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• 0:00
  Speaker 1: They knew the Cubs offense would be better with Tucker.
• 0:02
  Speaker 1: How could it not be? But the transformation has been
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: kind of astounding. They're leading the National League and run scored.
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: He's a big part of that.
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  Speaker 2: That's at the inside scoop with FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal. Ken,
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  Speaker 2: I listened to Fair Territory this morning, and you gave
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  Speaker 2: us like a little taste of your article about managers
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  Speaker 2: that could be on the hot seat this season. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to dive into a few of those if we may,
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  Speaker 2: and I want to start with the Saint Louis Cardinals
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  Speaker 2: because if Aj didn't read your article, I think he
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  Speaker 2: might be surprised to hear about your plan for what
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  Speaker 2: could happen or your theory for what could happen with
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  Speaker 2: the Cardinals if Ali Marmle ends up losing his job.
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  Speaker 2: So do you I'll queue you up on this one, Ken,
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that Marmel could actually stay with the
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  Speaker 2: organization if Skip Schumacher took over.
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  Speaker 1: I do, And obviously it would be an unusual situation
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  Speaker 1: and he might not want to stay, but he and
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  Speaker 1: Schumacher are close, and if you remember, Schumacher was on
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  Speaker 1: his staff in twenty twenty one his first staff. So
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  Speaker 1: if they make a change, and I am assuming they will, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: if they have a great year, things might change. But
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  Speaker 1: they're going to have a new head of baseball operations,
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  Speaker 1: Heim Bloom. He's going to take over for John Mozelok,
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  Speaker 1: and generally speaking, a new head of baseball operations wants
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  Speaker 1: his own person in there. What's also interesting about the
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  Speaker 1: Cardinals is you've got two former Cardinals greats, and I
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  Speaker 1: mean greats, future Hall of famers who want to manage
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  Speaker 1: in the big leagues. I'm talking about Yadier Molayna and
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  Speaker 1: Albert Poohols. I don't know how you choose between them.
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  Speaker 1: If you choose between them, So from that perspective, maybe
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  Speaker 1: Skip Schumacher is kind of a compromise candidate. Even though
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  Speaker 1: he's not an all time Cardinal great, he was a Cardinal,
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  Speaker 1: he was on their coaching staff, and certainly as a
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  Speaker 1: former National League Manager of the Year, he is someone
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  Speaker 1: who will have great appeal to any team making a change.
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  Speaker 3: Forward. You forgot about another cardinal grade he s you
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  Speaker 3: should throw on that list at him, chical Ken.
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  Speaker 1: I did forget that one?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the one I'm talking to me. Yeah, talking about
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  Speaker 3: we'll talk Olia definitely stay on my staff because we
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  Speaker 3: went to the same high school. Ken. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if you knew that or not, but I don't know that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I think Ollie would stay. I know
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  Speaker 3: I do, because he's been a cardinal like his whole life. Right,
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of like Shilt. It's like Brian Snicker, like,
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  Speaker 3: there's certain guys until Shilt got the job and then
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  Speaker 3: they fired him, and then he obviously left and went
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  Speaker 3: on the bigger and better things with San Diego. But
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  Speaker 3: I just think Olly doesn't know anything else, and there's
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  Speaker 3: certain people that are just meant to look at descalso
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  Speaker 3: coming back, right, John Jay coming back. I think Olie
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  Speaker 3: Marmel would seriously think about. I don't know if he
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  Speaker 3: would be on if it was Schumacher's staff, but I
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  Speaker 3: think he would definitely probably stay in the organization in
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  Speaker 3: some capacity if they wanted him to.
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  Speaker 1: It's an interesting question, and again it's hypothetical, as these
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  Speaker 1: discussions always are. Who knows which way the season might turn,
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  Speaker 1: who knows what Heim Blue might have in mind. He
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  Speaker 1: might have somebody else that we're not even talking about
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  Speaker 1: in mind to be the next manager. Maybe he wants
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  Speaker 1: Ali Marmel to be as next manager.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, but it just.
