Latest / The Art of Costume Podcast / Burlesque
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- 0:12I love that. He was like alright share here
- 0:14your clothes and she just was like yeah I'll be wearing this
- 0:18this in this. Thank you.
- 0:20I imagine super nerve-wracking but probably super easy because
- 0:24you just filled her room up with black clothes and she was like
- 0:27all right and I mean she's been in the she'd been in the
- 0:29industry for how Many decades. At this point, all of them.
- 0:32Yeah, you can trust her and you can trust her.
- 0:35Yeah, she knows what she's doing.
- 0:43Hello and welcome to the art of costume on those with joy glass
- 0:46and I am shares tour manager, Spencer Williams.
- 0:50What's up? Spencer?
- 0:51You certainly look look the part today.
- 0:55Thank you. I just, I really needed a dress
- 0:57up for the special occasion. There are few things in life
- 1:01that I love more than burlesque and share.
- 1:04So, today's feels like a holiday at the art of costume.
- 1:08I know you've I like, I feel like this is one over here like
- 1:11day one. I swear you are like burlesque
- 1:15performer last does like okay so you might have noticed that
- 1:21Elizabeth just addressed us as the Arctic costume a little
- 1:26little change great around here we will eventually be dropping
- 1:29the word blogcast. Yeah.
- 1:31And you know just combining all of our platforms into one kind
- 1:37of but we'll just be going by the Arctic costume from this
- 1:40point forward because blogcast isn't real word.
- 1:43I've seen you all try to say it in real life and it's just never
- 1:46goes. Well no, Elizabeth happy pride
- 1:53month, happy Pride, happy Pride to everybody.
- 1:56Yes. Yes, Welcome to our pride month,
- 2:00/ burlesque e, Cabaret musical theater month?
- 2:05Yeah. Yes.
- 2:08How have you been? It's been a while actually.
- 2:11I've been okay. Hey working hard on a musical a
- 2:16here. Yes.
- 2:17Working with a local community theater.
- 2:21Who's doing? Jesus Christ?
- 2:22Superstar so. Okay, it's been.
- 2:25It's been a journey so far. It's so funny when Elizabeth and
- 2:29I talked behind the scenes, she sounds like every single costume
- 2:33designer that we've ever interviewed.
- 2:38That's how I know you're doing it right.
- 2:40You know, thank you. Thank you.
- 2:43I try, it's been busy over here. Lots of things are very busy.
- 2:51It's fyc season. My favorite.
- 2:54So been going to lots of events supporting costume.
- 2:57Designers was that Netflix Tyler day supporting all the Netflix
- 3:01costume designers ran into our pal?
- 3:04Louis cicada. Which by the way, I just have to
- 3:06say we have a million and a half bonus episodes coming out to the
- 3:12to the point where Like I'm starting to make list of
- 3:15episodes that still need to be edited and I feel really bad for
- 3:18Daniel who who's killing it by the way.
- 3:20I wish we had like, applause sound for Daniel.
- 3:24But yeah. So recently I well, I'm actually
- 3:28nursing a hangover right now because I was partying with
- 3:32Cynthia, Summers and Laura, Montgomery, guess to the
- 3:34podcast. We were at a variety of event
- 3:38which was super cool. And I also want to promote a few
- 3:42things for For all of you that are listening.
- 3:44Just recently, I interviewed costume designer Kate, Holly
- 3:48someone who we've been dying to talk to on the podcast.
- 3:52She was in town to talk about the Lord of the Rings, the rings
- 3:56of power, which I interviewed her at the costume designers,
- 3:59Guild space. So that's available.
- 4:01Now on YouTube, just look up CDG masterclass on YouTube with Kate
- 4:07Holly and you can watch our conversation.
- 4:09It is hilarious. Kate is so funny and I'm
- 4:13obsessed with her. And then for all of you
- 4:15currently listening, and you want to come see one of these
- 4:18events live. And in person coming up on June
- 4:2217th in Los Angeles at the Beverly Center.
- 4:25Yeah, this is crazy. I can be interviewing costume
- 4:30designer Tracy, GG field, and production designer, Judy Lee,
- 4:35for a little show on Peacock, called Poker Face, which if you
- 4:39haven't see that, it's so good. So amazing.
- 4:42So funny, it's with Natasha Lyonne it's a murder mystery
- 4:47directed by Rian Johnson. No created by Rian Johnson, I
- 4:51believe and come to the Beverly Center on June 17th from 1 to 4
- 4:55p.m., it's taking place at the Beverly Center Grand Court.
- 4:59There will be costumes from the show, enjoy some beverages, get
- 5:03some bites to eat and there will be Beats by DJ Asha.
- 5:06And of course, I'll be there. So that makes it all worth it.
- 5:10I'm so excited to see you all and RSVP.
- 5:13Information will be posted and are shown out.
