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Beyond Boeing: What the Trump–Xi summit really revealed · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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Good day.
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Welcome to the Midday Report on the America
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Aloud News Radio Network.
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I am your host, Dr.
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Franco Musio of the Counter Momentum of Spin.
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To our friends listening in the United States
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and around the world, I always say this,
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uh, especially recently.
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Uh, there's no lack of hard news items
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keeping our adrenaline going.
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Uh none at all.
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So um, yeah.
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What can I do?
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We're uh and all of us.
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Our aim here is to dissect is to
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dissect the nuances, to not only uh feed
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to our adrenaline, but search the foundations of
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all these events and the causes into which
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we come into contact now on a 24-hour
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day basis.
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So what's happened most recently?
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The title of this show, the Trump G
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summit rhetoric versus reality.
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And I am thrilled and privileged, definitely privileged
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to introduce uh now.
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I want to say the third, fourth time,
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retired naval aviator Captain Kenneth Dutch, uh Rauch,
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Rauch, Dutch for short, uh, who is basically
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too humbled for his own stature in the
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world of aviation and in the world of
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I would say geopolitics.
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He graduated from the U.S.
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Naval Academy in 1966, after which time his
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career skyrocketed, no pun intended.
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Uh, but but it did uh in in
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terms of well, I'm gonna name a few
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U.S.
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Naval Fighter Weapons School Top Gun instructor, Canadian
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Forces College, Toronto Cal Canada instructor.
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He's flown over 320 combat missions as an
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attack pilot, deployed twice to Vietnam.
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He flew the A4 Skyhawk and the A7
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uh Corsair aircraft.
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Um he became a test pilot for numerous
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aircraft to include the F-14, uh Top Gun
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Grumman.
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This is what Top Gun or I'm sorry,
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Tom Cat, Tomcat Grumman.
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This is what Top Gun One used.
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Uh his son flew the F-18 Super Hornet,
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which was seen in uh Top Gun Maverick,
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the second top gun.
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The Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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Uh Dutch has uh has been decorated uh
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uh a lot.
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Uh distinguished flying cross for heroism, an extraordinary
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achievement while participating in aerial flight.
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Um he's also a doctor, he's a PhD
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from MIT.
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He is, he doesn't want to admit that,
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but the uh the Navy Air Ciscom program
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for his work in the shuttle aircraft.
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Um he retired as an 06 in 1993
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and remains an expert in each East Asian
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affairs, as well as naval aviation, and he's
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uh he's a great student of geopolitics.
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That's why we have him about uh here
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about this particular show.
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So, Captain Rauch, welcome again to the show.
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Thank you.
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You are welcome.
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Oh no, no, you're quite welcome.
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So I I want to lay the groundwork
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as usual uh as an introduction and Dutch,
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please interfere, please intercept, please chime in whenever
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you wish.
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Okay.
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So this is the over the overview, the
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introduction.
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Okay.
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So I I'm gonna talk just a little
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bit about U.S.
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China summitry.
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Began with Richard Dixon.
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I remember watching that, and I'm sure you
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remember that in 1972 when he went to
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be he met with Chairman Mao Citang, Premier
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Zhou Enlai.
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Uh it really was kind of a breakthrough,
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at least at that time.
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It resulted in the Shanghai uh communique, served
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as a cold war reset, and designed to
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counterbalance the Soviet Union.
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Things have changed quite a bit since that
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time.
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So following that, there have been summits in
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the 90s, early 200s, it focused on economic
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ties.
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We had Bill Clinton.
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Uh, it would change the main, paved the
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way for China's entry into the World Trade
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Organization, 2001, uh, with George W.
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Bush, that administration in 2001, we had the
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Apex Summit in Shanghai, the Asian Pacific Economic
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Cooperation meetings.
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And um, yeah, then 2009 to 2016 under
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Obama, uh, we had summits, they were structured,
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highly structured, they were dialogue, kind of institutional
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dialogue frameworks, and so it led to the
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strategic and economic dialogue.
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Uh, they were comprehensive.
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They caught oh my god, they covered clock
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climate change.
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Yes, it did, the financial crisis.
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But now, 2017 to the present, taking into
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account Donald Trump's first presidency and now Kern.
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I I'm gonna kind of uh bypass Biden
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because it deserves being bypassed, in my opinion.
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So it's shifted, it shifted to a transactional
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and maybe a little bit confrontational style, except
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except the last one.
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So uh in 2017 Marlago, it was uh
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it produced a short-term 100-day action plan on
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trade.
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But after that, the relationships quickly deteriorated into
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our trade wars, sweeping tariffs and retaliations and
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so um, yeah, the the they want the
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cake and eat it too and and everything
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else, and maybe they say the same thing
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about us.
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But but I think we're we're a little
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bit different right now.
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And before I unleash Captain Rauch, whatever this
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is worth, are polls worth anything?
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I I don't think so.
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I I think I can speak for Captain
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Rouch on that one, but but it's kind
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of interesting.
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The Pew Research Center, which they say that
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they're bipartisan or non nonpartisan, nonpartisan.
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So now, today, or as of a month
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ago, 27% of U.S.
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adults view China favorably.
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Where 27% total Republican and Democrat.
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So it was up six percentage points from
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last year and double 2003.
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But but if you parse that out and
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look at uh Republicans, now 18% of Republicans,
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34% of Democrats view China favorably.
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The 18% actually has gone up from about
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9% a couple of years ago for Republicans.
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Now, is that gonna serve anything?
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No, I don't think so.
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But what say you?
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And they require an answer whether you have
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got an answer or not.
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You're gonna say something.
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So the underlying part of this poll is.
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No.
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No, no, I don't either.
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Don't either.
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And then if you look at it scientifically,
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And then if you look at it scientifically,
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non scientifically, and and what bearing do they
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non-scientifically, and what bearing do they really have?
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really have?
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Um, tell me, what bearing on anything?
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Um, tell me, what bearing on anything?
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I I don't think so.
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I don't think so.
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But the bottom line of this particular introduction
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But the bottom line of this particular introduction
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is this.
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is this that now there's no trust, there's
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That now there's no trust.
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no lack, there's a lack of trust between
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There's no lack, there's a lack of trust
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the two countries, right?
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between the two countries, right?
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Both nations, US and China, they've engaged in
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Both nations, US and China.
