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Trump Doubles Down on $5,000 Checks, AI CEOs Sound the Alarm, and a New Twist in the Lindsay Clancy Case · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: President Trump is promising $ 5, 000 checks if Republicans keep control
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  Speaker 1: of Congress, but there's still no program and no money approved.
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  Speaker 1: So can these checks actually happen? And the $ 5, 000 is
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  Speaker 1: going to everybody. I made that pledge.
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  Speaker 2: I always keep my pledge.
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  Speaker 1: And some of the biggest names in AI are now
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  Speaker 1: saying slow down. They say technology is moving too fast,
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  Speaker 1: but President Trump says slowing down could mean losing the
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  Speaker 1: race to China.
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  Speaker 2: Whoever wins, AI wins.
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  Speaker 1: And an 11 to 1 vote ended the Lindsay Clancy
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  Speaker 1: trial in a mistrial. And now we're learning something about
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  Speaker 1: the holdout juror and what happened next is raising questions
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  Speaker 1: about juror privacy.
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  Speaker 2: One person of color was a person of color, a
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  Speaker 2: woman or a man? A man.
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  Speaker 1: A man. From the Black Effect Podcast Network, I'm Mimi Brown.
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  Speaker 1: And here are the day's biggest stories. Stay with me.
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  Speaker 1: President Trump is doubling down on those $ 5, 000 checks he's
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  Speaker 1: promising American adults if Republicans keep control of Congress. Trump
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  Speaker 1: first announced the idea last week, and over the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: he was asked whether Congress would have to approve the
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  Speaker 1: money and whether the government could actually afford it. If
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  Speaker 1: the Republicans win, as you said, it's $ 5, 000 to all
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  Speaker 1: adults in the country, and we can easily handle that.
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  Speaker 1: because we're taking in so much money.
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  Speaker 2: We've never done better.
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  Speaker 1: The Democrats can't make that pledge because it'll.
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  Speaker 2: All go to hell right away. If the Democrats get in,
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  Speaker 2: you'll go into a depression. If we get in, we
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  Speaker 2: will continue this incredible situation.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we have the strongest, we're the strongest we've
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  Speaker 1: ever been.
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  Speaker 2: We have trillions of dollars coming.
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  Speaker 1: Into the country.
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  Speaker 2: And the $ 5, 000 is going to everybody.
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  Speaker 1: I made that pledge.
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  Speaker 2: I always keep my pledge.
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  Speaker 1: But here's the reality. There's still no $ 5, 000 payment program.
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  Speaker 1: Congress has not approved it and no money has been
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  Speaker 1: approved for those checks. House Speaker Mike Johnson says Congress
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  Speaker 1: would have to approve the payments and lawmakers would still
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  Speaker 1: have to work out the details. And there is pushback, though,
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  Speaker 1: from both sides. Some critics are calling the promise an
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  Speaker 1: attempt to buy votes because Trump has tied the checks
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  Speaker 1: directly to Republicans winning the midterms. And some Republicans are
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  Speaker 1: also questioning whether where the money would come from, and
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  Speaker 1: what it would do to the national debt. We're talking
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  Speaker 1: about more than a trillion dollars if every American received $ 5, 000.
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  Speaker 1: So for now, this is still a promise from the president,
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  Speaker 1: not a check Americans are guaranteed to receive. And last week,
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  Speaker 1: we told you about AI researchers warning that the technology
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  Speaker 1: is moving faster than they know how to control it.
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  Speaker 1: Now some of the people running the biggest AI companies
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  Speaker 1: are sounding the alarm, too. Anthropic CEO, he is calling
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  Speaker 1: on the industry to slow down, saying safety measures aren't
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  Speaker 1: keeping up with how quickly AI is advancing. Let's listen.
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  Speaker 2: I won't lie to you. There are real dangers. And
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  Speaker 2: I think for too long, the industry... lied to people
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  Speaker 2: about the fact that this technology had risk. It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: mean we need to panic today. It doesn't mean we
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  Speaker 2: need to shut it all down. I would say it's
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  Speaker 2: a warning sign. It's a warning sign that we need
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  Speaker 2: to slow down. The AI kill switch could be a
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  Speaker 2: good idea, but I don't think banning it, completely banning it,
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  Speaker 2: is the right approach.
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  Speaker 1: And he's getting support from OpenAI co-founder and CEO Sam Altman.
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  Speaker 1: and ex-AI founder Elon Musk. He's also proposing independent outside
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  Speaker 1: evaluators who would essentially be allowed inside AI companies to
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  Speaker 1: test their systems and make sure they're following their own
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  Speaker 1: safety rules. OpenAI's Sam Altman says his company will do
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  Speaker 1: the same. Elon Musk's response was even simpler. Dario is right.
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  Speaker 1: But President Trump is pushing back, saying the U.S. can't
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  Speaker 1: afford to slow down and risk China taking the lead.
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  Speaker 2: Whoever wins, AI wins. And we can put guardrails, we can.
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  Speaker 1: Do this and that, but I think you have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of negative.
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  Speaker 2: Forces that are bringing it up.
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  Speaker 1: That shouldn't be bringing it up, and they're bringing up
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  Speaker 1: things that won't happen. And remember, this debate exploded last
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  Speaker 1: week after leading researcher Jacob Coxton quit Anthropic and warned
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  Speaker 1: publicly that the people building AI believe there's a possibility
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  Speaker 1: it could kill all humans by the end of the decade.
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  Speaker 1: And lastly, now to a new twist in the Lindsay
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  Speaker 1: Clancy case and growing backlash over how the lone juror
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  Speaker 1: is being treated. Remember, the jury was 11 to 1.
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  Speaker 1: 11 jurors were prepared to find Clancy not criminally responsible
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  Speaker 1: for killing her three children. One juror disagreed, forcing a mistrial.
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  Speaker 1: Now we're learning something we didn't know before, that that
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  Speaker 1: holdout juror was a black man in his 30s and
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  Speaker 1: the only black juror on the panel. And that came
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  Speaker 1: out during a recent interview on CBS Mornings. And let's
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  Speaker 1: listen to Gayle King's reaction when she realizes it.
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  Speaker 2: One person of color was a person of color, a
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  Speaker 2: woman or a man?
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  Speaker 1: A man. A man. Is a holdout juror a person,
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  Speaker 1: a black man? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: A black man is a holdout juror?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Well, I have to sit with that for just
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  Speaker 1: a second. And now there's backlash over what happened after that.
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  Speaker 1: NBC Boston started digging into the holdout juror's personal life,
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  Speaker 1: reporting on past domestic violence allegations and a restraining order
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  Speaker 1: in an eviction case. The station has not released his name,
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  Speaker 1: but here's the issue. Jurors are supposed to have privacy
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  Speaker 1: and protection when they serve. His name is not public
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  Speaker 1: and the jury listed in this case is impounded. So
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  Speaker 1: now people are asking, why is this one juror's personal
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  Speaker 1: life being investigated at all? And would any of the
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  Speaker 1: 11 jurors be facing this kind of scrutiny if the
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  Speaker 1: vote had gone the other way? For now, the mistrial
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  Speaker 1: stands and the case heads back to court later this month.
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  Speaker 1: That's your front page. I'm Mimi Brown. This podcast was
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