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AMERICA'S WORST COOKS REALITY STAR BEATS 3-YEAR-OLD daughter dead. Family of little Tory Rose TALKS TO NANCY . · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Do you love the Food Network? Because I do. I
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Speaker 1: could watch it all day long. I look at all
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Speaker 1: of the contestants on various food programs, the best Chef,
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Speaker 1: the Junior Chef. My children love it, especially my daughter Lucy,
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Speaker 1: who was quite a chef herself. So it was quite
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Speaker 1: a surprise when I learned that the winner of the
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Speaker 1: quote Worst Cooks in America is charged with murder, not
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Speaker 1: just murder, but murder of a beautiful three year old
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Speaker 1: little girl, Victoria, that she the Worst cook in America winner,
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Speaker 1: had taken in to her home as a foster child.
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Speaker 1: This little girl was covered heard in deep purple bruises
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Speaker 1: all over her body. I don't know why so many
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Speaker 1: of us are lulled into a false sense of complacency
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Speaker 1: or familiarity with people we see on TV. Who are
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Speaker 1: these people? Who is this woman? Let's start with a
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Speaker 1: nine one one call or coming number one with fullcasting.
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Speaker 1: The emergency you have with emergency, our daughter is not
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Speaker 1: it's a responses. He's bring a lot of waters in.
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Speaker 1: It's darting out what addressing that? And we'll get you
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Speaker 1: over to MS. I am asking fire. What's the address
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Speaker 1: of your emergency? Okay? And the front of your called
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Speaker 1: me from is anyone there to be a positive for
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Speaker 1: COVID nineteen or had irish exposure to COVID nineteen positive patient? No,
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Speaker 1: tell me exactly ald water right now? Your three year
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Speaker 1: old daughter is what choken old water? Right now? We
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Speaker 1: know immediately, Okay, we can't help on the way. Okay,
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Speaker 1: um she is So is she coughing like choking or water?
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Speaker 1: She's not coughing, but she's choking on water. Wow, I've
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Speaker 1: never heard of your body being totally covered in deep
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Speaker 1: purple bruises from choking on water. But yet in the
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Speaker 1: same breath, he says, no, she's not choking, that she
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Speaker 1: is unresponsive because she quote drank a lot of water.
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Speaker 1: Then she's suddenly choking on water, but yet she is
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Speaker 1: not coughing. Okay, I would have a field day with that. Hell. Hell,
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Speaker 1: fifty three seconds of b BS that NIMO one call
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Speaker 1: is a lie. I mean, just the first seconds of it.
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Speaker 1: You can tell that's a lie again, I Meanancy Grace,
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Speaker 1: this is crime stories, and I want answers to what
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Speaker 1: happened to a three year old little girl this family
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Speaker 1: insisted they bring into her home to quote complete their
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Speaker 1: family now she's dead, and I guarantee you it is
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Speaker 1: not because she drank too much water. With me an
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Speaker 1: all star panel to try to make sense of it.
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Speaker 1: First of all, Crime Online dot com investigative reporter, also
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Speaker 1: with Crime and Scandal, True Crime podcast, Levi Page. Daphne Young,
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Speaker 1: a special guest joining us, the national Chief Communications Officer
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Speaker 1: at Child Help Organization. Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, author
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Speaker 1: of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, Death investigator Joseph
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Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, Doctor Jen Mann, marriage family therapist host on
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Speaker 1: VH one, The Doctor Jen Show on Sirius XM. Author
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Speaker 1: of The Relationship Fixed on Amazon. Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor,
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Speaker 1: author of Red Flags on Amazon. Host of Today with
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Speaker 1: Doctor Wendy on CASEYBQ, and very special guests joining us.
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Speaker 1: Michelle Earps, This is little Victoria's aunt and you can
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Speaker 1: find her at Change dot org slash Justice for Victoria,
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Speaker 1: and you can say that again to Michelle Earps, this
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Speaker 1: is Victoria's aunt, Miss Earps. How did you learn that
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Speaker 1: this beautiful little girl, just always this big, beautiful smile,
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Speaker 1: was dead. We found out on January the nineteenth, when
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Speaker 1: the Robinson's had been rested. It was five days after
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Speaker 1: Victoria's death when we found out, because the news story
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Speaker 1: broke and people that knew us were sending us messages
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Speaker 1: and asking, hey, is this your Victoria? So you found
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Speaker 1: out five days after she was dead. Yes, ma'am, when
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Speaker 1: you first learned this three year old little girl was dead,
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Speaker 1: did you know how she died? Based off of the
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Speaker 1: news stories, we got a pretty good idea. It wasn't
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Speaker 1: until we started getting more into this. I'm confused about something,
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Speaker 1: Daphnie Young, National chief Communications Officer with Childhelp dot Org.
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Speaker 1: When you put a child, a helpless little baby girl
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Speaker 1: like this in a foster home, what nobody goes by
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Speaker 1: to check and see what's happening? Did nobody notice the
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Speaker 1: child was being mistreated and covered in bruises by the
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Speaker 1: worst cook in America winner. This is one of my
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Speaker 1: first concerns when I heard about this story, because we
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Speaker 1: have a rigorous process that involves teachers and doctors, the
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Speaker 1: foster parents, the biological parents, and a whole host of
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Speaker 1: people who are professionals at Child Help who check in
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Speaker 1: on that child, who look after that child. And when
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Speaker 1: you first look at this case, okay, you've got a
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Speaker 1: reality TV star who was a teacher into charity work
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Speaker 1: and had CPR certification and promoted an equity household and
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Speaker 1: shared the children a dressed U. You're doing so fast, right?
