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Donald Trump and Undertaker Talk Pro Wrestling and What’s at Stake in 2024 _ Six Feet Under #36 · Gil I Am

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  Speaker 1: How long are you married.
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  Speaker 2: I have been married for fourteen years.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, this is your second marriage.
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  Speaker 2: Who counts numbers? Numbers?
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  Speaker 1: The second numbers a second. You can cut that part
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  Speaker 1: of it. This sounds like you's going to get a
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  Speaker 1: little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I think, you know, I mean, I think you could
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  Speaker 2: relate like we both have kind of you know, maybe
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  Speaker 2: I'll kicked our coverage. The last time I saw you
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  Speaker 2: was that WrestleMania twenty nine Met Life. You were I
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  Speaker 2: have to I got to, I have to kind of apologize.
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  Speaker 2: You were there. My family was there, right, and they'd
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  Speaker 2: come to you and asked if you would move one
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  Speaker 2: rollback so that my family could come watch my match.
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  Speaker 2: And you were gracious enough, and you did. You were
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  Speaker 2: gracious enough to to move back. Well, the problem was,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, there's a there's an iconic picture of
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  Speaker 2: I'm actually laid out on a table and see him
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  Speaker 2: bugs about to drop an elbow on me. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: looking at this picture and one of my dearest closest
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  Speaker 2: friends was sitting with my family. His name's David. He
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  Speaker 2: works for Georgia Pacific. And I'm looking at this picture
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  Speaker 2: and I see him, and then I can see you
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  Speaker 2: trying to peek. He's got an enormous head, and I
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  Speaker 2: can see I can see you try to trying to
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  Speaker 2: peek around him, and I was like, are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 2: You couldn't You couldn't squat down enough so mister Trump
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  Speaker 2: could see see the match. But anyway, I have to
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  Speaker 2: apologize for the enormity of my one of my closest friends.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the big thing we had the Battle of the Billionaires,
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  Speaker 1: and that was with Events and me and you know,
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  Speaker 1: we tried to wrestler. He had. We had two good
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  Speaker 1: guys and they wrestled, and fortunately my guy won and
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  Speaker 1: the loser had the hair shaved. I said, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to have my hair shave, and but we actually
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  Speaker 1: actually wrestled a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: You're little pretty, you know.
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  Speaker 1: It was a pretty famous thing. But I think it
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  Speaker 1: has your all time record for for paper, view buys everything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was a huge It was a
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  Speaker 2: huge event.
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  Speaker 1: It was a big one. But you went down just
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  Speaker 1: before me. And the entrance into the ring is the
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  Speaker 1: greatest entrance into any arena that I've seen, Okay, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to even be topped. The
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  Speaker 1: whole thing of the music, the whole deal. And he
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  Speaker 1: and by the way, he's a dynamic guy. When he
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  Speaker 1: does this, he's very you know, slow and easy, and
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  Speaker 1: you know you're supposed to act well, you're supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be a dead man, so you know you're acting sort
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  Speaker 1: of dead. And it's one of the great And that's
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  Speaker 1: why I'm surprised, because you're a quick guy. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you're you wove. But in the ring, he just sort
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  Speaker 1: of moved around and you left just before us, and
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  Speaker 1: the place was going crazy. I said, that's a very
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  Speaker 1: tough act to follow. And I didn't realize how big
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  Speaker 1: you were. I figured you were big, but not that big.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm standing with Vince and they had other wrestlers
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  Speaker 1: in the rooms, like essentially the green room up high right,
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  Speaker 1: and you walked by me. You said hello, sir, And
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  Speaker 1: I said, this guy is really big. How tall are you?
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  Speaker 2: By the way right now? Probably i've lost a little
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  Speaker 2: bit through the years, but six eight, Yeah, I've just
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  Speaker 2: been a little bit compressed through the years.
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  Speaker 1: You get compressed, Well, that's normal. They say you get
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  Speaker 1: compressed on your feet get bigger. Did you ever hear
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  Speaker 1: of that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I've always had big feet. Yeah, my dad used
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  Speaker 2: to have My dad used to tell me, he said,
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  Speaker 2: you'd have been tall boy if you had to give
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  Speaker 2: up so much for foundations.
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  Speaker 1: But I said, this guy is really big. And you
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  Speaker 1: were wrestling a good guy that night, you remember, I
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  Speaker 1: do remember her, a good special guy and yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: it was great. But I said, how do we beat
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  Speaker 1: this Vince? What are you doing? Why don't we go before?
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  Speaker 2: Then?
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  Speaker 3: Wish you go before?
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  Speaker 1: But we had a h that was a great evening.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it said, I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 1: so has, I think it so has your record.
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  Speaker 2: It was, Yeah, it was a it was a big night.
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  Speaker 2: It was. It was in Detroit. Yeah, and uh, I
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  Speaker 2: have a.
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  Speaker 1: Son six nine. Can you imagine I have a son
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  Speaker 1: who's an installer. Then, if you say so, you were
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  Speaker 1: probably at super height six nine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was probably right there at six nine.
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  Speaker 1: So six nine like three sixty, uh.
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  Speaker 2: Three thirty. I kind of topped out at three thirty.
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  Speaker 2: That was uh. I felt like that was mine And
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  Speaker 2: what do you wait?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 2: I'm probably three three or five right now?
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  Speaker 1: Wow? Yeah, that's not bad, right.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's it's easier. I'm trying not to replace any more. Joints.
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  Speaker 1: So as a wrestler, you really lose a lot of joints, Doutu,
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  Speaker 1: You really.
