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- 0:00You're listening to Carrie Letts's Financial Survival Network, where you get valuable information you
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- 0:27And welcome you are listening to watching the Financial Survival Network. I'm your host,
- 0:32Carrie Lutts. Well, we're all deadbeats now, at least the current
- 0:38administration. As their way, they proposed a rule that I guess all's fair
- 0:44in the love and war and politics and the mortgage finance. Basically my understanding
- 0:51of it is, and Debbie Bloyd is with us. Shall love further elucidate
- 0:55the subject that an additional fee will be charged on mortgage borrowers so that the
- 1:00good people will pay for the bad people and make the government whole? Do
- 1:06I have that right, Debby? You do? I mean it's the dumbest
- 1:10rule ever. Right, So, now we're having to give money to the
- 1:15people that don't have and really, you know, carry it doesn't go to
- 1:19the people that don't have the good credit. It's just a penalty for those
- 1:23of you that have the good credit. We don't know actually where it goes.
- 1:27Well, so the people with bad credit, do they have to pay
- 1:32this? No, No, because they haven't. They they can't. If
- 1:36they could pay any money, they wouldn't have bad credit, right, they
- 1:38wouldn't let things pile up and be late. So I don't know where the
- 1:42penalty goes, Like, if all the good borrowers are paying it, where
- 1:47does it get applied? Because how are you gonna give it to the bad
- 1:52people unless the lenders give it? I don't know. They haven't said yet.
- 1:55Who gives it? Yeah, well, probably goes to some government slush
- 2:00where they can do whatever they want with it. But what's a fee going
- 2:05to be? Do we know that yet? Oh, we don't know any
- 2:07of that yet. So it can be four to five hundred dollars, or
- 2:12it can be a percentage. I don't think they've finalized any of it yet.
- 2:15It just whatever it is is going to start May first, which freaking
- 2:19everybody out that's trying to buy houses because they don't know what's going on,
- 2:24and we don't know what's going on. It's nuts and the last thing we
- 2:30need in the current real estate environment is yet more uncertainty. You're right,
- 2:35yeah, I mean, you know, it's hard enough to try and figure
- 2:37out how to buy a house right now, what the rates are going to
- 2:39be, what the rates are going to be six months from now. We've
- 2:43got people that are hesitant to put in an offer because it's so volved.
- 2:47They're like, we'll just wait. I mean, we're gonna see. Well,
- 2:51rates are only going up, they're not going down any right now.
- 2:53So all the people waiting to see they're not doing themselves any favors. Yeah.
- 3:00So so what is a HomeBuyer to do here that I mean, well,
- 3:06I mean, if you're renting, you don't want to keep paying rent
- 3:09because you're paying the mortgage for somebody else where. There's a house or department,
- 3:14you're paying someone's payment, right, So if you can afford to buy
- 3:19something of your own, it's better than renting. But if you don't have
- 3:22a cash flow, So you know, everybody that could have a house,
- 3:24carry it said, have already gotten a house in the last few years.
- 3:29They got it rates for low, So those people aren't moving. There's not
- 3:32a lot of choices on the market, and the choices on the market and
- 3:37any state gets snapped up pretty darn quick if they're in good condition. Now,
- 3:42if they're not in great condition, people are like, yeah, I
- 3:46just you know, maybe I should just wait and find something better. So
- 3:50it depends greatly carry on the price range that you're in. I have a
- 3:54girl that's looking for condos and she can't even afford that, but the real
- 3:59state will keep taking her out. But I can't qualifier for much, so
- 4:02she doesn't like what she can afford. Then it's make more, pay off
- 4:08your car, get another job. I mean, there's other types of things
- 4:11you can do, right But I think people are stuck and confused because they
- 4:15don't understand the money market in the money world right now. Yeah, so
- 4:20look, so what are you telling people to do here? You know,
- 4:25I'm telling them if you know, I sat in an open house this weekend,
- 4:28and you know, people came by and they were looking for rental property.
