Latest / feel your feelings with Ethan Jewell / why do you help everybody but yourself?
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- 0:00Picture this. It's 11:00 PM and your friend
- 0:03texts you. They're spiraling and they
- 0:05desperately need somebody to talk to.
- 0:07And even though you have work tomorrow, you're exhausted, even
- 0:11though you've been running on fumes for weeks, you pick up the
- 0:14phone because that's the kind of person that you are.
- 0:17And you stay on the line for two hours, 3 hours, talking them
- 0:21down from where they are. You say all the right things,
- 0:25you help them through it and you are truly there for them.
- 0:29And then you hang up and you sit in the dark and you realize
- 0:33nobody has asked you how you are doing in a very long time.
- 0:38My name is Ethan Jewell and welcome back to Feel Your
- 0:43Feelings. Today we're going to talk about
- 0:46People Pleasing, but not in the surface level way that you've
- 0:50probably heard before. We're going to go much deeper
- 0:52than that, and we're going to talk about why some of us find
- 0:55it physically easier to care for everyone around us than to
- 0:59extend even a fraction of that same care to ourselves.
- 1:03So if that scenario at the beginning of this episode
- 1:06sounded familiar, then this one is for you.
- 1:09I talk all the time on this podcast about treating yourself
- 1:12the way you would a friend when you're struggling, instead of
- 1:15talking down on yourself, reaching A handout, telling
- 1:18yourself that you are there for you.
- 1:21But so many of us find this so difficult, so impossible.
- 1:25Why and where does this come from?
- 1:28What does it cost us? And most importantly, how do we
- 1:32come back and be there for ourselves?
- 1:35Let's talk about it. First, I want to be clear about
- 1:38what people pleasing actually is because I think it gets
- 1:41dismissed a lot as just like being nice or caring or selfless
- 1:46towards others. And those things aren't bad.
- 1:48In fact, it's amazing to care for others.
- 1:51It's one of the best things that makes us human.
- 1:54But people pleasing isn't all about being being nice.
- 1:58It's the compulsive need to prioritize other people's
- 2:01comfort, needs and emotions, often at the direct expense of
- 2:06your own. The keywords there are
- 2:08compulsive and at the expense of your own emotions.
- 2:13This isn't a choice that you're consciously making every single
- 2:16time. It's a pattern.
- 2:18It's your default, a way of moving through the world that
- 2:21feels so automatic that you've probably never even questioned
- 2:25it. There isn't a choice to make
- 2:26between putting yourself first or putting others first.
- 2:29You always are there. You are the person they can rely
- 2:32on. You are the person that they can
- 2:34lean their head on. You have always been the
- 2:37shoulder to cry on for everyone but yourself.
- 2:41It's just automatic. It's just who you are.
- 2:43And it looks like saying yes when you want to say no.
- 2:46It looks like apologizing when you haven't done anything wrong.
- 2:49It looks like shrinking yourself in a room so other people can
- 2:53take up more space. It's asking, are you OK 50 times
- 2:58a day and never once turning that question on yourself.
- 3:03I want to make it clear, people pleasing is not a character
- 3:07flaw. It's not a weakness.
- 3:08It is not proof that you're a pushover, that you don't respect
- 3:12yourself. It's a strategy and it's one
- 3:15that our brain learned for very good reason over a very long
- 3:19time. And we're going to talk about
- 3:21those reasons because understanding the why is the
- 3:24first step to changing the pattern.
- 3:26So why do some people find it so much easier to give than to
- 3:30receive? Why does caring for others feel
- 3:33natural and effortless, while caring for yourself feel self
- 3:37indulgent, selfish, or even wrong?
- 3:40A big part of the answer is relational.
- 3:43It starts with how we connect with others.
- 3:46For a lot of people, pleasers, love and approval were, at some
- 3:49point in their lives, conditional.
- 3:52Maybe not explicitly. Maybe nobody ever sat you down
- 3:55and said I will only love you if you're useful.
