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Patriots Unfiltered 12/31: Dolphins Preview, Vrabel Presser/Reaction, Week 18 NFL Picks · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 2: The Worlds of Vegetal podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 3: The field goal kicker is stinks, I know, but.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but that was a cover, right, But you
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  Speaker 2: say that, But then they keep winning. They keep winning.
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  Speaker 2: How they're doing last week? So what they're in the
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  Speaker 2: playoffs and know they're not What do you mean they're not?
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  Speaker 2: I do want to talk about the Drake May nickname.
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  Speaker 2: Then the research and I understand how it started. I
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  Speaker 2: like the reasoning.
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  Speaker 3: I literally explained it to you last week.
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  Speaker 4: Matter why are you laughing sixteen minutes without had the exers.
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  Speaker 2: So Paul wants to do nicknames. I've got tons of
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  Speaker 2: them here, Drake O. This person's writing in the force
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  Speaker 2: Delete your Day.
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  Speaker 5: I for the nickname, and it came up with the
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  Speaker 5: humble Howitzer.
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  Speaker 4: I agree, it's friend.
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  Speaker 2: Now, but the nickname ill way, Drake May May the way?
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  Speaker 2: The way?
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  Speaker 1: Are you going to continue this tomorrow on Catch twenty?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah? This is Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: Com All right, welcome back to Patriots Unfiltered. If you
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  Speaker 2: were here yesterday, of course, it is Wednesday, New Year's
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  Speaker 2: Eve here at Jillette Stadium, and we're getting ready for
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  Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins Sunday at four twenty five.
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  Speaker 6: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And lots to talk about here regarding football and nicknames. Well,
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  Speaker 2: we're not going to get into that again, although I
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  Speaker 2: still still getting emails about that, but we'll talk about
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  Speaker 2: the Miami game coming up.
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  Speaker 4: As if you've read them and there was any one
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  Speaker 4: that was any good, you would.
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  Speaker 2: Have nodded to the exactly to you. Okay, nothing, nothing notable,
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  Speaker 2: But we'll talk about all the implications of the game
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  Speaker 2: and likely scenarios and all that stuff. As we all know,
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots are the AFC East champs and guaranteed in
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs. Now it's just a question of are they
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  Speaker 2: going to play in Wildcard Week? Are they going to
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  Speaker 2: have a buy which percentages are low, but you know
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  Speaker 2: you can you can still hold out hope for the
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  Speaker 2: Charges to beat the Broncos and then do they If not,
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  Speaker 2: do they hold on to the two seed. Lowest they
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  Speaker 2: can drop down to is the third seed?
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  Speaker 4: Right? Yeah? Yeah, but I do think that's important to
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  Speaker 4: hold to hold onto the two seed and at least
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  Speaker 4: give yourself the chance for those two home games.
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  Speaker 2: It's happened before, you know, when they were the two
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  Speaker 2: seed that year Denver got knocked off and all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, you've got the AFC Championship game here was
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  Speaker 2: it a letter fox?
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  Speaker 4: But I'm just talking about the divisional round. I want
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  Speaker 4: that divisional round to be a home game. Sure, if
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  Speaker 4: you're the two seed and you happen to make it
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  Speaker 4: to the Division A round, it's at home. It's guaranteed.
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  Speaker 4: You don't have to worry about what other teams do
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  Speaker 4: you host.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I if it didn't work out though, and
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  Speaker 7: this team had to go to Jacksonville Road Warriors Road Warriors,
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  Speaker 7: there's a weird confidence in Drake and warm weather climates.
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  Speaker 4: Now for me that I don't it's valid. It is
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  Speaker 4: a valid point. I don't want to go to anywhere,
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  Speaker 4: but if I don't have to, rather rather host it,
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  Speaker 4: stay home.
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  Speaker 1: What's last time Jacksonville hosted a playoff game.
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  Speaker 3: That they hosted that that Chargers come back?
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  Speaker 1: They hosted that one. I think so, yeah, two years ago.
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  Speaker 7: People in the pool, you know, are doing down there,
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  Speaker 7: get out of here in Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 4: I know, right, absolutely taken away in the last couple
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  Speaker 4: of years.
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  Speaker 2: I like it now.
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  Speaker 7: It was restored yesterday when I was on Patriots All Access,
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  Speaker 7: the flagship show.
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  Speaker 2: He just can't help himself called.
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  Speaker 1: Can I share it? Can I share a little story time?
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  Speaker 8: Though?
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  Speaker 7: I had this FOREV and I meant to tell him
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  Speaker 7: off air, but I'll share it because it's it's pretty embarrassing.
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  Speaker 6: So I got to do.
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  Speaker 1: Also, I know this isn't about this, but the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: this week with Brian Hoyer, and it was funny.
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  Speaker 7: So Bob Soci is the host, and it's me and
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  Speaker 7: Hoyer and and you know, and so she just kind
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  Speaker 7: of goes back and forth, is as Alex does on
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  Speaker 7: our show. And uh and so we asked me a
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  Speaker 7: question about the Digs touchdown of like, oh, it was
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  Speaker 7: just like you know, the Danny m Mondola touchdown two
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  Speaker 7: point conversion in the Super Bowl. You know, like, you know,
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  Speaker 7: what have you seen from people coming back? You know,
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  Speaker 7: from Josh coming back and stuff. And I'm like, you're
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  Speaker 7: asking me.
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  Speaker 1: This right now, you know, like you know, you Brian
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  Speaker 1: were here.
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  Speaker 7: It was like playing for him and I was like,
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  Speaker 7: you know, so I kind of rambled on a little bit.
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  Speaker 7: I didn't have a great answer, and then I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: you know, we even see some host duke as I
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  Speaker 7: had to throw a little hoss duke and and I
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  Speaker 7: kind of felt like I could feel like Brian Hoyer,
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  Speaker 7: like audibly sighing, given a little like, oh.
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  Speaker 4: Part of my soul just died right there, right. I
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  Speaker 4: thought you were going to say, well, in full disclosure,
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  Speaker 4: it was a fire a lot during the game on Sundays.
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  Speaker 4: We actually didn't see that as true.
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  Speaker 7: Probably not the best answer for television there, but you
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  Speaker 7: know I had to I had to throw a.
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  Speaker 4: Hots in the parking lot when that that touchdown happened.
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  Speaker 9: Did you just sit in a car together?
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  Speaker 6: Just now?
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  Speaker 1: I sat in my car, They said they stood. I
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  Speaker 1: was like trying to type and keep track of it, but.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I was going to do.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody had it on their phone. I had them.
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  Speaker 4: I think I cared about the game was over at
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  Speaker 4: that point. It wasn't really wasn't hovering around the fly
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  Speaker 4: watching the game.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure I saw that Dig's touchdown till the
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  Speaker 1: next day.
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  Speaker 4: Someone still hasn't seen it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it looked like the Danny A Mondola one
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  Speaker 1: from Super Shield screen head.
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  Speaker 4: I know exactly what happened.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't that the same play that uh, the Seahawks try
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  Speaker 2: to run that we intercepted a little bit now, Malcolm Butler, that.
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  Speaker 3: Ran a downfield adla thing was a screen adola playing.
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  Speaker 3: The play that Digs caught a touchdown on was the
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  Speaker 3: same exact play.
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  Speaker 1: It's called a slant flat.
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  Speaker 3: It's called a shield screen, shield screen. It's called a
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  Speaker 3: shield screen.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So it just seemed like it was just a
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  Speaker 2: quick slant off the line.
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  Speaker 3: It's a screen similar, that's a screen pass. He's got
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  Speaker 3: two guys in front of him blocking and then.
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  Speaker 1: They shield him. Yeah, the potential crackers.
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  Speaker 3: So all I gotta do is get it over the
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  Speaker 3: goal line. So just put the two guys in front
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  Speaker 3: of him, crow it to him quick.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, the the Seahawks players a pick the slant flat,
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  Speaker 3: pick play, screen pick whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Two different things, all right, slant on the screen are
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  Speaker 4: two different things.
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  Speaker 2: A screen could be a slant. He was slanting in
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  Speaker 2: the angle of the angle of.
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  Speaker 3: His today, not to day, going toward the goal.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I didn't see it, yeah, full the score
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  Speaker 4: was not going toward the goal.
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  Speaker 2: He slanted it and slanted and caught the ball. I
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  Speaker 2: believe you. I believe you.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't see Digson.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't slanting.
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  Speaker 2: Are we talking about the same play?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he caught the ball and he ran forward.
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  Speaker 4: He only had one touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: He basically what where was the play? What was the
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  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage? Like the one or the two exactly?
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  Speaker 2: So he basically turned and caught the ball right.
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  Speaker 3: They threw the ball to him quickly. He caught it.
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  Speaker 3: He took two steps and was in the end zone.
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  Speaker 2: He was going toward the end zone when he caught it, right.
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  Speaker 3: Like maybe he had his moment because he had a
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  Speaker 3: little bit.
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  Speaker 2: You were there. He had his back to us when
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  Speaker 2: he caught the ball, right, He.
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  Speaker 3: Had his back to us, Yes, in the press box.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe because he was slanting in facing Drake May.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yes or no?
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  Speaker 2: I don't what difference does it because because the direction
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  Speaker 2: of the route was a slant.
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  Speaker 3: You're right, I know him, right, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care what you want to call it. Screen whatever.
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  Speaker 2: He was slanting toward.
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  Speaker 3: The goal on he was he was his momentum was
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  Speaker 3: carrying him towards the I need to see it that that's.
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  Speaker 1: What all slicing towards the goal.
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  Speaker 4: I'm breaking out in hives, not being able to now
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  Speaker 4: going to get into different types of slants.
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  Speaker 3: Were talking about one step, now slam talking about a
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  Speaker 3: three steps. This is what they're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: This is what they do. They try to get you
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  Speaker 2: on the tap.
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  Speaker 4: All I can tell you is, I've heard a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people say it was Thedola play the doola player.
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  Speaker 4: I did see. I was at that Super Bowl. I
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  Speaker 4: was there. I was That was not a slant. That
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  Speaker 4: was a screen.
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  Speaker 1: This was behind the line of scrimmage, right, well.
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  Speaker 4: He was also kind of It's just like he might
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  Speaker 4: be coming toward the ball, but he's not slanting upfield, right, wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what.
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  Speaker 4: Diggs was doing. I didn't see it.
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  Speaker 2: This was not behind the line of scrimmage. For one thing.
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  Speaker 4: I can tell you that not behind the line of scrimmage.
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  Speaker 4: That's not the way it's been described to me.
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  Speaker 3: It was definitely the line.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh okay, all right, it was.
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  Speaker 4: At the one yard all right, all right, we're doing this.
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  Speaker 2: I guess we're doing this, all right.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not even arguing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm literally sitting next to you.
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  Speaker 3: Not even arguing.
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  Speaker 2: All right, well, that's good. We had something to argue about.
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  Speaker 4: It was like, was it like a three yard past three?
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  Speaker 4: Three years more than three? Yeah, so technically, I guess
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  Speaker 4: we could have been planting.
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  Speaker 2: The first thing, everybody. The first thing I thought about
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  Speaker 2: it is, oh, Malcolm Butler play. That's the first thing
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  Speaker 2: I thought.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's the wrong super Bowl play. This was the
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  Speaker 3: Amadola two points, I know, but I said, the first
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  Speaker 3: thing I thought about, well, those are two different plays.
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  Speaker 3: Was the Malcolm but All similar.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It's a slant flat.
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  Speaker 3: I really wasn't trying to argue.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, I brought up host.
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  Speaker 3: They'll do the slant tree a different day.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, listen, there is a slim possibility. I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 2: but it's slim. It's always it is really slim.
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. Okay, what else? What else?
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  Speaker 6: What else?
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  Speaker 4: Is New Year's Eve?
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  Speaker 2: New Year's what's your patriots read.
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  Speaker 4: This year?
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  Speaker 9: We should talk about that.
• 10:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Alex, you strike me as a resolution person.
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  Speaker 9: Last year I tried to give up cursing, Oh didn't work.
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  Speaker 4: How long did that go?
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  Speaker 9: Like a month?
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  Speaker 4: You went a month without cursing. That's impressive.
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  Speaker 6: I know.
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't go an hour, my favorite. I couldn't make
• 10:21
  Speaker 4: it an hour. Maybe actually had money on the line
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  Speaker 4: and couldn't make it.
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  Speaker 9: It's difficult for me. I don't know why it's difficult
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  Speaker 9: for me.
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  Speaker 10: But like when we had that beginning of the year
• 10:29
  Speaker 10: of meeting with Rabel and he's apologizing for cursing in
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  Speaker 10: front of me, and I'm like, you don't know me
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  Speaker 10: that well.
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: The young bros these days throw out the F bomb
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  Speaker 2: like it's just part of their their speech. I think
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: it's like nothing.
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  Speaker 10: I think Bill Burr has a pretty funny bit where
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  Speaker 10: like New England is the only place where the F
• 10:48
  Speaker 10: word can be a verb, a noun, and adjective, all
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  Speaker 10: of it verb.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's it's wild. Yeah. So if people want to
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  Speaker 2: call right in with their New Year Patriots New Year's,
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  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't want to hear about your personal ones.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care. But this is about patriots, Okay, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't have one.
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  Speaker 1: I just thought of it, think about it, just try
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  Speaker 1: to be a little bit more positive about the team.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, take after Paul. Yeah, positive Paul.
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  Speaker 4: This year my new year's resolution or adjust by what's
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  Speaker 4: happening on the field.
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  Speaker 2: How my newest resolution is to make paula Patriots fan.
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  Speaker 4: All I can tell you is when they go four
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  Speaker 4: and thirteen, there's not a lot to be positive about.
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  Speaker 4: Fred somehow did it for a whole two years straight.
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  Speaker 4: But I couldn't do it when they go fourteen and three.
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  Speaker 4: I don't need any prodding to be positive in the game.
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  Speaker 9: It was a long couple of years.
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  Speaker 4: We did well, Fred, We got through it, did we?
• 11:40
  Speaker 4: Fred did it.
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  Speaker 6: Better than.
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  Speaker 4: I bag dag Bob pulled it off.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think probably a month or a month
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  Speaker 2: and a half until last year I turned.
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  Speaker 6: I turned.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of saw the writing on the wall.
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  Speaker 2: There's there's no redemption for this season, all right.
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  Speaker 4: Was it the eighteen consecutive run place that Jacksonville ran
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  Speaker 4: in London?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah?
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  Speaker 10: That was that was really okay, But real quick, for
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  Speaker 10: the people that don't read the newsletter, we have end
• 12:14
  Speaker 10: of year superlatives for the show this year, like awards,
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  Speaker 10: So like, let me actually just pull it up. Okay,
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  Speaker 10: So this newsletter this week we will have the winners
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  Speaker 10: of best argument, best bit, best caller, best call, best emailer,
• 12:32
  Speaker 10: best email, and best fretism.
