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Good evening, everybody. Welcome to the Wednesday night edition of That Sports Exchange.
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Candy Ebling, Jacob Christener, and Denzel Snipe's great job on the first
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half our doubleheader on Pundit's funding tonight. J My voice is not gonna be
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text because I had the first show off and Candy did the stuff. So
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JB are new tonight and the other three are carry overs on the other show.
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Meanwhile, great doubleheader that we have. All right with that said,
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you know, on behalf of all of us who want to let j b
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ellis no congratulations on your wedding next week. We're gonna miss you. But
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boy, I'll say what you're going to mex Go And I believe you said
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kang tune right correct. Yeah, I appreciate it, Scott. Thank you
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guys. Is that your honeymoon cool? You know, when you get away
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from those little somber moments, don't be afraid to see if you bullfights.
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You have a lot of my animals fighting with each other, so I don't
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know if that's something I should be promoting when you're on there for a wedding,
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But you know I've been to kang tune, you know, and I
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got a new sight. I enjoyed bargaining with the Mexicans. I tell you
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what, when I get done with Mexicans, they end up needing titling all
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ten. Okay, just you know, are you guys gonna enjoy Jamie Enjoy.
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Had to get that out there and in a parting shot at all.
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That's a college congratulations one on one. All right, Well, let me
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get everybody over you what we're gonna be talking about tonight. We're gonna be
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talking about some injuries. We're gonna be talking about some NBA And let me
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tell you between injuries and the NBA and a little bit of baseball, we're
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gonna have a full show. Parting shots will only be time permitting, following
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the sports Exchange. That Confidential starts at ten ten Eastern time, hosted by
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jb Ellis. I think Denzil and Jacob Lebian two right, all y'all ye
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ni and from here, from here it's after that, it's gonna be the
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regulard. You know, it's gonna be the regular amount of time after that,
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you know. So when you talk to Nick, tell him that there's
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a phone call waiting. We'll bring him on here at some point, but
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I'm glad we'll make sure we get everybody in front of continential ten ten easert
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time. So after you get off the South Florida Tribune Broadcasting Network YouTube channel,
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blah blah blah, flip over the sideline sports and let me talk about
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the Cubs. All right? What that said? Right now, we're talking
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about Aaron Rodgers or plays and out. I'm Monday Night Football. Will he
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retire from an achilles injury? Candy Away. I do not see him retiring,
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although it depends on how hard and how long and how he feels once
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he has healed. He was meeting with doctors, I believe today and then
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they were going to determine when surgery and stuff. But I really don't see
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him retiring. He wants to play longer, he wants more, he wants
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another title. Will he be able to come back from this? I was
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reading an article that said doctor thought, because he is in such good condition
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that he has a very good chance of coming back and being ready to go.
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He can start throwing. If he would have surgery very soon, he
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could start throwing already for spring mini camp, and he could be back for
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the first next season. So do I see him doing it. Yes,
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I think he loves the game. He loves playing the game. He wanted
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out of Green Bay, Let's face it, That's why I think he kept
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Should I retire or should I not? I think it's still in him.
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The competitive edge is still in him. He still wants to play because,
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let's face it, he would not need to. He has made plenty of
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money, has plenty of endorsements already, but he still has the fire that
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he wants to compete. So I say he does not retire and he will
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come back as a Jet. Do you think Jamie List of the Jets went
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all out and went all in on Aaron Rodgers. It's a shape to see
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what happened to the Jets. But they're the Jets. They're cursed, and
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you know, do I think Rogers comes back? He loves football, but
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it's his head of the game. After this, he has a whole year
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to think about it. He's a wild card. You know, you never
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know what he's thinking. Would anyone have thought that he went down the path
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and he went out and would have left Green Bay where he was? You
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know, basically a god who knows? I mean, it'll be interesting to
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see what the New York media has to say about how he reacts now that
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he's hurt. What he says to the media before the you know, before
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the season ends, and then we'll get a better graph, bubb and as
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that happens. And so you know, he actually had put up his first
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tweet post injury, he said, the night is dark as before the dawn,
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and I shall rise yet again. Knowing Aaron Rodgers and his competitive spirit,
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absolutely not. He's not retiring. He has unfinished business. You know,
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in terms of competitors, if you had to compare him to basketball players
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Tom Brady was Michael Jordans, one could say Rogers is like Kobe, you
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know he is. He's determined to not let the New York fan base down.
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He wants to he wants to, you know, playoff the rest of
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his days as a jet and everything. And he wants to prove that he
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can come back, you know, and you just think unprecedented. He'll be
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like forty next year, comes back at forty post Achilles injury, and and
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and and puts up you know, how remain numbers he puts up. Now,
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maybe they'll be historic numbers if history within it self's in a forty year
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old come back after an achilles injury, you know what I mean. But
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it's a shame because players have actually complained about that turf. They've complained about
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the turf, and that I think right there is the unsung song about this
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whole thing. It's the turf at Metlight Stadium. Because if I'm not mistaken,
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I'm even Giants players and Jest players have complained about that turf. So
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that may be something that the NFL can take a look at. But because
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if I'm not mistaken, JB, the old Giant Stadium had natural grass.
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No, it's turf. It was. I'm sorry it was it was.
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It was astra turf. Yeah, but but yeah, they actually, you
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know, that's that's something to take a look at. But to Aaron Rodgers
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history of speedy recovery, no, I don't think it's over with it.
