Latest / Daniel and Kelly’s Extraordinary Universe / Can particles travel faster than light?
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Hey, Daniel, what happens if you break a law of physics?
- 0:12Speaker 1: Is this a hypothetical question? Are you like looking for
- 0:15Speaker 1: physics legal advice? Well, I mean, I'm not saying I'm
- 0:19Speaker 1: building a faster than like black hole machine in my backyard.
- 0:22Speaker 1: I'm just, you know, just hypothetically, what would happen to
- 0:25Speaker 1: me legally if I broke a law physics? Well, speaking
- 0:30Speaker 1: for physics as a spokesperson for physics, physics tend to
- 0:33Speaker 1: be pretty unforgiven. You just can't break the laws. You mean,
- 0:37Speaker 1: I can't go to physics jail or get a physics Fine,
- 0:42Speaker 1: we have a black hole we throw all those people into.
- 0:45Speaker 1: I see that that is physics too. Yeah, as your
- 0:48Speaker 1: physics lawyer, I advise you not to break any laws
- 0:50Speaker 1: of physics. Hi am Korhamat, cartoonists and the creator of
- 1:10Speaker 1: PhD comics. Hi. I'm Daniel Whitson. I'm a particle of physicist,
- 1:14Speaker 1: and I'm always looking for ways to accomplish what we
- 1:17Speaker 1: need to without breaking the laws of physics. And together
- 1:20Speaker 1: with the authors of the book, we have No Idea.
- 1:22Speaker 1: A Guide to the Unknown Universe, now translated to over
- 1:26Speaker 1: twenty three languages. I just finished the Ukrainian version. It's awesome.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're we're the jokes as funny in Ukrainian
- 1:34Speaker 1: or may more funny. This sort of a dry sense
- 1:38Speaker 1: of humor there, you know, in Ukrainian it's a it's
- 1:40Speaker 1: a different culture or different language. Now, I have no
- 1:42Speaker 1: idea really how somebody translates our sort of silly sense
- 1:47Speaker 1: of humor into Korean or Ukrainian. But hey, they've done.
- 1:51Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a word for farts in all of
- 1:53Speaker 1: those languages. Yeah, well, that's a question which country has
- 1:57Speaker 1: the most words for farts? Something about culture? Right right, Twitter,
- 2:02Speaker 1: get on it, We challenge you. But that book tells
- 2:06Speaker 1: you not just about how to say farts in Korean
- 2:08Speaker 1: and Polish, but also about the mysteries of the universe
- 2:11Speaker 1: and how so many of them are left unsolved, so
- 2:14Speaker 1: many of them that maybe you, or your kids or
- 2:16Speaker 1: your grandkids might be the one to reveal something fascinating
- 2:20Speaker 1: and mind blowing and basic about the universe. We find
- 2:23Speaker 1: ourselves in Yeah, Amazon questions, some of which we tackle
- 2:26Speaker 1: here in our podcast, So welcome to Daniel and Jorge
- 2:29Speaker 1: Explain the Universe, a production of I Heart Radio in
- 2:32Speaker 1: which we explore all the unknowns and the nons about
- 2:35Speaker 1: the universe, the known knowns, the unknown unknowns, the unknownns,
- 2:39Speaker 1: and the known unknowns for the complete matrix of nonliness.
- 2:44Speaker 1: I don't know about that, man, But um, yeah, we
- 2:48Speaker 1: talk about how it all works, and specifically, I guess
- 2:51Speaker 1: we talk about what you can and cannot do in
- 2:54Speaker 1: the universe. Yeah, it's physics sort of works in both directions.
- 2:57Speaker 1: On one hand, we're looking around the universe and trying
- 2:59Speaker 1: to figure out what are the rules? You know, this
- 3:02Speaker 1: happens and that doesn't happen. Why doesn't that ever happen?
- 3:05Speaker 1: How can we never see anything break this rule? I
- 3:08Speaker 1: guess it's a fundamental rule the universe. But it also
- 3:11Speaker 1: goes the other way, where we're like, well, given these rules,
- 3:14Speaker 1: how do we accomplish what we want to? You know,
- 3:16Speaker 1: how do we get to alpha centaur? You know, reasonable
- 3:19Speaker 1: amount of time? How do we get enough energy to
- 3:21Speaker 1: fuel all the demands of humanity? So it sort of
- 3:23Speaker 1: works in both directions. Yeah, where it's that warp drive.
- 3:26Speaker 1: I'm still winning for my flying car and the teleporter
- 3:31Speaker 1: the warp drive. Warp drives might actually come before flying cars. Really, Yeah, well,
- 3:36Speaker 1: warp drives you know, theoretically solved, and there's some practical
- 3:39Speaker 1: problems there. We talked about on our podcast, you know, like,
- 3:42Speaker 1: you know, do you eat the entire massive Jupiter in
- 3:45Speaker 1: order to accomplish in one trip? But hey, it's just
- 3:47Speaker 1: an engineering problem. I see, I see. Theoretically we have
- 3:52Speaker 1: warp drives, we totally practically practically, we're not there yet.
- 3:55Speaker 1: We're not there yet. But I think flying cars are
- 3:58Speaker 1: harder because it's not just an engine earing problem. It's
- 4:00Speaker 1: like a sociological problem. Like you know, you turn left,
- 4:04Speaker 1: you turn right, you turn up, you know, and I have.
- 4:06Speaker 1: Everybody has to learn how to drive those things. It's
- 4:08Speaker 1: going to be a nightmare. Who who wants flying cars?
- 4:11Speaker 1: You know? Who wants to be stuck in three dimensional traffic?
- 4:14Speaker 1: Maybe we should only get flying cars after we get
- 4:16Speaker 1: self driving cars, so we can get self driving flying cars.
- 4:20Speaker 1: I can't tell that's the best idea or the worst idea. Yeah,
- 4:24Speaker 1: we'll say it's a theoretically good idea and then leave
- 4:27Speaker 1: it to the engineers. Something I've always wanted to do
- 4:29Speaker 1: is visit their star systems and walk on the surface
- 4:32Speaker 1: of other planets. But of course these planets are all
- 4:35Speaker 1: so far away that, given the limitation of the speed
- 4:37Speaker 1: of light, it would take you forever to get there. Right, Yeah,
- 4:41Speaker 1: I mean it's a huge and amazing universe with probably
- 4:44Speaker 1: incredible and mindloing things to see, but they're all they're
- 4:47Speaker 1: all really far away. Right, The nearest star is at
- 4:52Speaker 1: least what three light years away? And yeah, proximates Centauri
- 4:56Speaker 1: is more than three light years away, and our galaxies
- 5:00Speaker 1: hundreds thousand light years across, and the nearest galaxy is
- 5:03Speaker 1: much much further away. So you might think that makes
- 5:06Speaker 1: the universe inaccessible, but your physics lawyer will provide a
- 5:10Speaker 1: physics loophole. Yeah, in the in the contract of the universe,
- 5:14Speaker 1: is that where the loophole is, or in the laws written? Yeah,
- 5:19Speaker 1: if you want to accomplish something and there's a law
- 5:21Speaker 1: that's sort of stopping you, you've got to think to yourself,
- 5:23Speaker 1: do I really need to break this law or is
- 5:25Speaker 1: there another way to get there? And so, in the
- 5:27Speaker 1: case of warp drives, it's a really elegant solution. It says,
- 5:30Speaker 1: you know, nothing can move through space faster than light,
- 5:34Speaker 1: All right, well, then don't move through space, just bend space.
