gallon if you can get it.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 10: I mean, we're talking loss of the peace of mind
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 10: of the earth. And there's different countries that are already
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 10: seeing this. Philippines, Vietnam, they start right off the bat,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 10: and now Europe is getting it.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: It's an interesting concept for sure, and hopefully we never
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: get to that point. We'll see whether that actually does
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: or not, and based on the prophecy that you're predicting here,
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: it very well could. With the state that we're in
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: right now, and with Donald Trump now essentially firing up
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: some of the strikes against them again, do you see
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: a potential peacefulness of an eradication of that government, either
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: by us or by the original Persian people in the
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: nation of Iran?
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 10: No, this framework calls for actually Turkey.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 8: To end the regime.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 10: That Iran would do what it does in the second signpost.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 10: And then the third signpost involves Turkey leading Sunni nations,
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 10: a confederacy of four nations, to go against Iran and
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 10: to finish off the regime. And that's the third signpost. And,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 10: of course, the second and third signposts basically boils down
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 10: to a giant Sunni-Shia war and redrawing the boundaries of
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 10: the Middle East. And this is all within Islam, like
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 10: the four horsemen tell us, white, red, black, green. Those
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 10: are the colors of Islam. They're given authority over a
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 10: quarter of the earth. That's Islam, a quarter of the people,
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 10: a quarter of the nation, etc. So, again, it's all Islam.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: It's a very interesting theory for sure. We're talking with
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: Mark Davidson, author of the book Daniel Revisited, Discovering the
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: Four Midi Signs Leading to the Antichrist. With the study
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: that you've done and the speculation that you have on
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: the timeline here, when do you potentially see this Antichrist
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: rising in society?
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 10: Well, I see it in two or three years. And
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 10: the fourth signpost, which is when we will see the
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 10: man who will be Antichrist do some particular thing in
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 10: the Middle East. We might see that in two, three,
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 10: four years from now, you know, a few years. The
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 10: third signpost begins with that great famine that Jesus called out,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 10: you know, the weighing of, you know, the black horsemen
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 10: and the day's wage for a quart of wheat. That's
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 10: already being put into stone here, being set because of
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 10: the fertilizer that got cut off. The third of the
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 10: world's fertilizer was cut off this March, you know, with
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 10: the with the Hormuz Strait closure. And so people are
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 10: talking about how 2 billion people could potentially go without food.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 10: We need that fertilizer from the Persian Gulf to feed
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 10: all 8 billion people. So we may be seeing the
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 10: seeds planted next year, which means the fourth signpost would
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 10: be a year or two after that. So, yeah, it
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 10: should go pretty quick now. I mean, it's been 23
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 10: years since the first, but maybe the second, third, and
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 10: fourth will be quicker. We don't know the times, as
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 10: Jesus said. All we can know are the signs.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, it's definitely a great speculation on
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: what kind of signs that we're seeing right now and
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: trying to put this into perspective because we are in
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: uncharted territory right now with the way things are playing
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: out and the dominance that the U.S. has had, but
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: yet trying to play nice with Iran and how well
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: or not so well that that's actually worked out across
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: the board. So, I mean, we're in uncharted territory. The
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: idea of America right now wanting to not be involved
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: in foreign conflict, not have this military-industrial conflict, not have
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: this ongoing war in the Middle East has been a goal,
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: and we've gotten somewhat better at that with the pulling
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: out of Afghanistan, even though that was disastrous, the pulling
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: out of Iraq, and now with what we're doing in Iran,
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: it seems like we're almost teetering, where it could go very,
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: very well and we could be done with this stuff,
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: or it could go very, very bad and lead down
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: this road.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 10: That's right. And the signposts predict very, very bad, unfortunately.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 10: And And so the sign to people that the post-framework
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 10: might have something to it is, again, Iran destroying more
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 10: of the Arab oil infrastructure to where prices go crazy,
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 10: and Iran occupying many Muslim nations, like in the Arabian Peninsula, Iraq,
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 10: and Syria. Those would be the signs that this framework
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 10: actually has something to it. Again, what told me about
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 10: it was the first one with Iraq. Like, oh my gosh.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well, that was a shock and awe, I think,
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: for a lot of people. It is an interesting conversation.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: It is Mark Davis. You can find his book on Amazon,
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: Daniel Revisited. We are out of time, my friend, but
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: hopefully we can see some positive things happening. If not,
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: then we see the signs and we can be prepared
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: because we know what's in store when those signs end
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: up fulfilling themselves across the board. But Mark, we appreciate
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: it very much, my friend. Keep up the fight. We'll
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: get you back on and do it again soon.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 10: All right. Thanks for having me.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 8: And have a good day.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: You as well. Appreciate it very much. Interesting conversation right
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: there with Mark Davidson. Do you agree? Disagree? I want
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: to hear from you at 901-260-5926. One of the issues
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance to ask him about on
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: how this ties in is the other disclosure that's going
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: on within the government and some of the things we're
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: still trying to understand and put it into perspective as
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: well with the ETs and UFOs. Let's go there when
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: we come back around the corner here for the Todd
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: Starnes radio program. Stay here. All right, welcome back to it.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: Todd Stern's radio program. We're on the homestretch here. Last
