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Nick Emmanwori on Seahawks' Super Bowl run, Macdonald’s defense & Mom going viral | Richard Sherman · The Richard Sherman Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hope you guys are having a great New Year's accomplishing
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Speaker 1: all your New Year's resolutions and staying healthy.
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Speaker 3: They might just hear a great job of just letting
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Speaker 3: us be who we are and not changing up because
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Speaker 3: it's a Super Bowl. No, no disrespect to the Patriots
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Speaker 3: or nothing like that. I don't want to, you know,
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Speaker 3: take nothing away from them from but that game was
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Speaker 3: like I felt like I already knew in my mind.
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Speaker 3: I was just like nobody was convincing me of anything.
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Speaker 3: Whether it's like in my mind I knew I was
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Speaker 3: playing regardless, I'm liking I'm like four hundred and fifty
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Speaker 3: kel like that she's gonna borrow to me. I'm like that.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. And we got
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Speaker 1: an incredible guest back in the building after getting a
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl when Nick mm war cornerback Nickel safety linebacker,
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Speaker 1: everything for the Seattle Seahawks.
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Speaker 2: Appreciate you brother always man.
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Speaker 3: You know, glad to be back. I had a little
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Speaker 3: little little chop little chop it up session earlier in
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Speaker 3: the year, so definitely want to come back and finish it.
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Speaker 2: So no question about it.
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Speaker 1: Now, tell me how you feeling after the celebration of parade, everything.
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Speaker 2: That's going on this season.
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Speaker 1: Uh, the last time we spoke to you, you know,
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Speaker 1: a lot of uncertainty in the world. You've played in
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Speaker 1: fantastic season. You saw the growth at least I saw
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Speaker 1: the growth throughout the year when when things start clicking
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Speaker 1: for you, you started to play fast, without hesitation, without doubt,
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Speaker 1: and boy did you blossom.
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Speaker 2: It was beautiful to see. But tell me how it
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Speaker 2: went for you, Yeah, it was.
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Speaker 3: It was amazing. Like you said, like the year, the
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Speaker 3: year was just I mean written the perfect way I
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Speaker 3: would really would have wanted any other way, Like all
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Speaker 3: the upside of downs land as the losses. It was
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Speaker 3: just perfect. Like it was perfect, like something that you
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Speaker 3: won't only only only people in the building will definitely
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Speaker 3: know what it felt like. Uh, but I think you
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Speaker 3: know we we definitely had to do it for this
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Speaker 3: team was to get this raging. I knew everybody to
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Speaker 3: building knew it. And anything other than the rein he
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Speaker 3: can probably have been a disappointment.
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Speaker 1: But no, well walk me through. We're gonna go step
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Speaker 1: by step through the season. Because when I talked to
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Speaker 1: you in training camp, you know, it was it was
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Speaker 1: so new for you. Obviously you just got to the league.
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Speaker 1: You had such a big role in this defense. And
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Speaker 1: and and I think Mike was trying to make you know,
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Speaker 1: help you understand it in the most simple way. You know,
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Speaker 1: he's trying to, step by step explain it and put
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Speaker 1: you in position. Then you get hurt the first game
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Speaker 1: a few plays in, you know, when you're finally getting
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Speaker 1: your legs under you, and then you come back with
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Speaker 1: a vengeance. Start starts trying to get your legs under you.
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Speaker 1: You're playing fast, running fast, But it seems like your
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Speaker 1: role and your identity within the defense, like your confidence.
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Speaker 1: You know, I remember you feeling like you didn't have
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Speaker 1: a voice. You didn't you know, you're in rookies, don't
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Speaker 1: You're seeing and not heard. That's usually what the deal is.
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Speaker 1: But hey, you go out there and put it on tape.
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Speaker 1: They listen.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, definitely like coming into camp and stuff, Uh,
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Speaker 3: just being in a rook like, you know, this is
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Speaker 3: my first year, so it's like I'm just figuring everything out.
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Speaker 3: And I guess like with the you know, the way
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Speaker 3: the locker room was, the guys were still kind of
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Speaker 3: mission too. Like everybody had relationships, you know, from the
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Speaker 3: year prior, but like this new relationships being built. So
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Speaker 3: I was finding my way throughout all that, and uh,
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Speaker 3: you know, I definitely had to prove myself to my
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Speaker 3: teammates and my coaches what it felt like what I
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Speaker 3: was doing every day in training camp. So just going
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Speaker 3: hard at training camp. I remember like sometimes I'm thinking, like,
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Speaker 3: you know, if I'm doing the right thing, not doing
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Speaker 3: the right thing. Training camp is kind of like just
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Speaker 3: or OTAs whatever. It's just kind of like everybody's trying
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Speaker 3: to figure out their own role. And like I think
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Speaker 3: it was like it was just a different feeling, you know,
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Speaker 3: just trying to get my face out there and just
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Speaker 3: like let everybody know and try to get the respect
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Speaker 3: from the vets, the coaches. You know, it's a real
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Speaker 3: that's just typical rookie things. But like you said, like
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Speaker 3: every training camp was great, and once we figured out
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Speaker 3: on training camp that I mean we had something on
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Speaker 3: our hands as far as like we can do this
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Speaker 3: with the defense, and I think that started like clicking
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Speaker 3: early with my everything wasn't really fully ironed out, but
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Speaker 3: even thought the season, we're still out of stuff and
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Speaker 3: doing stuff, but the potential and the outlook was definitely there.
