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Who murdered Molly Bish? A cold case heats up! · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Climb Stories with Nancy Grace on Serious x M Triumph
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Speaker 1: Channel one thirty two. To the man who took Molly
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Speaker 1: Bish Does June mean anything to you? It's been seventeen
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Speaker 1: years since Molly Bish vantished. Her remains were found on
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Speaker 1: a central Massachusetts mountain side. Three years later, the case
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Speaker 1: remains unsolved. It's an open investigation. We're constantly getting tips
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Speaker 1: and leads on it. Initially, Molly's disappearance wasn't thought to
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Speaker 1: be an abduction. There is ranged from Molly running away
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Speaker 1: to being somewhere with their friends. I don't feel like
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Speaker 1: she would run away and she was gone hiding out.
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Speaker 1: I didn't have that feeling. There's pieces out there that
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Speaker 1: we just need to fit together that's going to allow
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Speaker 1: us to move forward with the investigation. Does June mean
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Speaker 1: anything to you? Does June twenty seven, two thousand mean
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Speaker 1: anything to you? It does to me. That is the
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Speaker 1: year that we have all been looking for Molly Bush June.
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Speaker 1: Every time June rolls around, I think about Molly Bush
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Speaker 1: and almost every day in between. Why what happened to
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Speaker 1: a beautiful, beautiful young girl? Molly Bish Joining me right
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Speaker 1: right now is a special guest Maggie Bush and her
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Speaker 1: daughter Heather. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank
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Speaker 1: you for being with us. Maggie. I can't tell you
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Speaker 1: what it means to me to get to speak to
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Speaker 1: you again and to meet your beautiful daughter Heather. Just
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Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. It's funny how you never think.
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Speaker 1: I would never when I was little, I would never
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Speaker 1: have thought, Wow, some the greatest people ever made in
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Speaker 1: my life are going to be crime victims. You know,
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Speaker 1: I don't think about that when you're planning your future. Well,
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Speaker 1: there's some kind of a bond between violent crime victims
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Speaker 1: that I can't really explain it. But I'll start Maggie
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Speaker 1: with telling you. I don't know if you know how
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Speaker 1: many prayers go up every day about you and Molly
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Speaker 1: and your family. I'll just start with that and then
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Speaker 1: to you. It was molly eighth day at a brand
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Speaker 1: new job as a lifeguard. She was just sixteen. It's
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Speaker 1: a hot summer day. Do you remember that day, Maggie, Oh,
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Speaker 1: how I do um again? We had just gotten out
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Speaker 1: of school. I'm a school teacher, and uh, it's cleaned
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Speaker 1: your room and I had I actually was special that
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Speaker 1: teacher and I had some some U I E. Piece
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Speaker 1: some work to complete, and so we were all kind
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Speaker 1: of buzzing a little bit. You know. Molly had a
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Speaker 1: new job, my son had just trained her, and um
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Speaker 1: I had taken her to work the day before and
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Speaker 1: it was kind of a little unsettling. We had seen
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Speaker 1: a car that day parked in the parking lot and
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Speaker 1: there was only one white vehicle. And Molly got out
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Speaker 1: and she was very excited and said, by Mom, I
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Speaker 1: love you, see you later, you know, when just she
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Speaker 1: had to get some supplies ready and go down to
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Speaker 1: the beach. It was the first week of um swimming
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Speaker 1: lessons for the town kids. So we live in a
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Speaker 1: very small community, only four thousand folks, one traffic light,
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Speaker 1: beautiful town in the central Massachusetts. Well, Molly went off
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Speaker 1: and I see this vehicle on this man and he
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Speaker 1: ends up kind of staring at me, and I get
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Speaker 1: kind of unnerved, and I said, I can't leave Molly here.
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Speaker 1: What is this guy doing there? So I head to
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Speaker 1: the beach and meet her and we sit and it
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Speaker 1: is a very lovely little place and it's kind of
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Speaker 1: again it's down a main street, but it's also kind
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Speaker 1: of isolated and um. We sit. We talked and I
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Speaker 1: really we haven't talked a whole lot about danger, but
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Speaker 1: we talked about you know, I said, I noticed there's
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Speaker 1: more men around maybe, and she did spots just fisherman mom,
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Speaker 1: not concerned at all. I talked about how nice the beaches,
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Speaker 1: and then I said, I got to get back and
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Speaker 1: do my reports. So I go to of the car
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Speaker 1: and this individual is still there. I am so kind
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Speaker 1: of aw starck, like what is he doing. He's just
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Speaker 1: sitting there smoking a cigarette. There's nothing to view, it's woods.
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Speaker 1: And I get into my car and I'm looking. I
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Speaker 1: had not even taken my purse before, so when I
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Speaker 1: go in, I'm pretending I'm getting something, and prior to that,
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Speaker 1: I'm walking and he stares at me. And I have
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Speaker 1: to tell you, it's like a mother bear. You just
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Speaker 1: want to protect your child. You just said, what are
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Speaker 1: you doing here? Go go to work at ten o'clock
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Speaker 1: in the morning, and and that just got me so unnerved.
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Speaker 1: So when I went to the car to get my purse,
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Speaker 1: he pulled out so fast that I didn't even think.
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Speaker 1: I just got relieved. It was one of those immediate
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Speaker 1: gut feelings. I just was uncomfortable and that white car
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Speaker 1: still to this day we've never found We never found
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Speaker 1: the individual who was driving it. Our case remains unsolved
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Speaker 1: and um. Anyway, the next day happened. Took Molly to
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Speaker 1: work the same talked to her that night about being safe,
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Speaker 1: even offered her a little Kubaton stick, which my husband
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Speaker 1: had as a probation officer. She said, Mom, I don't
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Speaker 1: need it, it's just fisherman. Don't worry. And that next morning,
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Speaker 1: after I drove her the work, there wasn't a single
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Speaker 1: car in the parking lot. She said, goodbye, Mom, I
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Speaker 1: love you. Our routine kind of farewell, and that was
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Speaker 1: the last time I ever heard my Molly. And I
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Speaker 1: would have never, ever in my wildest dreams or sadness,
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Speaker 1: has imagined that three hours later I would get a
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Speaker 1: phone call from the Assistant Chief of police that Molly
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Speaker 1: had not been at the pond all morning. Her things
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Speaker 1: were left on the beach, an open first aid kit, um,
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Speaker 1: the police radio, her shoes, and her backpack all remained
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Speaker 1: on the beach, and nobody knew where she was at
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Speaker 1: that point. This was an unusual event for us. Molly
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Speaker 1: was very conscientious, very kind of nervous. It's a new job.