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  Speaker 2: Have, Yeah, I mean it's the body's not made to
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  Speaker 2: take that on that and then you know, most people
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  Speaker 2: don't realize the schedule that we kept back then too,
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  Speaker 2: which was on the road over two hundred days a year,
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  Speaker 2: and that's in the ring.
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  Speaker 1: So so how do you I've always wondered, because it's
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  Speaker 1: whether it's you know, fun or you know, entertainment, or
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  Speaker 1: you're still getting slammed around?
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Does that ring take great absorption?
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  Speaker 2: In other words, Well, it's funny when when Vince started
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  Speaker 2: getting in the ring and mixing it up a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: the rings got a little bit softer. Yeah, right before that,
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  Speaker 2: it would be just like taking a fall on this floor.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they were really hard.
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  Speaker 1: Well how did you do that? So that was wow,
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  Speaker 1: that's a yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You just it's a crazy thing and you just condition
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  Speaker 2: your body to it where you don't even after you
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  Speaker 2: do it so much, you just don't even think about it.
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  Speaker 1: How often did it I mean, I know you're supposed
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  Speaker 1: to interview me, but I find it very anxious. How
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  Speaker 1: often did it happen where somebody gets really angry. In
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  Speaker 1: other words, you hit a guy accidentally the wrong way
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  Speaker 1: or something, and and he's had it. And these are
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  Speaker 1: tough guys to start off with, you know, they're not babies.
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  Speaker 1: How often did it happened where you're fighting somebody and
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  Speaker 1: you made a mistake and you really got and he
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  Speaker 1: gets angry and he and he really goes at you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, back in the day, like so I
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  Speaker 2: started with with Vincent nineteen ninety, but before that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in the late eighties and stuff like that, guys were
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  Speaker 2: really salty and they didn't they didn't take too many
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  Speaker 2: You know, you're supposed to be a professional, and usually
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  Speaker 2: guys would you think, well, if he hit me like that,
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  Speaker 2: then you know it was for a reason. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: you'd get a they'd mix it up in the ring
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  Speaker 2: for a little bit, and then they'd get back in
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  Speaker 2: the locker round.
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  Speaker 1: What happened the guys would run into the ring and
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  Speaker 1: stop it, right I was you had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: guys running.
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  Speaker 2: Into the ring.
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  Speaker 1: Usually usually meant that it was.
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  Speaker 2: A probably Usually when that happens, it's part of the
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  Speaker 2: it's part of the show when when guys.
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  Speaker 1: Are actually stop somebody from going nuts up and really
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  Speaker 1: you know, really starting a real fight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably losing their job. Yeah, I mean you have
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  Speaker 2: to you know, what what we do is hard enough.
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  Speaker 2: But if you go in there and start taking liberties
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  Speaker 2: with somebody and and are starting trouble and having fights, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you're not gonna be around long. I mean it's you
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  Speaker 2: have to have a cohesive unit of guys. You don't
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  Speaker 2: have to like each other, you know, I think you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's like politics. You know, you don't have to like
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  Speaker 2: each other, but you have to be professional enough to
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  Speaker 2: work with each other.
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  Speaker 1: Did you did you like some of these guys.
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  Speaker 2: A lot or not?
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? You know a lot of the guys I'm I'm
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  Speaker 2: really close with. And then there's some guys that I
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  Speaker 2: don't care much for. And but it's it's it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of like the way I wish politics would get back to.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I may not agree with you, but I
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  Speaker 2: can I can share a dressing room with you, I
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  Speaker 2: can shake your hand, and we can do business. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And that's you know, that's how it is that there's
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  Speaker 2: some guys that you kind of naturally, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: gravitate towards and become friends with and I had a
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  Speaker 2: group of guys that we ran years.
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  Speaker 1: Have you done it?
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  Speaker 2: So I had a in ring career of right at
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  Speaker 2: thirty four thirty five years.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing, and you're still in one piece.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in one piece. I got some new I got
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  Speaker 2: some new parts, I got some new neest.
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  Speaker 1: To every wrestler end up essentially having to get new parts.
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  Speaker 2: At some point. Usually you're going to have something that
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  Speaker 2: needs to be replaced. There's very few guys that get
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  Speaker 2: out unscathed. And you know that's.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we get hurt so badly that you basically can't
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  Speaker 1: continue the match and you got to be like literally
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  Speaker 1: helped out and carried out.
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  Speaker 2: It happens. It happens, and uh, it's just part of
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  Speaker 2: what most people don't realize as president, is that in
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  Speaker 2: all the ware entertainment, but in any given match, you're
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  Speaker 2: two inches away from something really catastrophic happens. And then
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  Speaker 2: when you when you figure the amount of dates per
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  Speaker 2: year that you that you work, I mean that really
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  Speaker 2: goes up exponentially.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the risk factor, So you'd work two hundred
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  Speaker 1: days a year.
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  Speaker 2: I had an eight year stretch where I averaged about
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  Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Days a year, and that you can you can just
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  Speaker 1: keep going.
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  Speaker 2: You just kind of get in that zone. Your body
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  Speaker 2: kind of gets used to the trauma and you don't
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  Speaker 2: feel right. Actually if you if you go home for
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  Speaker 2: too long, you kind of get restless and your body
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  Speaker 2: feels too good. I got to go back to work.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great Well, you had a great career.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: I really people love you. That's why. So I heard,
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  Speaker 1: they said, and I heard you were a fan. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to say, but I heard you were like
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  Speaker 1: a political fan of mine. And I appreciated that. But
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  Speaker 1: I said, he is. He was such an incredible athlete entertainer,
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  Speaker 1: because it's an entertainer. You have a lot of great athletes.