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Speaker 3: So you know, got hurt, got hurt Sam Fran game
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Speaker 3: and I feel like, you know, my hard work, everything
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Speaker 3: I was working for in camp, you know, was leading
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Speaker 3: up to this moment, and I got hurt. Like the
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Speaker 3: first game first, like you know, ten played. I don't
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Speaker 3: think I played like maybe five. I don't know if
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Speaker 3: it was ten, which was like super crazy, Like it
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Speaker 3: was like a super disappointment as far as just like
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Speaker 3: like you know, I'm about to wait to sorw the
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Speaker 3: world and like you know, looking at my you know,
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Speaker 3: getting ready to do it. I know what I'm was
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Speaker 3: getting ready to do, and then I just get like
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Speaker 3: abruptly stopped from doing that. So that kind of like
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Speaker 3: just threw me off and like just coming back from that,
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Speaker 3: so I didn't really get to soul the coaches what
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Speaker 3: I can do yet, like because there's no tape that
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Speaker 3: I ain't putting nothing on tape yet. It's just only
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Speaker 3: from trending again and that's practice, so like in game,
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Speaker 3: I don't really haven't been able to show them. So
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Speaker 3: the first game I ended up like really coming back battling,
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Speaker 3: like really through is the Buccaneers is like the first
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Speaker 3: game I was back and I was still kind of like,
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Speaker 3: you know, a little baling that high ankle, so like
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Speaker 3: the coaches didn't really know what to expect, so just
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Speaker 3: putting me out there. I didn't really start that game,
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Speaker 3: but I was like going in and rotating out, rotating in,
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Speaker 3: and there wasn't really like what we know our defense
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Speaker 3: looked at. And we missed a lot of good dudes
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Speaker 3: that game too, Like Spoon was out, the Law was out,
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Speaker 3: so like we didn't really need the identity of our
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Speaker 3: defense and what people know it wasn't really there. Just
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Speaker 3: do the injuries and just the worst timing, but it
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Speaker 3: all ended up working out. So whenever I came back
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Speaker 3: and it got acclimated, I think, you know, like the
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Speaker 3: Bucks was like I made a couple of players in
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Speaker 3: the Bucks and I was like starting getting my feet wet.
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Speaker 3: As far as just like feeling the game and just
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Speaker 3: just doing you know, young player stuff. And then the Jags,
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Speaker 3: I think I had like a having Tagers on the Jags.
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Speaker 3: I was still kind of gone battling through injuries. I
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Speaker 3: was even fully healthy, like still like feeling through the pain. Uh.
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Speaker 3: But you know that in that right when I right
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Speaker 3: when my ankle stuff on the way, and you know,
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Speaker 3: the playbook was just coming back to me. I think
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Speaker 3: Mike and them seeing exactly what I could do and
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Speaker 3: how I add value to the defense. And from there
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Speaker 3: it just kind of, you know, to go.
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Speaker 1: Talk about your role on this defense in the different positions.
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Speaker 1: I guess you know, obviously for you it's just your
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Speaker 1: same position, but it's in so many places. Like I
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Speaker 1: see you and pick stunts with the D line. I
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Speaker 1: see you covering receivers at times, I see you in
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Speaker 1: a half field, and for me, I see you in
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Speaker 1: the slot covering. I see you covering running backs, and
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Speaker 1: for me, those are all different positions. And I think
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Speaker 1: for the outside world, like at times it looks like
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Speaker 1: you're playing sam linebacker and base and then at times
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Speaker 1: it looks like you outside corner. At times you strong safety,
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Speaker 1: back deep, and then at other times you you look
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Speaker 1: like you in the you in the scrape with the
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Speaker 1: linebackers and finding the gap and getting downhill.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, did you see it that way?
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Speaker 3: Uh? As far ass like this year, Like you're just
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Speaker 3: saying like that during this season, Yeah, I think. I
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Speaker 3: think like coming in, I wasn't really what wasn't really
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Speaker 3: sure what to expect, but like as a season progressed,
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Speaker 3: it was just like for me in my mind, it
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Speaker 3: was like I'm just doing stuff I know I can do. No,
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Speaker 3: it wasn't like I never really done it or you know,
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Speaker 3: put it on film as much, but it's like I know,
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Speaker 3: I mean if coach asked me to set the edge
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Speaker 3: and get off the block and make a tackle, or
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Speaker 3: go guard this receiver or go guard this runner back
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Speaker 3: or this tight end, and like I just feel like
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Speaker 3: I can do it. So it's like he's just put
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Speaker 3: me in position and he's just making the game plan
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Speaker 3: and scheme and stuff. And then you know the players
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Speaker 3: around me, you know, they just they're elite too. So
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Speaker 3: I'm doing pig stunts and figuring I'm learning stuff as
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Speaker 3: I go, and you know, I'm pretty good at it
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Speaker 3: and just figuring out I know I got some stuff
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Speaker 3: like the work I got to work on in practice.