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Philly, Philly had that turf. The Giants had that turf. That turf,
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I mean it was an astro turf, and I mean Michael Orvin busted
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his neck up on that stuff, you know what I mean. It was
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ridiculous. But it's just terrible turf by itself. You don't need to have
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it anymore, especially with grass can do its side. But here's here's the
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thing, though, what's in common with everybody's all these injuries coming back more
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ideas about health. Got to remember now that you've got these, you've got
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all these little CBD deals, you know, Mike Tyson, Hulkogan, that
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Rick Flair, have all of them. Now, all of them are saying
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how much healthy it they feel by taking that stuff instead of pills. He's
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gonna it's like he's gonna get his surgery. He's not gonna have to take
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pills. He's gonna have all that kind of stuff, all that kind of
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CBD oils. He's gonna have all that kind of thing. We're gonna see
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for real now he's at all season and the off season and everything to find
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out how much that stuff works. Remember he was talking about taking hayuska,
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so he'll take drugs. So you gotta realize we're gonna literally see in real
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time finally when he promotes it, what the hiuska why not asking but the
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what the CV oils and everything do for his recovery? And it's probably and
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then you might see Tom Brady do it eventually, and you might see all
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that, and then you might start seeing the higher ends the you know,
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the end of the he might be seen the end of pills, in the
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end of everything in that thing, and see longer careers. Well, I'll
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say I've said it on a couple of shows this week, and I'll say
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it again, Aaron Rodgers is not going out this way under no uncertain terms.
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For all the drama that we've seen, he's been on hard knocks now
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he've been but the Green Bay will I return or as he Rogers turns,
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and all the soap operas that are connected to this guy, he will not
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go out this way period. So you know, I don't care if he's
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wearing number eight his caw jersey or twelve with Green Bay. Nobody wants to
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go out with an achilles injury. And more importantly, the one guy that
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hoping he can come back and hopefully still has a little bit of effect on
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that team is Zach Wilson. Even though the man is hurt, I mean,
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he can't be in the quarterback room and try to mentor him, even
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though he wanted to do it in the first place. So with all due
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respect, you know what, Aaron Rodgers to me, as Denzil just stated
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moments Ago does have unfinished business, and I see unfinished business becoming the case
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once the clock hits forty. All right, you know some crazy reason,
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guys and gal, it seems like I'm watching Mash. Okay, remember the
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old Mash shows that we're talking about everybody getting hurt and the Buckers and all
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that. Well, we got another Mash type of topic. And you know,
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I don't know, I used to like Mash myself, but I'm not
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going to get into the detail because everybody out there might have a different opinion.
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But since we're on it, Texas Rangers right handed pitcher mixture, they're
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thirty nine. We'll miss the remaining of the right dealer season with a right
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terrorist major strain and it's unlikely a return for the postseason. But before I
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she's in front of the camera. All right, Now that I got the
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company business out of the way, let's talk about Max Scherzer Andy. I
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remember one of the coaches came on, and I don't remember which show it
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was, but he said that we're part of the reason we're seeing so many
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injuries, especially like in baseball, is that as young kids, we're training
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them to be only on one sport. One sport wonders. Well, when
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you do one sport, wonders, you're always using the same muscles, Whereas
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if you played different sports, you use different muscles, you tone everything in,
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you're fully in shape. If you're only using the same muscles all the
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time, you're gonna wear them down. They get they get tired and worn
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out. I hate to say it, and let's face it, years ago
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we didn't have AstroTurf and some of these artificial surfaces that can really do damage.
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I think that's part of the reason. And I think we all are
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striving to get better and better and better, and for some reason we think
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that means I gotta throw it faster, I gotta throw it harder. Not
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I gotta place the pitch better. I've got to throw it faster, I
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gotta throw it harder. I gotta be better. I gotta be better.
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I gotta be better. I gotta be better. And I think, yes,
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you want to strive to do your best, but I think sometimes you
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over we can overdo it, and so I think that's part of what it
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is. Okay, you know we're throwing a Yeah, that's true. Well,
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I mean arm injuries, you know, Tommy John's surgery or no,
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Tommy John's surgery. The reality is they're going to happen. So, but
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that said, I'll turn over to JB. You know, as sports evolve
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and athletes do different type of training, as advanced as they get, it
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appears that injuries start popping up more and more. You know, if you
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look back twenty thirty years ago, you know, Tommy john surgery was so
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rare, and now now the training regiment's so different. These athletes are doing
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so many different things, you know, And I don't know. I'm not
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out there training baseball players or basketball players, so I don't know what it
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is that's causing it. Which which particular exercise or is it throwing a fork
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bowl a curve ball? You know, I don't have that answer, but
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there's something that's changed because the training regiment's not like what it was. I
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mean, you go back almost a hundred years, a guy like Babe Ruth,
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you know, he was in phenomenal shape, but he did trade like
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Aaron Judge. And you know, Aaron Judge has hurt every year Babe Ruth
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played almost every day, So there's something to be said for maybe these guys
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are over training and that's what's causing these injuries. You know, I can't
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put a pitpoint a pitpoint exactly what it is, since you know, it's
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not my field of expertise, but I would definitely say it has something to
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do with, you know, as advanced as we've gotten in training the science
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of training athletes, you know, we're we think we're more advanced that we
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are, it's causing more injuries than it may may prevent, all right,
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you know, and me and Jacob talked about this like not too long ago
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because my favorite picture of all times and Nolan expressed God was throwing one hundred
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at forty seven? Crazy? Right? Since then, yes, go ahead,
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s I'm sorry, Nolan Ryan, that's a good choice. Yeah,
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you know, but we literally haven't seen anything like him since. You know,
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we've seen the second coming of Montana and Tom Brady, We've seen the
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second coming of Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, there has not been a second
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coming of Nolan Ryan. And Nolan Ryan tired than what ninety four? So
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you have a guy ninety three? Yes, So here you have a guy
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who at the age of forty seven was still throwing one hundred. You know
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what I hear some of these these kids are doing nowadays. They're actually electing
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to getting Tommy John surgery uninjured, getting the surgery just so they can throw
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faster from it. Yeah, and yeah, and one lost his life from
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it, you know, and and and that's what it's about. I don't
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I'm an agreement with with Jacob, with JP here. You know, the
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training regiment isn't the same. You know, everybody's trying to come out of
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college being power pictures. I'm also going to go with a candy on this
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one, and that is it's too much. There's not enough emphasis on ball
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placement, you know, on ball placement. No one wants to try to
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throw the knuckleball anymore, which is like the hardest is to throw right.