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  Speaker 1: They can't entertain you might as well forget it in
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  Speaker 1: your sport.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a there's a lot of And that's what
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  Speaker 2: most people don't really grasp. I mean, you can be
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  Speaker 2: a great athlete and not excel. You've got to have
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  Speaker 2: the You've got to have the whole the whole package.
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  Speaker 2: You have to basically, and I think you've been a
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  Speaker 2: master of this. You've got to make people care. You
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  Speaker 2: got to make them care one way or another, either
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  Speaker 2: they love you or they hate you.
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  Speaker 1: So who do you think outside of you? Who do
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  Speaker 1: you think was the greatest combination of athlete, entertainer, et cetera,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera. Who was who was the greatest of the
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  Speaker 1: couple of greatest that you've seen?
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  Speaker 2: My goodness, there's stone cold Steve Austin, he was up there.
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  Speaker 2: You'd have to you'd have to put Hulk Hogan in there.
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  Speaker 2: And you know Rick Flair. You know, those are guys
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  Speaker 2: that just kind of off the top of my head, could
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  Speaker 2: captivate you with what they had to say, deliver performance
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  Speaker 2: in the ring. And then now you.
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  Speaker 1: Were much too young Haystacks Calhoun, Right, oh yeah, right,
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  Speaker 1: did you ever you were too young? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a little before my time.
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  Speaker 1: But he weighed like five hundred.
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  Speaker 2: He was a big man. He was a big man.
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  Speaker 1: He was a big one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see, you had a lot of beauty.
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  Speaker 2: I had my share of giants. You know that. Vince
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  Speaker 2: used to feed them all to me when I first
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  Speaker 2: came up, Like if there was a giant, there was
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  Speaker 2: a monster. They were coming my way first, and and
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  Speaker 2: and uh, if I could work with him, then he
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  Speaker 2: might let then he would let Hogan or somebody else work.
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  Speaker 1: How's it doing? Now? Are there any great stars? Now?
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're kind of getting into uh an era again.
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  Speaker 2: We had kind of a turnover where my generation moved
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: out and uh but we've got guys like Roman Reigns
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  Speaker 2: who just had an incredible title reign. We've got another
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: young guy by the name of Gnther who's going to
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: be really special. Cody Rhodes is out there, the son
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: of Dusty Roads. Uh so, yeah, the business itself is
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: in a in a really, really, really good spot. And
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: then you know, we just had the the merger with
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  Speaker 2: UFC and c KO. Oh my goodness.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been Do you know Daniel White?
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know, Daniel.
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  Speaker 1: Will you be working with Dan?
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: No, we're there separate companies.
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  Speaker 1: But Under who's running it?
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  Speaker 2: Who's uh Ari? Emanuel is the Yeah, he's the uh,
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  Speaker 2: he's the big dog, and uh Dana runs the u
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  Speaker 2: f C side, and then Nick con uh he runs
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  Speaker 2: he runs the W side.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: It's a very different kind of a thing, but very similar.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: Actually, right, it is it really is?
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: You know, do revenues there versus UFC?
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  Speaker 2: Is it my revenue? I mean right now, it is crazy.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: They are selling out your revenue.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Your your revenue, my revenue meaning for the for the
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: rest oh yeah.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: For wrestlings, it's doing it's doing crazy better than ever. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: absolutely incredible. It really is, uh sold out everywhere and
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: we're doing a lot of international stuff now merchandise.
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  Speaker 1: Does that compare with the UFC? Then in terms of revenue?
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  Speaker 2: I don't really. I don't know their numbers very well,
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  Speaker 2: but I know that the that the stock is doing
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  Speaker 2: is doing really well, and the company as a whole
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  Speaker 2: is doing really well.
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  Speaker 3: It outperforms everyone on social media as well.
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  Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's always the w W.
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  Speaker 3: Social media outperforms NFL, MLB, really, NBA everyone. Wow, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: over one hundred million.
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  Speaker 1: These are the characters and other those these are the people.
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  Speaker 1: Like your social media is very.
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  Speaker 2: Big, right, I guess I got it. I'm not. You know,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: is my social media it's pretty big.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, it's the biggest on social media.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: The Rock, oh, the Rock is yeah. Dwayne Johnson, you know.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: He was great. I never thought he liked me, and
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: I felt badly because I think he's a terrific guy.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: And then Dana White said, when I was shot a
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: shot to the year. You may have heard about it.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: It's gonna ask you.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Rock called, uh Daniel said, I want to have his number.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: I want to have his number. What he did is
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: it's sort of incredible. He considered it bravery.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know too.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I considered it like what's going on here? But it
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: was very nice. Actually, the Rock. So you might mention
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: that I said that, do you speak to him occasionally?
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: I saw him.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I saw him in April. He's he's doing Yeah, he
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: is a he's a workaholic. There's no dust settles on him.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: He's got his hands and a lot of different things.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, I mean, you're a billionaire,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: You've got a uh, beautiful wife, very intelligent, you've got
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: a wonderful family. You got people shooting at you. You
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: don't have to do this, that's true. I mean, I
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: don't don't you don't have to do that?
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: What am I doing? Am I doing it?
