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Pecco's Wet Weather Masterclass in Thailand & Iannone is back for Malaysia! MotoGP Pit Talk · Pit Talk

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Speaker 1: The pressure is on full boil as MotoGP continues to
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Speaker 1: spice things up. The championship battle is now only separated
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Speaker 1: by seventeen points, with the hashtag rematch becoming the main
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Speaker 1: ingredients in our recipe for a Moto GP champion.
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Speaker 2: Thailand was all about.
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Speaker 1: The battle of the brave. But will Malaysia bring the
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Speaker 1: heat or be the calm before the final storm? As
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Speaker 1: the writer's head just to paying, every point is served
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Speaker 1: hot and every move is.
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Speaker 2: A dash of daring.
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Speaker 1: Can the current leader hold their nerve or all the
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Speaker 1: challenges cook up a surprise? I'm your host, Rineita Vmullen,
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Speaker 1: and joining me is the man that has the insider edge,
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Speaker 1: like a perfectly balanced Ty Curry, bold, sharp and never dull.
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Speaker 1: Matt Clayton, Matt Thailand, Bean and Gorne. And I know
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Speaker 1: we're obviously going to talk about the championship contenders and
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Speaker 1: the fight and everything, but let's talk about that weekend.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the drama, the excitement that was Moto.
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Speaker 3: GP to a t ah Look, sure was Renado. Look firstly,
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Speaker 3: love the intro because it's made me feel really hungry
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Speaker 3: for all that talk of food. But look, Thailand was
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Speaker 3: I love it when it gets to this time of
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Speaker 3: the season and we have a live championship fight, because
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Speaker 3: it just magnifies everything that little bit more. There's an
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Speaker 3: increase in attention, there's an increase in perhaps some political interference.
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Speaker 3: You've got this intra du Catti battle where Ducati can't lose,
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Speaker 3: but they can if Martin wins the World Championship and
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Speaker 3: then disappears with another one to a prilier for next year.
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Speaker 3: So throw a wet race into the mix. And we
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Speaker 3: haven't had a wet race in so long that I'd
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Speaker 3: forgotten how tense they were a bit of Jack Miller involvement.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it was super, super fun, great time slot
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Speaker 3: for Australian audiences. And here we arrive at Sapaang with
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Speaker 3: our first match point for Juge Martin again in a
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Speaker 3: great time slot for Rossie audiences, and bring it on.
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Speaker 1: I say, well, let's talk about you caddy because Saturday's
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Speaker 1: sprint all eight you caddies were in the top eight.
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Speaker 2: I've been racking my brain.
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Speaker 1: I'm going has that ever happened before where the entire
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Speaker 1: Jucaddi lineup has completely like, especially when there's so many
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Speaker 1: privateer teams right.
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Speaker 3: It's amazing to me that, given how good Ducaddi's been
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Speaker 3: this year, that it took us to the third last
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Speaker 3: round for them to lock out the top eight in
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Speaker 3: a sprint or a race, because they've been clearly the
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Speaker 3: best bike all year, and you think, how hasn't this
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Speaker 3: happened before? But you know, people have been injured, or
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Speaker 3: they've taken each other out or what have you. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: that was they just underlined twenty twenty four in thirteen
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Speaker 3: laps on Saturday, where the top eight finishes were all
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Speaker 3: eight of the Ducaddies. Certainly didn't get that on Sunday.
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Speaker 3: But it has been a Ducati Championship this year. But
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Speaker 3: full credit to Ducadi in some ways in that they
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Speaker 3: haven't done what you would think would be sensible and
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Speaker 3: maybe put some team orders in here or start interfering
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Speaker 3: behind the scenes. These guys are free to race at
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Speaker 3: the moment, and I say at the moment because it
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Speaker 3: could be a caveat in that, but yeah, it pretty
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Speaker 3: much summed upmurdor gup in twenty twenty four, didn't it.
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Speaker 3: If you're scanning down the list and you're trying to
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Speaker 3: look for the first non Ducaddi and you're just going
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Speaker 3: further and further and and then you eventually find one
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Speaker 3: in ninth place.
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Speaker 2: I was reading on a.
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Speaker 1: Not a Fox article, unfortunately, but support him for starters.
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Speaker 1: I know I shouldn't be starting the Fox podcast on that,
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Speaker 1: but I've heard Anne Vashanini has said that there are
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Speaker 1: no team orders in Malaysia. His quote was something along
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Speaker 1: the lines of, I also want to win in Malaysia,
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Speaker 1: so I'm going to be trying to win that race.
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Speaker 1: So I'm not sure if if ANAA is going to
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Speaker 1: necessarily be helping Peko try and defend off Juhe Martine
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Speaker 1: this weekend. But we noticed that he didn't really do
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Speaker 1: that either at in Thailand, did he Because he won
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Speaker 1: the sprint on Sunday, but then an A crash out
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Speaker 1: of the main race sorry sprint on Saturday, and then
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Speaker 1: an AA crashing out on the main race on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: So I kind of feel like ana is just trying
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Speaker 1: to finish off his year, not necessarily think about the
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Speaker 1: championship or Peko.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because up until the end of the
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Speaker 3: Thailand Sunday race, both an AA and Mark Marquez were
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Speaker 3: still mathematically in contingent for the title now realistic. We
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Speaker 3: know they probably weren't, but they were still mathematically in it.
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Speaker 3: The problem they've got now is that, yeah, there's two
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Speaker 3: rounds to go, Bastianini and Marquez are both out of
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Speaker 3: championship contention. But particularly in the case of Bastianini, he's
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Speaker 3: leaving Dakti altogether in two races, So why does he
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Speaker 3: particularly care what Doukati want? And why is he necessarily
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Speaker 3: going to listen to any potential demands for management to
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Speaker 3: do the right thing by his teammate in Banyaya because
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Speaker 3: he's not going to be there next year anyway. He's
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Speaker 3: off to KTM. Ducati have decided he's surplus to need.
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Speaker 3: So there's all these little associated side stories that they've
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Speaker 3: kind of been, I don't know, hovering for a lot
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Speaker 3: of the season because all the rider market stuff shook
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Speaker 3: out so early. It's at this time of the season
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Speaker 3: now where every point is critical. Like you said in
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Speaker 3: the intro, that's when all this stuff really comes to roost.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, be super interesting to see a if Anaya
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Speaker 3: is asked in Malaysia because he's now out of championship contention,
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Speaker 3: but if he's hearing suddenly it doesn't work. Sorry, I
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Speaker 3: didn't understand the request. So it's gonna be a bit
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Speaker 3: of that going on. It could be a few mapping
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Speaker 3: eight signals and other things, and his Malaysia after alls.
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Speaker 3: It's always possible. So it just adds to the intrigue,
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Speaker 3: doesn't it.
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Speaker 1: Even like Mark Marquez thinking like him at Philip Whalon
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Speaker 1: and watching him this weekend, some of those moves that
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Speaker 1: he was putting on Bana and Sunday's race, you can
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Speaker 1: just tell Mark is in it to win it, and
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Speaker 1: he is not necessarily thinking about the championship. We know
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Speaker 1: he respects what they're doing. We know he's eight time
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Speaker 1: world champion that understands it. But in that moment he's like,
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Speaker 1: I'm clearly faster, I'm going.
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Speaker 2: To go for this.
