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  welcome to multiple nerdgasm with your hosts Matt it's all
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  bit hearty so I don't really understand it Luke is that a little sashwat penis
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  Dan I accidentally got soap in my urethra and occasionally Terry smallo
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  maybe you wake up in the middle of the night with a little sashwat pis inside
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  of you multiple nerdgasm your guide to
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  all things
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  nerdy I'm back obviously good day Matt you uh survived back the beach you get a
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  tan i' got a little bit of a thong line on my uh on my foot so I should clarify
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  before before anyone in in America freaks out I mean what we call Flip
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  Flops everywhere else in the world flip flops I don't have a thong line as you
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  might think of it I don't want to freak anybody out no that's it's exactly what I was
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  imagining the fact we call what everyone else calls flip-flops thongs has gotten
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  me into trouble a couple of times here because they don't know what that's
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  called did I tell you the story about when I was talking about kind of casual
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  wear in the office back home no and I'm like you know they don't really care
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  like you know girls can walk around in their thongs and nobody's going to say
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  anything and everyone's like what oh that's great yeah I don't know
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  why is that cuz we we're just a pain in the ass down here yeah we just changed
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  it I guess yeah where where did it even come from I don't know but in our
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  defense I'm pretty sure you could get flipflops before you could get g-strings
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  right I have no idea definitely well definitely I I've seen Jesus Christ
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  wearing sandals you know I've never seen him wear a g
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  string yeah yeah I'm thongs was the correct term was were were around way
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  before Juice drinks yeah Dan I know you're Googling and I know you're going
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  to you're going to find it oh goodness you know you are well there's a few
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  different things the internet yeah the internet you bound to find it all right
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  enough of that let's talk about Batman versus Superman we've all seen it yeah
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  do we want to go around just start off with saying whether or not we liked it
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  Okay who wants to who wants to go first I I saw it last so I'll go first okay
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  okay it was terrible just absolutely
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  terrible the ending of that movie are we going to could have I pck there's going
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  to be spoilers but this isn't a spoiler I picked about five different times that
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  movie should have ended but it just kept going and going all right we'll get to
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  the specifics of what we liked and didn't like let's just let's just keep
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  going around the circle Matt do you want to go next or do you want me to go next
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  uh you can go next we'll go in descending order of having seen it just
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  look I don't know if this is going to surprise anyone but I [ __ ] loved this
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  movie what it's not perfect and there's lots about it that I didn't like but the
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  amount I did like it made up for that like I felt like I was 10 years old
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  watching this movie to me this is 100 times better than any of those like 10y
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  year Marvel movies that we get now really yeah this was just superheroes being
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  superheroes so shocked to he I will criticize all the all the shitty bits
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  and there were they were but I just
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  thought it it was just such a look it wasn't about plot it was about theme you
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  know like the theme of man versus God and all of that stuff and I just found
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  that really interesting they haven't done that in a movie like this before
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  interesting okay I I'll give you my list of things I hated about it too but
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  that's my overall stance well
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  I I was fairly we we as you may have heard Jenner and I recorded uh
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  Impressions after the screening we got we're lucky enough to get invited to a
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  preview screening thank you Road Show Australia and I recorded like straight
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  after afterwards spoiler-free uh and I was fairly like just meh about it see I
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  thought you were quite I thought you were quite positive about it especially
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  compared to Jenna in your review well
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  now having kind of thought about it more and discussed it a little bit with
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  people I'm definitely on the I'm leaning
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  more towards dislike MH M um I think I
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  was maybe yeah I don't know I feel very much the same as I feel about his other
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  movies Zack Snider I mean yeah so we can get into that a bit too if you like yeah
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  but yeah I'm I'm on the I'm on the if the if you know just neutral is in the
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  middle I'm on the negative side of that yeah yeah I didn't hate it okay I had a
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  feeling I was the only one who liked it I'll watch it I would watch it again I didn't hate
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  it yeah it's it's not doing well uh critically but it is doing well man
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  still making the money yeah it's [ __ ] raking it in yeah always going to do in
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  other words it's actually beaten every other comic book movie ever at the box
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  office yeah yeah not if you just not if you were just for inflation though I think
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  if you adjusted for inflation Superman the movie from the
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  70s uh would make like a billion dollars today this is why I still say think they
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  should go off ticket sales not the money yeah I know number well they always do
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  this every every year there will be a new highest selling movie because
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  everything costs more every year that's just how how everything works same with
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  like it annoys me when they do that and also when they do video games like Call
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  of Duty sold more than any other film yeah it also costs 10 times as much yeah
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  does to see a film so shush yeah yeah that's right like yeah so are we going
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  to go spoilers on this um I think there's been a couple of weeks you've
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  you've had your chance to go and see it if if you haven't seen it yet you
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  clearly don't care yeah it's going to be difficult to dissect what we liked and
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  didn't like without spoilers well especially since I'm I'm sure one of the
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  two main things we all didn't like comes right at the end sure yeah yeah but yes
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  we will talk about spoilers um we'll try and put in the show notes um the point
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  where you can skip forward to yeah if you don't want to if you don't want to
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  be spoiled on the movie I spoil stuff pretty quickly so yeah yeah okay
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  spoilers from now then do we have a spoiler do we have a spoiler alert
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  jingle um maybe we should I have one that for
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  necronom uh W for the other the other podcast that I do L we see where your
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  [ __ ] loyalty lies man do you want me
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  to use that spoiler one no I don't no well here it is anyway it's time for some
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  [Music] spoilers that still works um but seriously we're going to talk about