- 5:38Speaker 1: So it's not actually so far away. It's a good
- 5:41Speaker 1: it's a really it's a beautiful sort of example of
- 5:42Speaker 1: how do you think differently, so you're not breaking the rules,
- 5:45Speaker 1: but you're getting what you wanted. If Mohammed camp come
- 5:48Speaker 1: to alpha centauri, have alpha centauri come to Mohowing. And
- 5:52Speaker 1: so there are loopholes and in physics and the ways
- 5:56Speaker 1: in which there's sort of an unbreakable law, but if
- 5:58Speaker 1: you think about it a little bit, there are maybe
- 6:00Speaker 1: ways that you can work around it, right, yeah, precisely,
- 6:04Speaker 1: and this one nothing can travel faster than light. This
- 6:06Speaker 1: one's pretty susceptible to loopholes. Really, it's a fraud law.
- 6:11Speaker 1: It's it's it's not well written. You have the guys
- 6:14Speaker 1: who drafted it initially, they should have thought about all
- 6:17Speaker 1: the clauses and the addendums and the very scenarios. Clearly
- 6:22Speaker 1: was written by physicists, not lawyers. And now it's physicists
- 6:26Speaker 1: that are helping us get around it, and especially particle physics,
- 6:30Speaker 1: because we've talked in the podcast before about particles that
- 6:33Speaker 1: move faster than the speed of light, like tachyons. But
- 6:36Speaker 1: there's another thing you can do. You can actually get
- 6:39Speaker 1: normal everyday particles like electrons, and muanes going faster than light.
- 6:43Speaker 1: It feels like you're saying something profane or something heretical. Um, yeah,
- 6:48Speaker 1: I sort of like that. I'm sort of like, you know,
- 6:50Speaker 1: tossing a challenge in the face of the universe, Like
- 6:53Speaker 1: you think you got this law, watch this, watch me
- 6:56Speaker 1: go faster. Sorry, I'm gonna break this rule right in
- 6:59Speaker 1: front of you. Yeah. So today on the program, we'll
- 7:01Speaker 1: be tackling the topic how particles can go faster than light.
- 7:11Speaker 1: Today's topic is not a question for the first time.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Usually we have a question as a title of the episode,
- 7:16Speaker 1: but today it's a statement. That's right. We are standing
- 7:19Speaker 1: up for particles and say you can't tell them what
- 7:22Speaker 1: to do particles. Yeah, and it's it's a prescriptive title
- 7:27Speaker 1: to right. I guess we're going to explain how particles
- 7:29Speaker 1: can go faster than light. Yes, we certainly are. We're
- 7:32Speaker 1: gonna explain how it happens and how it works. And
- 7:34Speaker 1: also we're gonna answer some other lingering questions in your mind,
- 7:38Speaker 1: like why are nuclear power plants always shown as glowing
- 7:42Speaker 1: blue in the movies because green means their ghosts. I
- 7:46Speaker 1: guess I was I was wondering what you're gonna say,
- 7:49Speaker 1: there's artistic science point of view. You have different colors
- 7:53Speaker 1: mean different things. Yeah, red is danger, right. I was
- 7:58Speaker 1: seeing as green as ghost from those busters. I thought
- 8:01Speaker 1: green was envy. But and I always thought blue was
- 8:04Speaker 1: sort of like cold, and you know things are like
- 8:06Speaker 1: ice blue. But you know, power plants, these nuclear power plants,
- 8:09Speaker 1: they're always glowing blue. I've actually seen it myself in
- 8:12Speaker 1: real life. We have a nuclear power plant under the
- 8:15Speaker 1: chemistry building here. You see irvine. Wait, they do glow blue.
- 8:19Speaker 1: You're not You're not kidding. I'm not kidding, man, this
- 8:21Speaker 1: is a sign podcast stuff up. Actually we're talking about movies.
- 8:25Speaker 1: But you were thinking real life nuclear power plants globe blue.
- 8:28Speaker 1: In real life nuclear power plants glow blue. It's not
- 8:31Speaker 1: just Doctor Manhattan, it's real. I've seen it with my
- 8:34Speaker 1: own eyeballs. Oh man, and you're still alive alive? Well,
- 8:38Speaker 1: this AI simulation of me that does the podcast with you,
- 8:41Speaker 1: it's still alive. I uploaded myself to the cloud. It's
- 8:44Speaker 1: encase in radiation proof skin. I am Doctor Manhattan. It
- 8:50Speaker 1: turns out that's all this time. Oh my goodness, you're good.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Just made everything all these episod. So it's a peer
- 9:00Speaker 1: out of nowhere. Oh wow, can Dr Manhattan have a
- 9:03Speaker 1: podcast that that would be amazing, probably be a little disorienting.
- 9:08Speaker 1: But he doesn't seem to have a great sense of humor.
- 9:10Speaker 1: You know. I figured he's all powerful. Why can't you
- 9:12Speaker 1: think of a joke because he already knows the answer?
- 9:14Speaker 1: Oh so an element of comedy. Surprised if you know
- 9:17Speaker 1: the future, Yeah, doctormhand of course, because if you haven't
- 9:20Speaker 1: seen it from the show Watchman and the of course
- 9:23Speaker 1: graphic novel Watchman. But so, glowing blue is a thing
- 9:27Speaker 1: related to physics and nuclear power plants. And so that's
- 9:30Speaker 1: what we'll get into today. That's right. And the technical
- 9:33Speaker 1: name for what what we're gonna explain today is called
- 9:35Speaker 1: charnkof radiation, named for I guess Bob Charnkoff or Sam
- 9:40Speaker 1: Durnkoff or Sally Churnkoff, whoever discovered it, probably your maybe
- 9:45Speaker 1: or likely it was like yes, um, And so I
- 9:51Speaker 1: walked around campus here at you see Irvine, and I
- 9:53Speaker 1: asked people if they had heard of trunk off radiation
- 9:56Speaker 1: and if they thought particles could move faster than the
- 9:59Speaker 1: speed of light. So think about it for a second
- 10:01Speaker 1: and ask yourself if someone asked you if you knew
- 10:04Speaker 1: what sharinkof radiation was and if particles can go faster
- 10:06Speaker 1: than light, what would you answer. Here's what they had
- 10:09Speaker 1: to say. Have you heard of charinkof radiation? No? I haven't.