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Speaker 3: Well, when you say he does not thinking about the championship,
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Speaker 3: he might not be thinking about this one, but I
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Speaker 3: reckon he's thinking about next year in twenty twenty five,
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Speaker 3: when he and Banyai are in the same team on
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Speaker 3: the same equipment, and now, without doing something completely crazy
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Speaker 3: and taking somebody off, there are little psychological bombs you
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Speaker 3: can stick in there for next year, and it's like,
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Speaker 3: by the way, the only risk you won the World
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Speaker 3: Championship is that I beat the guy that was trying
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Speaker 3: to fight you for it. Or you can say I'm
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Speaker 3: riding a year old bike and I'm still fighting with
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Speaker 3: you guys who are going for the championship, So just
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Speaker 3: watch me go next year. So there's all these little
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Speaker 3: psychological things, and we know Mark's brilliant at this, this
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Speaker 3: is what he does. So any chance he has to
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Speaker 3: try and steal a little inch of territory against Van
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Speaker 3: Yaya next year, I think you'll probably take it. I
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Speaker 3: don't think he's going to pull over and wave him through.
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Speaker 3: So given that it is a bit of a decadi
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Speaker 3: benefit at the moment, as you said before, you know,
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Speaker 3: I still think there's a lot of player in these
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Speaker 3: last two races, and I don't think it's going to
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Speaker 3: be a simple road to the championship for either rider,
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Speaker 3: despite the points suggesting that it's Martine's to lose, and
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Speaker 3: we can probably get into that in a sec. But
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Speaker 3: there's going to be some drama. You just know there's
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Speaker 3: going to be with these two venues and the weather
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Speaker 3: you get at each too, and just how finely poised
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Speaker 3: everything is in that Ducati stable, there's going to be
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Speaker 3: some drama.
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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you your thoughts on Peko this
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Speaker 1: weekend because I thought I saw a very similar Pecko
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Speaker 1: to what we witnessed that Philip Island in the fact
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Speaker 1: that Friday Saturday he looked stressed.
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Speaker 2: He looked nervous.
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Speaker 1: You could just see it in his facial expressions and
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Speaker 1: even his body language on the bike. And then it
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Speaker 1: seems like Sunday, I don't know, something happens overnight Saturday,
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Speaker 1: something clicks Sunday morning, and he looks calm, cool, collected,
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Speaker 1: and like the professor. And that's when we're seeing these results.
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Speaker 1: What do you think is going.
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Speaker 2: On there with Pecko?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. We've said this before in that I
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Speaker 3: think if Pecko's someone who likes to control controllables, so
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Speaker 3: when you have weekends where there's some sketchy weather or
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Speaker 3: some random tire behavior, or you know, he has his
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Speaker 3: lap interfered with with a red flag or a yellow
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Speaker 3: flag or something in Q two, if things aren't completely
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Speaker 3: on the path of Pecho, he can go off the
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Speaker 3: reservation a little bit. But what was super interesting on
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Speaker 3: Sunday he said they found something in that Sunday morning
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Speaker 3: warm up, you know, ten minutes in the rain, and
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Speaker 3: then they sat around afterwards and worked something out behind
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Speaker 3: the scenes that gave him the confidence that he could
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Speaker 3: race the type of race he wanted on Sunday. And
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Speaker 3: you think, you know, in a position like he was,
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Speaker 3: where you know, that was as much win of a
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Speaker 3: race as he's probably had in the best part of
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Speaker 3: two or three years. And with that weather, with Mark
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Speaker 3: Marquez climbing all over him at a circuit that Mark
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Speaker 3: has been particularly strong out in the past, that was
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Speaker 3: the sort of day where Peco could have lost so
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Speaker 3: so much, but it was really impressive for him to
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Speaker 3: combat the conditions, absorb the pressure form behind, and do
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Speaker 3: exactly what he needed to do. It was almost the
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Speaker 3: perfect Sunday for him. And I say almost in that
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Speaker 3: he could have quite used Mark Marcus finishing second in
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Speaker 3: that race just to take a few more points of Martine.
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Speaker 3: So in the end he gained five points on Martin
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Speaker 3: on Sunday. But I think psychologically that's a huge victory
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Speaker 3: for him because there were a lot of trapdoors and
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Speaker 3: things that could have tripped him up on Sunday, and
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Speaker 3: he held his nerve and converted, and you know you
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Speaker 3: mentioned the professor. That's a win that not only he
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Speaker 3: could take, because there's other writers that do well in
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Speaker 3: those sketchy conditions. But it was a really, really well
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Speaker 3: taken victory given what was at stake. But yeah, you
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Speaker 3: are right, like, unless things are completely moving in a
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Speaker 3: really linear direction for him, I think Martine's may be
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Speaker 3: better at improvising when things aren't going quite to plan.
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Speaker 3: Whereas you know, we saw at philip Ylo we had
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Speaker 3: a rained out session, we had a random qualify, we
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Speaker 3: had wildlife running all over the track, all sorts of
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Speaker 3: craziness going on. Pecko didn't have to that particularly well,
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Speaker 3: So a more stable weekend is better for him. You
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Speaker 3: could say, let's.
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Speaker 1: Talk about someone who is known as a wet weather specialist,
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Speaker 1: and I know that he doesn't like that term, Jack Miller.
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Speaker 1: Exciting to see him closer to the front, and it
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Speaker 1: seems like just because you know, he's been named wet
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Speaker 1: weather specialist because he's one two grand PRIs in the
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Speaker 1: wet it's just nice. I think that the rain makes
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Speaker 1: it a bit more of an even playing field, so
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Speaker 1: we can see Jack ride that bike to its potential
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Speaker 1: and what he's able to do in those conditions, level
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Speaker 1: up closer to those U caddies.
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Speaker 2: Shame he couldn't put it on the podium.
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Speaker 1: For so long at the end and those laps, I'm
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Speaker 1: going come on, just a whole off, Pedio Costa.
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Speaker 2: You can do this like finish the year off strong
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Speaker 2: but exciting to see a top five result for.
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Speaker 3: Jack fantastic considering where he started. I mean, he's fifteenth
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Speaker 3: on the grid and he's one of those riders that
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Speaker 3: if it's fully dry or fully wet, I don't think
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Speaker 3: that plays into his sweet spot when is that sketchy
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Speaker 3: half and half in a situation like that, when he
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Speaker 3: can be at the front, we know that Mark Marquez
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Speaker 3: is probably the best in those really transitional conditions. Jack's
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Speaker 3: built brilliant at finding where the grip is, where it's
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Speaker 3: either not quite wet or not quite dry. When it's
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Speaker 3: fully wet, he was able to get up to the front.
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Speaker 3: He's got this fantastic feel for the conditions. But as
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Speaker 3: the race wound down, he said afterwards that he used
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Speaker 3: so much tire to get through from fifteenth to third
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Speaker 3: that he ran in third for ten laps there and
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Speaker 3: the race was literally two laps too long because he
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Speaker 3: just had nothing left with which to fight, but he
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Speaker 3: certainly put up a pretty stern defense. There are a
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Speaker 3: few passes and repasses in that stow she had with
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Speaker 3: the cost of that, I think both of them thoroughly enjoy.
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Speaker 3: But there was a lot of sharp intakes of breath
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Speaker 3: from where I was watching it, because that was pretty
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Speaker 3: close with those two. But just a really good sunday
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Speaker 3: for Jack after the rest of the weekend hadn't been
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Speaker 3: so great. He's so good in conditions like that, but
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Speaker 3: in some respects he could have probably done with its
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Speaker 3: stopping raining about ten laps from the end, and then
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Speaker 3: it's like, well, how much grip is there? It's so
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Speaker 3: hot entire land. Does the track dry out? Does it not?