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Speaker 1: They told me she probably went with friends. I didn't.
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Speaker 1: It didn't make sense. She left her shoes, she left
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Speaker 1: her back back, but she left the job at ten
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Speaker 1: o'clock when she just was starting. It just it makes
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Speaker 1: sense at all. So I called my daughter, Heather, and
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Speaker 1: Heather said she would meet me at the beach, and
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Speaker 1: I immediately got in my car. I went to the
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Speaker 1: beach and I went I'm still in disbelief, and I'm
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Speaker 1: calling her and screaming her name on the beach, Molly, Molly,
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Speaker 1: and people were coming. There was no Molly, and people
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Speaker 1: had said that she hadn't been there. There had been
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Speaker 1: the lifeguard all day. And I knew I dropped her off.
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Speaker 1: I've seen her things. So I was very, very frightened.
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Speaker 1: For me, the first gut re action was some thing
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Speaker 1: that is really wrong here. I started to go toward
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Speaker 1: um the police station. There comes Heather with our new
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Speaker 1: granddaughter and we go into the police station and I say,
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Speaker 1: something's very wrong. I need this chief, the assistant chief,
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Speaker 1: because he called me and my husband and because he
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Speaker 1: was a probation in the local area at the local court,
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Speaker 1: I said, call him. That's how upset I was already
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Speaker 1: I knew in my heart that this was not how
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Speaker 1: Molly operated. And they told us to go in a
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Speaker 1: little room. It was two young officers and they figured
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Speaker 1: out that, oh, she just went with friends. They weren't concerned.
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Speaker 1: And that's when Heather and I well that that they
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Speaker 1: told you to go in the room, and I took
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Speaker 1: off looking from all my friends. Okay, then so I
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Speaker 1: went from there, and then I went also to look
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Speaker 1: for her other friend in the next town that was
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Speaker 1: a good friend, and she was accounted for, and then
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Speaker 1: I got my son returned to we returned to the beach,
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Speaker 1: and when we got to the beach, we were aghast.
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Speaker 1: I mean, people in a small town heard there's Molly
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Speaker 1: was not at the beach. It was on the scanners
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Speaker 1: and there were people starting to come. And Molly's friend's
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Speaker 1: father was ahead of the fire department and nobody I
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Speaker 1: think this was the hard partner after nobody knew. Everybody
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Speaker 1: felt something, but they didn't know what to do. And
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Speaker 1: I really didn't see the pricess I got there. It
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Speaker 1: was the fireman had actually entered the pond thinking Molly
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Speaker 1: drowned swimming, and that was very frightful. They had those
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Speaker 1: special dogs to determine if there was a body. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it was like you are now really in a surreal,
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Speaker 1: unbelievable place that you've never been, and it's heartbreaking because
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Speaker 1: you don't know where your daughter is. Nobody knows where
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Speaker 1: she is, and you're just watching this this show progressed
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Speaker 1: and it was scary and and sad, and you worry.
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Speaker 1: She's thinking, you don't know what Now that you have children,
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Speaker 1: I know you can imagine how hard what would your
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Speaker 1: child do? And you know each child has their own personality.
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Speaker 1: Molly was funny and silly, and but she was also
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Speaker 1: very shy and if someone would hurt her, but she
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Speaker 1: would also trust somebody because she was a good kid
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Speaker 1: and she had no reason not to. You know, if
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Speaker 1: they dressed like a police officer, or they dressed and
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Speaker 1: some you know, um authoritative, she would go. And that's
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Speaker 1: how I know that we we looked there was no
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Speaker 1: nobody had Molly, and we had everybody that she was,
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Speaker 1: you know, friends with, accounted for. And that was really
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Speaker 1: the beginning of our horrible nightmare. Everyone with me is
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Speaker 1: what I consider to be a friend with me is
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Speaker 1: Maggie Bish. This is Molly Bish's mother. Molly goes missing
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Speaker 1: one warm June morning, two thousand, the search still on
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Speaker 1: from Molly's killer. And when I hear you talking, I
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Speaker 1: can't help it. It takes me straight back to when
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Speaker 1: my fiancee was murdered. And there's that feeling you. I
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Speaker 1: felt like a wild animal. This is the only way
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Speaker 1: I can describe it. I felt like a wild animal
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Speaker 1: that couldn't form words. I wanted to break the window
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Speaker 1: with my bare hands, and just how I didn't even
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Speaker 1: know words to say. And I'm thinking I remember one night,
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Speaker 1: right before I was supposed to go on the air,
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Speaker 1: my long time makeup artist she's on was with me
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Speaker 1: and she got a call. She had her hand in
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Speaker 1: my in my hair at the moment and put it
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Speaker 1: on speaker and her son was missing, Arlington was missing,
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Speaker 1: and everything just went bersark. And I mean, I've covered
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Speaker 1: all these cases. I know what to do, I know
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Speaker 1: who to call, but when it happens to you, it's
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Speaker 1: a whole whole another can of worms. And her story
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Speaker 1: he was found, thank goodness. And I'm just thinking about
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Speaker 1: you at that at that pond and they're looking in
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Speaker 1: the water and you see the first aid kid, and
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Speaker 1: you see her shoes, and everything's there. Everything's right, everything
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Speaker 1: is present. But Molly, when did you find out what
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Speaker 1: happened to Molly? Well, you know, this was a whole
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Speaker 1: new world for us, Nancy. Nobody knows how to do it.
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Speaker 1: And I have to honestly say to any listeners that
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Speaker 1: there's no right way or wrongly. We have learned what
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Speaker 1: is best practices for law enforcement. Because we live in
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Speaker 1: a small town, this happens often in large cities. People
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Speaker 1: need a plan. There was no plan that day. That's
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Speaker 1: what was most frightening. I don't I think everybody wanted
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Speaker 1: to help, but nobody knew what to do. And so
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Speaker 1: like we had the firemen in there, but they had
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Speaker 1: actually uh contaminated this crime scene because nobody really knew
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Speaker 1: it was a crime. They had come in with the dogs,
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Speaker 1: people were there. I mean, it was just confusing. Um
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Speaker 1: By the end of that night, the state police came
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Speaker 1: in and they overtook the case. But even in fairness,
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Speaker 1: the state police do a lot of work with drugs
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Speaker 1: and and they really didn't have a plan at first either.
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Speaker 1: I think it was just you know, find out we
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Speaker 1: found out about molley notion. We didn't believe there's a
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Speaker 1: chance and at all that she had just left with friends.
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Speaker 1: We didn't think she would not call us. I mean
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Speaker 1: when we had to drive home, we were beside ourselves.
