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Other Mommy · High n' Dry Podcast

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SPEAKER_00: This thing's getting torn apart everywhere I look.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I would tear uh tear other mommy apart too.
0:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: You'd throw your uh hat into that ring, see what happens.
0:29
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
0:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, give it a shot.
0:34
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean So you can turn in anybody, huh?
0:38
SPEAKER_02: Anybody I want.
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SPEAKER_00: That'd be the whole plan.
0:42
SPEAKER_00: Well, hey everybody, welcome to High and Dry Podcast.
0:45
SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Ryan Barron North.
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SPEAKER_00: With me as always, James Crosslin.
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SPEAKER_00: We, of course, the only podcast keeping alive the fandom of the incredible shrinking day.
0:55
SPEAKER_00: It uh was a uh a music video that played on Cartoon Network about Ed Ed and Netty, where it was a full music video that they played as a commercial where Ed Ednetti would be shrunk down and uh the music it sort of turned into a cult favorite.
1:17
SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, I've never heard of it.
1:20
SPEAKER_00: No.
1:21
SPEAKER_00: Well, that was my thing, Ed, Ed, and Eddie.
1:25
SPEAKER_00: But they would play it um just like as this little special presentation commercial.
1:30
SPEAKER_00: It didn't even have to be ed, ed, and eddy.
1:34
SPEAKER_00: But uh I don't remember the song lived on through this podcast.
1:39
SPEAKER_02: A lot of people said Nevermind, I remember it.
1:42
SPEAKER_02: You do no well, I mean, for the purposes of this podcast.
1:47
SPEAKER_00: Well, a lot of people thought it was written by uh They Might Be Giants.
1:51
SPEAKER_00: Do you remember them?
1:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know I know they might be giants, yeah.
1:55
SPEAKER_00: Um, but no, it wasn't actually written by them.
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SPEAKER_00: It's just a similar style.
1:59
SPEAKER_00: It was actually written by Stuart Hill and performed by Garrett Freyruch.
2:06
SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
2:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there you go.
2:08
SPEAKER_00: The incredible shrinking day.
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SPEAKER_00: So we're not gonna be talking about it the whole time, though.
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SPEAKER_00: This week we are talking about the film Other Mommy.
2:16
SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna be doing in a three-part method guaranteed to get you results.
2:19
SPEAKER_00: All right, first we're gonna rate this thing out of five stars.
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SPEAKER_00: Indisputable after that point.
2:24
SPEAKER_00: Then we're gonna dive onto the golden path for the deeper meanings that we were bludgeoned with in this film.
2:30
SPEAKER_00: And then we are going to insert ourselves drugs or alcohol into the film.
2:35
SPEAKER_00: And what makes it so special and fun is that we will be doing it under the influence.
2:39
SPEAKER_00: So, James, uh, you bring in your special today?
2:41
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
2:42
SPEAKER_02: Coffee.
2:44
SPEAKER_02: Ubilliqueur.
2:46
SPEAKER_02: It hasn't run out yet.
2:46
SPEAKER_02: I got maybe one more in me.
2:49
SPEAKER_00: Well, I'll be joining you this week, of course, with the usual.
2:53
SPEAKER_00: I have a peek and tides Cabernet Sauvignon from uh 2023, yeah.
3:01
SPEAKER_02: Yes, so we'll be enjoying that.
3:04
SPEAKER_02: So wine is definitely a new a new booze on the show.
3:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, this is the first wine we've had right here.
3:14
SPEAKER_00: This is a big day.
3:16
SPEAKER_02: So you're kidding, you're gonna get other mommy drunk.
3:20
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
3:22
SPEAKER_00: I already took uh series of uh pills and things before the show, so this will this will mix nicely with them.
3:29
SPEAKER_00: So let's line them up.
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SPEAKER_00: This first toast, this one goes out to our newest listeners.
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SPEAKER_00: These ones are coming to us from I have Ishire de Sevre, I'm assuming.
3:44
SPEAKER_00: Also, Tokyo.
3:45
SPEAKER_00: We forgot about Tokyo every once in a while, but we welcome back.
3:49
SPEAKER_00: And then uh Broken Bo decided to join us for one more round.
3:53
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's great.
3:55
SPEAKER_00: Thanks, Broken Bow.
3:57
SPEAKER_00: So here's to them.
3:59
SPEAKER_02: Cheers.
3:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just let us know when you want us to come by Beaver.
4:02
SPEAKER_02: Oh shit, I forgot the name.
4:03
SPEAKER_02: I forgot I already forgot the name of the park.
4:06
SPEAKER_02: Beaver something, Beaver's End.
4:10
SPEAKER_00: Just where public can watch us and make sure that we're safe.
4:16
SPEAKER_02: It's for the public's safety, too.
4:20
SPEAKER_00: So the next one.
4:22
SPEAKER_00: This one goes out to well, here's to uh the first glass of wine on the show.
4:28
SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
4:30
SPEAKER_00: I took a nice strong couple gulps here.
4:34
SPEAKER_00: Get me where I need to be.
4:36
SPEAKER_02: Oh very nice.
4:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, it's not bad.
4:39
SPEAKER_00: It's not bad.
4:41
SPEAKER_00: I used to be a wine drinker back in the day.
4:44
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I know.
4:46
SPEAKER_02: I watched you drink multiple bottles of wine in one sitting and then you played with a baby.
4:54
SPEAKER_02: That sounds terrible.
4:56
SPEAKER_02: I mean, like wrestled with a baby.
5:05
SPEAKER_02: In a playful way.
5:07
SPEAKER_02: Not in a not in a pedophilic way, which is what everyone is assuming.
5:12
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
5:13
SPEAKER_00: I'm glad that we had to uh to clear that up.
5:15
SPEAKER_00: But you drank the rest of the wine.
5:17
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, yeah, I drank two bottles also.
5:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
5:20
SPEAKER_00: No, it was more.
5:21
SPEAKER_00: I think we we definitely drank more than two bottles because remember we sent people out to go get more.
5:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I thought we drank two bottles each.
5:28
SPEAKER_00: I think I'm pretty sure we drank closer to three to four bottles each.
5:32
SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
5:33
SPEAKER_02: All right, well, yeah.
5:34
SPEAKER_00: We even busted out that nasty pineapple stuff.
5:37
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, that was on the shelf for too long and never better swill.
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unknown: That's awful.
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SPEAKER_00: But we drank it.
5:46
SPEAKER_00: So uh final toast.
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SPEAKER_00: This one goes out to our film this week.
5:50
SPEAKER_00: Here is to Other Mommy.
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SPEAKER_00: Other mommy, cheers.
5:55
SPEAKER_00: That is lovely.
5:56
SPEAKER_00: So well, do you want to do the breakdown on this one?
6:01
SPEAKER_00: Spoilers ahead.
6:03
SPEAKER_00: Sure, yeah.
6:05
SPEAKER_02: So Other Mommy is a 2026 movie uh based on a novel, I've heard, uh, that uh follows a family, uh, a girl boss and her husband who it seems to have been out of work for a little bit, and their daughter.
6:30
SPEAKER_02: Uh their daughter starts to have like unsettling interactions.
6:35
SPEAKER_02: We actually uh like the movie opens and very quickly we move into a scene.
6:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they jump right into it, exactly.
6:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we move very quickly into a scene where Jessica Chastain leaves the house to go to work, and then she shows up again, and uh and it seems like she's being a little incongruent in her actions, and then we see her floating off the ground, and suddenly the kid, you know, is like, oh, I thought you said you weren't gonna leave my room, and we're like, What the fuck is going on?
7:08
SPEAKER_02: They threw us right into it.
7:09
SPEAKER_02: And the scene that was in all the trailers where she's under the counter and and the dad, you know, encounters her and falls through the plate class window is like within the first like 10 minutes of the movie.
7:20
SPEAKER_02: And um we very quickly are rocketed into this this twisted this this story of like twisted reality and perception and uh uh other mommy, like she she calls this character other mommy who who looks like her mother.
7:42
SPEAKER_02: Uh but it can take the form of whoever it chooses in order to uh make uh the little girl uh feel comfortable.
7:56
SPEAKER_02: And very quickly we start to see cracks form in the relationship between the mother and husband.
8:05
SPEAKER_02: Uh the mother doesn't believe the husband that he saw a thing that looked just like her and chased him through a window.
8:13
SPEAKER_02: Uh you can tell that there's like trust issues, uh, there's a babysitter that they hire who's like used to their bullshit.
8:20
SPEAKER_02: And uh and you see everyone's kind of dealing with their bullshit.
8:24
SPEAKER_02: There's a guy that seems to be a little too close with the mom, and and the little girl realizes that.
8:32
SPEAKER_02: And so we move through this story with other mommy like taking her to other real like other like dream versions of reality and then dumping her back into reality where she like literally ends up moving through space and time.
8:47
SPEAKER_02: Uh, and that continues to happen through the movie and progresses and gets more and more uh intense until other mommy starts showing up in front of other people, kills a family friend, uh, chases the family across the country, um it shows up in public and stuff in like a ball pit in a in a McDonald's analog.
9:10
SPEAKER_02: Uh and then in like I would say the I would say probably the what I thought was the climax, but there ended up being another climax after it.
9:20
SPEAKER_02: They hire some ghost hunters, and the ghost hunters show up, and then they all get murdered.
9:28
SPEAKER_00: Very uh very viscerally, too.
9:30
SPEAKER_00: It like this thing this thing was powerful.
9:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, it was unweaving people a lot.
9:36
SPEAKER_02: It was very interesting.
9:39
SPEAKER_02: Uh until eventually, you know, we there were some clues here and there that the little girl had the power to stop other mommy.
9:45
SPEAKER_02: She had punched it at one point and it kind of and it like had to recoil and dissipate like early in the movie.
9:52
SPEAKER_02: Uh, but near the end of the movie, she kind of stands up to it.
9:56
SPEAKER_02: It keeps asking to enter her heart to like trust it and give it power so it can survive.
10:02
SPEAKER_02: And she tricks it at the end uh to and she ends up beating defeating it and sending it away after her parents reveal deep family secrets that that uh that her father isn't her her biological father, and that her mom never really was ready to have a child, and she hasn't been a good mom because of it.
10:27
SPEAKER_02: Uh stuff like that.
10:29
SPEAKER_02: And and that's kind of the allegory for the movie.
10:33
SPEAKER_02: Uh uh, but in the end, the little girl defeats it, and you can see that the family is still kind of tense, but that it's an understanding tenseness where relationships are just kind of tense sometimes.
10:48
SPEAKER_02: And that's how the movie ends.
10:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, uh that sums it up right about there.
10:54
SPEAKER_00: But uh no, this thing was really powerful, and I uh I was trying to figure out what it was, and like the people I was watching it with, there was this quote about demons in the beginning.
11:04
SPEAKER_00: This thing did not behave like a demon.
11:06
SPEAKER_02: I think she's a she's almost like a carry.
11:10
SPEAKER_02: I think she's a psychokinetic, is what I think.
11:14
SPEAKER_02: I think it's oh you think that it's not a it's her.
11:18
SPEAKER_02: I think the little girl is is psychokinetic.
11:21
SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
11:22
SPEAKER_02: She's just like a really powerful psychokinetic.
11:25
SPEAKER_00: Oh.
11:26
SPEAKER_00: I thought this thing was a fe.
11:28
SPEAKER_00: And because it was very Faye in its movements, very all that kind of thing.
11:35
SPEAKER_00: Um like I thought it was trying to changelinger.
11:39
SPEAKER_00: You know, that's a possibility.
11:41
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
11:42
SPEAKER_00: It feels very much like a fey entity was trying to put a changeling into our world.
11:48
SPEAKER_00: Um I definitely didn't feel I did not get demon.
11:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I didn't get demon from it either.
11:53
SPEAKER_02: There's no like religious allegory or anything.
11:57
SPEAKER_00: No, and and like it had too much power without possession and stuff like that.
12:01
SPEAKER_00: So I just I didn't buy demon, even though it had that little quote in the beginning where it stopped on demon, you know.
12:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I didn't feel it was that way.
12:09
SPEAKER_02: And it didn't respond to any of the things that were laid out that typically are banes for uh for beings.
12:18
SPEAKER_02: It was like all it was the only thing that hurt it was the little girl, like her like personal realizations and and her commitments and her like resolve were the only things that hurt it.
12:33
SPEAKER_02: Where Faye have like Faye have like banes, you know, like ones that cover all of them and then their own individual ones, and we didn't see any of that.
12:42
SPEAKER_02: So that's kind of that's how I came to the clues, and then I think it was all coming from inside her.
12:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there was definitely there was all the sparkling, all the glittering, and then she punched it, and it was the glitter, like the glitter came from her, and so I was like, okay, so it's kind of like do you remember when I do you remember when you were born I was inside you?
13:03
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's kind of like she's been there since her since the beginning, you know?
13:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
13:10
SPEAKER_00: No, I mean that would be interesting to uh see that play out, especially as she gets older and stuff like that.
13:18
SPEAKER_00: That would be interesting.
13:19
SPEAKER_00: Um well, what do we think about this movie?
13:22
SPEAKER_00: Do you want to tackle it?
13:23
SPEAKER_00: What do you want to go?
13:24
SPEAKER_02: I can go first, that's fine.
13:26
SPEAKER_02: Uh so for acting, I thought the little girl, hold on, I should probably get these names, huh?
13:33
SPEAKER_02: Because I just called her the little girl the whole time.
13:35
SPEAKER_02: Her name is Bella, and she's played by a girl named Arabella, so they just called her her own name.
13:40
SPEAKER_02: They're like, this little girl's not gonna fucking remember a character name.
13:44
SPEAKER_02: She's not gonna we we tried, she doesn't look, she doesn't look at the camera when we do it, so we're just gonna call her Bella.
13:50
SPEAKER_02: Uh so uh yeah, Arabella Clark is the actress who plays Bella, and I thought she was really so we've had a spade of child actors who've done a good job recently.
14:02
SPEAKER_00: Well, like I I just just today, before I got on this, I had watched Children of the Corn.
14:07
SPEAKER_00: And just being reminded of how bad child actors traditionally are.
14:13
SPEAKER_00: And recently we've had these ones that are like acting with the best of them.
14:17
SPEAKER_00: And I just want them to be there.
14:19
SPEAKER_00: I need I think there should be wellness checks being done on these superb child actors.
14:25
SPEAKER_00: Um, because it's almost unnaturally good at this point.
14:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for real.