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  Speaker 1: Seems to me that logically speaking, we know when a
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  Speaker 1: new guy takes over in any business, in any walk
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  Speaker 1: of life, wants their own people. That's what new people want.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I have a question Ken about two of the
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  Speaker 5: other guys you mentioned in your piece, and they're on
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  Speaker 5: they managed for teams that really haven't seen much success
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  Speaker 5: with them at the Helm, but they've been there for
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  Speaker 5: a while. That's Bud Black and that's Derek Shelton you
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  Speaker 5: mentioned with new heads of you know, maybe president basement
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  Speaker 5: operations coming in, usually they want their own guys. So
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  Speaker 5: if these two guys are on the hot seat having
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  Speaker 5: been you know, at the Helm for some teams that
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  Speaker 5: have not been good for a while, what do you
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  Speaker 5: think do you think that is a they might bring
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  Speaker 5: in a top down This could be a top down
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  Speaker 5: thing or could they it just be like they hit
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  Speaker 5: the threshold for not being able to to win win
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  Speaker 5: in the games, want to go with somebody.
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  Speaker 4: Else, Trevor.
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  Speaker 3: You know this, anytime a new president of baseball ops
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  Speaker 3: or new general manager comes in, they usually give the
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  Speaker 3: manager a little bit of time now, Jim's been there.
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  Speaker 3: This is a second year with the Cords. We've seen
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  Speaker 3: Olie for two years now, right. But if somebody comes in,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's in Pittsburgh or whether it's somewhere else, they
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  Speaker 3: usually give them a little bit of time. Now, if
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  Speaker 3: the manager is a free agent or at the end
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  Speaker 3: of his contract, then all bets are all. But normally
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  Speaker 3: they give them a little bit of time to assess,
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  Speaker 3: and they'll fire him in the first year and be like, eh,
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  Speaker 3: kick Rocks.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know Ken, your thoughts got it.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, Age, I heard your mock imitation of me.
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  Speaker 5: It was weak.
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  Speaker 3: Trevor.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure which teams you were asking about, so
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  Speaker 1: I thought maybe you mentioned Pittsburgh was one.
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  Speaker 5: Pittsburgh and Colorado.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, there are two teams that operate a
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  Speaker 1: little bit differently. I'll put that as politely as I can.
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  Speaker 1: Colorado in particular, they seem to be in their own
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  Speaker 1: parallel universe to the rest of the sport. Bill Schmid
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  Speaker 1: took over just a couple of years ago. I don't
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  Speaker 1: expect that he would be in trouble. And but Black,
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  Speaker 1: as I wrote, is one of the most respected people
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  Speaker 1: in the game and everybody likes him there. No one
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  Speaker 1: wants to embarrass him or anything like that. But it's
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  Speaker 1: fair to ask whether it's time for a new voice,
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  Speaker 1: fresher voice for those younger players that they're kind of
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  Speaker 1: bringing into the mixiere and I mentioned the third base
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  Speaker 1: coach Warren Schaefer, who managed some of these guys in
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  Speaker 1: the minor leagues and certainly would be that kind of profile.
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  Speaker 1: He would be a rocky internal higher They love that
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  Speaker 1: kind of thing there. They don't like to go outside
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  Speaker 1: Heaven forbid. So that's one thought. Pittsburgh is a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more complicated in my view. The owner, Bob Nutting,
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  Speaker 1: has said that he expects better results. He said that
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  Speaker 1: before last season, he said it before this season. It's
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  Speaker 1: the sixth year for the general manager Ben Sherrington and
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  Speaker 1: the manager Derek Shelton. They're not getting better results now.
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  Speaker 1: The number one reason for that, in my opinion, is
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  Speaker 1: the owner and his unwillingness to fund the team the
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  Speaker 1: way he should major league payroll. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: if he is expecting results and quote unquote demanding results
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  Speaker 1: and they're not being produced that way, then it stands
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  Speaker 1: the reason he could make a change.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe it's just.