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Speaker 1: How do you go home if you don't know if
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Speaker 1: your child has food, or is safe, or is being
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Speaker 1: harmed or held. I mean, I think in all truth,
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Speaker 1: that was one of the most horrible, exhausting, frightening days.
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Speaker 1: And then what we learned again, police helped us. You know,
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Speaker 1: they were trying to do what they could do. And Um,
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Speaker 1: to me, I think we did get involved finally. Um,
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Speaker 1: we were on America's Most wanted and then the press
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Speaker 1: came in. Our police had asked us not to do
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Speaker 1: any We did not talk. We are isolated for two weeks.
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Speaker 1: All I could imagine this parents begging people to help
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Speaker 1: them with their kids, and I didn't understand that. And
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Speaker 1: then once I started to open up and speak to
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Speaker 1: the press and and to the TV people, we had
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Speaker 1: we had to get home. We had to get molley
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Speaker 1: story out there, and that that really became our burden.
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Speaker 1: We didn't do it. Nobody would really know. I think
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Speaker 1: people would just thought, oh, sure, she came home, but
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Speaker 1: we did five hundred days, we did one thousand day,
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Speaker 1: we did her birthday. We had over three hundred people
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Speaker 1: that first year at her birthday. UM we started a foundation.
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Speaker 1: We just we didn't know what to do. But even
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Speaker 1: in our small town, they had said that people said
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Speaker 1: this person could be from in the area. Hill That
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Speaker 1: frightened more people, and so I was on the local
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Speaker 1: school committee. So we went forward and we said we'd
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Speaker 1: like to present um A a safety program. So we
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Speaker 1: got very involved with trying to help children. We learned
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Speaker 1: right away that they needed a good picture, and they
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Speaker 1: needed a book, a safety book, an I D So
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Speaker 1: we we created our own that we thought was small
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Speaker 1: enough that dad could carry it even and they had
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Speaker 1: everything and it's your picture, your fingerprints. We wanted to
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Speaker 1: find that child before they were you know, we didn't
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Speaker 1: want a DNA kit to find them past. We wanted
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Speaker 1: to find them beforehand. So that became our our tool
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Speaker 1: to help others. We developed a Molly Bitch Foundation and
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Speaker 1: we went all over Massachusetts. We we actually, I believe
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Speaker 1: what was far beyond thirty five thousand that we had
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Speaker 1: done in our time. But we we are always looking
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Speaker 1: for Molly and trying to put on events, and I
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Speaker 1: started the first Missing Children's Day in Massachusetts and our
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Speaker 1: Boston State House, getting the families together, trying to connect
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Speaker 1: with one another, because there is, like you said, a
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Speaker 1: unique bond, an unusual sadness, fear, you know, the unknown.
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Speaker 1: So that became one important day that we would come together.
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Speaker 1: But it also gave people. It made the legislators aware
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Speaker 1: of our plight, what laws weren't being hold that were
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Speaker 1: good or bad, and we could change that. We actually
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Speaker 1: helped with Senator Kennedy to bring in the Amber Alert
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Speaker 1: here to Massachusetts. We worked in the child safety law
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Speaker 1: with many good people that I know, you know, and anyway,
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Speaker 1: we got involved with the National Center. They helped work
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Speaker 1: on our case, but it took three long years before
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Speaker 1: we knew anything, and they were hard and it was
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Speaker 1: really tough for our whole family, and families suffer. You know.
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Speaker 1: We used to have um fragile Fridays. If we made
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Speaker 1: it another week, you know, how are we doing? Checking
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Speaker 1: in with each other. It was tough. We didn't have
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Speaker 1: small children, my children, my son was just in this
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Speaker 1: first year of college, and how there was just had
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Speaker 1: our first child. So we were a little older, which
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Speaker 1: in some ways is easier but still very difficult, because
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Speaker 1: every age has its own difficult except you know, you're
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Speaker 1: so right about that, and there are so many phases
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Speaker 1: you go through one when you suffer a loss. My
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Speaker 1: father passed away about a year and a half ago,
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Speaker 1: and I'm still amiss. He and I were, I guess
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Speaker 1: soul mates were just I mean, I love my mother.
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Speaker 1: I'm extremely close to her. I've always talked to her more,
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Speaker 1: I guess, and I did my dad. But he and
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Speaker 1: I were just two piece in a pod, and you
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Speaker 1: go through It hurts me too much to remember what
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Speaker 1: I went through when Keith was murdered. But the thing
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Speaker 1: that that that phases you go through when you lose somebody.
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Speaker 1: But I guess I don't know what I'll have to
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Speaker 1: ask you because I knew almost immediately who murdered Keith
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Speaker 1: and what had happened to him. But it was two
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Speaker 1: thousand and three, almost to the days ju nine, two
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Speaker 1: thousand and three before you knew what had happened to Molly.
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Speaker 1: Do you remember that day? Well? You know it is, Oh,
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Speaker 1: I can tell you, it's awful. My we actually we
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Speaker 1: had did the missing Children's Day May at the end
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Speaker 1: of May, and we had come home and John had
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Speaker 1: gotten a call, my husband, and he said, we have
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Speaker 1: to get home. And usually I'm saying thank you to
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Speaker 1: all the people. We have two bust loads of people
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Speaker 1: that we take with us to Boston, and so I'm
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Speaker 1: very grateful. We put flowers we could forget me not
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Speaker 1: to you don't go out there. We do a big,
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Speaker 1: beautiful program. So we are coming home with all this
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Speaker 1: stuff and John is saying, get home, We're going, We're going,
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Speaker 1: and he was pushing me. I was getting a little agitated. Well,
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Speaker 1: what happened is one of the news reporters came to
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Speaker 1: our house and they had the pictures because somebody did
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Speaker 1: not believe. While how it went is there was a
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Speaker 1: hunter that had spotted something that he wasn't familiar with,
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Speaker 1: but he mentioned it to this um person who used
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Speaker 1: to be a police officer, and so they went and
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Speaker 1: they were kind of on their own doing this. And
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Speaker 1: then I guess this this police officer didn't believe that
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Speaker 1: the um you know, he's afraid the police would take
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Speaker 1: credit for his fine, I guess, and so he wanted
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Speaker 1: some of them take pictures and he called them the press,
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Speaker 1: and the press did it and so guess what they do.
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Speaker 1: They show it to us before the police even called
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Speaker 1: us and told us anything. So I'm in my driveway
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Speaker 1: and you know how in the press car like the vans,
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Speaker 1: they have all the TVs. There's Molly's. Yeah, this is
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Speaker 1: how Molly's. I've seen her bathing suit in the russ
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Speaker 1: in the leaves, the old leaves. And John didn't remember,
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Speaker 1: you know, my husband, he you know, it's so funny.