14:30
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, we need to do a whole expose about how child acting has improved leaps and bounds.
14:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like that, like probably has to do with directing coaches, you know, like something's weird.
14:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it probably has to do with directing and uh uh you know, not just directors, but also directors of cinematography and stuff like that, who are getting the right angles and and they're able to set up scenes to like get child actors to repeat their lines over and over.
14:57
SPEAKER_02: Film editing has has become easier, you know.
15:01
SPEAKER_02: So I feel like that probably has a lot to do with it too.
15:03
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, we don't know how many takes these kids at these kid actors had to do, but people are more willing to be like, no, no, take it again until we get it right, you know.
15:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, maybe that's the case.
15:16
SPEAKER_02: But uh yeah, so Arabella was really good.
15:19
SPEAKER_02: Uh it's really funny.
15:22
SPEAKER_02: I didn't realize that that was, you know, I didn't realize realize that was a Duplass brother.
15:27
SPEAKER_02: Uh Jay Duplas is the is the dad.
15:30
SPEAKER_02: He's the brother of Marc DuPlass, which I can't fucking stand Marc Duplass.
15:35
SPEAKER_02: But but but this guy, this guy's good.
15:38
SPEAKER_02: I like this guy.
15:39
SPEAKER_02: I like Jay.
15:41
SPEAKER_00: Real.
15:41
SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to Jay did a good job.
15:45
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
15:46
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, yeah, that is cannot fucking stand Mark Dupless.
15:49
SPEAKER_02: I cannot stand the guy.
15:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but Jay did a really good job.
15:53
SPEAKER_02: Jay did a good job playing like an every guy who's like doing his best and really loves his his kid who he took care of who isn't who he didn't have to, is not a biological kid.
16:04
SPEAKER_02: But like, yeah, I thought he was great.
16:07
SPEAKER_02: And of course, Jessica Chastain is excellent in her dual role as as an uptight standoffish uh you know business mom and also obsessive other mommy.
16:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, thought that was I thought they were both.
16:25
SPEAKER_02: I thought I thought the core family was really good.
16:27
SPEAKER_02: I also thought the babysitter was really good.
16:29
SPEAKER_02: Everyone else, whatever.
16:31
SPEAKER_02: Uh babysitter was great.
16:32
SPEAKER_02: Uh play playing a great like annoyed teen, but also caring and fun.
16:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's like a decent dude, yeah.
16:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
16:41
SPEAKER_02: And uh also DJ and Lackman, uh, who was in uh Altered Carbon, who played the sister in Altered Carbon, showed up.
16:50
SPEAKER_02: I was like, whoa! I was like, yeah, you act, girl.
16:54
SPEAKER_02: I love it.
16:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and she I did appreciate a lot of scenes with her in uh Altered Carbon for sure.
17:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and she was uh and in this one she played a really good, like overconfident psychic ghost, you know, seance leader, a medium.
17:11
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, so acting, uh, you know, nothing um nothing reality bending here, uh, but I am gonna give it a I'm gonna give it a four because I thought it was good.
17:25
SPEAKER_02: I thought I thought everyone did the best they could do with this material, and the material wasn't horrible.
17:31
SPEAKER_02: Cinematography.
17:32
SPEAKER_02: I thought the cinematography in this was really interesting.
17:36
SPEAKER_02: I've seen people online because I've I've of course wanted to look to see what people were thinking about this movie, and a lot of people complained they attacked it real hard.
17:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a lot of people complained about like not understanding the like movement through space, the geometry, and it's like, yeah, uh the other mommy is warping the geometry and geography of things, and and they're like they're complaining about jumpscares.
18:06
SPEAKER_02: I was like, Well, this fucking entity like moves all around this this entity.
18:10
SPEAKER_02: The whole thing is that it stays in the corner of your eyesight because it doesn't want to be it's not ready to be perceived by anyone yet.
18:18
SPEAKER_02: And and I felt that they gave good reasons for those kinds of things because it's still trying its best to convince Bella, you know, just to accept it without having to do anything overt yet, uh, you know, when it's staying, when it's staying uh hidden.
18:35
SPEAKER_02: And I thought cinematography the cinematography like when like when when she when Bella opens the door with the babysitter and he's looking in and and she's like, Do you see her?
18:48
SPEAKER_02: And and he's looking in, and then like the camera just tilts up a little bit, and it's so shadowy, and you see the hair hanging there and a hand, and you're like, Oh fuck.
18:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
18:59
SPEAKER_02: That that wasn't a jump scare, that was a that was what we were talking about with science, which was the block and reveal, where where it was already in the scene, and then you move the camera and it changes the context.
19:14
SPEAKER_02: And I the movie did that, and that kind of stuff is really good.
19:19
SPEAKER_02: And people I think people were tearing this movie apart, and I don't really understand why.
19:23
SPEAKER_02: I was engaged the whole time.
19:24
SPEAKER_00: I was never kind of feeling the same.
19:26
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, why are you guys so angry at it?
19:28
SPEAKER_00: Like it was it was very competent, it was it was definitely uh uh visually entertaining.
19:37
SPEAKER_02: Well one scene that I really really liked, another one was when she uh teleports from the um the ball pit into the ocean, and then you and then you see it like from above, she's in like a uh she's in like this uh raft of balls, you know, uh floating in the ocean, and then and then it's like zoomed out really far, and you're like, what exact why are we zoomed out so far?
20:01
SPEAKER_02: And then you see like other mommy like gigantic under the water, like reaching her hand up, and then it like then you see from the other, you know, it pops out like a whale and comes down to her.
20:12
SPEAKER_02: I thought I thought all of that was really inventive, and I thought that it was really interesting, and I don't know what the fuck people are talking about.
20:20
SPEAKER_02: I I'm gonna give the cinematography a 4.5.
20:24
SPEAKER_02: I was engaged the whole time.
20:25
SPEAKER_02: The shifts in geometry, like turning upside down and going on the ceiling and all that shit, was fun.
20:32
SPEAKER_02: It was fun and engaging, and it gives you the it gives you insight into like the it's like a it's like dream, it's like a child's dream.
20:40
SPEAKER_02: A lot of it was so much of it was like a child's dream, and that's like the whole point of the movie.
20:44
SPEAKER_02: Is she moving it?
20:46
SPEAKER_02: It's children have a warped perception of reality, and this expression of power and movement through reality is warped.
20:54
SPEAKER_02: I I don't know.
20:55
SPEAKER_02: I I thought it all linked together really well.
20:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:59
SPEAKER_02: Uh the score, damn it.
21:01
SPEAKER_02: I forgot to pay attention to the score, like always.
21:04
SPEAKER_02: Hmm.
21:06
SPEAKER_00: I've been humming other mommy all day.
21:11
SPEAKER_03: Other mommy, other mommy.
21:19
SPEAKER_02: Uh I thought it did its job.
21:21
SPEAKER_02: We'll give it a three.
21:23
SPEAKER_02: Damn it.
21:26
SPEAKER_02: One of these days.
21:27
SPEAKER_02: One of these days.
21:31
SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
21:32
SPEAKER_02: Uh so plot.
21:33
SPEAKER_02: Uh plot.
21:35
SPEAKER_02: I I am still uncertain about the experience that is being can conveyed uh or the feelings that are being conveyed, but that doesn't mean I can't relate to them.