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: few minutes of the program. If you want to chime
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: in at 901-260-5926. Interesting conversation with Mark Davidson. Daniel Revisited
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: is his book as we talk about the rise of
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: the Antichrist and the end of times prophecies that are happening.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: At the same time, there's always those prophecies of back
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: in the days of Noah, which everybody likes to talk
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: about as well. I've got to bring the roundtable back here. Helen, Ian, Dylan,
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: all you guys, this is one of my favorite topics
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: to talk about. I'm so glad that when Todd talks
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: about it, he calls me up to come on with
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: him to chat about it, too. Because extraterrestrials and UFOs, man,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: that is one of the best conversations I think we
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: need to have. And we're getting more information. Five rounds
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: of UFO document dumps out there for the government so far.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: This is like Christmas Day for you, Andy.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 3: And you are the pro because we don't really talk
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 3: about it that much.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: And I feel like.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: With how much stuff has been actually coming out recently,
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 3: we should definitely be talking about it more.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: We need to talk a lot more about it. So
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: here's the thing. The round five of Document Dumps came out,
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know, a couple weeks ago. More information, more video,
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: more pictures, more testimonial, handwritten letters, that sort of thing.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: But none of the juicy things yet. Until, look, I'm
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: encouraging you when you get a chance, because it's really
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: long and I don't usually promote other people's programs, but
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: the Joe Rogan podcast, David Grush was on there just
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: a couple days ago, and I've listened to about 80%
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: of that one. For those that don't know who David
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: Grush is, he's the guy that testified in front of
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: Congress and was the one that confirmed with Annapolina Luna
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: and Nancy Mace that we have non-biologics from crash sites,
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: from UFO retrieval sites. and non-biologics, meaning non-human intelligence, aka
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: ETs and aliens, whatever they try to use for these
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: technical words. He predicts, based on this interview that he
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: just did a couple days ago, that all of this information,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: the videos, the the factual hard evidence, everything we know.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: All of it will come out in the next two
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: years by the end of the Trump administration. And I'm
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: so excited. I can't wait.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: I have been waiting for this for so long. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm terrified. I'm on the other spectrum there. I'm the
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: one that's scared. I know you're excited. You want to
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  Speaker 3: see probably everything. And I do too, but in a
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  Speaker 3: safe area. I don't want them to... It's like AI.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 3: I don't want it to be mad at me. That's
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 3: why I say thank you every time I'm done speaking
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 3: with my chatbot.
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  Speaker 2: So like you're, you're friendly with that. That's right.
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  Speaker 3: I'm friendly with the aliens. I talk highly of them.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what's it, what's scary. I mean, just like the unknown.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: Is that what's scary about it?
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 3: It's definitely the unknown. And even some of the videos,
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 3: just how fast these objects are moving. That's what terrifies me.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: That could.
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  Speaker 3: If that accidentally just went through me, you know, I'm cooked.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 6: Dylan's scared of being one of those cows that they
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 6: just bring up into the UFOs.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's for sure.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: We don't want the cow experiment done on Dylan there. Well,
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  Speaker 2: here's the crazy part. This interview, he goes a lot
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: deeper because, you know, there's been speculation of the types
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: of ETs and the greys and everything else. David Grush
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: in this talks about the greys, the Nordic whites that
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: he saw personally in a video from a crash retrieval site,
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: the Nordics that are like taller, six, seven, eight foot
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: tall beings that look really close to humans, but will
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: like in bluish tint to their skin with gray hair.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: But he describes them as very beautiful and almost into
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: the description of what he said was Greek godlike, which
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: is really interesting.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Then the reptilians, which he openly said that he's had
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: firsthand testimony from people at retrieval sites that have interacted
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: with reptilians. Now, again, people can be like, people can
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: laugh this off. And this is not me. This is
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: just the testimony that he gave on the podcast with
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: what he said. But I'm telling you, if all this
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: information starts coming out, our world is going to expand
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: a heck of a lot more than we've been aware of.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: And that's what excites me. I want to know what
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: the heck's out there. When I look up at the sky,
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: I get anxiety, not because it's so big, but because
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: I'm trapped here in a place that's so small compared
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: to everywhere else. I get anxiety from that. And I
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: want to know what the heck's out there. True.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 3: The universe is very vast and I don't know. I
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 3: love the videos. I also want to see the physical.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 3: I want to know where they're keeping the stuff. They
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 3: probably have one of those things locked up somewhere just
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 3: interrogating it. I don't know what they're doing with them.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: Well, according to Matt Gates, he talks about the hybrid program,
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: the forced hybridization between ETs that we have in humans
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: with the DNA. So I don't know, man. There's a
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: lot that the government and private contractors have been hiding
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: from us, and I cannot wait to get that information out.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: I am so excited. excited about it. Thanks, guys, as always.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 2: We appreciate it. Thank you, Todd, for letting me sit in.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: Always a pleasure. Todd will be back at it before
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: you know it. Until then, it is the Todd Sarnes
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: Radio Program. We will see you back on the radio soon.
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  Speaker 5: Bye.