- 5:15So check it out in the description but it's a, it's a
- 5:18public mall so they can't keep you out from them also.
- 5:22Nope, if you don't find RSVP details.
- 5:26Just be there. June, 17th.
- 5:31I'll sponsor you so much going on.
- 5:33Look at you, we have another big announcement coming, but I can't
- 5:37announce that just yet but that one's going to be pretty crazy
- 5:41for July. So, Look out for that July this.
- 5:46Yes, this summer is going to be packed with so many cool
- 5:51interviews and episodes and just all of your all your interviews.
- 5:56Spencer, like, you really are getting that good.
- 5:59Those good questions and answers.
- 6:02Thank you. I mean, you're part of some of
- 6:04them, it's always so fun when you get to be there too, which I
- 6:07believe we have some coming out. I mean just think of any show
- 6:12that you've been And lately, we might already have recorded an
- 6:15interview and Tommy we've done. So the summer is going to be
- 6:18busy. Oh yes, oh yes with that.
- 6:23I think we should get into one of my favorite movies.
- 6:26Let's do it. Would you like to give a summary
- 6:29this week? Elizabeth, I wrote a good one
- 6:31for you. Okay.
- 6:33Okay. Yeah.
- 6:35Spencer will be taking the lead on this one since he is a
- 6:38burlesque superfan. I will give our summary
- 6:46burlesque Wagon Wheel want to see a lease Ali.
- 6:52A small alley, a small town, gal with a great voice, but he's a
- 6:59troubled life behind and follows her dreams to Los Angeles.
- 7:03She lands a job as a cocktail waitress at the burlesque
- 7:07Lounge. A once Majestic Theater that
- 7:10houses and inspired Musical Review led by test the
- 7:15proprietor Ali vows to perform there and with the help of a
- 7:20Savvy stage manager, she makes the leap from bar to Stage.
- 7:25Helping restore the club's former glory.
- 7:29That was great Elizabeth. Thank you.
- 7:32Well done. Thank you.
- 7:35Oh well, now let's dive behind. The costumes burlesque was
- 7:39directed by Steve antin and costumes.
- 7:42Designed And by one of our favorites, the Michael Kaplan
- 7:46you will know this Legend. Recently, we talked about his
- 7:49work and I am just I have not stopped thinking about this film
- 7:53since we just did an episode Blade Runner for which he won a
- 7:58bafta Flashdance Christmas Vacation, another one of my
- 8:03favorites. Armageddon Fight Club and Star
- 8:07Wars 7 through 9, we've been talking a lot about Michael
- 8:11Kaplan A lot. And when I found out originally
- 8:15that he did burlesque that really was crazy to me because I
- 8:18think of Blade Runner and Star Wars and Fight Club, very like
- 8:22sci-fi dystopian type films. So when I finally did burlesque
- 8:27I was I had to double-check it and it's true.
- 8:31It's it's I think his like, you know, kind of like you said,
- 8:36like a Almost like post-apocalyptic sci-fi, like
- 8:41aesthetic kind of comes through, but in like, the best way
- 8:44possible in this movie, right? Exactly.
- 8:48And I was reading. This is one of those films that
- 8:50doesn't have a ton of, you know, behind a costume facts.
- 8:55But we will put some in one interview.
- 8:58I read actually is with the LA Times.
- 9:00And they were talking about Michael kaplan's impact on
- 9:04fashion, which we talked a lot about in Blade.
- 9:06Runner, that was We a big part of our episode, despite his past
- 9:10impact on a cultural scene with films such as Blade Runner
- 9:13Fight, Club, Etc, and Captain actually talked about
- 9:18influencing a Zeitgeist and that not being a part of his focus in
- 9:22films, especially burlesque. He said, with LA Times, I won't
- 9:25be doing my job. If I was thinking about the
- 9:28effect of the movie on fashion, I do I think is right for the
- 9:32character, I want them to look like they exist in a world,
- 9:35which makes sense to me. Because at the end of the day
- 9:38that costume designers focus on a script and not the effect it
- 9:42would have on the world. After the fact, the, you know,
- 9:44like he created Blade Runner to be a good movie, he read the
- 9:48script, he wasn't thinking back then like, oh, you know, one day
- 9:51this is going to be influencing Alexander McQueen and this is
- 9:54Singapore. Last, you know, it's a, it's
- 9:56storytelling. It's not thinking you're
- 9:58thinking about the after effects, then you're not really
- 10:01doing a job, the way you should be no.
- 10:03And like I think there were very few Few instances where costume
- 10:08designers are concerned with that because it's like, they
- 10:11need to make a movie, they need to dress these actors and help
- 10:16create these characters. You know, they're not, they're
- 10:19not really, they aren't worried about what people are gonna
- 10:23think about it, right? And by just focusing on the
- 10:27storytelling in a script, and just bringing these characters
- 10:30to life, that's how you end up influencing the Zeitgeist and
- 10:33fashion by just doing, you know, focusing on the job.