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  spoilers so if you haven't watched this movie yet turn the podcast off now there
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  you go yeah yeah all right Bruce Wayne is
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  Batman I think Dan's head just
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  exploded all right yeah
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  so man where do you want to start like I don't there's quite a lot here to
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  discuss if we want to look I'm not going to be an apologist for this movie okay
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  because I know this is you know it's not going to win any Academy Awards right so
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  I mean I'm I'm happy for us to start off by just getting it out of the way
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  putting all the stuff out there we didn't like look I really like Let's do
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  let's do things we did like first okay I really liked Ben Affleck as Batman
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  agreed yeah I think he did it great except for the fact when did Batman
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  start killing people yeah in the comics is that that's not his fault and also in
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  the Michael Keaton movie kills dozens of people yeah yeah no I I don't have any
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  problems with killing people I know people do I don't care like that's fine
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  whatever [ __ ] off I do I feel like it's a little hypocritical of Superman to be
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  getting up his ass about you know branding people and killing people or
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  whatever when Superman's flying around knocking [ __ ] buildings over on
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  people I actually feel a bit hypocritical of both their parts yeah I
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  agree I I think that is one of the biggest flaws in this is that
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  everybody's motivation is a bit Yeah but I don't that doesn't bother me because I
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  thought the kind of relationship that they had was that they were blinded to
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  their own flaws and they could only see them reflected in each other which is
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  why they hated each other so much for
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  really no reason sure okay um I really
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  did not like Superman in this movie I'm not thought caval was is is fine as
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  Superman like I mean it's not his fault unless unless unless not you find
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  Superman boring yeah unless he played
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  Superman this way you know ignoring the script which had Superman be a little
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  bit different but it's just Superman was just a it's
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  [ __ ] whiny like H [ __ ] got to save people again I guess like even when they
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  show him being a hero it's like this depressing [ __ ] door that he's got to
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  perform like it's just I don't know and then the the one scene where he could be
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  a hero and save people like normal everyday people when the bomb goes off
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  in [ __ ] Congress that's and he's just standing there
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  going and I've seen him move pretty fast before too like yeah you know he got to
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  Africa pretty quick he's just standing there feeling sorry for himself I was
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  like [ __ ] this isn't Superman and I I don't I again I shouldn't that's not
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  really fair because it doesn't matter what Superman is because Man of Steel
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  established that he's different in this series and he was different in this
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  movie so it shouldn't really matter so I guess that's not a fair criticism but I
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  didn't like him as a character yeah Wonder Woman I thought was great oh my
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  God she was fantastic she was but she didn't do much well she was only in
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  there to set up for her own movie but galad do [ __ ] smashed it man yeah
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  sure sure I thought she was she was interesting and they didn't go over the
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  top with her like I was waiting for like a ah you know chick that kicks ass and
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  I'm glad they didn't go down that route he's just a competent competent fighter
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  and investigator if you will yeah that's one thing I think that investigated I
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  think Batman wasn't really a detective in this one he was more than he usually
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  is remember when he got the Kryptonite and then he did his workout scene while
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  Alfred worked on it for him I thought that was a bit strange JY
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  is [ __ ] great so good and and as far as I can tell he's not a butler cuz I
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  saw Bruce Wayne bringing him a coffee and then I saw Alfred doing all this rad
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  [ __ ] and that is so good yeah [ __ ] Jeremy L is great I I will
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  watch the [ __ ] out of the Standalone Batman mie they make as long as I mean
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  we can talk about this when we get into the stuff we don't like I didn't like
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  the action in this movie at all and it includes a lot of the Batman stuff we
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  can talk about that in a bit yeah um well you've heard that it's with the
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  Batman movie that Affleck wants to ride it himself yeah I know Zack Snider is
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  not directing apparently Zack Snider is doing Justice League one and two m
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  that's my understanding also apparently Affleck has written a script
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  but there's no guarantee that that's the script they're going to go with cuz I
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  bet it's [ __ ] he's only signed on to do the Justice League movies so he hasn't
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  signed on to do a separate Standalone movie yeah surely they'll do and I think
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  he's trying to go look I'll do it as long as we do this script yeah yeah well
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  that would be interesting because I I like Affleck as a director probably
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  better than as an actor so I'd see that yeah all right I I would I would watch
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  it we're going to go see no matter what they put out let's let's face it this is
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  why they're still making a half a billion dollars off us for a movie
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  that's not getting great reviews I
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  um uh what else did I like um I don't
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  know I liked the first half of the movie more than I liked the second half which
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  is apparently not what a lot of people say I think
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  that's exactly my feeling I well it seemed to me like online people were
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  saying oh it was slow but then it got really awesome at the end and I was like
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  really it all don't listen to 14-year-old kids on the internet no man
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  I thought that opening where it overlapped with the other movie but you
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  saw it from Bruce Wayne's point of view was a [ __ ] great way to start yeah I
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  liked that a lot I liked um I people complain about this too because they
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  already know where Batman came from I don't care it was good they covered it
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  in the opening credits and got it out of the way and it was cool good like like
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  you know I think it was a nice like cuz it is a new Batman so they weren't going
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  to go back and do a whole origin story they just went yeah here they never
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  going to not explain it just in case you know what I mean and also it's set up my
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  least favorite thing about this film so well we can talk we talk about
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  that later well we can talk about that now if you want to segue into that all
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  right well my least favorite thing in this film yeah
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  is when Batman is about to kill Superman
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  cuz he established that he [ __ ] hates this guy and thinks he has to die and
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  he's devoted his entire life he's turned into an evil Twisted human being because