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They've engaged in high level, we've had these
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high level, we've had these high-level summits, which
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high level summits, which I would refer to,
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I would prefer to, kind of to build
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kind of to build a
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a uh a strategic stability, kind of.
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So their aim was to, I guess, establish
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guardrails, uh, prevent misunderstandings, facilitate trade.
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That they did to facilitate trade agreements on
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you know, energy agriculture, aerospace.
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But it it's the focus is to manage
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competition and avoid really avoid conflict, avoid conflict
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rather than uh you know, fostering deep deep
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trust.
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What say you?
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Yes, quite.
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Yeah, I mean, um, I mean, I we're
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gonna talk about this in the third segment.
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Can we trust China?
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Absolutely not.
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My dear across the street neighbor, Nancy.
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Nancy, I'm not gonna use your last name,
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Nancy.
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She says, I I think he's a snake,
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meaning not Trump, meaning uh gee, he's a
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snake.
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And well, you think he's a snake?
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Yes.
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Is that it?
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Yes.
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You see, that's what I like about you.
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I I love that about you.
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There's no there's no bullshitting.
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You're black and white.
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You're black and white.
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Um, okay.
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I now I I want to dig deep
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about Taiwan because I've learned a lot about
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that.
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Basically, basically, we the United States and the
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world need Taiwan for sure.
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So mainly for their fabrication plants.
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So they're they're called foundries, the fabrication plants.
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So they're dedicated to semiconductor and then after
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semiconductor, the the chips, the microchips, designed by
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other companies, by the way.
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They're designed by Apple, Nvidia, AMD, advanced micro
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device.
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Um, and and they lead ultimately, so they're
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the design.
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They go to Taiwan, and then the Taiwan,
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uh, there's several, which are huge.
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That you have TSMC, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company,
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you have UMC, United Micro Electronics Corporation, you
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have Power Chick semiconductor manufacturers, blah, blah, blah,
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blah, blah.
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So what they do is they rely on
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an incredibly dense domestic supply chain.
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So they have chemical suppliers, they have packaging,
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they have testing firms like the ASE group,
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and it makes Taiwan's manufacturing kind of ecosystem
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difficult to replicate.
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Uh they're trying to do this in Oman,
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the Chinese, it's not working.
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But um, so that's why that's why they're
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so important.
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Uh and it's become more and more and
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more important.
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So what say you?
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Well, if you look at the uh totality
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of uh chip manufacturing, they produce 50% of
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the world's chips and 90% of the high-end
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chips.
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Right.
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So if you look at the history of
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the thing, um there's a guy named uh
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Cal Tai uh Cow Ten Lee in the
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70s who partnered with TRW in the States
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to start manufacturing.
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They did nothing.
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So he decided they had to have a
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manufacturing background, and uh he brought it in.
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T SMC is gigantic.
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It's huge, yeah.
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Yeah.
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So we rely for 40 years.
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Huh?
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40 years.
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We rely, the United States relies entirely on
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the Taiwanese boundaries.
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So we're the ones who provide the design,
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okay?
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Obviously, key.
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They're the ones who do the the manufacturing
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of it with with, as I said, the
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ecosystem.
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So you have here in the US, you
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have modern, ultra modern defense systems, you have
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our jets, you know this extremely well, intimately,
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the advanced fighter jets and missiles, uh, to
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cyber security, communication networks.
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They all depend on commercial microelectronics.
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So defense procurement relies on this on the
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chips, uh anywhere to consumer electronics, our computers.
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So the military relies on a secure and
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accessible semiconductor supply chain there in Taiwan to
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maintain our our edge.
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So I I think go ahead.
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Yes.
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I was just gonna say, just imagine if
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if the supply stopped because the Chinese intervened
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or because of something that happened in Taiwan,
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we'd be dead in the water.
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Right.
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So uh it's ultra ultra important, but if
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it wasn't for the semiconductor slash uh microchip
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industry, would we care?
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Would the United States care?
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Well, we we proclaim that we are the
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defenders of democracy, and then they're falls on
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the umbrella worldwide of our desire to promote
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democracy, right?
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They are democratic uh government, yes, but but
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no, no, yeah, well, in a way, but
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again, the chips, if if those chip, if
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those the production, if if China were to
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invade Taiwan, they would be very stupid to
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do that.
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But if they didn't, I I think they
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would never do it under this president, under
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future presidents, maybe, but if they were ever
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to do that, uh even they would be
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in severe trouble, would they not?
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Yes, which person are you you're talking about?
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I'm talking about I'm talking about Trump.
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I'm talking about Trump.
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They would never invade under Trump.
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Now, let's say some some kind of horrible
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nightmare happens, and we have a leftist democrat.
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I don't think that's ever gonna happen, but
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let's say we do.
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Uh, or let's say we go back to
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Biden, I mean Biden, a Biden type individual.
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Would they be more enticed?
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Uh uh maybe yes, but nonetheless, they would
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be shooting themselves in the foot, would they
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not?
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Yeah.
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I can't I can't envision a scenario like
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that.
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Right.
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But but it's a big talking point.
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It's a big talking point.
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Um, so so they have a threat.
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They have in Taiwan thousands of upstream suppliers.
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They have chemicals, they have gases, they have
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They have equipment, they have testing tools and
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equipment, they have testing tools, and recreating this,
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recreating this, this web uh in the US
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this web uh in the US is uh
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is uh although they're trying to right now,
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although they're trying to right now, uh prohibitively
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uh prohibitively expensive, slow, inefficient because it's there.
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expensive, slow, inefficient because it's there.
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So what they're doing, which I think is
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So what they're doing, which I think is
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excellent, is constructing new facilities.
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excellent is constructing new facilities.
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So we have the multi-billion dollar expansion of
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So we have the multi-billion dollar expansion of
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Intel at Intel and TSMC campuses here in
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Intel at Intel and TSMC campuses here in
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the US.
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the US.
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So it
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So it it's uh trying to achieve self-sufficiency,
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but it that that's an impossible goal.
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That's a clearly impossible goal.
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I think.
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But what thinks you what what thinks you?
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Great grammar, huh?
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What do you think?
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Well, you know, Trump has enticed all kinds
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of investment in uh Arizona, and I think
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that's bringing fruit.
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But yeah, you know, what but what is
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the production uh goal?
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You want enough chips to provide everything?
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You know, phones and military equipment, right?
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Or just enough to supply the military.