- 4:30But you know, to make a cash flow, they're going to have
- 4:33to pay cash for it. The rates for an investment property or in the
- 4:38sevens now and so if you can cash flow the property, go ahead and
- 4:43buy it. And they're like, well, I really this whole cash flow
- 4:46and then they look at me like I'm the problem, and I'm like,
- 4:47well, they need got to put more money down, but we don't have
- 4:50more money down. Well, then maybe you want to sit on the sideline
- 4:54because the numbers are not going to work for you, or yeah, if
- 4:57they don't work to buy it, you've got to buy it much less expensive
- 5:00house to rent out. And they're like, well, I don't want to
- 5:03be a slum lorder. Okay, then maybe you shouldn't play in the market
- 5:06right now. It's like going into a Jaguar dealership and saying, I really
- 5:11would like this payment to be two hundred dollars a month and they're like,
- 5:15yeah, well it's eleven hundred. You're like, yeah, that's not going
- 5:16to work for me. What do they think? What do you think the
- 5:19jag dealership is gonna say, you know, oh, okay, because it
- 5:23won't work for you, change it. Oh, they say, go buy
- 5:28a buug or something. Right, They're not gonna change the way they do
- 5:31their business to reflect you. You need to make more, put more down,
- 5:35do something different, or not do anything at all. And I think
- 5:40a lot of people are just hate to think carry they're just entitled. I
- 5:44want a home. I want to be able to buy something and I can't.
- 5:46Well I don't know, be better make more, put more down.
- 5:50The numbers are not going to work out for everyone want right now, this
- 5:55is not a I mean, Biden's trying to make it a god given talent
- 5:58right to get a house. So it's a it's a right. And yeah,
- 6:02well if you wouldn't know it when you hear people right, I know,
- 6:05you know, if you've gone through a divorce, if you've had a
- 6:09bankruptcy, if you've gone through a foreclosure, it's gonna be very tough to
- 6:12get a house. If you're self employed and you haven't paid your taxes and
- 6:15you're using a traditional loan, it's going to be hard to get a loan.
- 6:19You know, then take care of your business. Not everybody gets to
- 6:23buy a house, and everybody's whining about buying a house. So it just
- 6:30doesn't work like that. This is not an entitled business. Okay, So
- 6:34so how should it work? What are you supposed to do? And you
- 6:39like this, You've got to You've got to put some money down. So
- 6:42you know what we're seeing is, you know, I'm in Dallas and in
- 6:46the being main parts of Dallas. You know, housing is very expensive and
- 6:50it's only going up. The cheaper homes are on the outskirts of town,
- 6:55which the outskirts of town keep moving right, just like in Florida, just
- 6:59like anywhere else. If you've got to get out to the burbs, well
- 7:01I don't want to drive an hour and a half, Okay, then don't.
- 7:05But you've got to find something to live in, then you mind be
- 7:08a renter. I keep telling people if they're unsure about this and they don't
- 7:13like that, you know, car, I've had a client out looking for
- 7:15a house for a year and a half. Yeah, and it's not because
- 7:17there's a lack of houses. It's because they're very unrealistic, and the longer
- 7:23they wait, the worse and guests. You know, they were looking at
- 7:28not so pretty houses a year and a half ago when they could have bottom
- 7:30at four and a half percent, but they were looking at a lower price
- 7:34range and that did not make their standards. Okay. So then back then
- 7:39they were looking for a house in the five nineties. Now they're looking for
- 7:42houses at eight hundred and that's the price a house they want. But now
- 7:46with the interest rates, they've waited so long they can't afford it and they're
- 7:49mad. Well, if you move slow in today's market, you're not going
- 7:54to be happy. Yeah, it will move fast, right, Yeah,
- 8:01So what do you? I asked, what do you do? What do
- 8:05you do? You decide faster? You you give pre approved for a mortgage
- 8:09with someone like myself, We tell you what you can afford. Then you
- 8:13go out and you find what that brings. And if you do not like
- 8:18what it brings, you either up your game and make better income, get
- 8:22a better job. And everybody in their dog is hiring right now, So
- 8:26get a better job, make invest in yourself, or you go back to
- 8:30being a rented Yeah. Those are your only choices, all right. And
- 8:35so I think that's a really tough pill for a lot of people to swallow.