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  Speaker 2: I think I got it and I got a I
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: got a legitimate complaint about this that we should have
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: given people notice that we were going to do this early.
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  Speaker 9: I just got last week.
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  Speaker 2: So right, so for next year, we're going to do
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  Speaker 2: this again next year.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, so we'll make it a tradition. Yeah, the first annual.
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  Speaker 4: And it's not too late if you want to put
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  Speaker 4: in whether or not digs with slant or screenargument of
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  Speaker 4: the Okay, that's.
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  Speaker 2: What I said.
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  Speaker 9: Nothing's going to be past commander's argument.
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  Speaker 3: The point four air yards. Okay, so technically speaking it
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  Speaker 3: was past you know, okay down in the field.
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  Speaker 4: Andy, you need to you need to know to clear victory.
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  Speaker 2: We're making progress. We're making progress. We're making progress.
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  Speaker 3: So therefore, in that respect, you were correct. See I
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  Speaker 3: can admit that.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, big, that hurt.
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  Speaker 3: That's big of me.
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  Speaker 9: Do you feel, okay?
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  Speaker 2: Point four that's like you know, Muhammad Ali losing to
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  Speaker 2: some tomato can in a in a boxing match for him,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 4: When he got knocked down by what's his face Trevor Burrow,
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  Speaker 4: who's the guy, Chuck Webner, Chuck.
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  Speaker 1: Tyson, who's the one that that Douglas that was a
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  Speaker 1: legitimate knockout?
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  Speaker 4: Like he beat the crap on. Tyson just wasn't ready
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  Speaker 4: for the fight. Yeah, I guess he didn't know it
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  Speaker 4: was a damn show. He thought it was a damn fight.
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  Speaker 2: So all right, nobody knows. Nobody knows slants like fields.
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  Speaker 2: I would love to.
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  Speaker 3: Talk slang Rose, But what's your favorite kind of slant?
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  Speaker 1: Just the complete one?
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  Speaker 9: You just did the thing?
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  Speaker 10: The one people like, what are your favorite players that
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  Speaker 10: men due to women when they say they like in
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  Speaker 10: a different way.
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  Speaker 3: You're right, Yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 1: Listen.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know the anatomies of all these slants.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I just know what I see, that's all. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It's this smile and just utter contentment in three really
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  Speaker 4: really looks. It looks great on you.
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  Speaker 3: There's a big difference.
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  Speaker 2: I wear it well.
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  Speaker 3: You run a three step slant when you're supposed to
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  Speaker 3: run a five. That's an incompete pack.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, as are created well can be behind the skinny slants, right, yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, to be confused with a skinny post which is
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  Speaker 4: a little different kind of a sling.
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  Speaker 3: It's basically the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but an arrow, it's an arrow.
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  Speaker 3: Raw route depends on the playbook. Some ARA routes are flash.
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  Speaker 4: Can I throw like a serious route question at you?
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  Speaker 3: Second?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you did you watch it? Did
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  Speaker 4: you ever watch any of your Yeah, it is a
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  Speaker 4: serious one. Your your idol, Kyle Shanahan Sunday night. You
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: watch much of that game?
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: What do you think.
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: Ricky Piersoll happened to be like one of the two
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: plays I was watching during the game, because you know,
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: the night games pulse a little old.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: He can't stay up for the.
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: Did you see that route where he kind of like
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: went like kind of hard on an incut and then
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: basically just stopped on a dime, drifted back out to
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: the sideline. What would you call that route? It's called
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: a blaze out blaze outs, and I not heard that term.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: Once again, my instincts were right. I had not heard
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: that term.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: Not to nitpick. I mean, I'm sure, I'm listen, I'm
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: sure it's called a blaze out, but in other places
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: it's probably called other things.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, so the patriot might call that so what
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: would you call it to.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Someone who either who doesn't know the lexicon, what would
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: you call it? Out and out right?
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: But but it's got a little flair to it, so
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: so and out with a tail. No, it's the other way,
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: do you know the one there he's he runs, he
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: stems it up and he runs it like he's going
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: to break in and he gets the corner to bite
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: on the fact that he's going to break in, and
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: then he breaks out.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: It was almost like a deeper jerk route.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: So it's an out with the head.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: It was so far downfield and it took so much
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: with a nod is what we call it.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: With a nod, a little nod to the see that's
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: that's the thing, I think, and then you're out.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's it.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: That's what it is.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Glimpsed him high foot right there like a blaze route
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: could mean nothing on another team like we don't we
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: don't call I don't know what you're talking about. But
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: when we went out with a fake that goes, you know,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: to the other side, we have another name for.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: That, correct, But I would say that if you, for instance,
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: let's say Josh McDaniels calls it something different and than
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan Josh McDaniel's. If a new receiver comes in
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: and says, oh, you want me to run a blaze out,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: He's still going to know what that is. It's not
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: like we're talking like.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Because he's explained the route to him like figuratively.
• 17:11
  Speaker 12: No.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: No, I mean like you kind of just like no
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: different languages a little bit enough, right, fair enough?
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But I'm just saying that sometimes, like football, people
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: can you know, get so involved in their lexicon that
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: it's really just gibberish. They can actually explain it in
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: a way that everyone could mean it, but the code
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: words kind of gives them that shield of knowledge, you
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: know what I mean.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: It's alex Is all over you too.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, I think that, you know, the
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: differences is like an out is just an out without
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: the little snazzy snus at the top, right, whereas the
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: blaze out has a little But I don't need to
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: do it again. But my route was great, that's called
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: suddenness of the up the rally, great, great separation, right,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: But if you don't, if you you know, you don't,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: you just call it an out. Now we're just running
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: it out like it's a different route.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: Right, And what I think, in all seriousness again, what
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: made this particular play I think effective was Rickey Pearsall
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: really ran the route well. He sold it really well.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: And so you have to have an ability to you know,
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: to stop and start ability. Not everybody can go one
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: hundred percent stop on a dime cut one way and
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: then go the other way.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: So let me ask you a question. Did And I'm
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: probably gonna sound stupid here, but it's just an honest
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: question that I have. What do you call the pass
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: that is behind the line of scrimmages is parallel to
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage Those quick throws that are you know,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: an our route, those are called an out route and
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: now now, oh anw route thrown it. Now, if I'm
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: doing the blog during the game and I say, oh,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: that was an now route, no one's gonna know what
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: that is, I would agree with you on that, you know.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I mean there's a couple of different things
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: like you're talking about, like probably like the quarter just
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: going to see off coverage in the guy's eight yards
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: off the line of stoomage and he's just going to
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: take the completion right and Usually that's like kind of
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: like an RPO where it's probably a run play, but
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: he sees the off coverage, he's just gonna throw it
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: out there. Most people call that a now route because
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: you're just you're popping up and you're throwing it now.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Okay. And then in your opinion, what constitutes the flat,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Like there's a pass to the flat. I think people
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: have different opinions and what that is.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: So I would constitute the flat. And it depends, like
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: because in college the hash marks are wider, right, So
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: in the college you might call it like the area
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: from the hash marks to the sideline. The NFL, I
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: call it the numbers to the sideline is usually the flat.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Anywhere down the field?
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Well, no, like underneath I would say plus or minus
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: five yard yes, okay.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like the short area of the field down there.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: That's that's what I think. It's that short pass that's
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: kind of to the side there.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Like I wouldn't say a twenty yard out was the
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: throw to the flat?
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Right now? I don't either right now, but sometimes in
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: my mind, I'm calling that now pass which is parallel
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: to the line. To me, that's a flat pass. I
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: call it myself that's my own lexicon. That's a flat
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: pass because it's flat.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I think there's probably different kinds, but I
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: think you could have that like is the running if
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: like a running back to take a little leg almost
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: like a little orbit. Like well, I don't call that
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: little swing pass.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: That's like a wheel router down the side, down the
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: side of it, or I call that a swing pass.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I'm just talking about like wide receivers at the line
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: of scrimmage, ball is snapped, he takes two steps back,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: and the quarterback immediately throws.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: You would call that a now route because it depends.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: I just call it a screen, but I know what
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: he's talking about it.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I don't call it a screen because there's no one
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: in front, because the.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Guy's off covered Aaron Rodgers the Thursday night game last
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: year when the Jets beat the Patriots, they did that
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: like three or four times they caught. I think Lazard's
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: touchdown was a play like that that I don't think
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: out of a huddle supposed to be a quick out
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: or a quick screen till wizard, but just off coverages
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: off Rogers boom and.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Maybe now route. Yeah, Rogers is another term.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: I'm not really familiar.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Rogers is really known for those, because you know, he'll
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: just read the the technique of the corner and usually
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: it's a run play. It's usually supposed to be a handoff.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: But if he sees that space and he's got a
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: matchup out there that he likes, he might just throw
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: it out there and then, like in that situation, I think,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: not trying to knock Marcus Jones, but he was trying
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: to cover Alan Lazard, which is obviously a huge size mismatch.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: So he he just threw it right out to Lazard
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: and let him. Now you're playing.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Now you make a guy miss.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Now it's playing ground rules, right right.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So I I never knew what the name
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: of that was, so I always call it a flat
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: pass because it's kind of the flat of flat. It's
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: not to the but to me, that's not to the flat.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: A flat is over the line of scrimmage. Somewhere this
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: is behind the line of scrimmage.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: I think it's kind of the same.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I see what you're saying, you know what
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: I mean. But that's good route talk.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's the point, like, you know, that's better
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: than nicknames.
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, I just go back to uh weatherman, and
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: a weatherman can sit up there and tell you all
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: about barometric pressure and all that, and some people that's
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: their jam, and other people just want to know if
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: it's going to rain it right, So you know, you
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: have to explain to people whether or not it's raining,
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: and that's your blog.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: And Evans they like to know more of the detail.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: They like to know some of the nuance of it.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: But you know, there's nine nine.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Routes you can but I would say ninety percent of
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: the football population if you just said he threw a
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: now pass or a now route, they wouldn't know what
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: that is.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: But some people want to know.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: But you then have to explain it. Sure, a now
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: route which is a pass immediately out of the hands
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: of whatever you you know, how you want to explain it?
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, do a little appendix at the bottom,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: like with the numbers and a little small you know, but.
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: There's zero is zero route, I mean one through nine.
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: I know you know that generally you cover it in
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: those and I mean you can probably.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not a numbers guy. I the numbers on
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: the routes, it's you're they're a digit system, you're because
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: not everybody does the.
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: Number no, sure, but if you're trying to explain a
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: simple route, you could probably get it under that.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: The Patriots, dude, are not a digit system with routes,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: so they don't go one, two, three, four five.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: But I I could see both ways that the digit
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: systems easier to articulate in a play call. So that's
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: why it's it's more streamlined in that sense. But I
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: think it's also kind of easier in some ways for
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: guys because if you say to them, like, we want you,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: you know, to run a you know whatever it is
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: on the on the number scale, like now, okay, well
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: then you have to take that number in your head
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: and then you have to think, okay, what number is that? Okay,
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: what number is that route? Whereas the Patriots just say
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: you're running a slant right.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: So it's just makes sense to me.
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's concepts for them, right, like smash and
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: you're gonna run smash to the right.
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: They have two receiver concepts, they have three receiver concepts. Uh,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: and then they you know, they put the whole concept together,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: you know, so like hass juke is you know hass
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: is hitching on the outside, seam on the inside, so
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: they call that has and so then they'll call the
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: play like hasty juke, which is hass on the outside
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: and the Z is running the.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Juke rout Jordan Right.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Speaking of cursing, Bill from Albuquerque says, most psychological studies
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: say that people who curse are usually more intelligent and
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: happier than people who don't. And as Mark Twain once said,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: cursing brings relief found not even in prayer.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 24:36
  Speaker 9: Well, there you go, I'll take it. But intelligent and
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: I'm pretty happy.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: A lot of people say it's just a sign of ignorance,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: like you can't come up.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: With a better word, like Well, Eisenhower said, you know
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: the famous general he said, I don't swear because it
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: gives people an excuse not to listen to me. Well
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: that was back in the fifties.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, this guy's swearing.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: The general, you know, Eisenhower, not the president, the general.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Well he said it while he was a general.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying you're wrong, obviously, that's you know why
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: he was president.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's see. Resolutions are coming in Nick
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: in North Dakota My favorite. My Patriots resolution is to
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: finally thank Matt Patricia for his work as offensive coordinator
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: during the twenty two season. Good resolution, I like it.
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: See that's a good bit too.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: All jokes aside, I'm excited for some Patriots playoff football.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Thanks for the great content. That's Nick. In North Dakota,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Spie has a resolution. His is to not overreact if
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: the Patriots don't make the super Bowl, but not to
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: underreact if they go one and done. So that's an
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: interesting reaction temperance. Yeah.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess you can overreact if they go to
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: the super Bowl. That would be pretty awesome.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what pants off.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: That's fair to over.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Hants off her and gainstt uh in honor of Cam Newton. Nicknames, No,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: we're not doing nicknames. No more nicknames, no nicknames, just resolutions.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: Just anger from French.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean he's come out fire in today like.
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: It's Drake Drake may May right, and we like the
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: skipping rip.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: The skipping rip should stay in the pantheon of little monikers.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: It sounds like a roller coaster like old time.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Credits to Ted Johnson, the first guy I heard he
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: was the term and I think it accurately describes what
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: he does when he throws in that way.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I need the Leo DiCaprio meme where he's like, you know, looking.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: At the TV.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: That's because when they that's what happened.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Last week, I was like, man, there it is, and then.
• 26:43
  Speaker 11: That was a slant.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: We're watching the Iowa Vanderbilt. It's, uh, you know, the
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: ever popular RelA Questa Bowl, and this is much more
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: similar to the Malcolm Butler pick. Yeah.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: Do you guys find like and I have, I have
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: a little bit interest in the college you know, CFP playoffs,
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: But you think that the CFP Playoffs has kind of
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: even further pushed games like this down the stairs column?
