Ep. 832: Osceola, Native American Slavery, and The Seminole Wars

The MeatEater Podcast · Feb 9, 2026 · 1h 53m · transcript

Steven Rinella talks with author Jamie Holmes, Randall Williams, Brody Henderson, Phil Taylor, and Corinne Schneider.

Topics discussed: Jamie's new book, The Free and the Dead: The Untold Story of the Black Seminole Chief, the Indigenous Rebel, and America's Forgotten War is out; deep archival research like a treasure hunt; the evidence base and when the notes section of the book is almost as long as the book itself; the complexity of stories about the Seminole Wars; turning what you know on its head; the environment of interior Florida; what enslavement meant to the tribes; who were the…