21:57
SPEAKER_02: I can't see the line and follow the plot through those feelings that Bella's having, even though I've finding it difficult to relate at times or understand the metaphor.
22:10
SPEAKER_02: But I still enjoyed it.
22:13
SPEAKER_02: Uh I still found I I really like that they started you, they kicked you off right into it.
22:19
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I like that there wasn't a bunch of build-up.
22:22
SPEAKER_02: I still, I still, over the course of the movie, gained empathy for these characters without having to take like 30 fucking minutes at the beginning to be like, see why you should care about these characters.
22:34
SPEAKER_02: Please, please, for the love of God, care about these characters.
22:37
SPEAKER_02: I put so much time and effort into these characters, please.
22:41
SPEAKER_02: Please, I'm telling you, something's gonna happen to them.
22:44
SPEAKER_02: You gotta care.
22:45
SPEAKER_02: They didn't do any of that, they got me to care along the way.
22:50
SPEAKER_02: And uh, I feel like that's really good.
22:53
SPEAKER_02: That's really good plot structure.
22:57
SPEAKER_02: Uh and there were a few unexpected things happening.
23:00
SPEAKER_02: I didn't know like the twist with the ghost hunters.
23:03
SPEAKER_02: You thought maybe that they were bullshit, but they seemed really competent, and they seemed uh, you know, and the twist that they did, they had never seen a ghost was very funny.
23:15
SPEAKER_00: Uh they really got me there.
23:17
SPEAKER_00: See, and I was talking to some people who they felt that the ghost hunters was very random and out of place, but like I could definitely see that being a place you turn, especially if you happen to have someone in your family who has been super lured into that entire world there.
23:35
SPEAKER_00: It might be something you tried.
23:37
SPEAKER_02: And they're wealthy, they're wealthy, so they have access to the kind of resources that that would require.
23:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
23:44
SPEAKER_00: I mean, like normally we saw this economy in this economy, a ghost hunting crew, no way.
23:50
SPEAKER_00: No way.
23:50
SPEAKER_00: We uh we can't do that.
23:52
SPEAKER_00: But for the rich, it's definitely an option.
23:55
SPEAKER_02: I think that if it was like a family that was that like some doors had closed or anything and they hadn't seen anything necessarily, like that would be different.
24:04
SPEAKER_02: Like, I would say calling a whole ghost hunting crew would be like kind of like that's what they jumped to.
24:09
SPEAKER_02: But this thing like unraveled their friend in front of them and like teleported their daughter multiple times and shit like that, and uh I do do literally anything.
24:23
SPEAKER_02: I would try literally anything at that point.
24:25
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
24:26
SPEAKER_02: So so I don't think that that was a bad idea.
24:30
SPEAKER_02: The plot, I I'm gonna give it a four for plot.
24:34
SPEAKER_02: I thought it was really good.
24:36
SPEAKER_02: And rewatchability, I'm very interested in re-watching this again because I would like to be able to digest things because, like I was saying, like it really is a wild ride, like they keep you they keep you moving and they keep you tense, and you never know when other mommy's gonna pop up, so you're really paying attention to like the scenery and stuff, and you don't have a lot of time to digest the metaphor of what's happening.
25:03
SPEAKER_02: And I'd really like to have another opportunity to digest the metaphor, and we're gonna talk about that more, of course, of course, in Golden Path, but but yeah, I'd really like an opportunity to pick up more of it as it goes because I was engaged, I was engaged the whole time, and I can't wait uh I can't wait to see it again.
25:22
SPEAKER_02: Uh so I'll give it a four for rewatch.
25:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:26
SPEAKER_02: I really like this movie.
25:28
SPEAKER_00: Very solid, very solid.
25:29
SPEAKER_00: Alright.
25:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, so for me, I thought the acting was really well done.
25:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
25:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh Jessica Chastain, obviously.
25:39
SPEAKER_00: This thing did give me mama vibes.
25:42
SPEAKER_03: Mama, yeah.
25:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:45
SPEAKER_00: A lot of mama vibes out of this thing.
25:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, but uh the acting, and she was in that too.
25:53
SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, she was like the Joan Jettish, you know, woman who wasn't ready to be a mom.
26:00
SPEAKER_02: But um should Jessica Chestane is never gonna be ready to be a mom.
26:04
SPEAKER_00: No, and we just gotta accept it.
26:06
SPEAKER_00: We just gotta accept it.
26:08
SPEAKER_00: But uh the acting was really good, especially you know, from our child actor there.
26:13
SPEAKER_00: It was strangely good.
26:15
SPEAKER_00: And again, uh just a wellness check, send someone down there, because like there's an acting coach putting cigarettes out on her.
26:25
SPEAKER_00: So uh someone someone check that because her acting was I'm torturing children so that they understand the feeling of being tortured.
26:34
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
26:36
SPEAKER_00: Which is an important lesson for any child.
26:39
SPEAKER_00: But uh uh the acting here was really good.
26:43
SPEAKER_00: Uh I'm gonna give the acting a four out of five.
26:46
SPEAKER_00: Um cinematography.
26:48
SPEAKER_00: Nice, I was visually entertained the whole time.
26:51
SPEAKER_00: I I don't know why people are coming at this thing so hard.
26:56
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I don't understand it because uh the scenes were all told really well.
27:03
SPEAKER_00: The uh like everywhere they went, there was a story being told with where the camera was placed.
27:09
SPEAKER_00: I mean, even just uh when they wind up at the pizza palace and just sort of this uh we've been so used to this um high-class lifestyle that these people lead with just beauty and everything like that, and then all of a sudden for it to be sort of flipped on itself in the pizza place, but at the pizza place, it's the first time we kind of see the child kind of happy, like being removed from these um very highbrow, elegant environments, and just sort of allowed to be a child there a little bit.
27:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I felt that came through with the cinematography and uh just the fantasy aspects of it, the blending of space, and you know, there's something always just off camera, and them giving just enough for you to know that it's there until it comes, I thought it was really well done.
28:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
28:05
SPEAKER_00: So uh for that, I'm gonna give cinematography on this one a uh 4.5.
28:12
SPEAKER_00: Like it looked really good.
28:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
28:15
SPEAKER_02: And you know what you were saying about the reality bending just off-screen, uh, it reminds me of the scene where she goes into the tunnel, uh, the play place tunnel, and then turns around, and then the tunnel is extending behind her for infinity.
28:31
SPEAKER_02: And um yeah, yeah, just good stuff.
28:35
SPEAKER_02: And and then he I I also love when she's when there's like some representation of her.
28:39
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if it's other mommy or something, I guess, like putting up an illusion of her behind the post, and the dad comes around the post and she's like cut in half.
28:48
SPEAKER_02: Like she was it was for his for for his line of sight, was what it was what was there for.
28:55
SPEAKER_02: Um that's a cool touch.
28:58
SPEAKER_02: That's a really cool touch.
29:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like no, and to know like you were so targeted by this mimic essentially, that it didn't even bother to buffer the rest of it.
29:13
SPEAKER_00: It just knew you're standing right there.
29:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
29:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so uh yeah, cinematography.
29:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm gonna give it a I'll give it 4.5.
29:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
29:24
SPEAKER_03: Nice.
29:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
29:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
29:26
SPEAKER_00: Um, score, uh don't remember anything.
29:31
SPEAKER_00: You know, except for the mommy theme song, which honestly to me sounded a lot like Rocky II.
29:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
29:39
SPEAKER_03: And so mommy.
29:43
SPEAKER_00: Mommy, mommy.
29:45
SPEAKER_00: It was bizarre, it was off put.
29:50
SPEAKER_00: For that, I uh score, yeah.
29:53
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna give it a three.
29:54
SPEAKER_00: It never Jurassic worlded me out of it.
29:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
29:58
SPEAKER_00: Um, but it was very competent, so you just you get your three.
30:02
SPEAKER_00: Plot.
30:03
SPEAKER_00: Um there was a lot there, you know, obviously were were, you know, the whole concept that that children see more than I wouldn't say it's like children see more than you think they do, because I feel like a lot of it was willful ignorance of what she was aware of.
30:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
30:25
SPEAKER_00: But but there are a lot of different elements to this.
30:31
SPEAKER_00: And I also feel like the father sort of got a pass because he was just allowing himself to be victimized.
30:39
SPEAKER_00: Um, we don't really talk about how, like, because you can't show up for yourself, you're neglecting your daughter as well, and just allowing her to suffer in this situation.
30:50
SPEAKER_00: And I felt that that some of these sort of threads out there weren't really pulled to their fullest.
30:58
SPEAKER_00: And so the lessons sort of fell a little flat for me.
31:02
SPEAKER_00: And it just sort of kind of wound up being you have to be honest.
31:06
SPEAKER_00: And it's like, well, there's a there's a lot here.
31:08
SPEAKER_00: There's a lot here.
31:10
SPEAKER_02: I don't think that was the lesson.
31:13
SPEAKER_02: I don't think that was the lesson, but we can get to it in uh in Golden Path if you'd like.
31:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
31:19
SPEAKER_00: But it felt like the lesson fell flat when there was a lot of threads.
31:22
SPEAKER_00: I felt that they didn't pull all the way.
31:26
SPEAKER_00: But uh otherwise, um it was well done.
31:30
SPEAKER_00: It was a very nice use of suspense and you know rising action, and they sort of faked us out when we thought that we might be coming to a resolution.
31:40
SPEAKER_00: Some decent callbacks.
31:43
SPEAKER_00: So I'll give plot on this one a 3.5.
31:47
SPEAKER_00: And rewatchability, I I would like to watch it again.
31:50
SPEAKER_00: I I don't know.
31:52
SPEAKER_00: Because like normally we fall under the the average critic.
32:02
SPEAKER_00: And uh in this one, all of a sudden, I feel like we're gonna be much higher than the average critic.
32:06
SPEAKER_00: So I would like to watch it.
32:07
SPEAKER_00: Um, we do owe that to the fans to make sure that we are, you know, you know, sharply honed knives of cinema critique.
32:21
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes critics are up their own ass, so yeah, yeah, which we never are and never will be and never can be.
32:28
SPEAKER_02: Our asses are tight.
32:29
SPEAKER_02: Put coal in there and get a diamond.
32:32
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
32:32
SPEAKER_00: Can't fit up there, and and we're never wrong.
32:36
SPEAKER_00: So I would like to watch it once or twice more just to prove to myself that I'm never wrong.
32:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
32:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it's everyone else who's wrong.
32:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then I would just like to watch it again because I enjoyed the experience.
32:50
SPEAKER_00: It was a good time.
32:51
SPEAKER_00: Um, especially right now, it's October.
32:53
SPEAKER_00: I've been watching non-stop horror films.
32:56
SPEAKER_00: I like watching horror films, they comfort me.
33:00
SPEAKER_00: And uh, so yeah, I'm definitely gonna watch this one again.
33:03
SPEAKER_00: Uh, so I'm gonna give rewatchability on this guy.
33:06
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna give it a three.
33:08
SPEAKER_02: All right.
33:10
SPEAKER_02: Calculating.
33:12
SPEAKER_02: Well, so it is 3.75, which does that round up or down?
33:22
SPEAKER_02: Is that up?
33:24
SPEAKER_00: I think it's just 3.75 if it if it lands.
33:27
SPEAKER_02: Well, we only go by 0.5s and we usually round up or down.
33:32
SPEAKER_02: 3.75 is right in the middle of those.
33:35
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if it's a down or an up.
33:43
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
33:44
SPEAKER_02: Um it exists in a warp in time and space, in a liminal space of alternate reality.
33:55
SPEAKER_02: 3.75 is acceptable.
33:58
SPEAKER_00: At a 3.75.
34:01
SPEAKER_00: So congratulations, other mommy, for bending our own scores.
34:08
SPEAKER_00: Pour this up.
34:10
SPEAKER_00: Ah, lovely.
34:13
SPEAKER_00: Look at them little bubbles bounce.
34:15
SPEAKER_00: Here is two other mommy, and you're 3.75.
34:20
SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
34:23
SPEAKER_00: It's the first time that's ever happened.
34:25
SPEAKER_00: Solid score.
34:25
SPEAKER_02: Also very first time it's ever been right on it.
34:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
34:29
SPEAKER_00: Sounds very fair.
34:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I wouldn't call it a four.
34:33
SPEAKER_02: I'd say it's really good.
34:34
SPEAKER_02: But I don't want to move it over.
34:38
SPEAKER_00: I like that.
34:39
SPEAKER_00: I like that.
34:39
SPEAKER_00: I'm good with it.
34:40
SPEAKER_00: I'm good with it.
34:42
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
34:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
34:44
SPEAKER_00: All right.
34:44
SPEAKER_00: Well, good on you, other mummy.
34:47
SPEAKER_00: So let's it's time now to dive onto the golden path.
34:52
SPEAKER_00: We've already had our extra drink, so we're ready to go.
34:56
SPEAKER_00: So, deeper meanings of this film.
34:58
SPEAKER_00: What do we got?
34:59
SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, for me, first off, like, I I felt a lot of times the father got a pass, and it's like, dude, you're not showing up for yourself.
35:08
SPEAKER_00: Like, the this whole it it's coming like a little pathetic.
35:14
SPEAKER_00: But for some reason, I felt like the story didn't want me to feel that way.
35:19
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I disagree.
35:21
SPEAKER_02: I felt like they purposefully made him look pathetic, or certainly that was the way he was being perceived.
35:28
SPEAKER_02: As someone who has had to look for work multiple times, that shit's tough.
35:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:33
SPEAKER_02: Uh, and and definitely you're perceived as being pathetic.
35:37
SPEAKER_02: It that's a very normal thing to perceive someone who's out of work as is pathetic.
35:41
SPEAKER_02: And it's certainly kind of the uh the perception, it's what you're supposed to suppose the perception of Jessica Chastain is of her husband.
35:52
SPEAKER_02: Uh in my opinion.
35:53
SPEAKER_02: That's what I got.
35:54
SPEAKER_02: You see, you seem to have not have gotten that the same way.
35:58
SPEAKER_00: Well, I I felt just like it he was aware that the affair was going on.
36:04
SPEAKER_02: I don't think there was an affair going on.
36:06
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I thought it was very clear there was an affair going on.
36:08
SPEAKER_00: They they she had codes.
36:12
SPEAKER_02: I think it was a I think it was a misperceiving by the child.
36:18
SPEAKER_02: You're supposed to see it from the child's point of view.
36:21
SPEAKER_00: And it was like there's too much stuff that was outside the child's point of view.
36:25
SPEAKER_00: She knew this guy's codes.