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: But but you are? And I mean I think you know,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: people get in the media and everything else, they get
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: everything so twisted. But it takes a special it takes
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: a special human being to sit on a podium, take
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: a bullet and get up bleeding with your hand raised
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: in the air. Yeah, and let you let them know that.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: You know, the moment right now is bigger than that. Yeah,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: you know, I just I don't know. I mean, what
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: possesses you to put your life on the line when
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: you don't you don't have to. You have a wonderful life,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: and you've got a tremendous legacy beyond that.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I sometimes joke with the crowds because we get very
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: big crowds. We had one hundred and seven thousand and Butler,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: that's where the accident took place. We had fifty five thousand.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: When we went back a couple of months later, we
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: had just the other you know, two weeks ago we
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: had one hundred and seven thousand. We had one hundred
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: and one thousand in California and incredible three days ago.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Big crowds, big creds, and you know, abnormally be because
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: no politician ever had these crowds. I don't even know
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: what it is exactly. I can't explain it. Why Why
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: am I getting? You know, it's like why, But I
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: sometimes say, I don't have to be here with you.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I could be in Monte Carlo and the beaches. I
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: got to have everything. I don't need this, but I'd
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: rather be in Butler, Pennsylvania with you, you know. And it's
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: true actually because look, I have a lot of wealthy
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: friends and they go to these places and you know,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: most of them aren't happy and all that stuff. But
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: you know, I feel I have a purpose, and that's
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: to rebuild our country. This country is doing so badly.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: The border. I mean, I don't know what your politics
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: are or is, but your politics just common sense. We
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: have murderers pouring into our country, we have drug dealers
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: pouring and just about there's many things wrong, but just
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the border. I think the border is worse than inflation.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's the biggest thing to me.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: It's you know, like we're now in I don't know
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: when this is going on, and I wish you luck
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: with it. I know you're going to get high ratings.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I used to think I was a big person, but
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I don't feel so big standing next to this guy. Well,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: but my son would feel better. Although it's not quite
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: as wide as you, I will say he will be.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: He will be some day. But I feel I have
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: an obligation to do this. I had four great years.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: We had the best economy we've ever had as a country.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: We had the strongest borders we've ever had had recorded history.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I guess they might have been very strong a thousand
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: years ago or something, but we had the strongest borders.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: We were hitting on all. I rebuilt the military, got
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: the biggest tax cuts in history, got the biggest regulation cuts,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: and is really doing great. And then we had a
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: crazy election where I did much better than the first time.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: And if I didn't have that, I wouldn't I probably
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have done this because it showed that there's a
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: lot of love out there. Got hit with COVID, you know,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the whole thing, the whole world got hit with COVID,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: which has had the China virus to be exacked, but
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: and got hit hard. It's never been any like it.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Who would have ever thought the word pandemic. I heard
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the word, but you never thought it was like a
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: modern day you figure nowadays, you take a shot and
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: you're fine, right, it goes, everyone is fine. But we
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: had a you know, it's an ancient form of a
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: disease in twenty seventeen that killed one hundred million people.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: And we could have lost one hundred million people do
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: pretty easily. We lost many millions of people all over
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the world. So I got hit with that. We had
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: a crazy election, which was I won't get into it
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: because I don't want to get you in any controversy
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: because you liked no controversy. That election was there's.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Not too many there's not too many people trying to
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: argue with this guy.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: That election. That's good. Nobody's going to say, let's take
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: it outside right now. But so I got more votes
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: than any sitting president in the history of the country
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: by millions, right, And they say we didn't win. You know,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: it was a very but it was a COVID thing. Look,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: you couldn't get security. Nobody wanted to go out. Big
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: guys like you would say, I'm not going to beat cigarette.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: You couldn't get anybody. It was like people didn't want
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: to die, right, it was a bed. It was right
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: in the middle of that. And now I'm running again
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: and I'm leading, and I beat Biden and they saw
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: he was getting beaten. It's sort of like it's a
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: little unfair and it's sort of not really what democracy
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: is all about. But Biden got fourteen million votes. He
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: deserved to, you know, run it out and see and
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: they took it away. It actually took away his presidency.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: If you think about it, it was a They called
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: it a coup, but it was. They actually took away
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: his presidency and they gave it to this one and
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: this one is worse than him, and we're leading now,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: but we have to see if we can do it.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: We've got to do it with him. I was leading
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: by a lot. It was sort of over and they
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: went to him and they said, you're not going to win.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: And when we're going to replace you, think of that.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: That's a no. They took it away. Okay, now think
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: of me. I spend one hundred and fifty million hours
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: that we're raging. We're doing great, We're against Biden. We
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: have the debate. It was a good debate. He goes
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: down and now I have to fight somebody else. That's
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: like you're going into the ring and you're beating the
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: hell out of somebody and they call up and they say,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: get that guy out of the ing and or put somebody
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: else in for a right now, Right, you got to
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: fight two guys instead of it.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: So we have.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: A second one that we started. Well, no, but the
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: whole focus was on this one man because it's a
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: one man, you know, it's one thing. And then the
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: debate was like a big deal and that's over and
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you think you have it won, and all of a
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: sudden they replace and then the new person always has
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: a honeymoon period, so she got six weeks of a
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: honeymoon period. Everybody thought good. They didn't think good of
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: her before. In fact, she was the last of thirteen
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: people that was going to be chosen. But they want
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: to be politically correct, so they picked this person and
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: she's not qualified. She got no votes. You know, she
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: dropped out. You know, she ran against Biden and she
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: drummed down. It's got no votes. They had thirteen people.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: She was number thirteen, and they picked her, and I
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: guess that's okay. I don't know the process is pretty
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: pretty crazy. You know, when they say threat to democracy,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: that's really a threat to democracy. I'm not a threat
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: to democracy.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: That is, Okuesse. You need to ask Joe Biden what
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: a threat to democracy is at this one.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I was an angry guy.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: It's mister president. You know, with the fact that you
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: know in the polls right now, You've got Fox, you
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: got seing in, you got all these different polls out there,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: nobody that really knows what to trust and what not
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: to trust. But there's polls out there, like with Polymarket,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: where people could literally bet on the actual election, and
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: it's from the people. You're up by twenty percent. Now
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: a month ago you were only up bout ten percent.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: And there's been over two point one billion dollars that
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: has been put on you to win this election from
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: the people, and you've tweeted about it. You've been talking
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: about poly Market. Why why do you think there's been
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: such a swing and uh this and and and the
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: odds right now of you winning over Vice President Harris.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they got to know her, that she's incompetent,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: that she's a Marxist, you could say communists. A lot
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: of people don't know what a Marxist is. But they say,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: could you use another word? They said, how about communists?