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Speaker 3: Like I'm like, really, you know, shout out to the coaches.
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Speaker 3: I'll start with that, like shout out to the coaches
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Speaker 3: for show. Shout up to the coaches. Uh, shout out
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Speaker 3: to all my teammates, but definitely the coaches. They definitely
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Speaker 3: it just wasn't all Mike. You know, I can say that,
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Speaker 3: like Mike got a great staff and a great team
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Speaker 3: that he uh got with him. So like you know,
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Speaker 3: I remember like having meetings with a d you know,
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Speaker 3: the defense coordinator CP. He's like outside linebackers coach, uh
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Speaker 3: Ko linebackers coach, and you know working with case guy
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Speaker 3: Jeff Howard, safety's coach. Like everybody had like a little
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Speaker 3: plan for me as far as like the in the meet,
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Speaker 3: eating room, and on the field, like they all you know,
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Speaker 3: Singior handled they had like a hand of my success.
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Speaker 3: Like so you know, you know Michael was doing a lot,
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Speaker 3: but it you know without the coaches like really buying
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Speaker 3: in and like getting a specific plan from me, like
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Speaker 3: whether it's an indie, like hey, you know it's this,
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Speaker 3: you know, in twelve minutes, go work with add and
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Speaker 3: CP and pass rush stuff and when it's when the
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Speaker 3: time clock his ten minutes, go to KO and do
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Speaker 3: some lineback and stuff. And so I'm really bouncing from
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Speaker 3: each each Indie group and then bouncing from each meeting
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Speaker 3: rooms like I kind of like had to do individual
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Speaker 3: meeting in the morning and by myself just to stay
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Speaker 3: on top of stuff. But you know, this is just
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Speaker 3: stuff I wanted to do. So really, you know, shout
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Speaker 3: out to the to the coaches and having a great
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Speaker 3: plan and just just just go on with the flood believing.
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Speaker 2: But shout out to you.
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Speaker 1: Shout out to you to be able to to take
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Speaker 1: in all that information and go out there and still
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Speaker 1: play fast. I don't think people understand how difficult that is.
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Speaker 1: I mean just going from group to group to group
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Speaker 1: and being able to process that information, take it in,
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Speaker 1: go out on the field. Hey I'm a linebacker display.
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Speaker 1: I gotta remember my fits, I gotta remember my alignment.
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Speaker 1: Hey I'm a safety display.
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Speaker 2: All right?
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Speaker 1: Who am I communicating with? Where am I out on
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Speaker 1: the field? Am I half field? Or what's the checks?
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Speaker 1: What's the moving? Where does emotion senders? Like you playing
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Speaker 1: in real? Three different universes?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's you know, it's crazy because like that's
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Speaker 3: just exactly how I feel, like subconsciously in my mind,
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Speaker 3: I'm like thinking, like yeah, like I am playing edge
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Speaker 3: and going the linebacker, like it doesn't really like it
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Speaker 3: not on the top of my mind, but it's like
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Speaker 3: it's there, Like you know, I got to like change
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Speaker 3: my mindsets, Like I gotta literally like know what I'm doing,
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Speaker 3: who I'm communicating to. If I'm communicating to d Law
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Speaker 3: or the next play, maybe I gotta communicate the EJ
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Speaker 3: next I gotta communicate the Jude or Kobe like so
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Speaker 3: it's like I'm talking to all three D levels and
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Speaker 3: just working with all three. So it was like I
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Speaker 3: kind of got to know, you know, you got to
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Speaker 3: know everything. But as far as just like shifting mindset
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Speaker 3: and shifting gears as you know, that's something I got
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Speaker 3: to stay on top of.
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Speaker 1: Bro.
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Speaker 2: It was so cool.