- 10:13Speaker 1: Do you think any particles can travel faster than light?
- 10:16Speaker 1: I don't know if this is accurate, but I think
- 10:18Speaker 1: like Einstein or someone like said that it is impossible
- 10:21Speaker 1: to travel faster than light. No, I have no idea.
- 10:24Speaker 1: Maybe I think it depends like how small they are,
- 10:28Speaker 1: and like I don't really know too much about like
- 10:30Speaker 1: the smallest particles or anything. So I think it could
- 10:33Speaker 1: be possible. No, I don't really sure. What's the name
- 10:37Speaker 1: of it? They says that is too PARTO, that's so small,
- 10:42Speaker 1: But they can contact with each other and really partably distance,
- 10:47Speaker 1: maybe even faster than the light. Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah,
- 10:52Speaker 1: I believe so. But I couldn't defend that answer. O. No, no,
- 10:58Speaker 1: because isn't the spit of the fastest thing? Alright, A
- 11:02Speaker 1: lot of pretty good law abiding citizens answering your question,
- 11:06Speaker 1: nobody thought you can break this law of physics. You know,
- 11:09Speaker 1: some people did. Some people said, well, it depends how
- 11:11Speaker 1: small they are. That's my favorite one, Like to get
- 11:14Speaker 1: small enough then the laws don't apply, or something like
- 11:18Speaker 1: I see if the light is small enough, like if
- 11:20Speaker 1: the light if you're small enough, or if the light
- 11:23Speaker 1: is smaller, if the particles are small enough. I'm thinking,
- 11:26Speaker 1: you know, there's a like some minimum size for things
- 11:29Speaker 1: that these rules apply for, Like you know, if you're
- 11:31Speaker 1: smaller than one femptometer then these rules apply. And that
- 11:35Speaker 1: makes some sense because you know, if you're like half
- 11:38Speaker 1: of a point particle in size, then maybe go faster. Yeah,
- 11:44Speaker 1: and other folks, you know, some in quantum mechanics, you know,
- 11:47Speaker 1: maybe it's quantum magic something something something, Oh I see
- 11:51Speaker 1: because because it doesn't even quantum physics, there are you
- 11:54Speaker 1: guys do use sports like teleportation sometimes where you know,
- 11:58Speaker 1: sort of like going across some barrier or right, or
- 12:01Speaker 1: information traveling faster than light. We do sort of do
- 12:04Speaker 1: things that seem impossible using quantum mechanics that we never
- 12:08Speaker 1: send information faster than the speed of light um. And
- 12:11Speaker 1: you know, we do attach quantum to things that don't
- 12:13Speaker 1: really make sense, Like we talked about quantum cheetos on
- 12:16Speaker 1: the podcast Last Time did we did we Was that
- 12:19Speaker 1: just a dream, flaming hot dream? Yeah, alright, let's not
- 12:23Speaker 1: talk about Daniels flaming hot dreams. Yeah, so let's talk
- 12:26Speaker 1: about how particles can go faster than lights. So are
- 12:28Speaker 1: you're saying it's kind of a loophole and the laws
- 12:30Speaker 1: of physics. Yeah, you have to be really careful about
- 12:32Speaker 1: how you read these rules so you know exactly what
- 12:35Speaker 1: it applies to the law says nothing can go faster
- 12:39Speaker 1: than light in a vacuum. I feel like that's where
- 12:42Speaker 1: the maybe the caveat is in a vacuum. Yes, in
- 12:45Speaker 1: a vacuum. And so the key thing to understand there
- 12:48Speaker 1: is that it's not nothing can ever move faster than
- 12:51Speaker 1: the photon moves, which is the common interpretation, right, like
- 12:54Speaker 1: light always wins a race. It's that there is a
- 12:56Speaker 1: maximum speed limit to the universe, and that aximum speed
- 13:00Speaker 1: limit is the speed that light travels when it's in
- 13:03Speaker 1: a vacuum, right, and a vacuum in this case, obviously
- 13:07Speaker 1: it's not a carpet vacuum. You are talking about space.
- 13:13Speaker 1: Are we talking about non space? Are we talking about emptiness? Oh? Man,
- 13:17Speaker 1: As a whole forty five minute digression, there but yeah,
- 13:20Speaker 1: we're sort of talking about empty space, as as empty
- 13:23Speaker 1: as space can get, right, space space nothing but space.
- 13:26Speaker 1: Space always has quantum fields in it. Or a particle
- 13:29Speaker 1: can't move through space if it didn't have quantum fields
- 13:32Speaker 1: in it, because the particle is just a ripple in
- 13:34Speaker 1: the quantum fields. But as empty as space can get.
- 13:38Speaker 1: That's how light can travel the fastest. But it's not
- 13:41Speaker 1: really about light. You know. We call it the speed
- 13:43Speaker 1: of light because in a vacuum, that's how fast light goes.
- 13:45Speaker 1: But it's really the speed of information in the universe,
- 13:48Speaker 1: the speed out which anything can travel, not just light
- 13:52Speaker 1: but just anything in this in space. That's right, it's
- 13:56Speaker 1: the top speed for information, which means it's the fastest
- 13:59Speaker 1: that bolts can move through quantum fields, which mean that particles,
- 14:03Speaker 1: which are ripples in those fields, can never move faster
- 14:06Speaker 1: than that speed. Now, lots of particles move slower than
- 14:08Speaker 1: that speed, right, or massive particles can be at rest.
- 14:12Speaker 1: But it's sort of more about the speed limit of
- 14:14Speaker 1: the universe and not about the photons themselves. And it's
- 14:18Speaker 1: it's sort of not just particles, right, Like gravity can't
- 14:20Speaker 1: travel faster than light either. That's just why that's why
- 14:23Speaker 1: we have gravitational waves, that's right, gravitational information. Like if
- 14:28Speaker 1: you deleted the Sun from the universe, not something I recommend,
- 14:31Speaker 1: then we would still feel its gravity for eight minutes.
- 14:34Speaker 1: Eight minutes later where we'd be, we would feel the
- 14:38Speaker 1: lack of the Sun. Yeah, precisely. And so it's because
- 14:41Speaker 1: information takes time to propagate through the universe. And that's
- 14:44Speaker 1: all about the fields, right. What happens if you delete
- 14:47Speaker 1: the Sun from the universe, while the gravitational field of
- 14:50Speaker 1: the Sun sort of snaps back into flatness, but that
- 14:54Speaker 1: snapping takes time to propagate through the field. There's no
- 14:57Speaker 1: instantaneous transmission of information, and so it's really about information
- 15:01Speaker 1: as transmitted through quantum fields. That's the fundamental limitation, and
- 15:05Speaker 1: everything else just sort of falls out of that. So
- 15:07Speaker 1: that's the law the lasses. Nothing can go faster than
- 15:10Speaker 1: light in a vacuum. So then where's the loophole. Well,
- 15:14Speaker 1: the loophole is that if you could somehow slow down light,
- 15:18Speaker 1: then you could move faster than light as long as
- 15:21Speaker 1: both of you are under the speed limit of the universe.