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Speaker 1: What did you say? What's an equity household? Well, she
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Speaker 1: was talking about children of different races living together in harmony.
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Speaker 1: She was talking about the children going to church together.
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Speaker 1: And one of my concerns when I see that, and
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Speaker 1: something that we would have looked at is that social
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Speaker 1: media presence, because we ask our foster parents to keep
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Speaker 1: these kids off of social media. This is not your story,
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Speaker 1: this is their story to tell, and we want them
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Speaker 1: to be safe. Daphne, We've gotten a ton of photos
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Speaker 1: of little Victoria with the quote worst cook in America.
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Speaker 1: Just FYI, if you guys didn't already know this. The
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Speaker 1: show takes twelve to eighteen contestants referred to as recruits,
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Speaker 1: through a culinary boot camp to earn a cash prize.
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Speaker 1: The winner gets fifty thousand dollars. The other contestants apparently
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Speaker 1: there's a twenty five thousand dollars prize. In any event,
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Speaker 1: you're going to get between twenty five and fifty grand
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Speaker 1: from what I can tell, So this is a woman
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Speaker 1: that's been on TV, made it through this whole reality
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Speaker 1: show to get we think twenty five or fifty thousand dollars.
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Speaker 1: And there's tons of pictures of her online with baby Victoria,
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Speaker 1: and they're smiling. And I mean, she looks nothing like
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Speaker 1: she did in her earlier pick because her hair is
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Speaker 1: pulled back very tightly, but she's in all these pictures
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Speaker 1: of them in front of a Christmas tree makes smiles. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, actually, Jack, if you look at this Christmas
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Speaker 1: tree photo, Victoria is not smiling. A lot of the
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Speaker 1: other people are smiling, but Victoria is not smiling. So
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Speaker 1: all this is on Facebook, Daphne, and you're saying they're
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Speaker 1: told not to post. Absolutely, we tell our foster parents
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Speaker 1: these children are in the system. They deserve their privacy,
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Speaker 1: they deserve their own past and their own future, so
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Speaker 1: we ask them to keep them off social media. We
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Speaker 1: have check ins. We have check ins with the child
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Speaker 1: specifically so that there's no other person around when we
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Speaker 1: talked to that child. So what happened between all of
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Speaker 1: this posting and supposed check ins to the sweet little girl,
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Speaker 1: this sweet little Tory Rose Crime Stories with Nancy Grace
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Speaker 1: we're talking about the brutal death of a three year
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Speaker 1: old little girl to get that goes into the home
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Speaker 1: to live with the winner of a reality shows Worst
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Speaker 1: Cooks in America, bringing home a purse of twenty five
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Speaker 1: to fifty thousand, we think. Speaking of the postings, Daphne Young,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw this to Michelle Rps. This is Victoria
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Speaker 1: Roses Aunt. I'm looking at all these postings. She's got
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Speaker 1: bruises on her in these postings. I'm looking at one
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Speaker 1: worse she's got a black eye, a three year old
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Speaker 1: little girl, and another one she's got a bruise on
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Speaker 1: her neck. And I guarantee you, JOSICTT. Morgan is gonna
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Speaker 1: look at this one. I guarantee you're gonna be able
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Speaker 1: to get finger marks on her neck. Did you know this,
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Speaker 1: miss Earps? Did you have any idea about these photos
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Speaker 1: of her online and she's got bruises, visible bruises. No,
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Speaker 1: we did not know anything about those when the last
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Speaker 1: time we saw these children, because it was Victoria and
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Speaker 1: her two brothers that were in this home. Last time
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Speaker 1: we saw them was in February. They were placed in
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Speaker 1: this home for adoption, and it was like you know,
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Speaker 1: a close adoption. There was no contact. We did not
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Speaker 1: know who they were, where they were, or anything. Had
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Speaker 1: we known and seen all this, we would have alerted
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Speaker 1: DSS immediately. Hey, what's going on? The kids have bruises
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Speaker 1: like crazy there. We have pictures posted. She even had
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Speaker 1: them on TV at one point. There's a picture that
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Speaker 1: I have seen that she had on one of her
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Speaker 1: social media's where Victoria was asleep and a TV studio,
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Speaker 1: and she had commented about how everyone thought she was
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Speaker 1: such a good little girl. You know, it just turns
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Speaker 1: my stomach turns, and then go ahead, I'm sorry. There's
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Speaker 1: also one picture of Victoria that you can be a
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Speaker 1: bruise that is all the way around her wrist. It
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Speaker 1: doesn't look like a handprint. It's a very even bruise
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Speaker 1: all the way around her wrist, like maybe she had
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Speaker 1: been restrained at some point. A three year old little girl,
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Speaker 1: tiny tiny little angel straight out to Levi page Crime
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Speaker 1: online dot Com investigative reporter. You can also find him
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Speaker 1: at Crime and Scandal, True crime podcast. LEVI just start
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Speaker 1: at the beginning. How did this monster get ahold of
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Speaker 1: this little girl? She adopted Victoria? I'm sorry, cold ye
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Speaker 1: hold on, wait, adopt. I thought for a moment that
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Speaker 1: this was a foster situation, Daphne Young But will you
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Speaker 1: said adopt? The adoption wasn't set to be finalized. And
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Speaker 1: actually the adoption was to be finalized according to what
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Speaker 1: we heard when we write the bond hearing last week.