- 3:57But the message was there. It was woven and deeply
- 4:01ingrained into the dynamics of these relationships.
- 4:05You learned that when you helped, you were valued.
- 4:09When you were accommodating, you were praised.
- 4:11When you made yourself small and easy and low maintenance, things
- 4:16went smoothly. And often when you expressed a
- 4:18need, when you took a little bit of space for yourself, something
- 4:23went wrong. It caused friction, or it was
- 4:26completely ignored. So your brain did what brains
- 4:30do. It adapted.
- 4:32It connected your worth to your usefulness.
- 4:35It built your entire identity around being the giver, the
- 4:39helper, the one who holds it all together.
- 4:41And over time, that identity became so ingrained and how you
- 4:45see yourself that the idea of not helping, the idea of putting
- 4:48yourself first, doesn't just feel uncomfortable, it feels
- 4:52like a betrayal of who you are. You are the one who helps.
- 4:55You are the one who keeps it together.
- 4:56You are the one who keeps yourself small and in the
- 4:59corner, who handles your own issues without bothering
- 5:02anybody. Because there's a physiological
- 5:04reason why some people are wired this way.
- 5:06And I think that's also really important to understand.
- 5:10Now, you may have heard of the fight or flight response, the
- 5:13way your nervous system reacts to threat or danger.
- 5:15But there's a third stress response that doesn't get talked
- 5:18about nearly as much. And it's called fawning.
- 5:21It was first named by therapist Pete Walker in his work on
- 5:25complex trauma. Fawning is what happens when
- 5:28fight and flight don't feel safe from the threat is coming from
- 5:32someone you love. A parent, a caregiver partner.
- 5:36You can't fight them, you can't run from them.
- 5:39So your nervous system finds 1/3 option.
- 5:41Appease them, make yourself useful, make them happy,
- 5:45disappear your own needs completely so there is nothing
- 5:48left for them to be upset about. And for some people, this
- 5:52becomes their primary way of navigating not just one
- 5:56relationship, but the world. And the thing about fawning is,
- 5:59it works in the short term. It relieves the threat, it keeps
- 6:03the peace. It earns you the love in the
- 6:05approval and the safety that you're seeking.
- 6:07So your nervous system files it away as the go to solution.
- 6:11And long after the original threat is gone and long after
- 6:15you're an adult with full autonomy and nobody is
- 6:17threatening you, that pattern keeps running.
- 6:21It's on autopilot in every relationship that you have.
- 6:24You're still appeasing people who aren't even there.
- 6:29It's become so ingrained within you.
- 6:31This does not mean that you're doing something wrong.
- 6:35This does not mean that you are a bad person or that you have
- 6:38made a mistake. It means that you adapted to the
- 6:41circumstances and the environment that you were raised
- 6:44in. You were learning how to
- 6:45survive. You were adapting to certain
- 6:47situations. And that doesn't mean that
- 6:49you're wrong. But now I want to talk about
- 6:52what this actually does to you, because I think a lot of people
- 6:54pleasers have gotten so good at minimizing their own experience
- 6:58that they genuinely haven't let themselves think about what the
- 7:02cost could be. The most obvious is exhaustion.
- 7:05Emotional, physical, existential exhaustion.
- 7:09You are running a full time operation for everybody else
- 7:12around you. You are constantly worrying
- 7:15about needs, wants, and other people's emotions, so much so
- 7:19that you don't give yourself the time to feel your own people,
- 7:23please, and quietly erodes your sense of self.
- 7:26When you spend years making yourself into what other people
- 7:29need you to be, when you reshape your opinions, your preferences,
- 7:33your needs to fit the room, you can start to lose track of who
- 7:36you actually are underneath all of that.
- 7:39What do you want? What do you believe?
- 7:42What do you need to feel OK? And for some people, these
- 7:47questions become unanswerable. Not because they don't have a
- 7:51sense of self, not because they don't know themselves, but
- 7:53because they've spent so long ignoring their emotions,
- 7:56ignoring the parts of themselves that feel too loud for others,
- 8:00that they lose themselves, that they lose what they want and
- 8:04what they need. And then there's the resentment.