- 15:24Speaker 1: If you can slow down your opponent, then you can
- 15:27Speaker 1: beat your opponent. You only have to run faster than
- 15:30Speaker 1: your friend when the bear is chasing you kind of situation. No,
- 15:33Speaker 1: but if the goal is to move faster than light,
- 15:37Speaker 1: then yeah, all you need to do is somehow slow
- 15:39Speaker 1: down light. If your goal is to move faster than
- 15:42Speaker 1: the speed of light does in a vacuum, yeah, that's impossible. Oh,
- 15:45Speaker 1: I see, it's possible to go faster than light quote unquote,
- 15:50Speaker 1: but maybe it's not possible to go faster than the
- 15:54Speaker 1: fastest that light can go precisely. And so it's sort
- 15:57Speaker 1: of a legalistic answer, right, can you go past and light? Oh? Yeah, sure,
- 16:01Speaker 1: I just slow light down and then I can easily
- 16:03Speaker 1: stroll past photons. So it depends on what you wanted
- 16:08Speaker 1: to do. If you wanted to move faster than light
- 16:10Speaker 1: doesn't a vacuum, If you wanted to get to Alpha
- 16:12Speaker 1: Centauri in two seconds, that might not be possible if
- 16:15Speaker 1: you have to move through space. But if you want
- 16:17Speaker 1: to have the experience of having your particles beat photons
- 16:21Speaker 1: in a race, that is possible. All right to me.
- 16:23Speaker 1: That doesn't sound like it's super easy to do, but
- 16:25Speaker 1: it sounds like maybe it is pretty easy to do.
- 16:28Speaker 1: And so let's get into how we can slow the
- 16:31Speaker 1: light down so we can beat it and what that
- 16:33Speaker 1: means for nuclear reactors. But first, let's take a quick break,
- 16:50Speaker 1: all right, Daniel, So news flash. While we were on break,
- 16:53Speaker 1: you liked Churinkov's first name. So what's his first name? Yes,
- 16:57Speaker 1: so it's not Eurie trink Off or Sally turnk Off,
- 16:59Speaker 1: it's po Old drink Off. And he won the Nobel
- 17:02Speaker 1: Prize in Night for explaining this amazing phenomena how how
- 17:07Speaker 1: particles give off this crazy blue glow when they do
- 17:11Speaker 1: beat photons in a race. Did he know why it was?
- 17:14Speaker 1: I guess that's why he got the Nobel Prize, But
- 17:16Speaker 1: did he know sort of the implications of it. Yeah,
- 17:18Speaker 1: I mean, this is the kind of thing that he
- 17:20Speaker 1: predicted and understood and then it was observed, and so
- 17:23Speaker 1: they give the Nobel Prize when you sort of understand
- 17:25Speaker 1: something that actually happens in the universe. Let's talk about
- 17:28Speaker 1: how particles can go faster than light, which apparently they can.
- 17:31Speaker 1: So there's a loophole in the lots of physics that
- 17:34Speaker 1: say you can go faster than light, can beat light
- 17:38Speaker 1: under certain conditions. That's right, and those conditions are that
- 17:41Speaker 1: you make light go slower, and you're probably thinking, hold
- 17:44Speaker 1: on a second, how could light go slower? Light is
- 17:46Speaker 1: made of photons, and photons have no mass, and everything
- 17:50Speaker 1: that has no mass has to move at the speed
- 17:52Speaker 1: of light because otherwise you could like catch up to
- 17:55Speaker 1: it and be hanging out with it. But like, photons
- 17:58Speaker 1: have no mass, so what happens if you catch up
- 18:00Speaker 1: to them? Then they're nothing? Right. The light is also
- 18:02Speaker 1: this funny thing because a lot of relativity, right depends
- 18:06Speaker 1: on this idea that light can always travels at the
- 18:08Speaker 1: same speed no matter how fast you're going or how
- 18:11Speaker 1: you're looking at it. Yeah, this is amazing principle in
- 18:14Speaker 1: special relativity that says everybody who measures the speed of light,
- 18:18Speaker 1: even the same light, always gets the same answer, regardless
- 18:22Speaker 1: of how fast they're moving relative to each other. So
- 18:24Speaker 1: if I'm shining a flashlight and I measure the speed
- 18:27Speaker 1: of those photons, that of course I get the speed
- 18:29Speaker 1: of light. But if I'm standing on a train that's
- 18:32Speaker 1: going half the speed of light, and you're on the
- 18:34Speaker 1: ground and you measure the light coming out of my photons,
- 18:37Speaker 1: you don't get one point five times the speed of light.
- 18:40Speaker 1: You still just get the speed of light and somebody
- 18:42Speaker 1: coming the other direction measures that still gets the speed
- 18:45Speaker 1: of light, and that's where all the crazy effects come
- 18:47Speaker 1: from in relativity. But you're saying that it is possible
- 18:49Speaker 1: to slow light down, So so how does that happen? Well,
- 18:53Speaker 1: it's gonna be another sort of legalistic answer, right. So
- 18:57Speaker 1: it's true that photons always move at the speed of
- 18:59Speaker 1: light in a vacuum, but when they're in a material,
- 19:03Speaker 1: a material you think of, it's sort of like a
- 19:05Speaker 1: collection of atoms or molecules, like when it's moving through
- 19:09Speaker 1: something not just empty space. Yeah, and those things slow
- 19:13Speaker 1: it down. It's like walking across an empty room versus
- 19:16Speaker 1: walking across a room with a bunch of your friends
- 19:18Speaker 1: in it. Every time you take a step, you're gonna
- 19:21Speaker 1: interact with one of those molecules. One of your friends
- 19:23Speaker 1: can say, hey, horror, how's it going, And you're gonna
- 19:26Speaker 1: have to respond to them, and it's going to slow
- 19:27Speaker 1: you down. Right, That's why I don't have any friends.
- 19:29Speaker 1: I'd just like to get to where I'm going. I
- 19:32Speaker 1: find that it's the most efficient way to live your life,
- 19:34Speaker 1: so not interact with humanity. And then but it's it's
- 19:38Speaker 1: kind of like Ussein Bald on a track can go
- 19:41Speaker 1: really fast, but Usain Bold going through a credit room
- 19:44Speaker 1: full of Daniel's friends, it would take him as longer. Yeah, precisely.
