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- 1:14Speaker 1: is taking Stock with Kathleen Hayes and Pim Fox on
- 1:18Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio Rule forty. Uh. Just another way if you
- 1:23Speaker 1: read a lot of the information we read a day
- 1:25Speaker 1: ahead of this interview, just one more way in which
- 1:28Speaker 1: the International Olympic Committee gains and many of the athletes
- 1:32Speaker 1: who go to the Olympics, having spent most of their
- 1:34Speaker 1: lives getting ready for them, don't joining us now. As
- 1:37Speaker 1: a man who is very close to this in in
- 1:39Speaker 1: key ways, Jim Webber is the CEO of Brooks Running.
- 1:42Speaker 1: It's a Berkshire Hathaway company founded in nineteen fourteen in Philadelphia,
- 1:46Speaker 1: headquartered in Seattle, now for more than twenty years, running
- 1:50Speaker 1: shoes of all kinds, unique designs. You can buy them
- 1:52Speaker 1: online in stores. But Jim's here to talk about the Olympics,
- 1:56Speaker 1: where his company is sponsoring twelve athletes. Twelve Olympic athletes, Jim,
- 2:01Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. Thanks, it's great to be here.
- 2:03Speaker 1: So how did you get in? I mean obvious, I
- 2:05Speaker 1: guess it's an obvious thing to do to sponsor athletes
- 2:07Speaker 1: if you make running shoes. Well, it's interesting because running
- 2:10Speaker 1: is actually really unique among all sports because the soul
- 2:13Speaker 1: of running is the sport. But but what's interesting is
- 2:16Speaker 1: it becomes more than that. For us. It's a fitness, healthy,
- 2:20Speaker 1: well lifestyle activity. So running transcends the sport. So we
- 2:24Speaker 1: invest in the sport um really to inspire literally high
- 2:28Speaker 1: school kids and younger runners to compete and begin moving
- 2:31Speaker 1: because frankly, we know they'll they'll keep running on into
- 2:34Speaker 1: old age. So the sport, I would say, is the
- 2:36Speaker 1: soul of what we do. It's not the core of
- 2:38Speaker 1: our business, but it's an investment um really in the
- 2:41Speaker 1: sport and future runners. Now, I just want to mention
- 2:44Speaker 1: that it doesn't involve you directly, but it does involve
- 2:47Speaker 1: this issue of rule forty in the Olympics. Right Michael Phelps,
- 2:50Speaker 1: who is I guess he's like the crown jewel of
- 2:54Speaker 1: under armos Olympic athletes. Do you know that in the
- 2:58Speaker 1: cover on the cover of the latest Sports Illustory magazine,
- 3:00Speaker 1: do you know that he's wearing Nike sweatpants. And the
- 3:03Speaker 1: reason that he's wearing Nike sweatpants is because Nike is
- 3:09Speaker 1: the sponsor of the US team Team USA, and as
- 3:15Speaker 1: part of the legal agreement, they are required as an
- 3:18Speaker 1: Olympian to wear Nike for the sponsors. Now, the US
- 3:23Speaker 1: Olympic Committee didn't really have a comment about this, but
- 3:26Speaker 1: can you just explain what is going on here that
- 3:29Speaker 1: athletes are sponsored by one company? The Olympic Committee might say, no,
- 3:34Speaker 1: you've got to wear this because the team is sponsored
- 3:36Speaker 1: by someone else. Explained the details. So there's there's a
- 3:40Speaker 1: lot of history here too, right, because the Olympics started
- 3:42Speaker 1: with amateur athletes and only in the last few decades
- 3:46Speaker 1: has professionalism come into it. And that's a whole another topic.
