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Mega Edition: Chad Daybell Trial (Part 24) (10/24/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. In
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: this episode, we're headed back out to Idaho to check
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  Speaker 1: in on day number 24 of the Chad Daybell trial.
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  Speaker 1: Once again, we're going to be using eastidahonews.com and the
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  Speaker 1: author of this article is Nate Eaton. 8.37 a.m. Retired
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  Speaker 1: FBI agent Rick Wright, witness number 66, will be on
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  Speaker 1: the stand this morning as defense attorney John Pryor continues cross-examination. 8.38 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Lawyers done meeting with Boyce, Fremont County Prosecuting Attorney Lindsay Blake,
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  Speaker 1: Madison County Prosecuting Attorney Rob Wood, Fremont County Deputy Prosecuting
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  Speaker 1: Attorney Rocky Wixom, and Special Prosecutor Ingrid Beatty are at
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  Speaker 1: the prosecution's table. 8.39 a.m. Jurors are in their seats.
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  Speaker 1: Larry Woodcock is in the courtroom this morning. There are
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  Speaker 1: around 30 members of the public in the gallery today. 8.44 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Pryor begins by showing an exhibit displaying Alex Cox's phone activity.
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  Speaker 1: From September 22nd, the last day J.J. Vallow was seen alive,
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  Speaker 1: Alex was back and forth between his and Lori Vallow's apartments. 8.45 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Another page is displayed showing Alex was on the Daybell
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  Speaker 1: property on certain dates and times. Pryor asks Wright if
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  Speaker 1: he has any information that Chad was also there at
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  Speaker 1: the same time. Wright does not. 8.48 a.m. Pryor displays
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  Speaker 1: an image showing data points of Alex's phone on September 28, 2019,
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  Speaker 1: when Alex was at a shooting range. Pryor asks about
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  Speaker 1: the frog-tog suit that Alex bought at Sportsman's Warehouse and
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: if there was an indication those were worn or used.
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  Speaker 1: Wright says they look new to him. A camo beanie,
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  Speaker 1: set of gloves, and ski mask were also purchased the
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  Speaker 1: same time as the pants. 8.51 a.m. Pryor asks Wright
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  Speaker 1: if Alex bought a hunting license at the end of September.
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  Speaker 1: Wright doesn't recall. Pryor asks about the paintball gun incident
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  Speaker 1: on October 9th and dates the following week where data
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  Speaker 1: points from Alex's device were able to be tracked. 8.53 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Pryor displays an image showing October 9th, the day a
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  Speaker 1: gunman showed up at Tammy Daybell's driveway. Alex's phone was
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  Speaker 1: in the vicinity of the Daybell residence from 4.50 to 5.03 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: and back in his apartment from 5.16 to 9.53 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: The paintball gun incident happened between 8.30 and 9.30 p.m.,
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  Speaker 1: according to Wright. Alex's phone was at his apartment during
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  Speaker 1: the incident. 8.56 a.m. Pryor reviews some other dates and
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  Speaker 1: times of data points from Alex's device. The evening of
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  Speaker 1: October 18th, the day before Tammy died, Alex was at
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  Speaker 1: Chick-fil-A in Hammond at 8.05 a.m. He stayed over an
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  Speaker 1: hour and drove to within a few miles of the
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  Speaker 1: Daybell residence. His device pinged at the Salem church from 10.07
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  Speaker 1: to 10.45 p.m. that night, 9.01 a.m. Pryor shows a
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  Speaker 1: GPS image of the Salem church. He asked Wright to
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  Speaker 1: point out where Alex may have parked. There were data
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  Speaker 1: points matched to his device on both sides of the church.
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  Speaker 1: There's a gap in location data from 10.45 p.m. to 11.53 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: The device then picked up as it was traveling south
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  Speaker 1: to Idaho Falls and registered at the Hilton Garden Inn
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  Speaker 1: a little after midnight. The device stayed until a little
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  Speaker 1: later after 10 a.m. 9.05 a.m. Pryor asks if Wright
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  Speaker 1: looked at other occasions where Alex may have been near
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  Speaker 1: the Salem Church. There were seven occasions where Alex was
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  Speaker 1: in the area and other times where he may have
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  Speaker 1: passed by. I mean, is there any doubt that Alex Cox...
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  Speaker 1: was involved all the way up to his ugly-ass beaver
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  Speaker 1: face with all of this? 9.07 a.m. Pryor has nothing further.
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  Speaker 1: Blake will now redirect. 9.08 a.m. Blake asked Wright when
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  Speaker 1: he became involved in the investigation. November 27th, 2019. She
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  Speaker 1: shows the GPS image of the Salem LDS Church. Blake
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  Speaker 1: asks if there's any indication. Alex knew anyone living in
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  Speaker 1: the area of the church other than Chad. Wright says no. 9.11 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: The distance from the church to the Daybell home is 2.6 miles.
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  Speaker 1: Wright never discovered any connection between Alex Cox and Tammy
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  Speaker 1: Daybell besides Chad Daybell. 9.13 a.m. Wright personally did not
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  Speaker 1: review any location data in relation to Chad and Lori.
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  Speaker 1: He says it's possible other investigators would have. FBI agent
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  Speaker 1: Nick Balance would have been tasked with looking at those things.
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  Speaker 1: Wright only reviewed the one device from Alex. 9.15 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Blake asks if there was any indication Melanie Gibb or
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  Speaker 1: David Warwick were in Idaho on September 8th or 9th.
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  Speaker 1: Wright says not that he's aware of. Blake asks Wright's
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  Speaker 1: beliefs on whether Tylee came back from West Yellowstone. Wright
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  Speaker 1: says Tylee likely returned from her residence or to her residence,
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  Speaker 1: excuse me. Tylee was living in apartment 175 with her mom. 9.17 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Blake shows a slide displaying Alex's device whereabouts on September 9th.