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: No, no, there's people games. These games were always there
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: was only they've added games of relevance because these games
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: already didn't matter. It was only two teams that really mattered.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Those are the ones that were playing the championship. I
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: think you could disagree with that.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: I think you can make a slight argument that it
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: actually devalues like the Rose Bowl and the Sugar Bowl
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: because those bowls are now not those this is what
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: the quarterfinals, right or semifinals.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's not It's not like you won the
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Rose Bowl. Who cares? You know, you know what I mean.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: You're talking about the status are saying we won the
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Rose Bowl, Okay, But what I'm saying is the year
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: that any year that the Rose Bowl wasn't deciding the
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: national championship made it lesser than what it is now.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Of course, it's now deciding who's going to go to
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: the National chief.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Stay the road and then you know, I put this,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: and they still do that, but like it's not as
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: meaningful because you didn't win anything yet, you know, versus
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: before your Rose Bowl champs.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: But I also like the other bowls though were already irrelevant.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: They were always irrelevant, but even more now. Like even
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: back then, like every bowl was kind of equal except
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: for the one that had the you know, for the championship.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: You know, so like if your team was in the
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Liberty Bowl, okay, you know we're gonna win the Liberty Bowl.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: But now it doesn't matter because you're not in the playoffs.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, but it used to be like even the
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Bulls that weren't the championship game. Like when there's BCS
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: days like the Rose Bowl, Fiesta Sugar Orange Bowl, Cotton Bowl. Yeah,
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: like those bulls did matter even if it wasn't for
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: the national championship.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: I don't think they mattered more then than they do now.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know those that are going to marrow.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Because it's a bigger game now.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: It's just different that I hear what Paul is saying,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: but it's just it's just a different type of matter.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think you're all also just talking about
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: the New Year's Day bulls. Yeah, those were once huge,
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: even if they weren't for the national title. I'm sorry.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: The Independence Bowl and the Blue Bonnet Bowl were never huge.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: And these are the games that are being played that
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: we're talking about, right, they were never relevant to anybody.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: A Rental Car Bowl was, right, anybody other than the
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: like when Doug Flutey was at BC, BC was a
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: pretty big deal around here. They were, and they played
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: in the Liberty Bowl once and it was a huge
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: deal for Boston College, but it wasn't a huge deal
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: around the country. No one cared.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, but you like the Pop Tarts Bowl, Admit it's funny.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Oh no, they got there and the.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: Human the purpose like that, you know in general likes
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: I just don't think they're any less relevant today than
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: they were ten years ago.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised because no one loves tradition. Irrelevant than tradition.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: I would say I'm a I'm an old school traditionalist.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: But those Bulls were never a big deal. Now I
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: watch them because I'm a loser. I watched that stuff. Well,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: I don't watch like these bowl games. I did watch
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: a good Illinois and Tennessee last night was a pretty
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: good game. I did watch a good chunk of that.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: They just they need better names, like the con Bowls,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: like at least those are the sponsors.
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: Sponsors have gotten into it and now everything.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Need But if they didn't, the Bob's Discount furniture, I'll
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: just keep going until I get all my reads done,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: the Bud light.
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: Bulbs, which was that easy to watch, the Bud light Bulb,
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: the Bront Bowl, the Bront Bowl.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: But these games wouldn't exist anymore if they didn't have
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: these sponsors, these names like the Road, like even the
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: Big Bulls are now corporate sponsored, but they still have it.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: It's like the whatever, the All State Sugar Bowl, whatever.
• 30:54
  Speaker 9: They keep the name, but just add the little I don't.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Care for it.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: That's the name. That's where you drop. I don't care,
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: and I don't care.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Just a reminder, Mike Rabel will be speaking at one
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: ten today, so we'll be going to that live. You
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: might want to tune in for that. Eight five five,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Pats five hundred is the hotline. Let's get to the phones.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: We'll start with Ken in Florida. What's up, Ken?
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: Can you hear me?
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Guys?
• 31:21
  Speaker 13: Yeah, Hey, hey, Pats, let's go, baby. Yeah, Hey, I
• 31:28
  Speaker 13: just gotta I think to say about the conversation yesterday
• 31:33
  Speaker 13: about the nickname.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Oh boy, okay, go ahead.
• 31:36
  Speaker 13: I know, I know, Fred, I know you said it's over.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but Fred, you and Paulie I.
• 31:42
  Speaker 13: Got to be a little bit disappointed, you know, because, uh,
• 31:46
  Speaker 13: you know, we're we're an older school that thing there.
• 31:49
  Speaker 13: We can't chant it in the stadium, you know, Drake
• 31:55
  Speaker 13: Drake May.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: May No, well you don't even have it right and VP.
• 32:02
  Speaker 13: Jimp p Yeah, hey, but I was kind of thinking
• 32:05
  Speaker 13: about like a great stadium chant kind of name, you know,
• 32:12
  Speaker 13: like the greatest of all time in the stadium, maximous,
• 32:17
  Speaker 13: maximous Maximus.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Are you not entertained control of that?
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: Are you not entertained exactly.
• 32:24
  Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, that's not that important.
• 32:26
  Speaker 11: Guys.
• 32:26
  Speaker 13: Let's go, let's let's win this thing.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, thanks, I'm saying, well, I wish people would have
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: something good. Uh, Nathan Connecticut, we can hear you, all right.
• 32:43
  Speaker 14: I just wanted to ask your thoughts on this.
• 32:46
  Speaker 15: I know, but the news and digs just coming out yesterday,
• 32:49
  Speaker 15: it's been uh, it's.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Been a lot.
• 32:51
  Speaker 15: It's been a lot to like kind of swallow.
• 32:53
  Speaker 16: But uh.
• 32:54
  Speaker 15: Also today we got news of Christian bar More is
• 32:57
  Speaker 15: also facing some charges. I think I feel like a
• 33:00
  Speaker 15: good new Year's resolution for the team this, this upcoming
• 33:04
  Speaker 15: twenty six would just be start fresh on behaviors.
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: Because this isn't us. We're better than this.
• 33:12
  Speaker 15: And you know, going into the playoffs, it's just not
• 33:15
  Speaker 15: good if these guys are going to be suspended or
• 33:17
  Speaker 15: possibly disciplines yet, it would.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Not be good. All right, that's a good resolution. Ye
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: don't put yourself in bad situations.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Christian is in La. What's up? Christian?
• 33:33
  Speaker 16: Hey you guys, Happy Wednesday. Happy New Year to you all.
• 33:36
  Speaker 16: I hope you guys have a great New Years everything
• 33:38
  Speaker 16: that you desire.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: You too, You too, Christians, Thank you guys.
• 33:41
  Speaker 16: Man, you guys are really cool guys. I love calling
• 33:43
  Speaker 16: in and it's just been a blast to be a
• 33:45
  Speaker 16: part of the family. But on my New Year's resolution
• 33:49
  Speaker 16: is to find new and creative ways to challenge Paul. Okaylution,
• 33:53
  Speaker 16: I like that.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, so far you're doing really well because his
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: doctor told him he has to cut down on in
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: l A.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: On my football stuff. A show friend, I'll be.
• 34:14
  Speaker 11: The police tell.
• 34:18
  Speaker 16: On my football stuff. I want to know who you
• 34:20
  Speaker 16: guys think. But each game that we could play in
• 34:23
  Speaker 16: the playoffs, the one player that we if we shut
• 34:26
  Speaker 16: that player down, we could make it to the next
• 34:28
  Speaker 16: game addition to the Super Bowl.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Who's the quarterback of each team?
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
• 34:32
  Speaker 17: The quarterback in the quarter whoever the quarterback, the first
• 34:36
  Speaker 17: one would be Herbert if just look like the most
• 34:39
  Speaker 17: likely opponent, I would have quartered back guys besides the
• 34:42
  Speaker 17: quarterback outside of the quarterback.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, if we played Baltimore for some reason
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: and Jackson wasn't playing, it's it's.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to say Derek Henry and Jackson plays
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: or not. I mean, they couldn't control Derrek Henry in
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: that game, and they almost lost. Yeah, playing him, what if?
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: What if we're playing Pittsburgh, who Paul doesn't think is
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: going to make the playoffs, But if.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: They them, it would be to me the running game
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: in general.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's a tough one.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: They the k right, Yeah, can't.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: I saw yesterday. It kind of flew under the radar
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: because we're not Steelers unfiltered. But Darnell Washington is out
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: for the year for the Steelers, huge loss for them.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Three hundred pound tight end who plays like a tackle
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: and runs like a tight end and he's a hell
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: of a player.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: So that thanks Christian.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: That's a big, big loss for them.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: But I would say with Pittsburgh, I think if they're
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: going to have any success offensively, it's gain well in
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: Warren getting it going. So that's been a little bit
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: of a weakness since Milton Williams has been out. That
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: would be the thing I.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Would And Houston is that defensive front.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Edge guys Hunter and him, move the pocket, slide the protection.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Dsonville, Jakobe Myers.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say turnovers, I don't know. Yeah,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: their defense has been the turnover machine and that's how
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: they've won a lot of games this year is turning
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: teams over. And the one thing about Jacksonville, you know
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: that usually doesn't sustain. So like if I was Jacksonville, like.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: And Chicago, their two defenses have been completely reliant on
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: taking the ball right.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: So if you don't turn it over against Jacksonville, I
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: think he'd be in pretty good shape.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, the lack what about the lack the Chargers.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: That's the Herbert for me, just the quarterback, probably Quintin Johnston.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: I mean we're talking just offense.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: I mean like Cleil Mack and Derwin James can still
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: play on their defense.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Guys got a bunch of sacks and pressures too.
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: I don't know, I just I wondered about Keenan Allen
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: still seems like he continues to be I'm one of
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: a motor for them and an engine.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: I like the Marion Hampton at points, but I feel
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: like watching him last week, he just he's struggling to
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: get free a little bit.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: But it's more I would say with the Chargers outside
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: of Herbert like, their defensive scheme is really good. And
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Jesse Minterer, their defensive coordinator, is going to be on
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: short list for head coaching jobs and things like that.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: They gotta really they disguise it. They you know, spin
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: the dial a lot, and you know, play different match
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: coverages and things like that. They're they're a complicated defense
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: to go up against. But that's not really like, all right, person.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: We might as well finish finish off the list Denver.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's the Edges would be a concern for.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: The past Rush in general. I think they're still leading
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: the league, right, Yeah, Zach Allen.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: The middle, Yeah, they got a good front. He's a beast, Okay,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: but I don't know. Bonux is so sporadic, you know,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, I.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Mean Courtland Sutton's are number one receiver, but they I
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: think it's more about that defense, right and you know,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: how can you score.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: On the Their defense has been leaking lately, it has,
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: That's what Brian Hoyer said.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Yes, Jacksonville, I mean Jacksonvill went right up and down
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: the field.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: As Yeah, he was just he was.
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: Brian horse said on the show that he's like, you know,
• 38:15
  Speaker 7: I've been watching Houston and Denver, and I'm like, there's
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: not really a comparison between the edge Rush to tru.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Defense to Houston's.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe Houston's got the much better defense, but I
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: don't think that defense is as good outside of that Dome.
• 38:27
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Also, like with Denver, there's so much of their defense
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: as certain But like the way the Patriots play offense,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: it's not like they have like this number one receiver
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: that they have to feed the ball to otherwise it
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: doesn't work.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: So you know, it's.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Certain like you go up against certain matchups where he
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: can shadow whoever their number one guy is and take
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: them out of the game, that that becomes hard.
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's just I kind of feel like no
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: matter who they play, the theme is protect the edges
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: because you know, there's some really good edge rushers in
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: this league. I mean, Josh Heinz Allen, right, he's another one.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: And with having a really good year when you start
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: talking about Denver a little bit too, and that's certain thing.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: If Certain could take one, you know, if if he
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: were to take Digs out, and now you don't have
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: mac Hollins, so now you're asking, you know, some other
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: guys to do some volume stuff that they you know,
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: like Booty has been really good, but it's not really
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: been a volume guy most of the year. I think
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: he may have had won one game, one of two games.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, if he had more than two games with
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: more than four or five catches, I'd be surprised. So
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: you're asking him to do something he really hasn't done.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And Riley Moss on the other side has gotten
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: picked on all year, all year, and so that that's
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: their vulnerable outside to wear that matchup.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Yep, you know, I know, Paul, you mentioned about volume
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: and really the volume people have been Diggs, Holland's.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: A little bit and the tight ends right.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: But I'm telling you, I know you're gonna laugh. But Chisholm,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I think I don't.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's going to be He could be.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: He could be a volume.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: He's going to be active. They only have five healthy receivers.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I think Booty will be back, Yeah.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: But they would sell him. They have five Booty digs,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Pop Williams Chisholm because Mac Collinson not gonna play.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure he's gonna be active.
• 40:09
  Speaker 18: Might be.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: I'm not telling you. I'm not telling you he won't
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: be active. I'm not going to be surprised if he's not.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: Like if they're missing one receiver. I just it just
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: knocks Williams up. Williams doesn't play when all those four guys.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: Williams really doesn't play. So now you have four guys
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: with Williams. Now, maybe they'll say, well, we can't really
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: rely on Williams. We need another guy. It could be him.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't know what you're seeing.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: That said.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: Everybody else doesn't see this and short spaces Okay, I
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: didn't see that, but whatever.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: He's the uh. I mean, they've last year. Last week
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: was the first time that they didn't have five receivers
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: active in the game because both guys were hurt, Booty, and.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: That's why you had to play. That's my point.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But I'm just saying, like every other game of
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: the year, they've had five he active on game days.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: So if they stick with that, then he would be
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: he has to be the fifth. He's the default.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to be surprised if either way. Let's
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: just put it that way, because they've had basically four
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: guys play. I mean even lately it's been three because
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: Douglas hasn't really even gotten any snaps lately.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I won't be surprised if he does play that,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Josh doesn't reach into the West Welker playbook and get
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: him on those West Welker routes Like.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: I think that would be a terrible waste of Drake
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: Drake May May.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: What do you call those wes Welker routes any any?
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Is there any of those slot Weaver routes routes?
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: I mean we could just call him options options. Yeah, yeah,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: we call him options. Other places might call him choice routes.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Usually you have one guy within the concept that has
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: an option or choice and it's just kind of get open,
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: you know, whatever you want to do. They sometimes they
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: do it with Hunter Henry too, but Diggs does it
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: most of the time.
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: I like the one Diggs did last week though, where
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: it was like he came out, he kind of stopped
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: like he was gonna go, and then he went back
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: like the way he was going.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah a little bit.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: It's a juke rout. Yeah, he gave it a little
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: like three.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, like an extra move, you know, crowd in
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: and out and get.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: On that one.
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: But he did that guy.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: That guy had no chance. He was in a blunder.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Separation all right.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Uh, back to the hot line. We go and it
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: is Mike and Long Island. What's up, Mike, Mike, Mike.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: You guys and girls, Hey Mike little here.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: Uh two quick statements and they question, Uh, my wife
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: got my new brunt boots for Christmas. They broke in
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: like twenty minutes.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: They rule. I love them.
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: Evans comment on hearing d Train for the first time
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: yesterday cracked.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Me up when I was Yeah, that's tough man, that's
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: a tough one.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: But he still calls me to and he call him
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: train across guy.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: It's a horrible nickname. And uh.