- 3:49Speaker 1: But in essence, there's no question or ambiguity at all
- 3:53Speaker 1: that the Olympic Movement, the IOC and the U s
- 3:57Speaker 1: o C owns the image and name of the athlete
- 4:01Speaker 1: while they're on the team, the national team and competing,
- 4:05Speaker 1: and so, uh, Michael Phelps does not have any rights
- 4:09Speaker 1: to his image or his name during this period of
- 4:12Speaker 1: the Olympics. It's it's managed through the U s o
- 4:16Speaker 1: C and the IOC and UM. That's what Rule forty
- 4:20Speaker 1: is all about. It restricts other commercial usage of the
- 4:24Speaker 1: athletes name and image during this period of time by
- 4:27Speaker 1: any of their sponsors or partners, but most importantly by
- 4:30Speaker 1: the athlete themselves. Why why was this rural mate? Because
- 4:33Speaker 1: I think the major sponsors at the international level and
- 4:37Speaker 1: even at the governing body level for each sport, for
- 4:41Speaker 1: USA track and field, for swim, for cycling, um, they
- 4:44Speaker 1: have sponsors and those sponsors want exclusivity on these athletes
- 4:49Speaker 1: image and name during this period of time, and that
- 4:52Speaker 1: has impacts. And that's why you know, we're creating a
- 4:55Speaker 1: social media campaign around this topic, really on behalf of athletes, because, um,
- 5:00Speaker 1: this isn't basketball. I'm talking about running USA track and field,
- 5:05Speaker 1: and it's not even an n C double a sport
- 5:07Speaker 1: where each athlete is getting a two to three hundred
- 5:09Speaker 1: thousand dollar education. These people aren't getting paid at all.
- 5:13Speaker 1: They have to they have to garner their own support,
- 5:16Speaker 1: and most of them don't have a professional outlet as
- 5:19Speaker 1: they do in the NBA or tennis or golf to
- 5:22Speaker 1: make a living off of this. So for every Hussain
- 5:25Speaker 1: Bolt or Michael Phelps, I think five hundred athletes UM
- 5:30Speaker 1: that no one knows their name. They're not going to
- 5:32Speaker 1: get on the podium. But this is the biggest moment
- 5:36Speaker 1: of their life and UM they're being restricted on UM
- 5:41Speaker 1: the use of their name and and and really you know,
- 5:44Speaker 1: supporting the people that supported them. What you'll see now
- 5:47Speaker 1: in the Olympics is some of the non sponsored athletes
- 5:51Speaker 1: by the by the big brand that's sponsoring all of
- 5:54Speaker 1: these teams and others. UM is you're going to see
- 5:57Speaker 1: them put the shoes around their neck. Because the only
- 6:00Speaker 1: piece of equipment that a track and field athlete has
- 6:02Speaker 1: is their shoes. That's not too in swimming, the cap
- 6:05Speaker 1: is a piece of equipment. It's not too in cycling,
- 6:09Speaker 1: but in running, Uh, they can't say the name of
- 6:12Speaker 1: their shoe sponsor, they can't show the brand in a
- 6:16Speaker 1: commercial sense, but they can put the equipment around their neck.
- 6:19Speaker 1: And that's the only thing they can do. Tell us
- 6:21Speaker 1: about this partnership that you've got with Zappos and UM.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Nick Simmons yep so, Nick is probably one of the
- 6:30Speaker 1: most prolific voices for athletes right certainly in in track
- 6:34Speaker 1: and field, and has been two time Olympian, two time
- 6:37Speaker 1: Olympian eight runner and he was he was in fantastic
- 6:41Speaker 1: shape and got injured, so unfortunately he couldn't compete at
- 6:44Speaker 1: the trials this year and didn't make the team. But
- 6:46Speaker 1: nonetheless he is on a mission to create more balance UM,
- 6:50Speaker 1: both in terms of sharing UH the significant revenues at
- 6:54Speaker 1: the international UH and and USOC committee levels to the
- 6:59Speaker 1: athlete as well giving athletes control over their image UM
- 7:03Speaker 1: and being able to put together sponsorship and support UM
- 7:08Speaker 1: in their dream and in pursuit of this, of this,
- 7:12Speaker 1: of the metal and so he's the biggest voice on that.
- 7:14Speaker 1: So we're supporting him. Essentially, we're supporting him and this
- 7:17Speaker 1: rule forty dot com effort was really about supporting his voice.
- 7:22Speaker 1: Thanks very much for shutting light on all of this.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Jim Webber is the chief executive of Brooks Running Theory
- 7:28Speaker 1: Berkshire Hathaway, a company. They're based in Seattle. Thank you
- 7:32Speaker 1: for listening to taking stockhm him Fox My co host
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