- 19:48Speaker 1: So the photon, you can imagine it moving through this material,
- 19:51Speaker 1: and it interacts with those atoms, and so in some
- 19:54Speaker 1: sense it's getting like absorbed and re emitted or at
- 19:56Speaker 1: the very least getting deflected by these electron and so
- 20:00Speaker 1: it's not just moving through the material in a straight line.
- 20:03Speaker 1: Is either getting absorbed and re emitted or deflected sort
- 20:06Speaker 1: of back and forth a little bit. And then it's
- 20:08Speaker 1: effective speed is slower than the speed of light. So
- 20:11Speaker 1: you can think that between its interaction with atoms, it's
- 20:14Speaker 1: still moving at the speed of light in the vacuum,
- 20:16Speaker 1: but you have to factor in the time it takes
- 20:19Speaker 1: to get absorbed by the electron to get re emitted,
- 20:22Speaker 1: or you have to think about this sort of effective
- 20:24Speaker 1: path length. If you're going up and down because you're
- 20:27Speaker 1: getting um interacting with the electrons and the nuclear fields,
- 20:30Speaker 1: then you're sort of getting pushed in the wrong direction
- 20:32Speaker 1: a little bit, and so your effective speed is gonna
- 20:34Speaker 1: be a little slower. It takes more time to get
- 20:37Speaker 1: through like a pane of glass, than it would to
- 20:40Speaker 1: get through the same distance In vacuum. Light takes longer
- 20:43Speaker 1: to go through glass than it does through water or air.
- 20:47Speaker 1: Light takes longer to go through water, air, or glass
- 20:50Speaker 1: than it does to get through a vacuum. And every
- 20:52Speaker 1: material has you know, some number we call this the
- 20:54Speaker 1: index of refraction that tells you sort of how much
- 20:57Speaker 1: light is slowed down. I guess my question is, if
- 21:00Speaker 1: it's getting absorbed and re emitted, is it's still the
- 21:02Speaker 1: same light? That is a question for the philosophy department,
- 21:05Speaker 1: my friend. It mostly is the same photon. I mean
- 21:08Speaker 1: it has the same roughly the same direction and carries
- 21:11Speaker 1: a lot of the same information um. But if a
- 21:14Speaker 1: photon is absorbed we emitted, is it the same photon?
- 21:17Speaker 1: We talked about that on the podcast when we're talking
- 21:19Speaker 1: about like the age of the electrons in your body.
- 21:22Speaker 1: If they don't interact, then it's the same one. If
- 21:24Speaker 1: they interact, is it really still the same one? Well,
- 21:26Speaker 1: you know, every particle is interacting with quantum virtual particles,
- 21:30Speaker 1: even in the vacuum, and so from that point of view,
- 21:32Speaker 1: like particle never lives from more than ten of the
- 21:35Speaker 1: mine is twenty five seconds and so no particles, the
- 21:38Speaker 1: same as as it was before, but effectively, I mean,
- 21:41Speaker 1: if you shine a beam of light through glass, you're
- 21:43Speaker 1: thinking about the same beam that's coming out the other side.
- 21:46Speaker 1: So really what you're interested in is measuring like the
- 21:48Speaker 1: velocity through the pane of glass. Okay, so then if
- 21:51Speaker 1: I shoot some light into glass, it's going to slow down.
- 21:56Speaker 1: And so that's one way that you can beat light.
- 21:58Speaker 1: You can run outside of the glass, you could run
- 22:00Speaker 1: on the side of glass. But some particles don't interact
- 22:04Speaker 1: with the material. Like you send a muan through a
- 22:07Speaker 1: block of ice, it doesn't interact with the material as
- 22:10Speaker 1: much as a photon does. So the photon gets slowed down.
- 22:12Speaker 1: But the muan is sort of stand offish. It's like
- 22:14Speaker 1: walking through a room of your friends and ignoring all
- 22:17Speaker 1: of them. Particle, like the muon can go through glass
- 22:19Speaker 1: and it doesn't stop as much as a photon because
- 22:23Speaker 1: I guess the particles don't like it, or it all
- 22:26Speaker 1: depends on the interactions. Yeah, the photon is slowed down
- 22:29Speaker 1: because it interacts with those atoms. The photon is a photon,
- 22:32Speaker 1: it interacts with everything that has charge and that means
- 22:35Speaker 1: atomic nuclei and atomic electrons, but a muon is heavier,
- 22:39Speaker 1: and that mass prevents it from interacting as much because
- 22:43Speaker 1: the rate of interaction there is dependent on the mass,
- 22:46Speaker 1: and so it helps us sort of ignore those particles.
- 22:49Speaker 1: And you know, other particles like neutrinos, they don't even
- 22:52Speaker 1: feel electromagnetic interactions, so they fly through this stuff and
- 22:54Speaker 1: they hardly even get slowed down at all. It's like
- 22:57Speaker 1: it just bulldozes through the crowd. Yeah, feels like it's
- 23:00Speaker 1: not even really there. Yeah. And so your speed through
- 23:03Speaker 1: material depends on how much you interact with that material.
- 23:06Speaker 1: And if photons interact more than your particle does, then
- 23:10Speaker 1: photons will get slowed down more than your particle does,
- 23:12Speaker 1: and your particle will win. It will come down the
- 23:15Speaker 1: other side of that material faster earlier than the other.
- 23:18Speaker 1: Photons always go at the speed of light. Muans cannot
- 23:21Speaker 1: go to the speed of light now because no particle
- 23:23Speaker 1: that has masks can go at the speed of light.
- 23:25Speaker 1: But they can go really fast. They can go point
- 23:28Speaker 1: or or something. I think if you accelerate a muan
- 23:31Speaker 1: enough and then start getting a piece of glass with
- 23:34Speaker 1: a photon, THEO would win. Yeah, if you shoot a
- 23:38Speaker 1: muon a gun at and you have a laser next
- 23:42Speaker 1: to it, then the muan is going to come outside
- 23:44Speaker 1: the piece of glass faster than the laser would good
- 23:47Speaker 1: for the muan. And electrons do this also. An electron
- 23:51Speaker 1: can go faster than light to electrons can go fast
- 23:54Speaker 1: in the light as well, and that's actually what gives
- 23:56Speaker 1: you the blue glow. And when particles do go faster
- 23:59Speaker 1: than light, then they had this really crazy effect called
- 24:02Speaker 1: charnkof radiation and it was actually churnk Off. He saw
- 24:05Speaker 1: this blue glow and then he used this idea to
- 24:08Speaker 1: explain it. Nobody understood like why is this stuff glowing
- 24:11Speaker 1: blue in these early nuclear experiments And he's the one
- 24:14Speaker 1: who came up with this explanation that maybe they're glowing
- 24:17Speaker 1: blue because they're going faster than the speed of light.