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  Speaker 1: Sherrington, Maybe it's just Shelton. More likely it would be
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  Speaker 1: the manager before the general manager. But it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: predict what Bob Nutting might do, and it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: even really get a gauge on where they are when
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  Speaker 1: the general manager isn't really allowed to operate the way
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  Speaker 1: other general managers are and the manager is working for
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  Speaker 1: a GM who is under restrictions and ownership that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: let the team be the way it should. That is
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  Speaker 1: what makes it difficult to.
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  Speaker 3: I want to know, and I'm going to have a
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  Speaker 3: follow up for you. Who's the best team in baseball
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  Speaker 3: right now?
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  Speaker 1: I was watching San Diego last night and they look
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  Speaker 1: pretty good. They've yet to lose it home, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: surprised a little bit by them because obviously they didn't
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  Speaker 1: have have a very active offseason. They still have great players.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, Tatist is playing out of his mind right now,
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  Speaker 1: but they have pitched extremely well. The back end of
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  Speaker 1: their bullpen's really good. So, if I had to choose,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's a recentcy biased because I watched them come
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  Speaker 1: back on the Cubs last night, but I'll go with
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  Speaker 1: the Padres.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, And then how do you judge that because we
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  Speaker 3: have this argument all the time with Scott like run
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  Speaker 3: differential eyes, your eyes player wise, how do you, Ken Rosendald,
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  Speaker 3: judge in your opinion who you think is the best team.
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  Speaker 3: And let's say your power rankings right now, because I
• 8:33
  Speaker 3: need help with my power rankings.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's not run differential, and I heard your discussion
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  Speaker 1: about this. This early in the season, especially, run differential
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  Speaker 1: is essentially meaningless. The Cubs won by sixteen the other day,
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  Speaker 1: the Rays one by fourteen or fifteen yesterday. That skews
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  Speaker 1: run differential. It makes it impossible to judge at this
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  Speaker 1: point in the season by that. If at any point
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  Speaker 1: in this season, I kind of judge it by obviously
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  Speaker 1: a team performance record and look at kind of how
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  Speaker 1: they're playing. Some teams are not producing a great record yet,
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  Speaker 1: but you know they're better than they are. I think
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: Boston is better than they've shown, right, But in sheer performance,
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  Speaker 1: you have to look at the Padres, you have to
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  Speaker 1: look at the Giants the way they're playing, and those
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  Speaker 1: teams right now do look like the best teams in baseball.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not sure really there's anyone close. The Dodgers
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  Speaker 1: obviously started really well, went through his slide, and now
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  Speaker 1: after last night, perhaps they rally again. They're going to
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  Speaker 1: be really good.
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  Speaker 4: We all know that.
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  Speaker 1: But right now, the best team in baseball, especially at
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  Speaker 1: pet Goo Park where they're undefeated, that's San Diego.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. And then last thing, who did you pick to
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  Speaker 3: win the American League?
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  Speaker 4: Who did I pick?
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: I picked the Texas Rangers, who have not hit a lick.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So I picked the Red Sox. They're doomed. I
• 9:52
  Speaker 3: picked the Braves. You pick the Braves, so I know
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: they're doomed. How do we can we change our picks?
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  Speaker 4: Ay?
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  Speaker 1: J We could do whatever we want. Frequent I just
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  Speaker 1: tend to forget my picks. And yeah, no one is
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  Speaker 1: embarrassing me at the end of the year.
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: But that's reality.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say, Ken chooses to maybe, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you forget about him that. I know that's not your
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: favorite thing, predictions. Ken, So let me get back to
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  Speaker 2: some business and some news here.
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: What those are fun questions for Ken?
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  Speaker 4: I agree?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but factor fiction, Ken, you hate predicting. That's fact,
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  Speaker 2: That's all it's people want to know Ken.
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  Speaker 4: Ken doesn't know.
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  Speaker 1: The reason is I always say, Scott, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I always say. I repeat this all the time. Tell
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: me who's gonna get hurt? Tell me who's going to
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  Speaker 1: get traded, and I'll do a much better job predicting,
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: But you can't tell me those things. I don't know
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: what's going to happen. No one does, and that's the
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: beauty of the game. So we all have fun with predictions,
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  Speaker 1: of course, but I don't ever pretend mine or any
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  Speaker 1: better than anybody else's.