36:27
SPEAKER_00: She came back and found mom's earrings in boyfriend's house, and um both of them had an opportunity to sort of like spill it at that point.
36:39
SPEAKER_00: Jessica even tried to at one point.
36:41
SPEAKER_00: I thought it was abundantly clear that she'd been this guy.
36:45
SPEAKER_02: And I wasn't sure if that's the secret she was trying to spill at that point.
36:51
SPEAKER_02: But I thought that that was I thought the secret she was trying to spill was to her, it was about about Bella, about sharing the secret with Bella about her parentage.
37:02
SPEAKER_02: I thought it was all a mystery.
37:05
SPEAKER_00: I think it was there too.
37:06
SPEAKER_00: Like I those things were there, but I definitely like as sure as the day is long, she was definitely having sex with that guy.
37:17
SPEAKER_00: Because he was even trying to groom Bella, getting her ready for a switch.
37:25
SPEAKER_00: You know, and like that, that's the kind of like, and I I've seen that.
37:28
SPEAKER_00: I I've seen that many times with you know single parents and things like that.
37:33
SPEAKER_00: Me, myself, I was with a single parent for a while.
37:38
SPEAKER_00: But I felt like he was definitely getting cheated on.
37:41
SPEAKER_00: He was aware of it, but he kept like looking away because of his lack of self-esteem, and he wasn't showing up for himself.
37:52
SPEAKER_00: And and he was abusive to Bella as well in this level of neglect.
37:58
SPEAKER_00: You know, showing up and being the soft, lovable parent who's not fucking up, but not fixing it at the same time is just manipulation.
38:09
SPEAKER_02: That's an interesting idea.
38:11
SPEAKER_02: So we learned that Jessica Chastain cheated on her former husband with Daddo.
38:24
unknown: Uh-huh.
38:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
38:25
SPEAKER_02: And uh Bella isn't Daddo's kid, but Daddo stayed with Jessica Chastain.
38:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:35
SPEAKER_02: And he was happy to have the chance to be a father, and Jessica Chastain didn't want to be a mother.
38:43
unknown: Uh-huh.
38:43
SPEAKER_02: So it seems clear so so if if it's true that she was having an affair and she was cheating on him, maybe he didn't really care.
38:52
SPEAKER_02: You know, maybe he didn't really care.
38:55
SPEAKER_02: She didn't really want to have a kid and didn't care about Bella.
38:59
SPEAKER_02: And he cared way more about Bella and being there for her than about Jessica Chastain and her affair.
39:09
SPEAKER_02: I think that's a possibility, and I don't know if that's a failure on his part, you know, to not address it openly or anything.
39:17
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if that's a failure on his part.
39:19
SPEAKER_02: I d see, I think so.
39:22
SPEAKER_02: Europeans get to cheat.
39:23
SPEAKER_02: Europeans get to fuck their coworkers, and nobody has to talk about it, and it also doesn't destroy their families.
39:30
SPEAKER_02: And it's uh it's kind of a uh if if that's the arrangement that's okay, and it doesn't cause any issues.
39:40
SPEAKER_00: But that clearly wasn't the situation because it was all she was hiding it.
39:45
SPEAKER_00: It all kind of came out in these sudden bursts.
39:49
SPEAKER_00: So if it's an open situation, she's like, hey, I don't respect you, I'm a fuck this guy.
39:55
SPEAKER_00: And he's like, I don't respect me either.
39:57
SPEAKER_00: That's cool.
39:59
SPEAKER_00: Then cool.
40:00
SPEAKER_00: That's the discussion you guys.
40:01
SPEAKER_02: But that's a very possessive thing.
40:03
SPEAKER_02: Some people actually don't care.
40:05
SPEAKER_02: It's not about not respecting yourself.
40:07
SPEAKER_02: You have to have the perspective that your partner cheating on you is a violation of you, or being with another person is a violation of you.
40:17
SPEAKER_02: And if you don't have the perspective, it doesn't mean you don't value, respect yourself or whatever.
40:22
SPEAKER_00: But that was not the perspective I saw here because when the secrets were coming out and when hints were dropped in the room, it caused obvious friction.
40:33
SPEAKER_00: Like it so it to me it was clearly not discussed, and it was clearly secretive and betrayal.
40:40
SPEAKER_00: And and that's what I'm saying.
40:42
SPEAKER_02: This actually takes us to the part that you were talking about before about the lesson was like always tell the truth, which I don't think it was that.
40:49
SPEAKER_02: You know, I think that's what you got from this, which was you know, people should be telling the truth.
40:55
SPEAKER_02: If they were telling the truth with each other, and at the end where where they confess, you know, all this stuff about the the former relationship.
41:04
SPEAKER_00: I felt like what they were trying to put at more was more of a not necessarily the truth, but healthier communication.
41:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you should have healthy communication.
41:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that is true.
41:16
SPEAKER_02: But healthy communication doesn't always mean telling the truth, and they kind of do that at the end, where uh Bella's like, no, I'm actually a liar like them.
41:28
SPEAKER_02: And uh and at the end, when the mom's like, you know, what are you gonna tell well Bella's like to her mom, what are you gonna tell people about your zipper?
41:35
SPEAKER_02: And she's like, Oh, I guess I'll have to make something up, and and Bella kind of accepts that, you know, where it's like, and you hear her little voice over about her story and stuff.
41:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so so communication and knowing the boundaries in communication and being more aware of perception and being perceived.
41:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah because because I think that's I think that's the kind of the two the two nature uh dynamic of this movie.
42:05
SPEAKER_02: That's what this other mommy uh this whole other mommy conflict is about, is Bella knows how to perceive, but not understanding what being perceived means.
42:17
SPEAKER_02: And she eventually learns how what it means to be perceived and the nuances that go along with it, and she takes control of that.
42:26
SPEAKER_02: Other mommy is is her being perceived without any kind of understanding and nuance, and it's wild, you know?
42:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
42:36
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, so I think that's probably the deeper meaning in my mind of the movie.
42:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
42:41
SPEAKER_00: No, and that's there.
42:42
SPEAKER_00: Just one of the issues I had with it was the parents themselves only do the one thing, like explaining that, hey, Dado's not your biological father.
42:57
SPEAKER_00: That's the only other thing.
42:58
SPEAKER_00: The affair is wrapped up when the uh the guy is eviscerated and Daddo says, No, I don't want to talk about it.
43:07
SPEAKER_00: Spaghettified.
43:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's spaghettified, and Dado says, I don't want to talk about it and shuts it down.
43:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
43:13
SPEAKER_00: Uh just like everything like that is just sort of wrapped up for them, and the only thing they wind up doing is explaining finally that hey, he's not your biological father.
43:23
SPEAKER_00: And that's clearly what's on Bella's mind because she's perceiving it, but she doesn't really understand it.
43:30
SPEAKER_00: And that gives her the strength now to start untangling some of these things.
43:33
SPEAKER_00: But it doesn't go into the fact that, like, hey, it wasn't just the fact that you didn't tell her about this.
43:40
SPEAKER_00: Your guy's general behavior is very toxic and very unhealthy for a child.
43:47
SPEAKER_00: And I don't know if they're gonna like go over that in Other Mommy 2, um, if that's the plan.
43:54
SPEAKER_00: But uh it's like I was just saying earlier on like there were threads to this that they didn't pull all the way through.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: Um, and that's kind of where this movie grates with me just a little bit inside that kind of situation there.