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  he's obsessed with murdering Superman and he's about to kill him and then he's
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  like Mara why did you say Mara and then Lois Lane runs and he goes Martha is his
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  mommy's name five let's name I love you bit of a coincidence isn't it I mean if
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  it wasn't imagine it wasn't his mom's name oh Carrie's going to die I don't
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  know who that is don't give a [ __ ] that was so dumb and also he shouldn't have
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  mattered he should have been like that's a weird coincidence die yeah I don't
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  understand like from that there's no real end to their conflict it's just
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  okay so our mothers had the same name so we're going to work together now plus
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  was he confused and he be like [ __ ] is my long dead mom in
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  trouble that's right it was like yeah I
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  probably Martha before we saw the film right there was a bunch of trivia at the
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  screening up on beforehand like you know just Batman and Superman trivia and one
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  of the questions two of the questions were what are the names of the parents
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  of of the individuals and um obviously Superman's was a trick question because
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  his parents are Lara and Dell derell yeah but um you know some of the people
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  were with were like oh isn't it you know Martha and Jonathan Kent and then Ben
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  O'Brien from big head mode said huh hey wait their mothers have the same name
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  why aren they just friends and and so when I think that when that happened in
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  the film we all just started laughing yeah which I think maybe that's what
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  ruined it so much but now everyone else seems to say the same thing it's
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  ridiculous right not a good plot Point not a good plot point no like it just it
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  doesn't make any sense they didn't know how to make that sort of fight between
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  them end and make them work together so they just we'll just go with this but JP
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  through such [ __ ] Hoops to make it so that they fight at all it took like an
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  hour and a half of movie just to set up this ridiculous scenario where all right
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  Superman's not going to kill him but they are going to fight like doesn't
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  it's just I don't know so contrived one of the parts I found the worst in the
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  movie was actually the time travel part bit odd wasn't it middle of the
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  movie where yeah who who is it that comes back from the future it's flash
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  apparently FL Flash comes back gives him this warning yeah but then and then he
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  wakes up and it's a Dream It's s of like no you either have that in the movie or
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  you don't that's not a dream it's weird it doesn't make any sense yeah that was
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  odd that was odd and they I know they're setting up to explain something and tie
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  in with another movie at some point but at the moment it just is completely out
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  of place and makes no sense get to see Steam in a [ __ ] trench coat yeah but
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  that didn't that was pointless as well see I thought that that was just like if
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  they had explained all that in this movie I would have been disappointed I'm
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  glad that there's a lot to this mythology that they kind of hinting at
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  and just saying like we're World building here like well that's that's
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  supposed to be what happens if Superman's a [ __ ] right yeah but he's
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  not he's just a wingy [ __ ] so you know I don't I don't know it's like it was
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  Batman's nightmare of what could happen and it explained why he thought he
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  should kill him but then he and he didn't it's like I don't know it's a little bit weird
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  yeah yeah and the other thing I really didn't like was Lex Luther oh Christ the
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  worst the worst but you know what I how that happened thinking like what a weak
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  performance and then all the reviews I've listened to during the week like
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  all the nerd boys are just [ __ ] praising him man and I don't get it what
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  cuz that I thought was the weakest part of the whole film it's like he watched
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  all or somebody else watched and told him Heath Ledger Joker that's right go
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  even up to your like arms kind of up for no reason next to your body when you
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  talk you know like it was an impersonation almost and a bad one but
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  but but a poor one I don't know it's just didn't I didn't buy it at all see
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  Heath like I don't know Heath Ledger [ __ ] sold the whole thing this was
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  just I don't know age it just bugged me every time and I didn't what the [ __ ]
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  was his motivation in this film like he he wanted Batman to kill Superman
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  so he was sending Batman all his hate mail that Batman didn't even get right
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  because they didn't give it to him and then to make them fight and then but he
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  didn't want Batman to have the Kryptonite for for no apparent reason
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  and then Batman took the Kryptonite anyway and then so he had it but then he
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  also made doomsday like well my second
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  worst character in the film like how did he even know that that would happen with
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  Luther I really wish they had have gone with their first pick for him which
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  Brian Cranston oh that would have been amazing yeah that would have been so
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  much better well especially cuz he wouldn't have done it like that yes it's
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  like he's just if he's just in the world doing crazy [ __ ] cuz he's like a
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  psychopath that's not Lex Luther really although again that's a poor reason to
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  dislike the film because I should ignore what I know about the characters cuz
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  it's it's a new thing what about this what about Batman trying to track down the
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  Kryptonite how did he know the Kryptonite was there he got the information
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  from he was Ching Portugal before he got the computer yes but then he found out that
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  it was a ship yeah but he was he knew about all that beforehand he didn't know
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  it was a ship beforehand did he he knew it was he knew knew it had the
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  Kryptonite and that's what he wanted that's what he was chasing down right
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  but he didn't know what it was right he knew he he knew that he knew that the
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  Kryptonite was with the white Portuguese or whatever but how did he know that oh
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  he uh no they didn't as far as I know that was that's something that just they
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  hit the ground running he's already halfway through an investigation he's
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  follow begin and this is why I felt weird they went through a lot of details
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  to explain some things and then other things they just skimmed over yeah sure
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  yeah okay yeah yeah okay and doomsday shows
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  up at the end and that was just [ __ ] and you know what it's like we watch and
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  it was and everyone's like oh it's doomsday and they're like no it might
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  not be we're not saying who and like well it's doomsday no not saying it is
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  and then of course it's doomsday yeah that was that was just
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  boring yeah like there's nothing interesting about that fight scene at
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  the end it was like just boring the fight scene was actually quite good for