- 8:43All right, Well, that's tough, right, I mean that really
- 8:45is. So you you need a house, you want to move, you
- 8:48don't want to pay rent, and what are you supposed to do? Right?
- 8:52I mean, you got to either raise the bridge or lower the river.
- 8:58Right. So you know, I tell a lot of people this little
- 9:01girl, you know, try to get out a loan for me this weekend.
- 9:05And I don't like honey, you just don't wake an up. And
- 9:07she goes, well, I make enough to pay rent for that much.
- 9:11I go, yeah, but rent is not being qualified through the government to
- 9:15get a loan, so bait. As long as you can make your bills,
- 9:18they don't care. There's not a formula like for loans. So they
- 9:22just don't understand the basic money principles. Yeah, that's really it, right,
- 9:26they don't understand money. Yeah, they think if they can afford eighteen
- 9:31hundred dollars rank, they can afford eighteen hundred dollars at a house payment.
- 9:35And no, it's not equal. It's qualifications are totally different, all right.
- 9:39So so I'm gonna need these people who this kind of attitude, is
- 9:46it everybody not? Oh my gosh, Carrie, I talk to people all
- 9:50day every day. They just don't get it. And you know, they're
- 9:54investors. There's people that want to start investing because they hear now's the time
- 9:58to buy, and they've taken some course online that says they can get a
- 10:03house for no money down. I'm like, no, not an investment property.
- 10:07They're like, well, my class said, and I'm like, well,
- 10:11that's a bunch of crap. That's not true unless you find it for
- 10:15sale by odor or fire sale or foreclosure, or someone that will sell it
- 10:18to you and you run it back to them. I Mean, there's all
- 10:20kinds of those one off stories, but that's not the reality of the market
- 10:26today. That's so true. And we know that the buyers aren't bullys firmly
- 10:31affixed to reality, right, true, and neither are sellers. There's a
- 10:35lot of people that thinks their houses are worth, you know, ten percent,
- 10:41twenty percent more than they were last year, and that's just not the
- 10:45case every the case Shiller report just came out today. It's very difficult in
- 10:50some cities to sell your house or when you think it's worth, it's only
- 10:54worth when someone will give you for it, all right, So that's what
- 11:00it's going to be my next question for you. Then, our housing price
- 11:05is actually going down? Have they stabilized? Obviously, this is a market
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- 12:16So if you're moving it. If you're moving from a city and you're
- 12:20trying to sell a house in a city that no one's coming into, you're
- 12:24going to have to wait longer to sell your house for less. If you're
- 12:28in an area where everyone wants to move Florida, Texas, Arizona, you're
- 12:33going to stand a better chance of having your value hold. Or if there's
- 12:37competition, like there are some houses that go on the market here in Dallas
- 12:39carry and because they're pristine and they're perfect, even though they're two million dollars,
- 12:45they're selling within a week because they're moving already. They're beautiful. There's
- 12:50nothing they has to be done to them. Then there's other houses that are
- 12:52eight hundred thousand dollars that have been on the market six months because they need
- 12:56a lot of work and nobody can qualify for the loan and have the cash
- 13:01to fix it up. So it takes that ride and buyer at any price,
- 13:07they just have to be looking for it. So in the good old
- 13:11days, you had owner financing and they would basically loan you the deposit.
- 13:16But you can't do that anymore under the current market to conditions here under the
- 13:20card regulations, because you've got a show income and you've got to show where
- 13:26the down payment came from, and they really annoy you about it. I
- 13:30went through a while ago, that's right, where did this come from?
- 13:33And I said, well, it came from here. I made it.
- 13:37Oh, you made it? Like you know? Are we talking the same
- 13:41language here? So you can't get owner financing? No, you can get
- 13:45limited owner financing, right sir? How much can owners can chip in?