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Well I think it's a lot.
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Yeah, well, how about how about our computers?
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How about our you know, our commercial computers?
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How about your computer, my computer?
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Uh how about what we're talking on right
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this moment, our microphones, all of that's yeah,
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I know you know so what they're doing,
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they're going to Oman, the Chinese, and and
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they've tried to build up, so they have
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a polysilicone kind of pipeline there, but it's
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it's just not pure enough yet.
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It's not pure enough for uh to do
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what what we're doing.
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So so they have the um China my
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understanding now is that they're the the the
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leader in the world of supplying polysilicone, but
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but they're not able to purify it the
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way we are able to do that, which
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is what you need.
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So, yeah, they have they have uh projects
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in Iwan.
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It's like like the United Solar Plant and
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things of that nature, but but they're not
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able to to really have pure semiconductors and
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pure microchips.
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So they're funneling a lot of money, massive
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investments into massive polysilicone and and tech projects
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there, trying to get away from sanctions and
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what have you uh of US uh or
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or international, I should say, markets without friction
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directly with the US.
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But uh if you look at the they
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call it the tangibles, what what did we
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get or what happened from this summit?
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What resulted?
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I think it was kind of pretty good,
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and and I think there's a lot to
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come, but uh yeah, they re-registered China uh
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beef and chicken export facilities, I think like
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400 of them.
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They made a deal.
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I mean, all of this is to come,
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but initially the 200 Boeing aircraft, but and
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maybe a total of 750 later, Trump said
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if if they're happy with it.
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Um they have they have commitments, whatever this
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means that Beijing would not provide material support
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to Iran.
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Well, you believe that they say I have
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a bridge to sell you.
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Right, right?
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I have a lot of bridges to sell
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you.
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Um but but there are in in terms
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of trade and business, likely it was very
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successful.
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But but then oh, also they they agreed
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to review.
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See, all this is talk, all this is
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talk, but U.S.
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biotechnology traits, so genetically engineered characteristics on corn
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and cotton and soybean and all of that.
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So agriculturally, it looks like it was uh
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it was a win.
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Okay, let's put that on hold.
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And we are back with Captain Dutch Crouch.
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So Dutch, I'm I'm talking too much here,
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but I was trying to go through the
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tangibles, but you were you were hunting and
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you were saying, well, this is the warning,
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and during this summit, the Chinese President Xi
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Jinping delivered um this warning to Trump, stating
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that uh Taiwan's uh is quote the most
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important issue in China U.S.
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relations.
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And I believe that's true.
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Yep.
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Well, this is what came out.
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Uh this is the wording.
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Uh the US delegation told everybody that mishandling
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the Taiwan issue would put quote bilateral relations
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in great jeopardy, warning it could lead to
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clashes and even conflicts.
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Now, that was clear, but as we said
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at the beginning, would would Taiwan have the
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stupidity to to cause any problems?
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And now what Trump said was he said
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nothing.
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He he he aired him out, he or
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meaning he listened to everything he had to
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say, and smart.
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I uh uh but he did he didn't
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respond.
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Trump didn't smart.
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Yeah, right.
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Yeah, yeah, I thought it was very smart
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actually.
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Yeah.
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Uh because if you start going and having
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a pissing contest, that's not going to lead
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to anything if if the premise is that
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China would be crazy to invade Taiwan for
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for their own self, their own purposes and
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uh surviving.
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I don't believe they're not gonna invade.
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No way.
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No way.
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Okay.
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Well, you know, I'm putting I don't want
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to put words in your mouth, but wh
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why why would they not invade?
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Well, first of all, 1949 when uh Chang
20:57
Kai Shek went to Taiwan after the civil
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war with Mao.
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Taiwan after the civil war with Mao.
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He took about uh one and a half
21:03
He took about uh one and a half
21:04
million people with him.
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million people with him.
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They populated Taiwan and the rest of this
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They populated Taiwan and the rest of this
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islands.
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islands, and so there's a lot of Chinese
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And so there's a lot of Chinese on
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on the mainland and and what we think
21:14
the mainland in what we think of China
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of China that have family family ties to
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that have family family ties to the people
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the people in Taiwan.
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in Taiwan.
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So are they gonna send people to fight
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So are they going to send people to
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their family?
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fight their family?
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I don't think so.
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I don't think so.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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The other thing is.
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Yeah, and you can see that uh the
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president of China is uh in factoring this
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because uh uh elections ago he uh was
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uh promoting a Chinese or a uh communist
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person who was gonna run for a president
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and he won.
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And he was very very happy with that,
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huh?
21:55
That was like two years ago, was it
21:56
not?
21:58
Something like that.
21:59
Uh yeah, something like that.
22:01
Two, three years ago.
22:02
Yeah.
22:02
Okay.
22:03
So you know, slow but sure, you know,
22:06
Chinese thinking in decades.
22:09
Yes.
22:10
Yes.
22:10
So they're winning.
22:11
They are winning.
22:13
They're winning after they're winning what?
22:16
Or who's winning?
22:18
They take over Taiwan.
22:20
Oh, I see.
22:21
I see.
22:21
But but you just said now, take over
22:24
versus invade.
22:26
I guess you would have to you would
22:28
have to invade first, right?
22:31
Or not take over with an invasion.
22:34
Okay.
22:34
So there would no be no military action,
22:36
no military action.
22:39
But you're predicting they would take over Taiwan.
22:42
Yes.
22:44
Okay.
22:44
So if that's the case, would that put
22:47
in jeopardy put us in jeopardy in terms
22:49
of the okay?
22:52
Of course.
22:53
Okay.
22:53
All right.
22:54
So if you read Mao, Mao is full
22:57
of all kinds of uh nonviolence, and in
23:00
spite of the fact there was a civil
23:03
war in the country, but he wrote about
23:06
nonviolent conquering of people.
23:11
So that was his big thing.
23:13
When do you predict something like this would
23:15
happen?
23:16
You said they think in terms of decades.
23:20
Well, it could happen in decades, you know.
23:22
In decades.
23:23
It could happen in 2030, 2050, they'll be
23:26
happy if it wins.
23:29
So hence that same.
23:32
So we should change the dynamics of that,
23:35
take the bull by the horns, and create
23:38
many more Taiwanese, if you will, processing plants,
23:40
uh fabrication plants in the U.S., like is
23:43
going on right now.