44:09
SPEAKER_00: And I would have liked to have seen a little more wrapping up of those threads.
44:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
44:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I uh yeah, it didn't hit me as badly.
44:21
SPEAKER_02: Uh I can see how you'd feel that way, where it's like, okay, they did one time under extreme duress.
44:27
SPEAKER_02: Uh, they changed the way they communicate.
44:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:31
SPEAKER_02: But I guess several times throughout the movie, you know, there are these blow-ups when there's so much friction.
44:36
SPEAKER_02: Like that's when other mommy comes out, or like these explosions of like, you know, the friction builds and builds and builds, and then other mommy pops out.
44:47
SPEAKER_02: And uh yeah, I don't know.
44:51
SPEAKER_02: I guess you have to assume their communication styles got better after.
44:55
SPEAKER_02: That that's what they want you to think is that their communication styles got better in the end.
44:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but not perfectly.
45:01
SPEAKER_00: We didn't see that kind of look at the end.
45:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:03
SPEAKER_00: Well, so every movie that we see, I also have this sort of uh a lens that gets put over my my eyes for it because sitting next to me, doctorate in you know therapy and counseling and things like that.
45:15
SPEAKER_00: So throughout any of these movies we watch, I'll hear like that is so unhealthy.
45:20
SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, that is so toxic.
45:23
SPEAKER_00: And uh there's just always in these movies, sitting next to me is a doctor who will not let me forget all what all these people are doing wrong.
45:34
SPEAKER_00: So I'll always walk out of there with sort of that on there as well.
45:37
SPEAKER_00: And in this one, there was a lot.
45:40
SPEAKER_00: There was a lot.
45:41
SPEAKER_02: This movie was entirely about bad coping mechanisms.
45:45
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
45:46
SPEAKER_00: And so it was it was sending, you know, m my doctor into uh, you know, a fucking fit.
45:56
SPEAKER_00: And that's funny.
45:57
SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh, and uh, you know, I it adds some flavor to the way we review these things.
46:02
SPEAKER_00: Good times, good times.
46:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
46:06
SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to think, is there anything else for deeper meanings?
46:10
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
46:11
SPEAKER_00: Well, I I thought it was it was perfect.
46:14
SPEAKER_00: Did you wait for the end of the credits?
46:17
SPEAKER_00: Uh no.
46:18
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
46:18
SPEAKER_00: At the end of the credits, uh Professor Xavier showed up and uh he took Bella.
46:25
SPEAKER_02: She is psychokinetic.
46:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's Dark Phoenix.
46:29
SPEAKER_00: He took Bella, um, the home for gifted youngsters, and uh, we'll be seeing her in Avengers Doomsday.
46:36
SPEAKER_00: So that's gonna be pretty cool.
46:37
SPEAKER_02: I think that that was the plot for New Mutants.
46:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
46:42
SPEAKER_02: I never actually watched the movie, but I think that was the plot for new mutants because there was a psychokinetic girl who was haunting the school, right?
46:51
SPEAKER_00: Pretty much.
46:52
SPEAKER_00: It was so forgettable.
46:53
SPEAKER_00: It was so forgettable.
46:55
SPEAKER_00: Um I if I do rem that was the one with uh Anna Taylor Joy, right?
47:00
SPEAKER_02: No, I think it was Maisie Williams.
47:02
SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, Maisie Williams was in it, but yeah, Anya Taylor Joy, she Oh, she's in it too.
47:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she was in it as a really cool mutant.
47:14
SPEAKER_00: I I'm trying to remember real quick.
47:16
SPEAKER_02: Well, maybe I'll have to watch the movie at some point.
47:18
SPEAKER_02: I just heard about it.
47:20
SPEAKER_00: Like it was worth one watch, not two.
47:24
SPEAKER_00: But I'm just trying to remember, god damn it, that was gonna drive me fucking crazy.
47:28
SPEAKER_00: Cause young Native American, this, this, that, DNA mutations.
47:35
unknown: Fuck.
47:36
SPEAKER_00: I lost it.
47:37
SPEAKER_00: But anyway, she plays a very um esoteric, uh less player Stiliana Rasputin.
47:44
SPEAKER_00: Who's really powerful and really cool?
47:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, it was cool just to see um her show up in um a movie.
47:52
SPEAKER_00: So I I enjoyed that aspect of it.
47:55
SPEAKER_00: The movie itself was like meh meh.
47:57
SPEAKER_02: Because her aliases are Archimage, Light Child, Magic, the Dark Child.
48:03
SPEAKER_00: Matt, yeah.
48:04
SPEAKER_00: And she's she's really cool, but you don't see her a lot.
48:07
SPEAKER_00: She's very powerful.
48:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, but X-Men are pretty much the only thing left in Marvel that I enjoy.
48:14
SPEAKER_00: So uh I always enjoy a little bit of X-Men action.
48:17
SPEAKER_00: Um and so it was really cool seeing Professor Xavier show up at the end of this, you know, take him, take her under his wing.
48:24
SPEAKER_00: So I'm excited to see that in the next X-Men outing.
48:30
SPEAKER_00: And then he was ripped apart by Other Mommy, so that was also pretty wild.
48:34
SPEAKER_00: Now that being said, it's time to insert ourselves into the film.
48:40
SPEAKER_00: How does other mommy change with the introduction of you?
48:50
SPEAKER_00: That one's so hard.
48:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like so.
48:54
SPEAKER_00: Let's say that you were dealing with other mommy, like what would you do?
48:58
SPEAKER_00: How would you handle this?
49:01
SPEAKER_02: If I was dealing with other mommy, and I knew that let's see, by the time well, so I would be the dad.
49:14
SPEAKER_02: I would be the I would be an unemployed dad who really loved having a kid.
49:17
SPEAKER_02: That's for sure.
49:18
SPEAKER_02: That's right in my zone.
49:21
SPEAKER_02: Straight lane all the way.
49:23
SPEAKER_02: I would for sure be the dad.
49:26
SPEAKER_02: And damn, I'd get me some of that Jessica Chastain.
49:30
SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't let that dude let Frank fuck around.
49:36
SPEAKER_02: Um but um I uh he already smoked weed that one time.
49:44
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
49:44
SPEAKER_02: So so we know he's got we know I've got weed in the house.
49:48
SPEAKER_02: That the first time that we start to learn that other mommy is like coming after her, and like I think probably the time that Jessica Chastain, like when she sees other mommy, and other mommy drops Bella from like the ceiling in her room, I'd be like, okay.
50:12
SPEAKER_02: We learn that she's that she that she needs Bella to accept Other Mommy into her heart.
50:18
SPEAKER_02: All right, Bella knocking you out with with with drugs.
50:24
SPEAKER_00: See if people that'd be one way to find out like, does other mommy stop when she's unconscious?
50:30
SPEAKER_00: That's uh that's that's what I'm saying.
50:33
SPEAKER_02: That's for science.
50:34
SPEAKER_02: It's for science.
50:35
SPEAKER_02: And also, she can't accept anything if she's unconscious.
50:41
SPEAKER_02: She can't she can't agree to anything, she can't consent.
50:45
SPEAKER_00: And other mommy was clearly concerned about consent.
50:50
SPEAKER_00: She was.
50:51
SPEAKER_02: She was absolutely she was actually literally the only thing she cared about.