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: With his performance on Sunday, he think that was enough
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: to put him over the edge for Offensive Rookie of
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: the Year.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, I still get starting play and the West Welker
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: a little bit of.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: See he's still and I'm being sinceres. He reminds me
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: a lot more of a Mandola than Edelman and Welker, Like,
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: I think he's more of like uh wrong with that, Yeah,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: I think he's more Ammondola and say that just the
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: way that he plays. I think Edelman was more explosive, faster. Certainly,
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: I think Welker was quicker Amandola and him kind of
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: are a little bit like sturdier, a little bit more
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: thicker builds. But I I Josh McDaniel said the same
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: thing in the summertime. He said that, you know, of
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: all the guys, he reminds him the most of Ammadola.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: And I think edelman straight line speed was underrated. I
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: think he was pretty fast and uh and so I
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: think that was different like.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: For for a little guy. He had long strides.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like I know the turf Monster got Chisholm. But
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: like everybody's like he might.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Have scored in the I don't think so excited.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: I think he would have been caught. But like Edelman
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: doesn't get caught, and I'm in on that throws his
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: house in that he's he's fast.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Let's go to DeShawn in Virginia. I hate DeShawn Hood.
• 44:10
  Speaker 8: Guys, how was going all right?
• 44:13
  Speaker 19: Good?
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: Basically when I was looking in the event that Alex
• 44:16
  Speaker 8: on Catch twenty thirty, thing I watched wanting to leave
• 44:17
  Speaker 8: off was about the defense. I mean, when they talking
• 44:20
  Speaker 8: about like what the possis to get the pictures beat,
• 44:23
  Speaker 8: I think is six with the defense of it, because
• 44:25
  Speaker 8: that I don't really like the concept of them playing
• 44:28
  Speaker 8: so much don't. I don't know if it's because they
• 44:32
  Speaker 8: can't play that well mainly because of maybe intellectually or
• 44:36
  Speaker 8: maybe certainly not sound like other teams are. When I
• 44:38
  Speaker 8: watched the other teams play zone, and like I watched
• 44:41
  Speaker 8: other teams when they st get this team, it's like
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: they always spicedly convert for first down even on third
• 44:47
  Speaker 8: downs away. But that's my biggest spears when as they
• 44:49
  Speaker 8: able to play a guy like Josh Allen, I play
• 44:51
  Speaker 8: that that day, but if I would never be able
• 44:53
  Speaker 8: to get him off the field, and that went that.
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: But he was worry about the deep. I sink. I
• 44:56
  Speaker 8: try to play man to get the deep as the
• 44:59
  Speaker 8: funt that not very good first in the quarterback, you know.
• 45:02
  Speaker 8: You know, so that way they play much better defense
• 45:05
  Speaker 8: playing on his own. But they're not very good at
• 45:07
  Speaker 8: That's all I want to say.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, thanks to Sean, just some words of advice.
• 45:11
  Speaker 11: I guess.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about they are twelfth in the league
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: on third down, so they're not they haven't been terrible
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: on third down on defense, but we talked a little
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: bit about that, and you know, I think that one
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: of the things that when we talk about you know,
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: man coverage is like, it's not just Gonzales and Davis
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: that have to play man coverage, it's the whole defense
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: that has to play man coverage. So who's covering the
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: tight end, who's covering the running back out of the backfield?
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: You know, those are things that maybe they look at
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: and say, we don't feel great about our options in
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: man to man, you know, against tight ends and backs
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: with our linebackers and safeties, and so they have to
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: kind of protect it a little bit and they can't
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: play maybe as much man, but maybe in the playoffs
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: they'll ramp it up. Like That's sort of what I've
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: been waiting for, is once we get to the postseason,
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: do when they play better teams and better quarterbacks, do
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: we see more of that cat coverage?
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: You know, I got to look for the trends in
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: it because I've just been tracking the man zone splits
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: all year. But I think I think you made the
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: point last week of it's kind of the NFL now
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: where and the Patriots are still like above the league average.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Of man defense. It's not like they're just a zone
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: defense now. But I think it's just early downs.
• 46:14
  Speaker 7: Keep it in front of you I mean, everybody gets
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: frustrated when it's first down and they're off zone coverage
• 46:18
  Speaker 7: and you know, Gonzales has to come up and make
• 46:20
  Speaker 7: a tackle. But I just think that's part of their
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: defensive philosophy, forced teams to continually execute on third down.
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: They're going to play mostly man. They're going to mix
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: in some some of their blitzes as well. But I
• 46:31
  Speaker 7: just think it's kind of where the league's going. I mean,
• 46:32
  Speaker 7: I don't know if it's going to necessarily and to
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: your point with everybody's got to play man like, I
• 46:37
  Speaker 7: don't think the solution is every down we're just playing
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: man defense and now everything's well.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: That's also just like a common misconception about the league.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: You know, there's no team in the league that plays
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: predominantly man coverage, Like Detroit is usually right on the
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: line of like over fifty percent man, but most thirty
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: one teams in the league are below fifty percent man coverage.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: So it always ramps up on third down. Everybody plays
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: more intimate on third down, but most of the league
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: is in zone over seventy percent of the time.
• 47:05
  Speaker 7: Seventy two point six was my last check of an
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: NFL average for zone.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know when the Patriots are at sixty
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: nine percent.
• 47:12
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: And also it's all straight up zone two nowadays. And
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: I don't want to get into this whole thing, but
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: like that's like that's.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: The thing too.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: I think like people just think zone allows you to
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: just go ahead and catch it. We're probably in zone
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: you can catch it.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: Well it's I mean, it's the we're getting to match
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: zones versus spine drops Bursday line and you don't know
• 47:30
  Speaker 7: for sure, Like I just at a certain point the
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: next gen, I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna rely
• 47:34
  Speaker 7: on you.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: You're my stats. I'm not, you know, gonna question every
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: little detail of it.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: But I love catching it when it's wrong. It's one
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: of my favorite things to put you at the defense.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: But this is covered tree, next gen silly machine.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Ryan Pennsylvania. When it comes to Fred's little pole, I
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: see what you did there. I'm on team Evan, screen
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: not slant. If it hasn't been discussed yet, Evan, know
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: how many yards was the Ammondola passing the Super Bowl?
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: I'm guessing it's almost identical.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, two point conversions, so two this was three.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: P s now. If we could only get you guys
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: to pronounce Drake Drake may May correctly. Paul is saying
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: it Drake Drake May May, not Drake Drake may May.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: I hope it clears hope that clears it up. It
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: doesn't do any.
• 48:23
  Speaker 9: Why do you have to say it all together?
• 48:24
  Speaker 10: Well, I don't Drake Drake Mayrake Drake May, because who
• 48:30
  Speaker 10: it's Drake's nickname.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: With the whole name right.
• 48:34
  Speaker 10: I wouldn't say Freddy Freddy feels cursh. I would just
• 48:38
  Speaker 10: say Freddy feels So why do we need to say
• 48:40
  Speaker 10: Drake Drake may May.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: It's just Drake May, but that's the nickname according to you, guys,
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: Oh what's that supposed to me?
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: You people?
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: According to you, Paul.
• 48:58
  Speaker 9: Never reads the newsletter.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: We have to read it was alerted Paul doesn't. Why
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: don't you read it?
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: Why do you got to do that Paul appreciation taking
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: off things on the air.
• 49:10
  Speaker 10: We did an entire Paul Appreciation newsletter on your birthday.
• 49:14
  Speaker 9: We all said nice things about you.
• 49:16
  Speaker 10: And then the next day I came in and had
• 49:18
  Speaker 10: like a smile on my face wanted to talk to
• 49:20
  Speaker 10: you about it.
• 49:21
  Speaker 9: You're like, I didn't read it.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I never read that was acknowledging a birthday, and we don't.
• 49:26
  Speaker 11: We don't do that.
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: We don't acknowledge by other people starting to get more
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: excited about my birthday for different reasons, retirements coming the
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: AARP discount?
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: Do you get pre tickets at the movies?
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: I do generally read the newsletter. I skimmed through it.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: It was my shot by the claiming that I didn't
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: understand it, like I didn't know about the Drake lover
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: thing and all that stuff, which Evan, you know, pulled
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: back the curtain on that yesterday and just started laughing.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Did I even You're not serious? Did I ever tell
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: you my AARP story? So when you're like fifty, they
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: start sending you letters like join aar P blah blah blah.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: So next one letting take you join aar P, will
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: send you this free gift. It's like it was like
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: a Duffel bag. So I'm a sucker for free gifts,
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: So I send my thing in. I joined, get my card.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: A couple of weeks later, I get this bag that was,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, so flimsy, like you wouldn't use it for anything.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: I was so disgusted I threw the card away and
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: never renewed.
• 50:36
  Speaker 11: That was it.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: I haven't joined.
• 50:38
  Speaker 9: I haven't been like duffle back itself.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: It was like it was like like the cheapest nylon
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: you could and small, Like what am I gonna do
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: with that crap? It's like the help with you? Yeah,
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: you know, if you're gonna offer me a free gift,
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: make it worth my while.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: I got my wife your while, Yeah, wanted to zip up.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: She loves the onesies, you know, like a child.
• 51:03
  Speaker 6: I got one this.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: It was terrible for Christmas.
• 51:05
  Speaker 11: I bought it for it.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: So bad I had to apologize it like sixty bucks.
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: No, I don't want to say the company's name because
• 51:12
  Speaker 7: it was like you would think it was a repula company.
• 51:14
  Speaker 9: But I don't want to go down too much of
• 51:16
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• 51:17
  Speaker 10: Company's charging US hundreds of dollars for polyester crap.
• 51:22
  Speaker 9: Clothing is the bane of my existence.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, good stuff with reputable but everything's stretchy. Now everything
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: has to be stretch have a problem with that.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: It want to be comfortable. We don't want to wear things.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Life and that weren't stretchy, and I was pretty comfortable.
• 51:37
  Speaker 9: Everything is performance. To all be performance. It's all wearing
• 51:42
  Speaker 9: just plastic all day. It's not good for us take over.
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: She always has to bring it to.
• 51:46
  Speaker 10: Like New Year's resolution, wool, silk, linen, cotton, natural, five
• 51:54
  Speaker 10: natural fibers in my clothing.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: But I talk like football jargon. That's like I understand.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: And Alex starts talking about these types of things.
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: Like that just makes me feel bad about that.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Now I'm just like, what is she saying? Like I
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: get it now, it's annoying.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: She's gonna be like all little sweaters, like sweating her
• 52:09
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• 52:10
  Speaker 2: I feel much better. All right, Alice, we're gonna take
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: a break. I gotta eat and then remember that Vrabel
• 52:17
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• 52:19
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• 52:22
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  Speaker 19: It's time for another edition of Pats from the Past podcast.
• 54:29
  Speaker 19: It's Matt Smith, it's Paul Parrillo, and it's number fifty
• 54:32
  Speaker 19: five in your scorecard, but number one in our hearts.
• 54:34
  Speaker 19: Willie McGinnis joins us. Willie, thank you so much, appreciate
• 54:36
  Speaker 19: it to be here.
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 54:37
  Speaker 19: So I don't know if you remember this, many many
• 54:41
  Speaker 19: moons ago when we started this, Brian Moorey and I
• 54:44
  Speaker 19: had this great idea to do Pats from the Past talk.
• 54:46
  Speaker 19: The guys used to play go down memory Lane and
• 54:48
  Speaker 19: the first person we had was Willie McGinnis. Really, but
• 54:53
  Speaker 19: we bollocks the whole thing so badly from a technical
• 54:56
  Speaker 19: standpoint that it never saw the air.
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: I had to ask Brian to Lee and I just said,
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: I was going to tell you over there and take
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: care of your.
• 55:03
  Speaker 19: So I'm going to tell you to blame Brian on
• 55:06
  Speaker 19: the whole thing. That's why it didn't.
• 55:08
  Speaker 11: Okay, we can't. We can since he's not here, we can't.
• 55:10
  Speaker 11: We can't blame blame him.
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: And you can stick him in a locker like you
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: once did, which is one of my favorite time, one
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: of my favorite days.
• 55:17
  Speaker 19: Brian locker pretty much good.
• 55:20
  Speaker 11: That was the thing back then.
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, you were. It was a different time man,
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: when PFW would really really got along with the players
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: very well. Were we were like we always got along, right.
• 55:30
  Speaker 19: So a lot of people tried the Celtics Lakers game
• 55:33
  Speaker 19: last night.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: You have a divided loyalty there.
• 55:35
  Speaker 11: Is it a SoCal guy, but you're my second home.
• 55:39
  Speaker 23: Yeah, like it's you know, I posted it's good to
• 55:42
  Speaker 23: be home and uh, you know, I was happy to
• 55:44
  Speaker 23: be home, uh and be there and it's so happy
• 55:49
  Speaker 23: they were playing the Lakers, right, And of course you
• 55:51
  Speaker 23: know from you know, the Long Beach area, La County area,
• 55:55
  Speaker 23: so the Lakers are a fixture, you know in that area,
• 55:59
  Speaker 23: and it's my team. I like the Lakers as well.
• 56:01
  Speaker 23: Used to be a season ticket holder, so I was
• 56:06
  Speaker 23: just enjoying it. Man, I hadn't been to a Celtics
• 56:09
  Speaker 23: game in a while, so just enjoying it.
• 56:11
  Speaker 19: Energy there isn't it.
• 56:12
  Speaker 11: Very good energy, very good energy. Team looks good.
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 56:15
  Speaker 11: I mean.
• 56:17
  Speaker 23: A lot of a lot of the players didn't play.
• 56:20
  Speaker 23: We didn't see the matchup, so we thought we were
• 56:21
  Speaker 23: going to see. But I mean still being there. I mean,
• 56:25
  Speaker 23: the the TV is different than the old you know,
• 56:30
  Speaker 23: the garden. Yeah, I mean I remember going to the
• 56:32
  Speaker 23: garden and now it's like the way you enter is different.
• 56:37
  Speaker 23: I was just kind of like, you know, looking around.
• 56:38
  Speaker 23: It's it's super nice. It's a beautiful place.
• 56:41
  Speaker 19: Can you imagine there's somebody who remembers the garden?
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: Paul, Yeah, we don't have that many. Only people like
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: us exactly. So let's get into it.
• 56:48
  Speaker 19: Willie, you too mentioned it's southern cal kid. And what
• 56:53
  Speaker 19: did you know if anything about the Patriots other than
• 56:56
  Speaker 19: that they were kind of in the league, and Paul
• 56:58
  Speaker 19: and I would talking about just beforehand, was Dallas in
• 57:00
  Speaker 19: on you?
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Was Jerry thinking that he was going to get you?
• 57:03
  Speaker 23: I thought I was going we had, Yeah, I had
• 57:05
  Speaker 23: Dallas Cowboy representatives at my draft party, and I elected
• 57:11
  Speaker 23: not to go to New York. You know how that goes.
• 57:13
  Speaker 23: So you never know where you're going to go in
• 57:14
  Speaker 23: the draft. But I elected not to go to New York.