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  Speaker 1: It shows the device went from apartment 107 went to
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  Speaker 1: the Daybell residence, stayed there approximately two and a half hours,
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  Speaker 1: and then went to Del Taco. 9.19 a.m. Blake asks
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  Speaker 1: about the longer driveway behind the Daybell home. The shorter
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  Speaker 1: driveway is in the front of the house. There is
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  Speaker 1: also a gate on one corner of the property that
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  Speaker 1: is wide enough for a vehicle to access the property.
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  Speaker 1: Del Taco, huh? Yeah, I guess killing kids, it works
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  Speaker 1: up quite the appetite. 9.21 a.m. Blake shows the raccoon
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  Speaker 1: text sent September 9th at 11.53am. Chad was at his
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  Speaker 1: home when he sent the text around the same time
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  Speaker 1: Alex Cox's device was at the property. Blake asks Wright
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  Speaker 1: if they were ever looking for a raccoon. He says no.
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  Speaker 1: They were looking for missing children. Those children were found
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  Speaker 1: on Daybell's property. Blake has nothing further. 9.23am. Wright's released
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  Speaker 1: from his subpoena. He leaves the witness stand and sits
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  Speaker 1: in the gallery. Rexburg Detective Ray Hermosillo will now testify.
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  Speaker 1: He was the first witness called to the stand in
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  Speaker 1: this trial. 9.25 a.m. Rob Wood is questioning Hermosillo. He
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  Speaker 1: asked when Lori Vallow was arrested. February 20th of 2020.
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  Speaker 1: She ended up in the Madison County Jail and Wood
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  Speaker 1: asked about the phone system the jail has for inmates
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  Speaker 1: to use to talk with others. It's called Telemate. Hermosillo
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  Speaker 1: listened to phone calls between Chad and Lori. Every day,
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  Speaker 1: we listened to multiple phone calls between Chad and Lori.
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  Speaker 1: We were trying to get any information on the whereabouts
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  Speaker 1: of JJ and Tylee at the time. Chad and Lori
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  Speaker 1: spoke with each other 10 to 12 times a day.
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  Speaker 1: Why did they need to use that system? I thought
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  Speaker 1: that they had portals that they could contact each other with. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: that was bullshit? Not shocking considering we're dealing with two
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  Speaker 1: gigantic bullshit artists. 9.28 a.m. Wood moves to admit an
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  Speaker 1: exhibit of a jail call between Chad and Lori. Pryor
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  Speaker 1: wants to have the entire call played. Wood says he
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  Speaker 1: does not intend to play it in its entirety. Boyce
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  Speaker 1: says if Pryor wants the entire call played, he can
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  Speaker 1: on cross. 9.32 a.m. Wood plays the call. We hear
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  Speaker 1: Lori talking about the second coming. Chad says that the
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  Speaker 1: new Jerusalem will start small, but grow exponentially. They are
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  Speaker 1: doing all they can to destroy one of the key families,
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  Speaker 1: but they're not going to. Chad says. Lori says she
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  Speaker 1: knows too much. She can't deny it. Chad says, I
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  Speaker 1: texted Ray. Wood stops the recording and asks who Ray is.
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  Speaker 1: Hermosillo says Alex often went by Ray Lamar. He had
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  Speaker 1: a Gmail account, raylamar at gmail.com. This call was made
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  Speaker 1: on June 8th, 2020. Alex was dead at the time. 9.34 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Wood asks if Chad talked about being able to communicate
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  Speaker 1: with people who are dead. Chad often spoke about his
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  Speaker 1: ability to see and speak with people On the other
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  Speaker 1: side of the veil, Hermosillo says, Wood continues the call. 9.36 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Chad says he asked Ray what they talked about. He
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  Speaker 1: was very optimistic, Chad says. Lori asks about Ray being
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  Speaker 1: optimistic or Chad being optimistic. Chad says, He said stick
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  Speaker 1: with it. Chad says he remembers last summer one of
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  Speaker 1: his son's friends moved into a trailer in their driveway
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  Speaker 1: because they were going to build a house by the
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  Speaker 1: end of the year. He says they are still there.
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  Speaker 1: Chad says it takes forever. Lori says, We didn't know
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  Speaker 1: when we dug in your backyard. We were going to
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  Speaker 1: find whatever. Lori talks about a show she's been watching,
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  Speaker 1: about a pool installation, and how the project is taking forever.
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  Speaker 1: Lori and Chad giggle back and forth. Imagine being on
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  Speaker 1: trial for your life or waiting for the trial of
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  Speaker 1: your life, and this is the content of your telephone
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  Speaker 1: conversations with your co-conspirator. 9.39 a.m. Lori asks what Ray
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  Speaker 1: said when Chad texted him. Chad said he just laughed.
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  Speaker 1: He said it will all work out. He didn't want
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  Speaker 1: me to say he misses you, but he's not far
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  Speaker 1: from contact. We can text him whenever we want. Lori
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  Speaker 1: said she can't text anybody. Chad has to text for her.
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  Speaker 1: Chad says he will text him back. Chad says he's optimistic.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go visit him and grab him by
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  Speaker 1: the throat and say, really? Lori asks if he can
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  Speaker 1: make them a guarantee because they did make their down payment.
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  Speaker 1: Chad says he knows you pretty well. He just laughs.