- 10:37And then all the fun comes after Kaplan.
- 10:41Also talked about getting into the actual costumes that art
- 10:44forms long history. Michael said in that same piece
- 10:48of philosophy. I'm just I'm set to costume span
- 10:50the 20s through to 40s. There's also a feeling of the
- 10:5350s and 60s to some of it even has a tiny bit of futurism, so
- 10:58it's make contemporary film. It's not a period film, but
- 11:02sometimes when you watch it, 72 costumes can feel bit period,
- 11:06which I think is really fun. Fun actually.
- 11:08Yeah, it's very fun and I think that's kind of like in the world
- 11:12of burlesque like it. There is this kind of like You
- 11:17do feel like you're stepping back into time a little bit when
- 11:20you watch it. So I feel like that's just like
- 11:23a natural part of you know, the world are creating.
- 11:27Yeah, especially like going back to like, you know, you know,
- 11:31older songs Like Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend, you know,
- 11:33gaining to like old Hollywood history.
- 11:36So and with that Elizabeth, let's go down our dancing shoes
- 11:42and take a little break. Spencer, yes.
- 12:14Are you ready to follow a lie on her journey?
- 12:16Annie. I'm so ready.
- 12:21So I have never seen this before.
- 12:25I know, that's so crazy to me. I've seen this movie almost as
- 12:29much as I've seen the Lord of the Rings this wild, but I had
- 12:34never seen it. But I like, I do remember when
- 12:37it came out because it was like, such a big deal.
- 12:40Yeah. At the time when it came out,
- 12:43but like I literally knew nothing about it.
- 12:45So like when Ali's here in this like small.
- 12:50Town, like knit top, brown leather motorcycle jacket.
- 12:54I was like, wait, what's happening?
- 12:56This isn't our last, yeah. So wait, what was your thoughts
- 13:01on veut? Les.
- 13:01The deal of it. Did you hate it?
- 13:03Do you think I'm crazy? She's like all the above.
- 13:07No, you're not crazy. I enjoyed it.
- 13:10I was a little weirded out when I saw James was her love
- 13:13interest. I was like, wait that's a toilet
- 13:19reference for everyone. Who's really confused.
- 13:22What's his name Cam Newton and yet?
- 13:25I don't I think that's what it is.
- 13:27I just don't know how to pronounce it still.
- 13:29So we just call him James from Twilight.
- 13:31James from Twilight. Yeah, I was like a little
- 13:34confused especially because he looks very different than he did
- 13:38in Twilight. So I was looking at this man,
- 13:40and I was like, who are you? Okay, I'm gigging that.
- 13:45Why did I put an n in there? That's embarrassing.
- 13:48Well yes it's James from Twilight made.
- 13:51He's not pale. He's not as like you know his
- 13:55hair is very short so like so like because you don't see him
- 13:58outside the club for a second. So I was very just like, why do
- 14:03I know that this person was? So I'll be honest.
- 14:05I was kind of distracted, seems distracted by the men's has.
- 14:12I was, I was Well, the first opening number the song is
- 14:20Something's Got a Hold on Me. There's also ray of light.
- 14:23Beautiful people does your just like Ali and she's moving to Los
- 14:27Angeles and trying to, you know, figure out her place in the city
- 14:30which you and I can relate to. I remember when I moved to LA
- 14:33and I was doing the most, I was just like, I don't know what
- 14:38it's like to be fashionable, but I think I figured it out.
- 14:40I was like, wearing Blazers and stuff to work which I was a
- 14:43barista at the time so it was not necessary.
- 14:46But You know, everyone knows what it's like to move from a
- 14:49small town and just trying to find your place.
- 14:52Absolutely. It's so funny that you say that
- 14:55because I remember because we didn't mean to like our second
- 14:57year of college. Yeah, but I like where this is
- 15:01going because he was the person who caused you were so many Lady
- 15:08Gaga's new. You're gonna say that it's the
- 15:11guy who always wears Lady Gaga t-shirts and work.
- 15:15And when he works in the cafe, he's always like dressed up.
- 15:22Remember meeting you and being like, oh, this is Spencer.
- 15:27This is who this person is because we had classes together.
- 15:31That first year, this is mortifying, will stop it.
- 15:37You look too good for the times more.
- 15:39The times all of 2015. Back in the day back in the 2013
- 15:48When We Were Young whippersnappers I was a mess.
- 15:51I obviously sometimes feel like I went to college too soon.
- 15:54You know, I cuz I say my graduate high school and I moved
- 15:58to Downtown LA within a week of a half of graduating high
- 16:01school. Yeah.
- 16:02So I just, I don't know. I like, don't you remember
- 16:05college? I was still like, developing in
- 16:07my head. Sometimes I don't remember that
- 16:11first year. All that.