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Speaker 1: I forget which game it was, but you ran a
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Speaker 1: pick stunt where you ear hold the guard. It might
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Speaker 1: have been a guard ARTI tackle, but your ear holding
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Speaker 1: somebody came around and got a sack and you look
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Speaker 1: so excited just to be you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: to be part of that, you know, to just not that, Hey,
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Speaker 1: this is my play and man he got the sack. Man,
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Speaker 1: I'm mad he got sacked. You was just as happy
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Speaker 1: as for him and to make that happen for your
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Speaker 1: teammate as you were when you made the play. And
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Speaker 1: talk about that chemistry and that the way you guys
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Speaker 1: celebrated one another throughout the season.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this defense and this team in generals, but especially
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Speaker 3: on the defense because you know, we we got starters
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Speaker 3: on all even our back cups could be starters all
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Speaker 3: the other NFL teams. So it's like everybody was just
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Speaker 3: super selfless and like you know, just actually generally just
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Speaker 3: wanted to see the other player win, like you know,
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Speaker 3: like we really in this together. Like if I got
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Speaker 3: to do a pick stunt for him, or if I
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Speaker 3: got to you know, do whatever, if I got to
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Speaker 3: decoy or move around, and you know, everybody gonna get
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Speaker 3: they turn to eat, everybody gonna get their chance. But
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Speaker 3: it's like I did didn't feel that at all from
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Speaker 3: the defense. I never felt like somebody was like chasing
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Speaker 3: plays or chasing stats. I just it just felt like
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Speaker 3: we was out there just well one mindset, one goal,
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Speaker 3: like swaring the ball, kick ass like just you know,
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Speaker 3: take take take it. You know, take this game so
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Speaker 3: enoh level. So we never play with any type of
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Speaker 3: like me me top of mantil. It was just it
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Speaker 3: was weird though because we never even had to talk
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Speaker 3: about it. But like you know, some people got to
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Speaker 3: talk about some countries. I've been a part of the teams.
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Speaker 3: You know, some people got to bring it up and
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Speaker 3: you know, but we never had to bring it up.
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Speaker 3: We never had to talk about it was just just
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Speaker 3: just hot with us, like naturally. So it was it
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Speaker 3: was cool to see that.
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Speaker 1: So let's go into these playoffs because you know, y'all
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Speaker 1: killed the Niners the first game and really set the
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Speaker 1: tone in that game. Y'all just told domination. Then you
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Speaker 1: get the match up with the Rams that everybody expected
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Speaker 1: to see. Everybody felt like that would be the super Bowl.
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Speaker 1: And I in my mind, that was your Krim de
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Speaker 1: la Krim. That was your swan song. That was like,
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Speaker 1: that was your arrival on to the national scene, that hey,
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Speaker 1: this this is the one y'all need to be watching for.
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Speaker 1: I think you guarded h Pokah one play PBu Davante
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Speaker 1: Won played PBu. You was on the running back. I
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Speaker 1: thought you was in the stand selling popcorn and beer.
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Speaker 1: I thought I saw you as an attendant in the bathroom.
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Speaker 1: You look like you was everywhere in that game. Talk
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Speaker 1: me through your mindset going into it, because I've never
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Speaker 1: I can't say never, but it's rare that you see
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Speaker 1: a rookie come into a playoff game and take over
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Speaker 1: the way you did in that game.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that that is definitely a cool moment. And I
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Speaker 3: just remember just being in my zone that game, like
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Speaker 3: it was just you know, I was in the zone
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Speaker 3: and like that's just you know, I feel like I'm
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Speaker 3: just like.
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Speaker 2: That.
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Speaker 3: That game. You know, I'll probably say like the Landing
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Speaker 3: game was probably the two games I just felt the most,
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Speaker 3: like you know, like I'm just in the zone. I'm focused,
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Speaker 3: I'm on everything. But it was just like natural, like
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Speaker 3: you know, whatever is in the scheme, whatever's in the playbook,
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Speaker 3: you know, I'm just flawlessly kind of like adjust to
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Speaker 3: it and I can just make those plays. So it's like,
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Speaker 3: you know, I'm guarding the running back, making to play
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Speaker 3: garden Pooka and slot garden Vante Adams like you know,
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Speaker 3: the dudes at you, and then you know, playing ed
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Speaker 3: sitting the ed getting off that making. So it's just
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Speaker 3: that that I was just really the zone that game
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Speaker 3: and we were just focused, like I was just like
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Speaker 3: it was just a different feeling like that. Like you said,
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Speaker 3: you know, no disrespect to the Patriots or nothing like that.
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Speaker 3: I don't to you know, take nothing away from them,
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Speaker 3: but that game was like that felt like you know
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Speaker 3: that like that game was like legit, you know how
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Speaker 3: it is the rivalries, like the Rams, they coming like
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Speaker 3: they stafford your el of a quarterback. They vague, always
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Speaker 3: got a hell of a plan. But that game was
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Speaker 3: definitely different. It was it was it was a different
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Speaker 3: type of game. It was live, I was, I was
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Speaker 3: in my zone, I was I was focusing.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean you you had to tackles for lost,
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Speaker 1: you have three PPUs, and it's just the versatility and
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Speaker 1: coverage that I don't think people appreciate. It's hard for
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Speaker 1: corners to guard Pooka and Davante straight up, and that's
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Speaker 1: the only job we got that guard these dudes. And
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Speaker 1: you have a hard time for you to be like, hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm in the I'm in the linebacker room, I'm guarding
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Speaker 1: the run, I'm I'm doing pick stunts. Then I'm switching
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Speaker 1: over to straight corner straight. I got this dude in
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Speaker 1: coverage and then thriving at it. Bro, They're gonna have
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Speaker 1: to make a new position in a prop and the
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Speaker 1: all protein for because.
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Speaker 2: I don't know where theyre gonna put you. Yeah, just
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Speaker 2: put you as a straight up safety.