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Speaker 1: I she went out with her to buy this special
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Speaker 1: bab in suit because they didn't have the colored ones.
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Speaker 1: The recreational person was going to order them. So I
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Speaker 1: knew exactly what it was. It was a blue one,
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Speaker 1: but it was a special one, and I knew right
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Speaker 1: then and there my knees almost crumbled, and I ran
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Speaker 1: up the stairs and to our home. And I mean
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Speaker 1: there was three days that I could say. And when
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Speaker 1: you were talking earlier, you do it's like a primal cry.
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Speaker 1: It's it's from the depths of your soul. I knew,
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Speaker 1: and I didn't want it, you know, you want to
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Speaker 1: find Molly. But it wasn't the way we had hoped,
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Speaker 1: you know, And my I mean I cried and it just, um,
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Speaker 1: that was one of the worst I have to say days,
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Speaker 1: and I hollowed and I every piece of me was spent,
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Speaker 1: and that it was a special swimsuit that in a
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Speaker 1: moment you saw, you knew what it was. Um. You
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Speaker 1: know What's what's interesting, Maggie, is I remember that the
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Speaker 1: morning that Keith left, he had been visiting our home.
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Speaker 1: My family, Me and my mom and dad were home.
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Speaker 1: My sister was already off in grad school at Wharton,
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Speaker 1: my brother was moved out and working. This is the
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Speaker 1: three of us, and he had visited for the weekend.
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Speaker 1: And he left that morning to go back to Athens
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Speaker 1: where he lived and worked. And I just, I guess
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Speaker 1: I just suppressed this or blocked it. But it's only
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Speaker 1: been in the last few years that I remembered that.
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Speaker 1: At the murder trial, I testified, and I remember coming
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Speaker 1: down the witness stand. It was a really tall one,
22:52
Speaker 1: and where you go up and there's a landing, then
22:55
Speaker 1: you turn left toward the witness standing up some more steps,
23:00
Speaker 1: and I remember coming down those steps and I walked
23:04
Speaker 1: past the district attorney's table and I looked down and
23:09
Speaker 1: I saw a denim shirt covered in blood, and I
23:15
Speaker 1: immediately knew that that was Keith's shirt that he had
23:21
Speaker 1: been wearing that day. And Maggie it this has only
23:27
Speaker 1: come back to me. I mean it's been years later
23:33
Speaker 1: and it came back with such clarity. But I remember
23:38
Speaker 1: just stopping and looking at that shirt. I knew exactly
23:42
Speaker 1: what it was. What was it that you knew beyond
23:47
Speaker 1: a doubt that was Molly's swimsuit. No, I really, I
23:55
Speaker 1: don't know to analyze it. I think it's just that
23:58
Speaker 1: I was the mother. I picked it out. It was
24:00
Speaker 1: the color, and they think there was a little bit
24:03
Speaker 1: she was going to the training for the um lifeguards
24:06
Speaker 1: and she needed a certain kind of you know, a
24:09
Speaker 1: tank suit type, so I knew that material and it
24:12
Speaker 1: was blue, but it had some you know, it had
24:15
Speaker 1: to be a little bit cool, so it had some
24:17
Speaker 1: mixed colorings in the middle of different things. And I've
24:21
Speaker 1: seen it. I knew, I just knew. And you know, again,
24:25
Speaker 1: they had to send the police in, they had to
24:27
Speaker 1: send the search party, and they had and I mean
24:29
Speaker 1: that began a really another whole experience because the first
24:35
Speaker 1: day they came home with one bone, you know, or yeah,
24:39
Speaker 1: it was a shin bone, but it could possibly be
24:41
Speaker 1: someone in Molly's age range. The next day they had
24:45
Speaker 1: ribbed bones, and then by the third day they had
24:48
Speaker 1: her skull. I mean what mother sees. You know, we
24:53
Speaker 1: actually did say goodbye to Molly and kissed goodbye, but
24:56
Speaker 1: we only had plenty four bones that were found. But
25:00
Speaker 1: because of that, we were able to get a dental records,
25:03
Speaker 1: you know, so that they had to certainly make sure
25:07
Speaker 1: it was Molly, and I think that was the only
25:10
Speaker 1: way we were able to They were able to say
25:13
Speaker 1: the police. But I knew, you know, and it was
25:17
Speaker 1: just confirmed the moment you saw the swimsuit, you knew
25:23
Speaker 1: the moment everything happened, you knew it was bad. M
25:29
Speaker 1: Heather bish is Molly's sister. Heather, What do you recall
25:34
Speaker 1: of this time? Well, I think, you know, again, it
25:39
Speaker 1: was still that it couldn't be possible that Molly was
25:42
Speaker 1: abducted at you know, I thought that in the beginning
25:45
Speaker 1: that it had to be a mistake, and you know,
25:48
Speaker 1: sort of the same thing that this company, right, there's
25:51
Speaker 1: there's got to be an explanation for this. And then
25:54
Speaker 1: as the moments and time kept passing and Molly didn't
25:57
Speaker 1: pop out in it anywhere. You That's when we realized
26:01
Speaker 1: her her peril. She was, she was in a great
26:03
Speaker 1: deal of carol. So you know, we became increasingly anxious.
26:08
Speaker 1: I think when even when we found a dating suit
26:10
Speaker 1: for me, you know, I think it just kind of
26:12
Speaker 1: just hold on to hope, like I don't know, maybe
26:15
Speaker 1: maybe he stripped her and through the bathing suit in
26:18
Speaker 1: the woods or or something. We just want, I want
26:21
Speaker 1: to believe something as terrible as as her loss isn't
26:24
Speaker 1: isn't going to be what what the final end of
26:27
Speaker 1: the story is. And for me, I can remember the
26:30
Speaker 1: day that the state police actually came up to the
26:33
Speaker 1: house on June nine, when when they did find LESCo.
26:37
Speaker 1: Because people were coming over to my mom's house every
26:39
Speaker 1: day and I had been living in in Western mass
26:42
Speaker 1: at the time and driving out every morning with my
26:45
Speaker 1: three year old, and it was about a forty five
26:47
Speaker 1: minute drive, and for a three year old to have
26:49
Speaker 1: to go potty all the time, that's like two potty stuff.