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Speaker 3: But all in all, for him to finish fifth, that's
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Speaker 3: equal to his best result this year in Portugal, which
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Speaker 3: is so long ago that we almost forget it was
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Speaker 3: back in round two. Nice to see him back up
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Speaker 3: the front again. But you saw his face afterwards. It's like, ah,
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Speaker 3: if I was ever going to get a podium in
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Speaker 3: this last season with KTM, that might have been it.
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Speaker 3: So you know, a tinge of disappointment. I'm sure, but
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Speaker 3: I'm sure he appreciated running up the front in a
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Speaker 3: race where plenty of people made mistakes. He didn't make
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Speaker 3: mistakes and had a very good weekend.
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Speaker 1: I think what I like to see at the end
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Speaker 1: of this race is we knew.
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Speaker 2: Pego was out the front, We knew what was happening there.
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Speaker 1: It was nice to see that there was some battles
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Speaker 1: being shown on the coverage because it made the race exciting, right,
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Speaker 1: we obviously miss a lot of what happens further down
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Speaker 1: the field. And let's talk about Frankie Morbidelli and Fabio Corderro,
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Speaker 1: because there's.
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Speaker 2: Been a lot of talk on.
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Speaker 1: Socials and articles and coverage on their thoughts on this.
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Speaker 1: Because Fabia called the move that Frankie Morbidelli did a
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Speaker 1: suicide attack. Now I feel like that's quite a bold
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Speaker 1: statement to make. And obviously he took Fabria out of
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Speaker 1: the race. Frankie knocked Fabya out of the race, so
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Speaker 1: we know that, Like there's anger and stuff there. But
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Speaker 1: what is going on with these moves and these writers
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Speaker 1: where it just seems like Marquez the same thing with
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Speaker 1: Juan Mire.
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Speaker 2: They're pushing so hard it's like they're not even I.
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Speaker 1: Don't know thinking about the repercussions or what could happen
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Speaker 1: from it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Morbidelli cottro one former teammates, but not best mates,
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Speaker 3: you could say that. I think where Fabia was so
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Speaker 3: frustrated was that he was up in the top five
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Speaker 3: four on that first lap, just unbelievable start after he'd
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Speaker 3: had a very very good Q two. And let's face it,
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Speaker 3: Frankie Morbidelli is somewhat of a magnet for these sorts
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Speaker 3: of things. He has priors, as they would say, and
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Speaker 3: I think that stemp that was a lot of Quatrero's frustration.
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Speaker 3: It's like, this is a guy who's renowned for doing
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Speaker 3: stuff like this and obviously lost a really good position.
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Speaker 3: Now obviously a lot of race to go. Who knows
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Speaker 3: if Fabio can stay there. But when you're in a
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Speaker 3: Yabahar and you're up at the top six, it's a
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Speaker 3: pretty special day because it doesn't that very often, and so
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Speaker 3: I think that was partly the frustration there, and also
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Speaker 3: because it's not Frankie's first rodeo, is it. But the
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Speaker 3: Marquees Mere one again four be teammates and not best
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Speaker 3: mates as I said before, but I think the Marques
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Speaker 3: Mere one towards the end of the race a Marques
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Speaker 3: didn't really have a rare break on that bike after
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Speaker 3: he crashed it and then picked it up. And we've
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Speaker 3: seen this with Mark before that when he does get
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Speaker 3: shuffled through to the back of the pack because he's
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Speaker 3: made a mistake or he's run wide, or he's crashed,
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Speaker 3: it's like the red mist descends, and if you're in
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Speaker 3: his way, you best get out of it because he
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Speaker 3: is coming through no matter what. And obviously the ultimate
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Speaker 3: example of this is Spade twenty twenty when he broke
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Speaker 3: his arm because he was coming through from the back
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Speaker 3: and making everyone look lower riding bicycles not motor GP bikes.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, look, the red myst does descend a little bit,
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Speaker 3: but I don't know if you caught onto this Roneta.
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Speaker 3: So he got a drop one place penalty for the
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Speaker 3: incident with Chuan Mir So Mark, knowing how to game
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Speaker 3: the system as best as he can, he then went
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Speaker 3: and overtook Taka Nakagami he was ahead of him, dropped
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Speaker 3: back behind Nakagami, therefore relinquishing one position, and then immediately
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Speaker 3: went straight back past him again, so it's like, well,
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Speaker 3: I serve him a penalty. So at the end of
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Speaker 3: the race, he kept flicking on the timing monitor from
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Speaker 3: eleventh to twelfth, to eleventh to twelfth and then finally
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Speaker 3: settled at eleventh because the rules state that you have
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Speaker 3: to drop one position. The rules don't state that you
14:51
Speaker 3: have to drop one position to the guy that you
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Speaker 3: sent into the next suburb with your passing at tipped
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Speaker 3: out at third to three. So Mark, Big Mark, he
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Speaker 3: knows where to work the boundaries. So the rules they
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Speaker 3: dropped one position, he's I dropped one position for one
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Speaker 3: quarter and then I blitzed back past Nakagabi again and
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Speaker 3: got my five points for finishing eleventh. So I reckon,
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Speaker 3: that's a loophole and the rules that needs to be
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Speaker 3: looked at to be perfectly honest, because it's kind of
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Speaker 3: unrealistic for Mark in that situation to drop all the
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Speaker 3: way back behind Juan Miir to eventually catch up to
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Speaker 3: him and go past him because for all we know,
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Speaker 3: Mia could have been picking his bike up out of
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Speaker 3: the gravel. So you've got Mark pulled over on the
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Speaker 3: side of the road waiting for a repsole hon that
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Speaker 3: to come past so he can overtake him again. So
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that's realistic either. Maybe there needs to
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Speaker 3: be some sort of middle ground in that situation. It's like, well,
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Speaker 3: maybe you should just have to do a long lap
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Speaker 3: or something. But yeah, he certainly had to game the system,
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Speaker 3: and at the end of the day the rule makers
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Speaker 3: rulemakers can say, well, I don't like what you did,
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Speaker 3: but you followed the letter of the law, so well done.
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Speaker 3: We might need to adjust that one.
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Speaker 2: Well did you see on socials as well, Matt?
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Speaker 1: They showed clips of Mark Mark has with his the leathers,
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Speaker 1: the little strap that covers the zip undone, and there's
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Speaker 1: people saying, well that sh have been panalized and whatnot.
16:03
Speaker 1: There's so many fine lines that it's hard to know
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Speaker 1: where it ends where it starts. I'm hoping that next year,
16:09
Speaker 1: with Slimon Crafer kind of stepping in, we get a
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Speaker 1: bit more clarification on things.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, where That one was weird too, because the
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Speaker 3: air bag had gone off in Mark's leathers when he crashed,
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Speaker 3: and then apparently when he picked the bike back up,
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Speaker 3: because these things are not light, as you know, when
16:24
Speaker 3: he picked the bike back up, it started to pull,
16:27
Speaker 3: and I'm doing a visual demonstration, which I realized is
16:29
Speaker 3: useless on a podcast. But as he picked the bike up,
16:33
Speaker 3: the zip started to come down because the air bag
16:35
Speaker 3: had been inflated inside the suit. So once those zips
16:37
Speaker 3: get loosened the first time you pop up out from
16:40
Speaker 3: behind the bubble and break with all the forces coming
16:43
Speaker 3: through the front of the bike. Of course, once the
16:45
Speaker 3: zip is slightly undone, it's going to keep coming undone.