• 57:17
  Speaker 23: Have a party with all my friends and family, just
• 57:20
  Speaker 23: you know, something intimate and fun. And I had three
• 57:23
  Speaker 23: Dallas Cowboy representatives at my draft party. And the deal
• 57:29
  Speaker 23: was that they were going to move up. I think
• 57:32
  Speaker 23: they had like the twenty sixth pick or whatever. They
• 57:35
  Speaker 23: were going to trade Harper the receiver, and they were
• 57:39
  Speaker 23: going to take me with the fifth pick they had that.
• 57:44
  Speaker 23: I remember the hat, the Dallas Cowboy hat was there, everything,
• 57:48
  Speaker 23: and they were going to take me. I remember coming
• 57:51
  Speaker 23: in from my visit with Parsales. We had one visit.
• 57:53
  Speaker 23: We had one good meeting.
• 57:55
  Speaker 11: It was great.
• 57:55
  Speaker 23: But I didn't hear anything else from the Patriots after that.
• 57:58
  Speaker 23: So I thought I was going to be a cowboy. Honestly,
• 58:03
  Speaker 23: I was waiting to be a cowboy. And then when
• 58:05
  Speaker 23: well my name was called fourth, every I just kind
• 58:08
  Speaker 23: of everybody just kind of looked around. They looked a
• 58:10
  Speaker 23: little confused, picked up the stuff left, and I remember
• 58:18
  Speaker 23: watching the screen because they had the screen on on
• 58:21
  Speaker 23: Jerry and he slammed the table or slammed the phone
• 58:24
  Speaker 23: or something and uh parcels calls and I was just like,
• 58:28
  Speaker 23: what said New England? What the hell is New England?
• 58:32
  Speaker 23: Like where am I going? Because you know, I know
• 58:34
  Speaker 23: Drew how went there. I played against Drew in college
• 58:37
  Speaker 23: Washington State. But I would just it wasn't on my radar,
• 58:41
  Speaker 23: so I was thrown off.
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: Good memory, Matt, you had that one.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Now were you?
• 58:45
  Speaker 19: Were you disappointed or did the hey I'm going to
• 58:47
  Speaker 19: the NFL kind of overtake maybe any of the discipline.
• 58:50
  Speaker 23: Now, I didn't have a favorite team I wanted to
• 58:52
  Speaker 23: go to. I mean, of course I knew about the
• 58:54
  Speaker 23: Dallas Cowboys more than I do because they were winning.
• 58:56
  Speaker 23: You know that they want to wear a couple of
• 58:58
  Speaker 23: Super Bowls just prior to that. But I wasn't sitting there,
• 59:03
  Speaker 23: Oh I gotta I have to go to this team.
• 59:05
  Speaker 23: I think it's a little different now. These these guys,
• 59:07
  Speaker 23: they was like, well, I don't want to get drafted
• 59:09
  Speaker 23: by this team or that team. I was just happy
• 59:11
  Speaker 23: and fortunate because of where I came from, and you know,
• 59:15
  Speaker 23: everything you go through and being the first in your
• 59:18
  Speaker 23: family to graduate college and to be, you know, a
• 59:22
  Speaker 23: position to get drafted was such an honor. So I
• 59:25
  Speaker 23: was just I was just excited once I found out
• 59:28
  Speaker 23: where everything was and I talked to par Sales, Hey,
• 59:32
  Speaker 23: the party started.
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: Our first thing for me, Matt is that I don't
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: know if you catch this, but Willy was well ahead
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: of the game when he came to branding. You know,
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: he's got his own party going New York. I'm doing
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: my own thing.
• 59:43
  Speaker 11: Now.
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: Everybody does that.
• 59:44
  Speaker 11: Now, everybody's kind of doing right.
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, you're well ahead of the curve in terms
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: of worrying about Willie as opposed to the NFL at
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: the start. The Parcels thing though, that I think you
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: were going to start. It just seems to me from
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: afar like you wanted the you know, big athletic outside
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: linebacker right out of Parcells's playbook. That's exactly what he's
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: looking for. It seemed like a perfect fit.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 23: And when when Parcelles went into the Patriots Hall of Fame,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 23: we talked about that his evaluation, like when he evaluated
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 23: players before he became a head coach, Like when he
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 23: used to evaluate players and the style and type and
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 23: proto type of players that he used to you know,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 23: scout and bring in and and want on his team.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 23: And then when you look at the Giants team that
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 23: he won a couple of Super Bowls with with that staff,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 23: and uh, that's that's that's that's the type. That's the prototype.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 23: The big, the fast, the physical guys like yeah, like
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 23: Pepper and LT and and all those guys and the
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 23: big d ns like that was just him. And then
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 23: when you got drafted, when I got drafted and got here,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 23: there are a lot of Giants you know that were
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 23: on the team that he brought over. You know that
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 23: that kind of fit the bill for him.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: R KK always bragged that you're his first.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 11: Yeah, first pick, Yeah, when he bought the team.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 19: Yeah, that's a nice little son, right, Yeah, that's that's
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 19: a lot there's a lot of those, by the way,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 19: but that's a nice little thing to know that you
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 19: were his first you know that in his ownership.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 11: You're the first guy, you know, Yeah, it started. That
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 11: was great.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 19: Why was it important to you WILLI to be here
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 19: when Parcels went into the Hall of Fame? Was it
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 19: just like representing him.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 23: To support Yeah, I mean it's like he you know,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 23: when when you when you travel through this NFL life
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 23: and you've come across so many you know, guys that
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 23: you've played with and that coached you and you work with,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 23: and you know, he he took a chance on me
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 23: in the draft, like he drafted me, and he believed
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 23: in me, and you know, I just remember coming in
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 23: as a young rookie and not really knowing what to
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 23: expect and having a guy like that. I was comfortable
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 23: because I was used to those type of coaches and
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 23: I had, you know, I didn't have to end skin.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 23: I was like, I took the coaches like that. That
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 23: was you know, that was bruly honest. That was brash,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 23: that getting your face and do all that. But then
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 23: I'll you know that, I'll love you up at the
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 23: same time. And Lawrence Taylor was one of my favorite players,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 23: you know, growing up, you know, along with Tippett, you know,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 23: and Derek Thomas and a couple other guys. So you
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 23: coach the greatest you know, in my opinion, and the
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 23: greatest you know player defensive player to do it in
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 23: my position and just our interaction and just like I said,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 23: giving me a shot and believing in me. That's you
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 23: know that that says a lot. And then our relationship
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 23: once I got here, and.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: You guys had a lot of success. You know, right
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: out of the shoot ninety four, your rookie year, you
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: guys end up, you know, being being a playoff team.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 11: I guess who.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, now we all remember. You know, you'd be amazed
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: how much Bill Parcells remembered each and every detail of
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: that loss.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 11: Really he was talking.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: About talking about, you know, a crossing route to Ray
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: Crittin and that went off his face and picked off,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: you know, and we were going in.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: To take the lead.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: And I mean the attention to detail from a game
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: whatever thirty five years.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 23: It was a physical It was a physical game. It
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 23: was a great game. And that team was kind of
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 23: built like the Giants. You know, Pepper was on that team.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 23: I remember Eric Turner, the late great Eric Turner, big safeties,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 23: big linebackers. I think was pleasant over there at the time.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 7: He was.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean they kind of looked like us.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: And now great moments in.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 11: History.
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  Speaker 7: You know what else bothered me is that I didn't
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 7: study it is Delane Johnson the tweet of him being
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 7: like gonna have some fun in a couple of weeks
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 7: at the link, and that means my blood boil that one.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Let's say, all right, come on, let's go like really really,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: that's what.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: Really bothered me when Nick Boyle said, we'll see how
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: they are when we play them. Yeah, hen they then
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: they gave up thirty seven points. Yeah, that really bothered Well,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: you like that. I don't like any of it. I
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: don't dislike any of it. It doesn't really come on
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: my radar. Nothing these guys say affects anything that happens
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: on the field. I'm very consistent with that. I don't
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: care that he mouthed off before the game, and I
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: don't care that that didn't have any impact on the game.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: You guys, I care.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: That's the lifeblood for.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Hater makes it.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: We actually enjoy sports.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: We get into.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 12: You.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: But you can't take a picture after the game.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: Your your enjoyment of sports really shines through when you're
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: disgusted with the team.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: And there's etiquette that and you and Broke have on
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: but not too much.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: That's another great moment.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: All right back here and Patriots on filter day five
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: to five past five hundred is the hotline, and no, no,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: we're gonna do it later. We're gonna do it later.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna do it after Avaiable.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: What makes you think we're gonna have time late. We're
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: gonna do picks today.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know what are we gonna do?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: You want to do it? Yeah, we're gonna do it.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: I mean it, will do it again if if he comes.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: It's only one oh five.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: We got let's do it quick.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: It's time for the co Pilot Question of the Week,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: presented by Microsoft co Pilot.
• 1:05:30
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• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: Guys, I had some fun today Paul's will making fun
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: of me.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 7: You know about the Dolphins beating the Patriots in December
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 7: and affecting their their playoff seed. So today's Copilot question
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 7: of the week is how many times have the Dolphins
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 7: actually beat the Patriots in December and affected their playoff.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: CD and eligibility, et cetera.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: I would say too, I'd say a few times they've
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: affected the seating, but I don't know exactly how many.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: I thought you were going to say in Foxboro.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, just generally because there was a
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: pretty famous one.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: Stephen Jackson game. The Corpse of Stephen Jackson game was
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: a December of the one here yeah, Miami, Well that's
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: the Ryan Fitzpatrick game that he was talking about.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't did I don't think did that. I
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: don't know if that one affected there. I don't know
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: if that affected them. The loss that the seam.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: Stephen Jackson game affected their seating absolutely.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Great, chob cole Pilot, you're wrong.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 9: No match for puls.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: I believe that was the Corpse of Stephen Jackson game
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: was in my infamous twenty fifteen rants where Bill's self
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: destructed down the stretch and had they lose the number
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: of coppers the mortar kick we're going to kick off
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: in overtime, and then the Stephen Jackson game they lost
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: for their last six games.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: Now, maybe that's why Chashi didn't get it. It was
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: not specifically that.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: Maybe the damage had been done.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: No, sorry, they're all powered by the way, all right.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 7: So twenty eighteen, the gronk that didn't affect kickoff said
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 7: they lost the number one seed on that one, but
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 7: they still had a they still got to buy.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: We went to Kansas City for the AC Championship.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: And that's why if they won that game, they wouldn't
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: have had to go to Kansas City, don't Okay, Yeah,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: that's that's one.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 7: Twenty nineteen was the one I famously brought up where
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 7: they lost the number two seed and fell to them.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: That's someone that star job for life, evidently.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 7: And then twenty twenty they actually uh New England's loss
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 7: officially eliminated them from the playoffs against Miami at the
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 7: end of twenty twenty a couple.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: Other ones two.
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  Speaker 7: I do not believe that that's actor No, but it
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 7: did drop them to like I think seven and nine.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: I think it was.
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  Speaker 4: That was the last game of the year they could
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: have made the playoffs.
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  Speaker 7: It's the second and last maybe sorry, I think they
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 7: ended up seven to nine that year.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 18: Maybe.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, okay, so that was the game that eliminated from
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: the playoffs. Okay, what about wait, oh wait the loss? No,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: they at home. They they lost at home, but that
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: was like week three or four.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, six, wild the wild the Wildcat.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: Game was eight. Yeah, that was very early in the sky.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: Then they won in Miami later in the season, Matt
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: Castle threw for over four hundred yards in case you
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: want to take notes there.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: Two thousand and six, they did lose twenty.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: One, so what maybe eight it was Miami won a
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: game late that knocked us out of the playoffs.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: Miami beat the Jets, right, and that knocked us out
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: at the medals, right.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they also lost.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 7: Them down the stretch and nine, but they still uh
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 7: finished in the number three seed.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: So there you go.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: Okay, we banged it out all right, maybe not sound
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: lost down the stretch and nine. I'm intrigued by this
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: game twenty one.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Not twenty two, twenty one, twenty two to twenty one.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: To see this no recollection. Nine the lost year.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: I thought year, it was crazy.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: My last year is twenty fifteen.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty two. I'm telling you that was the beginning
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: of the end for Bill Belichick. And I know it
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: sounds ridiculous. He's stupid because he won like two more
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: Super Bowls, But that I'm telling you that was a
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: self destruction Unlike anything I've ever seen. Some of the
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: coaching decisions.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: It was something going on that year or toward the
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: end of the season with him.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: Is that the year that Jordan was born?
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: Maybe oh six?
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 9: Imagine something something.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: To do with astrology here, I can see.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 9: Maybe let's go to grand It.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 7: You barked on players thinking good decisions.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: How disappointing is it to have.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: To deal with this type of distraction evolving two players.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: With alleged cases against them?
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 13: You know right now?
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 12: Sure?
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 6: Well, I would say not disappointing at all. I think that.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 14: You know, these are allegations, like you mentioned in your question, Uh,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 14: it's things that we have to handle. And every day
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 14: that there's distractions, some are smaller than others. And you
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 14: know confident that you know, we'll focus on the Dolphins
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 14: and you know those two individuals that you mentioned. Will
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 14: you be able to you know, handle the ongoing legal
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 14: process it's.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: Outside of the lot like you handle it.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: Will the being team discappointed.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 8: As far as yourn?
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 14: Oh again, there's ongoing, uh, you know, legal matter, and
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 14: these again are allegations, and you know we've made a statement,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 14: we've taken the allegations very seriously. And what comes of that,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 14: I think then we'll have another discussion. But you know,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 14: I don't think we have to. You don't jump to
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 14: any sort of conclusions right now and let the process
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 14: take a take.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: It still the availability of both players.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 14: Christians away with the illness today and so I would
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 14: say that his availability for practice, he won't be out there, but.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 6: No, I haven't. I haven't heard anything that would keep
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 6: either player from the game.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: Mike as a.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 14: Coach and coaching staff, in light of all of this,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 14: how do you keep your players focused on Miami and
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 14: the matters at hand on the field is there?
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 23: How do you do it?
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 14: A special focus or no different than we've done every
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 14: single week. We come in on Wednesday, we tried to
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 14: learn the personnel, talk about the Dolphins that have five
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 14: and two in their last seven games, have turned the
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 14: ball over, you know, created thirteen turnovers in those five wins.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 14: Running back that's first in the league, and yards per
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 14: carry and yards after contact and explosive runs, and there's
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 14: some young defensive linemen that are really improving and playing well.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 14: That was our focus this morning and trying to to
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 14: prepare for our opponent and put the game plan in
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 14: and we'll practice and but that's.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 6: What we do every single Wednesday and Thursday and Friday.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 6: Do you feel as though the team has a comprehensive
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 6: understanding of both incidents.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 9: Are still in the process of gathering more.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 14: Well, we always want to gather more information. But you know,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 14: these are you know, we we've been aware of these allegations.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 14: It wasn't the yesterday and today isn't the first that
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 14: we've you know, heard about them, and try to do
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 14: everything in accordance with with the league policy and making
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 14: sure that the league, you know, that weren't con clients
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 14: with the league.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 24: I thought the team Steven said that you guys were aware,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 24: you know, August about the barrow more allegations.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: Is that not not true?