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're a big communist fan. No, what
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: do you think.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: I don't think I hang out with I don't think you.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I'm from Texas. We don't have those there.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know when I walked when I first met you,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: you were walking down to the getting ready to walk
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: down to the ring, and I was surprised at how
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: big you were. And the other wrestlers were in the
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: room and I was going to be following him, and
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: they all called him take her, and they said it
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: was sort of cool. They said, have a good time Taker,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: that we're talking about Taker. I said, that's a cool
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: name they call him. They don't call them undertaker. They say,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: you know your friends. The other wrestlers are sitting around
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: waiting and they're saying, have a good time, Takers. I will, indeed,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I will. That's pretty cool.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the lot either call me Taker or dead man.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Those are a couple of my men. But yeah, thank
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• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Draft Kings. I was going to not to go back
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: to a sore subject, but back to Butler. I was
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: curious if you were going to have maybe a portrait
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: made out of the chart hanging on the wall that marlago.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: You know, there have been so many portraits and some
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: are genius and some are rab but it's got to
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: be the most. You know, Look, it's amazing because I'm alive.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: It's not supposed to be it's not supposed to be
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: a life for iconic, but they say it's us. I
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: think Iwo Jima is right there. Yeah. Absolutely, they took
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of bullets putting up the flag, right. But
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I will I will say that I have never seen
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: anything like it. I get paintings every day for paintings,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: some are really good and some you know, aren't good,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: some are not great artists. But I've never said anything
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: like it. Actually I had that with my munk shot,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: but to a lesser extent. The munk shot was big,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the mug shot. You know, I had the bunk shot.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: So you know who was who was number one was
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Elvis Presley. Did you know that he was interested for something?
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: And that was the biggest, And then Frank Sinatra was second.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: A lot of big munk shots. He was. He got
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: into a brawl with I had to do with the
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: booze and women.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: They'll do it every time, and they can do it
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: every time.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: It's a bad combination. That'll do it.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: That'll do it. Never for you.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Are you a drinker at all?
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I've been known to partake in and a drink or too.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Not not as much now as I used to. But uh,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I've pulled it back a little.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: So we have. We had that crazy munk shot. And
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: as soon as I saw, they said, that's really unusual.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: When I went in, I said, I wonder to do
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I smile and say screw you? Or do I just
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: act angry, and I thought the smile wasn't appropriate. A
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: lot of people said, you know what you do, just smile.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: And then so I was scowling, and he knows all
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: about scowling. That's what he did. He scowled.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I made a career out of scowl his career out
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: of scowling.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: But anyway, so I did. But that thing went crazy.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: It was four hundred million, four hundred million hits. But
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: this picture, I think is even maybe bigger. Right now.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I see myself being shot every single day, no matter when.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Now you I just left. I was watching something and
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: they have this picture on the whole act, you know,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: the whole thing where you know, from the time you
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: get shot, you know, and I'm following my hand down
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: and somebody obviously is screaming, get down. It's bullets, right
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: because it otherwise it's almost too perfect because of what
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: you followed it. But I look at my head. There's
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: blood all over my head. I said, that's either the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I guess mosquito in history or I got you.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: You know, Butler's got some big mosquitoes, right, Butler's yeah.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Probably miss. What was the conversation with your family afterwards?
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Though?
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Because that's a scary situation.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I knew. I knew that. It's funny, you know, this
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: sir real experience kind of thing. I don't know if
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: you've ever experienced it, but a lot of people do.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Where something happens, it's so big, And don't forget, I
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: had thousands and more than you have in wrestling matches,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: you know, times three if you fill up in a
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: you know, I had thousands of people out there. So
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: number one, it's sort of embarrassing. You know, you're speaking
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're getting down on the floor.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: A lot of amazing things happened. Number one, the the
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: you could go them fans, but the patriots, they were patriots.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: They didn't move, and there were a lot of shots
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: for at least eight, right, it's a lot, and the
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: crowd control expert said that one in particular set it's
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: amazing because when they hear bullets, say no bullets, the
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: fans break up and they stampede, and they really stampede
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: and people get killed from nobody left. You saw that
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: with a small group behind me. You know, the group
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: behind me was relatively small. The people were all out there,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: thousands of you couldn't even see the end of it.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: And when I got hit, I went down. And then
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Secret Service was very brave, I have to say. They
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: were all jumping on top and the bullets were flying
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: right at him, and then he got taken out by
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: the sniper. The sniper got him from a long distance.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: One shot. Amazing. He doesn't get him. You got a
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: lot of people dead. But the Secret Service sniper was amazing.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: And we believe also the local police hit the barrel
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: of the rifle and splinter the hell out of it.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: But if they don't get him, and they got him,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: they got him. But if they don't get him, we
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: have a lot of lot of dead. We lost one
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: and two were very badly hurt. We thought they were
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: both going to be gone, and they they both made it.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Great doctors, great doctors, you know, country type doctors. Right,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: they were great. You couldn't have had any better. They
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: saved them that they're they're good. But it was surprisingly
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: you know, when I think back on it, I was
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: on the floor. I had blood pouring all over the place.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: You would know this better than anybody in the world. Probably.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: They say when your ear gets damaged, the blood it's
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: the bloodiest thing, and it has to do with cartilage.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: If your ear gets cut or damage, it's very bloody.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: And you know you probably yeah, I've had split yeah, yeah,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: more so than like anything else, which is surprising. But
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I was loaded up with blood and but I was
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: down and they thought I got hit numerous times all
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: over the place, and I said, nope, I got the ear.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I want to get up, Get me up. I'm screaming
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: ware my shoes because my shoes got doctor when they
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: when they jumped, I mean they hit pretty hard. They
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: were there fast, they were very brave and I don't
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: know how that happened, but my shoes got ripped off.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: So uh, but it wasn't a surreal experience. It was
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I knew everything that was happening. It was amazing. Did
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: you see the one on my face was just off
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: the ground, and the bloods boor and all that. I mean,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: it's just some crazy shots. This was not supposed to
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: be my life. This is supposed to.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Be I don't mind. I don't mind bleeding. I'd just
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: rather it not come from bullets.