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No one wants to try to master curveball anymore. You know. It's it's
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it's like, you know, Jacob says that chick chicks did the long ball.
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I guess they also did the fastball too. You know. The thing
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is is they ain't built like Nolan anymore, you know, And so you
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gotta be careful with this times of change. You gotta be smarter. You'll
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never see a never Nolan never. Okay, so just be you play smart?
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All right? Before I turn over to Jacob Samuel Kay. By the
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way, you guys are all going to get to know as time goes on.
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I work with him on the Sports ex Share when I was in that
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radio, so he's a very good knowledgeable sports guy. We'll be honest,
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we get usually he said, what about Otani, Well, we all know
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that Otani can find himself with an arm operation at some point or another.
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You know, he's had you know, we'll just see whether he can have
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the multiple wear inter between hitting and pitching. So good point, Sammy,
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thanks for bringing that up. All right, Jacob, al turn already.
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Here's a thing that happens. Number one, Wayne Gretzky used to save himself.
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He played the hockey y'all winner through the sticks away to play baseball.
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Thought he could be the next whatever his hero was. Then he went back
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to the sticks. I mean, look what happened on that And by the
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way, and just to let you know, there was that little thing on
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a video where Wayne Gretzkin's face and pile and let's see pale and like I'm
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trying to think to be on board and a couple of others and blew them
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completely away. I remember he was on ice not to but he blew them
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away in a running race. He was a better athlete that people ever gave
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credit for us, because he did all kinds of different things. But then
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here's another thing we don't. But I'm just saying those things and this is
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nothing we don't do. We are training kids on we're training kids on weight's
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way before they're right eight nine, ten years old. We're not telling kids
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to go do push ups, crunches, pull ups, body weight, things
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that will protect their body but make them stronger. Hit them in the wait
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minute maybe four huh No, you're right, yeah, but we're not telling
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them to go into the weight. We're telling them to go the way room
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eight nine ten years old and said like fourteen when their body's ready, right,
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And it's like push ups, push ups, push ups, push ups,
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push ups, push up push ups. I mean, I mean,
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I was my dad used to boot brand and not that I listened too well
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on that. I did some, but I could have banged a lot more
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out, you know, and stuff like that, and I would have been
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really ready for the weight room. Side, we bought bot fight for the
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weight room when your body's ready for that, but they don't do it.
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They get him ready right off the bat. And then then you wonder why
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you have seventeen year old in with the bowl and the elbow or a bad
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knee or whatever. See, this is the thing people wonder why the one
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hundred and twenty pounds MMA fighters gonna beat up the two hundred and sixty pounds
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the bodybuilder. And it's because it's different muscles, right, you're not guess
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what it's like if you're if you saw them. You've seen the video of
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the bodybuilder trying to get the sticker off his back and he can't get there
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because his arms too big. If you ain't flexible, both the wrong type
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of muscles. And we're not teaching every type of muscle with these kids,
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is why they're blowing everything out. Period. We're not teaching that type of
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thing. They're blowing all these out. And then now you have Steven Strassburg
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going out and yet you take him out of five and two thirds, you
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have Jacob deGrom going out, take him out three and two thirds you're taking
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them out and they're getting hurt. Anyway, don't get me started on that.
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That could be a topic later on on the road. Yeah, but
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I still have any times. Listen, I got to be conscious of confidential
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because if you start incorporating one hour topics into a short segment and I'm going
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to be trouble. I breathe you, man, I breathe you. So
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don't worry. Yeah, because I'm sure that are folks out in the Midwest
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don't want Jacob Christener to go way over barred, okay over the hill,
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but that never happens. I'm telling you, all right. The only thing
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I'll say about Denzil is right, I used to go ahead. I love
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Nolan Ryan, of course. I don't know if I liked this pitching or
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the beating laid on Robin Ventura. Oh that that was about eight packs a
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powerful bun So all right, But as far as but the irony here or
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maybe it isn't an irony the way constructed, the show is Rogers United,
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so it's sures and you're talking about two thirty nine year olds that are on
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am back into their career due to wear and tear and that's what we have.
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And as a result, you know, of course, now the Achilles
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injury isn't attributed to wear and tear that can happen anywhere. But the amazing
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part about it is, yes, they are in mash Okay without Alan Alda
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and the rest of them. But you know, again, and yet these
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two things happen within days apart. When you think about it, right,
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what do we Wednesday night? You have Monday night. So but yet here
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we are, we're addressing it older athletes, as I mentioned in the show,
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Injuries to Sports start fourth biggest stars. In this case, we're talking
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about the older athletes per se. So it all blends in nicely. So
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we're gonna stay on baseball a little bit. I really like this thing,
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and I'm gonna follow these people on Twitter. Okay. But according to ant
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talking Yanks David Wills Wells, excuse me who put tape over the Nike logo?