23:46
Right.
23:47
The thing is that the Chinese, as I
23:49
said, they they think in terms of decades,
23:52
we are the uh burger king of generation.
23:55
We want it right now our way.
23:58
We we've got to stop our thinking and
24:00
think like the Chinese.
24:03
Yeah, yeah.
24:04
We have time.
24:05
We have plenty of time.
24:07
The US confrontation.
24:08
Yeah, right.
24:09
Uh-huh.
24:10
Not be confrontational, and we can win this.
24:13
So we've got to change the way we
24:15
think.
24:16
So we can win this by shifting these
24:18
fabrication plants to the U.S., is that what
24:20
you're telling me?
24:23
We have time to do that, yes.
24:24
So that's how we would win.
24:26
Right.
24:27
That's how we would win.
24:28
Okay.
24:29
Now, uh, yeah.
24:31
So all of these warnings, I I I
24:33
think this too, the arms sales.
24:35
Now they're not only arms sales, so my
24:38
understanding is that at the turn of the
24:41
this year, there was an 11 billion package
24:43
of defense systems that was approved.
24:46
And then now, most recently, if you want
24:48
to call it an additional, I don't know
24:51
additional, but 14 billion package of advanced air
24:54
defense systems for Taiwan.
24:56
Now, I believe all of this has been
24:59
approved, but it hasn't been effectuated.
25:02
So you can see if you put yourself
25:05
in or ourselves in their place, Chinese place.
25:08
Um, man, this is a huge military investment.
25:13
And Trump Trump didn't answer.
25:15
So in fact, um he was being asked
25:18
on Air Force One, um, and he's not
25:20
revealing uh uh smart and not responding to
25:23
defense plans for Taiwan.
25:26
And he's but he did say I don't
25:28
want to say regarding regarding U.S.
25:31
actions.
25:32
He said, I don't want to say, and
25:33
he says there's only one quote, there's only
25:35
one person that knows that.
25:37
You know who that is?
25:39
I'm the only person.
25:40
I'm the only person.
25:42
That's what he said.
25:44
Oh, yeah.
25:44
In response to to a reporter, he's the
25:46
only person.
25:48
Now, can we get away with not selling
25:52
these uh defense systems because do we have
25:56
enough already monitoring Taiwan?
26:01
In other words, no, we don't.
26:03
We do not.
26:04
Okay.
26:04
All right, we do not.
26:06
So Taiwan has one of the most sophisticated
26:08
militaries in the world next to ours, all
26:11
because of our weapons systems.
26:14
Right.
26:15
Right.
26:17
I don't know what the numbers are, but
26:19
uh we have fewer people in Taiwan, Americans
26:22
in Taiwan advisors, than we have in the
26:25
Middle East.
26:28
Fewer.
26:29
And fewer, yes.
26:31
And they have a they have a uh
26:35
system whereby they have they take their systems
26:38
and they don't uh regard them as American,
26:42
they regard them as Taiwanese, and they make
26:46
they fully integrate their systems, so they have
26:49
a uh multi-layered defense system, so they incorporate
26:53
our systems into their systems.
26:58
Right.
26:59
Go back to uh why uh Z is
27:01
gonna invade.
27:04
Please.
27:05
Got a second for that.
27:07
I have to thank him for that.
27:10
No, why he's not going to Oh no,
27:12
please, please, please tell me, tell us.
27:15
Well, for one thing, it's no secret that
27:17
the economy is failing.
27:20
He can't start a war.
27:22
He's got a birth rate that's less than
27:23
one.
27:27
So he has a very very unhappy population.
27:31
And it's been fraud waste and abuse of
27:35
kinds that we only are are beginning to
27:38
discover in the country.
27:44
I don't I don't think he has the
27:47
the uh the uh stability in his country
27:49
to bring about any mil military action.
27:52
So they're very different than the Iranians, so
27:54
to speak.
27:56
They're not gonna fight till the very end,
27:58
and they don't have a the uh crazy
28:00
They don't have a the crazy theocracy that
28:01
theocracy that kind of oversees that now it's
28:02
kind of oversees that now it's it's communist,
28:04
it's communist, but I I you know you
28:05
but I you know you go to Shanghai
28:07
go to Shanghai and then it's hard to
28:08
and then it's hard to convince me that
28:10
convince me that it's communist if you go
28:10
it's communist if you go to Shanghai and
28:12
to Shanghai and you turn on the television
28:13
you turn on the television every night in
28:15
every night in terms of the stock market,
28:16
terms of the stock market, the Chinese stock
28:18
the Chinese stock market, right?
28:18
market, right?
28:21
That's that's not like Russia.
28:21
That's that's not like Russia.
28:24
It isn't.
28:24
It isn't.
28:25
He he wants his cake and eat it
28:25
He he wants his cake and eat it
28:27
too, just like I said before, regarding business.
28:27
too, just like I said before regarding business,
28:29
but also communism, right?
28:32
I think I think the way the way
28:34
I look at it.
28:36
Um so let me ask you: do you
28:39
think these weapons systems are important for us
28:43
to sell or the uh missile anti-missile defense
28:46
systems to Taiwan?
28:50
Are they important to do?
28:51
And could could Trump potentially put that on
28:54
hold indefinitely?
28:58
No, he's got to keep building up Taiwan
29:01
to keep it technologically at the forefront.
29:05
So I'm gonna read something to you.
29:07
This this is good.
29:08
It's always okay Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
29:12
He told NBC News.
29:13
I mean, he he's good, he's good, that
29:15
the U.S.
29:16
policy toward Taiwan was quote, unchanged, and cautioned
29:19
that it would be quote, a terrible mistake
29:21
for China to try to take Taiwan by
29:23
force.
29:26
And he said, well, quote, they always raise
29:29
it on their side.
29:32
We always make clear our position, and we
29:34
move on to other topics.
29:36
So in other words, this isn't uh a
29:38
new situation.
29:40
Whereas no, they've always it's a box they
29:42
always have to check.
29:44
Yeah, yeah, but Trump kept his mouth shut.
29:46
Now, I'm gonna add something to this.
29:48
The backdrop, the backdrop of this summit was
29:52
extremely different than any other backdrop.
29:56
The backdrop is that we have and will
30:00
continue to annihilate Iran, and of course, more
30:03
to come, probably in the next couple days.
30:06
Uh Z knows that, right?