- 16:12Well, I kind of like I remember like the beginning of the year
- 16:15and the end of the year, but then that second year, when like
- 16:18IDs, I feel like we made our life Like all of our friends.
- 16:21Yeah. Well like from there on, I'm
- 16:24like, oh okay. But yeah, I think I, I think
- 16:27most of us are too young when we first go to college, not to
- 16:30mention you and I were drunk all the time.
- 16:33We were not drunk all the time. Okay, well I love you is he
- 16:40working? That's true, that's true.
- 16:42It's more me than Elizabeth but we did have fun.
- 16:46We did we didn't have a lot of fun for all of you listening.
- 16:50Free to send us your moving to La stories.
- 16:52That would be fun to read. That would be very fun to read.
- 16:55Yeah. But yes, I do.
- 16:57I do understand a lie and lie in these opening scenes.
- 17:03She has their earphones, and she's just like doing a snap and
- 17:06pop as she's walking through the streets, which is kind of
- 17:09unrealistic. If you do that, now, you might
- 17:10get murdered. You may, you know, I get it, but
- 17:16then we get to the burlesque club and this is why I'm the
- 17:19costume. Um start and we have the
- 17:22entrance of one of my heroes share Spencer's I feel like
- 17:29shares your favorite person on the planet I would do anything
- 17:32for her. She is at the real goddess and I
- 17:36just don't feel like we deserve her and she's going to outlive
- 17:39all of us and she gives me like Galadriel Vibes, you know?
- 17:43Yes. Like if Galadriel was dark, if
- 17:46she got the ring, if she actually took the ring from
- 17:49Frodo, it would be shy. Yeah.
- 17:51Yeah, so that first look, she has as for the song, Welcome to
- 17:58burlesque which I love that song.
- 18:00I've seen share performed twice. She performs the every time and
- 18:03she wears this exact outfit. I don't think it's the costume,
- 18:07but, you know, Recreation of it probably Bob Mackie obviously or
- 18:11not. Obviously, but honestly, and
- 18:14Michael Kaplan, actually talked a little bit, just about The
- 18:18Vibes in a burlesque club. Do we know we talked about the
- 18:21periods and the futurism, but talking about just like the club
- 18:26looks in general. He said, in an interview with
- 18:28ew, I want to take a modern take on Burlesque with a retro feel
- 18:33and a nod to its history and Origins not Enos without being
- 18:37crass. He said there's a bit of the
- 18:40Crazy Horse Saloon and Paris the musical Cabaret as well as the
- 18:4560s TV show hullabaloo as well as the folies bergere.
- 18:50Some, you know, good french stuff going on here.
- 18:53So lots of influence is happening in these costumes and
- 18:57for some reason that really comes through for me with shares
- 19:00first outfit. Absolutely, the whole first
- 19:03scene. You really get that that whole
- 19:06vibe. He's trying to create.
- 19:09I also, especially like this because it's like, also like,
- 19:11oh, but it's still modern because, like this, like kind of
- 19:15likes it sailor girlish. Yeah, look was pretty popular.
- 19:20At that time, she's like a ringmaster to me.
- 19:23Yeah. And I just like, especially like
- 19:27with how it contrasts with everyone, like everyone around
- 19:30her. Like it kind of fits in.
- 19:32Like you can see like her course that are.
- 19:35I think it's a corset or bustier that she has underneath the
- 19:37jacket it matches the people around her but then she's got,
- 19:41you know, her like nice fitted jacket.
- 19:45And you're like, yes share, you are in charge.
- 19:49Yes. Yeah, she stands out but at the
- 19:52same time, it's like, you know, like you said, they all look
- 19:54similar, but you just know that she's the leader and it's share
- 19:58just by the way, her costume is cut.
- 20:00So definitely a favorite. Absolutely.
- 20:05So now, let's dive into some of our other characters, like you
- 20:09mentioned, we have James from Twilight is appropriately,
- 20:16underdressed the entire time I love the bowler hat, you know,
- 20:23it's not a choice. I would usually go for but it
- 20:26works on him and it's definitely, that's definitely
- 20:29what threw me off at first. Like that is why I could not
- 20:32place where he was until I think it's like his apartment is the
- 20:36first place we see him like without like the eyeliner and
- 20:39everything. Yeah and I was like oh my gosh
- 20:44it's James and IMDb confirmed that I've now officially looked
- 20:49it up. His name is Act in the movie.
- 20:51Oh, Jack, it's close to James, but is actually very close.
- 20:59But yeah, Jack looks good. I mean, I get why a lie Falls
- 21:03for him? Pretty quickly.