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  Speaker 1: Chad giggles. 9.41 a.m. Chad says he asked Ray about
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  Speaker 1: the video project. Wood pauses the recording and asks about
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  Speaker 1: the video. Summer Shifflett, Lori, and Alex's sister had posted
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  Speaker 1: a video online about Alex after he died. The recording
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  Speaker 1: continues to play. Lori and Chad talking about completing their
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  Speaker 1: project on time and if they get a bonus. Chad
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  Speaker 1: says it was good to talk. I haven't texted him
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  Speaker 1: in a while. Chad tells Lori to write down some
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  Speaker 1: questions and mail them off to see if he will
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  Speaker 1: respond to them. 9.43 a.m. Chad tells Lori he's still
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  Speaker 1: very interested and hasn't forgotten about us. He's involved in
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  Speaker 1: this latest batch. Lori asks Chad to find out about
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  Speaker 1: the 3% aspect that they would be trouble. You know
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  Speaker 1: exactly what I'm talking about, Lori says. Chad responds, I do,
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  Speaker 1: I do. She then says, you know what I'm talking about?
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  Speaker 1: He says, I do. 9.46am. Lori asks why it's 100%
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  Speaker 1: instead of a 3% chance of having problems. Chad says
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  Speaker 1: he was somewhat right In that, but the other aspect
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  Speaker 1: was other people. It was a combination. Chad says Lori
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  Speaker 1: says her faith in those kinds of guarantees are lower.
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  Speaker 1: Me too, Chad says. Lori says beggars can't be choosers.
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  Speaker 1: I get that. I don't get to pick the colors. 9.48 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Chad says he thought back on the entire scenario. Chad
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: says he said it wouldn't be a problem. Lori mentions
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  Speaker 1: the blueprints and the plans. Lori asked Chad if he
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  Speaker 1: thinks it was meant to have complications or go that direction.
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  Speaker 1: Chad says, at some point, yeah. Lori, then we should
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  Speaker 1: have said this is a 99% chance that we are
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: going to have trouble with this spoil. That's all we
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: are asking. Could this potentially be good, or do we
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: have to fill it with sand? Chad says, we sense
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  Speaker 1: we shouldn't take it lightly, and I don't think we did.
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  Speaker 1: We only discussed the matter, the trouble, once, and I
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  Speaker 1: thought we cut it off, and did well, and now
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  Speaker 1: that problem is kind of causing its own trouble for itself.
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  Speaker 1: Lori says, There are other things in the project where
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: we're going to end up going back over it, and
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  Speaker 1: I could have easily done or been inspired to do
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  Speaker 1: to avoid a lot of the issues that are going
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  Speaker 1: to come up with that. 9.51 a.m. Lori asked Chad
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  Speaker 1: if he thinks it was meant to go this way.
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  Speaker 1: He says, I do. Minor changes here and there, but overall,
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  Speaker 1: this is all part of the blueprint. I just wish
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: it hadn't been. But I'm thinking of previous blueprints where
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: the people weren't either. You know, Ray's in that contractor
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  Speaker 1: position for a reason. and he's not going to drop
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  Speaker 1: us for another project, Lori responds. Can't he forcibly use
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: a hand and punch some people in the face to
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: get things done? Some people in particular, like the 3%-er person,
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  Speaker 1: Chad says. I don't think he wants to be violent,
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  Speaker 1: Lori says. I'm not saying be violent. Just get their attention. 9.53 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Lori says in the beginning, going back over the whole
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  Speaker 1: blueprint and all the things, a lot of the stuff
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  Speaker 1: could have been avoided with minor tweaks, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why it had to go down the road with...
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  Speaker 1: Where we are now in the project. Chad says, I know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't fully understand. I think we would text you
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  Speaker 1: back or write you back, Lori says. What I need
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  Speaker 1: from you is the project is going to be finished.
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  Speaker 1: And everything is going to be fine. And it's going
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  Speaker 1: to work out. Chad says, that's what he said. Lori says,
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  Speaker 1: I need you to tell me that every day. Chad says, okay, sweet,
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  Speaker 1: lovely Lola. Things are going to work out. Not just
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  Speaker 1: because he says so, but because I know so. It's
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  Speaker 1: a marvelous plan. Lori asks, how do you know? Chad responds,
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  Speaker 1: it's been shown to me, honey. I've seen beautiful eyes
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  Speaker 1: filled with tears, and I've seen your wonderful body dance
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  Speaker 1: to heavenly songs. What an absolute fool. And to anyone
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: out here thinking that Chad Daybell was just getting led
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  Speaker 1: around by his dick, you're crazy. This dude was a
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  Speaker 1: willing participant, and not only that, was helping drive the ship. 9.56 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Hermosillo says in multiple calls Lori asked Chad for reassurances.
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  Speaker 1: We return to the call. Chad says it'll be the Eurythmics,
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  Speaker 1: the band, not two solo careers. Chad says he has
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  Speaker 1: absolute confirmation. He tells Lori her value is tremendous and
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  Speaker 1: needed in every way. I know that is a fact.
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  Speaker 1: You are needed, my love. I think you underestimate yourself.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to give you a big head
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  Speaker 1: or ego because you don't have one. You just are
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  Speaker 1: spectacular and the Lord is going to use those talents.
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  Speaker 1: You are on earth at this time for that purpose.
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  Speaker 1: Chad says he will try to call them back so
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: they can pray. The call is over. Wood has no
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  Speaker 1: further questions. 10 a.m. Morning break. All right, so we're
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: going to break here as well. And in the next episode,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to pick up where we left off. All
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  Speaker 1: of the information that goes with this episode can be
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  Speaker 1: found in the description box. What's up, everyone? And welcome
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: back to the program. In this episode, we're getting right
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  Speaker 1: back to the Chad Daybell trial. And we're going to
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  Speaker 1: pick up where we left off with day number 24. 10.36 a.m.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: We're back in the courtroom and attorneys are at their table.