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Okay here this okay, says Brian Cashman and Aaron Boone aren't to blame
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for the Yankees struggles. He says struggling players should be sent to the miners,
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no matter how much they're paid. Wells says players are toddled and baby
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too much. I'm bear in mind. I talk about the source because NAT
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talking Yanks, which will have one more follow reck of this, maybe a
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needle in the haystack to follow us. They never know where it goes.
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They have twenty they're only following twenty nine and eighty five people, but they
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got two hundred and seventeen thousand, one hundred followers. So guess what their
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message is getting out there. So with that said, okay, Candy take
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it away. How do you say I'm gonna pay somebody fifty million dollars and
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then to send him down to the minors like that just doesn't make sense to
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me. I mean, I get it. The Yankees are not where anybody
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thought they would be right now. Yankees paid a lot of money for people
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that are injury prone. Let's face it, they're not. They're part of
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this injuries too. But wins and losses also fall partly on your coach and
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your GM because depending on how much stepth you have, if you have injuries,
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and let's face it, a manager, you can use analytics like we
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were talking on pundance pundance to night, or you can't, or you don't
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have to, but I think some of it does. Let's face it,
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how many times has Aaron Boone gotten thrown out because he's argued calls that were
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like, are you kidding me? Really? I mean, come on,
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he's gotten He's been thrown out so many times it's not even funny. Part
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of it does absolutely come down to a manager. That's why you go out
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and get a manager. That's their job. It's your job as a baseball
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player to go out there. But mind you, it's also the job of
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the opposing team to make you not good either. So is it always to
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blame on the Yankees or is it some of the people that are they're playing
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against. That's why you play the game, because any given day, any
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team can beat any other team. But yes, you have to blame the
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coach. I mean, it comes down to it. That's what the coach
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is there to motivate your players to help them do better. I like that
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perspective, all right, JB. So David Wells, who was a mediocre
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picture happen to play for the Ikes. It's only because he had a perfect
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game, and to be honest with you, mediocre. You know, he
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needs to calm down. Brian Cashman's job is to put the best team that
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he can on the field, very simple, it's all. His job is
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to get the best players for the budget. He has to get a winning
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team. In the Morons, Brian Cashman has failed at that since two thousand
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and nine. Boone. His job is to, as Katie said, to
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motivate the players, to put the best line up on the field, and
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to make the right goals in certain situations. He's done a horrible job him.
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David Ross should take a long fishing phishing vessel way out to see and
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never be seen in baseball again. But that's besides the point. You know,
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they're they're definitely part of the problems. Should guys be sent down to
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the minors. I'd like to see you, said, guy who's making twenty
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million, thirty million, and say, you know what, you're going to
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the Triple A team, Bob setting you to Double A. You're gonna go
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go down to Tampa. I'll play for a month at Able. It's not
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gonna happen. It's not the way of the game anymore. This isn't the
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nineteen seventies where you were an a dentured servant to your team Before Kurt Flood.
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You know now it doesn't work that way anymore. David Wells, I
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mean your beloved because you were part of many championship teams in the Bronx.
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You know, I love you, I love your grit. But if you
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don't know what you're talking about, just don't speak. And you know it's
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okay to have an opinion, but you're way off base on this one.
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Maybe maybe become a pitching coach and help the Yankees pictures become better because you're
25:48
not helping anybody by by backing two guys that shouldn't been back in the Bronx
25:53
next year. The only thing I'll say before I trow you dance about his
26:00
statement that might merit a little bit is that nowadays I don't care, and
26:04
it's across all sports, okay, not just baseball, is that players are
26:08
toddled and babied a little bit. They really really are. I mean,
26:11
and when I say that, I say that the lack of complete games and
26:17
a lot of the other stats that we viewed upon as really sacred type of
26:22
sense are being taken away. I realized there's a large monetary investment. I
26:26
think it's a realistic thing you're going to send these guys down other than a
26:30
rehab, because that's probably all you're gonna be able to do one or two
26:33
weeks. I gotta work the marvels out. But you know, let's face
26:37
a reality, toddled and babied too much. Now, I'm not gonna totally
26:41
disagree with that one at all, because, let's face a reality, Baseball
26:45
had more guaranteed contracts than a lot of the other ones. So I leave
26:48
a window openness there. But the thing I'm gonna say is, yes,
26:53
Aaron Booton cannot think he's an ext Or were or Bobby Cox and have an
26:59
over under a hatched him. How many times he's going to get thrown out
27:02
of a game all year? That to me, does you know good?
27:04
I think it's counterproductive because you need the manager on the field as much as
27:10
possible for the duration of the game. And that's where my issues go with
27:14
Aaron Boone. Bear in mind and altern o read Den's what I'm gonna roll
27:18
with this one. So barrenly okay, George Steinbrenner doesn't own this team anymore,
27:22
hal Steinbrenner does. If George Steinbrenner saw a manager underperforming he's gone.
27:30
We all know his track record for impatience letting managers go. Hal Steinbrenner to
27:36
say the least is a bit more patient. So we'll leave it at that.
27:40
Okay, Al turnover, read Denzel, That's all I have to say
27:41
about the topic. He actually, I'm glad you said that last part.
27:47
Here's a little bit more patient. I know a lot of people feel Cashman
27:51
and and Boone should be gone, you know, but keep in mind is
27:56
that when you ever you have seasons like last season when the Yankees were the
28:03
second best team in the American League, it gives them more of an excuse
28:08
to keep them around. It's the same debate I had with Dallas Cowboys fans.