- 13:48The closing cost they can and they can give you. They can give you,
- 13:54you know, five thousand, ten thousand, a twenty thousand a closing
- 13:58whatever you negotiate. I negotiated with a guy last year. He got twenty
- 14:01thousand towards closing costs and just to buy my house. Instead of lowering the
- 14:07price, they just gave him the money because they wanted to keep the integrity
- 14:11of the appraisals for that neighborhood and the people wanted to get out. So
- 14:16a lot of people have made the move to another residence when they could afford
- 14:22it, and now they're making two house payments. And some of them are
- 14:24willing to make great deals. It all comes down to carry their personal financial
- 14:30balance sheet, right, how much money do I have coming in? How
- 14:33much do I have going out? And you're more willing to cut those deals
- 14:35if you're under duress, yes, of course. Hey. So one other
- 14:39thing that people do often is they'll put in like a renovation credit or the
- 14:45kitchen that's payable on closing, right, right, And that'll go as long
- 14:50as you don't go to overboard with this stuff to the point where you're putting
- 14:54nothing down. Hey, what, let me ask you what to is now,
- 15:00as far as I'd see that loan maximums have been increased in many markets.
- 15:07What in the down payment requirements? Well, so FHA is always three
- 15:11and a half percent, But when you raise the FHA loan limits, you
- 15:16increase what kind of house you can buy for them of the market. So
- 15:20FHA was always going to be a first time whole buyer's loan. So in
- 15:22Houston, I closed one last week. It did not fit the FHA requirements.
- 15:28They had to go conventional, which means they had to put five percent
- 15:31down and it's you got to have your job longer. And this girl just
- 15:33got out of grad school. It was harder to get her qualified and her
- 15:37credit wasn't as good. But in the Houston area that they were looking in
- 15:41was more expensive than the FHA limits, so it would have been easier to
- 15:46qualify for an FH loan. However, they could not because the house of
- 15:52praise for more than that low limit. So the low limits are there to
- 15:56put you into different categories. But what a first time whole buyer can buy
- 16:00in Houston Maybe five hundred thousand and one neighborhood and maybe two hundred and another
- 16:06neighborhood. So a lot of the zip codes or the counties are different,
- 16:11and that's why it's different in different states. It's easier to qualify for an
- 16:15FHA loan at three and a half percent down because they take in consideration your
- 16:21job history, how long you've had credit. They let you run your new
- 16:26borrow worse through that program easier Conventional want you to have a two year work
- 16:30history. You know, a lot of people when they get out of grad
- 16:33school or they get their first jobs, they can qualify for a house,
- 16:37but they can go conventional because their job history isn't long enough. So that's
- 16:41where FH comes in. And so FHA has been raising those loan limits to
- 16:45get more people in that program. Right, I see you like and Florida
- 16:51here at the single family home, they're up to a million dollars. Now,
- 16:56no, that's what I heard. Let's well, you know, eight
- 17:00hundred may not cut it in your neighborhood. Care you're in that up here,
- 17:03not mine neighborhood. Well, this looks like a private scam site.
- 17:10Let's see loan limits, Lauria. It was some search thing there. Yeah,
- 17:18let's see what it really is. Yeah, let's see but I know
- 17:21they raised it and oh, well, for fifty three Florida counties, it's
- 17:26four hundred and twenty thousand for a single family. But so at the House,
- 17:32that means that the House of Prizes for appraises for four fifty they can't
- 17:36get that loan. It has to be more twenty five. Then the loan
- 17:40balance has to be four twenty five. So if you're trying to borrow that
- 17:42much, that's fifty three counties. I think there's eighty something here in Florida,
- 17:48and you know some of them go up to a million, eighty nine
- 17:52thousand. You know, it just depends on what neighborhood you're in. And
- 17:57you know they want to they have to extend limits to every county because you
- 18:03know, the government wants to play fair carry but it just maybe a million
- 18:07in one county at eight hundred or six hundred and another. Yeah, here
- 18:10we'll see you. I'll tell you exactly. I found the chart finally get
- 18:15you know, how to google, and like in some counties it's or seventy.
- 18:21I'm in Palm Beach County, like not on the island, it starts
- 18:26with five to fifty seven or a one unit and goes up to and by
- 18:33fifty seven looks like it. No, that means if you're putting your money
- 18:37down and after you put your down payment down, the loan that you're getting
- 18:41is higher than that, you cannot go that tide of level you can't go.