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  one thing whereas Batman sort of did nothing in that fight just kept out of
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  way which is true he there's no way he could have been able to participate in
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  that fight he had one Kryptonite [ __ ] grenade left and he used that at one bit
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  and it made Doom they sneeze yeah and then and then he was like [ __ ] this I
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  think that's the biggest problem with with this is [ __ ] Batman shouldn't be
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  there like if Superman is in danger go home yeah and you know what
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  like speaking of him being there did
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  anyone not know until this movie that uh metropolis and Gotham is separated by a
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  small Bay thought like separate sides of
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  everyone just assumed it was like New York and Los Angeles right yeah Chicago
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  I think Gotham City's based on Chicago yeah and yeah but but obviously yeah but
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  since they're not just called the same thing they're different cities right if
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  you like two cities right next to each other is one city right yeah we have
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  Sydney and we have North Sydney we don't have North Sydney and Melbourne yeah
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  like that's right yeah that was weird unless it was like I don't know a
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  misleading camera angle no it can't be that mly no she took a
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  helicopter there yeah I know and yeah he flew uh the bat the Batwing there in
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  about 10 seconds to go get um Martha
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  Kent yeah after he murdered all those people I'm friends with your
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  son yeah that was it like she just watched him blow up a man yeah and she's
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  like seen a lot you know what I realized though while watching that is that Diane
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  Lane play Superman's you know mother essentially right yes but in the movie
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  Hollywood land she plays the wife of the guy who played
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  Superman which is played by Ben Affleck who played Batman in this
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  movie right they one about the guy who got killed right yeah yeah or killed
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  himself oh I spoilers sorry seriously
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  Hollywood land great movie but I think that that makes Affleck the
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  only person who's ever played Superman and Batman he's also played another
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  character that I would like to talk about later mhm mhm okay
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  um yeah uh what else I didn't like the way they introduced the other characters
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  Lex Luthor gave them all a schnazzy name and a little logo so weird awful and
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  spent so much like just having the one scene with it where Batman was looking
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  at the Wonder Woman one and just having the flashes of the other one yeah that
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  would have been enough but also how does he know their
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  logos yeah well he invented them but from the from the look of it yeah so
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  they're just going to they're going to go oh thanks for that yeah that's right
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  oh I've just uh I didn't do that for you I just did that to uh just to customize
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  my desktop yeah exactly I often give uh
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  various people logos uh this is my uh Lexi Bell folder she's got a little logo
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  and uh sponsored by Lex cour hey I didn't didn't realized that's
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  why that was the first thing that popped into my head but that is a good it's a
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  good excuse to use when I'm asked all right we all know you like Lexi Bell who
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  was also being in a Batman film oh yeah not not not this one not this one though
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  not one like this at all the ending yeah why did they kill Batman off I Superman
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  off because Zack Snider hates Superman and he's a [ __ ] pain in the ass to
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  have in these movies because he's too powerful so he was like get rid of him
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  but he'll be back well maybe in some form he'll be back who
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  knows all right he'll be back but yeah I don't know yeah that was just pointless
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  I really it was kind of like it seemed like the ending was like all right let's
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  get this Death of Superman [ __ ] out of the way because but they didn't have to
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  do that like they didn't have to do the death of Superman I doomsday in there
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  and like this they could have just written another movie It's called Batman
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  versus Superman right and and that was about 10 minutes like it set that up for
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  about an hour and a half and then they fought for 10 minutes and then they
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  became friends cuz of their Ms and then and then it was like a whole other thing
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  that happened like even if you keep most of the film the way that it was it could
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  have been Lex manipulates them into fighting and then they fight at the end
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  and then they for some reason they realize that Lex is manipulating them
• 24:48
  makes more sense for that to be the [ __ ] reason they bond and then Lex
• 24:52
  they go let's get him yep like I don't know that makes more sense to me
• 24:57
  although they couldn't a big fight with him at the end cuz they would just crush
• 25:01
  him yeah so I agree but you know what none of that mattered to me and I don't
• 25:05
  know why I just thought the vibe of this movie was spoton like you liked Man of
• 25:11
  Steel though didn't you uh yeah I did but I have the same criticism with Man
• 25:16
  of Steel as I do for this which is that all the setup and the exposition and all
• 25:21
  that I really really love and then the last half an hour is just a dumb fight
• 25:27
  yeah look I that's the other thing too right I I know I probably was more
• 25:31
  positive on the night that I saw it and I mean I didn't dislike it when I was
• 25:35
  watching it it's just afterwards when I thought about it I was like well that
• 25:38
  doesn't make any sense there's a lot of flaws in it but I just enjoyed it and
• 25:43
  there's just no denying that and this this might be controversial but I think
• 25:50
  Affleck is a better Batman than Chris you know a lot of people said that I
• 25:53
  think he's more rounded I think his Bruce Wayne is more interesting I agree
• 25:57
  yeah um so I agree with you on that and I I'll I'll watch more of these you know
• 26:04
  yeah yeah I'm definitely going to go back and watch the next ones but I still
• 26:07
  just I don't know I just I struggled even sitting through this I wasn't
• 26:11
  enjoying it when I was there oh really I think there were just little things that
• 26:15
  coming up like when what when Superman's gone
• 26:20
  to when that bomb goes off and L Lane rocks up and shows a media pass to get
• 26:25
  past the cop to go and go stand in the of a barricade with a lot of
• 26:31
  protesters just confused me me sitting there going what I didn't like like it
• 26:37
  confused me how he's able to tell that Lois Lane is in trouble in [ __ ]
• 26:41
  Afghanistan but his mom gets kidnapped yeah he doesn't know about it and also
• 26:45
  when they're having this big battle at the end the whole City's exploding and
• 26:48
  he's like that sounds like Lois Lane drowning like even though she's not
• 26:52
  saying think it's just some tapping yeah that was I don't know yeah it's it's
• 26:56
  just it's Superman like it's too many contrivances yeah look you got to make
• 27:02
  allowances for the fact that the guy can literally do
• 27:05
  anything you just got to put limits on it yeah yeah I think my main problem
• 27:11
  with with it is like I said I felt the same about soccer punch I didn't enjoy
• 27:15
  socker punch afterwards when I thought about it h but at the time I was like oh
• 27:20
  okay that's fine uh same with Man of Steel and same with this and my main
• 27:24
  issue is that the way that just the way that Zack Snyder does
• 27:28
  action yeah just I don't care about anything because I can't see what's
• 27:34
  going on everything's just like turned up to [ __ ] 15 and not only that like
• 27:39
  the whole photography style changed during the fight scenes like suddenly we
• 27:43
  had all these crash zooms and stuff we've never had in the movie before yeah
• 27:47
  like there was a really cool sequence with the Batmobile right but the camera
• 27:51
  was just [ __ ] oh we can see the wheel we can see the gunfire we see just
• 27:54
  [ __ ] move the camera back like it's not like you're hiding a small budget or
• 27:57
  anything yeah that's right [ __ ] let me let me see stuff like I don't know
• 28:00
  it's just too too much you know and then and then I stopped caring and it like it
• 28:06
  just becomes like I get I'll wait for this to finish and the the explosions to
• 28:11