- 21:04All of the apartment scenes where he's like walking around
- 21:08shirtless and stuff, I'm like this scene is Catered for
- 21:12nothing else but just love interest Vibes, everyone in a
- 21:16theater. Was probably all like hot and
- 21:18bothered. I was like, Sarah, you are Not
- 21:20acting like you have a fiance. What is happening here?
- 21:23Ain't no. So bad.
- 21:25It's so bad. And then we have, of course,
- 21:28Stanley Tucci who plays Sean who I remember when we talked to our
- 21:33favorite. Ladies, at makeover Montage,
- 21:35talking about how Stanley Tucci always has the Stanley Tucci
- 21:39glasses. This is like a Stanley Tucci
- 21:42glasses moment. That's always ringing in my
- 21:44head. Absolutely, absolutely.
- 21:46And I loved, I loved his character in this Because I'm
- 21:50like I feel like this is the twin brother of his character in
- 21:54The Devil Wears Prada. Yeah.
- 21:57It was just like nice. This is the knights version.
- 22:01He is just so good. I am obsessed with him and I
- 22:05just, I feel like we'd be good friends.
- 22:08I love him. Yeah, you know what movie, I
- 22:10forgot he was in and then I was like, I was listening to a
- 22:13podcast about the other day. Easy, a, you know, it's not an
- 22:17easy. A I've still never see me.
- 22:20Easy. A.
- 22:20You would like it. I know all about it but I've
- 22:23never actually seen it, but that's funny.
- 22:25He's in everything. He's an everything and like he's
- 22:29so good last night, I Was preparing for our upcoming
- 22:33Fourth of July episode eyebrow eyebrows and I watched the first
- 22:38film Captain America and I forgot Stanley.
- 22:41Tucci was it again? I was watching with my Dad, we
- 22:46this is a Stanley, Tucci Stan podcasts.
- 22:50So where Stanley say the word we'll have you on as a guest.
- 22:54I need to watch his like travel show that's like on my list of
- 22:57Summer things to watch the Italian one where he just eats
- 23:01food. Yeah, yeah but I imagine the
- 23:04pitch and like the HBO or CNN conference room and like imagine
- 23:10this Stanley Tucci eating pasta And I would be like, yeah, so
- 23:15yeah, very easy. So, I'm sure.
- 23:19Also, what's a very easy? Sell is, Christina, Aguilera in
- 23:23this for last cop uniform. So, the Tough Lover scene were a
- 23:30lie. You know, starts to use her
- 23:32vocals. This scene is burned into my
- 23:35memory so good. I love the look.
- 23:38It's just a simple. Little black leather.
- 23:41Get up with the hat. Hat and it just it works well
- 23:45with with it works so well with the performance and I'll never
- 23:50forget the moment. I heard.
- 23:51Ali. Start singing that song Who.
- 23:53Yeah, I also love it because it fits, it fits the whole look and
- 23:58Vibe. They're going for, but it's so
- 24:01simple that it lends her performance and her voice shine.
- 24:06Yeah, it's not because most burlesque outfits are made to be
- 24:10stared at this one. Is very subdued and Her Shine as
- 24:14a performer. Yeah, that's true.
- 24:16And there's also you know, she has other two performers with
- 24:18her but she really stands out and you know she it's tough love
- 24:22her. So I'm guessing it's like
- 24:23leather and like law enforcement supposed to be tough but it
- 24:27gives her just enough room to really like shine.
- 24:30So, you know, props to Michael Kaplan, one of the best.
- 24:33I'm sure that's definitely what he was thinking as he created
- 24:36it. Absolutely.
- 24:38And then we go into, like all of our montages of different Ali
- 24:41moments. And the one more time out now is
- 24:44one of my favorites. It's the but I'm a good girl
- 24:47look and it's lots of feathers and very kind of in a white
- 24:55pearly and Michael Kaplan said about this, look, that's a
- 24:59costume from a number called. I'm a good girl, I wanted
- 25:02Kristina to kind of look like a desert.
- 25:05There's feathers, there's satin, and she's all pink, and Peach
- 25:08and adorable, like some kind of sorbet.
- 25:13Great behind the costume. Fact, it is a great.
- 25:15It is a great fact. He achieved what he was going
- 25:19for. Hmm.
- 25:22Wow, yes just find exactly what this is.
- 25:26Yeah. Yeah I love this Montage because
- 25:29it's just filled with like Fantastic.
- 25:31Look after Fantastic. Look.
- 25:33Yeah. So fun.
- 25:34I love the pink lighting and it gives you dessert is such a good
- 25:38way to put it. She just looks so great and I
- 25:41love the way that the feathers move around.
- 25:42Her hips for this at number. It's a lot of fun and her new
- 25:47blond. Bob look is such a that's
- 25:49killer, are you all right? More costumes.
- 25:54Then we have, we have Kristen Bell as her character.
- 26:00Nikki when she performs Long, John Blues.
- 26:04Hi was so confused because I did not know.