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  Speaker 1: Pryor is reviewing an exhibit and chatting with Lindsay Blake.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: Hermosillo is on the stand. Boys and jurors are not
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: seated yet. 10.44 a.m. Hermosillo has stepped down from the
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: stand and we are waiting on the judge. Attorneys are
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: talking back and forth with each other. Chad is chatting
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: with Pryor. 10.46 a.m. Boyce is back on the bench.
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  Speaker 1: He says the morning recess was extended for administrative matters
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: and prosecutors have a proposed exhibit for the next witness.
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  Speaker 1: For efficiency purposes, Boyce wants to hear about the exhibit
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  Speaker 1: now and make a ruling whether it can be admitted. 10.48 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: To be clear, this is an exhibit for the witness
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  Speaker 1: after Hermosillo. The exhibit is a PowerPoint and prior objects
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  Speaker 1: to one of the slides in the exhibit. 10.49 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: The issue is with slide number 18. It references an
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: internet search done by the Homer J. Maximus account searching
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  Speaker 1: for a gun on October 9th. There are two images
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  Speaker 1: on the slide, an overview of the Daybell property with
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: a measurement from a tree on the property and a
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: measurement from the end of the driveway. 10.50 a.m. Pryor
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  Speaker 1: objects and says there isn't any relevance in having a
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  Speaker 1: measurement at the end of a long driveway. He argues
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: they are taking an arbitrary point and connecting it to
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: the site where J.J. was buried. There is no relevance
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  Speaker 1: to this. It's merely designed to just inflame the jury
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  Speaker 1: and try to support their so-called theory that the paintball
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: gun was something other than a paintball gun. 10.53 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Blake argues the driveway is an issue and a significant
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: amount of time was spent during the trial discussing it.
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  Speaker 1: She says there has been testimony of the shooting ranges
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: and distances. She says her main argument is given the
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: questioning by defense that Alex used the shooting ranges for
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: hunting practice or that Chad may have been the intended victim,
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  Speaker 1: it should be admitted. 10.55 a.m. Boyce agrees with the
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  Speaker 1: defense that the exhibit is problematic because the measurement goes
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: from the burial site to the driveway. He says it
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  Speaker 1: was not the driveway referenced when testimony was provided about
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  Speaker 1: the alleged attempted shooting. Boyce believes this could confuse the
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  Speaker 1: jury and partially sustains the objection. The maps and property
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  Speaker 1: measurements are permitted, but the top left part of the
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: exhibit can't be admitted. 10.59 a.m. Jurors are being brought in.
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  Speaker 1: Hermosillo will return to the stand for cross-examination by Pryor. 11.02 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Jurors are seated. Pryor asks about the recording between Chad
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: and Lori and asks if there was information about Chad
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: needing to build a village for the end of times.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Hermosillo doesn't recall a village, but recalls putting up tents.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Pryor asks about a safe space when the second coming occurs.
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  Speaker 1: Hermosillo isn't aware. 11.03 a.m. Pryor asks about Lori saying,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: I don't get to pick the colors of what I want.
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  Speaker 1: Pryor asks if that suggests them talking about building buildings.
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  Speaker 1: Hermosillo says no. Pryor asks if anything in the discussion
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  Speaker 1: is actually about building a structure. Hermosillo says no. 11.04 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: This call was on June 8th, 2020. At 9.16 p.m.,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: less than 12 hours later, police were at Chad's house
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  Speaker 1: searching his property for JJ and Tylee. 11.06 a.m. Pryor
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  Speaker 1: asks about Chad having a refuge in Rexburg in the future.
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  Speaker 1: Hermosillo says he can't testify about what Mr. Daybell planned
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: to do in the future. Pryor moves to admit to exhibits.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: 1110 a.m. Pryor displays an image showing items found in
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Lori's garage. The picture shows three rolls of duct tape,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: a fire lighter, several spray cans of something, maybe a
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: substance to clean guns with. 1113 a.m. We now see
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: an image of a knife and a saw. There is
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: also Dremel. a tool that is used to drill out
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: certain things. These items were found in the garage. 11.15 a.m.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: The next photo shows some tools and a tarp. Another
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: picture shows a bucket and gloves. These photos were taken
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: by law enforcement. 11.16 a.m. The next photo shows a tarp.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Prior asks Hermosillo if he remembers how many tarps were
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: found in Alex's garage. Hermosillo doesn't remember. Prior asks if
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: it would be fair to say there were several. Hermosillo
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: says he doesn't know. 11.19 a.m. Another photo shows a
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: bunch of items in the garage, various chemicals, buckets, etc.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Prior asks Hermosillo if he can see anything that resembles cement.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Hermosillo says not that he can tell. Another photo shows
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of black and white plastic in a clear tub. 11.20 a.m.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: The next picture shows a pair of bolt cutters. The
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: next image shows a bag of concrete and several buckets. 11.21 a.m.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Pryor says a significant number of knives, weapons, and guns
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: were found in the garage. He asks Hermosillo when and
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: where all the guns and knives were purchased. Hermosillo says
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: he personally did not know. Pryor says the purchases could
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: have taken place in Arizona or in Idaho. Hermosillo says correct. 11.22 a.m.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Pryor has nothing further. Wood has no redirect. Hermosillo is
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: done testifying and is released from the subpoena. 11.24 a.m.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: The next witness is Attorney General Investigator Nicholas Edwards. Boyce
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: says there's a brief issue that needs to be taken
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: up outside the presence of the jury, and the jurors
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: are asked to leave the courtroom briefly. Edwards apparently heard
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: portions of the James and Elena story on the radio.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: He was aware of the substance and heard nothing new.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: He says it won't affect his ability to testify. Pryor
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: has no objection to the witness. Boyce says the witness
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: is fine to testify. 1129. a.m. Edwards has worked for
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: the Attorney General for five years. He worked for the
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Pocatello Police for 15 years before joining the AG. 11.32 a.m.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Edwards worked in SWAT and did sniper training in Pocatello.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Blake is questioning him and asks if Edwards worked closely
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: with rifles, including assault rifles. He has experience with rifles
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: as he serves in the National Guard. Edwards also used
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: paintball guns personally for recreation, but he has also trained
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: with them. 11.33 a.m. In April of 2020, Edwards and