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 14: Again, I'm not really sure the timeline there's been, you know,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 14: when when when we've been able to you know, find
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 14: out what the information was. These are things that, like
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 14: I said, these aren't a surprise that today and yesterday
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 14: this came out when when they you know, we're able
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 14: to you know, make us aware from the court filings
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 14: and some things like that. So those are all things
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 14: again would handle with the respect of the court in
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 14: the process and the ongoing. So we just have to
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 14: be and again I know, want to be respectful of
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 14: what you guys have to do, but we also have
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 14: to be respectful of what our players are trying to
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 14: do and what we're trying to do as a coaching staff.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 14: We started this thing in Miami. You know, I didn't
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 14: do a very good job against Oakland or Vegas, and
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 14: we were able to start it against Miami. And we're
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 14: hoping to do everything that we can to finish the
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 14: regular season really strong against Miami.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: Are you afraid of these will become distracted?
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 6: Afraid? No, not afraid. I'm fifty years old and going
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 6: to be fifty one. I'm not afraid.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 14: I love coaching this football team, and I love the
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 14: way that they come to work. I love the youth,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 14: I love the veterans, I love the leadership, and I
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 14: really have appreciated everyone's growth throughout this entire process.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 6: I think that's the thing that I really enjoy is just.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 14: You know, guys like Trayvon and Kyle being excited and
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 14: Will being excited about coming back, and on our quarterback
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 14: and the way you know, Drake has grown, but our
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 14: veteran leadership from from Steph and Morgan and Garrett on offense,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 14: and you know the consistency that Big MIC's had and Hunter,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 14: we talked about his consistency that that's what I want
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 14: the best for these guys on the field and off.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 25: The USA said was released yesterday about Diggs in relationship
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 25: momentic situation, it's as we support stuff that.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: What does that mean.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 6: That everybody that we.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 14: Care about and that we have been close to for
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 14: a while, that that we support and we do and
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 14: we understand that there's allegations, but we also want to
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 14: support each and every player, and each and every coach
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 14: and each and every staff member a lot on Brooks.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: This year, young players, do you talk to your captains
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: to be able to talk to the team in order
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: to try to, you know, keep this on the back burner.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: Do you address the team personally?
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 24: No?
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean yes, I talked to the team.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 14: I talked to the team about you know, making sure
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 14: that we speak for ourselves and if if Steph and
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 14: Christian have something to say, I support that, but we're
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 14: also gonna, you know, I think, speak for ourselves and
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 14: make sure that you know, they are focused on what
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 14: they have to do and the improvements that they have
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 14: to make. The focus this week is improved through practice
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 14: and try to finish what we started.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 25: The police report Fantash to the charge against Christian. His
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 25: accuser describes being thrown to the ground in front of
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 25: their child and then calling a car service that the
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 25: team provides taking her to Delaware, and then she provides
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 25: photos of bruises after being thrown to the ground to police.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 25: Those photos were added to the report. In the statement,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 25: you said you guys were aware at the time of
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 25: the incident in August.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 15: Since then, what has.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: Made you comfortable to continue putting Christian out.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 14: Of practice and in games and just allegations And we
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 14: want to make sure that the court. You know that
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 14: those ongoing court proceedings, and once those are satisfied, then
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 14: you know, we'll come to whatever conclusion and whatever decision
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 14: that we have to make. And we'll also stay committed
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 14: to our preparation near with Miami and making sure that
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 14: everybody's ready to go, who whoever plays on Sunday. The
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 14: NFL hasn't told me anything, so I don't want to
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 14: waste your time on that. I haven't had a call
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 14: with the NFL coach.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: Historically, the team has dealt with outside noise in the past.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: What's sort of your message The team.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 6: Around times like this one.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 14: Improved through practice and finish what we started and speak
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 14: for yourself and again, so that's that's what we've talked about.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 14: That's that was my message, and we'll continue to do that.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 14: Can't worry about playoff scenarios and a lot of what ifs.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 14: We're going to focus on, you know, trying to make
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 14: sure that we're as prepared for a team that we
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 14: haven't played.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 6: There they're a lot different and.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 14: I think that we're a lot different than then what
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 14: the two teams that played in September or playing this week.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 14: Of course, anybody that's healthy, we're gonna we're going to
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 14: do everything we can to win the football game.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 6: But if there come on.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 14: Campbell today, yes, will Alex Austin will be out there,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 14: see how he looks and see where Milt Milt is
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 14: from last week.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: How much do you take into account individual achievements in
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: this final game, whether it's hitting certain incentives for individual
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: players or an award maybe.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 14: Being at stake like MVP, if it's anything that can
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 14: help the team win, I'm all in favor of. We've
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 14: talked about this, maybe I don't know, three or four
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 14: weeks ago, about you know, chasing wins and not plays
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 14: and so that that I want those to all align.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 14: And I'm and I can always appreciate, you know, production,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 14: I get it, whether that's tackles, playtime, sacks, catches, touchdowns,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 14: But really what I'm focused on is wins, and I
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 14: have to try to balance that, you know, between individual
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 14: players and then units and then a team.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 25: Released about Stefan dig Zoo has mentioned that, you know,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 25: he has categorically denied those allegations to the team. No
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 25: such mentioned was in the same in regard to Christians.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 25: Heat denied the incident as described in the police.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm not going to focus on any of the
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 14: conversations that you know, we've had with the with the
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 14: players or I've had with players, and so I'm gonna
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 14: let the ongoing court process take its course and I'm
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 14: going to focus on the Dolphins and focus on coaching
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 14: this football team and and the guys that are healthy
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 14: enough to be.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: Out there.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 24: Ride in the Delaware Does the Does the team routinely
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 24: offer car service to players, loved ones, family members, wives,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 24: or girlfriends.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 10: Uh?
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know that is the case.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 14: I'm not you know, I just since two thousand and one,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 14: probably had the same company When I go to the airport.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 14: Take me whether I was a player or a coach here,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 14: So I don't know. I can't comment on that. Apologize
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 14: my last question about PU.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 12: Twenty five to thirty guys came back from a year
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 12: ago on the roster, and maybe five or six of
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 12: them were assigned to contracts. I more want to talk
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 12: with Jalen Hawkins the decision to bring him back. He
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 12: was in March, so you didn't sound like you. I
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 12: don't know how well you got to know him over
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 12: in the first few months, but can you talk about
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 12: the decision to bring him back?
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 14: And then yep, I would say that through Jeremy Springer
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 14: and Tom Quinn's efforts to explain to me their group
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 14: of core guys, he kept coming up. He had to
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 14: play defense, but he was on every single special team,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 14: was the wing. I think they described him as a
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 14: selfless player who would do anything that he could to
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 14: help the football team and was playing a lot of defense.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 6: Seemed like a veteran guy that we would want to
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 6: have around.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 14: And then in the conversations that we had with me
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 14: and Elliott and Ryan and Stretched, it was.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 6: Excited to be able to bring them back.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 14: He's earned everything that he's that he has now with
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 14: the production, the playtime keeps working.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: It means a lot to him.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 14: He's a fun guy to coach, and I'm happy that
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 14: he's having, you know, success, So appreciate the time here, guys,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 14: and we'll see here in a couples.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: All right. That was Mike Vrabel with his one ten
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: press conference on a Wednesday, addressing you know, the news
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: about Barmore and Diggs. So we'll leave it at that.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: But you know, I thought there were good questions by
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: the media.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought there were, you know, some fair questions.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: I don't think that they have much more information than
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: they released in the in the statements, so I don't
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: think we got any resolutions. It certainly seems that all
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: systems football wise for those two are ago yep, unless
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 4: we learn more from the coming days. But I would,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 4: based on the way Mike sounded, I would expect those
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: two guys to be part of the equation on Sunday.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: I think he pretty much said that. He said he
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: said that from what we know, they'll be out there.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: So in that regard, I guess you could take that
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: as good news.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: You know, for the team.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 11: Yep.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: So that's that and not a lot of other talk
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: but beyond that.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: So no, he did mention that I think there was
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: a question about personnel use on Sunday, and he indicated that,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: you know, the healthy guys will play.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 11: You know, that's.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: I think that makes sense. I think there's still something
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: to play for. I think the difference between the two
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: and the three seed forgetting about. You know, you'd really
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: kick yourself if Denver would have stubbed their toe and
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: lose that game and you sat everybody and lost out
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: in a chance to move up. But I think there's
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: value in just holding serve and making sure you win
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: to keep the two seed too. So I'm not surprised
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: that Mike's gonna play these guys.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: Mike went to the locker room just to get the vibe,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: so he'll come back and give us his reporter. And
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: then the of course, the I on Evan sponsored by
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  Speaker 2: g Barbershaw.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 9: You shouldn't actually sell sponsorship.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 23: To that.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: Norman daytona beach. Hey, Fred, I guess I lucked out.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: I never received my free gift from AARP and the
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: discounts aren't worth a hill of beans. So there you go.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna have aarp on my back. It's a
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: big lobby. I guess all right, it's a lot of
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: old people on my lunch shaking their canes and stuff.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: What you are special shaking Jordan Jordan from Vermont. First,
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  Speaker 2: I can't recommend Aarons enough. One piece to note if
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: you you have to go with the Arrans s h
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: o models if you live in New England, need that
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: additional power to clear away the nor'easters. I actually had
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: my errands out for the first time this year.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: Did you really Yeah at the other day.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a lot of snow down the cape.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, I didn't get Yeah, I didn't get much.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: And it was real.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 6: It was so cold.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: It was so light and fluffy that it was like
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: a breeze.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: And let me tell you something about my Arrans. I've
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: had it for like eight nine years.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 9: You don't even put it in a shed.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: I don't have a I don't have a garage, so
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: I keep it out all year with a cover on it,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: but doesn't do much. And the things started right up.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 9: So love that for you.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, although I have to adjust the shoes a little.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: I'm getting a little fight regarding the Mac to ir designation,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: it seems Drake spread the ball out a bit more
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: against the Jets. I love Mac, He's been a great addition,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: but it seems like Drake can key in on him occasionally.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: Did we get some addition by subtraction?
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: No, No, I think Drake's done a great job was
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: writing the ball around all season long. I didn't notice
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: any difference in that regard. I mean you could look
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: at it and say, like he had five touchdowns to
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: five different guys, But just looking at the receptions list
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: in front of me, so Diggs is Claire, you know
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: he's eighty two catches. Then it's Hunter, Henry at fifty five,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: Holland's forty six, Henderson thirty five, Booty thirty one, on
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: Stevenson thirty like Douglas twenty nine. These guys have been Yeah,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: he's spread the ball around all year. I don't think
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: it's good to have a guy that has been part
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: of that. Then it's easier to take it away, right
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: not being in the game. That's I don't think it
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: was additioned by subtraction.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 10: Also, everybody's eating it's what Hollins brings to the table
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 10: that isn't just receiving patches.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 6: You know what it was?
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 10: It Mike Gesicki a couple of years ago that called
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 10: them like the love of the game routes where you would.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: Just go run out, and Josh McDaniels called him a
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: chess piece.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: He's a good blocker too in the run game, and
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: I think they'll miss him in that regard to.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: Yep, Jeremiah says in Curius and y'all opinion as reporters,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: did you get annoyed when media asked the same question
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: rephrase expecting a different answer. I always been a pet
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: peeve of mine and just disappointed they didn't really talk
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: about the game at all or injured player status. Well
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: it's only Wednesday, so.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 4: No, I don't get disappointed when you talking today specifically.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the media had a job to do today. The
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: job was not to talk about the Miami game today. Yeah,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: Like I'm not. I mean that's not necessarily but where
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: all about. We work for the team. It's a little different.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: But those guys the story today is Digs and barmore.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and they'll see Rabel again Friday, when this news
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 10: isn't relevant in front of everyone's.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: Eye, and he was asked questions about injured guys, and
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: that's when Mike had the answer that the healthy guys
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 4: will play on Friday. As Alex just mentioned, he will
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: tell you if anybody is downgraded to out, he'll let
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: He'll let you know what every week I get.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: Like to me, it does seem like later in the
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: week than it is, like, doesn't Yeah, it seems like
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: a lot has happened this week, but it's only Wednesday,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: so this is really the first day that they've been
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: out to practice, so a lot has happened, fortunately, right,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: So we'll get our first participation report later today, but
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: they also have tomorrow and Friday to see how these
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: injured guys look out on the practice field, and we'll
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: get more, Like Paul said, on Friday, we'll get the
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: final determination of who's going to play.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: And on Monday he did indicate that he expected to
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: have Will Campbell back at practice. You know, Milton Williams
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 4: was already back at practice last week, so you know
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 4: there's some progress there. We'll see. Maybe someone could have
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 4: asked them the status of like Booty and Jared Wilson,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: who were in concussion protocol last week. I guess someone
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: could ask that, but I thought the questions for the
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: most part on the digs bar Moore stuff were relevant,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: and I thought Verbel did a good job of answering
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 4: them as best as he could, because he probably doesn't
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: have all the information.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: Jeff and Vancouver. Inspired by Fred's childlike curiosity about route names,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: Reddit has explained like I'm five or ellis PU. Segment
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: could be for the newsletter. Explain like I'm Fred or Elf. Okay,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: so you know all the route names Jeff and Vancouver. Okay,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: tell me what Jacksonville calls you know there? You don't know,
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: Nobody knows. That's the point. These football teams they guard
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: it like it's you know, code, and that's how they
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: lord over us with their knowledge.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: Well, I do think there's part of that, of course
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: it is. Do you remember the.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: Old guy doing by the way, the.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: Guy that used to call right angry. No, there's all
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: kinds of every every element. Business you're going you're going
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 4: to going to like a high level finance meeting, business meeting,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: all the all the buzzwords come out.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, real estate a.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 11: Yeah, all right.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: We're waiting for Duce to get back. We're gonna have picks,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: so we gotta hurry. There's a lot going on here.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: Mike's in Puerto Rico. What's up, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. Okay,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: Mike is gone. I hope everything's all right. Kevin's in Florida.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: What's up, Kevin? Kevin?
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 11: Hey?
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, we can.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: All right? Hey?
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 26: Uh.
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  Speaker 18: First off, I just want to mention longtime caller, love
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 18: seeing you guys evolved throughout the years. I remember the
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 18: last time I called it and I had asked if
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 18: you guys were ever planning on doing video podcasts for
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 18: all of your shows, and I'm glad you're doing that now.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 13: You have a beautiful setup.