• 10:56
  Speaker 7: Don't worry fam to tell us who's getting traded, though
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  Speaker 7: he's the insider.
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: Well, baseball come alive.
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  Speaker 2: Well true, Well, then let's ask him about that. Do
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  Speaker 2: you think that Sandy al Contra could be the first
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  Speaker 2: guy traded here?
• 11:11
  Speaker 4: Or do I know?
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: Will Salmon wrote about this in The Athletic in the
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  Speaker 2: past twenty four hours, and do you think or the
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: Marlins are gonna let this one simmer for a little bit?
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  Speaker 1: Good question. The difference, as Will Rope, between Alcntra and
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  Speaker 1: some of the other players they've traded in recent years arise,
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  Speaker 1: most notably, is that he has more years of control left,
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: so they might be hesitant to move him and thinking, well,
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: we can keep him as long as we possibly can
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: drive the price up. We have the years of control,
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: so we don't have to do anything. We all know
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: the Marlins are going to do this. I don't think
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: there's any secret about that. It's just a matter of when.
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  Speaker 1: Could it be the first one traded? Yes, But I
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  Speaker 1: also believe teams are going to want to see more.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to want to see him keep pitching. He's
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: coming off Tommy John surgery, of course, and they don't
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  Speaker 1: want to base this off a handful of I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: six seven starts, whatever the case might be. There needs
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  Speaker 1: to be more of a body of work for teams
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  Speaker 1: to be convinced that he's back to where he was.
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  Speaker 1: He's looked good so far, but a little inconsistent, So
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  Speaker 1: I expect him to be traded. I just don't know
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  Speaker 1: that it'll be that early.
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  Speaker 5: I want to check in a little bit on a
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  Speaker 5: lot of the things that happened in the offseason that
• 12:23
  Speaker 5: we had, all the free agents signs, all the trades
• 12:25
  Speaker 5: and stuff. In my opinion, I want to get your
• 12:28
  Speaker 5: take on this. Kyle Tucker going to the Cubs was
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  Speaker 5: one of the best moves at the time, and I
• 12:34
  Speaker 5: think it's played out that way to maybe be the
• 12:36
  Speaker 5: most valuable moving player. Would you agree with that sentiment
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  Speaker 5: or is there another maybe signing that you think has
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  Speaker 5: worked out even better for another team.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, Trevor, that trade looks like it's great for both
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  Speaker 1: and Kyle Tucker has transformed the Cubs. And as I mentioned,
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: I was watching that game last night. I don't remember
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: if it was Boo Shambi or Rick Suckliff who said it,
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  Speaker 1: but what they said was they knew the Cubs off
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: would be better with Tucker. How can it not be?
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  Speaker 1: But the transformation has been kind of astounding. They're leading
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  Speaker 1: the National League and run scored. He's a big part
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  Speaker 1: of that. He's playing at an MVP level. So are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of other guys in the National League right now, Tatiz,
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  Speaker 1: a few others, but he has been monumental to that
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  Speaker 1: team thus far. Now, what I was going to say
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  Speaker 1: about the rest of the trade is that Cam Smith
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  Speaker 1: looks like he's going to be a star for Houston.
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  Speaker 1: Hayden Weistnski has pitched well for the Astros as well,
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  Speaker 1: and you guys talked about parades. So it looks like
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  Speaker 1: one of those deals that's really good for both. But yes,
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  Speaker 1: Tucker has been that important an addition, and it kind
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: of shows you, guys, how one player You can't value
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: him for his statistics alone. You have to value him
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  Speaker 1: for what he brings to a lineup and how he
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: can transform a lineup. And that's what Tucker has done.
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  Speaker 1: It's been kind of a multiplier with what he has
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  Speaker 1: accomplished so far in that it's extended to the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the team.