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: his office received a request to assist Fremont County and
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: multiple agencies in investigating the deaths of J.J., Tylee, Tammy,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: and Charles Vallow. A large part of Edwards' investigation was
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: focused on Tammy Daybell's death. 11.35 a.m. Edwards conducted interviews
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: and reviewed phone data. Blake moves to admit a PowerPoint
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: exhibit showing Edwards' findings. 11.37 a.m. The first slide shows
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: a timeline of events created by Edwards. 11.38 a.m. Edwards'
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: timeline begins when Chad and Lori meet on October 26, 2018,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: in St. George, Utah. Chad's Google account searched for Lori Vallow,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Charles Vallow, and Lori Vallow photos on October 30, 2018.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Lori lived in Mesa, Arizona at the time. 11.39 a.m.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: On November 16th and 17th, 2018, Chad traveled to Mesa
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: and stayed at Lori's home for a Preparing the People conference.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Chad traveled back to Arizona on January 6th through the 10th, 2019,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: and divorce proceedings between Charles and Lori started February 8th, 2019. 11.41 a.m.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Edwards never found any indication that Chad was planning to
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: divorce Tammy from March 19th Through March 21st, 2019, Chad
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: traveled to Arizona with plane tickets that had been purchased
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: by Lori. Charles and Tammy were still alive at this time.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: On April 2nd through the 4th, 2019, Lori traveled to
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Idaho Falls. From May 5th through May 7th, Chad and
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Lori conducted separate internet searches for Malachite rings. So what
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: they're doing here is establishing the whole timeline, right? Or
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I should say, not even establishing it at this point,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: but hammering it down. And what this is doing is
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: showing the jury exactly what these two were up to.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: And all of it is documented by these conversations and
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: their behavior. And when you add it all together with
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: all of the other evidence that has been presented, what
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: you have basically is a gift-wrapped conviction. 11.42 a.m. On
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: June 29th, 2019, Charles sent Tammy an email regarding the
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: ongoing relationship between their spouses and requests contact. Charles also
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: sent Chad an email confronting him regarding the affair. 11.43 a.m.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Charles was killed less than two weeks after the email,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: on July 11, 2019. On July 2, Charles told Lori
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: he was going to Idaho Falls to meet with Tammy.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Lori texted Charles, She won't see you. She's my friend.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: She won't listen to you. Go ahead. You are ridiculous.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: There is no indication that Charles ever traveled to Idaho
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: to meet Tammy. 11.44 a.m. Edwards reads some text messages
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: between Chad and Lori from July 13th, 14th, and 15th.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Chad says he's going to bed to snuggle tightly with you.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Another message, I need so badly to just gently kiss
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: you for hours. Another message, I would likely lead to
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: other activities. Lori replies, likely or luckily. Chad replies, it
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: would luckily lead to nakedness. The thought of these two
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: naked is enough honestly for me to pour acid in
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: my eyes. Talk about PTSD. Seeing Scafusa and the Stunad naked?
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Just too much to even think about for me. 11.46 a.m.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: There are more romantic messages with lots of fire and
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: heart emojis. Lori sends a message on July 15th saying
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: that she's taking off from Vegas and wishing Chad were
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: on the other side of the flight. 11.48 a.m. On
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: July 18th, Lori texts Chad about Charles changing his life
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: insurance policy beneficiary to Kay Woodcock. She says it was
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: probably Ned before we got rid of him. Ned was
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the evil spirit inside Charles, Chad and Laurie said. Edwards
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: reads more messages from July 18th and 22nd. 11.50am. Blake
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: asks Edwards where Chad and Laurie were married. In Hawaii.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: She asks if Tylee and JJ were present. They were not.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: The next slide shows a text from Chad to Laurie
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: on July 26th. It's the Harry Potter text. Tonight I
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: figured out who I feel like. I'm a grown up
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: version of Harry Potter who has to live with the
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Dudleys in his little space under the stairs. Every few weeks,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I get to escape and have amazing adventures with my
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: goddess lover, but then I have to return to my
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: place under the stairs feeling trapped. But I sense permanent
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: freedom is coming. Oh, I bet you do. As you
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: guys hatched this plan to kill your wife and Lori's kids,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that you sensed your freedom was coming. But
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: what you didn't plan for, you dumb prick, is the
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: fact that you're not a prophet, you don't speak to
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: the heavens, and your bitch ass was never gonna get
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: away with it. 11.52 a.m. Edwards reads a text from
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Chad to Lori on July 30th. He says they might
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: need to release a little steam when they talk. He
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: talks about using a chart to determine the light and
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: dark percentages of people. He wrote that Tammy was feeling
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: lightheaded as if her body and spirit were being separated.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: 1154 a.m. In August of 2019, Chad traveled to Arizona
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: to stay with Lori. On August 14th, 2019, Lori took
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: a screenshot of two Malachite wedding bands, We now see
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: a slide that shows Zulema past in his travel to
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Rexburg on September 15th, 2019. Chad texted Lori, please have
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Zulema send a message to me that she's in Rigby
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: and wanted to see if I could come listen to
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: her talk tonight about her trip to Chile. Lori sends
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: the message to Zulema. Zulema sends a message to Chad
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: asking if he could come hear her speak. He responds
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: that he can come. 11.57 a.m. On October 3rd, 2019,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Chad texts Lori, Good night, Angel Lily. So excited to
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: go on our date. Chad texts her the next morning,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Dreaming of caressing you in bed. I adore you. And
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: whatever the hell that word is, you. On October 4th
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: and 5th, Chad urges Tammy to go visit her family
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: in Springville, Utah. Oh, I bet you did. Let me
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: get a little bit of time here with the Scafusa alone. 11.58 a.m.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Tammy makes it to Utah. On October 4th, Chad texts Lori,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: that he is eager to see her soon, and he's
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: trying to hasten her departure. Same day, Chad texts Lori,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: it's dragging on here, but I should be at your
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: house around 11.15. I want to talk to you first,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: of course, so maybe tell her I can come and
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: talk from 12.15 to 1. Lori texts Alex, we are
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: supposed to go on a real date tonight, but we