- 24:19Speaker 1: And he worked out all the math and he and
- 24:20Speaker 1: he showed why it happens. But wait, what did he
- 24:23Speaker 1: actually see, Like what was in front of him was
- 24:24Speaker 1: the radioactive material or was it just like going through glass?
- 24:29Speaker 1: But what was the thing that he actually noticed? Well,
- 24:32Speaker 1: what they were doing is they had a bottle of
- 24:35Speaker 1: water and they were shooting it with radiation right there.
- 24:39Speaker 1: This is in the early days, in the thirties, before
- 24:41Speaker 1: we really understood nuclear physics as well as we do now,
- 24:45Speaker 1: and they were just shooting it with particles and they
- 24:47Speaker 1: saw this blue light come out, and you know, they
- 24:49Speaker 1: didn't understand what caused it. Now, of course, we understand
- 24:52Speaker 1: that it was triggering other radioactive processes in the water
- 24:56Speaker 1: and some of those shootout electrons that moved through the
- 24:59Speaker 1: water fast, stir than the light can. And then it
- 25:02Speaker 1: gives off this blue glow, which is one of my
- 25:04Speaker 1: favorite things in physics. You mean a radiation, Well, radiation
- 25:08Speaker 1: is pretty awesome, or just the color blue, No, and
- 25:11Speaker 1: it's a nice blue. But this blue glow comes from
- 25:13Speaker 1: a special effect and it's sort of similar to a
- 25:16Speaker 1: sonic boom. All right, let's get into this sonic boom
- 25:19Speaker 1: but with light, and let's get into what actually happens
- 25:22Speaker 1: when you go faster than light. But first let's take
- 25:25Speaker 1: a quick break. All right, So it is possible to
- 25:40Speaker 1: beat light and go faster than light, but only if
- 25:43Speaker 1: you go through a material that slows light down, and
- 25:47Speaker 1: it only views something that doesn't get slowed down by
- 25:49Speaker 1: the glass. So and you're saying that's where where this
- 25:52Speaker 1: sharankovation comes from. Yeah, I think about it like a
- 25:55Speaker 1: boat on a on a lake. If you just dropped
- 25:58Speaker 1: a rock into a lake, then what happens. You get ripples,
- 26:00Speaker 1: and the ripples move out from the rock. But if
- 26:03Speaker 1: you drop a series of rocks, then you get a
- 26:05Speaker 1: series of ripples. Now imagine you're dropping a series of rocks,
- 26:09Speaker 1: but you're moving faster than the ripples. Then you end
- 26:12Speaker 1: up with this wake like behind the boat for example.
- 26:15Speaker 1: That's why if you drive a boat quickly, you get
- 26:17Speaker 1: a wake behind the boat, because you're moving faster than
- 26:20Speaker 1: the waves that are being made by your boat, and
- 26:22Speaker 1: they're building up. They're building up on top of each other.
- 26:25Speaker 1: And you're saying that that happens with light. Yeah, And
- 26:29Speaker 1: the same thing happens in the air. If you move
- 26:31Speaker 1: faster than the speed of sound, you get a sonic boom.
- 26:34Speaker 1: It's like a wake in the air. All those sounds
- 26:37Speaker 1: are adding up together to make you this with this
- 26:39Speaker 1: one big wave. So all the noise of the airplane
- 26:43Speaker 1: from one second ago, and two seconds ago, and five
- 26:45Speaker 1: seconds ago, it is all arriving at the same time
- 26:47Speaker 1: because it's moving faster than the sound it's making like
- 26:50Speaker 1: it's moving faster than the light can get out of
- 26:54Speaker 1: your way, and so you sort of accumulate a whole
- 26:56Speaker 1: bunch of air in front of you. That's kind of
- 26:58Speaker 1: what the sonic boom is. That's a sonic boom is,
- 27:00Speaker 1: and you hear it when that wake washes over you
- 27:03Speaker 1: if you're on the surface. Now, the cool thing is,
- 27:05Speaker 1: if you move faster than light, then you're moving faster
- 27:09Speaker 1: than the image that you make. Okay, so this is
- 27:11Speaker 1: like an optic boom. Yeah, it's like a luminal bloom.
- 27:14Speaker 1: I don't know, you should come up with a name
- 27:16Speaker 1: for it, but it's it's about a light boom that
- 27:21Speaker 1: sounds like something you'd use while in the production of
- 27:23Speaker 1: a movie. So I guess paying me through this. So
- 27:25Speaker 1: I'm a mun or some other radio active particle and
- 27:28Speaker 1: I'm moving through glass and I'm moving faster than light. Yeah,
- 27:32Speaker 1: So any light that you emit, you are leaving it behind.
- 27:37Speaker 1: And then if in a second later you emit more light,
- 27:39Speaker 1: you're also leaving that behind. So now the light is
- 27:41Speaker 1: sort of spreading out behind you, just the way a
- 27:44Speaker 1: boat would when it's moving across the surface of a lake.
- 27:47Speaker 1: But you're moving faster than the light you're making. And
- 27:49Speaker 1: so just the same way a boat makes awake or
- 27:52Speaker 1: an airplane going fast in the speed of sound makes
- 27:55Speaker 1: a sonic boom, which is just a wake in the air,
- 27:58Speaker 1: you are making a wake of light. Wait, I guess
- 28:01Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure understanding. I'm understanding. So let's say
- 28:04Speaker 1: I wasn't going faster than light. So I'm a muan.
- 28:06Speaker 1: I'm going through glass slowly. I hid a piece of glass,
- 28:10Speaker 1: and I emit photon right, that's kind of what happens,
- 28:14Speaker 1: And so the photon um just flies up in front
- 28:17Speaker 1: of me or what. Yeah, if you're moving slower than light,
- 28:20Speaker 1: like most of us do most days, then the any
- 28:23Speaker 1: image you make, any light that you emit, leaves you
- 28:26Speaker 1: and you don't catch up to it. Right, right, it's
- 28:29Speaker 1: gone in front of me because its gone behind me.
- 28:32Speaker 1: You emit light in all directions, right, You're not like
- 28:34Speaker 1: a black hole on one side. And so muans are similar.