• 33:34
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  Speaker 1: He's going to be shocked when he sees his ready.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to get that big.
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  Speaker 2: Wife doesn't like him.
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  Speaker 3: His wife doesn't want him to get back in the ring.
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  Speaker 3: So we've got to get these ratings.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Are you either do There's there's no chance.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: There's no chance.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I almost feel like I'm doing the interview because it's
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  Speaker 1: interesting to me. Where's a big man, Where's O? Where's
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  Speaker 1: our next.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Big rad machine over there?
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Going to be the next governor?
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: How did you become such a fan of wrestling?
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I love sports, and I knew Vince this and that.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I guess it goes back a long way. I held
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: three or four wrestled Bania.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Three and four were I think, and they.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Were good ones. Yes, they were really good ones. It
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: was hot as a pistol. Then it's sort of always
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: been hot, but I think it was really I mean
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: it was really hot. And I don't think I did
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: the first one, but I did maybe three and.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Four three and for the only Yeah, it was the
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: only time that it's been the same place.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Two years ago, and for in fact, it was so good,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I wanted the second one, right but h and it
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: was a tremendous success. It was great. And really, Dana
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: White and Vince are really two guys there. They're very
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: unique people. Then is incredible and and and different. You know,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: it's different kinds. It's actually a much different product in
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: a certain way, even though it's you know, no it is, yes, yeah,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: it's a much different product. But but they sort of
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: have some qualities that are very very simil But Dana's
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: done an unbelievable job and Vince Vince preceded him by
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: a little bit, but boy, what a job he did.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he really did create just a global juggernaut with
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: WW And.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: So the combination sounds like it's a good combination.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: So far, it's been. It's really been amazing, and I
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: think they've only really scratched the surface to you know,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: how far this is going to go.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, well, Linda McMahon, I picked who really helped
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Vince a lot over the years. You know, people, a
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: lot of people don't know that, and she's a fantastic woman.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: She's been a big supporter from the moment, you know,
• 38:41
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• 38:45
  Speaker 1: head of Small Businesses, which is big business basically a
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: small business administration, and she did a fantastic job. Everybody
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: loves her, special woman, And I know she was involved
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: with the w w E. So it used to be
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: WWF right, and they just couldn't get that name back,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: which was amazing, right they could. Well do you think
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: it made it a WWE? W W Now, I guess
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: with time, it's ok with time, But it was hard
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: to get used to it at first.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it really was. I just think it is. You know,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: he got into the big deal with the I think
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: it was the World Wildlife On and I just think
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: he was like he sees the moment and said, you
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: know what, it's time for It's time for a little
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: bit of change. And it wasn't worth fighting it in
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: the court and tying all that up.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: And they were being absolutely very tough.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't I don't. I don't think anybody
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: was going to confuse World Wrestling Federation with the World
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Wildlife On. I mean they were wait, I mean it
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: was just semantics. I think did he lose that case?
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: He just he just chose not to. He just let
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: it go.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: And but I remember at the beginning, it was so
• 39:58
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• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah really yeah, because it originally it was the WWWF
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: and then they took a W off and then it
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: was it was like a whole new facelift kind of
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: a deal with the WWE. We changed our branding and
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: the way everything looks. So it ended up working out
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: for the for the better.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: So tell me what are you doing here with this stuff? So,
• 40:24
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• 40:27
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• 40:31
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• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I really think you've done a great job. What is this?
• 40:36
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• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Platform, it's on my podcast. This guy here, I don't know,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: eight years ago comes. He works for a veteran owned
• 40:47
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• 40:52
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• 40:55
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• 40:58
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• 41:02
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• 41:05
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• 41:09
  Speaker 1: So you know all about the Trump apparel.
• 41:10
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• 41:13
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but we teamed up with this guy used to
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• 41:26
  Speaker 2: So we've known each other for what seven eight years?
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: And he kind of he says, you know, you got
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: this platform, like I wrestled. I'm a wrestler. I did
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: it for you know, over thirty years. And he's and
• 41:41
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• 41:45
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• 41:48
  Speaker 2: was the same way. She was like you, how long
• 41:51
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  Speaker 1: Yes, this is your second marriage.
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  Speaker 2: Who countsers numbers?
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: The second numbers the second You can cut that part.