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Speaker 1: It was going to be finalized the day that they
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Speaker 1: were arrested. Okay, this is what I want to know,
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Speaker 1: Daphne Young Hood. We just hand out children like there
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Speaker 1: are a dozen eggs at the grocery store here, you
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Speaker 1: can have one, you can have one. And to go
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Speaker 1: through an adoption, isn't that a lot more intensive scrutiny
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Speaker 1: and an intensive process. It's just like they're handing out
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Speaker 1: children to foster care without looking into the home. And
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Speaker 1: I thought they had to go through all sorts of
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Speaker 1: hoops to finally formally adopt a child. And even I
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Speaker 1: can find this on Facebook. I didn't even really look
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Speaker 1: that hard. And here are pictures of her with bruises.
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Speaker 1: They don't look online. Unfortunately, they're supposed to go through
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Speaker 1: lots of hoops. We have a very system at Childholp,
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Speaker 1: but we've actually added extra rules that are just our
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Speaker 1: founders absolutes have nothing to do with the law, including
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Speaker 1: twenty four hour on call support for these children. But
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Speaker 1: this is a situation where it looks like it just
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Speaker 1: passed through screener to screener. There was a double life
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Speaker 1: being led. And so many children are just taken out
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Speaker 1: of a house sometimes for small things like neglect or
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Speaker 1: and that's not small, but in terms of the abuse
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Speaker 1: that they suffered and went through it, and it appears
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Speaker 1: that happened in this home boy, it would have been
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Speaker 1: wonderful to just get the family some great services and
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Speaker 1: support reunification in the case because it was horrifying. It
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Speaker 1: doesn't take a lot to find pictures of this little
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Speaker 1: girl online covered in bruises around her neck, a black eye.
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Speaker 1: I don't think either one of my children they just
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Speaker 1: drink thirteen they have ever had a black eye knock
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Speaker 1: on wood. So how does she have so many bruises online?
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Speaker 1: And d Facts Department Family Children's Service didn't even bought
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Speaker 1: her to look and they're going to adopt these children
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Speaker 1: in and the day of the adoption the parents are
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Speaker 1: arrested for murder. Wow, that's some flawed process. But who
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Speaker 1: is this woman? Who is the quote worst Cook of
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Speaker 1: America that brings home tens of thousands of dollars off
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Speaker 1: a reality show painting an entirely different picture. I'm going
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Speaker 1: to go back to you on that, doctor Jen. Don't
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Speaker 1: let me forget because in these Facebook photos, a lot
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Speaker 1: of them, they're presented as his perfect family oaps. What
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Speaker 1: about the bruises? But I want you to take a
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Speaker 1: listen to Jarvis robertson Fox Carolina. Listen. Aria Robinson says
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Speaker 1: being a competitor on Worst Cooks in America was a
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Speaker 1: confidence booster and also educational experience. She told me earlier today.
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Speaker 1: They did film back in February in New York before
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Speaker 1: the pandemic started. Now she's just happy to be home
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Speaker 1: and her life has changed for the better. But now
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Speaker 1: I truly am not the Worst Cook in America. But
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Speaker 1: she is the winner of Food Network's Worst Cook in
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Speaker 1: America Season twenty. Yes, I am putting Mayo in a
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Speaker 1: glove Aaria Robinson lives in Simpsonville. She's a wife and
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Speaker 1: a mother of five and a big fan of the show.
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Speaker 1: She told me. Through the years, she's been teased by
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Speaker 1: her husband and her sister because of her cooking. After
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Speaker 1: some thought, Robinson decided to submit to become a contestant.
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Speaker 1: You don't have the skin being in this family. Your
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Speaker 1: feelings might be hurt, but well you didn't hurt at all.
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Speaker 1: It was just another day. She describes the experience as
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Speaker 1: a surreal moment for herself, trying something new and exciting
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Speaker 1: but on a grand stage. Well, she's about to try
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Speaker 1: something real and new and exciting behind bars for the
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Speaker 1: rest of her life, if we have anything to do
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Speaker 1: with it. This child covered in bruises. She may no
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Speaker 1: longer be the worst cook in America, but by god,
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Speaker 1: she may be the worst mother in America to stand
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Speaker 1: by and let this happen to her child, or even
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Speaker 1: beat the child herself. How was this child covered in
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Speaker 1: so many bruises? Just got Morgan. Just hearing her voice
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Speaker 1: all happy and jubilant, sitting on that pile of money
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Speaker 1: she got from that reality show is just like nails
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Speaker 1: on a blackboard to me. How badly was this child beaten?