28:14
As bad as they wanted Jason Garrett going, you do realize when the
28:18
Cowboys have a twelve win season, that gives Jerry Jones an excuse to keep
28:23
the man around. And you know, the man was like a son,
28:26
you know, So keep in mind, and then you could It's like this
28:30
with just about any other team. As long winning cures all. Okay,
28:36
as long as they are winning and they're hanging around, it gives them an
28:41
excuse to keep them around because you think, oh, well, maybe we're
28:44
missing a piece here or a piece there. I know Aaron Judge had the
28:47
whole assigning deal, you know, before this season he was named captain and
28:52
everything. Now on the other side of defense. There is cause for them
28:57
being gone because the Gang Keys have not seen a World Series since two thousand
29:02
and nine, and as a matter of fact, the twenty tens is the
29:03
only decade and with the Yankees did not reach a World Series in team history
29:08
as a matter of facts, since then, their very own hated rivals,
29:12
the Red Sox half seen and won two World Series since the Yankees last one.
29:18
So that right there has to be deep into minds of Yankees fans.
29:22
And it's one thing to not see It's one thing to not see a World
29:27
Series and that amount of time. It's another thing to see your eternal hated
29:33
rivals see two, see and win two of them before you see another one
29:37
next. Actually, Jens, I thought the number was three, wasn't it.
29:41
I know, I know they won an eighteen. The Sox won in
29:45
eighteen and thirteen since last one. Yeah, one with Cora and I think
29:49
two with Terry Francona. Unless they want to do the research on that.
29:52
We can correct me, but I know your point though, Den's The reality
29:56
is Joe Girardi won that last championship and Boone hasn't sniffed anything close to it,
30:03
right, you know, So I'm I'm in closing. I'm on the
30:07
hand, understand both sides, right, okay. And the Cubs won before
30:15
the Yankees. And the Cubs won before the Yankees, the one hundred and
30:21
eight years everything before the Yankees. But the here's the thing. Ever,
30:26
when I heard that, David, when I heard when, I almost said
30:30
David Ross, because we're gonna be doing con potential. But no, when
30:33
David Wells said that, all I can think about is he must have got
30:37
his head bang when he got knocked out by that one hundred and fifty pound
30:40
guy and got sucker punched. It must spend how his white how his mind
30:44
thinks. But the some years ago. But the thing about it, though,
30:49
is I said it myself Yankees. I mean at the same time that
30:56
it has past his time as far as cashman same time, do not just
31:00
hire, because the Bears do this all the time. You get rid of
31:04
somebody and then you make it worse. Don't hire, just put a warm
31:08
body in there. Make sure you get something right. In the end,
31:11
it's still a pile of alcs, and including a recent one, it can
31:15
get a heck of a lot worse every time you've got to get the I
31:21
said, go get a theo Epstein, Go get whatever you need be and
31:25
make sure it's replaced properly. Make sure he's replaced properly, the Cashman.
31:30
But as far as them go, the whole thing does need to be torn
31:34
because it can get itself worse. But I'm like, just don't replace it
31:37
with a warm body. I just don't. I just with Cashman. It's
31:41
like, remember they're gonna miss it now, they're probably gonna miss So I
31:47
mean, after doing all that, after not making the World Series, it's
31:48
time to go. And then typer Aaron Boone to go. So, Candy,
31:53
do you have something I don't. I don't have it yet. No,
31:57
when she comes on, all our correct researcher here. So the reality
32:01
is as I believe that Wells is certainly known for being a very opinionated individual,
32:08
and I allude to what JBL has said. He did have a lot
32:12
of his best success in the Bronze, So you know his voice is going
32:15
to be heard and people are going to pay attention. Whether you agree or
32:19
not, that's another story. I'm not wagering a debate of such a thing
32:22
like that. So we're going to go over to the NBA, I know,
32:25
we get opportunities to talk about it, and now we definitely have a
32:29
good couple of topics that are certainly worth bringing our attention. Draymond Green as
32:34
a new goal this season. He views this as a one of the most
32:39
important years of his career. He wants to win a championship for Chris Paul,
32:45
his first one. I think it's an noble goal. What do you
32:46
think, Andy, anytime you want to help somebody win a championship, it's
32:53
a great, great goal. I mean, that's the reason why you're playing,
32:57
right, You're not playing just to lose the games. You're you're playing
33:00
the games because you want to win, and you want to win a championship
33:04
and you should. I think it's I think it's great. I mean that's
33:07
what I think. That's what you you, that's why you play the game.
33:13
Well, in Pall's case, it wouldn't like you joined him as a
33:15
free agent. I believe it was traded wasn't need to get over there,
33:16
so it's like, you know what, to be a peace there. So
33:20
more power to him, wasn't it, Jordan Pool? I think they got
33:22
traded for him. Yes, yeah it was. I thought. So Jordan
33:27
Pool gets shipped east right, and then Chris Paul I'm okay, well that's
33:31
good, all right, JB. You know I have no problem with the
33:36
statement. Accept that. As Katy said, you played it within the game.
33:39
So you should want to win the championship for yourself, for your team,
33:45
Chris Paul. No, Chris Pole, if Rup poles you on your
33:47
TV, you should want to win a championship. It doesn't matter what Pole
33:51
it is. You know what does it make a difference. You're playing because
33:54
you want to win a championship, So you know, maybe stop hitting your
33:58
teammates and start, you know, start boxing out to do what you should
34:01
be doing. Get back to the player dreabout Green used to be, and
34:05
you'll have a shot to win a championship instead of running your mouth. Well
34:08
with Ru Paul, you picked another one I can knock out. Jordan Poole.