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  Speaker 1: So much so much for that question. Yeah, I'll take
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  Speaker 2: I just I know you got to have that. I
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  Speaker 2: know you got that tough, tough guy persona and that bravado.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: But I think, uh, you know, this is good, this
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: is fun, and I think you know what you've done,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: You've made politics fun again. Yeah, And I just think
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: some people get caught up in the fact that I
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: think they look at politics now kind of like a
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: wrestling story and they can't separate, they can't separate reality.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Well it's so interesting because and I can't explain exactly why,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: but so we'll go to places and have one hundred
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: thousand people show up and I don't have a card
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: and I'm not a wrestler. And when I felt your arm,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I said, I wouldn't have been of for a good wrestler.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Would you get big strong arms on top of everything else.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: But but you know, and I'll get a crowd of
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: one hundred thousand people coming about politics. You know, it's
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: if Ronald Reagan came back and he went to you know,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: some of the places that I go to, he'd have
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty people or three hundred and four
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: and that's very very good, you know. And they do
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: it in a ballroom someplace and I'm getting like fifty sixty,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: one hundred thousand people. It's crazy, and it's it's really
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: it's like a love of the country because you know,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: it's hope, it's something going on, it's something very amazing.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: So now we're in the middle of the election, purd
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: I mean it's actually started. The voting actually started after
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: four years. Because if I didn't feel I won by
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: a lot the last election, I wouldn't do that. Because
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: if you got you know, if you lost, your losses, okay,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: you lose, it's easier in a way to just say, okay,
• 47:03
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• 47:06
  Speaker 1: to those beaches or do what I want to do.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: There's golf to be played, Yeah, golf too. Do you
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: play golf. I'm a frustrated golfer.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I would think you would hit a long ball if
• 47:14
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• 47:15
  Speaker 2: When I hit it, it goes a long way. I'm just
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: not the uh you know, I have to know that.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: I don't want to cut you off, But mate, like,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: who shoots at a guy who's got a three foot
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: putt for Bertie?
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Who does that?
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, is that right? You had a three foot
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: putt for Bertie and a guy starts popping shots all day?
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Well that was the second time. Yeah, I'm standing
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: over a putt. He could have at least let me
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: put it out right. I mean, actually it wasn't him.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: That was a Secret Service agent. Guy did a good job.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: He saw a barrel coming out. Can you believe it?
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: AK forty seven? That's a big one, right, yeah, And
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: he saw a barrel coming out from behind a bush.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: You guys buried in a bush, very lush course. And
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: the Secret Service, I mean, he did an amazing job.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: He's walking down a hole ahead of me and he
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: sees a barrel coming out of a bush and he
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: didn't talk. He started shooting because he said that's not good.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: And he started shooting. And the guy wasn't hit, but
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: he dropped his gun and he ran across the street,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: got into a car. Now, listen to this one. A woman.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: It could only be a woman, because men maybe aren't
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: smart enough. A woman sees this guy running. He's running
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: across the street. Now, who would do this? It's fairly
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: busy street, big, you know, congress. And she sees him
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: and she said, he's suspicious. I see people running all
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: the time that don't look so hot. But she follows
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: him for one block. He gets into the car. She
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: stops her car, starts taking pictures of his license plate,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: and starts taking pictures of the type of car it was.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: It was whatever, a van of some kind, And she
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: then takes the pictures and sends him to the sheriff.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Who would do this?
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: And the sheriff says, wow, because they just had an incident.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: It only happened three minutes before.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: So the sheriff then gets a picture and he just
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: had a call that there's this big deal going on.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: And two minutes later he gets a picture of a
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: car and a license plate sent by the word who
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: would do this? I said to the sheriff, if this
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: happened a thousand times. How many people would follow a
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: guy that's running down the street stop and take pictures.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: And there's some kind of a chip or something on
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: the license plate that if they have the license plate,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: they can track it. And do you ever know that?
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: I never heard of it.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I didn't.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: There's some kind of a deal that if they have
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: your license plate, they can find you. And they have
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: him speeding down a highway and they got him and
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: nabbed him fast. But think of that, because he could
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: be out there and I wouldn't want to have a
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: guy out there that, you know, just dropped an AK
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: forty seven and ran and he's out there and they
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: got him, and you know he's gonna he's got some problems,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: that guy. But think of that. Who would think that
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: somebody would take pictures of somebody's licensemate because they saw
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: him and he didn't look right. And a woman did this.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Incredible woman. But I said to the police. I said
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: to the sheriff, was great. He said, Sheriff, how many
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: times out of a thousand times, how many times would
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: somebody do that? He said maybe none?
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. How It's so crazy, Yeah, it really is.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: So it was a pretty wild time and hopefully, hopefully
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: we're going to have a great election. You know, we're
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: well straighten out the country, well straight out the border.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: We have a lot to straight Now. This has been
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: the worst president in history. This is the worst vice
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: president in history. She's worse than he is. And you
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: never know, you know, it's an election, you know, no,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: maybe somebody likes her. I think I think we should
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: be in good shape. Uh, we knocked him out. Now
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: we have to knock her out and we'll get it back.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: And I do it because we're going to make America
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: great against versus you know, we have a maga. You
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: know all about mega It's basically it's basically.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: Make America great again. I think I heard of it.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: It's been pretty successful.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: Definitely.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: No, it's the greatest movement in the history of the country.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: And and when I say that, if it was wrong,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: the press would you know, the the I say this
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: is the greatest movement, they have to say, I guess
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: that's right, nothing even close. Maybe the greatest movement in
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: the history of any country. But we have you know,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: and they're all fans of used. By the way, we
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: have probably two hundred million people. If you think about it.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: It could be more than that. A majority of the
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: country and they want to And when Biden went out,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: you know on occasion say we have to, we will
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: stop MAGA. We will stop. They say no, Let's make
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: America great again. You know, he's got to stop MAGA.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: So anyway, so it's been very successful. But now we're
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: in the middle of an election, right smack in the middle.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Right, Well, we're in the home street.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Yep, we have we have nineteen days left, but the
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: voting starts. You know, voting should be one day and
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: should be nineteen days or twenty days. At show, you know,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: we have we have something. I think that's going to
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: be special. The numbers are very good, but who knows.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: You know, you have to just keep working. And it's
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: an honor to do the show with you guys, sir.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: That means a lot to us and giving us this opportunity.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: You know, we're not journalists, and I turned.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Down sixty minutes and I'm doing your stupid show.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: We're doing a professional wrestling podcast.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: We're not journalists, and we're really not that great podcasters either,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: but we get people that watch us. But I do
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: have I have one question and earlier. You were very gracious. Uh,
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: and you met you know, you met my family and
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: they're they're setting over there my my political interests. Uh
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: Title nine, you met my daughter? Yes, what are we
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: gonna what are we going to do? Or what are
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: you going to do? If elected? To protect the integrity
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: of women in sports and continue on with just the
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: fair play. And I don't I don't mean to put
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: you on the spot. And I appreciate everything why it is,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: but I want to put a face to it if
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: you can, can I bring my daughter?