  stop and then I'll figure out what happened just it's too much for me maybe
• 28:18
  I'm getting old no I find that in all movies at the moment with those fights I
• 28:24
  agree with that is it editing is it the editing like cont contrast that with
• 28:27
  something like [ __ ] Mad Max Fury Road right where I felt like I knew what was
• 28:33
  going on I knew where everybody was in in the world at the time you know when
• 28:37
  when something's happening yeah there spal awareness yeah whereas in in in this I
• 28:43
  just felt lost like I I don't even what am I looking at like oh did Wonder Woman
• 28:47
  just chop his arm off I don't know because it was just like two frames of it like I
• 28:54
  don't yeah yeah I agree with that y
• 28:58
  didn't I saw a trailer for Suicide Squad before it oh yeah and I don't know if
• 29:05
  I'm looking forward to that now or it's just because they had Bohemian raps City
• 29:09
  what music for it that I that got me excited I'm not sure I've seen that
• 29:12
  trailer but quite honestly I'm not that excited but I wasn't that excited about
• 29:17
  Superman V Batman either I'm interested to
• 29:21
  see um Suicide Squad because I think
• 29:25
  it's maybe going to be a bit different h then then you know it's the different
• 29:31
  Joker that we've seen but then I don't know people keep complaining about how
• 29:34
  all the characters are different now so I think you know the other thing right
• 29:37
  DC has gone so dark with these movies like I think that's the other thing I
• 29:43
  Marvel's having fun yeah the Marvel movies feel like fun whereas this felt
• 29:48
  like [ __ ] like dire true but I always felt that was the difference between
• 29:53
  Marvel and DC yeah you're probably right you know the other thing too is I've
• 29:59
  tried to look into uh trying to you know educate myself a bit because I have
• 30:02
  always been more of a Marvel fan I guess yeah read more Marvel comics in DC yeah
• 30:08
  see I like I like Batman but I didn't really like any of the other characters
• 30:10
  that much and I've been looking into them and I'm was like yeah I just don't
• 30:14
  really like these characters very much yeah sure I don't know why yeah no I like
• 30:19
  Batman and I like sort of his villains but then I Branch out from there and
• 30:25
  it's sort of like there's no one there that really grabs my attention he's the
• 30:28
  he's the odd one out in in DC right because all of them are really really
• 30:33
  powerful and he's just a guy yeah that's
• 30:37
  right so that's that's why he's interesting well exactly and I think
• 30:42
  that's why I like him and I don't necessarily like the others yeah sure I
• 30:47
  feel like if you contrast uh and I I hate I hate that this always comes down
• 30:51
  to one of the big arguments is right oh you didn't like this movie that's
• 30:54
  because you like Marvel like well I I don't think that's true think I think I
• 30:58
  didn't like it because I didn't like it like I don't necessar I'm not biased
• 31:03
  because of my love of Marvel I love Batman as well I just I don't know
• 31:07
  didn't I didn't like this movie as much but I feel like with the the Marvel ones
• 31:10
  the action is more grounded [ __ ] off
• 31:14
  what you mean no way I no I think the action there is still completely insane
• 31:19
  no way the first 10 minutes of [ __ ] Age of Ultron which oh okay sorry I
• 31:25
  didn't like Age of Ultron for the same reason yeah sorry to clarify that I feel
• 31:29
  like Age of Ultron did the same thing uh as this and Man of Steel where it's just
• 31:34
  too much mhm I'm talking about sorry to clarify I'm talking about movies like uh
• 31:40
  Captain America in particular Winter Soldier mhm um like the [ __ ] car chase with
• 31:47
  Nick Fury and then I don't you know what I think the difference is Marvel shoot
• 31:51
  their scen during the day and Batman shoot their at night that's true maybe I think the
• 31:57
  first event was less like that but definitely volon
• 32:01
  suffer in the same way um and hopefully they re that back in a bit but like
• 32:08
  say yeah like uh the Captain America movies The Iron Man like it's it's it's
• 32:13
  a guy in a metal suit right but he's not like all powerful but one of the one of
• 32:18
  the Avengers is actually a God right
• 32:23
  God sure but he still gets beat you got a guy in a suit
• 32:28
  and a God it's like it's just as ridiculous yeah okay maybe it's not a
• 32:34
  character thing maybe it's just I don't I don't like the way Zack SN does Action
• 32:39
  maybe that's all it is I completely agree except 300 which [ __ ] and Watchman
• 32:45
  and Watchman right is great yeah because again I feel like it's more grounded
• 32:50
  it's not like yeah they're not Invincible or anything they're just
• 32:53
  people Y and so he kind of had to re it in a bit maybe that's that's all it is
• 33:00
  um while there's a petition apparently to stop him from directing the Justice
• 33:04
  League movie um I'm not going to bother signing that because that's silly that's
• 33:09
  fine because Hollywood's not going to listen to you anyway of course I got
• 33:13
  this petition say even though he made this movie into a $420 million smash
• 33:19
  people seem to they don't care yeah they don't care what you think I like how it
• 33:23
  says so far the petition has over 5,000 signatures the goal is 7 and a half
• 33:27
  thousand like who decided that was the goal yeah look we didn't get enough
• 33:32
  likes to go and get con we're not going to get enough [ __ ] likes on
• 33:37
  this oh dear one thing I did like that I noticed in the opening credits that I
• 33:42
  thought commendable is that Bill Finger has co-edit as creator of Batman with
• 33:47
  Bob Kane because as far as I know every other Batman movie just says created by
• 33:53
  Bob Kane yeah so Bill Finger you're my of the
• 33:59
  week the week of the
• 34:06
  week nice yeah no that's cool he deserves it if we want to stay on
• 34:10
  superheroes but we're done talking about Batman v Superman and we want to switch
• 34:15
  back over uh I know that I just want to say one more thing and that's thanks
• 34:19
  again to Harriet at Road Show for inviting us to the screening and also
• 34:24
  for sending us a copy of the art of Batman vers Superman and yeah that looks
• 34:29
  good yeah no the book is cool cuz like I said one of the things I really like
• 34:33
  about the film is Batman's stuff yeah agreed so yeah and I think they played
• 34:39
  that quite well as well MH what I'm hoping is going to be better cuz this is
• 34:43
  cuz this is setting up for the next movie so they did cram so much in yeah
• 34:48
  try get story I'm hoping now that maybe the next ones they might be able to
• 34:51
  settle down a bit and actually focus more on the story then trying to plan
• 34:56
  ahead for it if that makes sense that's fair I think cuz with Marvel they
• 34:59
  had a lot of other movies building up to it yeah they established every character
• 35:05
  in in a few movies first yeah whereas this one they've had Mana steel and then
• 35:08
  bang we're going for it yeah H yeah but I mean this is the mashup do you know
• 35:14
  what I mean this is not Man of Steel part two this is there was Man of Steel
• 35:19
  now it's already Superman versus Batman oh and Wonder Woman's kind of the third
• 35:22
  she's on the poster as well yeah what did you think let's let's talk
• 35:26
  specifically what we thought because of the cameos right because I thought
• 35:32
  [ __ ] Aquaman looked [ __ ] looked absolutely [ __ ] and I don't understand
• 35:37
  why they just held on that shot of him staring into the camera what camera is
• 35:41
  he staring into exactly yeah I know and then cuz then he
• 35:46
  smashed uh the Little Submarine thing which obviously was not the camera cuz
• 35:50
  he smashed it that's right exactly right so that looks [ __ ] and I don't really
• 35:54
  like Jason so I don't know if I'll necessarily see that movie you know but
• 35:59
  uh flash maybe yeah but we didn't really see anything no we saw him go fast but
• 36:03
  you know soups can go fast and that [ __ ] cwalk thing looks like a like a
• 36:07
  TV show it looks like it looks like they shot that on cheap video too and I mean
• 36:11
  like not a modern TV show cuz TV shows are pretty [ __ ] impressive now in the
• 36:15
  last couple of years I'm talking about it looked like a TV show like uh from
• 36:19
  the '90s yeah like Warehouse 13 or something well the the reason why that
• 36:24
  might feel like that to you is cuz the guy in it is Henry from Europe
• 36:28
  R oh yeah right no it's miles Dyson from um Terminator 2 as
• 36:34
  well so that that could be that slight connection there hopefully he um he
• 36:39
  reprises his iconic role and um gives us his you know his famous
• 36:48
  catchphrase classic yeah but um so what's the next DC movie
• 36:54
  after this apart from suide Squad uh I don't know what the order of the films
• 36:59
  is you know what I bet they've already figured it out DC movie timeline yeah
• 37:03
  I'm pretty sure they've got it till 2020 for them as well cuz I'm actually Wonder
• 37:08
  Woman I'm actually looking forward now I think they set that up yeah it's it's
• 37:12
  got her it's got Chris Pine and it's got some other people watch I like her I
• 37:15
  like Chris Pine so so yeah suicide
• 37:17
  squads next then Lego Batman then Wonder
• 37:23
  Woman that's as far as this goes okay so what I've got here we've got
• 37:28
  Wonder Woman and Justice League in 2000 so next year oh Justice League next year
• 37:32
  as well y okay um then in 2018 we've got
• 37:37
  the Flash and Aquaman which I don't know I think they're doing that back to front
• 37:41
  I think they should maybe do the Flash and aquam first and then go to Justice
• 37:44
  League it would make more sense to do separate films but maybe they feel
• 37:49
  they're doing they're doing Justice League before the others yeah what yeah
• 37:53
  but maybe that way these Standalone films can just be
• 37:58
  Aquaman going on an adventure and not Aquaman's origin story and then the you
• 38:03
  know the flashes the Flash's origin story like maybe if we just get them all
• 38:07
  together then these can just be movies about these Heroes now but to me what
• 38:12
  they're probably going to end up doing is trying to push the origin stories
• 38:16
  into the Justice League movie cuz remember at the moment they're not the
• 38:20
  Flash and everything there's just some people they've seen on camera so they're
• 38:24
  not their characters yet I mean Lex Luthor knows that he's the Flash but he
• 38:27
  doesn't he doesn't know himself yet yeah he's already named him the Flash and
• 38:30
  come up with a little logo for him then in 2019 we have Shazam oh yeah and
• 38:35
  Justice League 2 does that star Shaquille O'Neal I hope so it stars
• 38:40
  Dwayne Johnson [ __ ] close call him by
• 38:44
  his name Dwayne the Rock John I am the RO and then in 2020 we have Cyborg and
• 38:51