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  Speaker 3: Ken, Chris Bryant went on the IL with degenerative disc
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: degeneration something I forget with the triple D, what was it,
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  Speaker 3: degenerative disc? I don't know. I don't forget what the
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: third D was. But is this career threatening for him?
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  Speaker 3: I know, since he's gone to Colorado, he hasn't been
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  Speaker 3: what we thought he was gonna be for his career,
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  Speaker 3: But is this something that could possibly be career threatening
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  Speaker 3: for Chris Bryant?
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  Speaker 2: And it's disease, Ken, Sorry, just to throw into degenerative
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  Speaker 2: disc disease in his lower back go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: When I saw that, that was my initial thought. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: that sounds really bad. But reading the accounts this morning
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: from the Rockies beat writers, it sounds like the Rockies
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  Speaker 1: expect him back in relatively short order, that this is
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  Speaker 1: something he has dealt with. He's had back issues for
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: a while my understanding is it's multiple discs and certainly,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: as you guys know, I don't have to tell you,
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: playing in that condition is really difficult. But it does
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  Speaker 1: not sound, to answer your question, AJ like its career threatening. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: it's debilitating to him. It's tough on him, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: mentally as well as physically. But again, from what I
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  Speaker 1: read this morning, it did not sound like it's career threading.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Last thing, because I don't know if you
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: discussed this on Fair or not, or I don't know
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: when we're gonna have you on where I'm gonna get
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: to talk to you again, But I want to know.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Did you see the Won Soto quotes that came out
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  Speaker 3: today in the New York Post about and everywhere about man,
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: it's different when I don't have the best guy hitting
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  Speaker 3: behind me. Thoughts on this and does this make you
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: happy as a Met fan after you signed him to
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: a seven hundred and sixty five million dollar contract.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: I did see the quotes. I understand why people might
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: be upset to read that. In my view, he was
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: speaking matter of factly. He was just saying, I'm getting
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: pitched differently, I don't have that guy Aaron Judge behind
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  Speaker 1: me anymore, even though he's got the best hitter in
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: the game right now, Peter a Lonzo hitting behind him.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: He was just noting that it's different from him. I
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: didn't take it as complaining. I didn't take and his regrets.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I just thought it was kind of a matter of
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: fact statement. And it's true he is getting pitched differently.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm sure this will be quite the topic of
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: discussion in New York.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not so sure that it should be Oh yeah,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: this is great, right to.
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  Speaker 3: Kill the lead? Ken to kill the lead on New
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: York radio?
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  Speaker 4: What do you think? Do you think this was a
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: big deal?
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: I just think it's interesting that he says this.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, you're Pete. Tell us the players.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Listen if I'm Pete. I know I'm not Aaron Judge,
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: but I'm just like, dude, you just signed the biggest
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: contract of all time.
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: You're supposed to be that guy you want, so, you're
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: supposed to be the best dinner in baseball. You just
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: signed the biggest contract of all time. Like, why shouldn't
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: matter who's in front of you behind you think Barry
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: Bond's cared only think it matter for Barry Bonds was
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: he got pitched differently with the guy behind him, but
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: he always said the.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Guy in front of him was more important because there
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: was a guy at first, they wouldn't walk him.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: One other thing here, aj As a reporter, we always
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: want players to be transparent and honest and talk about
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: what they're feeling, and then at times this kind of
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: thing happens and we crush them for being what we
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: asked them to be. I never think that's entirely fair,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: and I certainly understand why people might think he should
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: have kept that to himself. In fact, John Hayman wrote
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: that in The New York Post, it's fine to think
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: what he's thinking, but he should have kept it to himself.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I agree, But I also don't think reporters should ever
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: be telling players don't talk. So here's a guy who talked,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: who was honest, or at least in his view, he
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: was honest, and it seems to me it would be
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: a little unfair to crush him for that.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm not crushing him. I love listen, I
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: love the honesty from player. I'm not crushing him at all.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: I'm just thinking what I was thinking if I was
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Peter Alonzo, I'm like, dude, you're supposed to be just
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: signed you for seven hundred and sixty five million here,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: that's supposed to be you. Dude.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: If I'm Peter Alonzo, I'm raising my eyebrows. Put it
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: that way. But at the same time, they're performing really well.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: For the most part. He's doing fine. He's not doing
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: like amazing, but he's fine on basis four hundred. So
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: to me, this is a much ado about nothing for
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: the most.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Part, except in New York, Trevor, except in New York.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Accept in New.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: York, except in New York exactly.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: Well, Petez off to a great start, by the way.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: Check out his numbers.