- 8:06That's a really real part of people pleasing when you're
- 8:09constantly giving away parts of yourself, when you're constantly
- 8:12looking out for other people. They become used to it.
- 8:15That's just who you are. So you drop everything for
- 8:18everyone, and it feels like they hardly even notice anymore.
- 8:22You know? You rarely get a thank you.
- 8:24You hold space for everyone's feelings except your own.
- 8:27And eventually that can turn into resentment.
- 8:29And you might feel guilty about that resentment, like it makes
- 8:31you a bad person, but it doesn't.
- 8:35It makes you a human being whose needs aren't being met.
- 8:38That's not a character flaw. When was the last time that you
- 8:41did something just for you? Not because it would help
- 8:45somebody else. Not because it would make you
- 8:48more useful or more lovable or worthy of taking up space just
- 8:52for you. Because you wanted it.
- 8:54Because you deserved it. Because you matter.
- 8:56The version of you that you give up for everyone around you to
- 9:00keep meeting their needs, their wants, their emotions.
- 9:03That version of you deserves someone, too.
- 9:07That version of you deserves love and care and attention too.
- 9:12And that someone, the first one, the most important one, has to
- 9:16be you. You have to be there for
- 9:19yourself. Give yourself as much care as
- 9:22you would for a friend that is struggling.
- 9:25I personally struggled with this for a very long time.
- 9:28As many of you know, my main job is making music.
- 9:31I make mental health poetry. And when I first started this
- 9:35music, my whole motivation was rooted in other people.
- 9:39I wanted my music to help people.
- 9:41I wanted it to reach someone who was struggling and make make
- 9:44them feel less alone. And that is a genuinely
- 9:47beautiful thing. And I still want that.
- 9:49I still strive for that every single day.
- 9:51But when I first started making music, I got completely lost in
- 9:54that. I released my first album and
- 9:57then my second album. I became so concerned about what
- 10:01everyone else wanted, about what everyone else was feeling about
- 10:04my music, about how it made them feel.
- 10:06I was so concerned and wrapped up in that, that I forgot the
- 10:10reason I started in the first place.
- 10:13I started making music as a way to process emotions, how to
- 10:16figure out the complicated feelings that I was having, and
- 10:19when I became so concerned about everyone else to the point where
- 10:22I was changing my art, I was changing my process.
- 10:26I was changing my feelings in order to appease that.
- 10:29It was no longer about healing, it was no longer about creating
- 10:33a community around mental health.
- 10:35I started to lose my connection to my music in the 1st place.
- 10:39The joy of it, the freedom of it, this creation and expression
- 10:43that so many people and myself found community within it
- 10:47started feeling like obligation. I was giving so much of myself
- 10:52through the art that I had nothing left to put in, and I
- 10:54almost quit. There were several times over
- 10:56this six year career that I've been so blessed to have that I
- 10:59almost stopped making music entirely.
- 11:01And the thing that brought me back, and I mean this simply was
- 11:04making something just for me. I worked very, very hard to get
- 11:08back to that point where I was expressing simply what I needed
- 11:11to say with no consideration of whether it was useful or
- 11:16impactful or relatable. And that small act ended up
- 11:20having the opposite effect, because I wasn't worried about
- 11:24if it was useful, because I wasn't worried about if it was
- 11:26making an impact. It was way more impactful than
- 11:29any of the other projects that I had put out there.
- 11:32It reminded me that I was allowed to be the recipient of
- 11:35my own creativity, that my feelings were worth expressing,
- 11:38even if they were just helping one person.
- 11:40I didn't worry about the big picture as much.
- 11:43And I tell you this because I think a lot of you are doing the
- 11:45same thing that I was doing, just in different areas of your
- 11:49life, giving so completely to everyone around you that you've
- 11:52forgotten that you are also someone worth giving to.