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: are discussing it. Perhaps an evening at home would be better,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: so we are not out and about. I'll let you know,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: but you could come and sing with us after your shower.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: There were three deleted messages on Lori's iCloud account from
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Chad on October 5th, 12.01pm. The next screen shows several
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: texts from Lori Vallow to Chad Daybell before the attempted
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: shooting of Tammy Daybell. The first message is, Hello sweet angel,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: big news about Tammy. The short version is that she
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: has been switched. Tammy is in limbo. A level 3
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: demonic named Viola. Chad says Samantha, Tammy's sister, and the
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: evil spirit along with her 12-year-old daughter Chad says he
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: has communicated with Tammy, and Tammy is frustrated about it.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Chad tells Lori to check and get confirmation. Chad says
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Samantha is much like Brandon Boudreau, Lori's former nephew-in-law, has
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: been his biggest obstacle, and never comes to see them
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: in Idaho. 12.04 p.m., lunch break, back at 1. All right,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: we're going to wrap up here, and in the next episode,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: we'll finish off day number 24 of the Chad Daybell trial.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: All of the information that goes with this episode can
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: be found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: welcome back to the program. In this episode, we're getting
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: right back to day number 24 of the Chad Daybell trial.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: And to do that, once again, we're using eastidahonews.com. And
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: the author of this article is Nate Eaton. 104 p.m.,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: back in the courtroom. Chad just walked into the courtroom.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: He does not have leg shackles, but appears to be
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: wearing an ankle monitor. Voices on the bench and jurors
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: are in their seats. Blake will continue questioning Edwards. 1.12 p.m.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Blake continues with the timeline. On October 7th, Alex signed
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: into the St. Anthony gun range. On October 8th, he
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: conducted an internet search for 6.5 Grendel drop from 100
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: to 200 yards, then drop from 100 to 300 yards.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: On October 8th, Alex signed into the St. Anthony gun range.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: He also conducted a search that day. for the Rhode
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Island area code. 1.14 p.m. On October 9th, 2019, at 9.15 p.m.,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: a 401 number from a phone is used by Chad Daybell.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: That phone to this day has not been found. Edward says,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Chad's real phone had a 208 number. Alex had a
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: burner phone with a 334 area code. His real phone
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: had a 480 area code. There were 90 calls and
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: text messages between Alex, Chad, Zulema, and Lori between 9.21 a.m.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: on October 9th and 2.28 a.m. on October 10th, 1.16 p.m.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: 15 text messages were sent between Alex and Chad between 7.13 p.m.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: and 8.43 p.m. that night. Lori and Zulema were in
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Arizona that night doing a casting ceremony. Four text messages
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: were sent between Chad and Alex between 10.28 p.m. and 10.29 p.m.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: that night, 1.17 p.m. On October 9th, 2019, there were
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: text messages between Chad's burner phone and Alex between 1.19
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: and 1.22 p.m. Both devices were near Alex's apartment at
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the time. With Chad's real phone, there were eight text
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: messages during the same time frame. The devices were near
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Alex's apartment. Between 2.40 and 3.18 p.m., Alex's device traveled
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: to Sportsman's Warehouse in Idaho Falls. The purchase happens at 4.11 p.m.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: We see a slide showing the items that were purchased.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: That same day at 4.51 p.m., Alex's device goes to
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Fremont County and drives past the Daybell residence. Alex did
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: not know anyone in the vicinity other than Chad, Edwards says. 1.21 p.m.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: A 911 call was made from Joseph Murray, Tammy's son-in-law,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: about an attempted shooting at 9.41 p.m. In an email,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Tammy told her son Mark the incident occurred at 9.15 p.m.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: The event was not called in immediately. Blake shows a
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: photo of the Daybell home and a GPS overview image.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Edwards points out the two driveways on the property. 1.23 p.m.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Tammy emailed her son Mark on October 13th, 2019. She
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: wrote that she was coming home from clogging and pulled
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: into the driveway. Someone was at the back of the
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: car and she thought it was dad there to help
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: carry things in. She said it was a masked man
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: and she yelled, what are you doing? Tammy says she
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: thought about hitting him with her clogging shoes. She yelled
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: for Chad and ran in the house. Tammy initially identified
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: the weapon as a rifle, not a paintball gun. 1.25 p.m.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Blake asks if anything could resemble a hopper on a rifle.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Edwards says a scope could. Edwards said the individual kept
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: pulling the trigger and pointing the gun at her. 1.26 p.m.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Blake shows two guns on the screen. It's Alex's 6.5mm
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Grendel AR. The bottom image is a paintball gun. Edwards
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: points out where the hopper is on the paintball gun.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: On the firearm, he points out where the scope is.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: They're in similar places. Edwards noticed the front of the
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: AR has been modified to something that could be attached
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: to the front of the rifle. Edwards says that could
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: have been a suppressor. If a suppressor is on a gun,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: it would make a whooshing sound. 1.29 p.m. Edwards points
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: out a gap between the lower and upper receiver of
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: the gun. He says there are two pins on the weapon,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: a front and rear takedown pin. Those pins keep the
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: weapon together. He says if you take the rear takedown
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: pin out, it comes apart. Just turning the gun caused
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: the rear pin to come out. It didn't take him
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: anything to do that. Most weapons, those pins sit secure
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: and tight, Edwards says. If the pins become loose, the
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: gun could still fire, but likely only one round, even
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: if someone kept pulling the trigger, Edwards says. 1.32pm. There
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: are six text messages between Chad and Lori between 5pm
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and 12.28pm on October 9th. Edwards lays out the events
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: of the evening of October 9th. While the Fremont County
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: deputy is at the house, there are texts between Chad
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: and Alex and between Chad and Lori. Alex calls Zulema
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: and has a 38-minute phone call with her at 11.28 p.m. 1.34 p.m.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Edwards never reviewed the contents of the text messages. Alex
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: conducted an internet search on October 9th on how to
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: clean an AR. On October 11th, he performed a variety
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: of fun searches online. A few included what caliber would
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: penetrate a windshield, 2008 Dodge Dakota steel body thickness and
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: what gauge steel are the doors on a Dodge Dakota
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: made of? And I'm sure all of that's just a coincidence, right?