16:48
Speaker 3: I kept thinking back to that, and I'm trying to
16:50
Speaker 3: remember the year here. It was at twenty one, the
16:52
Speaker 3: year with Quatarero at Catalunya, where his suit was basically
16:57
Speaker 3: three quarters of the way undone. There's chest protectors flying
16:59
Speaker 3: around because it's Fabio, who never wears a shirt anyway,
17:02
Speaker 3: it was kind of not that unusual, but it wasn't
17:04
Speaker 3: quite as bad as that. But I did have memories
17:06
Speaker 3: of that, and quae Roh did take a penalty that
17:08
Speaker 3: day as well, so there was a big going on
17:11
Speaker 3: in the back end of that race, as there usually
17:13
Speaker 3: is with Mark Marquez, but that was one that seemed
17:15
Speaker 3: to slip through, and look, it didn't change anyone's world
17:18
Speaker 3: that he finished eleventh, I guess, but yeah, there were
17:20
Speaker 3: a few things going on for him at the end
17:22
Speaker 3: of that race.
17:22
Speaker 1: There was a lot going on for Mark this weekend.
17:26
Speaker 1: But let's touch on Joge Martin. We spoke about Pecko
17:29
Speaker 1: for me this weekend. He was so aggressive from the
17:33
Speaker 1: get go, from the line into that turn one.
17:35
Speaker 2: Thinking back to that sprint.
17:36
Speaker 1: Where he pushed himself and peco wide, you can just
17:39
Speaker 1: tell that he was doing whatever he could to get
17:42
Speaker 1: out there first and control the race.
17:45
Speaker 3: It's interesting in the last year. I think this is
17:49
Speaker 3: where he's been a beneficiary of being in a title
17:52
Speaker 3: fight now because I think last year he wasn't riding
17:55
Speaker 3: like he instinctively rides towards the end of the season
17:57
Speaker 3: because he was trailing Banyaia and he was writing to
18:00
Speaker 3: not make mistakes, and an aggressive Joey Martin is an
18:05
Speaker 3: effective Joge Martin. This is how he got the lead
18:08
Speaker 3: in the first place. And he kind of said this
18:10
Speaker 3: on Sunday, he said, I need to continue to be aggressive.
18:14
Speaker 3: I need to continue to be myself because that's what
18:17
Speaker 3: got me here. And I understand that after having gone
18:20
Speaker 3: through it. Tried it the other way last year, it
18:22
Speaker 3: didn't work. But what's so interesting with him this year
18:25
Speaker 3: is you mentioned the aggression and you know, particularly the sprint,
18:27
Speaker 3: it's like I am coming through, you can decide whether
18:29
Speaker 3: to have the accident with me or not. I thought
18:32
Speaker 3: that was pretty telling and that he's clearly marked out
18:34
Speaker 3: his store now he's going to be super aggressive. But
18:37
Speaker 3: you've got this crazy consistency with him now. And so
18:41
Speaker 3: he finished second in the sprint, and he finished second
18:43
Speaker 3: in the Grand Prix. That's fifteen second place finishes this year.
18:47
Speaker 3: So he said, twenty eight podiums in thirty six starts.
18:50
Speaker 3: Fifteen of those twenty eight podiums have been second. And
18:54
Speaker 3: so for me, that's the evolution of Martine in that Yeah,
18:56
Speaker 3: he's still the super fast guy over one lap. He's
18:59
Speaker 3: the guy you'd predict poll but pretty much anywhere, and
19:02
Speaker 3: he's got that intent at the first lap of races.
19:05
Speaker 3: But there's also a bit of a wiser Martine. Now
19:08
Speaker 3: it's like, if I can't win, I'm going to do
19:11
Speaker 3: the next best thing. And you look at the number
19:13
Speaker 3: of wins that each rider has got over the course
19:15
Speaker 3: of the season. Vanyay has won nine races nine Grand
19:18
Speaker 3: Prix this year, more than he's ever won in a
19:21
Speaker 3: single season, and yet he still trails in the championship
19:23
Speaker 3: because when Martin can't win, he's right there. And if
19:27
Speaker 3: he wins this championship, ironically, for a guy who's probably
19:29
Speaker 3: the fastest one lap rider in Motor GP, if he
19:32
Speaker 3: wins this championship, it's not going to be because he's
19:34
Speaker 3: quicker than Peco Vannoan races, because he hasn't been. It's
19:37
Speaker 3: going to be because he's more consistent and he's made
19:40
Speaker 3: fewer mistakes. So he's got to tread that tightrope now
19:44
Speaker 3: of Thailand was different, right, because he couldn't seal the
19:48
Speaker 3: championship in Thailand, he can seal the championship this weekend
19:51
Speaker 3: in Malaysia. I think it's unlikely, but it's possible. How's
19:55
Speaker 3: that going to change the approach? Because there's two schools
19:58
Speaker 3: of thought here, Right, you can go even more aggressive
20:01
Speaker 3: because it's like, well, if I make a mistake here,
20:03
Speaker 3: it's not going to cost me the title. I can
20:05
Speaker 3: absolutely go for it. I've got two match points here,
20:08
Speaker 3: Let's have a massive swing at the first one and
20:10
Speaker 3: see what happens. But then if it comes down to
20:13
Speaker 3: the last race and that GAP's a little bit smaller.
20:17
Speaker 3: Then how do you stay true to yourself and be
20:20
Speaker 3: aggressive balancing that with but I don't have any room
20:23
Speaker 3: to maneuver now. So psychologically these next three weeks are
20:27
Speaker 3: so interesting for him because Banya I can say, well,
20:30
Speaker 3: I know how to win World Championships. I've done it
20:32
Speaker 3: twice already. One year I was chasing Quatrero down. The
20:35
Speaker 3: other year I had the advantage. Martine probably thinks he's
20:39
Speaker 3: got the speed to do it, and he's certainly got
20:40
Speaker 3: the points advantage. But until you've done it, it's not real, right,
20:45
Speaker 3: And so can you back yourself and stay true to
20:47
Speaker 3: your instincts when there's that much on the line. I
20:50
Speaker 3: think this weekend you'll be mega aggressive. A'ts the paying
20:52
Speaker 3: again because you get two swings at this If it
20:55
Speaker 3: comes down to the last round. Oh boy. Psychologically, I've
20:59
Speaker 3: got no doubt the guy's fast enough to win a
21:01
Speaker 3: World championship. But what's going through his head that's going
21:04
Speaker 3: to be the super interesting bit.
21:06
Speaker 1: And then just thinking about about what we were talking
21:08
Speaker 1: about Peco earlier and how he doesn't like where there's
21:12
Speaker 1: variables in a race we can We're in Malaysia, we're
21:14
Speaker 1: in Asia where there can be storms and whatnot in
21:17
Speaker 1: the afternoon it's hot. Valencia, I feel like is more
21:20
Speaker 1: of a circuit that suits Peco's style because he generally
21:23
Speaker 1: knows what he's going to get there. Malaysia we don't know.
21:26
Speaker 1: So this is where I feel like Joge could be
21:28
Speaker 1: a lot.
21:28
Speaker 2: Stronger this weekend than Peco.
21:31
Speaker 3: Well, and also because he's got less to lose, you know,
21:32
Speaker 3: bang your eyes on the tightrope now in that Yeah,
21:35
Speaker 3: he's seventeen points behind, so it's going to take a
21:37
Speaker 3: lot for Martin to win the title this weekend, but
21:39
Speaker 3: he mathematically can do it, where Peco has to force
21:42
Speaker 3: it to a fine round. And so yeah, I mean
21:45
Speaker 3: you don't need to watch if you go to Kuala Lumpu,
21:47
Speaker 3: you can just sort of look up at the sky
21:48
Speaker 3: and see the sky's darkening. Oh it's about four o'clock
21:50
Speaker 3: he comes to Thunderstork. It's the way it works up there.