30:09
So if you if you will, that's that's
30:11
the elephant big elephant in the room.
30:13
So he knows that the United States has
30:15
overwhelming power.
30:18
And and it's been demonstrated time and time
30:20
again, and in terms of risk taking, you
30:22
know, like Colombia.
30:25
We got, you know, by the way, I
30:27
think there were Chinese guards there too, um,
30:29
guarding Maduro, I believe, but we wiped them
30:31
out too.
30:33
We haven't had a full report of how
30:35
many people we've actually killed in terms of
30:37
trying to and and successfully extracting Maduro and
30:40
his wife.
30:42
Um, but the bottom line is it speaks
30:44
for itself.
30:47
The United States uh superiority, military superiority, speaks
30:50
for itself.
30:53
Consequently, I think that psychologically, Trump um, yes,
30:56
he made a great decision by not responding,
30:59
but uh to what are we going to
31:02
do about Taiwan?
31:06
Um, but but he let that speak for
31:08
itself, basically.
31:11
Am I wrong?
31:13
No, that's right.
31:15
The structure of our our our uh delegation
31:18
that went over was totally different, we all
31:21
the CEOs went, and that it you know,
31:25
we were trying to obviously bring about a
31:28
change in business, and Taiwan was going to
31:31
get mentioned and be overshadowed by you know
31:35
a business thing.
31:39
So that was good.
31:40
He got the Taiwan thing out there, he
31:42
got it and dealt with it.
31:45
Well, he dealt with it, he dealt with
31:46
it by not dealing with it.
31:48
In other words, by not no, no, by
31:50
not addressing it, I should say.
31:51
He's dealing with it for sure, but by
31:53
not addressing it.
31:55
Trumpish.
31:55
Right.
31:56
Very trumpish, yes.
31:58
Uh by not by not addressing it.
32:00
We're gonna we're gonna talk about the Trump
32:02
character and the art of the deal on
32:04
the other side with the next uh the
32:06
next segment, which is kind of kind of
32:08
interesting.
32:10
So he brought, yeah, a lot of business
32:13
people with him, but not only business people,
32:16
Trump uh Musk is not only uh a
32:19
master business person, he's uh an engineer, or
32:22
he's got master engineers working for him.
32:25
And so I I want to get into
32:28
this a little bit because um why did
32:31
Trump not bring up the issue?
32:34
Or or in his mind, this was pageantry
32:37
and basically a show to the world, and
32:40
he was Mr.
32:43
Nice Guy.
32:44
I mean, he was kissing his ass, was
32:45
he not?
32:48
Trump was, but but he was doing that
32:50
on purpose, I think.
32:52
I I believe, because he is a master
32:55
manipulator, and he can be extremely charming and
32:59
extremely nice when he wants to be.
33:02
On the other hand, he could be devastating
33:04
too.
33:05
Um, but this wasn't the time to do
33:07
that.
33:08
This was the time to be nice and
33:10
charming and call him a great leader and
33:12
blah blah blah.
33:15
Whereas some of the critiques are that he
33:17
was he was actually too nice, but in
33:20
your estimation, was he too nice?
33:23
No, he's very deceptive.
33:27
He was very deceptive.
33:30
Do you think that Chinese bought it?
33:33
No.
33:34
But they were had they got had.
33:38
How were they had?
33:39
Tell me.
33:42
His deception worked.
33:44
Uh-huh.
33:45
And there's nothing they could do about it.
33:48
They were overwhelmed with the airplane landed.
33:52
Overwhelmed with what?
33:53
With the nice how nice Trump was.
33:56
Yeah, and everybody got off the airplane.
34:00
From that moment, he lost.
34:02
From Z lost.
34:04
Okay.
34:05
Z lost, right, right.
34:07
Okay.
34:07
So you're telling me it's like if you
34:09
analyze a debate.
34:12
So now with the Republicans or Democrats, whoever
34:15
debates for uh for uh nominations, and then
34:19
there's this huge, huge post-debate dissection.
34:23
It's like Monday morning quarterbacking, if you will.
34:26
And you know, this person won, that person
34:27
won.
34:28
No, I think this person won.
34:30
Well, but Biden, Biden clearly won based on
34:32
his wife.
34:35
So, you know, Joe, you answered all the
34:36
questions.
34:37
Remember that?
34:38
Remember that?
34:40
So what planet was she living on?
34:42
But but in this, in this case, if
34:45
you really look at it and and you
34:48
get beyond the words and the the figure
34:50
and and you know uh the flowers and
34:53
all that stuff.
34:56
If the reporters were smart enough, they would
34:59
go into the psychology, I think, of this.
35:00
Psychology, I think, of this.
35:03
But you know, you have some people say,
35:03
But you know, you have some people say,
35:04
no, Trump lost, Trump lost.
35:05
no, Trump lost, Trump lost, he was kissing
35:06
He was kissing his ass.
35:07
his ass, it was blah, blah, blah.
35:07
It was blah, blah, blah.
35:09
No, I mean, the the reporters have no
35:09
No, I mean, the the reporters have no
35:10
clue what they're talking about.
35:10
clue what they're talking about.
35:12
So let me uh if you take a
35:12
So let me uh yeah, you know, if
35:14
look at the rival.
35:15
you take a look at the arrival, your
35:17
Your rival was pageantry over substance.
35:17
rival was pageantry over substance.
35:20
Right.
35:20
Right.
35:21
Right.
35:21
Right.
35:22
Right.
35:22
Right.
35:23
Maybe a little bit like when we hosted
35:23
Maybe a little bit like when we hosted
35:25
Putin in Anchorage, maybe.
35:25
Putin in Anchorage, maybe.
35:27
Remember?
35:27
Remember?
35:28
Um last year when
35:28
Um last year when Putin.
35:31
Well, some well, then we had then we
35:34
had the fighter jets over right over him.
35:36
Remember that.
35:37
That was good.
35:42
That was really good.
35:43
And I you can see Putin, his expression,
35:45
he was kind of looking up and thinking,
35:47
oh shit.
35:49
Oh my God.
35:51
Is this what we're gonna have to deal
35:52
with?
35:53
So now State Department is not been weeks,
35:55
it's been years.
35:57
We've accused Chinese firms of satellite imagery to
36:00
the Iranian government, providing them.