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Speaker 1: Beaten badly? Nancy? As you had mentioned, you know, she's
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Speaker 1: covered in bruises, and these bruises are, in my estimation,
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Speaker 1: not all fresh. This is an ongoing event that has
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Speaker 1: been going on for a while and one of our
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Speaker 1: one of our guests, just a moment ago had mentioned
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Speaker 1: this kind of linear bruise that she had around her
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Speaker 1: ribs plays for all of us that aren't death investigators,
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Speaker 1: that have not been to about ten thousand death scenes,
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Speaker 1: just slow down just a little bit. Jackie's having a
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Speaker 1: really hard time understanding what you're saying. Go ahead, I'm sorry, Jackie, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the you know ours a moment ago and mentioned this
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Speaker 1: bruise around around the wrist that could very well be
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Speaker 1: a restraint mark. But let me throw up something else
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Speaker 1: to you. When you're shook with a belt, many times
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Speaker 1: I've actually seen belts wrap around appendages and it will
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Speaker 1: leave a mark around this area. Now, this is a
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Speaker 1: fragile little girl, Nancy. I mean, she's tiny, diminutive, looks
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Speaker 1: like a little little angel, and you're going to use
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Speaker 1: this kind of force over a protracted period of time.
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Speaker 1: She's going to be suffering physically on a myriad of levels.
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Speaker 1: Here climb stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, I want you
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Speaker 1: to take a listen to Taggart huck at WYF needs
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Speaker 1: for listen. Rio Robinson down with WYF News four in
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Speaker 1: August after winning the Food Network show Worst Cooks in America.
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Speaker 1: She told us then the winnings from the show would
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Speaker 1: go a long way to help her and her husband,
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Speaker 1: who recently adopted three more children. I just know that
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Speaker 1: the Lord had his hands on me and he had
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Speaker 1: a purpose for me to go on there. The former
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Speaker 1: middle school teacher was an aspiring comedian hooked by Justin
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Speaker 1: Williams to perform at a Pickens County barbecue event back
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Speaker 1: in November. She was hilarious, She was super sweet to
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Speaker 1: everybody around her, and she expressed a passion for working
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Speaker 1: with children and working, you know, with just the community
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Speaker 1: in general. Really, because in the day that little three
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Speaker 1: year old Victoria died, Ariel, we're not on a first
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Speaker 1: name basis, twenty nine year old mom Ariel Robinson allegedly
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Speaker 1: beat the three year old little girl with a belt.
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Speaker 1: You know what, I'm against gun violence, but if I
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Speaker 1: caught my husband with a belt on one of my children,
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Speaker 1: there would be a sheet out Like you would not
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Speaker 1: believe a belt on a three year old little girl.
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Speaker 1: Doctor jen Man, you're the family therapist. What is happening? Well,
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Speaker 1: obviously child abuse, and I think that unfortunately in this country,
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Speaker 1: there are a lot of families who feel like it
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Speaker 1: is acceptable or somehow okay or justifiable or discipline to
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Speaker 1: hit their children and hit them with paddles, with belts,
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Speaker 1: with all kinds of things, And it really is a
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Speaker 1: very slippery slow And what we found is that there
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Speaker 1: was a study that was done by the Injury Prevention
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Speaker 1: Research Center. They found the only two percent mothers who
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Speaker 1: didn't spank their children reported physically abusive kinds of punishment,
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Speaker 1: whereas six percent of mothers who said they spank compared
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Speaker 1: to six percent of mothers who said they spank their children.
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Speaker 1: Then when we looked at parents who spanked their children
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Speaker 1: using objects, the odds of the child being abused went
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Speaker 1: up to twelve percent. So it really is like a
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Speaker 1: gateway drug to very serious child abuse. And I think
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Speaker 1: that for far too long in this country, families have
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Speaker 1: found that hitting a child could be a form of
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Speaker 1: discipline and it's not all it does best. His his
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Speaker 1: scenario is scare the child, and that does not teach
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Speaker 1: discipline at harm's cognitive development. All of the studies are
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Speaker 1: showing this. It doesn't teach children to respect, It teaches
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Speaker 1: them to fear, and you run the risk parents get
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Speaker 1: out of control. There's nothing to trigger a parent a child,
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Speaker 1: and parents don't realize their strength. Adrenaline is going and
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Speaker 1: parents do horrible things, and terrible things happened to children
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Speaker 1: where they get injured or even die, you know, to
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Speaker 1: Daphne Young, National Chief Communications Officer, I'm thinking about this
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Speaker 1: three year old girl that was beaten with a belt
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Speaker 1: a belt? Did you hear what doctor jin Man just said, Daphne, absolutely,
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Speaker 1: and not just a belt, but a flip flop, a paddle.
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Speaker 1: And I quote her by adopted father. He said, a
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Speaker 1: flip flop, a belt, a paddle. Whatever that meant, whatever
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Speaker 1: is at hand this child was being abused by. I
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Speaker 1: agree wholeheartedly with both of you. Corporal punishment does nothing
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Speaker 1: but shame a child. They don't teach them anything. But
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Speaker 1: what shocks me is it seems like this poor little
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Speaker 1: girl was just grabbed and beaten with whatever was at
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Speaker 1: hand in a moment of fury. I'm telling you, Wendy Patrick,
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Speaker 1: California prosecutor, author of red Flaps, take a listen to
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Speaker 1: this Our cut twelve A mister Bennett told First two
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Speaker 1: Unders that Tory the drowned by drinking too much water.