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Speaker 3: I've been I've been saying like like, you know, like
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Speaker 3: I played it. I played a game loss on Madden.
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Speaker 3: The kind of like got me as like they got
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Speaker 3: a cornerback card for me. You know, some people like
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Speaker 3: you know, is her safety nickel card corner They don'tly
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Speaker 3: know where to grave me. They don't know what to
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Speaker 3: get like my votes for if it's pro, They're not
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Speaker 3: really sure where to put me and stuff. So it's
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Speaker 3: like I definitely agree with that, But you know, on
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Speaker 3: the other and I think it's just you know, it's
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Speaker 3: exciting for me because I can definitely like I can't
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Speaker 3: wait to go to the offseason and put the work in.
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Speaker 3: So I know, I'm just like scratching the surface, like
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Speaker 3: you know, you know, I'm thinking of like my prime,
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Speaker 3: Like how can I get to my prime? You know?
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Speaker 3: My mind, like this is just stuff that I'm put
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Speaker 3: together but you know when I put everything together as
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Speaker 3: far as like the coverage and the pass rush and
15:16
Speaker 3: you know, the playbook and just seeing the game, you know,
15:19
Speaker 3: it's just, you know, that's what I'm that's what I'm
15:21
Speaker 3: looking forward.
15:21
Speaker 2: To, so so am I.
15:24
Speaker 1: And it feels like you're in a perfect place to
15:26
Speaker 1: maximize your skill set, to maximize what you do, and
15:29
Speaker 1: you the perfect player. It's like a really cool relationship.
15:32
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what you do because I
15:34
Speaker 1: remember how much growth I had from my rookie year
15:36
Speaker 1: to my second year. I mean, I was All Pro
15:37
Speaker 1: my second year because of just how the game. Once
15:41
Speaker 1: you play at a high level your rookie year, it
15:43
Speaker 1: almost feels like, just like you guys were saying after game,
15:45
Speaker 1: you want to keep playing right now because you're in rhythm,
15:47
Speaker 1: Like it makes sense to you seeing the looks you
15:50
Speaker 1: need to see, like your body's feeling good. You're like, bro,
15:52
Speaker 1: I can play for a long time and just never
15:56
Speaker 1: lose sight of that, never lose sight of watching the film,
16:00
Speaker 1: getting better, having those morning meetings, because the moment stuff
16:03
Speaker 1: like that becomes too routine and you get too complacent
16:06
Speaker 1: with it, Like I don't need the morning meetings no more.
16:09
Speaker 1: I'm good. I already know what I'm doing. Like then
16:11
Speaker 1: it's gone. The magic skillne the advantage is gone. The
16:16
Speaker 1: step above that you have over people is gone. But
16:18
Speaker 1: walk me through the Super Bowl because that one, that
16:22
Speaker 1: one just looked like a buzz all against the tree.
16:24
Speaker 1: You know that I was at that game and it
16:27
Speaker 1: didn't seem like y'all did nothing crazy special. I mean,
16:30
Speaker 1: y'all did the same disguises. Y'all kept sending spoon on
16:33
Speaker 1: that blitz and they had no answers for it.
16:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, that the Who Bowl is definitely experienced, you know,
16:38
Speaker 3: especially like just being there and then you know, I
16:40
Speaker 3: got hurt that week to like that Wednesday practice. You know,
16:44
Speaker 3: I got hurt. So it was like that was a
16:46
Speaker 3: lot like you know for me especially, it was a
16:48
Speaker 3: lot like but it was like a good lot almost.
16:53
Speaker 3: It was like, you know, just another Super Bowl story
16:55
Speaker 3: like the you know, the same story they had. We
16:57
Speaker 3: know we can just not forty eight just you know,
16:59
Speaker 3: something that we just need to talk about. So, you know,
17:01
Speaker 3: like getting hurt throughout the week that kind of like
17:04
Speaker 3: you know, just like like shook up. You know, nobody
17:07
Speaker 3: wants to get hurt on Super weekend for any player,
17:09
Speaker 3: whether it's me, player on offense, defense, like special team,
17:12
Speaker 3: it doesn't even matter, so like anybody getting hurt kind
17:15
Speaker 3: of like, so they kind of definitely shook up the
17:16
Speaker 3: practice a little bit, and uh, you know, everybody was
17:19
Speaker 3: like kind of checking up on me and like, you know,
17:21
Speaker 3: definitely had to make some decisions. But uh uh, you know,
17:25
Speaker 3: when I got my image in back and stuff, like,
17:28
Speaker 3: you know, there was no pressure for them put on
17:30
Speaker 3: me as far as like you got to play because
17:31
Speaker 3: its supera like, it was just you know, the doctor
17:33
Speaker 3: was telling me what it was. He was like, you know,
17:35
Speaker 3: this is what you got. You know, he then impressure
17:38
Speaker 3: me about nothing. Then you know, it was just like
17:40
Speaker 3: everything's up to you. Stuff, Like you know, it's a
17:42
Speaker 3: low ankle spring, so definitely can play on those. You know,
17:45
Speaker 3: it's totally different from a high ankle. So I already
17:48
Speaker 3: knew in my mind. I was like, nobody was convincing
17:50
Speaker 3: me of anything, whether like in my mind I knew
17:52
Speaker 3: I was playing regardless, you know, especially when the doc
17:54
Speaker 3: told me it was good news and everything was cool.