  green lanon green lanter they're going to re yeah of course they are okay I noticed
• 38:56
  there's no Martian Manhunter and if he's not in the Justice
• 39:00
  League movie I'll be disappointed which I know he won't be so there you go maybe
• 39:05
  he will maybe he'll show up I hope he does man always like Russ
• 39:10
  man I like I like those characters in the Arkham Arkham games mhm so I like I
• 39:16
  like them when they're on Batman's terms I just don't like them when they're on
• 39:19
  Superman's terms play the Arkham games you get into those you haven't played The Batman
• 39:24
  games play play three of them there's one Origins don't play that one okay
• 39:30
  yeah that's the one I borrowed off you that you've not asked for back
• 39:34
  Luke that where that is yeah I haven't played it either I started to play it
• 39:38
  and then I was like I might just play Arkham City again Arham City the big expansive one
• 39:44
  right oh it's [ __ ] great Arkham Knight is the new one for Xbox One and
• 39:48
  apparent I haven't played it yet apparently it's great that was a great
• 39:51
  game is that out already yeah okay maybe I'll pick that up cuz I I am in the mood
• 39:55
  to be Batman all right can we talk about uh this is another superhero I would
• 39:59
  like to talk about I feel like yeah it's well it's sort of related in a way
• 40:04
  because I feel like man [ __ ] why isn't DC doing something like this with
• 40:08
  [ __ ] Batman because I'm watching I'm talking about deadevil I watched I've
• 40:12
  watched all of the first season of Daredevil I [ __ ] loved it and I mean Daredevil's
• 40:18
  particularly uh kind of an ideal superhero for me to like cuz he's got
• 40:23
  two things going on he's a [ __ ] lawyer so he's solving crime and [ __ ] so
• 40:27
  he's like you know doing a bit of investigating during the day and then at
• 40:32
  night he's beating the [ __ ] out of criminals as a superhero and he's got
• 40:35
  superpowers but they're not extreme superpowers he's he's been blinded but
• 40:41
  he's got um enhanced hearing and stuff so that he can see uh kind of by
• 40:47
  echolocation sort of it's a bit different in the TV show to how they
• 40:50
  showed it in the yeah it's bit different to how they showed it in the in the old
• 40:53
  Ben Affleck film thank God cuz that film was atro yes it was um yes it was the director's
• 40:59
  cut of that film is better but it's still got some stuff in there I'm like
• 41:03
  who the [ __ ] thought that was a good idea but anyway look Matt I really want
• 41:07
  I really want to meet you halfway on this because I watch Daredevil as well
• 41:11
  and did you you watch the first season or have you watched more no I watched
• 41:13
  first season only okay that's good cuz I I'm going to watch the rest but I
• 41:16
  haven't seen more so here's my here's my opinion every single scene with
• 41:21
  Daredevil in it is the best series on TV
• 41:25
  right now mhm but every other scene is a
• 41:30
  wacky setup for foggy Nelson and Karen to be doing some crazy things and I
• 41:36
  can't stand it really yeah pick one don't Mash two shows together a really
• 41:43
  dark one and a really light wacky one pick one yeah kind of I guess that's what I
• 41:48
  like about it it's like I like i' I enjoy the it's kind of
• 41:53
  like um what do you what is it NCIS or something yeah a bit lighter in tone
• 41:58
  than NCIS but mixed with Batman yeah yeah pretty much and the Batman stuff's
• 42:04
  good I love that stuff I was watching like like there's but I don't watch NCIS
• 42:09
  So maybe that's the [ __ ] fight scenes in this show are amazing good like he
• 42:14
  Daredevil [ __ ] kicks the [ __ ] out of people and they have some great fight
• 42:17
  scen and and they're very brutal and it's very it's violent and intense and I
• 42:22
  was commenting there's kind of a big fight scene at the end of this which I
• 42:27
  won't spoil everyone watched it you should watch it it's really good um and
• 42:31
  I was like why isn't there a [ __ ] Batman show like this well they've DC
• 42:37
  has done a few things they've done the Gotham Gotham one which was about
• 42:42
  Commissioner Gordon does that could not could not make that through one
• 42:46
  episode I've realized that to be fair I
• 42:49
  haven't watched Arrow or Flash FL flash or any of those shows are they like that
• 42:56
  have you have you seen they're not they're not like Daredevil no I didn't
• 43:00
  think so they're more like free to a shows [ __ ] Eureka or those kind of
• 43:05
  shows right yeah yeah episodic like a Smallville yes yeah exactly right that's
• 43:10
  what I that's why like they're not having the same flash in the television
• 43:12
  show as are in the movies they keep those two worlds are separate they're
• 43:17
  light the cuz this this daredevil show is not light it is like it is an adult
• 43:22
  television show for adults half of it is half of guy gets his [ __ ] head
• 43:28
  smashed off in a door yeah and then it's foggy Nelson doing worky one liners I
• 43:33
  don't understand it wasn't it's not that goofy hate him can't stand him is he
• 43:39
  hate foggy I hate foggy man that actor is uh the only other thing I've seen him
• 43:44
  in is um ID hands I know maybe that's why I can't take him seriously but I
• 43:49
  happen to know Matt that you [ __ ] love that movie I it was the first movie
• 43:53
  I ever bought on DVD pretty sure I watched house at one stage and Idle
• 43:59
  Hands is great if you haven't seen it ladies and gentlemen go you we should
• 44:03
  [ __ ] do that for necron nomenon good I can't believe I thought I did I did
• 44:06
  watch it at your house I watched Idol hands with you and Dave when you lived
• 44:09
  in Eastwood yeah you must yeah yeah definitely that's when I bought it cuz I
• 44:13
  didn't I didn't have a DVD player and Dave did yeah so I started buying them
• 44:17
  and then later on I got one and now what's a DVD player hey
• 44:21
  quick question because you you um raised a very valid point like why isn't there
• 44:25
  a Batman TV series yes and I was thinking recently with the success of
• 44:31
  the 1960s Batman which was just like went Gang Busters why didn't they do a
• 44:38
  Superman series at the same time right yeah I just can't think of why like
• 44:44
  today if you did a Batman movie and it went really well the studio would be
• 44:48
  like right do a Superman movie same with a TV show the only thing I can think I
• 44:53
  mean Superman works is well and he's difficult because cuz how do you put
• 44:57
  Superman in danger unless ask Kryptonite again I mean there have been Superman TV
• 45:01
  shows to at least plus animated series all before that period yeah and I'm just really
• 45:08
  surprised that they didn't try to shoehorn something something on yeah I
• 45:12
  mean I'm glad they didn't I mean they had a spin-off Batgirl series it was
• 45:15
  [ __ ] you know what I mean yeah it's a Supergirl show too but I heard that
• 45:18
  wasn't great so I haven't bothered to watch it yeah I took a little bit of it
• 45:21
  in uh it's like if Supergirl was a character in Ali MCB and also Ali mcbill
• 45:28
  is in it right oh yeah and just again to clarify right I'm not hating on DC or anything
• 45:35
  like that it's not because I'm a Marvel fan boy I actually haven't watched any
• 45:37
  of the other Marvel shows either like Jessica Jones or Agents of Shield is
• 45:41
  terrible um I tried to watch it I'm sorry if you're a fan of agen of Shield
• 45:44
  I couldn't I can't do it for the same reason I can't do stuff like Smallville
• 45:48
  and that anymore it's just not it's it's not comping light I haven't watched any
• 45:53
  of watch a few episodes of everything but not M mhm yeah I'm not sitting down
• 45:58
  to watch an entire season of any of these why watching Jessica Jones right
• 46:01
  now she's into that yeah I'm going to watch it because I've heard that it's
• 46:05
  yeah it seems a bit different from the others I'm hoping because it's a Netflix
• 46:08
  one as well maybe it's more like deadevil is it just because of Game of
• 46:11
  Thrones we're now allowed to have these shows cuz I feel like I mean there was
• 46:15
  there was Deadwood which was what I would call like on the same level as these
• 46:21
  these shows man I would put dead Deadwood on the same level as
• 46:24
  Shakespeare oh and um bad I guess is why I didn't like Breaking Bad but it was
• 46:29
  The Sopranos first oh yeah you want to know why all this stuff is now as good
• 46:33
  as it is because we can now stream back when we were young these shows we would
• 46:39
  never be allowed to watch when they're on television right like ever when we
• 46:43
  were sort of 10 if we wanted to watch Daredevil or Batman or what we wouldn't
• 46:46
  be allowed because everything's now streaming I'll just be in my room on my
• 46:50
  iPad and I'll watch these shows yeah but this is how and your mom can't do
• 46:54
  anything I was going to say for for once in your life Luke you don't get in
• 46:58
  trouble off your mom for watching deadevil no but it's true like now that I think
• 47:03
  more people are watching it even from a younger age than what they would have in
• 47:07
  the past and that's why I think they're not they're not trying to go for the
• 47:10
  whole family show anymore that everyone will sit around the television and watch
• 47:14
  oh I see what you're saying Point everyone watches their own devices
• 47:17
  everyone's yeah okay also I think yeah it's they've proven with I guess because
• 47:21
  the medium has changed and because they've proven it with Game of Thrones
• 47:24
  and that people want this kind of show makes money make more of it like I feel
• 47:29
  like Daredevil had better production values and and everything than a lot of
• 47:34
  films agre days agre can't fault that half of it the
• 47:39
  other half is just lawyers in an office yeah which I like as well well the other
• 47:44
  great thing is is they know they now they don't have to do 26 episodes yes no
• 47:49
  that's true it's all if this is if you've got a script if you've got a
• 47:52
  season that's going to be 10 that's 10 episodes like don't try and double with
• 47:57
  crap that well fun you should say that Luke because I'm actually about to start
• 48:01
  next month shooting a uh a streaming series myself which is Eight Episodes
• 48:05
  cuz that's how many they're going to beuck yeah yep that's sick congrats on
• 48:09
  that again by the way also listeners I I don't mean a web series like I don't
• 48:12
  mean something on YouTube this is like you know half hour episodes so yeah you
• 48:17
  know just calm down and obviously we'll uh we'll link to it when our listen
• 48:21
  listeners can see it right yeah if depends depends how I feel about it when
• 48:26
  it's done yeah and obviously they'll need to know speak the language yeah
• 48:30
  it's yeah I'm hoping they'll follow along I'm I'm trying to make this as
• 48:34