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Speaker 1: The firefighters can also see unexplained expensive bruising on her body,
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Speaker 1: deep purple bruising on her abdomen, judge bruising on her ear,
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Speaker 1: abrasions on her face, bruising down her back and up
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Speaker 1: and down boat legs, purple bruising on abdomen, finger, face,
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Speaker 1: back and up and down both legs. Wendy Patrick, what
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Speaker 1: about it? I'll tell you. You know, at first glances,
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Speaker 1: it's you just came to the house and saw this
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Speaker 1: and took the photos and showed them to somebody. They
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Speaker 1: would say, Yep, this is child abuse. This is a
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Speaker 1: pattern of bruising in different stages of healing. You know,
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Speaker 1: Joe Scott said, something that I've seen and you've seen
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Speaker 1: in our cases over the decades, is this pattern of
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Speaker 1: consistency over time, and when the pattern includes literal pattern injuries.
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Speaker 1: By that, I mean marks that are consistent with objects
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Speaker 1: like a belt or god forbid, an iron or something
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Speaker 1: that wraps around and constrains the blood vessels. That would
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Speaker 1: indicate child abuse. But did it in a case like this,
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Speaker 1: I mean this couple, I mean this is not the
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Speaker 1: These are not the axe murderers next door who seemed
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Speaker 1: nice but kept to themselves. I mean, these were public figures.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about reality show stars, not the kind of
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Speaker 1: figures you would expect to be involved in child abuse.
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Speaker 1: So sometimes if injuries are observed in a family that
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Speaker 1: you would never suspect would contain abuse, we start looking
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Speaker 1: for excuses. Well, what else might have happened? And the
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Speaker 1: wherewithal to lie about it? Just got Morgan and Professor
23:46
Speaker 1: forensics Jacksonville State University death investigator to tell nine one
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Speaker 1: one first of all, that she basically drowned because she
23:56
Speaker 1: drank too much water, and then say she was choking
24:01
Speaker 1: because she drank too much water but not coughing. My
24:04
Speaker 1: point is it's inconsistent with the forensic evidence on the
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Speaker 1: child's body. But the wherewithal it took to lie about it, Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's it's obvious physical evidence that's going to present before
24:18
Speaker 1: these medical professionals that show up. You know where the
24:21
Speaker 1: EMTs are getting there. They're thinking, you're saying that she's
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Speaker 1: taken on too much water, But how the world is
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Speaker 1: this child have all these bruises? And let me tell
24:29
Speaker 1: you one more thing here, Nancy. First off, I refused.
24:33
Speaker 1: I don't care what you say to me. I refuse
24:35
Speaker 1: to refer to her as a mother of any kind
24:38
Speaker 1: at this point in time, as far as I'm concerned,
24:40
Speaker 1: this reality show thing that she's got going on. She's
24:42
Speaker 1: a prop master and that's the purpose she was using.
24:45
Speaker 1: This woman had a master's degree in education from Clemson University.
24:49
Speaker 1: Nancy average pay in South Carolina fifty three thousand dollars
24:53
Speaker 1: a year, that doesn't include benefits. Why in the hell
24:56
Speaker 1: is she not employed? That's my question. You know what's
24:59
Speaker 1: going on with the the kids in the house. I
25:01
Speaker 1: think she's setting these kids up, and that's why she
25:03
Speaker 1: can dehumanize them. That's why she can take a flip flop,
25:06
Speaker 1: as the father said, she could take a belt, she
25:09
Speaker 1: can take a wooden spoon. She'd take anything she wants to.
25:12
Speaker 1: And she beat this poor little angel as much as
25:14
Speaker 1: she wants because she doesn't care. The child is a
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Speaker 1: prop for her, so she can abuse her anyway that
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Speaker 1: she wants to. And it's sad this child wound up.
25:22
Speaker 1: I can almost guarantee you with some kind of closed
25:25
Speaker 1: head injury. That's why she started drifting off, Nancy. She
25:28
Speaker 1: probably had a bleed within her brain, and can you
25:32
Speaker 1: imagine suffering this child into her. I mean, she's already
25:35
Speaker 1: away from her family. She's been placed here with these folks,
25:41
Speaker 1: her treating her nothing more like some kind of object.
25:44
Speaker 1: And she dies all alone too. Michelle IRPs, this is
25:49
Speaker 1: a little Victoria Roses biological aunt, Michelle. When you hear
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Speaker 1: the suffering, and you know the day that Victoria Rose,
26:01
Speaker 1: just three years old, was beaten dead, you know that
26:06
Speaker 1: was not the first time this child had to have
26:09
Speaker 1: been living in a house of fear ever since she
26:12
Speaker 1: got put there. Yeah, you could see it in the pictures.
26:17
Speaker 1: Victoria's smile never reached her eyes. And one of the
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Speaker 1: pictures that is posted a lot I absolutely hate is
26:26
Speaker 1: her holding Victoria in her lap and they have a
26:29
Speaker 1: matching clothes and Victoria's leaned away from her. I have
26:33
Speaker 1: a five year old daughter. There is not a single
26:36
Speaker 1: picture of me holding her that she's pulled away from me.