- 26:07Kristen Bell was in this movie. Yeah, Nikki plays the Character
- 26:13in ways, which was shocking and she's wearing this all black
- 26:18number and it looks hot. It looks so good.
- 26:23She looks incredible in this scene.
- 26:26Yeah, she's supposed to be the competitor for Ali and she she
- 26:32really does it. My favorite scene in this film?
- 26:36Well, I have several, but one of my favorite is the share scene
- 26:39where she's snapping at Nikki, and she's like, I'm a About to
- 26:43lose. The only thing.
- 26:44That means anything to me, I have more to worry about the try
- 26:47to keep you from pouring, tequila in your Cheerios and
- 26:51Nikki smashes shares window. That's what solid solid moment.
- 26:55Yeah, it definitely is. Yeah.
- 26:59I like Nikki, like, confuse me so much, because I'm just, like,
- 27:02not used to Kristen Bell being mean.
- 27:04I'm like, no. You're like, you're nice.
- 27:09It's such a good little look, though.
- 27:10The black, yeah, lingerie. Look.
- 27:14But another fan favorite that I've noticed through the years
- 27:17is the guy, what takes his time moment where Ali is in all
- 27:22pearls until she's wearing nothing at all.
- 27:25And yes, I love this. Look, especially because this
- 27:28feels like a look that takes us back to a different period.
- 27:32I would say like Michael is talking about at the beginning.
- 27:35Hmm, it's definitely like a like golden age of Hollywood like
- 27:43Over the top look, and I love it.
- 27:47I also love how like the dancers around her compliment her
- 27:52because it is, it's so old Hollywood.
- 27:55And then, they also look very old Hollywood.
- 27:57So it kind of just, like, compliments, the whole
- 28:00aesthetic. Yeah, I was thinking a little
- 28:02bit like Mae West, maybe. I don't know if that's the way
- 28:05each, but that's what I was saying and she looks amazing.
- 28:09I forgot that she like loses her costume toward the end, I just
- 28:12We watch that their names like, damn surprised.
- 28:16They went that far because I think it's a PG-13 movie, right?
- 28:20I think. So I'm sure I was like, oh okay.
- 28:27Oh man. And then we have another
- 28:28favorite Express. This one's a lot of fun because
- 28:32we have the famous bra that has the black hands covering most of
- 28:38the bra and I people reference this costume all the time and I
- 28:42guess to burlesque community. So, like I've seen this look
- 28:47before and I had no idea. It was from this movie.
- 28:50Yeah, I saw and I was like oh because like I've seen this
- 28:53picture of Christina Aguilera with like her hair in the bowler
- 28:55hat and she's like looking to the side and I think I just
- 28:59assumed it was like from one of her music videos.
- 29:01I didn't know. It was from Burlesque.
- 29:03Yeah, that's fair. It's definitely kind of is
- 29:07giving me Chicago Vibes at this moment to which I love to do at
- 29:10some point Michael. Kaplan actually talked about
- 29:14this scene in particular since since it's such a favorite.
- 29:17He said all of the costumes in this dance.
- 29:21Number have a little bit of surrealism in them.
- 29:23That was kind of my departure point, and other costumes have a
- 29:26little bit of Man. Ray, she has beaded hands on her
- 29:29breast and a set of hands on her butt.
- 29:32So, there were some humor, some sexiness, there's also a skirt
- 29:35made of just garter belts that moves wildly, with the dancer,
- 29:39it was a lot of fun to do that one.
- 29:41It was one of my favorites. It's and it was fun.
- 29:44It was a fun number. Yeah, I I know a lot of people
- 29:48who are like, that is my favorite song, not mine in
- 29:51particular, but I love that costume.
- 29:53Yeah, no, it's a great one. Also, although this was sad, my,
- 30:01I think my favorite song, the song, I listen to the most is,
- 30:04You Haven't Seen the Last of Me by Cher.
- 30:07It's just like the moment where shared gets to be share for a
- 30:10whole minute and a half. Yeah, I love, she looks so
- 30:16elegant. And it's like, very simple and
- 30:18you're like, yes, let's share, we share.
- 30:21That's what this outfit is made for she gets to show off for
- 30:24vocals. Michael talked about shares
- 30:27working outfits because most of the time he see tests walking
- 30:30around and just simple black elegant chair looks, you know,
- 30:34because she's she owns the club and she performs that first
- 30:37number. But then today, she's making
- 30:39sure that this thing is running as best says, As can be because
- 30:43otherwise she's gonna lose the club.
- 30:46Michael said about shares, working outfits.
- 30:48When she's in a club, she doesn't wear pure clothes.
- 30:51She's just test running her club with her beautiful blue black
- 30:55hair. I want to share to have her own
- 30:57color, and I felt the character test should be in Black.