26:52
Speaker 1: Never never an easy, easy trip. But we were doing
26:56
Speaker 1: that daily to to um ensure that we were we
27:00
Speaker 1: were all together. And I remember we had just gotten
27:03
Speaker 1: there on June ninth, and there are people in the
27:05
Speaker 1: driveway and my mama was talking and UM. In the distance,
27:09
Speaker 1: I could see the distric attorney and the head of
27:11
Speaker 1: our investigation, UM walking up the driveway and they were
27:15
Speaker 1: wearing suits, and it was, you know, the beginning of June.
27:18
Speaker 1: And I was thinking, Jane's it's a real, really a
27:22
Speaker 1: hot day to be wearing a full suit like that.
27:25
Speaker 1: And then I I just I just knew. I thought,
27:27
Speaker 1: I just knew, like this is that, this is this
27:30
Speaker 1: is the final they're gonna tell us. Now, you know,
27:33
Speaker 1: it's interesting every that you're saying. And I hate to
27:37
Speaker 1: keep projecting, but what you're saying is striking so many
27:41
Speaker 1: chords in me. It's you know, you know. And And
27:46
Speaker 1: because I recall that day I come out of a
27:49
Speaker 1: statistics exam, I was still in college and was walking
27:53
Speaker 1: to my job. I worked all the way at the
27:56
Speaker 1: other end of Mercer University camp empus in the library,
28:01
Speaker 1: in the back of the library, processing books, and I
28:05
Speaker 1: stopped midway. Of course, it's just before cell phones to
28:08
Speaker 1: use the phone, the pay phone in the student union
28:12
Speaker 1: to call the library and say my test went over
28:15
Speaker 1: like twenty minutes. I'm almost there. Just hold on like
28:20
Speaker 1: there was some emergency processing books. Okay, so anyway, and
28:23
Speaker 1: when I did, they had librarian Miriam said, you need
28:29
Speaker 1: to call Keith's sister right now. I knew right then
28:35
Speaker 1: that he was dead. I need just like you, just
28:40
Speaker 1: when you saw those guys in the suits, you knew
28:43
Speaker 1: and I'm just really, I just I just really wanted
28:47
Speaker 1: to run away, to be honest with you, I didn't
28:49
Speaker 1: even want to hear what they were going to going
28:51
Speaker 1: to say. I just thought if I could run, I
28:53
Speaker 1: would be able to outrun the truth or the reality
28:57
Speaker 1: or you know. It just felt like every thing's going
29:00
Speaker 1: to change now, our whole life, everything bad, Heather that
29:08
Speaker 1: you your mind tries to get around it or or
29:14
Speaker 1: or bend with it, because I remember I would wake
29:17
Speaker 1: up in the mornings and I would think that Keith
29:21
Speaker 1: was still alive and this had been some elaborate roofs
29:26
Speaker 1: and I would dream. I would dream and this is
29:29
Speaker 1: so I don't know exactly what this means, because I
29:31
Speaker 1: never saw a shrink about it. Probably should. I would
29:34
Speaker 1: dream that Keith wanted to get out of the engagement,
29:39
Speaker 1: and so he had faked the whole thing, because you know,
29:44
Speaker 1: this close to us getting married. He had decided that
29:48
Speaker 1: in my dream, and I'd wake up and I go, oh,
29:51
Speaker 1: thank god, he's alive, and this just you know, and
29:55
Speaker 1: then I'd wait, wait a minute. I would have I
29:58
Speaker 1: would have dreams that Molly was still alive, but she
30:01
Speaker 1: would be you know, she would have gone off with
30:03
Speaker 1: her friends to Florida, or she went on you know,
30:06
Speaker 1: she went on a trip and she was just back
30:08
Speaker 1: and she was going to see her old boyfriend. And
30:10
Speaker 1: I would be I remember in the dreams, feeling like, no,
30:13
Speaker 1: you can't go on. I've definitely want to be with
30:16
Speaker 1: you and hang out with you. And generally that's not
30:18
Speaker 1: how twenty year olds feel about their teenage sistors. So
30:23
Speaker 1: I've always sort of thought about those dreams later now
30:26
Speaker 1: in life and thought, jeus, you know, maybe Molly was
30:29
Speaker 1: trying to tell me in some capacity that she was okay,
30:32
Speaker 1: you know, and it was just me feeling this desperate feeling.
30:35
Speaker 1: Listen to this to the man who took Molly dish.
30:39
Speaker 1: Does June two thousand mean anything to you? I remember
30:44
Speaker 1: it as a warm summer day. We left home, we
30:47
Speaker 1: picked up the police radio, and then we arrived at
30:50
Speaker 1: the pond. The sand truck was there. We watched, mesmerized
30:55
Speaker 1: like little children as the sand fell gently to the ground.
30:58
Speaker 1: Molly and Mom for the last time. Molly said goodbye,
31:03
Speaker 1: I love you, and man off. It was her eighth
31:06
Speaker 1: day on her new job as a lifeguard. That was
31:10
Speaker 1: the last time I saw or heard for my Molly.
31:14
Speaker 1: I have held those words wrapped around my heart to
31:17
Speaker 1: sustain it from breaking into a million broken pieces. It's
31:21
Speaker 1: been seventeen years since Molly Bish vanished. Her remains were
31:25
Speaker 1: found on a central Massachusetts mountain side three years later.
31:29
Speaker 1: The case remains unsolved. It's an open investigation. We're constantly
31:35
Speaker 1: getting tips and leads on it. We're moving forward and
31:40
Speaker 1: going through the beginning to now. We started talking to
31:44
Speaker 1: some of the original investigators just bring them in as
31:46
Speaker 1: a group, and we also have a disc attorney assigned
31:49
Speaker 1: to the case. So they came in and we just
31:50
Speaker 1: started going over there observations that notes their feelings, you know,
31:55
Speaker 1: things like that Maggie Bish could never imagine a moment
31:58
Speaker 1: that she'd never see her daughter Molly ever again. Molly
32:03
Speaker 1: could be very shy and she could be very silly.
32:06
Speaker 1: There was two sides of her in her comfort zone.