26:39
Speaker 1: She's leaning in. There are pictures of her with my
26:42
Speaker 1: family holding her, and she's leaned in. She was you know,
26:46
Speaker 1: I mean it was awful. And at the bond hearing,
26:50
Speaker 1: because we were there at the courthouse for that and
26:54
Speaker 1: at the bond hearing whenever I was hearing all this
26:57
Speaker 1: and heard that he had come in and told her
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Speaker 1: she had gone too far. She sent him to the
27:04
Speaker 1: store to get stuff to bring down bruising that you
27:07
Speaker 1: can buy over the counter. I didn't even know such
27:09
Speaker 1: a thing existed, but they did. They gave her an
27:11
Speaker 1: EPs and salt bells and everything like that. And the
27:14
Speaker 1: only thing that I could think of it breaks me
27:17
Speaker 1: to this very second, is how long was she suffering
27:23
Speaker 1: before they called for help? How long did she suffer?
27:28
Speaker 1: And if they had called for help right away, would
27:31
Speaker 1: she have made it? So? They actually this woman. The
27:36
Speaker 1: reality star Ariel Robinson says, the husband, thirty four year
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Speaker 1: old Jerry Robinson out to the store to get anti bruising,
27:45
Speaker 1: anti swelling meds to bring down all the bruises on Oh,
27:50
Speaker 1: dear Lord in Heaven, we all certainly the stuff you
27:54
Speaker 1: can buy over the counter for such things. We also
27:57
Speaker 1: know that the quote Worst Cook in America reality show
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Speaker 1: winner claims that Victoria Rose suddenly went limp and she
28:07
Speaker 1: Ariel began the Heimlin maneuver. Ariel also climbs she started
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Speaker 1: pressing on the child's stomach and that that is the
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Speaker 1: reason she had her husband calling nine one one, and
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Speaker 1: that that is the reason the baby is covered in bruises.
28:22
Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut twelve B. Police talk
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Speaker 1: with this defendant to get an account of what Tory's
28:30
Speaker 1: day was like judge on January thirteenth, and then the
28:34
Speaker 1: fourteen meeting up to when this dependent, rather the codependent
28:38
Speaker 1: called nine one one. The defendant told police that the
28:41
Speaker 1: night before Tory had thrown up on the way to church,
28:44
Speaker 1: but then after that they went home, she had no
28:47
Speaker 1: real issues, that she went to sleep. Then the next
28:50
Speaker 1: morning that this defendant says that Tory eight pending while
28:55
Speaker 1: she and her husband. This defendant and her husband were
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Speaker 1: home alone with the child and the other four boys.
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Speaker 1: It's dependent to two other biological children, Tory's brothers. She
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Speaker 1: outlined the police that Tory started as her judge and
29:11
Speaker 1: that the code offending filled up the tubs all the time.
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Speaker 1: That's all a lie. Crime stories With Nancy Grace, we
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Speaker 1: were talking about the brutal beating death. I'm not a
29:34
Speaker 1: medical examiner, but I know that's what this was. Of
29:38
Speaker 1: a three year old little angel girl now dead and
29:44
Speaker 1: the nine one one call you here, daddy, claiming she
29:48
Speaker 1: drank too much water and died. Then you hear him
29:51
Speaker 1: say she was coughing on water. Choking on water but
29:54
Speaker 1: not coughing. It gets worse and worse and worse. You
29:57
Speaker 1: just heard that the so called mother said. The little girl,
30:01
Speaker 1: just three years old, had twelve cups of water which
30:06
Speaker 1: led to her death. But take a listen to what
30:10
Speaker 1: the lead detective has to say our cut thirteen. The
30:14
Speaker 1: lead detective on the scene, investigator Scott mcgauge, began to
30:19
Speaker 1: ask additional questions about the extensive bruising that was all
30:23
Speaker 1: all over Tory's body and asked this defendant how did
30:27
Speaker 1: that get there? As to the abdominal injuries, this defended stated,
30:31
Speaker 1: quote I did that, And then she also said, quote
30:34
Speaker 1: I was pushing really hard. The officer continued to ask
30:38
Speaker 1: about the extensive bruising up and down her back, her
30:41
Speaker 1: body of book legs. Mis Deefendant ben stated that the
30:45
Speaker 1: victim's seven year old biological brother had anger issues and
30:50
Speaker 1: had caused those injuries. The officer asked what a seven
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Speaker 1: year old possibly used to cause such axtreme brusing and
30:58
Speaker 1: Miste Benet stated, who pick up any thing? Hit him?
31:01
Speaker 1: And now you hear the so called mom and dad
31:05
Speaker 1: blaming the bio brothers also being adopted into this family
31:11
Speaker 1: to the victims biological aunt, Michelle Herbs. Now we hear
31:17
Speaker 1: them blaming her brothers for beating her dead. Oh yeah,
31:21
Speaker 1: that makes me really angry because the one that they
31:26
Speaker 1: blamed he is probably the sweetest, most docile, loving child
31:31
Speaker 1: ever and he would never I've never seen him raise
31:38
Speaker 1: a hand to anyone in anger at all, ever, And
31:43
Speaker 1: honestly and truly, he's seven years old. He's not strong
31:46
Speaker 1: enough to cause as much damage as stun to Victoria.