50:55
SPEAKER_00: See, that's another reason why I think it was a change link, because the bane was I need your permission, I need your consent.
51:03
SPEAKER_02: I think it was because it came from within Bella's that is that she need she was like, I have to make a decision to be this person or not.
51:13
SPEAKER_02: Uh, which is also because it looked just like her at the end, but that was kind of my this part of me versus this part of me, my reflection versus me.
51:22
SPEAKER_02: Uh it's kind of like the witch.
51:25
SPEAKER_02: Are you gonna be a bad witch or a good witch kind of thing?
51:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
51:28
SPEAKER_00: Uh the that the Sabrina.
51:29
SPEAKER_00: She did have kind of a Sabrina look to her, too.
51:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
51:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:33
SPEAKER_02: Uh but yeah, so I'd knock her out, and then we would um God, what would we do?
51:41
SPEAKER_02: How would we even get to this point?
51:43
SPEAKER_02: Because I'm a better communicator.
51:44
SPEAKER_02: I have to assume I don't have my medication.
51:46
SPEAKER_02: So I'm so I'm not doing a good job.
51:50
SPEAKER_02: Um after we get okay, so then when she wakes up, be like, okay, didn't do anything.
51:58
SPEAKER_02: So now we have to get other mommy high.
52:01
SPEAKER_02: We have to we have to figure out how to get other mommy high.
52:03
SPEAKER_02: So we're gonna lure, we're gonna use Bella to lure other mommy into a hotbox.
52:08
SPEAKER_02: And Bella'll have a little like rebreather on so she doesn't get high, but other mommy will get completely fucked.
52:15
SPEAKER_02: And we're just gonna we're just gonna talk it through with other mommy.
52:18
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna talk it through.
52:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we're gonna talk it through.
52:20
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna see how it goes.
52:24
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
52:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for me.
52:26
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna try to negotiate.
52:28
SPEAKER_00: Gonna negotiate with other mommy.
52:32
SPEAKER_00: For me, uh, I'm gonna I'm gonna put myself in the father's position as well.
52:39
SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna learn of the affair, and I am immediately going to because obviously she's the one with the most spending power, um, but I'm going to take Jessica Chastain for everything I can.
52:54
SPEAKER_00: I am like, are are you shitting me?
52:57
SPEAKER_00: Uh the the thing, like I I stepped in, I uh became a father to my non-biological child, and you're gonna cheat on me.
53:06
SPEAKER_00: Are you shitting me?
53:07
SPEAKER_00: Um, so oh, I'm gonna be the most vinous.
53:11
SPEAKER_02: You wanted that, you wanted that child, not me.
53:14
SPEAKER_02: I wanted to get an abortion.
53:15
SPEAKER_02: I see that right and she says that right in front of the kid.
53:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm like, Jesus Christ.
53:21
SPEAKER_00: See, you're an evil woman.
53:23
SPEAKER_00: And I that that is going to fuel me.
53:27
SPEAKER_00: I am going to be the ex from hell as I just take everything.
53:34
SPEAKER_00: She can have the kid.
53:35
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna fight her on the kid, but I am going to She doesn't want the kid.
53:39
SPEAKER_02: You have to take the kid.
53:41
SPEAKER_00: I don't have to do shit.
53:43
SPEAKER_00: All right, there's no adoption papers filed.
53:46
SPEAKER_02: She is definitely letting other mommy in.
53:49
SPEAKER_02: She's she's immediately letting other mommy in.
53:56
SPEAKER_00: She sees Daddo take mom to court.
54:00
SPEAKER_00: Like, you can have the kids.
54:01
SPEAKER_00: I won't even fight you.
54:03
SPEAKER_00: Oh, you're not gonna fight.
54:04
SPEAKER_00: Well, I didn't adopt it, whatever.
54:06
SPEAKER_00: Um, and uh I'm putting I'm putting Jessica Chastain in a car in a fucking Walmart parking lot.
54:15
SPEAKER_00: I'm taking the house.
54:17
SPEAKER_00: I'm going all in.
54:18
SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm getting pictures of the affair, I'm doing all those sorts of things.
54:23
SPEAKER_02: You I I've seen you teleport our child around the house.
54:29
SPEAKER_03: Stay out.
54:30
SPEAKER_00: She's done.
54:31
SPEAKER_00: Jessica is done.
54:34
SPEAKER_00: And then uh, you know, if I do meet other mommy, I'll try and make the deal for myself.
54:38
SPEAKER_00: Because I'd like to see where that I would like to see where that road lies.
54:41
SPEAKER_00: Um because I am still convinced that it's a fee creature.
54:45
SPEAKER_00: So I'll be taken off.
54:46
SPEAKER_00: And so as the divorce is wrapping up, which could take some time, I'm going to be taken by the Faye, dragged off into the Fey wilds.
54:54
SPEAKER_00: Uh they'll turn me into a lamp or something, and I'll escape one day in time to wrap up the divorce proceedings, but I'll come back with sweet fucking fey powers.
55:04
SPEAKER_00: So it's just uh it's just a win all around, you know.
55:07
SPEAKER_00: You know, they they uh they used me as like a lamp, and now I could light shit on fire.
55:13
SPEAKER_00: So uh I'm gonna be uh I'm gonna come back and uh and then Professor X is gonna pick me up and uh it's gonna be great.
55:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
55:23
SPEAKER_00: So look out for me in Avengers Doomsday.
55:28
SPEAKER_00: A drunk guy lighting everything on fire.
55:30
SPEAKER_00: Just a drunk dude lighting shit on fire.
55:32
SPEAKER_00: Um it's gonna be sweet.
55:34
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be sweet.
55:36
SPEAKER_02: They call me Molotov.
55:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's gonna be awesome.
55:42
SPEAKER_02: So they call me flaming Sambuka.
55:46
SPEAKER_00: Oh, you got some book?
55:51
SPEAKER_00: No Sambuka, you must focus.
55:53
SPEAKER_00: I don't have to do shit.
55:55
SPEAKER_00: All right, you sound like my ex-wife.
55:58
SPEAKER_00: All right.
55:59
SPEAKER_02: Um we have any whole coffee beans.
56:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so uh yeah, I'm just gonna become uh Jessica Chastain's problem as well as the entire Marvel universe's problem.
56:12
SPEAKER_00: Ask me about the kid.
56:13
SPEAKER_00: I have no idea.
56:14
SPEAKER_00: Last I heard she uh was in a nice foster system, um, but I never really looked into it.
56:21
SPEAKER_00: You know.
56:23
unknown: Yeah.
56:25
SPEAKER_00: I can only tell you so much.
56:26
SPEAKER_00: Uh and that's what I do.
56:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
56:29
SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
56:30
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
56:30
SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
56:32
SPEAKER_00: So there you have it, folks.
56:33
SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm your host, Brian Barronorth, with me as always, James Crosslin.
56:38
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, look out for us in Avengers Doomsday.
56:44
SPEAKER_00: I'll be an unemployed stoner.
56:49
SPEAKER_00: Which um Marvel seems to keep kind of bringing in.
56:54
SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
56:55
SPEAKER_02: They want the that's the self insert from the writers.
56:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
57:00
SPEAKER_00: Unemployed stoner.
57:02
SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
57:03
SPEAKER_00: Bye, everybody.
57:05
SPEAKER_00: Bye.