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Absolutely? Wow, just such a beautiful that is. That's what
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: I call a beautiful daughter.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Thank you. She she is and she's quite the quite
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: the quarterback.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: But you still you don't want to go and wrestle
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: a guy like if you were doing that, because people
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: do that like your father. Right, he's a little too
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: much to handle right now. I will not I will
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: get rid of it fast. Men playing in women's sports
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: is insane. Okay, it's insane. I mean I assume you.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: I can't even imagine anybody thinking anything other like you
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: have to have borders, right, you have to have fair elections.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Where are the people that wanted Have you ever met
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: anybody that said we want men playing in women's you know,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I've never met anybody. I know there's got to be
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: some kind of a movement. I'm going to terminate that immediately.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: I'll terminate it. I'm not going to let it happen.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Yesterday a volleyball player got hit. Oh female team or
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: somebody transition and you don't think of volleyball. She got hit.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Now this guy, this was a man who transitioned to
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: a woman, and they showed the shot and it was
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: all girls. There were girls older, you know, like eighteen
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: nineteen twenty, very good players, like all American type players,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I think a college steamers of And they had the
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: one guy on the one team and he was up
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: so high in the air and he smashed that ball.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: You know, you don't see that. And this ball came
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: at her speed that he's you know, she's never seen
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: get really whacked her. But other volleyball players were hurt.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: But the best is weightlifting, where you see a record
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: that stood for like fifteen years and they're putting you know,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: an eighth of announce on each side of the bar,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: you know, this building. And then some person that transitioned
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: to a female from a male. Have you lifted before?
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Not much? No, Well, here we are, so that he
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: got you know, they had like one hundred pounds to it.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: He's still lifted him. So it's crazy. The swimmers still
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: look swimmers, I mean the swimmers. It's ridiculous. Yes, so,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: And I think it's very demeaning to women. But you know,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: she wants to play sports, and she wants to play
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: against women. You don't necessarily want to play against men.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: You know, it's okay, but you don't want to do it.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Did you see the boxing match at the Olympic boxing?
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: Did you see the guy did did you see that
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: beautiful Italian girl? She's supposed to be a good boxer.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: She took just a left jab. The guys up, he
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: goes boom. That's like a defensive punch, So it goes
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: like that. I never saw it quite like that. She
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: didn't actually go down. She walked back to a corner.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: She said, I just got hit harder than I've ever been. Yeah,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: it was ridiculous that the quarter pushes her back out.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: You can do it, you can do He goes with
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: another left jab and she walked off. She said, I
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: there's no way I can beat there.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: There were two people in the Olympics because I didn't
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: even know they have female boxing. There were two people
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: that transitioned into women. Both of them win to go
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: metal shocking. Are you shocked to hear that?
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Imagine that?
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: How would you like to play this guy? Okay, he
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: decides to transition. I don't think we have to somehow.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: I don't think we have to worry about but this
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: would not be pleasant. It's been great with you.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you for that, and I just going
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: to this home stretch. I know you you're extremely busy.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: I think you have to go to Michigan now. I
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: just appreciate you giving us the opportunity and and thank
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: you for taking care of women's sports. Obviously it's near
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: and dear to my heart.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: It's I bet you're going to be a good athlete, right, yes?
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Are you good? Now? Very good? What sport do you
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: play other than the football?
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: So right now I'm just playing football because it takes
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: up a lot of my time.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: But I think when I get to school, I think
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: what position you're playing football? WHOA, that's good? And you
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: have good hands, so that I see, ye, she.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Got a pretty good arms.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Got a little bit of an arm. Huh, that's good. Well,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: I'll be watching. Okay, I'll be watching.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: It'll be in the Olympics.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: You have to do me a favorite. Tell your father
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: that we had a great time. We're sitting down and
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: we look a little bit equal, a little bit equal.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Tell your father not to show any picture where we're
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: standing up together, because I don't want to look like
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: a small person. Do you understand when you tell him
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: that you'll watch that for me? Yes? Okay, do you
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: understand that, everybody, because I never felt that small before. Anyway,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: it was great, fellas, You're something very special. Take care
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: of yourself, appreciate it. Thanks you see you again. We'll
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: see you again. Get out and vote. Thank you for
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: that was fun.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: Mark, What who would have ever thought?
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Not me?
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: Well, buddy, congratulations and that just happened. That just happened.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: The president of the United States. And thank you, happy
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: Dad for helping support this podcast. And uh man, there's
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: only one way to celebrate this, Jack's brother. Thanks happy dad.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Man. That's good.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: We're gonna have a good time tonight.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, we will.