- 11:56So how do we actually change this?
- 12:00And I want to be real with you. This is not a quick fix.
- 12:02I mean, this is a pattern that was built up over years, maybe
- 12:06even decades. It doesn't unravel in a week,
- 12:10but here are some places to start.
- 12:12The first thing is to simply notice.
- 12:15Before you can change a pattern, you have to be able to see it.
- 12:19So start paying attention to when you say yes and what it
- 12:22costs you. Start noticing when you ask
- 12:25everyone in a room how they're doing, but skip yourself.
- 12:28Start catching the moments when you shrink yourself, when you
- 12:31apologize unnecessarily, when you reshape your needs to fit
- 12:35somebody else's comfort. It always sounds cliche saying
- 12:39that you have to start noticing that you have to start paying
- 12:42attention to your mental health. But that is truly where we have
- 12:46to start. You don't have to change
- 12:48anything yet. Just notice the second thing is,
- 12:52is practicing a pause. And when someone asks something
- 12:56of you before you automatically say yes, try inserting just a
- 12:59little gap of silence and just saying something like, let me
- 13:03think about that and get back to you.
- 13:05You know, let me figure out my own schedule, even my own
- 13:07feelings, and figure out whether or not I have the space for
- 13:11that. That pause is where your actual
- 13:13answer lives. It's where you get to check in
- 13:16with yourself before you check in with what other people need.
- 13:20The third thing is doing one thing each day that is just for
- 13:23you. And it doesn't have to be big.
- 13:25It can just be 10 minutes of something you love and going for
- 13:28a walk, listening to a song, making a meal that you really
- 13:31like. These small acts of
- 13:33self-directed care. Or how you begin to rebuild the
- 13:37idea in your head that your own needs matter to.
- 13:41And the fourth thing, the hardest thing, is letting
- 13:44yourself receive. When someone offers you help,
- 13:48try not to deflect it. You know when someone asks you
- 13:51how you're doing, try to tell them something true.
- 13:54You don't have to spill out all of your feelings.
- 13:56You don't have to make some drastic change.
- 13:58Just one thing at a time. When someone expresses care for
- 14:02you, let it in. I know that's uncomfortable.
- 14:05It feels vulnerable in a way that giving never does.
- 14:08But receiving emotional support, being vulnerable is a muscle.
- 14:13And you, you can build it. You're not doing anything wrong
- 14:17by being a people pleaser. You're not doing something
- 14:20incredibly harmful. You're not making a mistake
- 14:23every day. And I don't want you to feel
- 14:25guilty if you've realized that maybe you are caught up in these
- 14:28patterns too. I just want to make you aware of
- 14:30it. So maybe one day at a time, you
- 14:34can start to focus a little bit more on yourself, and maybe
- 14:36you're one of those people that can perfectly balance the two.
- 14:39Maybe you are able to be there for everyone else and you also
- 14:43take the time for yourself, in which case that is a beautiful
- 14:46thing. This episode is not a message
- 14:49telling you to not be there for other people.
- 14:51It's not a message telling you to be selfish.
- 14:54It is a message telling you to be aware, to remember that you
- 14:58are important too. To give yourself the same care
- 15:01that you would give your friends because you have spent so long
- 15:04taking care of everyone else. And it is OK.
- 15:07It is more than OK to let someone take care of you.
- 15:14That's gonna wrap it up for today's episode.
- 15:16Thank you so much for being here.
- 15:18If you enjoy this podcast, one of the best ways to support me
- 15:21is by getting some merch. I'll link it in the description
- 15:24below. Also, if you need help feeling
- 15:26your feelings, you should check out my music on all platforms
- 15:29under the name of Ethan Jewel. I almost guarantee it'll make
- 15:32you cry. Thank you so much for being
- 15:35here. Thank you for understanding the
- 15:37importance of sometimes putting yourself 1st.
- 15:40And as always, thank you for feeling your feelings.
- 15:45I'll see you next time.