- 31:01That was her color share. Always puts her in prayer on
- 31:04everything she was wearing. I put clothes in her room every
- 31:07day and she'd walk up. Combining them in different ways
- 31:10than I thought she would share and her care.
- 31:12Our tests are not that unalike, both are Show Business Troopers.
- 31:17Yeah, that doesn't shock me at all.
- 31:20I love that. He was like alright share here
- 31:22your clothes and she just was like yep.
- 31:26I'll be wearing this this and this.
- 31:27Thank you, probably I imagine super nerve-wracking but
- 31:32probably super easy because he just filled her room up with
- 31:35black clothes and she was like, all right?
- 31:36Yeah and I mean she'd been in she'd been in the industry for
- 31:39how many decades at this point, all of them.
- 31:42Oh yeah. You can trust her.
- 31:45You can trust her. Yeah, she knows what she's
- 31:47doing. He has so many other costumes to
- 31:50worry about. So yeah, test share, kills it in
- 31:54this performance. Another Fair performance is the
- 31:59Bound to You number, where we have Ali performing in this lime
- 32:03green off the shoulder dress at the same time as we get these
- 32:08cut scenes with Ali and Jack like rolling around in bed for
- 32:11like the longest. Two and a half minutes of my
- 32:15life. Oh gosh, this a, I love this
- 32:21look and it was another one of those looks I knew but I just
- 32:24thought it was like a Christina Aguilera look.
- 32:27I didn't know. It was a burlesque.
- 32:28Look. She looks so good.
- 32:32She looks so good. Um no.
- 32:35I like it because it's simple. It's like very romantic and her
- 32:39and Jack are falling in love. Yeah.
- 32:42It's hard to watch her and Jack like rolling in bed taking
- 32:45photos of each other and alleys, like, taking off the pantyhose
- 32:49over and over GE GE, but yeah, that green a look.
- 32:55That one's like burned into my memory.
- 32:57The structure of the drape on the bodice is so strong.
- 33:00And I just, you know, I don't know how it's being held
- 33:02together but it's beautiful and the fabric just hit so perfectly
- 33:08in the lighting. I imagine Michael calf would
- 33:11must have been like so. This look in particular.
- 33:14Oh, absolutely. I think it's one of Christina
- 33:16Aguilera's. Favorites too.
- 33:18She just looks incredible. Oh yeah.
- 33:21Oh yeah. And we're getting down to the
- 33:24ends. Of course, we're going to go out
- 33:27with over-the-top costumes and we're talking about the final
- 33:30number. Show me how you burlesque and
- 33:34what a finale Elizabeth. Oh yes.
- 33:37Oh, yes. This is one of those images that
- 33:41whether or not you've seen, In Burlesque, if you're interested
- 33:44in costumes, you know, you know, this dress, yeah.
- 33:47How is this? Not nominated for an Oscar
- 33:49makes? Well, probably because no one
- 33:51watched it at the time, but it's a fan favorite and they'll be
- 33:54watch forever. Michael talked about the final
- 33:58number. He said, that's Christina and a
- 34:01finale wearing a costume. I made of gold chains.
- 34:04All the costumes, on, all the dancers in this number.
- 34:07And there were quite a few were made of gold chains, all
- 34:10handmade and Link together, link by link.
- 34:12Gold chains is for röszke crystals.
- 34:16That sounds a lot like a lot. Yeah, he goes, even for the say
- 34:22I invited swarvoski to see the finale of the movie.
- 34:25I guess she loved what she saw because she said she was very
- 34:28moved and a few days later she called and asked me if I would
- 34:31design a line of jewelry for swarvoski which I just
- 34:34completed. So hello and got a little brand
- 34:38deal out of it. Yeah, laughs and like
- 34:42Rightfully, so this final number is like stunning.
- 34:47It is stunning, it's so good. Just all the numbers two gold
- 34:51chains. The linking of the chains is
- 34:53really beautiful to give so much movement.
- 34:56I wonder if it's heavy. I don't know props probably, but
- 35:02it's just such a good number with all the gold, the lights,
- 35:05the burlesque letters in the background really just really
- 35:08pops. Absolutely Spencer.
- 35:12Doth. Are you ready to play our
- 35:14favorite game? I'm very ready.
- 35:17Let's do it. Hit it.
- 35:18Daniel the one costume to rule them all.
- 35:28Spencer, what is your one costume to rule them all?
- 35:31This one is actually difficult for me because I love all of
- 35:35them. So I decided to just go back to
- 35:38a classic which is just Tessa's working outfits.
- 35:41I just love seeing share walk around and the all black.
- 35:45It just feels like, I don't know, just a tad.
- 35:48The real goddess walking around set and it's all black look or
- 35:51hairs looking right? It's just a simple costume.
- 35:55I just feel like that's a good place for me to sit because I Of
- 35:58all the costumes. So, I'll just fall back with
- 36:00good old test, just being test. I I love it.