34:13
Actually be a fair matchup, all right, Jazel Man Drake, This
34:22
this is the thing that the sports world is it has to learn about dreamond
34:27
Is. Demand's gonna voice his opinion. You know he definitely. He's got
34:32
a podcast for christ saying right, you know, I mean, he's the
34:37
brash and Scott's gonna hang me for this one. His brashness reminds me of
34:44
rod Man. It just does you know? It's not on level. No,
34:51
it's just it's just you that why wait, wait, wait, back
34:55
up? Why would I hate you for that one? I work with Dennis
35:00
Robin all right? Can I you know what I'm gonna go back to the
35:02
old friend's head for saying, Okay, are you crazy? Really? I
35:10
worked with Robin? I know, Draymond, that's a that's one of the
35:14
best analogies you've come up with. So I'll say it again, even though
35:17
you probably can't hear through the ear, folks, are you crazy? Life?
35:22
I know how much I know we'll see. That's the thing, Scott,
35:25
I know how much the man means to you. You're close to him
35:29
and everything, and whenever you're close with somebody, you're critical of him,
35:31
you know what I mean. So that's why I was like, you know,
35:35
I beat him in bowling after I want a trophy for most unusual farm.
35:39
He's I told him a free shows through the stunk and he and you
35:44
know what, he thought my bowling form was bad and I beat him anyways,
35:46
But it was a fun game. I mean it was fun. I
35:50
beat It wasn't fun. Ahead, I know I threw you off, but
35:53
go ahead. You really set me up for that. Hey, if anyone
35:58
knows how to trigger Scott, it's me. And maybe he did it tonight,
36:00
brother, but but but no. The thing is with Draymond Green is
36:06
he's always gonna voice his opinion about it and he's got the care free no
36:10
matter what you gonna say. Now, my thing is with Chris Paul.
36:15
Chris Paul wants to win, and I'm in love with Can. He wants
36:17
to win. He wants to win a championship. Had he won with the
36:20
Rockets, he would have retired. Had he won with the Sons, he
36:22
would have retired. This is why he's hanging on. He doesn't want to
36:27
go down as one of the greatest never to have won at all. So
36:30
I'd like the move. Whether he comes off the bench and plays ten games
36:35
a season, as long as he wins and he's on that roster. That's
36:39
all I care about. I think the man is deserving. But here's the
36:43
one thing you're really missing out of all this. Once upon a time when
36:46
he played for New Orleans and the NBA owned that franchise. Okay, they
36:52
ended up making a trade to the Lakers, and David Stern nixed that trade.
36:57
Yep, and he put the combine, got it? That might have
37:01
been his chance to get that. So then he had to play for the
37:05
minor league team called the LA Clippers, and we all know how that turned
37:07
out. I'll talented team that they didn't that underperformed. So let's make sure
37:13
we cover all angles here. And you know, since we had a basketball
37:15
show that once upon a time that reflected those times. You know, to
37:21
me, it's all of those situations where you know there if there's anybody that's
37:25
had bad luck trying to get on the championship trail. Chris Paul said,
37:29
all right, I'm setting you up, Jacob. Let's see if you can
37:31
interviewe between Denzil and I. He really came out at the last minute to
37:37
take this. Yeah, but let me say this. You notice and you
37:43
and they don't know where I'm going to go here. You notice who they
37:46
moved Draymond and said and warriors chose to get them the ring. Who's chosen
37:55
Paul? Not Hardened? Not And you want to know why, And it's
38:01
because they know. The NBA fraternity knows Paul is giving him. There's just
38:10
something freezes up in the head, something that but he's trying his darndest to
38:15
get this. Things happen bad luck. It is basically Dusty Baker, before
38:20
he finally got his something would have happen and you got it. You know
38:22
what I'm saying, Benzel, if something would finally happen, something in two
38:25
thousand and three would happen, blah blah blah, he finally got it.
38:30
Paul is just that kind of like Dusty Baby, the old Dusty Baker.
38:34
Luck. There's never gonna be a hardened because they know he's lazy. They
38:38
know he cares about the cloud. They know he cares about being around that
38:43
baby or that Brad or whatever the heck of the name is. That's all
38:45
they cares about. He cares about the cloud and the strippers. They know
38:50
it. And it's like they don't want and they don't want anything to do
38:53
with that. They know They're not gonna win with him on the team.
38:55
You can win with with the right kind of situation with Paul and you help
39:00
him out, you can get it. Harden would just destroy Yes, So
39:02
they know this themselves, so they're going, I don't mind him doing what
39:06
they're doing for Paul if they've gotten for their own anyway. No, I
39:09
agree, That's why I've brought this up. Will give me start on James
39:14
Harden And you'll never make it the confidential So we'll leave that for another time
39:17
when Jblis returns. Well to feel like we mister Ellis out of the party
39:22
that got of a conversation, but or are staying with the NBA and this
39:29
is one that we all easily have a lot of opinions on this and make
39:34
sure they're all done in about five to seven eight minutes. The NBA Board
39:37
of Governors has approved stricter wrestling policy and punishment for teams that sit star players
39:43
financial TV or in season tournament games rest multiple stars that once a star is
39:46
defined as a player who has made an All Star or All NBA team in
39:51
the past three seasons. Recent CBA they had a sixty five game requirement to
39:57
get awards to combat load management and us leave it to Sir Charles Barkley,
40:00
the Voice an opinion. God love Charles. I always tell him that you
40:04
always know where he's standing. I got a photo with the guy. I'll
40:07
prove it. So Charles Barkley's comment, You've got to make seventy million and
40:12
can't play basketball three to four days a week. Oh gosh, I love
40:15
this comment. All right, Candy, there again here we talk about we
40:23
pay these guys millions of dollars to play a game that any one of us
40:30
would love to get paid that kind of money to play a game. I
40:37
feel it's all about money. It's driven by money. And let's face it,
40:43
they don't want them to sit because they don't want the fans that are
40:45
paying money to go see a game or a televised game advertise with advertising money.