31:50
Speaker 1: And if he was hitting her, why didn't they step in?
31:54
Speaker 1: These people are two hundred three hundred pounds each. You
31:57
Speaker 1: can't tell me they can't stop of seven year old.
32:01
Speaker 1: And that brings to mind Daphne Young, national Chief of
32:04
Speaker 1: Course communications officer with Childhelp dot Org. You know, when
32:11
Speaker 1: John Benet went missing and people insisted that the brother
32:17
Speaker 1: was responsible for her death, that never made sense to me. Statistically,
32:23
Speaker 1: that is extremely rare, very rare. I mean, if you
32:27
Speaker 1: look at the brother Burke, he was pale and thin
32:33
Speaker 1: and frail looking. John Benet looked like she had so
32:37
Speaker 1: much life to her she could have probably snapped him
32:39
Speaker 1: in half. I never understood people's claims of sibling murder.
32:45
Speaker 1: It's statistically highly unlikely. Same thing here. I don't believe
32:52
Speaker 1: that for one minute plus that morning, according to them,
32:56
Speaker 1: she's sitting at the breakfast table eating pancakes. And I
32:59
Speaker 1: want to point now she says the brothers were at
33:02
Speaker 1: school at the time, and that she chokes on water,
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Speaker 1: drinks too much water. But now they're trying to blame
33:09
Speaker 1: the brothers that were at school. It's crazy, Nancy. And
33:14
Speaker 1: I'm first of all, Michelle, I'm so sorry to hear
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Speaker 1: your tears and to have you sit here and participate
33:20
Speaker 1: and listen. And I know that you're speaking on behalf
33:23
Speaker 1: of Tory Rose, and we so appreciate you being here
33:26
Speaker 1: and sharing your heart. You know, this blaming of the
33:29
Speaker 1: little brother, it shows a pattern of manipulation at these
33:34
Speaker 1: quote unquote parents, as you say, not parents at all.
33:37
Speaker 1: The perpetrators had a history of this manipulation, showing a
33:42
Speaker 1: beautiful face of friends and family and love to the
33:45
Speaker 1: cameras and then behind the scenes. It sounds like a
33:48
Speaker 1: house of horrors. That brings me to another question. Doctor
33:52
Speaker 1: gen Man, family therapist, host of The Doctor Gin Show
33:56
Speaker 1: and Serious XM, author of the relationship fakes. I could
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Speaker 1: go on and on, doctor jan Why do people lie
34:02
Speaker 1: so much on Facebook? Well, I think that people try
34:05
Speaker 1: to present a picture perfect story. They try to be
34:10
Speaker 1: you know, some people try to be inspirational and some
34:12
Speaker 1: people try to be aspirational. And it seems like these
34:16
Speaker 1: are people who really lived a double lights and that
34:19
Speaker 1: they're presenting on Facebook that they are these lovely churchgoing
34:23
Speaker 1: people who are learning to cook on TV and like,
34:27
Speaker 1: you know, being parents, and the truth is that they
34:31
Speaker 1: were abusers, and that they were fostering and adopting children
34:35
Speaker 1: and beating them and harming them, and that there was
34:40
Speaker 1: something tragically horrifically wrong with this Facebook picture. You know.
34:46
Speaker 1: To Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author of Red Flags on
34:50
Speaker 1: Amazon host Today, doctor Wendy KCBQ, all of these Facebook
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Speaker 1: photos of the little girl smiling but covered in bruises,
35:01
Speaker 1: all of that can come in at trial as similar transactions,
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Speaker 1: proof of course of conduct, mmodus operandi, frame of mind,
35:11
Speaker 1: bent of mind to show this little girl and probably
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Speaker 1: her brothers had all been beaten the whole time they
35:18
Speaker 1: were in this foster family. Yeah, that's true, Nancy. You know,
35:21
Speaker 1: the puzzling saying about the Facebook's photos is most of
35:24
Speaker 1: us consider Facebook to be a highlights reel. It's an
35:27
Speaker 1: airbrushed version of reality that intentionally seeks to portray families, relationships,
35:33
Speaker 1: and as good of a light as possible. To have
35:36
Speaker 1: photos on Facebook of bruising is completely puzzling, because yes,
35:40
Speaker 1: it would be something that would be admissible. On the
35:43
Speaker 1: other hand, is it also going to be then used
35:45
Speaker 1: by the defenses some kind of evidence of obviously nothing
35:48
Speaker 1: was going on, or they wouldn't have posted it on Facebook.
35:50
Speaker 1: You know, you and I have seen this go both
35:52
Speaker 1: ways in terms of something being exculpatory and inflammatory, depending
35:57
Speaker 1: on the argument used to explain why and the worldly
36:00
Speaker 1: photos were online to begin with, Guys, take a listen
36:04
Speaker 1: to our cut fifteen. This is the prosecutor Christie can
36:09
Speaker 1: knock her Sastovich. Listen what she has to say. Several
36:14
Speaker 1: days after the arrest of both of these dependent judge
36:17
Speaker 1: mister Robinson's the turn contacting the state and so that
36:21
Speaker 1: his point wished to make a statement. Austin Robinson told
36:25
Speaker 1: police that he had not physically ever heard Tory, but
36:29
Speaker 1: the this defendant would quote space and beat her with
36:31
Speaker 1: different things, including a belt, paddle loop blog or whatever.