36:02
And the Treasury Department has moved to target
36:05
Chinese oil refineries, accusing them of buying oil
36:08
from Tehran, which I think is true, and
36:10
as well as the shippers of the oil,
36:13
all this stuff.
36:16
So they do things, but then remember what
36:17
Trump said?
36:19
He says, Well, they spy on us, we
36:20
spy on them, we do it to each
36:22
other.
36:24
And he was kind of making light of
36:25
that.
36:26
Um what do you say about that?
36:30
Well, it's a reality in acknowledged it.
36:34
We spy on them, yes.
36:35
They spy on us, yes.
36:38
Yeah.
36:38
Okay.
36:39
So it's not new.
36:40
But I'm gonna tell you something we don't
36:42
do, or or maybe we do.
36:43
Maybe there's a whole whole lot we're not
36:45
aware of.
36:47
Do you remember Fang Fang?
36:48
She came and uh with what's his name
36:51
Swalwell, and got God knows how many more
36:53
Chinese spies.
36:56
It's just like the Russian the movies on
36:58
um what is it, the James Bond movies,
37:01
and you have these Russian prostitutes or or
37:04
Russian very women, right?
37:07
And but do we supply American prostitutes or
37:10
American spies to China?
37:14
And don't know yes.
37:17
Uh-oh.
37:18
Uh uh.
37:20
I guess I'm naive, huh?
37:21
Okay, all right.
37:22
My my naivete has to wait until the
37:24
other side.
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38:24
Welcome back to my take.
38:29
So I uh in terms of how we
38:32
spy on Russia.
38:34
I or on well, Russia too, by the
38:35
way.
38:37
China.
38:38
All right.
38:39
So um, here we go.
38:40
The art of the deal, the book, the
38:42
art of the deal.
38:43
And I didn't know this, but whatever it's
38:46
worth, it was written by two people, not
38:48
only Trump, it was written by somebody named
38:50
Schwartz.
38:53
And um Schwartz was actually during Trump's 2016
38:56
presidential campaign.
38:59
That this is when the silence broke, that
39:02
the Schwartz either uh Tony Schwartz, he was
39:04
a journalist, an American journalist, he uh he
39:07
ghost wrote that 1987 business memoir, The Art
39:10
of the Deal.
39:12
He he actually wrote that or had it
39:14
had a large contribution.
39:16
Either way, either way, um the question is
39:19
did Trump did Trump ascribe or go along
39:22
with his tenets of the art of the
39:25
deal.
39:28
It was just just came up to me
39:30
recently while I was driving.
39:31
So, but I want to mention one thing
39:33
before that.
39:34
So, guess who is going to pay a
39:37
visit to China this coming week, between the
39:40
19th, I what in a couple days, 19
39:43
to the 20th, to solidify their quote, comprehensive
39:46
strategic partnership.
39:50
Well, our friend Vladimir Putin, which is not
39:53
not our friend, but but that's what they're
39:55
gonna solidify, quote, comprehensive strategic partnership.
39:59
Now, excuse me, in all fairness, Trump was
40:01
to have met with G a month earlier,
40:03
or maybe a little more than that, but
40:06
because of the Iranian war, he had to
40:08
postpone that.
40:11
So I don't think the Putin, I I
40:14
don't think it was deliberately designed to come
40:18
right after the the Trump meeting, but they're
40:21
gonna talk about their friendships, and they're gonna
40:24
condemn uh commemorate their 25th anniversary of the
40:27
2001 Sino-Russian Treaty of Friendship.
40:31
So is this all talk and and also
40:34
window dressing, or or is it true?
40:38
What do you think?
40:39
Well, I don't think we can uh discuss
40:41
much that they could agree on.
40:44
You know, you have to look at the
40:48
fact that they are economically their competitors and
40:51
uh strategically, militarily, they're competitors.
40:55
The best thing that could happen to the
40:57
meeting is for us in the United States
40:59
to not cover it.
41:03
Turn Fox off and turn off the uh
41:05
ABC and NBC all the rest of them.
41:08
Well, yeah, the left wing, yeah.
41:11
Yeah, and just ignore it.
41:13
That'll make it not happen.
41:16
So well, no, I'm not even talking about
41:17
the media.
41:19
Um, because the media, even the right wing
41:22
media, by the way, by the way, if
41:25
you analyze this, uh if you analyze this,
41:28
so I I I specifically look at more
41:31
right-sided media, not wing media.
41:34
Uh but um and what sorry for my
41:38
my timer here.
41:41
I apologize.
41:43
Uh my stopwatch.
41:45
So I don't, but but on the other
41:47
hand, a lot of good, good, good, good,
41:50
good is reported by the the right side
41:53
or Washington Times, let's say.
41:56
I I have a a good friend, and
41:59
what he does, he gets both the and
42:00
And he's he's Republican, but he subscribes to
42:01
he's he's Republican, but he subscribes to the
42:03
the Washington Post and the Washington Times.
42:04
Washington Post and the Washington Times.
42:07
He says maybe somewhere in the middle is
42:07
He says maybe somewhere in the middle is
42:08
the truth.
42:08
the truth.
42:10
Or or Al Jazeera, by the way, Al
42:10
Or Al Jazeera, by the way, Al Jazeera
42:12
Jazeera or BBC.
42:12
or BBC.
42:14
Now, they have their own leanings.
42:14
Now, they have their own leanings, BBC definitely
42:15
does.
42:16
BBC definitely does.
42:17
So what is true?
42:17
So, what is true?
42:19
What is right?
42:19
What is right?
42:20
I don't even know.
42:20
I don't even know.
42:22
But you you're saying, but but I suspect
42:22
But you're saying, but but I suspect they
42:24
they both feed into Iran.
42:24
both feed into Iran.
42:26
My suspicion, my suspicion.
42:26
My suspicion, my suspicion, I don't know.
42:29
I don't know.
42:30
I don't know what you think about that,
42:32
but my suspicions are that they both do.
42:35
Trump said it would be an honor for
42:38
us to sell oil to China.
42:40
And China said, Well, we're gonna think about
42:41
that.
42:42
I I thought they already agreed to that,
42:43
and I think we do sell them some
42:45
oil.
42:46
But um, yeah, I I this is all
42:49
uh take away the media because if you
42:53
really get to bare bones between Putin and
42:56
G, you said that they are competitors, but
42:59
they smile and do all of that.
43:02
So I guess if you want to say,
43:05
I guess you want to say the diplomacy.