17:57
Speaker 2: Uh.
17:57
Speaker 3: So they had a shout out to them, shout out
17:59
Speaker 3: to the trending staff. Dogs know they had a great plan,
18:02
Speaker 3: great rehab, you know, may Sherman, I wasn't thinking too
18:05
Speaker 3: much about it and everything worked out. So yeah, it
18:08
Speaker 3: was dollars on that note, But as far as the
18:10
Speaker 3: week in preparation, I think Mike just did a great
18:12
Speaker 3: job of just letting us be who we are and
18:15
Speaker 3: not changing up because it's a Super Bowl, not buying
18:17
Speaker 3: into the anttics as far as like doing stuff at
18:21
Speaker 3: practice like taking the big HALFSI break and or doing
18:24
Speaker 3: anything as far as like that could just make us
18:26
Speaker 3: you know, like, I think my did a great job
18:29
Speaker 3: of just letting us know that this is the same
18:30
Speaker 3: regular we We don't need to do nothing else, nothing different,
18:33
Speaker 3: and just go out there and be us like and
18:35
Speaker 3: it showed them practice showed throughout the weekend. This dudes
18:38
Speaker 3: was just super loose, super focused, and just you know.
18:42
Speaker 2: That's what it looked like.
18:43
Speaker 1: It looked like one team on the Patriots side was
18:48
Speaker 1: happy to be there, you know, excited for the season
18:50
Speaker 1: they had and rightfully so, they had a really good season,
18:53
Speaker 1: a surprising outcome, y'all was there to handle business. They
18:58
Speaker 1: were They looked like nameless face his opponents and y'all.
19:01
Speaker 1: It didn't really matter who was out there. It could
19:03
Speaker 1: have been the Good Lord and his son and the disciples,
19:06
Speaker 1: and it seemed like y'all was gonna have a good
19:08
Speaker 1: chance to win that game. Walk me through as y'all
19:12
Speaker 1: were going through it, because there was this clip. There's
19:14
Speaker 1: this this picture out there with I think Mike talking
19:18
Speaker 1: to you and maybe Spoon and drawing something on the
19:21
Speaker 1: sheet or something.
19:22
Speaker 2: Y'all just looking locked.
19:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, me and Kobe.
19:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, you and Kobe. That's what it was.
19:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even remember them taking that. That's how
19:29
Speaker 3: crazy football is, like you just never like really remember
19:32
Speaker 3: the moments people really catch you just going through the flow.
19:34
Speaker 3: But I think it was right before we were coming off,
19:37
Speaker 3: going out on the field.
19:37
Speaker 2: You know.
19:38
Speaker 3: Mike always like Mike, Mike real man. He like, you know,
19:41
Speaker 3: this is my first year. Is so like I'm just
19:43
Speaker 3: I got to, you know, see the game first hand.
19:45
Speaker 3: But I'm trying to I can't really compare right now,
19:48
Speaker 3: But I just know that Mike he just take his
19:50
Speaker 3: job like with real seriousness and respect. Like he just
19:53
Speaker 3: got a different love for the game. So he's always
19:55
Speaker 3: adjusting on the fly, whether it's on the side line
19:57
Speaker 3: that halftime like he makes actual halftime justments like he's
20:00
Speaker 3: talking ball, so right before going to field, like he's
20:03
Speaker 3: talking ball, and he's just breaking stuff down and just
20:05
Speaker 3: want us to see a look. And so we you know,
20:07
Speaker 3: we just locked in, like you know when Mike talking,
20:09
Speaker 3: we just locked man. And what he's got to say,
20:10
Speaker 3: because like it's some good information. It's like a nugget,
20:13
Speaker 3: go out there and make you a play.
20:14
Speaker 1: So one person I don't think gets enough credit and
20:19
Speaker 1: really balled out in that game and nobody talks about
20:21
Speaker 1: him is Josh Joe. That boy was backside working and
20:26
Speaker 1: a lot of y'all, I don't know what y'all calling it,
20:28
Speaker 1: but it looked like y'all in six and the safety
20:31
Speaker 1: is three, the x opposite and you got the single
20:33
Speaker 1: isolated on the backside, and he was standing up. He
20:37
Speaker 1: had Kai Shan Boody And in some of these the
20:40
Speaker 1: shackles talk about him and the growth that you've seen
20:44
Speaker 1: from him, because that's when a lot of things changed.
20:47
Speaker 2: When when Spoon went down, Reek was.