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• 1:29:12
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• 1:29:13
  Speaker 25: I love you guys.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 18: And the only other thing I wanted to mention, just
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 18: because I never call in, and I don't know whether
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 18: or not you guys have officially decided on it or not,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 18: but I gotta.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 27: Throw in my two cents.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 18: I don't have anything completely against the Drake Drake May
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 18: May thing, but I just don't see how it could
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 18: work when announcing it on national television. I don't see
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 18: how it works in the crowd with a slow chat
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 18: or anything like that. Considering the fact that we have
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 18: such an accurate pastor with bombs downfield, I could definitely
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 18: picture Zolac following a game one day saying Drake May
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 18: with a fifty or Drake may Day with a fifty
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 18: yard bomb downfield, and not to mention the double meaning
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 18: of it too, like if it's having an incredible day
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 18: and and they just so happened to say, well, it's
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 18: looking like a Drake may Day today, And also just
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 18: imagining a slow chant of made a made a on
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 18: the field, like in the crowd. That kind of name works,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 18: in my opinion. I don't care if it's taken by
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 18: somebody else. I feel like if a cycle Tom is
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 18: deserving of a nickname, I don't think there's anything too
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 18: cool about.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 13: Drake to deserve his own moniker.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 18: But that's just my two cents and all this and
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 18: all like.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: Okay, thanks Kevin, and he's right, like that would lend
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: itself to a chant, but like what was the chant
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 4: for Brady right.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: Bray Bray Bray right?
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: That was the chance like May May.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: Drake May, do you even have it?
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 9: TV twelve?
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: I guess I'm go.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: Nobody called him but no one called him go.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 10: I think think people referred to him as TV twelve,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 10: maybe not in this building, but like fans and stuff.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: I mean in writing maybe, but I didn't he like, oh,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: you know, TV twelve had.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 4: A good game, but in the stands, the chant from
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: the crowd was always Brady. It was the Brady chance
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 4: and that would lend itself. You know may day that yeah,
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: that could work for a chance. But whatever, So Drake May.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Drake May, Drake May Yeah, Okay, Drake Drake or.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 9: Drake the dumb crap he has to entertain with us?
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: Drake, you don't have a nickname, Drake.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 9: What's your favorite cookie? What's your favorite news?
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 11: Funny?
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: Zolac in the press conference, I don't think it was
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: in Baltimore. He was talking to somebody who was at
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: the podium and he was referring to Drake Maine. He
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: called him the kid. Uh yeah, Solac called him the kid.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: Get up kid. He said that when he got hit
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 4: the other day, Get up kid.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: Aaron's in Kentucky. What's up Aaron?
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 28: I was actually just on the last call going to
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 28: take credit for this, but earlier in the season. I've
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 28: seen a tweet and somebody had tweeted out Hogs from
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 28: Drake and they had catched it Drake and the schedule
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 28: made And.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 15: I think that's a killer nickname.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: What is the schedule?
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 11: The schedule?
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: I like, I don't mind that one. I think because
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like blind people like, you know, five
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: years from now, we're still calling him the schedule, reminding
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: people that in that year that they won the Super Bowl,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: you were making fun.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 4: Of five years that might be funny. Yeah, right now,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: it's not.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: I think it is. As long as they keep winning,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: That's what I said.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: In five years, it might be funny.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, thanks thanks Aaron. People love that nick.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: Alex doesn't approve either, Fred.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: So you don't like the schedule?
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 9: That's a nickname?
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, we're just making stuff up to like it
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 10: sticks or it doesn't. The kid's been in the league
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 10: for going on two years now, and it can't be.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 10: Whatever you have to this point is what it's going
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 10: to be.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: And he can't be a nickname if his teammates don't
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: call it.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 4: And a lot of guys don't have nicknames, right.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: Your teammates have to call you that for it to
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: be your nickname, right.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 9: I agree, it has to be organic and natural and
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 9: makes sense.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and most like most nicknames are just something about
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 4: the name anyway. But you know, he's kind of got,
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 4: you know, two one syllable name, so you can't really
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: shorten it and make a nickname.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 11: You know.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: Now, if he played hockey, his name would be Drakie.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, wouldn't Yeah yeah, yeah, ok, yeah. You either take
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: a syllable off or you add to every hockey.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: Player there is, yeah, Rick and Dallas. I was just
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: curious if any of you guys have heard any reason
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: why Dan or Alaski apparently hates Drake May. He trashed
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: him during the draft process, ranking him number six in
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: his list of qbs, has had nothing complimentary to say
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: about him all season, and is now actively campaigning against
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: him for MVP. I realize he's a commentator and it's
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: his job to say crazy things to attract views and clicks,
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: but it seems like he zeroed in on May. And
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: I can't figure out why did May pick on his
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: kid in high school, kidnap his puppy, toilet paper his house. Finally,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: at what point do fellow members in the media begin
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: to hold him accountable. His football takes are consistently wrong,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: and yet he keeps appearing on radio and TV. What
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: value does he bring? I honestly can't figure it out.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 6: Is he who is no?
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: No, no, no no.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: The email, I just would like it's a guy an example. Oh,
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 4: give me an example of what Erlotsky's football takes being wrong? Now,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 4: I know the draft thing. That's the thing that got
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: under Evans Cain. Remember yeah, when when Rolaski was really
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: complimentary of Drake May's play in the middle of the year.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: Do you remember how upset Evan got because Evan was
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: the only one allowed to complimenting Drake correct, He was
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: the only one allowed to take credit for understanding that
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: Drake was really talented, and he was mad at Orlowski
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 4: was saying a lot of nice things. So I would
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 4: be curious from the email, there is what aside from
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: the pre draft, which a lot of guys get that wrong.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 4: Aside from the pre draft criticism of Drake May. Give
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 4: me an example, while as an example of saying that
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford should get the MVP and not Drake May,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 4: is that's not bashing. That's not poor football. We disagree
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 4: with it. We all think Drake May should get the MVP.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: We all talked about that yesterday, right, But I'm sorry,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 4: it's not like laughable that a guy with forty two
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 4: touchdowns gets the MVP.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: While we were on the show earlier, I saw Alaski
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: on TV, so maybe he just said something recently that
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: I you know, I don't know.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 10: I did get tagged in something by a listener shout
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 10: out Nori nor Now I just get sent Dan Orlovsky
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 10: videos from people in hopes that I show Evan to
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 10: further rage bit Evan.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: Because it's complimentary of Drake, right, That's all I've seen
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: is him showing how great Drake May has played over like,
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 4: especially like the second half of the season. He breaks
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 4: down this you know, and I don't like, and I
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 4: know watches more of that stuff. He breaks down the
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 4: tape in very slow, methodical fashion that I'm not really
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 4: all that interested in. But it's very complementary of Drake.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, how could it not be the way he's
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 4: played right, right, I mean completing over seventy percent of
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 4: his passes and throwing the ball down the field as
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 4: often as he has.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I so sometimes people the slightest little thing
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: you say good about somebody else, I think you don't
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: like the other guy. It was it was like the
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: whole back when Brady was still young and the whole
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: Brady Bledsoe debate, it was if you said anything good
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: about either one of them, it meant you hate the
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: other one. And that was not true.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that was even more exacerbated with Brill Brady debate.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 4: You know, if you said that Peyton Manning had any
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 4: modicum of ability, you were taking a shot at Brady,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 4: which no, Right, there could be two really good players.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 4: If you think Brady's better, then fine.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 9: We live in a polarized society, my friends.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 4: Right, you know, I just think that the whole MVP
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: discussion has gotten silly because now it's what you're talking about, Fred,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 4: it's Drake may is the MVP and Matthew Stafford stinks.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 4: That's what it's become around here, Like, how could you
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 4: possibly pick Matthew Stafford?
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: Right, It's like it's like when Barth talks about Josh Allen.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 4: It's no objectivity there, just none. I like to tease
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 4: Alex about that, which I'll I'll do in a couple hours.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 4: I got to go in and yell at him for
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 4: a while.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: Uh, Joe is in framing him. What's up, Joe?
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 4: Hey, guys, Hey, I.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 27: Was just in response to that Danner Losky comment about
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 27: him being hating Drake May.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 27: I think he's been one of the most supported him
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 27: the most off the year. He's all he's talked about
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 27: on first tape this year. So he was proven wrong
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 27: about how he should sit the first two years of
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 27: his career, and he's admitted that he's wrong, and he's
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 27: he had him as his MVP up until like three
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 27: weeks ago, and now this week when he's coming out
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 27: telling everyone he'll vote for Stafford, people are turning their
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 27: back on him. But I so far have enjoyed watching
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 27: his content all year because he's been so supportive of him.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 4: So I don't know, I just so that's what I think.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 6: That whole.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 27: Narrative of Daniel. Look, he's been like a little out
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 27: of hand, and I think part of it that he
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 27: might vote for Stafford is maybe they were teammates a
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 27: while ago and maybe oh.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that could be here, that could be
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 4: his his you know, affinity for Stafford the person that
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 4: you might be right about that, but I think Joe
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 4: nailed it. That makes sense to me that recently Lasky
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 4: must have said that he's voting for Stafford or he
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 4: think staff which should be the m v P. And
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 4: that has somehow ruffled the feathers of people, which I
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 4: don't really get.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: Look who's back from the locker room?
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 16: What was the mood where the players friendly.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: To that none of them looked like Derek Henry, Hey, Mike,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: what was it like in the locker.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 6: Room fit out?
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 7: Hi everybody, I'm back. Sorry, it took me a little while.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 7: There's a lot of people in that locker room today,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 7: a lot of many people that you'mer, A lot of
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 7: very serious people in these guys.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, serious people. We'll get to the bottom.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: They wear suits, and the energy that they walk into
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: the locker room with is like we're here to get
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: to the bottom of it.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: Like it's so serious.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: But uh, just real quick.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 7: Morgan Moses was asked a little bit about distractions and
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 7: all that, and you know the company line, we're focused
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 7: on Miami, you know, we support our guys. But I
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 7: thought the interesting thing was Will Campbell talked, and Will
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 7: Campbell was getting ready to go out to practice. A
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 7: couple of funny moments in there. Somebody was like, you know, what,
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 7: what was the feeling, Like, what did you think right
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 7: after you know what happened? You knew you were going
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 7: to be out And he was just like f he said.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 7: And then while he was talking, did you say he
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 7: said the full word? He just goes, what was your thought?
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 7: You know when that happened?
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 11: He's like uh.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 7: And then while he's talking, Morgan Moses like starts playing
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 7: this hype music and like starts.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: From Louisiana State at six foot six, you know, like
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: hyping him up, so uh, good vibes. But otherwise getting
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: ready to go out to practice.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 7: So nothing, nothing really major to report, other than there
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 7: were a lot of people there and then the players.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: Weren't saying much.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 7: Can I assume that no digs, no Nazi digs, no
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 7: Dan see Barmore at all.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: No, No, that was not happening.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 7: And I did see Jack Westover, who was the only
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 7: kind of injury concerned. I mean, he didn't seem uh
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 7: hurt at the moment. I don't know if he'll be
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 7: out here in practice in a minute, and I does
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 7: he's playing walk by with with no boot on. I
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 7: saw that kind of last week. I didn't check the
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 7: nearest locker. I know, even't said his boot was still
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 7: at the locker. But you know, that, to me is
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 7: one of the biggest head scratches of this whole season.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 7: What's what's his deal? When's the status? When's he going
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 7: to be back?
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: And Evan Evan right in.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 7: The middle, right in the middle of the sims, getting
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 7: right in there, right in the middle of the scrums.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 7: He was right in front of Will, you know, and
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 7: asked him a little bit about like, you know, do
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 7: you feel like you're ready to go this weekend?
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: And Will was just like, it's up to the coaches
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 7: I'm just focused on getting out there and for thirty
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 7: minutes putting on my helmet and shoulder pads and you know, being.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: Able to move and being back in a practice.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 4: So very similar to Milton Williams last week.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, yeah, I guess, I guess.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: I guess he was a little bit more. I don't know,
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: we'll see, but yeah, it was the latest, latest and
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: greatest from the.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 6: Well.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: We got a hurry I'm sorry. I know at that
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: time of the week, all right, what are we?
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 19: How do we do?
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: Last week?