  broad as I can not not broad humor but just broad appeal yeah if I can that's
• 48:40
  the challenge though because it is set in Singapore yeah um speaking of the
• 48:45
  formats of things I wanted to mention that and I want some advice from you
• 48:51
  guys if I may whoever jingle for Matt asks us for advice was it there whole think where
• 48:57
  people ask me for advice I think I think we need less Jingles I'm going to be
• 49:01
  honest yeah we'll use we'll go with that one we need less Jingles Matthew this
• 49:05
  week was especially tricky for me right because I wasn't on the podcast last
• 49:08
  week I was just basically like yesterday given a list of Jingles with no context
• 49:15
  so I did my best well I can't wait to listen
• 49:19
  to crabs
• 49:22
  with crabs with Is that real BAS CRA the b in that sounds
• 49:29
  excent crabs withb yeah I played the bass I'm sure did crabs with doesn't
• 49:34
  sound like a this I mean I'd have to open up the project to be sure but I mean I have a
• 49:40
  base right here I'm looking at so well I it's highly likely that evidence checks
• 49:45
  out yeah so um what I want to know is right what format what platform what
• 49:52
  [ __ ] service what should I buy the force awakens on because two copies okay
• 49:58
  so let me clarify right it's out digitally right now and has been for a
• 50:01
  couple of days it's not out on Blu-ray or DVD yet in Australia I think it comes
• 50:06
  out overseas uh quicker like in a couple of days but here from what I can gather
• 50:11
  from JB highi it comes out on the 13th of April yeah I think they've released
• 50:16
  it early because it was leaked online right and I think that's why they've
• 50:21
  released a digital version early just to try and go well people are downloading
• 50:25
  well he download right copy oh okay oh you mean because
• 50:29
  it leaked they started they put it up early oh okay that makes sense because I
• 50:34
  wondered why they did that okay that that makes a lot of sense now the reason
• 50:37
  why I go two copies yes is because I think from what I've seen so far the
• 50:43
  special features and everything are better on the Blu-ray copy are they not
• 50:47
  the same not from what I've seen I've had special features when you download
• 50:53
  like from iTunes or wherever it's available where is it available well I
• 50:57
  was looking at it on Xbox and I only saw like some deleted scenes I didn't see
• 51:01
  any I had look no I had to look on the Xbox they're there okay do you have to
• 51:05
  buy them separately no no no you buy uh I looked on the Xbox cuz like I said I I
• 51:10
  looked into a few places right and it see seems to me uh I could be wrong but
• 51:15
  it seemed like you get pretty much the same stuff on most of the platforms
• 51:18
  which is good but here's my dilemma right I've got some Blu-rays I've I
• 51:24
  started to buy stuff on Blu-ray um I don't rare I rarely use them it's dead
• 51:31
  media if I think oh I've got a Blu-ray I'll Chuck that in cuz cuz I've got it
• 51:36
  and I want to use it I have owned the Blu-ray wanted to watch something
• 51:40
  downloaded it so I didn't have to get up yeah it's convenient so look Matt okay
• 51:45
  so here here's my question right if I buy it on the Xbox right I can only
• 51:49
  watch it on the Xbox or a PC yeah if I buy it on Google Play I can watch it on
• 51:54
  my PC or my Mac or my uh I think that's it actually I don't
• 51:59
  have an Android phone uh if I buy it on iTunes I can watch it on my Mac I can
• 52:03
  watch it on uh my iPad and my iPhone I can't watch it on my Xbox like
• 52:09
  everything you're saying I would go the Xbox over everything else because that's
• 52:12
  the only one you have said that connects to your televis I completely agree I
• 52:15
  completely agree with that yeah or should I buy it on Blu-ray to alleviate
• 52:21
  the guilt of having obtained it from Italy and then I can just use that copy
• 52:25
  on every [ __ ] device cuz cuz it's just easy but what devices do you have
• 52:30
  with Blu-ray other than a Blu-ray player no no no well I I don't I'll have the
• 52:34
  disc and put it on a shelf and just feel watch the download feel good about the
• 52:38
  fact that I paid for it and then they can [ __ ] off yeah do that or buy a
• 52:43
  digital copy somewhere and do that yeah pay for it if you pay if you watch it on
• 52:46
  Xbox too though oh yeah yeah if I if I buy the Xbox version right I have to pay
• 52:51
  for it if I buy the Google version and iTunes version whatever it's just that I
• 52:54
  can't buy a copy and download a cop it's not that it's ever going to come up ever
• 52:57
  going to come up where I'm like I really wish I could watch this on my iPad right
• 53:01
  now and I bought it on the Xbox it's probably not going to come up but it's
• 53:04
  just frustrates me that I it's I'm locked in whatever I buy it on and it's
• 53:08
  sort of I realize now as well it's a false dilemma because it's not like if I
• 53:12
  buy the Blu-ray I solve that problem anyway it's like I used to think I used
• 53:15
  to think by buying DVDs right at least I'm not locked into iTunes I'm not
• 53:19
  locked into that but now I've got a box full of [ __ ] DVDs that are useless
• 53:22
  and Matt thing if you buy it on dis you're locked into that's right and I'm
• 53:28
  not allowed to according to the the to the law the fact that I've got a box of
• 53:32
  DVDs doesn't mean I'm allowed to have those on my [ __ ] computer anyway no
• 53:35
  because you brought the license for that the DD that I can't I got no [ __ ] DVD
• 53:40
  drives and anything anymore look we're all going to buy it because we want the
• 53:43
  stuff honestly I don't want something sitting on the shelf you know what I
• 53:47
  mean so yeah yeah I want to I want to do the right thing but I also I'm going to
• 53:51
  get thebox one I wish they could just be a bit less [ __ ] about it all you know
• 53:56
  go the Xbox one as well for the same reason L my Xbox is connected to my TV
• 54:00
  yeah if I want to watch it on my computer then you can still watch it
• 54:02
  online on your computer but really if I'm going to watch a movie especially
• 54:06
  something like that I want it on my television man I do want to see though I really
• 54:11
  do it it gets better every time yeah I
• 54:17
  don't know I just it's just a dilemma that I've had but the definitely go
• 54:21
  digital over physical yeah yeah you're probably right cuz like I said I've
• 54:25
  realized it's it's like there's no dilemma here either way I'm
• 54:28
  I'm like locking myself into something either way you're watching it there is no
• 54:34
  answer that ends with me being able to watch it all the time forever Infinity
• 54:39
  but you know there is Matt because we know we live in a world where you can
• 54:42
  buy the Blu-ray and lose the Blu-ray and go all right [ __ ] it I'll download it
• 54:47
  and I'll feel fine because I've actually bought this before yeah right but I mean
• 54:50
  legally sure like there's no legal way for me to obtain it in a way that I can
• 54:56
  watch it in perpetuity forever that never was the case I mean you bought it
• 55:01
  on VHS you wouldn't be able to play it on a beta Max no but but there was the
• 55:05
  illusion of that back in the day because if I bought the DVD right I have the DVD
• 55:09
  right you can't take the DVD away from me whereas the digital stuff kind of
• 55:14
  reveals the the illusion because it's like they can take away it whenever you
• 55:19
  know whenever and a false either way but it's just more obvious now that that's
• 55:24
  what's happening it's like if I buy a book right I've got the book forever
• 55:27
  they can't take the book away yeah but if the book catches on
• 55:31
  fire my uh Kindle because I've got about 30 boxes of books that are just weighing
• 55:38
  my life down also I realized a book was a terrible analogy because a book just
• 55:42
  works forever and I had to invent a scenario where the book gets burned to
• 55:46
  make it work so I don't bother writing and telling my [ __ ] I've realized my analogy was
• 55:53
  garbage so what do we got what else have we got here and do you want to just talk
• 55:58
  games to wrap up real quick I think so sure okay do it so VI games we haven't
• 56:04
  talked about the division much CU I wasn't on and I I don't know did you
• 56:08
  talk about it last week I haven't listened to last week's yet I think we
• 56:10
  did talk about came out came out two two hours ago finished it right I know that
• 56:16
  okay have you got it Dan have you played I hav't I haven't played it I'm enjoying
• 56:19
  Primal far too much to stop uh I just finished that as well oh you finished it
• 56:24
  nice I've just upgraded myself to the double bow that one took me forever to get that
• 56:29
  double bow cuz I was trying to find a rare D skin and could not find it
• 56:33
  anywhere the rare deer skin was was hard to find yeah I got to play this game you do
• 56:40
  man you [ __ ] it's a great game it's so good it's Far Cry and I'm I'm not upset
• 56:47
  that I don't have a gun or anything yeah it's I'm just fine with that bow yeah
• 56:51
  and the the bow was really tricky to use at start and and I only used it when I
• 56:55
  was really really sure I was going to hit something but as you progress
• 56:58
  through the game you get better with your weapons so your aim gets easier to
• 57:04
  aim oh okay that's good that's cool no I did find out at the start I
• 57:10
  actually I'd end up just going to my club because with the bar I kept missing
• 57:13
  but then towards the end I'm just head shot head shot head shot yeah especially
• 57:18
  with the double you killed a mammoth yeah oh that you do that the first five
• 57:22
  minutes of the game it's the first thing you kill the game starts with a mammoth
• 57:25
  hunt all right soul but to be fair after that it becomes quite hard to kill them
• 57:31
  for a while until it doesn't okay yeah well I've been playing a bit of division
• 57:36
  um I went did you discuss the dark Zone have you even been into the dark Zone
• 57:39
  Luke I went into the dark Zone for one minute cuz there was a mission in there and then I
• 57:45
  left the dark zone is uh not for me really I don't know just I might be fun
• 57:51
  to play with people yeah but yeah okay by myself I had no idea
• 57:57
  what I was doing so I was a bit confused the first time I went in uh and it took
• 58:01
  me a little while to figure it out cuz I went in alone as well and so the way the
• 58:04
  dark Zone Works dangerous to go alone it is take this the way it works is you go
• 58:10
  in and there are more powerful bad guys
• 58:14
  like more tricky bad guys um and you get better loot in there but because it's
• 58:20
  contaminated that's where the virus was worse you can collect stuff stuff it
• 58:26
  goes into a separate inventory and you have to get it extracted you have to
• 58:30
  like airlift it out um like you can't take it back out again through the door