- 28:37Speaker 1: They can emit light in any directions, and when they
- 28:38Speaker 1: moved to a medium, they tend to radiate a little bit, okay,
- 28:42Speaker 1: and they emit light sort of in every direction. So
- 28:44Speaker 1: imagine like circular wavefront leaving this muan. Those are photons
- 28:48Speaker 1: shot out in every direction from the muan. But now
- 28:51Speaker 1: the muan overtakes the ones that were going in the
- 28:54Speaker 1: direction it was going, and it makes another wave front
- 28:58Speaker 1: leaving it. So this is like dropping in another rock
- 29:00Speaker 1: in the lake, and that one adds up to the
- 29:03Speaker 1: photons that made previously, and but then it gets it
- 29:06Speaker 1: catches up to those and passes those and makes another one,
- 29:09Speaker 1: and so add these ripples get larger and larger they
- 29:12Speaker 1: add up to this wavefront. And that wavefront is the
- 29:15Speaker 1: luminal bloom or or whatever you wanna call it. Um
- 29:18Speaker 1: this wake in light that it's making, and that is
- 29:22Speaker 1: the blue glow. And because of the way they add up,
- 29:24Speaker 1: and because the muon is going so fast, it tends
- 29:27Speaker 1: to happen more often at bluer frequencies, and so it
- 29:31Speaker 1: actually emits trink arf radiation and a whole spectrum of frequencies.
- 29:35Speaker 1: You just mostly see the blue part because it happens
- 29:38Speaker 1: more often in the blue range. And so that's what
- 29:40Speaker 1: drink arf radiation is. Drink or radiation is really like
- 29:43Speaker 1: the sonic boom for light, and that's what you're seeing
- 29:46Speaker 1: when you look at a nuclear reactor, you're seeing electrons
- 29:49Speaker 1: that are like kicked off from from radioactive decay or
- 29:52Speaker 1: from nuclear reactions, going faster than light can in that
- 29:55Speaker 1: water or in that material that they're sitting because they're
- 29:58Speaker 1: getting kicked out really fast. They're going to kick that
- 30:01Speaker 1: really fast, faster than light can go through whatever material
- 30:04Speaker 1: they're sitting in. Oh, I see, but normal electrons, like
- 30:08Speaker 1: if I just run a current roop some water not
- 30:11Speaker 1: recommended in your bathtub. But if I just cause it
- 30:15Speaker 1: short in like a body of water, I wouldn't get
- 30:18Speaker 1: this blue globe, would I? Yeah, you need the electrons
- 30:21Speaker 1: to be going really fast. And the same way, if
- 30:23Speaker 1: you took those same really fast electrons and you teleported
- 30:26Speaker 1: them into space, you had that reaction happening space, you
- 30:28Speaker 1: wouldn't get the blue glow because the blue glow only
- 30:31Speaker 1: comes from beating the speed of those photons in that material.
- 30:35Speaker 1: And so in a vacuum, you can't beat the speed
- 30:37Speaker 1: of those materials. Because in these nuclear reactions, they usually
- 30:40Speaker 1: have these fuel rods embedded in some material to capture
- 30:44Speaker 1: the energy, etcetera. To cool it. Then the electrons can
- 30:47Speaker 1: go faster than the photons do through that cooling material,
- 30:50Speaker 1: which is usually some special kind of water, because in
- 30:53Speaker 1: that way, in the nuclear reactor, it's it's the electrons
- 30:56Speaker 1: start shooting off really really fast, which is causing them
- 30:59Speaker 1: the In fact, that's what the water is for, right,
- 31:02Speaker 1: It's to slow down the electrons coming off. I think so. Yeah,
- 31:06Speaker 1: it gathers the energy from the neutrons and the electrons
- 31:10Speaker 1: that fly off, and also I think it keeps the
- 31:11Speaker 1: fuel rods from getting too hot and going critical. You know,
- 31:14Speaker 1: from my extensive research and watching to Drink In, watching Chernobyl,
- 31:19Speaker 1: from your extensive research watching Watchman and Dr Vanhan, you
- 31:24Speaker 1: can conclude that it is possible for God to fall
- 31:27Speaker 1: in love with the woman. That's right. And you know,
- 31:29Speaker 1: it really is true in real life that nuclear reactors
- 31:32Speaker 1: glow blue. And I think that's why people associate that
- 31:35Speaker 1: color with nuclear reactions, and that's probably why the artist
- 31:39Speaker 1: for Watchman made Doctor Manhattan globe blue. Interesting. And you've
- 31:42Speaker 1: you've seen this with your own eyes. You saw like
- 31:44Speaker 1: the tub of water glowing blue. Yeah. You can go
- 31:47Speaker 1: down the basement of one of the chemistry buildings here
- 31:49Speaker 1: at you see your behind where they have a working
- 31:50Speaker 1: nuclear reactor and you can just look at it and
- 31:53Speaker 1: it glows blue. Anyone from the street can just walk
- 31:55Speaker 1: into a nuclear reactor. Tell them Daniel whiteson SENSU the
- 32:00Speaker 1: dip their toes into the blue water. That's how it's
- 32:03Speaker 1: totally safe. No, you can't just go down. You have
- 32:05Speaker 1: to arrange a tour and it's limited to I thinks
- 32:07Speaker 1: students and this the sps here at u c I,
- 32:10Speaker 1: which is awesome. Arrange is a tour of the nuclear
- 32:13Speaker 1: reactor every year for the physics grad students and undergrads.
- 32:16Speaker 1: And so I tagged along one time. All right, so
- 32:19Speaker 1: that's pretty cool that we can beat light in a
- 32:21Speaker 1: foot race. I guess if you're ever inside of a material,
- 32:25Speaker 1: And so that's pretty good bragging rights. And also it's
- 32:28Speaker 1: nice to just flaunt the loss of physics. Right. Does
- 32:30Speaker 1: that feel good? It does? It does feel good to
- 32:32Speaker 1: say you thought you could limit us, you thought you
- 32:35Speaker 1: could crack down on us and keep us from getting
- 32:37Speaker 1: what we want. Humanity can outlawyer you, Universe. We have
- 32:43Speaker 1: better lawyers than you. It's like when your parents said,
- 32:45Speaker 1: you know, no more than two cookies and then you
- 32:47Speaker 1: eat ice cream instead, and you said, well, you didn't
- 32:48Speaker 1: say anything about ice cream. I'm sure that your parents
- 32:53Speaker 1: love it, just like the universe hypothetical situation. All right,
- 32:57Speaker 1: so then what so what is it besides sort of
- 32:59Speaker 1: a nice blue glow and sort of bragging rights. What
- 33:02Speaker 1: can we use this effect for? Is it useful for anything? Yeah,
- 33:05Speaker 1: there are experiments that are looking for really high energy
- 33:08Speaker 1: neutrinos coming from like other galaxies or who knows what.
- 33:13Speaker 1: And they passed through the Earth to use the entire
- 33:16Speaker 1: Earth as a detector, and as they're passing through the Earth,
- 33:19Speaker 1: they emit a mu on. They turned into a muon,
- 33:22Speaker 1: And what we want to do is capture that muan.
- 33:24Speaker 1: And in order to do that, you need a really
- 33:27Speaker 1: large detector. You need like a cubic mile of detector
- 33:31Speaker 1: in order to measure the speed of these things. So
- 33:33Speaker 1: what they do is they use a cubic mile of ice.