20:50
Speaker 1: Down for a little while, and it was it was uh,
20:54
Speaker 1: I think it was Kendrick's and job out there a
20:57
Speaker 1: lot and Joe was. I mean, I think I saw
20:59
Speaker 1: incredible growth from him. And then after everybody came back,
21:02
Speaker 1: Job just stayed in the lineup. He stayed around, stayed
21:04
Speaker 1: in the rotation. And really there was a stat out
21:08
Speaker 1: there where were Reek and Spoon and Job all like
21:12
Speaker 1: giving up point two point three point four yards per reception,
21:16
Speaker 1: just strapping, And I think I don't think he gets
21:19
Speaker 1: enough credit.
21:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a bunch of unsung heroes on his
21:23
Speaker 3: defense one, but the team for one, like the whole
21:25
Speaker 3: team from offense, the special teams of defense. So it's
21:27
Speaker 3: a bunch of like unsung heroes. And but it's like,
21:30
Speaker 3: you know, it's great for us, but Job been locked
21:32
Speaker 3: in all year, like honestly, like even in training camp.
21:35
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, Like that's what I'm saying. Like this
21:36
Speaker 3: season kind of like was no season is ever like
21:39
Speaker 3: like extremely planned, because you know it would be kind
21:41
Speaker 3: of weird, you know, but I think the season just
21:43
Speaker 3: kind of fell into what it is. Like as far
21:45
Speaker 3: as like training camp, you know, we got three corners,
21:47
Speaker 3: so like as Mike is trying to figure out how
21:49
Speaker 3: we're gonna implement me in the defense and figure out
21:51
Speaker 3: how we're gonna be around. We got spoon job and
21:54
Speaker 3: Reeks on training camp is like how we gonna how
21:57
Speaker 3: we're gonna figure this out, like who won't play and
21:58
Speaker 3: it's like almost like not really competition, but like you know,
22:01
Speaker 3: you can think about it, you know, especially as an
22:03
Speaker 3: older player in the league. So I think Might did
22:05
Speaker 3: a great job and just figuring out the scheme. Like
22:07
Speaker 3: you know, like you said, we got three corners like
22:09
Speaker 3: giving up and that's on third down. So it just
22:11
Speaker 3: gives us an advantage to have three good, starting, callible
22:15
Speaker 3: corners that can play and do any job. But Joe
22:18
Speaker 3: is like you know, he been he been lights out,
22:20
Speaker 3: like you know backside, he's gonna step up there. He's
22:22
Speaker 3: gonna press you, he's gonna give you a hard time
22:24
Speaker 3: every rep, and he's gonna just keep going and keep fighting.
22:26
Speaker 3: So I think it played out perfect, Like you know,
22:29
Speaker 3: it probably wasn't all rinked out early on, but like
22:31
Speaker 3: once we figured out, like once we hit that, once
22:33
Speaker 3: everybody came back healthy and we figured out what we
22:35
Speaker 3: were trying to do, and it was just it was
22:38
Speaker 3: it was you know, it made it hard for teams
22:40
Speaker 3: on second and third down every year, every game.
22:43
Speaker 2: Every every week.
22:44
Speaker 1: Every week, y'all made it tough on him, and then
22:46
Speaker 1: we gotta talk about your mama. Your mama got famous
22:50
Speaker 1: this week, but a lot of people don't. And I
22:53
Speaker 1: don't want up here, and I don't want to get
22:55
Speaker 1: this wrong. She's not Jerry, Yeah, yeah, because that's what
22:59
Speaker 1: all my boys like, Hey, Nigerian mama. She don't get
23:02
Speaker 1: nothing about these sports. She's just disappointed. You wasn't a
23:05
Speaker 1: doctor and y'all talking about super Bowl and all y'all,
23:08
Speaker 1: y'all ain't gonna impress her. It didn't seem like she
23:10
Speaker 1: was impressed, but she was having a good time.
23:12
Speaker 2: Yeah.
23:12
Speaker 3: Like the thing about that man, my mom she just
23:14
Speaker 3: she she's like she a super super funny person. Like
23:17
Speaker 3: you know, we're a lot very similar, like to laugh
23:20
Speaker 3: like the joke. But my mom like she just super
23:23
Speaker 3: like you know, like super confident, uh, super like you know,
23:26
Speaker 3: just thinks highly of herself and anything she's doing. So
23:29
Speaker 3: I love that about her and I take a lot
23:31
Speaker 3: from her. But I think she went var and I
23:34
Speaker 3: just didn't really I didn't know nothing about those interviews,
23:36
Speaker 3: you know, which you know, it's just things just happened.
23:38
Speaker 3: But when they came out like she went far and
23:40
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, like maybe like local VARs, like
23:43
Speaker 3: maybe a couple likes, you know, maybe like ten K
23:46
Speaker 3: Like I'm looking, I'm like four hundred and fifty. I'm
23:49
Speaker 3: like that she's to me, I'm like that.
23:55
Speaker 2: It was everywhere.
23:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was crazy. She don't really know
23:58
Speaker 3: she not she older, so she's not really too into
24:00
Speaker 3: the social media. So I was telling her about it
24:02
Speaker 3: and you know, still be herself like making me laugh.