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  Speaker 2: Ken, thank you, great convo. We'll catch you on Fair
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Territory on Thursday. Thanks guys, thank you. Fair Territory Live
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: every Thursday. Para Territory of course, also just came out
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: yesterday if you want to check that out. Lots of
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: topics hit, including Ken's perspective on trout versus the fan
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: over the weekend. We didn't ask him because he already
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: talked about it, So check out the show later on.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Wherever you get your shows or your pods.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Let's go in the weeds.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Jason Stark wrote an article that came out over the
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: weekend about the Atlantic League, which is really the test
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: league these days, the Independent Atlantic League. They experiment one
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: of the they're going to do this year that starts
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: soon April twenty fifth, QR codes on baseballs. So if
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: you're a fan and you end up with the baseball,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: you can smack that QR code and maybe get something
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: fun out of it. It's almost like a giveaway fifty
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: percent off tickets. He was putting some examples for a
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: future game, free parking, other ballpark perks, food discounts, free stuff,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: et cetera. Trevor, you're a pretty big tech guy. What
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: do you think about a QR code on a baseball?
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Love it? Love it?
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: One of the best uses of QR codes there is,
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: in my opinion. I mean, you get a ball and
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: then there's some some other like randomized thing in there.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's cool, and I think it's smart for
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: Independent league and even minor league teams if they wanted
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: to do it, like to get people to come back
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: and make it like a regular thing. They're always trying
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: to find ways to get butts and seats in the
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: smaller you know, smaller parks, So I'm all for it.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: And then it just like it's completely open ended, like
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: every team could do different stuff. You could have like
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: games that are like I have really high value stuff
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: if you want to, like last game of the season,
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: it's fan appreciation night, and like the prizes are crazy good, right.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: I think it's a great idea, And I think it
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: adds even a little bit more excitement around going and
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: running after a foul ball for the kids because there
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: might be some like candy or something involved. And I
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: knew when I was a kid and watching Little league game,
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: I would always run for the balls because we get
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: a snow cone if I turn it in. So yeah,
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: bring that back, bringing that to independent ball.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: I love it. Yeah, that's playing to your audience too.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: If you're trying to attract younger fans, they would be
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: into that because you get the ball and then you
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: also get to find out.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: It's almost like.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Opening up a pack, right, what's behind this particular baseball?
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: As long as the prize isn't too good, because then
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: people might be fighting each other with the foul ball.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: True they already do anyways, True, what do you think
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: you like this, right, I like it to do stuff.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: It doesn't do anything wrong.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Oh, if it's a way to give away tickets or
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: at a zero cleats that are flowery with flower bottoms,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: and there's reliant and super fun and super cool, I mean,
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: I'm all for it. I think this is a way
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: to grow the game. I'm all about growing the game
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: and make people more engaged in the game. I don't
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: want people to fight over baseballs.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Sure, but the already do. You're right they do anyways.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the guy fought Mike Trout for one the other day.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: True right, it's Mike QR. Could well you win a
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: meeting with me in the tunnel?
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: See true? No, I think it's really cool.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I didn't ever hear about that until Jason brought it
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: up in the article. But it makes a lot of sense.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I'd be curious if there's someone that doesn't like that.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: There's always I'm curious. Don't touch the baseballs. I want
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: them to look the way they did in the agent.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Do they travel different when they went from Bud Seeler
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: to Rob Manford's signature on them, that's different? More inc
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: lass ink yep. It changed them from national League and
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: American League to just Major League Baseball. There's more ink.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Some people don't like change, but anyway, I think it's cool.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: That was a pretty easy one to cover. We all
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: agree it's awesome.