32:09
Speaker 1: She was silly, like Lucy, I mean, goofy silly. We
32:14
Speaker 1: were just beginning our adult relationship when Molly disappeared, so
32:18
Speaker 1: I often wonder what that would have been like to
32:20
Speaker 1: have known her as an adult. I trained Molly to
32:24
Speaker 1: get her confidence up, to learn how to do the
32:27
Speaker 1: radio checks, get the first daid out, clean the beach,
32:30
Speaker 1: checked the water, look for snakes. The Bishops moved to
32:37
Speaker 1: central Massachusetts to escape the noise and dangers they had
32:40
Speaker 1: experienced in Detroit. We thought it would be a safe
32:43
Speaker 1: place to raise our kids. I stayed home with my kids,
32:47
Speaker 1: so Molly went to kindergarten. We made a lot of
32:50
Speaker 1: sacrifices so I could be home with them, and now
32:53
Speaker 1: I'm very grateful that I did, because I had more
32:56
Speaker 1: time with my mom. Initially, least disappearance wasn't thought to
33:01
Speaker 1: be an abduction. Theories ranged from Molly running away to
33:05
Speaker 1: being somewhere with their friends. None fit the circumstances that
33:10
Speaker 1: were evident that day at Commons Pond. My mom called
33:14
Speaker 1: and said, Molly's not at the pond, and I said,
33:16
Speaker 1: what are you talking about that? You know they must
33:18
Speaker 1: be wrong. Well, it was more surreal I was. I
33:21
Speaker 1: didn't believe it. These people tried to do what they could,
33:24
Speaker 1: but there was not a plan. The police didn't really
33:27
Speaker 1: know what to do. The fire department came in thinking, well,
33:30
Speaker 1: she must have drowned. They really didn't consider Molly's behaviors.
33:34
Speaker 1: People were trying to do something, but it was confusion.
33:37
Speaker 1: Going home the night that Molly disappeared, and that was
33:40
Speaker 1: probably one of the hardest nights of my life. I
33:43
Speaker 1: remember just continuing to go outside and think, maybe he'll
33:47
Speaker 1: drop her off, whoever took her or whatever is happening,
33:50
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll leave her in my front yard. The Bish
33:53
Speaker 1: family had no guidance on what to do or how
33:56
Speaker 1: to cope with the stress of Molly's disappearance. I don't
33:59
Speaker 1: feel she would run away and she was gone hiding out.
34:03
Speaker 1: I didn't have that feeling. I think everybody wanted to
34:05
Speaker 1: blame theirselfs. We're like numb. We really were not sure
34:09
Speaker 1: what to do. My sense of trust has been rocked
34:12
Speaker 1: since my sister disappeared. The Bishes set out not only
34:15
Speaker 1: to find the killer, but to help others with missing children.
34:19
Speaker 1: We couldn't give up on Mow. We had to find
34:21
Speaker 1: Moll and so we had to do everything and anything
34:24
Speaker 1: that we could do to find her, and we start
34:27
Speaker 1: a foundation in her name, and we started a safety
34:29
Speaker 1: program in our town. Never be alone. Always have a buddy,
34:34
Speaker 1: you know, um, tell your family, Tell someone where you
34:37
Speaker 1: are at all times so that they know where you are.
34:40
Speaker 1: The third one, If it feels funny, it is funny.
34:43
Speaker 1: Trust those instincts. Molly's legacy lives on to support and
34:48
Speaker 1: protect children. Who murdered her remains a mystery. There have
34:53
Speaker 1: been persons of interest over the years. The day before
34:56
Speaker 1: Molly went missing, Maggie cross Paths was a mysterious man
35:00
Speaker 1: a white car. To this day, he's never been identified.
35:05
Speaker 1: We pull up to the beach and there's a car
35:07
Speaker 1: parked and I got this horrible feeling in my gut.
35:12
Speaker 1: I just like stared at him. I don't know what
35:13
Speaker 1: to do, I have nothing. I just gave him that
35:16
Speaker 1: like a mother there, I want you to go away,
35:18
Speaker 1: go to work. What are you doing here? And so
35:20
Speaker 1: he gave me the stare right back, which made me
35:23
Speaker 1: feel like he's bold, and I felt very uncomfortable. But
35:27
Speaker 1: I was not going to leave Molly. So what I did.
35:29
Speaker 1: I'm right almost by the car now, so I just
35:31
Speaker 1: pretend I'm getting my purse. I wasn't going to leave,
35:33
Speaker 1: but then he backs up. In addition to this composite
35:37
Speaker 1: sketch of the man in the white car, other persons
35:39
Speaker 1: of interest have been reported in case. It's been worked
35:43
Speaker 1: for seventeen years, and I think technology is really gonna
35:46
Speaker 1: help us out moving forward. There's somebody out there that
35:49
Speaker 1: knows something, and uh, that's my hope that they'll come
35:51
Speaker 1: forward at some point. If you remember something or might
35:55
Speaker 1: have seen or overheard something, please call the Massachusetts State
35:59
Speaker 1: Police today, even if something seemed insignificant, maybe they saw
36:05
Speaker 1: something or they heard something. There's pieces out there that
36:09
Speaker 1: we just need to fit together that's going to allow
36:13
Speaker 1: us to move forward with the investigation. I'm trying to
36:16
Speaker 1: imagine your your v you know, you pull up and
36:21
Speaker 1: you at a distance see all these guys in suits
36:24
Speaker 1: and your driveway, and I'm trying to imagine what Maggie,
36:29
Speaker 1: what that What that was? When press A van pulls
36:33
Speaker 1: up and they run up? What what did they have
36:37
Speaker 1: a picture of her swimsuit? Maggie, Well, you know what,
36:40
Speaker 1: I guess this, Like I said, this person didn't believe it,
36:43
Speaker 1: so they had six TVs going on. There were six
36:47
Speaker 1: TVs in that van, and there was every vantage point
36:50
Speaker 1: that they could take the picture. And I mean it
36:51
Speaker 1: truly was a small piece of bathing suit that was
36:55
Speaker 1: peaky gown from underneath twigs and old leaves, and it
37:02
Speaker 1: was just taking in different views. And I mean it
37:07
Speaker 1: didn't take me the second to gather that information to
37:10
Speaker 1: men of seconds. Tonight, I ran up the stairs because
37:13
Speaker 1: I knew. I closed my door in my room and
37:16
Speaker 1: I began to howl. I was on my knees and
37:19
Speaker 1: you know, John was down there talking and I just
37:21
Speaker 1: like for this the I mean, because again we adjusted
37:25
Speaker 1: missing Children's Day for the folks in Massachusetts. It was
37:28
Speaker 1: a beautiful day of great We were coming home feeling
37:31
Speaker 1: at least we're doing something positive, and you know, we
37:34
Speaker 1: always will miss Molly, that's what. But to see this
37:38
Speaker 1: was it was too close to knowing that this was
37:41
Speaker 1: not good. Again, wanted. We are now hearing rumblings that
37:49
Speaker 1: d n A, d ox aibony clay acid tests are
37:55
Speaker 1: storrying little seeds of hope, But what do you know
38:00
Speaker 1: about a potential DNA test? You want to talk? Yeah? Sure,
38:05
Speaker 1: I um, I have been sort of headlining the investigative
38:08
Speaker 1: efforts with for my family. But about a year ago
38:14
Speaker 1: they took and every so often they'll take pieces of
38:17
Speaker 1: evidence and and submit them for DNA testing and they'll
38:21
Speaker 1: try to compare it when they have a few years ago,
38:24
Speaker 1: they had a really I don't quote unquote good person
38:27
Speaker 1: of interest UM down in Florida and they you know,
38:31
Speaker 1: had taken some DNA from there and submitted it and
38:33
Speaker 1: then nothing was sort of a hit. UM So as
38:37
Speaker 1: so I guess our hope sort of lies in the
38:39
Speaker 1: science and technology that you know, sort of helping investigators
38:44
Speaker 1: solve these older cases. And UM. So last year they
38:48
Speaker 1: took twenty four pieces of evidence UM to retest and
38:53
Speaker 1: so they don't exactly tell us what what they took
38:56
Speaker 1: or where it came from, but we know it was
38:58
Speaker 1: twenty four pieces of sense UM and they resubmitted them
39:02
Speaker 1: for further testing. You know, as they, like I said,
39:05
Speaker 1: that the technology increases in the touch DNA becomes available, UM,
39:11
Speaker 1: they will continuously keep keep resubmitting for particularly these older cases,
39:17
Speaker 1: because they've they've been able to um you know, solve
39:20
Speaker 1: cases based on this DNA. I mean even right now
39:23
Speaker 1: we have a case in Central mass It's it's not
39:26
Speaker 1: an older case, but they've been using DNA to sort
39:29
Speaker 1: of point the direction they The seeds of hope are
39:35
Speaker 1: that DNA samples have been taken and they're being re
39:41
Speaker 1: examined with new techniques that were not possible at that time.