40:52
They want the stars on TV. They want the stars playing the game.
40:58
That's the reason they get paid. If you can't handle that kind of
41:01
a season, then you should have negotiated in your contract to not play all
41:07
those games and only play half the season or half the games. You get
41:12
paid a lot of money to play the game. It's a you know how
41:15
many games in the season, there are be ready to play the games in
41:20
the season or retire JB. It's an absolute joke that the NBA needs to
41:30
put a policy in place for this. You know, you they spaced out
41:35
the schedule so that there's amidable back to back games. Try playing baseball when
41:40
you play one hundred and sixty two games and you go on the road for
41:45
two weeks at a time, you fly out two o'clock of the morning sub
41:49
nights and have to play a night game the next day after you get to
41:53
the hotel or six seventy the boarding, and you've got to be at the
41:57
field at one two o'clock in the afternoon, and baseball's not very fast moving,
42:01
so you're just sitting around most most of the two and a half hours
42:05
that they made the game quicker. Try doing that, and there's guys that
42:08
don't miss games. Meanwhile, the NBA, you're you're playing every other day
42:14
at most. You get three or four day breaks in between. You normally
42:19
don't travel and play the next night, so you get a whole light sleep.
42:22
You know the fact that this even needs to be talked about, and
42:27
I get that. You know, the rest has extended people's careers and there's
42:30
better ways of doing things. We don't want these guys only to play four
42:34
or five years. We want them to play as long as they had.
42:37
It's great to see Lebron still playing at a good level. You know,
42:40
it's late thirties. But at the same time, people pay money, But
42:45
I don't believe for a second that they care about the fans that are there.
42:49
They care about the advertiser of the national TV games. That's why it
42:52
was the National TV Games that they're talking about of this, you know,
42:55
so you know they care about you know, these companies that are paying billions
43:00
of dollars to put their brand on T and T at ESPN on Friday and
43:05
Tuesday nights. You know, that's who they care about. They want to
43:07
be associated with the top players, and you know it hurts the bread to
43:14
the NBA to have these guys set. So I get it completely, and
43:16
it's just sad to think that this is what it's come to. Yeah,
43:22
I don't doubt about that. Denzil, Yeah, I agree with JB on
43:29
this one. You know, just imagine you're taking a road trip or flying
43:32
out to see your team and everything, and then you get there, you
43:37
wanted to see your favorite player and such. Maybe you got some kids,
43:40
will you you're selling your daughter or something, and you get there to find
43:46
out that your favorite player, the player you came all that way to see,
43:52
it is taking a rest on load management. Yeah, and you know
43:58
what, I love the rule. I love the other rule in which you
44:02
have to play at least sixty five games if you want to qualify for an
44:08
award, MVP player anything, you want to qualify for any awards, you
44:15
gotta play those minimum amount of games, you know. And I like it.
44:20
I do because in these players contracts, they have incentives where if they
44:27
win said awards, they get paid more money. And that is how you
44:31
change the game. If you want them to shape up, start hitting them
44:36
in their pockets and make them believers, you know, because they know they
44:40
can go out there and win offensive, you know, player, defensive,
44:44
player, MVP. They know they know what kind of player they are,
44:46
you know. So to sit there and just be like, oh, I'm
44:50
just not gonna play because I don't feel like it, you know what I
44:52
mean? You can't sit here and play forty games and expect to be most
44:55
Valuable Player because you were all NBA for like the thirty nine of them.
45:00
You know what I mean, that's unfair to the guy that actually played all
45:02
eighty two or we played eighty uh you know eighty of eighty two or even
45:07
seventy to eighty two, you know what I mean. Yeah, start hitting
45:12
their pockets, start letting them know, like, hey, you know,
45:14
you bring home that award, you get you another half a million dollars or
45:16
one million or something like that. But also at the same time, no,
45:20
this is a great rule to have because ever since is Lowe's management has
45:23
happened, it has Yes, it's been a joke. It's been quite the
45:27
joke, you know. And like Candy said, you're getting paid top dollar
45:30
to play a kids game. How many players really make it to the pros?
45:36
Like one percent something like that. Two percent? You know, you're
45:38
lucky. Take advantage of it as much as you can. Turn over to
45:44
Jacob. I'll probably need every bit of these five six minutes. Well let
45:49
me tell you that you remember were talking about right hold on one secon befre
45:57
I turn or Jacob because I want to make my short playing a short at
45:59
like and so I'll at least as much Anyways, the NBA does not come
46:02
across as a bluetollar sport. Okay, it's obvious by the game's miss or
46:07
unncessaries. And second, I think that numbers should have been sixty five to
46:09
seventy. Okay, seventy to me is good enough. Sixty five they sat
46:14
there and it's not good. Seventy would be way better. Okay. I
46:19
said that the floor is yours, Jacob. I felt you'd probably use the
46:22
extra time so I get another exit. Well, Denzel, you remember what
46:25
we talked about the tournament, yep, I said, Remember when I said
46:31
things, a team like Orlando or whatever would have the chance to win because
46:37
a lot of these players aren't going to play it. They're not gonna want
46:42
to play it, you know, until the big game, like the semifinals
46:45
or whatever. They're like, there's money involved, there is all that kind
46:51
of thing, but it's also it's also a break. They just I just
46:53
read something on Lebron James that if you have a specific amount of minutes,
46:59
which he's well over it, you get you get a good you get yourself
47:04
about you from the league, and get as much as much time as you
47:07
want. That was a new and the CBA as much of as much time
47:12
as you want out, you know, and the load management thing. If
47:15
you get a certain amount of mens in your career, so he ain't playing
47:19
until a semi finals and you know it. And if they make it so
47:22
it's well, we were bringing up in an original thing of basketballs, did
47:28
we not. That's the whole thing. That's why I pick a crap team.