21:54
Speaker 3: So yeah, like I mean, it's there's so much of
21:58
Speaker 3: this is going to be played between in the years
22:00
Speaker 3: of these two riders, as much as there is between
22:02
Speaker 3: the lines of the racetrack, because I think each of
22:05
Speaker 3: them have different strengths. That's what makes this so interesting. Yeah,
22:07
Speaker 3: they're on the same bike, but they approach it from
22:10
Speaker 3: such different angles, And it's who can be truest to
22:14
Speaker 3: themselves over the course of the next two weekends, but
22:17
Speaker 3: who's the person that can adapt to a changing situation?
22:20
Speaker 3: And I still I know about you. I still feel
22:23
Speaker 3: this is a championship that Martin is going to win
22:27
Speaker 3: or lose more than Peco wins. And I know that
22:29
Speaker 3: sounds like semantics, but don't you agree. I think there's
22:31
Speaker 3: a psychological element to the whole Joge Martin experience where
22:35
Speaker 3: we might look back at this championship and say, how
22:38
Speaker 3: did this guy lose this? If he doesn't win it?
22:41
Speaker 3: Whereas you know Banyai, I think there's less variability in
22:45
Speaker 3: the way Banyai operates. Martin can go out and win
22:48
Speaker 3: this thing, but equally he could also throw at the bin.
22:50
Speaker 3: And I think that's what's going to be so interesting
22:51
Speaker 3: about these next two weeks.
22:53
Speaker 1: But also is this Juai Martin's last chance at a
22:57
Speaker 1: World Championships title fight for a couple of years. We
23:01
Speaker 1: don't know how that progress with a Prillia is going
23:03
Speaker 1: to be right, but he is going to a Prillier.
23:05
Speaker 2: He's not sticking on a Ducatti who has just one
23:07
Speaker 2: the last multiple years.
23:09
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a lot more weighing on his shoulders
23:11
Speaker 1: with that, as he could be going to a bike
23:13
Speaker 1: where he is inconsistently up the front in the following seasons.
23:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely right. I mean this might not be his
23:19
Speaker 3: best chance, it might be his last, and you don't
23:21
Speaker 3: want to be super peessivistic for a Prillier. But we
23:23
Speaker 3: don't get a rule change in Motor GP until twenty
23:26
Speaker 3: twenty seven. So given the advantage that Ducati has over
23:30
Speaker 3: everybody else, who's to say that they won't retain that
23:34
Speaker 3: advantage or similar for the next couple of seasons. And
23:36
Speaker 3: Martine's off to a Prillier now, for all his talent
23:39
Speaker 3: and the goodwill in the world, we know where a
23:41
Speaker 3: Prillier are at the moment. On a good day, they're
23:43
Speaker 3: fighting for a top six in a Grand Prix. Now,
23:45
Speaker 3: I think Martine's a considerable step above Averrikvidyalez and Alaisha
23:48
Speaker 3: Spago and the track house guys when they're not injured
23:51
Speaker 3: or falling off. So yeah, he'll drag a Prillier closer
23:55
Speaker 3: to the front. But there's very different than building a
23:58
Speaker 3: championship campaign where you ending ninety percent of it on
24:01
Speaker 3: the podium because you're on an awesome bike doing a
24:03
Speaker 3: fantastic job with it. So that's another one of these
24:06
Speaker 3: little subplots that I was talking about before, in that
24:08
Speaker 3: you know, this might be his best chance, but also
24:11
Speaker 3: in the foreseeable future might be his last chance. And
24:13
Speaker 3: that's just another thing to add to this mix that
24:17
Speaker 3: I don't about you. I can't wait for these last
24:18
Speaker 3: two races because we're going to learn so much about
24:21
Speaker 3: each of these guys. I don't think we're going to
24:23
Speaker 3: learn whether they can ride motorcycles well or not, because
24:26
Speaker 3: the standard is so high with these guys. And Banyai
24:29
Speaker 3: said this on Sunday, like the ability to get the
24:33
Speaker 3: performances out of this amazing bike at this level has
24:36
Speaker 3: been brilliant the entire season. But psychologically this becomes super
24:41
Speaker 3: interesting from here. And when you've got someone as mischievous
24:44
Speaker 3: as Mark Market is sticking his nose into proceedings as well,
24:46
Speaker 3: it just makes it even more interesting, doesn't it.
24:49
Speaker 1: Talking about mischievous little rascals, Let's talk about patri or Corossa.
24:54
Speaker 2: That's a good little segue into.
24:55
Speaker 3: That fantastic segue.
24:57
Speaker 1: I think that this weekend was awesome to see Costa
25:00
Speaker 1: winning in the wet And there was a big deal
25:02
Speaker 1: made on online about how Mark Marquees was sorry he
25:06
Speaker 1: didn't win on the wet he was on the podium
25:07
Speaker 1: third place, but how Mark Marquees was on the podium
25:10
Speaker 1: in the wet in his rookie year as well. And
25:12
Speaker 1: this is the question I want to post to you now, Matt.
25:14
Speaker 1: Do you think Pedro LaCosta still has that chance to
25:18
Speaker 1: win a race in his rookie year or is it
25:20
Speaker 1: purely this is just a Peco and Mark Joe Martin
25:24
Speaker 1: or Mark Marquez situation.
25:25
Speaker 3: Where yeah, yeah, it's hard, isn't it. I mean, I
25:28
Speaker 3: think it's the latter. I'd I'd be shocked if a
25:31
Speaker 3: katm was able to win these last couple of races.
25:33
Speaker 3: But I don't think that's a blight necessarily on a Costa,
25:37
Speaker 3: because we've seen what he's done as a rookie. You know,
25:40
Speaker 3: this guy's so good that we do sometimes forget that
25:42
Speaker 3: he is twenty years old. He's got so little running
25:45
Speaker 3: in wet conditions, and you know, he just come off
25:48
Speaker 3: Japan where he had two DNFs and then Australia where
25:51
Speaker 3: he crashed in his sprint and we talked about how
25:54
Speaker 3: awful that shoulder is injury was Phoebe Philip either than
25:57
Speaker 3: I'm rubbing my shoulders thinking about it because it's making
25:59
Speaker 3: mind sore thinking about it. He comes out after not
26:02
Speaker 3: such great qualifying and gets on the podium and he's
26:06
Speaker 3: first wet motor GP Grand Prix race, like unbelievable and
26:09
Speaker 3: also not surprising because we know how good this kid is.
26:12
Speaker 3: But Jizy handled it well. But in terms of your question, look,
26:17
Speaker 3: there'd have to be some super craziness with like a
26:20
Speaker 3: guy taking each other out at the front tour, just
26:22
Speaker 3: like the mother of all thunderstorms at Malaysia, which is possible.
26:25
Speaker 3: But I find it hard to think he could win
26:27
Speaker 3: a race as a rookie. But I don't think that's
26:29
Speaker 3: any blight necessarily on how good he's been this year,
26:32
Speaker 3: because he's probably going to finish as the best non
26:34
Speaker 3: decatty rider in a championship, him or Brad Binder. In
26:38
Speaker 3: a season where Dukatti has won every race but one,
26:41
Speaker 3: it's been a phenomenal rookie season. I love the fact
26:44
Speaker 3: that he handled the conditions so well, and there's a
26:46
Speaker 3: fair bit of grit in there as well, because you know,
26:49
Speaker 3: it was eight days before that Grand Prix that he
26:51
Speaker 3: really hurt himself at Philip Island and he's back on
26:54
Speaker 3: a circuit he's not ridden a Motor GP bike on
26:57
Speaker 3: on a bike that's not really a front running bike,
26:59
Speaker 3: and then char un through and won a podium in
27:01
Speaker 3: those last couple of laps. I mean, it's been one
27:03
Speaker 3: of the better rookie seasons we've seen for a while,
27:05
Speaker 3: and that was just another feather in his cap.