36:36
Speaker 1: The interview was two hours and Whybray and Junior run
36:40
Speaker 1: and asked to the actual interest. He stated that this defendant,
36:45
Speaker 1: Tory was the belt that he was outside and he
36:48
Speaker 1: could hear it. He came inside, he saw the bruising
36:51
Speaker 1: and looked at Ariel and said, you'd gone too far.
36:55
Speaker 1: He said that they put Tory in Ason salt bath
36:59
Speaker 1: and he says he went to CBS to try to
37:01
Speaker 1: buy medication fratrility to bring down the bruising. You're on her.
37:06
Speaker 1: Law enforcement did steer surveillance video and it does show
37:09
Speaker 1: Jerry Austin Robinson buying that medication. An one MS was
37:14
Speaker 1: called to the residents roughly around two pm. Jo, So
37:19
Speaker 1: let me understand something. Leavipage Crime online dot Com investigative reporter.
37:23
Speaker 1: They're like two rats on a sinking ship to start
37:28
Speaker 1: biting each other and clawing over each other to survive.
37:32
Speaker 1: One xtra minute, I'm definitely seeing a lot of this,
37:36
Speaker 1: pointing the finger at each other. So am I correct
37:39
Speaker 1: that the father Jerry Robinson as now blaming Ariel Robinson
37:45
Speaker 1: the reality star? Or correct Nancy? Remember in that nine
37:49
Speaker 1: one one call he said she was choking on water. However,
37:52
Speaker 1: two days after that, nine one one called the police
37:54
Speaker 1: interviewed him for two hours, and he did confirm to
37:58
Speaker 1: them that Ariel Robinson beat the child to death, that
38:01
Speaker 1: she was beating the child that day, and that she
38:04
Speaker 1: had beat the child in the past with a belt
38:07
Speaker 1: of flip flop shoes, whatever she could get her hands on.
38:11
Speaker 1: And another inconsistency that they caught the parents and they
38:15
Speaker 1: tried to blame Victoria's brother for some of the bruising
38:19
Speaker 1: on her. They went to one of the teachers of
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Speaker 1: one of the little boys and they said, is he
38:25
Speaker 1: aggressive like the foster parents are claiming, And the teacher said, no,
38:29
Speaker 1: He's a wonderful kid, very docile, no behavior issues, no aggression.
38:36
Speaker 1: So these foster parents have been caught in a lot
38:39
Speaker 1: of lies, a lot of lies. Guys. Take a listen
38:42
Speaker 1: to our cut eighteen and our friends Cody ALcom and
38:46
Speaker 1: Victoria Carmen at Fox Carolina disturbing new details in the
38:51
Speaker 1: death of three year old Victoria Rose Smith. We have
38:54
Speaker 1: been following her death since it happened on January fourteenth.
38:58
Speaker 1: She was living at home and Sinville with these two
39:01
Speaker 1: foster parents and her brothers. One of those foster parents
39:05
Speaker 1: have gotten a lot of attention because she's a former
39:08
Speaker 1: Food Network star, but a thing more disturbing as the
39:11
Speaker 1: fact she was also a teacher. Her name is Ariel Robinson,
39:14
Speaker 1: and her husband, Jerry's also charged in this case. Both
39:17
Speaker 1: have a charge of homicide by child abuse, and new
39:21
Speaker 1: information about how the young girl died was presented by
39:24
Speaker 1: the prosecutor during Robinson's bond hearing today. Investigators say they
39:29
Speaker 1: found bruises all over her body. They say that Robinson
39:33
Speaker 1: told them Victoria was choking on water at the time,
39:36
Speaker 1: so if she tried to do the hemlock, which caused
39:39
Speaker 1: some of that bruising. But the prosecutor says Robins's husband
39:43
Speaker 1: described a beating with a belt, a beating so bad
39:48
Speaker 1: he says he could hear it outside the home. To
39:52
Speaker 1: Michelle rps, this is a little Toria Rose's aunt. What
39:58
Speaker 1: was your reaction to the bond here when you heard
40:00
Speaker 1: all this evidence. I became very angry with him. I
40:04
Speaker 1: was already angry with him and angry with her, but
40:08
Speaker 1: I got even more angry with him because he didn't
40:10
Speaker 1: stop it. He didn't report it. It was happening all along.
40:15
Speaker 1: He didn't do anything, and I don't know what kind
40:18
Speaker 1: of man that is. He is not a man. He
40:21
Speaker 1: is not a man, He is not a father. He
40:24
Speaker 1: deserves just as much as what she gets. In my opinion,
40:28
Speaker 1: they really do need to go down together. The two
40:33
Speaker 1: need to be tried together for murder and stew in
40:38
Speaker 1: the same pot in front of the jury. The two
40:42
Speaker 1: are still behind bars. After that bell hearing, we wait
40:48
Speaker 1: as just his sun falls. Nancy Grace Crime Story, signing
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Speaker 1: off goodbye friend,