43:07
I I don't know.
43:09
But um I I'm gonna I'm gonna shift
43:11
a little bit and go to this book
43:14
because I think there's some principles in there
43:17
that are good that are not only good
43:19
that are good for but he wrote it
43:22
from a business sense, right?
43:25
But but if you took talk about any
43:28
negotiations, so so there's some takeaways, like think
43:31
big, think big.
43:34
So he argues that uh since you have
43:37
to think anyway, you should always aim for
43:40
lofty goals as they attract the most attention
43:42
and energy.
43:45
Now you have to temper that based on
43:47
the context, you have to temper that you
43:49
can't just go go on with some outrageous
43:51
statements.
43:54
But was Trump thinking big when he met
43:56
with Xi Jinping?
44:00
I think so.
44:01
But you know, there's one thing he's not
44:04
gonna do is tip his hand to us,
44:07
he he's famous for you know doing things
44:10
and not telling anybody about it, but it's
44:13
too so what about his inner circle, meaning
44:16
not only his cabinet, but uh the National
44:19
Security Council.
44:22
By the way, he's gonna be meeting with
44:25
these people uh very soon, and uh uh
44:28
he he will have met already when when
44:31
this uh this airs uh or in the
44:34
process of about what to do with Iran,
44:37
so um yeah, think big so he hides
44:40
things even even to his own citizens.
44:43
Um I wonder if yeah, well, create and
44:47
maximize options, that's another principle or tenant.
44:51
So in business, you know, he's uh um
44:54
deals can fall through regardless of how promising
44:57
they look initially, business, actually any kind of
45:00
relationship, and and but what he said, or
45:03
what his ghostwriter said was to keep multiple
45:06
options open and have backup plans, not only
45:09
plan B but plan C and plan D
45:12
ready at all times.
45:15
Do you think that has been operative or
45:17
in his back pocket?
45:20
Yeah, yeah.
45:21
Well what do you get in any guys
45:23
and thought through completely?
45:27
So what do you think plan B or
45:29
C would be with China?
45:33
I mean, in addition to having our uh
45:36
in addition to having you know our microchip
45:40
fabrication plants in Arizona and such.
45:43
Um you think he's got backup plans if
45:46
if if for example this summit were a
45:49
complete I I think it wouldn't have been,
45:51
I think it's predetermined that it would be
45:54
a quote unquote success in terms of imagery.
45:57
But you think he's got yeah, he's got
46:01
plans something that is just simply to wait
46:04
them out, yeah.
46:08
Play the Chinese at their own game, so
46:11
in other words, you don't think Trump would
46:14
have just gotten really really upset at a
46:16
meeting and just walked out of the meeting.
46:19
That would not have happened.
46:21
I think Reagan did that, did he not?
46:23
Uh with Russia at one point.
46:25
I think he did.
46:26
Yeah, I think he did.
46:28
Yeah.
46:29
Um but but different scenario right now completely.
46:34
So okay, another one, protect the downside.
46:37
So again, this is business, but it's so
46:40
instead of obsessing over potential profits, he said
46:43
always focus on the worst case scenario, and
46:46
if you can live with the worst-case outcomes,
46:49
the upside will take care of itself.
46:52
So I don't know.
46:54
I don't know.
46:55
What do you think of that?
46:58
I think that's true.
47:00
If you look at his business uh experience,
47:03
how many uh bankruptcy did he go through?
47:06
Quite a few.
47:08
Yeah, right.
47:10
So he focused on his bailouts, as part
47:13
of his progression towards becoming the biggest uh
47:17
real estate person in the world.
47:22
It was all a success.
47:24
Yep.
47:24
No, but in terms of China, could you
47:27
translate that into uh or extrapolate that with
47:29
China?
47:32
Okay, what's the what's the worst case scenario
47:34
with China?
47:35
They invade Taiwan.
47:37
Okay, well, that's not a good one, but
47:39
as you said, you think that that's only
47:41
in dreams that that would happen.
47:43
Yeah.
47:45
I think going into this, he has to
47:48
assume that that will never happen.
47:52
Okay.
47:53
All right.
47:53
And he negotiates at that point.
47:57
So meaning you don't even negotiate, you just
47:59
keep your mouth shut sometimes.
48:01
Right.
48:01
Uh um that's why you say that.
48:04
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
48:05
Yeah, a good friend of mine um was
48:08
dealing with him quite a bit, and um
48:11
I remember he was in the Bush cabinet,
48:14
and I remember he was telling me that
48:17
when it came to certain domestic issues, he
48:20
came out and told him exactly what he
48:24
thought, you know, very respectfully, but ABCD.
48:27
Trump didn't say a word, he just looked
48:29
at him, shook his head, and you know,
48:31
he absorbed it.
48:33
And so here's another one creative hyperbole.
48:36
So Trump believes in truthful hyperbole.
48:39
So he does promoting your own abs uh
48:43
and ideas with bravado and excitement is essential.
48:47
So so you but but you have to
48:49
deliver the goods, so otherwise people will catch
48:51
on, of course.
48:53
So you have to deliver genuine value.
48:56
So what is the genuine value or is
48:59
there in terms of our delivering to China
49:00
Delivering to China.
49:02
that that they know that we can we
49:05
can militarily take care of them?
49:07
We can militarily take care of them.
49:09
Is that what the deliverables are?
49:09
Is that what the deliverables are?
49:12
Or or that we would really be true
49:12
Or that we would really be true economic
49:16
economic partners with him, and um, you know,
49:16
partners with him.
49:20
with his country, and really be the good
49:21
And um, you know, with his country, and
49:23
really be the good guys in a certain
49:23
guys in a certain respect.
49:25
respect.
49:27
I don't know if that's possible.
49:27
I don't know if that's possible, but.
49:29
But it's possible.
49:31
And uh we went out out there with
49:35
uh hand outreach by taking all the CEOs
49:38
over there, and he ignored the uh about
49:42
Taiwan.
49:47
Yeah, you know something interesting.
49:49
If you saw some of the pictures, they
49:51
say sometimes pictures speak a thousand words.
49:54
Well, it was very funny because during one
49:57
of the dinners, uh Musk was there, Elon
50:00
Musk, and all of the Chinese were just
50:03
just uh the Chinese businessmen, they were going
50:06
crazy wanting to do you see that wanting
50:09
to have pictures taken with him.