27:07
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I agree with you.
27:09
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see him next year, where I feel
27:11
Speaker 1: like he's got that year under his belt and he's
27:13
Speaker 1: going to be a comfortably he's on. He's the factory rider,
27:16
Speaker 1: working alongside the factory, understanding the bike, developing that a
27:19
Speaker 1: lot more. I think next year is going to be
27:21
Speaker 1: that pieced of resistance on his stepping stone into Moto GP.
27:25
Speaker 1: But before we move on to our Malaysia preview, we
27:29
Speaker 1: have to talk about the lower categories.
27:31
Speaker 2: N Less obviously talk about Moto two.
27:33
Speaker 1: Iagua finally wrapped up that Moto two championship and in
27:38
Speaker 1: my opinion well deserved. We're talking about consistency earlier with
27:41
Speaker 1: Johe Martin. I feel like I is also just consistency
27:44
Speaker 1: is king every weekend he is there or thereabouts right.
27:48
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Massive props to to Burner GPS social media.
27:51
Speaker 3: I came, I saw I conquered, very good, very impressed
27:56
Speaker 3: with that on Sunday. But that look, he's been just
27:59
Speaker 3: so he's always there and I don't know if he's
28:02
Speaker 3: the outright fastest guy I Motor two and he's led
28:05
Speaker 3: a very limited number of laps for guards White a
28:07
Speaker 3: World championship. But that was a series this year. That
28:10
Speaker 3: was a category this year where it was crying out
28:12
Speaker 3: for an adult in the room to step up and
28:14
Speaker 3: actually take control of it, because you'd have guys winning
28:16
Speaker 3: races and then you wouldn't see them for three weeks,
28:18
Speaker 3: and you know, there was a points like, oh, geez,
28:20
Speaker 3: Jake Dixon's going. Well, then you go, oh, Jake Dixon
28:22
Speaker 3: hasn't scored for five straight weekends. And it was one
28:25
Speaker 3: of those really weird seasons where Agura was the constant.
28:29
Speaker 3: Other guys would come in star for a couple of races, disappear,
28:32
Speaker 3: someone else will come in do the same thing. He
28:34
Speaker 3: was always there and it's a really methodical way of
28:39
Speaker 3: working that He's going to a factory that is going
28:42
Speaker 3: to need some calm heads, because that's a really interesting
28:46
Speaker 3: and prilier lineup next year where you've got Martine Betzekia,
28:48
Speaker 3: ral Fernandez with Agura, so a lot of unproven guys,
28:52
Speaker 3: a lot of guys who don't know that machinery. I
28:54
Speaker 3: think he's going to be a pretty solid motor GP
28:57
Speaker 3: rider because I think he's going to be he's fast
28:59
Speaker 3: enough to bet, but I think he's methodical enough to
29:02
Speaker 3: maybe not get spooked early on in his career. It's like,
29:05
Speaker 3: oh boy, then a bit off the back here. He'll
29:08
Speaker 3: be a guy that the difference between March next year
29:10
Speaker 3: and November you'll see a really distinct curve with him.
29:14
Speaker 3: He strikes me as a guy who might be a
29:15
Speaker 3: bit slow to the boil, but I think he's going
29:17
Speaker 3: to be pretty effective as a motor GP rider because
29:19
Speaker 3: he methodically works his way through situations. And I mean
29:23
Speaker 3: even that race on Sunday at Breram was much the
29:26
Speaker 3: same thing. He got to the position he needed to
29:28
Speaker 3: get to. He doesn't beat himself and he just methodically
29:31
Speaker 3: goes about his business so very well deserved title, And
29:35
Speaker 3: isn't it funny, like, of all the categories this year,
29:37
Speaker 3: it's Motor GP the one that is undecided where we've
29:40
Speaker 3: had this super predictable year, whereas Tocati's winning everything, but
29:43
Speaker 3: we still don't have a champion yet. Yeah, in the
29:45
Speaker 3: other two categories we have world champions. And I don't
29:48
Speaker 3: know whether this is on your run sheet, but I
29:50
Speaker 3: just want to slightly go off tangent here and talk
29:52
Speaker 3: about other categories because David Alonso I think we've got
29:55
Speaker 3: to talk about that, because he won his twelfth race
29:58
Speaker 3: for the season in Time Island and broke that absolutely
30:02
Speaker 3: crazy Valentino Rossi record that's been going since nineteen ninety seven.
30:06
Speaker 3: Anytime you're breaking Valentino Rossi records when you're eighteen years
30:09
Speaker 3: old at Boatsworld, is that well?
30:13
Speaker 1: Hashtag baby goat is what is trending from Donner and
30:17
Speaker 1: Moto GP, And as weird as it sounds, it is
30:21
Speaker 1: so accurate because I think we're witnessing greatness in someone
30:24
Speaker 1: and it's so easy to just jump on that Highe
30:26
Speaker 1: train when you see someone who's dominated all year and
30:29
Speaker 1: who knows he might go to Moto two and be nowhere,
30:31
Speaker 1: But I just have a feeling he's the Pedrocossa, He's
30:34
Speaker 1: the Mark muk As, he is a Valentino Rossi. He's
30:36
Speaker 1: this talent that just seems to handle situations really well
30:41
Speaker 1: for someone who's so young. So watching his journey this
30:44
Speaker 1: year incredible.
30:46
Speaker 2: You see why he is world champion because those proto
30:48
Speaker 2: three races.
30:49
Speaker 1: We talk about it all the time, how it is
30:51
Speaker 1: some of the best racings. Those guys are going at
30:54
Speaker 1: it for the entire race, non stop, the battles, the passes,
30:58
Speaker 1: same thing, consistency. He has been there or there about
31:01
Speaker 1: all year and handled everything with grace.
31:05
Speaker 3: My unintentional comedy moment of the entire weekend. I'm not
31:08
Speaker 3: sure if you caught this. So it's Moto three qualifying
31:11
Speaker 3: and everyone's waiting for him to go out to do
31:14
Speaker 3: his lap in Q two because they all got to
31:15
Speaker 3: follow him. So he pulled out of the pit box
31:18
Speaker 3: and saw there were literally twelve guys looking at him
31:21
Speaker 3: waiting to go out to get a toe. So he
31:23
Speaker 3: sat there and sat there because he had a decent
31:24
Speaker 3: grid position, and then deliberately went out to do the
31:28
Speaker 3: outlap before the final lap, knowing that the checkered flag
31:31
Speaker 3: was going to fall before anyone started their final lap.
31:33
Speaker 3: So it's like, cool, you could all sit behind me
31:35
Speaker 3: and I'll tell you around, and none of you get
31:37
Speaker 3: to do a lap at the end because the checkered
31:38
Speaker 3: flag's already fallen. And I love the fact that he's
31:42
Speaker 3: recognized it and gone, all right, then you guys can
31:44
Speaker 3: have some of this, And so we ended up with
31:46
Speaker 3: Joel Kelso and Pole, which is awesome for Australia. But
31:48
Speaker 3: there were ten guys who never got a lap in
31:50
Speaker 3: at the end of Q two and then all looked
31:52
Speaker 3: at each other and gesticulated and waved at each other,
31:55
Speaker 3: and Alonso's just grinning under his helmet, saying, well, that'll
31:57
Speaker 3: teach you to sit in the pits and wait for
31:59
Speaker 3: me next time. But it was really, really funny. No,
32:02
Speaker 3: he knew exactly what he was doing, and none of
32:04
Speaker 3: the others cotton onto it. It was too late, So
32:06
Speaker 3: I enjoyed that it was good fun.