24:04
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is crazy. Like my friends, my close
24:06
Speaker 3: personal friends who actually know my mom, like like they
24:09
Speaker 3: didn't even know, Like that's how my mom been forever,
24:11
Speaker 3: Like the same way she was in the interview, like
24:14
Speaker 3: she she didn't have moments with us, just talking like
24:16
Speaker 3: one on one and I'm just dying laughing. But she's
24:18
Speaker 3: she's she's great and you know, like she she's a
24:21
Speaker 3: big fan of sports. But like I think it was
24:23
Speaker 3: just more of like you know, her just just knowing
24:26
Speaker 3: like we're what we're gonna do, Like she wasn't really
24:28
Speaker 3: like it was just more like her overconfident and just
24:30
Speaker 3: like just talking and in the future manifesting like that
24:33
Speaker 3: we're gonna go up there and handles with handle business.
24:35
Speaker 3: It wasn't gonna be too much of like a big
24:37
Speaker 3: gang like it was, you know, so I think it
24:38
Speaker 3: was more of that, just not me being a doctor
24:41
Speaker 3: or lawyer.
24:42
Speaker 1: So don't don't don't be surprised if they come calling
24:46
Speaker 1: and ask your mom to be in some commercials with
24:48
Speaker 1: you. Your mom was great and they people love that. People
24:51
Speaker 1: to eat that stuff up. That's how big the super
24:52
Speaker 1: Bowl is. Boy, it can send you off.
24:55
Speaker 2: Yeah.
24:56
Speaker 1: So, so how did you feel because South Carolina showed
25:00
Speaker 1: you a lot of love. Don Staley was out there
25:02
Speaker 1: wearing your jersey. That had to feel good too.
25:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that definitely felt good. You know it was uh,
25:09
Speaker 3: I know she was asked for one and I got
25:13
Speaker 3: got connect through with the jersey. I don't know if
25:14
Speaker 3: like my jersey's like sold out online or not. I'm
25:16
Speaker 3: not sure, but definitely Ward on the sideline and it
25:19
Speaker 3: was pretty cool. And I know she she's a she's
25:22
Speaker 3: an Eagles fan, so you know that I think that's
25:25
Speaker 3: that she did.
25:26
Speaker 2: She did what she did, so she definitely did what
25:29
Speaker 2: she did.
25:30
Speaker 1: We congratulations, brother, bro. I'm so proud of you and
25:33
Speaker 1: hopefully we can have you back on here. We got
25:35
Speaker 1: to figure out.
25:35
Speaker 2: All purpose all Pro award.
25:38
Speaker 1: For them to give you, to make sure that it
25:40
Speaker 1: encompasses everything you do. You know, they put even even
25:44
Speaker 1: with McDonald's defense, they compared you to Kyle Hamilton a lot,
25:47
Speaker 1: but Kyle does a different a lot of different stuff
25:49
Speaker 1: than you do, you know what I mean. You guys
25:51
Speaker 1: both end up covering receivers and things like that, but
25:54
Speaker 1: there's some some similarities but differences. So you know, if
25:57
Speaker 1: they gonna list you as a safety, then it's gonna
25:59
Speaker 1: be hard for any other safeties to get the spot,
26:01
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, because you're out there doing it all.
26:03
Speaker 1: But they'll they'll figure that part out. We'll lead that
26:06
Speaker 1: to them to figure out. With Congratulations on the super Bowl,
26:09
Speaker 1: on incredible rookie season and an incredible future.
26:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I appreciate it.
26:16
Speaker 2: As always. I'm here if you ever need me, brother,
26:18
Speaker 2: But enjoy this off.
26:19
Speaker 1: Season, get back to work, you know, spend your time,
26:23
Speaker 1: you know, appreciating the work that you put in and
26:25
Speaker 1: the incredible season that you had, because it's hard to
26:28
Speaker 1: have a rookie season, like it's gonna be hard to
26:30
Speaker 1: top this rookie season.
26:31
Speaker 3: That's what I'm think I'm like, damn, Like, I'm like,
26:34
Speaker 3: it's it's best. It's like you know, from the team chemistry,
26:39
Speaker 3: the late the season ended, and my like personal goals
26:41
Speaker 3: and stuff. It's just like bang bang bangs. So it
26:44
Speaker 3: will be fun to definitely try to like get there again.
26:47
Speaker 3: But I mean, I think I think we got the
26:49
Speaker 3: you know, everything works out. I think we can definitely
26:51
Speaker 3: you know, get everybody back that we definitely need and
26:53
Speaker 3: super important to go on another run.
26:55
Speaker 1: So I think it's probably was the work state. Stay
26:58
Speaker 1: at the fair forefront. It'll work just like I should.
27:01
Speaker 1: You got But I appreciate you, brother. I know you
27:04
Speaker 1: got things to do and you could be anywhere and
27:06
Speaker 1: you're here with me, and I appreciate you more than
27:09
Speaker 1: you know.
27:09
Speaker 2: If you ever need anything from me, let me know, yes, sir,
27:12
Speaker 2: appreciate it.