47:32
That's why I picked those. Then this happens. This happens right there.
47:37
These players don't want to play, they don't want to get all that
47:40
right there. And what's hilarious. You can understand the load management from the
47:45
old times when they were trucking each other down the lane and everything like that,
47:50
you would understand. But no, you didn't have that. But they
47:52
played the softest type of game we've ever seen. Now, no one hits
47:58
each other, no one's anything. But at the same time, this is
48:01
a a new world where they've played a billion games. Then they get to
48:06
them college, then they played the year in college, they played the NBA.
48:07
They are they're actually worn out at twenty two, twenty three years old.
48:12
Is it stupid? Yes it is. You shouldn't be that way,
48:15
But it goes back to what Candy said earlier. This is the thing they
48:21
are not using but one set of muscles. They're not getting everything built up,
48:25
so they're getting hurt easier. So it's all that kind of stuff.
48:30
When you guys said it is a money world, it's always been a certain
48:32
money world. They talked about Mike Dickon once one in eighteen thousand dollars from
48:37
from George Hollis, and they talk about it. He wanted money even then.
48:42
That does that time. But guess what, it's always been a money
48:45
world. It's a lawyer's world. Now it's lawyers and agents and they want
48:50
the best right on the spot. All right. The only thing I'm gonna
48:55
say before we close it out, We'll give you guys an opportunity to find
48:59
you out. It says. None of you guys are as old as I
49:00
am to understand tape delay. CBS, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, we
49:06
know that tape delay. Let's not lose sight of the humility that the NBA
49:08
was. Practically now, I'll just turn sixty. Yeah, well that means
49:15
I've turned one hundred and twenty. But at anyway, one can only hold
49:19
four candy if I ever get to that age. All right, now she's
49:22
just hoping I get to sixty one. But this beside the point. But
49:24
nevertheless, tape delay, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, David stern Old management.
49:31
Really that's all I have to say about it. So unfortunately, I
49:36
don't think this newer generation the last several years appreciate it sort of took to
49:39
get to this point, and I'm not sure my lifetime that they ever was.
49:43
So I still think the numbers should be seventy. And the name of
49:47
the night is Nolan Ryan. How about that? Look at that something and
49:51
I give it to Denzil even though he struck a chord with me tonight coming
49:53
on at the last minute. All right, I did good stuff. So
49:58
all right, well that said JB wy don't you'll everybody know how they can
50:00
get a hold of you. JB underscore the program Sideline Sports every Tuesday eight
50:06
thirty on NFL Alumni Media. The JJ Sports Express, which is usually at
50:13
seven pm Eastern, wasn't available tonight, Jeff Feel Better and then a confidential
50:20
after the show tonight at ten o'clock Eastern. Next week, going back to
50:24
the earlier time, a dead ZELB hosting bla blah bah bay Okay, j
50:30
Jacob trying to give the cliff note version. Oh no, no, no,
50:34
because I'm not going through the shows. I'm just going through my I
50:37
am on the Jacob Pundit, I did Twitter, I'm on Jake Pundit one,
50:42
on TikTok, I am on I am Jake the Pundit on sub stack
50:45
and substack and Ricochet, I am, I am working on Twitch, I've
50:52
I'm Patreon. I'm on a bunch of places plus all the shows I'm on
50:54
between sub Border Tribune and Sideline Sports. Well that's a good cliff notes.
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I'm pressuring you're making progress, as they say back home in Canada. Oh
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not quite home. I'm a mitt now never mind, forget what I said.
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Wins are in Detroit or close by. Yeah, I'm sure. All
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right, So this is gonna be less of a cliff notes and more of
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a PSA. If you don't know where I'm at by now or who I
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am, give your pair of eyes to someone who's actually going to utilize them
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correctly. Like that? All right? That was really good? I like
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that was really good. A lot of people can learn a lot of the
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shows, and this is a good one tonight, as we try to make
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them all good. But you know that PSA, you know it's pretty good
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since he set me off. All right, Andy, take it home.
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writing a book, Scott what else? Anything that I miss? No,
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you did a great That's why I say the best for lasting that was you,
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not me, So I'm not worry about that. I mean, well,
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the only thing I have to say is, once again, JB Ellis
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to you and Debbie, I want to wish you an early congratulations. And
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if you need advice on how to negotiate with the Mexicans, I'm sure the
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cell phone work in North America. I'll be more than happy to help you
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wear them out and get the best deal as you can and Cancoon's an incredible
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yourself a great time and looking forward to the new missus Ellis. She's a
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sweetheart and well if she had a sweetheart, we really wish you on the
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minute. Yeah, we're a family here Sideline and the Tribune, so we're
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one big family. Sometimes I may be a little bit bigger and louder family,
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and our partnership with Sideline continues to grow by the second. So with that
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said, on behalf of Candy. I've lng jb Ellis, Jacob Christmer and
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Denzil Snife. My name is Scott Morgan, Route the Motor City, Manmouth
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Recharge, hoping to Gilding to sleep tonight, don't hold your breath. Okay,
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thank you for joining us on this edition of the Sports Exchange. No
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programming tomorrow. Well, Kenny Ebly and I will be covering Miami and put
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them Cookman, but we'll be back at it leave on next week. So
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take care everybody and Candy take us home.