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 4: Not a great week, but everybody was pretty similar. But
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 4: there has to be one person at the top. That
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 4: was Paul. Let me tees himself up ten and six, uh, Mike,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 4: Alex Evan and Fred nine and seven wow, okay with
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 4: the spread alex Evan, Paul and Fred eight seven and
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: one okay, and Mike six nine and one. So here
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 4: are the sitting, here's the standing people, bade me. The
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 4: tie at the top remains heading into week eighteen, Alex
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 4: and Fred one sixty five ninety and one, so well
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 4: behind the Boston Cream contest by the way, I think
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 4: the leader had like eighty one losses something for him
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 4: well behind. Paul is in third at one fifty nine
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 4: ninety six and one, Mike one fifty four one oh
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 4: one and one, and Evan one fifty three one oh
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 4: two in one. So you're holding off Evan for that
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 4: last but you don't want.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: To finish last, and both don't want to do both, and.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 4: It's pretty much mathematically over for the other one to spread.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 4: Freddy Freddie Feels one thirty seven one point fifteen and
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 4: four Paul one thirty one, twenty two and four. So
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 4: I really cannot realistically catch Fred. That's too much to
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 4: pick up in one week. Evan one twenty seven, one
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 4: twenty five and four, Alex one twenty four, one, twenty
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 4: eight and four. I want everybody to pay attention to
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 4: this month, folks. Mike is one oh seven, one forty
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 4: five and four.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 11: It's bad.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 4: You have to try. You have a responsibility to be
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 4: that bet.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: Just to give Paul, I don't know what it is.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: Well, I just want to say, if anyone out there
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: has been putting their money where my mouth is, I'll
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: give you my venmo so I can get a taste,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: just a little taste. Yeah, let's beak, just a little taste.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 4: It just kind of what my beak.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 7: But it's safe to say that I'm better at being
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 7: bad than Fred is good at being good.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're really bad, Yeah you know, and you're good
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: at it if.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: You just if you just picked everything the opposite of
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: what Georgia I know.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's hard to know what I'm actually going
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: to pick.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 4: And this is gonna be this is going to be
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 4: a difficult week.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: It is playing and blah, blah. And even if you
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: do know, you don't know what they're gonna be. You know,
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: it's it's a tough week. So we'll start with Saturday night.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: There is no Thursday game this week, however, will we survive? Yes,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: Carolina eight and eight at Tampa Bay seven.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 4: And nine, So Tampa Bay is a two and a
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 4: half point favorite. If Tampa wins, they would then have
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 4: to wait to see what happens with Atlanta, and if
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 4: Atlanta wins, then Carolina would still go to the playoffs
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 4: at eight and nine. If Carolina wins, there the division
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 4: champ out right.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 11: That's it.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: And by the way, this game's on ESPN.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Tampa by two.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: The Patriots break the Buccaneers. I feel like that was
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: the last time I believe to buy.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: He broke the by broke them.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 7: Uh shoot, I'm going with my Panthers on the road,
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 7: taking the upset my Panthers.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: It's a joke between me and Power.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 4: Okay, Mike thinks they're good.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 6: I do.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 9: I just think they're I don't just respread, but they're frisky.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: Ah, Okay, come on misleading the pack today.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 4: I don't think much of you. The one of these teams,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 4: but I will take Carolina too. I think they have
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 4: a chance to win and they're in and Tampa doesn't
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 4: have that. So I'm gonna go with the Panthers. I
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 4: am gonna go with the Panthers as well. So that's
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 4: the four to thirty game on Saturday night. There's an
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 4: eight o'clock game on Saturday night, also on ESPN. It's
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 4: Seattle thirteen and three at the forty nine Ers twelve
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 4: and four. This one's a big one, the winning one,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 4: the winners the number one seed in the NFC. Strange
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 4: spread to me, Fred, I'll be interested to hear your thoughts.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 4: Seattle on the road by one and a half. No,
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 4: I'm good with that, Okay, I'm good with that.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm definitely tempted by Seattle, but I just I
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 7: don't trust Sam Donold in these big moments anymore.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go forty nine.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 9: Ers Seattle, Seattle.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna. I think that's a bad spread. I
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 4: think the Niners at home should be favored. I'll take
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 4: the Niners outright.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Seattle. You know, I haven't really
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: honestly paid a lot of attention to them. I know
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: they're playing really well, but I haven't. I don't think
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: I've watched one game that they play on the Pacific,
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: but they just keep racking them up. And I know
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: forty nine ers are really good and Perty's playing well,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: really well, but I'm gonna go with Seattle's a good
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: tests against that defense. Yeah, all right, Now we move
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: to Sunday at one on Fox. It's New Orleans six
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: and ten at Atlanta seven and nine.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 4: As I mentioned, this game could have some relevance in
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 4: the NFC South Race. The Falcons by three and a half.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 7: Falcons by three and a half. Yeah, I like the
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 7: Falcons at home. I will take them and I will
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 7: lay the points.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 9: Sure.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Saints. I think that they've
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 4: played well down the stretch. I think Tyler Shuck is
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 4: shown a little something and the Falcons I think had
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 4: a flukey win against the Rams and that was their
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 4: super Bowl last week.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: I am gonna go with the Falcons. My new favorite player,
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: Bijon Robinson.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 4: Freddy just realized that Jon Robinson's.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: Pretty pretty good, pretty good. So I'm gonna go with
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: the Falcons this week, not when we played them Sunday
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: at one, Cleveland four and twelve at Cincinnati six.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 4: And ten, Cincinnati by seven and a half.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: This is on CBS.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: I don't feel great about this one. I'll take Cincinnati,
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: but I'll take the points for Cleveland.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna do the same thing.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna do the same thing too, only because
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 4: Cleveland seems to have Joe Burrow's number and I don't
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 4: like laying more than a touchdown in that scenario. I
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 4: think Cincinnati will win the game. I think they're playing
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 4: pretty well here in the last week or two. But
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 4: I'll take the I'll take the hook the sharps. Know
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 4: what you just said, Paul, And yes, they gave him
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 4: six and a half. So think about that seven and
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 4: a half, seven and a half. So think about that, folks.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Cincinnati. Joe Burrow needs to prove
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 4: that he's having fun.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: Uh, and Cleveland had that big win last week and uh,
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: that was it for them, So I'll go. I'll go
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: with the Bengals, even though I hate them.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 11: Okay.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: Sunday at one CBS, Indianapolis eight and eight at Houston
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: eleven and five.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 4: Okay, Houston by ten and a half.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of points.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 4: Is no Rivers. Rivers, it's Riley because they've been eliminated.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: One of his kids has a birthday, he has to
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: did you happen.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 4: To see that he had his team there and all
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 4: the game, which I thought was kind of cool.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: That's cool.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: I'll take Houston and all lay the points same.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 4: So I'm going to take Houston to win the game.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 4: I you know, now, I'm talk myself out of it.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know what's going to happen in these games.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 4: Who's going to play. I'm gonna take Houston both ways?
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, me just in both Houston both ways. Sunday
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: at one on Fox Tennessee three and thirteen at Jacksonville
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: twelve and four.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 4: Okay, Jacksonville by twelve and a half. These two games
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 4: have sneaky interest for the Patriots, and I'm not going
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 4: to get into specifically, but I think there's some value
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 4: if you can keep Buffalo behind whoever the wild card
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 4: is out of the AFC CELT So, in other words,
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 4: if Jacksonville or Houston loses this game, they would finish
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 4: behind the Bill. The Bills will be the five. You
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 4: want the Bills to be the six? Because then if
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 4: the Bills end up winning that six three game, they
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 4: have to go to Denver, and that that I think
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 4: is better. Right, So you want no, you want them
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 4: both to win. Both to win, Okay, that would keep them,
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 4: that would keep Buffalo behind whoever the loser or the division.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 7: Contact, Paul, I really appreciate that. I'm gonna make it
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 7: happen here. I'm gonna take jack Sainville. Shoot, that's a
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 7: lot of points, but I'm gonna lamb same.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna lay the points to which is normally
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 4: not what I like to do in a division game.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 4: But I think Jacksonville needs the win and they'll play
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 4: like it.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: I think Jacksonville needs the win and they're gonna play hard,
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: but they're not you know, that team. So I will
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: take the points. Jacksonville wins, but Tennessee, you know, stays
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: with him for a little bit enough to beat the spread,
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: and your.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 4: In your side. Cam Woods played pretty well, I think
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 4: you said, multiple touchdowns four straight games. Yeah, so he's
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 4: finishing the season on a high note.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: Sunday at one on CBS Green Bay nine, six and
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: one at Minnesota eight and eight.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 4: So this is one of those spreads. That tells you
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 4: that they know a little something. Minnesota by six and
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 4: a half, so I wouldn't expect to have a lot
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 4: of regular players for green Bay playing in this game.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll take I'll take Minnesota, but I'm gonna take
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 7: the points for green Bay.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 4: Can you can you tell me the status of Malik
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 4: willis anybody.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 8: Like?
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 4: Are they gonna have to be having a third quarterback
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 4: play in this game? Because I wouldn't imagine they're gonna
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 4: rush Jordan Love back out there, right?
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: Two hours ago it said they just signed a quarterback.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 9: No Man Vikings, Vikings.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is I hate these games. I'm gonna take
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 4: Minnesota both ways.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: That's the pick, Paul, Minnesota both ways. It's in Minnesota.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: Go with them. Sunday at one Fox Alis seven, eight
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: and one at the Giants three and thirteen.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 4: Dallas by three and a half, three and a half.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Giants at home.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: We know why they got rid of Digs.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: A number of issues.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 4: Because he stinks okay performance And just to lend some
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 4: contexts to that, do you know what his according to TFF?
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 4: You know what the passer rating he's allowed is this year.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 11: I don't know. Point three.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: Wow, that'd be perfect, that's perfect.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Cowboys, Cowboys.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 4: I am going to take the Giants, like Mike at home.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 4: I don't think Dallas probably will have a whole lot
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 4: of interest in this game.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: I'm going to take Dallas too. They're seven eight and one.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: They don't want to finish with a losing record, so
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: I think that's something to play for.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 4: That's not bad reasoning. That's why Freddie Fields is at
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 4: the top.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: Sunday four twenty five on CBS, the Jets three and
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: third team against Buffalo eleven and five.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this spread also shows me that people won't be
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 4: playing Buffalo by seven.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: Oh oh, it would have been twenty if they were playing.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's easy. I'll take Buffalo by seven.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 9: Same.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 4: You guys are so confident, man, look.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: At the results. Confidence just say it with conviction.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 4: But think, I guess I'll lay. Yeah, I'll lay the seven.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 4: I just I don't know who's going to play. Yeah,
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 4: that spread tells that would definitely have been a double
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 4: digit spread, right, Yeah, absolutely. I mean the Patriots were
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 4: a double digit spread on the road against the Jets. Yeah,
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 4: I'll take Buffalo both ways. Mitch Trubisky should be able to.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: So here's the thing. Aaron Glenn had to walk it back,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: but came out publicly after the AM has said it's
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: the first game that he really questioned his team effort.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: I think this is not that this they can get
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: anything by winning this game, but I think that these
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: are men, they're professionals. I think there was a come
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: to Jesus probably going on. Jets win this game. I
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: hope you're right. I hope you're right outright.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 4: That would set up the greatest theater ever Buffalo, New England.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 4: That would be awesome.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: The Jets win the theater. The Jets win this game.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: It's not a lock.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 6: I'm not.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: I don't want you to run to the window with
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: my pick.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 4: But man, I hope you're right because that would be
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 4: unbelievable theater.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: Jets win the game. Sunday four on Fox Detroit eight
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: and eight at Chicago, eleven and five.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 4: Chicago by three.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, that's a good game. I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: take Chicago. Lay the points.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: Detroit still has a like outside chance, right are they out?
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 9: Okay out Chicago?
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to take Chicago as well. I could
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 4: see Detroit playing hard in the game to try to
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 4: salvage whatever they can, but I think the Bears are
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 4: a little bit of better position to win this one.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: The Bears win the game for on CBS, it's the
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: Chargers eleven and five at Denver thirteen and three, Denver
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: by twelve and a half.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: Yees, that's a lot.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna take Denver, but I'm gonna actually take the
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 7: points for the Chargers. I just think both teams kind
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 7: of take the foot off the gas once it's out,
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 7: and it won't be that.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 11: Big of a spread.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 9: Who's the Chargers backup quarterback?
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: Who was the first round pick? Don't forget that.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 9: Denver to win. Maybe Chargers sneaky cover at the end.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: Good, Alex Good.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Denver both ways. I think that'll be
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 4: a tough defense for a backup quarterback to go against.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 4: If it was Herbert playing, then be totally different. But
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 4: I think that it's unlikely that Herbert's the only front
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 4: line player for the Chargers that won't playing in this game.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 4: I think he'll rest as many guys as he can.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the points Denver wins, but I'm hoping
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: the Chargers put up a fight. Here got my Bonnicks,
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: Voodoo doll and Stickys in it. You know, we got
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: to get that one seed. You never know, but it's
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: in Denver, of course. I don't know how they get
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: away with it. I don't know how they do it.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 7: I feel like if Patriots go to Denver this year
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 7: to play in the playoffs, you need to do like
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 7: a Fred video of just being frustrated.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 2: Of well, of course we here, we are, here, we are.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: Sunday four on Fox, Arizona three and thirteen at the
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: Rams eleven.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 4: And five, Rams by seven and a half.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, give me the Rams.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 9: Ms ROMs.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 4: Rams haven't played very well on defense lately, but I'm
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 4: gonna take the Rams both ways.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 2: Yep, Rams both ways. Sunday four, twenty five on CBS,
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: Kansas City six and ten at the Raiders two and four.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 4: Tough game, Chiefs by five and a half.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: That's a gross one right now.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: The Raiders have the number one overall pick.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's yeah.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: Giants are number two.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the Raiders want that number one pick.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna I'm gonna take Kansas City.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 4: Me too, Yeah, I'm gonna go down the way I
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 4: have the rest of the season, losing the Kansas City
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 4: game by picking the Chiefs Kansas City. No Max Crosby,
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 4: no Brock Bowers.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Kansas City as well. I
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 2: think the vague the Raiders really want that number one pick.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: In Vegas, Sunday four twenty five on CBS, it's the
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: Commanders at four and twelve at the Eagles eleven and five.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 4: Eagles by seven.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: Sugar the Eagles.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 10: The only thing tripping me up is that spread has
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 10: gone down. Eagles minus four and a half. Philly Philly.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to take I'm going to take Philly
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 4: to win the game, but I will take the points.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 4: I don't think very many guys are gonna be playing
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 4: for the Eagles either. That's one of one of the
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 4: games that I have no idea about it.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 2: I will once again take the points. Philadelphia wins, but
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: the Commander's stay in it.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 2: We skip over the Patriots at four twenty five, Sorry,
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: thank you, and we move to Sunday night, eight twenty
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 2: on NBC Peacock and Universo. It's Baltimore eight and eight
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 2: against Pittsburgh nine and seven. The battle for the AFC North.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, winners and loses out Baltimore by three and a half.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take Baltimore in this one, right, Derek Ride.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 4: See, Yeah, these teams just so even, they play so
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 4: many even games. But I'll take Baltimore. I don't know
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 4: why because they lost the first game. I guess you know.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: The thing about these games too is they're usually they
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 2: well they used to be. I don't know if they
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: still are, but slobber knockers. I mean, guys were just
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: beat the crap out of each other. I don't know
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: if that's still the case, particularly with Pittsburgh, but it's
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: a tough one. Gotta hurry. Pittsburgh can pull off a
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: win over Baltimore anytime. But I'm gonna go with Baltimore.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Baltimore. I think John Harbaugh needs
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 2: to coach for his career, you know, his job here,
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: so he'll be using Derek Henry throughout all. Right, Now,
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 2: we move back to Sunday at four twenty five on Fox.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: It's My It's Miami seven and nine coming to the
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: thirteen and three New England Patriots.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 4: Patriots by ten and a half.
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, give me the Patriots.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 7: I don't think it's a blowout lone last week, but
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 7: might not look like a blow I still think it's
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 7: kind of a blow up, and say twenty eight seventeen Patriots.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 9: Pat's thirty four Dolphins twelve.
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: I like it twelve.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like the guys I have, thirty to seventeen.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 4: I think it's reasonably competitive for a little while, maybe
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 4: the first half. I think Miami's played well down the stretch,
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 4: but not enough talent and especially I don't haven't seen
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 4: any injury stuff. If they don't have Wattle, and I
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 4: don't know what a Chan's going to do if you
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 4: take those guys out. This could be just like last week.
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 4: This could be just like last week, overmatched.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 2: I have a lot of respect for a Chan. He's
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 2: probably one of the most well rounded offensive players in
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 2: the league. But that's about all that.
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 4: Amagon almost six yards of carries, yeah, five point seven yard.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 2: It's about all they have. I'll take the Patriots thirty
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 2: three fourteen to win the game, thirty three to fourteen.
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 2: Of course, I was right on the nose last week
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 2: Freddie Fields forty two to ten. I expect to be
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: the same this week. There is no Monday night game,
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 2: so that is it, and that's it for this show.
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: We are not going to be on air tomorrow. It's
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 2: New Year's Day, giving everybody day off if you don't
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 2: have to be here, so we will have a good weekend.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 2: It's the last week. Enjoy it of the regular season
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 2: and we will see you next Tuesday to recap.
• 2:01:24
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• 2:01:26
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• 2:01:39
  Speaker 4: That's a lot