32:08
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, and this might be like
32:11
Speaker 1: a controversial opinion. I freaking hate when they do the
32:15
Speaker 1: towing in the RBS and they will sit behind each
32:18
Speaker 1: other and It's like, isn't I get why they do it,
32:22
Speaker 1: but why would you not just go out and do
32:24
Speaker 1: a lap with a clean track in front of you
32:26
Speaker 1: where there's no qualms or anything that could possibly hinder
32:30
Speaker 1: it apart from someone crashing further up.
32:32
Speaker 2: That's out of your control.
32:33
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it looks optically it's ridiculous. So you see
32:36
Speaker 3: guys sitting there, it's like, well, you are we motorcycle
32:39
Speaker 3: racist here or are we just know what are we doing?
32:40
Speaker 3: Playing follow the leader? I hate that the safety aspect
32:43
Speaker 3: of guys pulling out on the last sector and basically
32:46
Speaker 3: at walking pace while they wait for the fast guy
32:49
Speaker 3: to go through. There should just be far strict penalties
32:52
Speaker 3: with that sort of thing because A it's dangerous. B.
32:56
Speaker 3: I think it sets a really bad precedent for lower
32:58
Speaker 3: category series because this is the World Championship, right. If
33:01
Speaker 3: you allow this sort of stuff in the World Championship,
33:03
Speaker 3: then what a feeder series in other countries supposed to do.
33:05
Speaker 3: You're setting a terrible example for kids coming through. It's like, oh,
33:08
Speaker 3: so this is how you qualify. It's like, no, this
33:11
Speaker 3: is how you get hurt. So there's an element to
33:14
Speaker 3: that that I can't stand and it also just looks
33:16
Speaker 3: a bit crap. Let's be perfectly honest, like, go out
33:18
Speaker 3: do the lap, and I did kind of like that.
33:20
Speaker 3: Alonso was kind of subtly baking a point here. It's like, well,
33:23
Speaker 3: if you'd like to go and ruin your own qualify,
33:25
Speaker 3: because then be my guest, I'm not going anywhere. It
33:28
Speaker 3: was kind of fun, it.
33:29
Speaker 1: Was exciting, but yeah, let's look about a positive note.
33:32
Speaker 1: You mentioned David Alonzo with his records that he's broke.
33:35
Speaker 1: I grew back to that he's the first Asia Talent
33:38
Speaker 1: Cup writer to win a championship and the first Japanese
33:41
Speaker 1: writer since Iyama.
33:44
Speaker 2: And I can't remember the year. I want to say
33:45
Speaker 2: two thousand and No, was.
33:48
Speaker 3: It two nine, two thousand and nine in the two
33:51
Speaker 3: fifty c C category, but when that was still a thing.
33:54
Speaker 3: But I love the Asian Talent Cup thing because it's
33:58
Speaker 3: another pathway to world championship that doesn't involve Italy or Spain.
34:02
Speaker 3: And I think that's really important to show that if
34:06
Speaker 3: you have the talent and the backing and you can
34:08
Speaker 3: get yourself in the right series, you can be a
34:10
Speaker 3: world champion from anywhere, because that's what this is supposed
34:13
Speaker 3: to be is a World Championship, and you know, great,
34:16
Speaker 3: if the Spanish and the Italian riders are the best
34:18
Speaker 3: in the class, then fine, but it's also good to
34:20
Speaker 3: have another sort of portal to get through to the
34:22
Speaker 3: World Championship and be successful. So big tick for that series.
34:26
Speaker 3: And like I said, I think he's going to surprise
34:27
Speaker 3: a few people next year because you know, might not
34:30
Speaker 3: have the stariest CV going around, and you know, he's
34:33
Speaker 3: not exactly a media darling. His English is still a
34:35
Speaker 3: bit spotty, and he's a bit more sort of shy
34:37
Speaker 3: and not super confident with it like a lot of
34:39
Speaker 3: the Japanese can be. But I think he's going to
34:41
Speaker 3: be pretty decent in Motor GP next year.
34:44
Speaker 1: And then speaking about the Asia Talent Cup, obviously a
34:46
Speaker 1: lot of our Ossie riders go through that, which is
34:48
Speaker 1: awesome for us in this part of the world.
34:51
Speaker 2: But job kelso.
34:53
Speaker 1: First Ossie to have a Moto three podium since Jack
34:56
Speaker 1: Miller in over was it like ten years or something.
34:59
Speaker 1: So there's all these records that have been broken by
35:01
Speaker 1: these young guys. It's making it so exciting across the
35:04
Speaker 1: whole Moto GP board, not just in that Premier Class.
35:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agreed. I think Joel was just excitedly
35:10
Speaker 3: fine they got a watch for qualifying on poles, I
35:13
Speaker 3: think he'd bit on the front row like seven times
35:15
Speaker 3: or something, so he kept getting so close. So one
35:17
Speaker 3: of his crew members actually said, finally you got the watch,
35:19
Speaker 3: which is actually quite funny. But look, he we know
35:23
Speaker 3: he's been there and thereabouts the entire season, particularly good
35:26
Speaker 3: in qualifying. It was a bit of a weird race
35:28
Speaker 3: because of the conditions, and obviously finished seventh and in
35:31
Speaker 3: the pack that he was in. But yeah, another good
35:34
Speaker 3: weekend for him. And yeah, finally he can look at
35:36
Speaker 3: his left wrist and tell the time and not have
35:38
Speaker 3: to look at his phone anymore. So that's exciting.
35:40
Speaker 2: That is exciting.
35:41
Speaker 1: And before we move on, I know we've been teasing Malaysia,
35:44
Speaker 1: There's one other thing that we have to talk about, Matt,
35:45
Speaker 1: is that weird pit lean entry crash between Arbilino and
35:50
Speaker 1: vander Gorberg in Moto TiO.
35:53
Speaker 2: What was up with that?
35:54
Speaker 1: Because there was a Marshall running, there was Arbilina trying
35:58
Speaker 1: to pick up his bike like right in the middle.
36:00
Speaker 2: It just it was a mess waiting to happen.
36:03
Speaker 3: Massively so, and it's kind of a function of the
36:06
Speaker 3: pit lane entry. So weird at that track because it
36:09
Speaker 3: basically runs the entire length of that back straight into
36:13
Speaker 3: that last right hander. So and you're not obviously on
36:16
Speaker 3: the speed limit at that point, so as you're coming
36:18
Speaker 3: you can quite easily crash in that pit lane entrance
36:20
Speaker 3: because you're off the circuit but you're not beholden to
36:22
Speaker 3: the pit lane speed limit, and there's a bit of
36:25
Speaker 3: a The problem was that Arbillino crashing his bike and
36:28
Speaker 3: was trying to get a broken bike back to the pits,
36:32
Speaker 3: where he probably should have just got off the thing
36:33
Speaker 3: and come back on the back of a scooter. So
36:35
Speaker 3: that was partly the problem, because you've got marshals on
36:37
Speaker 3: the track and you're on the outside of a fast corner.
36:41
Speaker 3: There's other guys trying to get into pit lane, and
36:43
Speaker 3: it was it just took too long to resolve that situation.
36:47
Speaker 3: You're thinking, geez, I hope they get away with this.
36:49
Speaker 3: I hate seeing marshals on the side of racetracks when
36:52
Speaker 3: they're live, and so, you know, not great for Billino
36:55
Speaker 3: trying to get a broken bike back to the pits.