• 58:35
  the way you came in it's a bit convoluted but but it makes sense in a
• 58:38
  way because it's you know it makes it trickier to get good loot um and the
• 58:43
  other thing is as you as I discovered if you accidentally
• 58:48
  murder somewh accidentally murder another player I was we taking out some
• 58:53
  bad guys this guy was really low on health and and he he just it honestly
• 58:58
  was an accident I was sniping and I just [ __ ] head shoted this guy oh man and
• 59:03
  then it comes up and it says you have gone Rogue and then you become a rogue
• 59:08
  agent right and then basically everybody then has to try and kill you and you get
• 59:13
  apparent it seems like you get better gear and high XP for doing it but I just
• 59:18
  got annihilated immediately and I it was very confusing at the time cuz I didn't
• 59:23
  understand what was happening but yeah I realized now so yeah you go in you you
• 59:28
  beat up some tougher baddies you get some cool gear and then you have to call
• 59:32
  for an extraction uh and it's kind of like you have to like you have to hold
• 59:36
  the position for two or three minutes with a bunch of enemies around before
• 59:40
  the helicopter comes and then it lifts your gear out and then you have to make
• 59:44
  your own way out of there again and then when you get back to your base the gear
• 59:47
  that you took that you extracted is in your stash so yeah it's cool I can see yeah
• 59:54
  it would be more fun obviously with some friends yeah um which let me know one
• 59:59
  time you're on and I'll I'll I'll turn it on again but for now I finished with
• 1:00:02
  the game okay yeah Jen and I have been playing missions um together which is
• 1:00:07
  good it's fun uh so yeah we should do that I think at some point too it's a
• 1:00:10
  bit like Borderlands uh in that sense um where you can kind of jump in and jump
• 1:00:14
  out of each other's game yeah and do missions you can still collect stuff and
• 1:00:19
  get stuff and go back to your game and it's all good and yeah exactly yeah it's
• 1:00:22
  cool speaking of video games uh we talked about Plague Inc the week uh if
• 1:00:28
  the listeners want a copy of that we're giving them away can I have a copy um no
• 1:00:34
  you for given them away no oh is this a game where you got to spread diseases
• 1:00:39
  yeah you create your own disease yeah you know what I it just occurred to me I
• 1:00:43
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• 1:00:49
  as well what is he a few times I bought it the second I got off the podcast last
• 1:00:53
  week two weeks ago and you haven't you haven't played it
• 1:00:58
  yet forgot I had it I ear three copies of it right well endemic Creations who
• 1:01:03
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• 1:01:19
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• 1:01:24
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  Instagram Instagram yep we have a Vine is that still around we don't and we're
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  probably not going to get one cuz I can't be asked creating Vines so unless
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  one else gets it yeah yeah I've done that before for
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  things but um naked.com I don't think we we don't don't own that anymore a what's up there
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  now I don't know it cost me money to keep them let's have a look Dan naked.com
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  nothing that's such a tragedy that's not being used by some other Dan yep just
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  nothing yeah sorry superimposing his face on some other naked
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  body just go to multiple nasm.com danan naked oh does that still exist no but
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  I'll make it before this a but the game I've been playing the
• 1:03:22
  most I talked about it a little bit a couple weeks ago uh cuz I was playing
• 1:03:26
  the demo and I bought the full game and it's on my 3DS and it's Bravely Default
• 1:03:31
  M and uh a listener Simon told me I should buy it because it's great and he
• 1:03:38
  was right he was damn right it's a great game so if you're into uh jrpgs like
• 1:03:42
  Final Fantasy Bravely Default is great it's actually the best game uh I've
• 1:03:47
  played on my 3DS I think I actually want to play my 3DS whereas you know like a
• 1:03:53
  lot of the mobile games are not as compelling if I'm going to play a game
• 1:03:57
  I'm like I'll play the Xbox whereas in now I'm actually like oh man going to
• 1:04:00
  play some Bravely Default at the moment my 3DS sits at work so I can Street pass
• 1:04:05
  this one guy who works in my building yeah yeah see I catch the train every
• 1:04:11
  day so I get a lot of um tiles and Street pass things and I miss catching
• 1:04:16
  the train I love catching the train to read books and play handheld games yep
• 1:04:22
  yeah that's the other reason actually you know the other reason I'm really
• 1:04:24
  into this is because it is something it's compelling like it's it's a
• 1:04:28
  compelling game that I really want to play and I get like I guess like maybe 2
• 1:04:34
  hours a day time play it yeah whereas like my Xbox I can't do it cuz I'm but
• 1:04:39
  if I'm on the train like I can just play this it's great else what else could you
• 1:04:42
  be doing you know well usually I used to read so I guess it's eating into my
• 1:04:46
  reading time you know yeah but sometimes you need a break from Reading yes I've
• 1:04:51
  been trying to force myself I've had a break for about 15 years it's fine to to
• 1:04:55
  read as well like I'm like you can play a game on the way in on the way home
• 1:04:58
  read I was sicking about actually picking it up because I'm a huge Final
• 1:05:02
  Fantasy fan and I went oh that could be fun but then I've gone no I'll buy it
• 1:05:07
  I'll play the first 5 minutes and then I'll cuz I'm not getting achievements
• 1:05:11
  for it yeah it doesn't it obviously doesn't have any of that
• 1:05:15
  stuff and yeah then I'll just have to go well I have to go back to my Xbox so I
• 1:05:19
  get it in ch it's got good Street pass stuff in that when you meet people in
• 1:05:23
  Street pass you collect them and they can you get more villages to help
• 1:05:27
  rebuild things in your village and then you son of a [ __ ] what I need it now
• 1:05:33
  yeah and also if we're friends on there we can um we can do Ability Link where I
• 1:05:38
  can um we can link our characters together so that we can share abilities
• 1:05:43
  and I can send my character to your game so you can use them in battles and stuff
• 1:05:47
  like that oh wow it's got some cool it's got some cool stuff so one of the things
• 1:05:51
  that's probably going to be good when the new next version of 3DS comes out is
• 1:05:56
  the fact that your profile can probably copy across 3DS's uh you're locked in
• 1:06:03
  you have a Nintendo account you've got a 3DS Nintendo needs to catch up on this
• 1:06:07
  [ __ ] yeah it's not as bad as it was like you can transfer it to a new 3DS but
• 1:06:11
  yeah my my games live on this 3DS right and if this 3DS I think if like if it
• 1:06:17
  broke like if I dropped it and it got smashed or something I would have to
• 1:06:21
  [ __ ] around and call them and get them to like authorize it on a new one like
• 1:06:25
  it's a nightmare it's not like an Xbox where you just logging in and I've
• 1:06:28
  logged into this one now here's and where you go they're really behind on
• 1:06:32
  that kind of stuff it's same with the WiiU as well like which is rumors that
• 1:06:36
  the Wii NX I think it's called it's coming out and that'll also mean a new
• 1:06:43
  handheld device as well well they just launched my Nintendo which is a new
• 1:06:47
  service that the the Wii U is telling me I should join it I think it swaps over
• 1:06:51
  from the Nintendo account is it my Nintendo they got some new thing I don't
• 1:06:54
  know what it's called I can't remember I Got a notification on my Wii um so
• 1:06:58
  they're upgrading that so maybe maybe they're headed in the right direction
• 1:07:01
  but yeah they need to do something yeah that's a big [ __ ] nightmare because
• 1:07:06
  again like with the way that I'm thinking about the uh longevity of my my
• 1:07:13
  goods kind of thing like if I buy a digital game on this 3DS it only works
• 1:07:17
  on this 3DS like come on guys no we're we're we're far we're
• 1:07:22
  we're so far past that now it should just be you you have that on your
• 1:07:26
  account yeah I have a Nintendo account and those games are on it and if I have
• 1:07:30
  a Nintendo device that can play those games I can play them yep yeah that's
• 1:07:34
  how it should be I want to see Rogue one yeah did you see that uh the new poster
• 1:07:39
  no there's a new poster they revealed J Binks dut up no sorry for some reason it
• 1:07:45
  just popped into my head that is like the one movie I'm looking forward to
• 1:07:49
  this year it is a good poster though there genuinely was there was a poster
• 1:07:52
  posted with um Judo mink because it was April 1st all right there is a poster
• 1:07:57
  though did you see uh Bruce Campbell's April Fool show yes I did no that was
• 1:08:01
  great he announced that he's going to be playing doctor
• 1:08:04
  who but they had a poster and everything like a a photo and everything was great
• 1:08:09
  I didn't see any other April fools I think because it was on a weekend yeah
• 1:08:12
  was it a weekend no there was still plenty around I think oh yeah because um
• 1:08:18
  sorry because in the US it was on a weekend here yeah so I wasn't checking
• 1:08:23
  anything cuz I only checked the internet when I'm at work apparently yeah because
• 1:08:26
  [ __ ] America so were were there any good a fools no nothing there was a lot just
• 1:08:32
  nothing really PornHub became cornhub did you see Google's April Fool no no
• 1:08:37
  what was theirs I saw cornhub yeah that was funny PornHub yeah if you went to
• 1:08:40
  Pornhub it was cornhub it was like hot corn that's great what did Google do
• 1:08:46
  Google announced they dropped a new launch video for a new product which is
• 1:08:51
  virtual reality reality I forget what they called it but it's oh basically
• 1:08:55
  yeah saying that virtual reality doesn't get close enough to reality but this one
• 1:08:59
  does and it's basically clear goggles you know how have got the Google box
• 1:09:03
  where you put your phone in yeah it was just a clear they showing people like
• 1:09:07
  going wow playing tennis going for walks Matt either doesn't give a [ __ ] or he's
• 1:09:12
  just not not sorry I was reading it something and I've gotten distracted I'm
• 1:09:17
  sorry oh well see you next week yeah if that can be bothered that's all for this
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