39:44
Speaker 1: I mean that is a huge, big deal because I
39:48
Speaker 1: at all trying rape cases, murder cases, you name it.
39:52
Speaker 1: With no d NA, you know what I'd have. I'd
39:55
Speaker 1: have blood, blood sample and I guess say, well, the
39:59
Speaker 1: says spect is a positive and the perpetrator was a positive.
40:04
Speaker 1: That was it? Or maybe a hair and I could
40:07
Speaker 1: say the rapist or the killer is a Caucasian male
40:13
Speaker 1: with ex hair. I mean, that was it. There was
40:16
Speaker 1: no nuclear or mitochondrial touch nothing. So this is a
40:22
Speaker 1: major development that they are doing this. I want to
40:26
Speaker 1: ask you about this UM deep ground sonar test that's
40:34
Speaker 1: being done. What do we know about that? Yeah, so
40:38
Speaker 1: we you know, over the years, we've you know, because
40:41
Speaker 1: law enforcement is uh, you know, they sort of work
40:44
Speaker 1: on their own and and and you know, they don't
40:47
Speaker 1: necessarily report to victim families. That can become very frustrating
40:50
Speaker 1: for victim families. UM and because we you know, I
40:55
Speaker 1: felt very strongly that we wanted this to be solid.
40:57
Speaker 1: We wanted our community to feel safe. We wanted our
41:00
Speaker 1: friends kids to feel safe. You know, we've we've all
41:02
Speaker 1: grown up here where you know, and some capacities, family
41:06
Speaker 1: to each other. What do you think they hope to
41:08
Speaker 1: find heather with a ground penetrating radar and it's on
41:14
Speaker 1: a private property in an undisclosed location in Worcester County?
41:20
Speaker 1: What what could that mean? What was that where the
41:22
Speaker 1: swimsuit was found, Maggie in Worcester County. No, No, it
41:28
Speaker 1: was where we received a So so just trying to
41:32
Speaker 1: put the back story here. We um some friends in
41:37
Speaker 1: the area, uh person who has a PhD in criminology,
41:41
Speaker 1: and I sort of formed this sort of investigative team.
41:44
Speaker 1: It kind of came off to our fundraisers and things
41:46
Speaker 1: like that. We developed this little team. This little team
41:50
Speaker 1: developed these UM campaigns. So one year we did UM billboards,
41:55
Speaker 1: another year we did ads. Each time we do one,
41:59
Speaker 1: we do a tip campaign, and so we had a
42:01
Speaker 1: just one Piece campaign because the Set Police has always
42:03
Speaker 1: said we're one piece away from solving this crime. During
42:06
Speaker 1: our just one Piece campaign, we received a number of
42:09
Speaker 1: tips on a particular person who say that this particular
42:13
Speaker 1: campground in Worcester County. UM. This next year we had
42:18
Speaker 1: another campaign. We called it just one Car because we
42:21
Speaker 1: were trying to identify this light car. Was it tied
42:24
Speaker 1: to this person that the location is question? So let
42:30
Speaker 1: me understand the location is the campground where a potential
42:35
Speaker 1: suspect stayed. Okay, got it? And what do you think, Maggie,
42:42
Speaker 1: they are looking for with the deep ground search when
42:47
Speaker 1: I understand that it has the potential to be able
42:49
Speaker 1: to recognize metal or rock or anything, and especially if
42:55
Speaker 1: there was something of some sighs, you know, bearing a
42:59
Speaker 1: car is quite you know, how deep could they go?
43:02
Speaker 1: So this radar has a way to analyze how that
43:06
Speaker 1: the depths and how significant that um, you know, if
43:10
Speaker 1: it's metal or something that you know, I guess that's
43:14
Speaker 1: what they do. They do some kind of a computation
43:17
Speaker 1: and it determines. So from what we understand, there were
43:21
Speaker 1: three places that they felt some interest. Now you know,
43:26
Speaker 1: again they have to hand that information over to the
43:30
Speaker 1: state police, and the state police have to you know,
43:33
Speaker 1: decide if it's worth digging or going into. Now again,
43:37
Speaker 1: it could be it's like this whole story again. You
43:40
Speaker 1: always get hopeful, but you have to kind of protect
43:44
Speaker 1: yourself from disappointment. You've got to you know, you don't
43:47
Speaker 1: really you want it, but you're scared. The emotional battle
43:50
Speaker 1: within is unbelievable because you've been doing this long now
43:55
Speaker 1: that you want it, but we don't get to choose
43:58
Speaker 1: any of it, you know. So now it's true, Maggie,
44:03
Speaker 1: that other girls similar in age to Molly also were kidnapped. Yes,
44:12
Speaker 1: we have a girl that was ten years old, a
44:15
Speaker 1: little bit younger, um in Sturbridge, which is a twenty
44:19
Speaker 1: minute uh a distance from our home, and she was
44:23
Speaker 1: taken before Molly, maybe seven years. There had been some
44:27
Speaker 1: cases or maybe even a little older that we're in
44:30
Speaker 1: northern Michigan and Massachusetts near the New York border, and
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Speaker 1: there was a gentleman that they thought was a serial
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Speaker 1: killer up there that might have that involved. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's so sad. I mean, you hear these
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Speaker 1: horrible cases, but you don't understand them, and certainly I
44:49
Speaker 1: wasn't one that you know, really understood any of this.