- 33:37Speaker 1: They go down to Antarctica where there's like miles and
- 33:39Speaker 1: miles of ice, and they embed camera. They drill these
- 33:42Speaker 1: crazy long mile long holes and they drop down a
- 33:46Speaker 1: string of cameras and then they just pour water over
- 33:49Speaker 1: it and it freezes up and they never see them again.
- 33:52Speaker 1: But they have a one mile cube. It's like a
- 33:55Speaker 1: huge ice cube and they have all these strings of
- 33:58Speaker 1: cameras drill down into it, and they see muans coming
- 34:02Speaker 1: up from inside the Earth and emitting tcharenk Off radiation
- 34:06Speaker 1: inside the ice. What it's like does a flash? Does
- 34:10Speaker 1: see a flash? Or they'll see the ice glow. They
- 34:12Speaker 1: see this ring, right, because trink Off radiation is like
- 34:15Speaker 1: a sonic boom. It comes off in this circle. So
- 34:17Speaker 1: you see this ring of blue come through the ice,
- 34:20Speaker 1: and you can use that to measure the direction to
- 34:22Speaker 1: the muan and it's speed. You're saying, these come from
- 34:24Speaker 1: neutrinos that create the muans. The neutrinos come from who
- 34:28Speaker 1: knows where, and then they pass through the Earth the
- 34:31Speaker 1: sort of like upwards, going through the Earth, and then
- 34:34Speaker 1: in the Earth they make these muans. And then we
- 34:36Speaker 1: see the muans in the ice through this Sharenkov radiation
- 34:39Speaker 1: because there these are going then faster than light. Yeah,
- 34:42Speaker 1: they're really high energy muans and they're going faster than
- 34:44Speaker 1: light does in the ice and they make these crazy
- 34:47Speaker 1: blue glow. And so this is a technique we use
- 34:49Speaker 1: in particle physics all the time to spot really fast
- 34:52Speaker 1: particles because they make this special radiation and the angle
- 34:56Speaker 1: of the of the light that comes off them tells
- 34:58Speaker 1: you exactly the la city of the particle because you
- 35:01Speaker 1: can tell how fast it's going by when it hits
- 35:05Speaker 1: different cameras, Like you actually see an image of it. Yeah,
- 35:08Speaker 1: you can see an image. You can see the circle
- 35:10Speaker 1: that it emits, and you know the particle was going
- 35:12Speaker 1: right through the center of the circle emits this cone
- 35:14Speaker 1: of blue light and the angle of that cone tells
- 35:17Speaker 1: you the velocity of the particle, and of course the
- 35:19Speaker 1: particle went through the center, so you know the direction,
- 35:22Speaker 1: and so you get these awesome three D images. And
- 35:25Speaker 1: I just love the idea of like droolling down a
- 35:28Speaker 1: mile into ice and dropping cameras into it. Makes it
- 35:32Speaker 1: feel better about dropping your iPhone in your toilet. Scientists
- 35:38Speaker 1: have done much much worse. Yeah, that's a pretty cool experience,
- 35:43Speaker 1: which you maybe get into Antarctic signs. It seems like
- 35:46Speaker 1: they do a lot down there, and you can actually
- 35:48Speaker 1: even see churnk of radiation with your own eyes. So
- 35:51Speaker 1: I have to be a mile down into the Antarctic ice,
- 35:54Speaker 1: you don't. You can just have to get lucky because
- 35:57Speaker 1: the material in your eyeballs also the same property photons
- 36:02Speaker 1: go through its slower than high energy particles. So if
- 36:05Speaker 1: a muon passes through this vitreous humor, this goop that's
- 36:09Speaker 1: inside your eyeball, you will see a flash of blue.
- 36:12Speaker 1: Really if a muan, If a fast moving muon goes
- 36:16Speaker 1: into my eye. If I took a mu on gun
- 36:18Speaker 1: and I shot a beam of muans into your eyeballs,
- 36:20Speaker 1: which I will not do, but you would see a
- 36:23Speaker 1: blue glow in your eyes, you would be Dr Manhattan basically,
- 36:27Speaker 1: or you you would look like Dr Benhanton. Please put
- 36:33Speaker 1: on some clothes, Daniel, But I'm definitely that cut. I mean, yeah,
- 36:36Speaker 1: at least those black, nice black shorts that he speedoes
- 36:40Speaker 1: that he wears. Yeah, so you can see churnk rverdiation
- 36:45Speaker 1: with your own eyes. Now, it's not very common, but
- 36:47Speaker 1: it can be done. Wow, I never thought about that.
- 36:50Speaker 1: I guess the light that's hitting the back of my
- 36:53Speaker 1: eye is not going as fast as it could be. No,
- 36:56Speaker 1: it's slowed down by the goop in your eyeballs. If
- 36:59Speaker 1: your eyeballs had vacuums in them, that you'd see things
- 37:02Speaker 1: are tying a bit sooner. Right, Yeah, I'm getting an
- 37:06Speaker 1: unnecessary delay in my information here. I feel like there's
- 37:09Speaker 1: a startup idea somewhere there. Bit faster, that's right. Now,
- 37:16Speaker 1: get your what's your Netflix shows? A little bit faster
- 37:20Speaker 1: technically by inserting this bag in your eye, phall, it's
- 37:26Speaker 1: a good thing. This is not a medical advice show, right,
- 37:29Speaker 1: and everything will look less blue. Also, yeah, that's true. Yeah,
- 37:34Speaker 1: all right. Well that's a pretty interesting phenomenon. And it's
- 37:37Speaker 1: pretty interesting to know that the laws of physics have loopholes,
- 37:41Speaker 1: like who knows what else can have a loop loophole?
- 37:43Speaker 1: That's right. So come by to Daniel Whiteson, physics attorney
- 37:46Speaker 1: at law, and I will figure out how to accomplish
- 37:49Speaker 1: what it is you want to get done without breaking
- 37:52Speaker 1: any laws of physics. That's right. To go down to
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- 38:00Speaker 1: hole immigration attorneys, Light particle physicists. Do you have an
- 38:06Speaker 1: undocumented black hole in your backyard? We can help you.
- 38:09Speaker 1: Have you been in a physics accident, even if you
- 38:14Speaker 1: were at fault, we will we will speculate about the causality.
- 38:20Speaker 1: There was a delay that now the light got to
- 38:22Speaker 1: his eyeball, it's not his fault. It's a pre existing
- 38:26Speaker 1: condition of the universe. All right. Well, it's pretty cool,
- 38:30Speaker 1: and who knows what other loopholes are will discover in
- 38:33Speaker 1: the future. That's right. This should inspire you because if
- 38:35Speaker 1: there's something you want to get done in the universe
- 38:37Speaker 1: and you thought it was impossible, there might be a
- 38:40Speaker 1: way to work around the laws of physics. All right,
- 38:42Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining us, guys and gals
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