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: That he was looking up all of that information about
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: the Dodge and then he's not the guy that tried
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: to kill Tammy, huh? Okay, sure. We all believe that. 1.39 p.m.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Tammy's phone was active playing games at 10.22 p.m. At 11.28 p.m.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: a single image is deleted from Tammy's phone. Chad sends
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: two texts to Lori. at 1134 and 1135 p.m. Alex's
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: phone leaves the LDS Church parking lot at 1146 p.m.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: 141 p.m. The morning after Tammy died on October 20th,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Lori sends a text to Chad saying she is missing
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: him and she needs him to hold her tight. Lori
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: asks about him flying to Hawaii and maybe she should
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: just return home. Chad asks Lori to come home so
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: they can spend the night together. He says he needs
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: to take care of the financials Chad tells her to
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: look for a condo for them. I want to get
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: working on Lily's workout plan. Tan my skin, grow out
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: my hair, flatten my stomach. 1.43pm. Lori was in Hawaii
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: at the time they were texting. The last message from
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Chad says, I know exactly how you feel. I'm feeling sad,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: but it isn't for the reason everyone thinks. 1.44pm. Lori
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: asks Chad what is on his agenda. He says he
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: needs to meet with the mortuary, but he hopes to
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: talk in a few hours after he gets his parents
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: to go home. Lori says she is going to Sacramento
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: to see Lisa. Chad responds, I love you, Lily. Eagerly
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: anticipating our alone time. 1.46 p.m. Chad and Tammy both
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: had life insurance policies for $ 300, 000 each that were established
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: on March 19, 2002. Tammy also had a $ 130, 000 policy
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: through the school district. Chad received payouts from both policies. 1.47 p.m.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Chad gave Alex the patriarchal blessing on November 24th, 2019.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Edwards reads part of it. The last sentence stuck out
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: to Edwards where Chad said, You have already assisted us
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: in many ways that can never be repaid. Yeah, well,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: killing some kids probably falls into that category, huh? 1.49 p.m.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Chad searched for Rexburg Police Department on December 1st. He
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: searched for Tammy's obituary on December 5th. Tammy was exhumed
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: on December 11th. Alex was found dead on December 12th.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Chad Daybell searched several things on December 16th, including authorization
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: to disinter a body in Utah. Utah Administrative Code Springville City.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: So that's quite the coincidence, right? That Tammy's body gets
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: exhumed and then the next day Alex Cox just happens
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: to drop dead. Who's buying that? And I think that
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: needs to be revisited because I highly doubt that this
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: dude just happens to die the next day. 1.50 p.m.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Edwards assisted in the search for JJ and Tylee at
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Daybell's house. He was present when JJ's body was found.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Blake has no further questions. Pryor will now cross-examine. 1.54 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: We're taking an afternoon recess back at 2.15. 2.17 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: We're back in the courtroom. Pryor will now question Edwards.
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  Speaker 1: He begins by listing the law enforcement agencies that provided
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  Speaker 1: information to Edwards to help prepare his summary. Edwards says
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  Speaker 1: that is correct. 2.20 p.m. Pryor asks if Edwards has
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  Speaker 1: tracked the number of calls between Chad and Lori on
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  Speaker 1: a daily basis. Edwards says no, only on particular days.
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  Speaker 1: He did not look at how frequently Chad and Lori
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  Speaker 1: communicated on a regular daily basis. Edwards focused in on
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  Speaker 1: certain days because that's where the investigation led him. 2.22 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: Pryor says he wants to review the timeline. He lists
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  Speaker 1: off dates of Charles being killed, Laurie moving to Rexburg,
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  Speaker 1: the attempted shooting of Brandon Boudreau, Tammy's death, Chad getting remarried,
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  Speaker 1: and Alex's death are all on the timeline. 2.25 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: Pryor asks if it would be unusual that two people
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  Speaker 1: enamored with each other would Google search each other. Edward
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  Speaker 1: says he doesn't find that unusual. 2.27 p.m. Pryor asks
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  Speaker 1: about the searches Chad and Laurie did for Amalekite Rings.