- 18:45So it's just qualifications, you know, a lot of the qualifications or
- 18:49two years work history. Credit scores got to be so much, so much
- 18:53down It's not always down payment. Sometimes he just haven't been out in the
- 18:57world with credit history long enough. That's why that FH loan is there.
- 19:02Yeah, now I'm got me curious here. I gotta se Miami Dades by
- 19:07fifty seven also, but Okaloosa County, I don't even know where the hell
- 19:11that is is six Z three so they must have like no houses there.
- 19:15Yeah. Yeah, It's it's crazy how these things are regulated and done.
- 19:19And then you know a lot of people, a lot of homeowners do it.
- 19:23Think right now, with you being able to google all that in two
- 19:26minutes, people will google stuff before they call me, but they like they
- 19:30have but they're totally clueless to get clane. And I'm like, with all
- 19:33of the you could chat gpt it and it would tell you how to get
- 19:37a mortgage, So you'll just tell chat GPT to fill out your mortgage application,
- 19:45right, yeah, I sure wish. But you know, people don't
- 19:48know what the ramifications are for what they do. So we've had people that
- 19:52have had two jobs and they're like, well, I was told that if
- 19:55I have two jobs, I can count them both, not unless you have
- 19:57them both for two years, right, And then I have people say,
- 20:00well it's ten months, Okay, ten months is not two years. That
- 20:03fails, you know. You know, so people are not exact on anything,
- 20:08and I have to be the exact person. They don't like it because
- 20:11they're like, well but it's close enough. Yeah, that's pop underwriter.
- 20:18It's not clear right right za if I didn't know better, I think you're
- 20:21getting a little burned out here. I am, you know that. But
- 20:25you know what, people, I have a closing next month. Carry the
- 20:27people have waited and built a house. It's four million dollars. Now they've
- 20:32waited a year and a half for this house to be done. And the
- 20:34rules have changed for bank statement loans like a hundred times since we started.
- 20:41They went from ten percent down last summer. So now they have to put
- 20:44twenty percent down on four million dollars. That's a lot of money. Yeah,
- 20:48that's so you're talking another four hundred k. That's substantial. Well,
- 20:55when we talk in a year, where do you think the market's going to
- 20:56be then, But oh heaven, you're ball Oh my gosh, it gives
- 21:02me a headache just thinking about it. I think the race will come down
- 21:07a little. I think consumers will get more accustomed to the rates being high
- 21:11like this and they won't still be remembering the three percent days because that's not
- 21:17going to happen. And if you're waiting on that, I think people are
- 21:19going to get more realistic because I think the economy is going to be doing
- 21:22worse next year. Yeah, I think there's a good chance of that based
- 21:26on all the layoffs are seeing, especially in the tech sector, although in
- 21:30certain key markets like Texas and Florida, definitely real estate slowed down. We're
- 21:36definitely seeing rice cuts, you know, Like I'm a member of MLS here
- 21:42in Florida, in Peach County and the Miami it's called IRA Miami Bartie,
- 21:52and you know, I get the price cut notifications like constantly coming in and
- 21:57I think that's the end the looking ahead. In the meantime, though,
- 22:03if you could take on any more people who need your help and who will
- 22:08hopefully do a little homework on their own and not just dump on you.
- 22:12And what you're talking about is clients dumping on you. They just don't understand.
- 22:18Yeah, how did they reach you? How did they connect with you
- 22:21on the web? And get more infoe So money Strategies with Debbie dot com
- 22:27is a website that has a contact page. They can get with me.
- 22:30They can call me. My numbers on there as well. You can go
- 22:33to dlbeing Mortgage Services dot com and find me. There's there's lots of ways
- 22:38out there, and I've got a phone number. I'm on TikTok, LinkedIn,
- 22:42I'm on Instagram and Facebook is under Debbie Bloyd. So just find me
- 22:48and I will be happy to help in any way I can and get you
- 22:52on the right road. Teach your parents how to buy a house, you
- 22:53how to buy a house. How I have to educate the whole family?
- 22:57All right, Well, we appreciate that. If you've got a question for
- 23:00deb you can always shoot us an email and we will get you with an
- 23:06answer. The link to her site is in the show notes for this interview
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