44:53
Speaker 1: You know, now, I know all these families who have
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Speaker 1: struggled and who keep struggling, you know, so ying their
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Speaker 1: loved ones on how they deal with it, and it
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Speaker 1: is very very hard. So you know, again, there possibly
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Speaker 1: could be serial killer out there, and that's what worried
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Speaker 1: us because this to me, honestly, Nancy, how does a
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Speaker 1: normal person do something this horrific? And that is so
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Speaker 1: it's like when you throw the rock into the river
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Speaker 1: and the ripples. It has caused so much pain to
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Speaker 1: Molly's friends, our family out into the community. The fear
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Speaker 1: that he's somewhere, you know, and that's always scared, really
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Speaker 1: captivating me about this one guy. And he is simply
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Speaker 1: been investigated. He has not been indicted, he has not
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Speaker 1: been charged. I'm talking about Rodney Stranger. Rodney's stranger have
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Speaker 1: been living in Southbridge at the time Molly goes missing.
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Speaker 1: He relocated abruptly to Summerfield, Florida, a few months after
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Speaker 1: Molly was kidnapped from her life guard position. Now what
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Speaker 1: really uh interests me about him not not just that
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Speaker 1: he relocated, but a woman that had known him, sister
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Speaker 1: Bodney Bonnie Kieran, told police about a phone call from
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Speaker 1: her sister, who was then murdered, where the sister suggested
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Speaker 1: that this guy may have been involved in murders in Massachusetts. Now,
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Speaker 1: this is based on something I read in the Wooster
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Speaker 1: Telegram and Gazette. He alluded to bish Molly Bush and
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Speaker 1: another girl, Holly Perinan, who disappeared in nine that from Sturbridge,
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Speaker 1: which was directly adjacent to south Bridge. What do you
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Speaker 1: know about that? Call? I know you know a lot
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Speaker 1: more than I do. Maggie. You want to go ahead, Howdy,
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Speaker 1: go ahead? And well, you know that we actually have
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Speaker 1: about seven people with the same same kind of circumstantial
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Speaker 1: evidence surrounding them. Rodney Stanger was just brought forward in
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Speaker 1: the media. So that's that's the greatest struggle for us,
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Speaker 1: because we know, we know about Rodney, but the public
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Speaker 1: only knows about I mean, you know, the public going
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Speaker 1: knows about Rodney, but we know about the six other guys.
47:37
Speaker 1: It's just like Rodney Stanger that are out there. And
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Speaker 1: that's why we put together this movie about Molly most recently,
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Speaker 1: and it was basically two slutify the events of due
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Speaker 1: that we knew what and what our new movie Mom
47:56
Speaker 1: that we just did missing Molly and how can I
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Speaker 1: see that? Um, we we've been sharing it on social media.
48:06
Speaker 1: It's up on my YouTube page, hold on Missing Molly
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Speaker 1: movie and I can find it on YouTube to talk
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Speaker 1: about a three minute movie. And we we had complated.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to go ahead, go ahead, but I just
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Speaker 1: wanted to say that it was an opportunity that we
48:29
Speaker 1: could share again. Young people are so conscious of social media,
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Speaker 1: but we could share it even by Facebook. Somebody knows something. Okay,
48:37
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't even know about it. This is
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Speaker 1: something new to me came out. Would you would you
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Speaker 1: mind if I would you mind if I put this
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Speaker 1: on our website? And and I'm going to direct to
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Speaker 1: everybody too, because is something new for me to learn through. Um,
48:55
Speaker 1: hold on, I lost my track? Okay, so missing Molly
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Speaker 1: and and you're gonna give me the info and I'll
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Speaker 1: put it on crime online dot com. And and again
49:09
Speaker 1: this is this is a case where I mean, what
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Speaker 1: what the you know? We had this bad thing happened
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Speaker 1: and it was horrible and it would change has changed
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Speaker 1: our lives completely. But every single day, every day, almost
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Speaker 1: somebody comes forward and does something amazing or helpful or
49:26
Speaker 1: gives us something. And you know this, this Peter Massey
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Speaker 1: who came up with his ground penetrating radar to look
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Speaker 1: at the campground a couple of weeks ago. That was
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Speaker 1: something that we organized. On the side. I organized as
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Speaker 1: a person that's a criminologist that I know who was
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Speaker 1: you know, worked with him. And you know, it was
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Speaker 1: a long shot halfway down to the basketball court, sort
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Speaker 1: of throwing the ball at the basket. But this person
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Speaker 1: was was generous enough to come up here and donate
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Speaker 1: his time, his skill, his knowledge to help us, you know.
49:57
Speaker 1: And again maybe it was a long shot, but I
49:59
Speaker 1: mean long supper really all we have left at this point.
50:02
Speaker 1: And so again the movie. A friend of IRUs, Kathy
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Speaker 1: Kern from Channel five News, and I were talking one day.
50:08
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I really think I should make
50:09
Speaker 1: a movie about Molly and solidify what happened so people
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Speaker 1: aren't confused because often people will say, well, they got
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Speaker 1: that guy in Florida, he must have done it, or
50:17
Speaker 1: oh I heard about that guy in Western Mountain. You're
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Speaker 1: absolutely and no one follows up the story. And so
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Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that they imprinted it somewhere
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Speaker 1: that here are the facts. Well you know what I'm
50:29
Speaker 1: about to do. I'm about to log on and find
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Speaker 1: Missing Molly's movie that you orchestrated and another thing. Everybody,
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Speaker 1: please write this number down eight seven seven two nine
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Speaker 1: eight five toll free eight seven seven to nine eight
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Speaker 1: five one five five. One day this case will be solved.
51:01
Speaker 1: Molly Bish Still on our minds, still in our hearts,
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Speaker 1: Maggie Heather, Thank you, guys, thank you, thank you. I
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Speaker 1: can't thank you enough. And you will always be one
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Speaker 1: of my most special people in the world and I
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Speaker 1: appreciate it so much. And and you're helping so many
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Speaker 1: people and you're still continuing. And from my Molly, we
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Speaker 1: thank you with all our Nancy Grace crib Story signing off,
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Speaker 1: goodbye friend,