50:12
So almost like you know, the coming of
50:14
Jesus Christ, the the second coming, uh he
50:17
was almost revered as a god by the
50:19
China the Chinese themselves.
50:22
So they wanted all these pictures, and he
50:24
didn't want those pictures.
50:27
I mean, he was sick of pictures, I
50:28
guess.
50:29
So he was making funny faces and all
50:30
of that.
50:31
Now I don't know, was he just trying
50:34
to be funny, but but but they were
50:38
serious, they wanted their pictures with Elon Musk.
50:41
So they basically revered him, the Chinese, the
50:45
Chinese businessmen that were there, which is good,
50:48
which is uh yes, yes, absolutely.
50:52
All right, I want you to respond to
50:53
this.
50:55
I I wrote an article, it was last
50:58
year, but it was a medical article mainly
51:02
about the Chinese stealing our intellectual property, but
51:05
our medical inner uh intellectual property.
51:09
So you could extrapolate this to other fields.
51:13
Um also, by the way, I I'm a
51:16
little bit perturbed by the thousands and thousands
51:20
and thousands of Chinese students that are here
51:23
at all all levels, you know.
51:26
It even goes from grade school, grade school
51:29
to college to graduate schools to upper level
51:31
degrees, PhDs.
51:34
Uh, they all come with money.
51:36
Well, that's what Trump said, and he said,
51:40
you know, not so much the larger excuse
51:43
me, uh more prosperous universities, but the smaller
51:47
ones, the middle level, and what have you.
51:51
He said that uh, well, you know, it
51:53
it's very valuable for their income.
51:56
Now I don't uh yes, but at the
52:00
same time, uh isn't there an inherent danger
52:04
in allowing this, in allowing this.
52:09
I mean, we we have a few American
52:12
students going there to learn Chinese, if you
52:15
will, and and that that's our interest, the
52:18
language, but not for technology or science or
52:21
medicine, but we have tons here.
52:24
Isn't that a bad thing?
52:28
I think so.
52:30
Okay.
52:31
Our students in China are getting very little
52:34
acceptal language version.
52:38
But all the students are here uh capturing
52:41
parts of our technology and taking it home.
52:44
100%.
52:46
Right.
52:49
Okay, but wait a minute.
52:50
These are not just students.
52:52
These are research students that are on the
52:55
cutting edge of development in this country.
53:00
They bring they bring tons of money, which
53:02
you know, all the places like MIT and
53:05
all the ivy's, you know, all they think
53:07
about is the money.
53:10
Well, yeah, yeah.
53:11
Uh the two.
53:15
Well, most universities and many universities need to
53:17
survive, obviously.
53:20
But at the same time, uh uh you're
53:22
compromising our own standard.
53:25
You're compromising, or meaning not you, but our
53:29
uh security, our security.
53:32
Um, anyway, I'm gonna read to you a
53:34
comment that I made, some comments, see what
53:36
you say.
53:39
So I'm quoting myself.
53:40
I am eagerly sharing my experience and insight
53:43
on this topic, the topic meaning stealing medical
53:46
uh technology, in light of the ramping up
53:49
of cognitive warfare against our country and the
53:51
clear ongoing theft of intellectual property by China
53:54
against the United States.
53:57
There are many well-known overt examples of the
54:01
latter, including cases involving DuPont, Micron, uh, Akin
54:04
Semiconductor, Tesla, Motorola, and Huntsman Corporation, as well
54:08
as numerous ongoing covert occurrences.
54:12
Achieving the status of the United States has
54:14
been a long time goal of China, the
54:17
Chinese, in multiple, possibly all domains, including the
54:19
medical sciences.
54:22
What say you absolutely what?
54:32
Well, so meaning, meaning they they want to
54:35
copy us, they want to copy us, they
54:37
want to be us.
54:40
Yeah, they're military.
54:43
Well, everything they've got in their military is
54:45
a copy of something we built.
54:49
What about their masters of reverse engineering?
54:54
Yeah, yeah.
54:56
Uh so military hardware, but but also medical
54:58
things.
55:00
I I received an invitation in Wuhan to
55:03
go to Wuhan and work, and it was
55:06
supposed to be a very distinguished uh honor
55:09
to go work in Wuhan in the Institute
55:12
of Excellence.
55:15
It's called the Institute of Excellence.
55:17
Oh, good for you.
55:21
So I I was thinking, okay, what are
55:23
they gonna pay?
55:26
But even even no matter what, notwithstanding, I
55:27
wouldn't have gone.
55:29
But so it was like all the great,
55:31
all the great food you could have.
55:33
Oh, yeah, oh I was telling my son
55:36
yesterday, he's in London right now about the
55:38
bats, and you know the uh the animal.
55:41
Oh god.
55:42
That's where this stuff came from, the COVID,
55:43
or at least it was propagated.
55:45
I think it originated in the laboratory, but
55:47
then it was propagated.
55:48
So these open-air animal markets.
55:52
Oh my god, it's disgusting.
55:54
But but it was a Wuhan, and yeah,
55:56
they were gonna host me and blah blah
55:58
blah, and and but instead of what they
56:00
But instead of what they did with the
56:01
did with the uh Olympians, you remember those
56:02
uh Olympians, you remember those two girls, the
56:03
two girls, the Olympians, half Chinese, half American,
56:05
Olympians, half Chinese, half American, giving them millions
56:05
giving them millions and millions and millions of
56:07
and millions and millions of dollars.
56:07
dollars.
56:10
No, it wasn't very lucrative.
56:10
No, it wasn't very lucrative.
56:12
So I either way, I said, no, thank
56:12
So I either way, I said, no, thank
56:14
you.
56:14
you.
56:15
So uh I mean, and they've they've infiltrated
56:15
So uh I mean and they've they've infiltrated
56:19
our medical system, let me tell you.
56:19
our medical system, let me tell you.
56:24
All right, Dutch, we're gonna have to leave
56:24
All right, Dutch, we're gonna have to leave
56:25
it here.
56:25
it here.
56:26
I mean, it's a pleasure.
56:26
I mean, it's a pleasure, as always.
56:29
As always, as always.
56:31
Um, so thank you so much for sharing
56:33
sharing your insights.
56:35
It's been great.
56:37
So you are quite, quite welcome.
56:40
So thank you so much for listening, everyone.
56:42
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56:45
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56:48
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56:54
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