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  Speaker 1: Edwards doesn't recall why the Malachite was so important. Pryor
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  Speaker 1: asks if he knows when Lori and Chad specifically began
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  Speaker 1: their affair. Edwards says he can't give a specific date. 2.29pm.
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  Speaker 1: Pryor asks if Tammy Daybell blocked Charles Vallow's email to her.
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  Speaker 1: Edwards doesn't know. Pryor asks about the romantic, sexual James
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  Speaker 1: and Elena story. Pryor says this story could have nothing
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  Speaker 1: to do with the murders of three people. Edwards doesn't
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  Speaker 1: agree with that. Pryor asks where it says let's kill
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  Speaker 1: two kids. Edward says you won't find those words. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: that's because as stupid as they are, they know they
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  Speaker 1: can't just come out and say it. So they just
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  Speaker 1: make all of these little innuendos. And they say the
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  Speaker 1: plan or the plot. But we all know what that means.
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  Speaker 1: And after 24 days of testimony, you better believe the
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  Speaker 1: jury knows what it means, too. 2.32 p.m. Pryor shows
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  Speaker 1: a text from July 30th when Chad sent Lori a
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  Speaker 1: text about releasing a little steam. He wrote, anyway... This
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  Speaker 1: is a chart that checks what percentage mortals are still
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  Speaker 1: in their body. It worked for my friend's wife who died,
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  Speaker 1: my neighbor, George Bush, Stanley, etc. I kind of forgot
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  Speaker 1: about it because I've been dealing with zombies and demonic entities.
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  Speaker 1: Pryor asks Edwards if he ever found that chart. Edwards
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  Speaker 1: has not seen that chart. 2.35pm. Pryor asks if the
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  Speaker 1: chart has anything to do with a specific religion. Edwards
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  Speaker 1: says he doesn't know what chart Pryor is talking about
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  Speaker 1: and is not going to speculate. 2.36 p.m. Pryor asks
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  Speaker 1: about the paintball episode on Tammy's driveway. You're suggesting as
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  Speaker 1: a possibility that maybe it could have been a gun
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  Speaker 1: that someone was using with Tammy Daybell? Is that fair?
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  Speaker 1: Edward says that's 100% fair. He believes it was a rifle,
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  Speaker 1: but admits he wasn't there. 2.41 p.m. Pryor asks about
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  Speaker 1: eight text messages between Alex and Chad on October 9th.
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  Speaker 1: Pryor asks if any of the messages were duplicates. Edward
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  Speaker 1: says he can't recall. Pryor asks if he checked that
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  Speaker 1: some of the messages were counted twice. Edward says he
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  Speaker 1: can't answer that. 2.43 p.m. Pryor asks Tammy about being
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  Speaker 1: shot on October 9th. Then on October 11th, Alex's device
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  Speaker 1: Googled how to drill baffles to make a suppressor. 2.46 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: Pryor asks about other Google searches from Alex's device. where
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  Speaker 1: he looked up how to build your own silencer. Pryor
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  Speaker 1: asks about October 18th when Alex's phone does not provide
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  Speaker 1: data between 10.45 and 11.53 p.m. He was near the
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Daybell residence at the LDS Church from 10.07 to 10.45 p.m. 2.51 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: Pryor showing different pages from the exhibit and asks clarifying questions.
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  Speaker 1: Pryor's drilling down on Alex's activities from 10.45 to 11.53 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: He asks Edwards where Alex's phone was during that time period.
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  Speaker 1: Edwards says his phone was not providing data during that time,
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  Speaker 1: but was at the LDS church. 2.55 p.m. Pryor asks
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  Speaker 1: Edwards when Tammy and Chad opened up the $ 300, 000 life
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  Speaker 1: insurance policy. Edwards says it's on the slide. Pryor responds where?
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  Speaker 1: It's at the top of the slide. March 2002. 2.56 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: Pryor asks about the content of the text messages between
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  Speaker 1: Chad and Lori. and how we don't know what was
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  Speaker 1: being said. Edwards says he believes he knows based on
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  Speaker 1: his experience and training. Prior as nothing further, Blake will
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  Speaker 1: now redirect. 2.58pm Blake asks why Edwards focused on specific
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  Speaker 1: days during this investigation. He says there were significant events
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  Speaker 1: that happened around those days. 3pm Blake shows a slide
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  Speaker 1: detailing events from the evening of October 9th. Alex and
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  Speaker 1: Chad were texting each other around that time Tammy had
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  Speaker 1: been shot at. Blake asks about Chad having contact with
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  Speaker 1: Lori and Alex around the time Tammy was pronounced dead.
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  Speaker 1: Edwards confirmed it happened. 3.02 p.m. Blake asks about the
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  Speaker 1: connection between Tammy and Alex. Edwards says Chad Daybell. Blake
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  Speaker 1: asks where Lori's children were discovered. Edwards responds, Daybell property.
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  Speaker 1: Edwards is finished. Boyce calls for a sidebar to discuss scheduling. 3.07 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: State has one additional witness who will be called tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: He's the last witness for the state. It will also
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  Speaker 1: be a short day tomorrow. Court's dismissed for today. All right, folks,
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  Speaker 1: so that's going to do it for us as well
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  Speaker 1: and for another day at the Chad Daybell trial. And
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  Speaker 1: the fact that the prosecution is moving so quickly through
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  Speaker 1: its witnesses just goes to show you how they're slamming
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  Speaker 1: it home. And I don't think it matters what sort
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  Speaker 1: of defense that Chad Daybell and Pryor attempt to put
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  Speaker 1: up because the evidence is clear, in my opinion. and
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  Speaker 1: that evidence points directly towards a conviction of Chad Daybell.
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