- 36:06I love it and I went in a similar Direction.
- 36:10I love Tessa's first. Look her first burlesque
- 36:14performance. Look because I think it really
- 36:17is like one of the, the iconic look from this.
- 36:20Like I knew it was a burlesque look.
- 36:22Before I even watch the movie, it suits share perfectly.
- 36:28And like really I feel like represents what he was trying to
- 36:31do with the entire film. Oh man yeah it's definitely a
- 36:35good one and actually Elizabeth we have a little bit of audience
- 36:40participation for this week's one comes to rule them all I
- 36:43know. And I think you'd be happy to
- 36:46know that the audience seems to agree with you.
- 36:49Yes, our first. I know I was like, come on,
- 36:53everyone's agreeing with Elizabeth so our good And Jazz
- 36:59at variety, the senior Artisans editor actually says that her
- 37:04favorite costume is shares. Welcome to her.
- 37:07Welcome to burlesque look. So you have whole senior editor
- 37:12at variety on your side. Yeah, I knew I was right at
- 37:17Priscilla. Junk on Instagram says that
- 37:19their favorite look is the lime green bound to you dress another
- 37:24fan. Favorite.
- 37:25Yeah. Salvador Perez costume.
- 37:28Your of hocus-pocus to amongst many other incredible films.
- 37:32And shows says that his favorite look is, the pearls costume that
- 37:36we talked about. That was my second, that was my
- 37:39second choice. I was going in between this look
- 37:41and the Pearl. Look, because the Pearl look is
- 37:42just so fabulous. Yeah.
- 37:45And knowing Salvador, Perez that is really a line of his
- 37:48personality that pearls. Look, definitely 100%.
- 37:53Another listener said their name is at Marcio The Strain.
- 38:00Sorry, if I got that wrong. Their favorite look is welcome
- 38:03to burlesque and the other one is at costume frown.
- 38:09The they said, their favorite look is the green off.
- 38:12The shoulder look from Barrow to you.
- 38:14So, I'm seeing a trend here. Yeah.
- 38:16And our final one is from our good friend Natalie Lucia, who
- 38:21is just on our Empire Strikes Back episode.
- 38:24Her favorite look is the green gown from the bounce you for
- 38:28Orbit. So it's either the Bound to You
- 38:31Look order. Welcome to burlesque look.
- 38:33That is the one costume to rule them all this week.
- 38:36Oh, I love that. I love that.
- 38:38That's great. Looks like I was outnumbered
- 38:40this week but that's okay. I agree with all of you.
- 38:44Yes. You definitely should have gone
- 38:48with shares. Welcome to Pearl s look Spencer.
- 38:51Yeah, I feel stupid. Now think that was that was the
- 38:54choice, but if you would also like, Like to let us know what
- 38:59year one costume to rule them. All from Burlesque is you can
- 39:02leave us a voicemail at 62. 65 15 1826 or email us at the art
- 39:08of costume Blog has at gmail.com.
- 39:10Yes and Elizabeth. I'm so excited to say that our
- 39:14burlesque Cabaret pride month is getting even spicier because
- 39:19next week we're watching perhaps one of the spiciest films of all
- 39:22time. Next week we are watching The
- 39:26Rocky Horror Picture Show. I'm so stoked.
- 39:31So excited. I'm so excited.
- 39:33This is a great, this is a great movie.
- 39:35It is actually we had a different film in mind at first
- 39:39and we swapped this one in and when Elizabeth was like we
- 39:42should do Rocky Horror. I was like, yes, yes, yes,
- 39:45actually, that's that's it. That's the one.
- 39:48I don't want to wait till Halloween to do it.
- 39:50So let's just do it now. So excited.
- 39:52Can't wait. If you would like some content
- 39:56from us in between episodes, as you can visit us at the art of
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- 40:35This is a fun episode Elizabeth. I feel like I need to go dancing
- 40:38or something. I yeah, yeah I would I wish I
- 40:43was in Los Angeles right now so we could go out.
- 40:45Yeah, very fun. Except it's a little too hot
- 40:48right now but anyways, thank you all for listening.
- 40:52Yeah, burlesque club. I'm sure with that.
- 40:57Thank you all so much for listening.
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- 41:40best and costume design. Chuck.
- 42:01So in like Spencer. Yeah.
- 42:06Oh, I thought you were frozen. Sorry.
- 42:08No. I was just listening.
- 42:10I looked over and you were so still and you're still wearing
- 42:12those sunglasses. Like, I couldn't tell.
- 42:01Chuck. So in like Spencer.
- 42:06Yeah. Oh, I thought you were frozen.
- 42:07Sorry. No.
- 42:08I was just listening. I looked over and you were so
- 42:11still and you're still wearing those sunglasses.
- 42:14Like, I couldn't tell.