36:57
Speaker 3: Van and Gilberg. You can sort of see how he's
37:00
Speaker 3: just seen the bike and tried to get it stopped.
37:03
Speaker 3: There's almost like a bit tunnel vision with that. There's
37:05
Speaker 3: a marshal who had to jump out of the way.
37:07
Speaker 3: That could have been so nasty that accident. So they
37:09
Speaker 3: both got penalized for it. But moral of the story,
37:12
Speaker 3: kids is don't try and ride crashed bikes back to
37:14
Speaker 3: the pits. Sister, save that for another day and play
37:16
Speaker 3: the safety card.
37:17
Speaker 2: I think, right, Malaysian Grand Prix. Finally, let's move on
37:21
Speaker 2: to our next race.
37:23
Speaker 1: And so looking at last year, we had Pego Banyaya
37:27
Speaker 1: on pole and our podium was an Abashanini, Alex Marquez
37:32
Speaker 1: and Peco Bangyaya. So no Warhe Martine in that mix.
37:36
Speaker 1: But you wrote an article for Fox sports dot com
37:40
Speaker 1: slash Motorsport, and you were talking about how the seasons
37:43
Speaker 1: have been playing out in previous years. What's your take
37:47
Speaker 1: going into this weekend. I know we've alluded to it
37:49
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I want to hear from you.
37:52
Speaker 3: This is just I knew what I was getting into
37:54
Speaker 3: when I started doing this. I thought to myself, hmm,
37:57
Speaker 3: how many times do we get championships that are still
37:59
Speaker 3: alive with two rounds to go, which is where we
38:01
Speaker 3: are right now, and one thing led to another, and
38:04
Speaker 3: several hours passed and I went down fourteen rabbit holes,
38:07
Speaker 3: and so basically in the last twenty years, I've decided
38:11
Speaker 3: to go back twenty years. Ten of the last twenty
38:13
Speaker 3: years have come down to the last two races, So
38:16
Speaker 3: we've had ten titles decided before the last two races.
38:19
Speaker 3: Of those ten titles that have been alive for the
38:22
Speaker 3: last two races, four of them got decided in the
38:25
Speaker 3: second last round, So six title deciders in the last
38:29
Speaker 3: twenty years. Interestingly, this is the third year in a
38:32
Speaker 3: row that we've come down to potentially having a last
38:35
Speaker 3: round title decider. But the interesting thing for me is
38:37
Speaker 3: that of those six championships that went down to the
38:41
Speaker 3: very very final round, it's the guy that's in the
38:43
Speaker 3: league that's won the championship every time. And there's been
38:46
Speaker 3: some mad ones in there, because there was two thousand
38:50
Speaker 3: and thirteen Marquez's rookie year, which was one of the
38:54
Speaker 3: great title deciders because Jorge Lorenzo needed Marquees to finish
38:58
Speaker 3: fourth and got to the front of the race slowed
39:00
Speaker 3: down so much that the entire pack caught up behind
39:03
Speaker 3: Marquez and started roughing him up, which was just completely
39:06
Speaker 3: bastardrew by Lorenzo. I kind of appreciated. It's like, I'm
39:09
Speaker 3: going to be at the front, but I'm going to
39:10
Speaker 3: be so slow that there's all these other guys that
39:12
Speaker 3: might trip over Marqure. So that was fun when that happened.
39:15
Speaker 3: And then the maddest one of all is a race
39:17
Speaker 3: that your brother was actually in in two thousand and
39:18
Speaker 3: six in Valencia, where the championship lead actually changed hands
39:22
Speaker 3: twice in the last two races. We had that bizarre
39:26
Speaker 3: race in Portugal where a rookie called Danny Pedrosa took
39:29
Speaker 3: Nicki Hayden out of that race in Estuaria when Hayden
39:33
Speaker 3: was leading the championship Valentino Rossi probably thought he was
39:37
Speaker 3: going to win that race and lost by two thousandths
39:39
Speaker 3: of a second on the line to Tony Elias, his
39:42
Speaker 3: only Motor GP win. So Rossi had an eight point
39:45
Speaker 3: lead going into Valencia, took Pole and then fell off
39:48
Speaker 3: in that race at Valencia, pretty much right in front
39:51
Speaker 3: of Cruis actually if I remember rightly. And then Nicky
39:53
Speaker 3: Hayden finished third and won that World Championship. That was
39:56
Speaker 3: absolutely remarkable. So look, the guy who who's led the
40:00
Speaker 3: championship with two rounds to go is generally converted. There's
40:03
Speaker 3: one asterisk to this, and you know where I'm going
40:05
Speaker 3: with this, because it's we love talking about this. We're
40:07
Speaker 3: going to Malaysia. Malaysia twenty and fifteen. Valentino Rossi left
40:12
Speaker 3: that race as the World Championship leader. He also started
40:15
Speaker 3: the FINALI at Valencia at the back of the grid
40:17
Speaker 3: because of a certain incident with Mark Marquez that I'm
40:19
Speaker 3: sure nobody listening to this podcast has any idea what
40:22
Speaker 3: I'm talking about. And of course juhelern Soo wins that race,
40:25
Speaker 3: and the only time he led that championship for the
40:27
Speaker 3: entire year was after the last race in twenty fifteen,
40:30
Speaker 3: so that's the only one that's come down to the
40:33
Speaker 3: wire where the leads actually changed hands in the last round.
40:36
Speaker 3: So I thoroughly enjoyed going down a nice YouTube rabbit
40:40
Speaker 3: hole and reminding himself, oh yeah, that happened. That was fun.
40:43
Speaker 3: I didn't need to watch Malaysia twenty fifteen again. I
40:45
Speaker 3: think it's burnt into my brain somewhere. But the point
40:49
Speaker 3: being that Martine historically should convert from here because he's
40:54
Speaker 3: the guy that's got the high ground with two rounds
40:55
Speaker 3: to go, because history tells us, if you've got the
40:58
Speaker 3: lead with two rounds to go, you're going to win,
41:00
Speaker 3: with the exception of Malaysia twenty fifty, the exception of
41:02
Speaker 3: all exceptions. So I'm sure not that we need any
41:06
Speaker 3: not that we need any invitation to talk about Malaysia
41:08
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, but it might even get more of an
41:10
Speaker 3: airing this weekend than it normally does. So I'm sure
41:13
Speaker 3: downa are rubbing their hands together for the social media content.
41:17
Speaker 1: Well, let's just kind of keep going down that rabbit hole.
41:20
Speaker 1: Bit off to a side a little bit. Andrea in
41:23
Speaker 1: the Eanni his name, because there.
41:26
Speaker 3: Is the thought it's been so long, it's.
41:29
Speaker 2: Been so long.
41:29
Speaker 1: But also, how does he come back into Moto GP
41:33
Speaker 1: article you wrote all because he got a phone call
41:35
Speaker 1: from his old mate Valentino Rossi.
41:38
Speaker 3: It is bizarre, isn't it. So Look, we knew that
41:40
Speaker 3: VR forty six we're going to need a replacement rider
41:42
Speaker 3: because Fabio digit Antonio was going to opt out and
41:45
Speaker 3: have his shoulder surgery ahead of next year. Big shout
41:48
Speaker 3: to Digya by the way, fourth place at his last
41:50
Speaker 3: two races before he goes for a shoulder operation with
41:52
Speaker 3: Australia and Thailand. So awesome. Finished to a really good
41:55
Speaker 3: season for him, and he's a guy that I'd be
41:58
Speaker 3: putting some money on to feature very highly next years
42:00
Speaker 3: World Championship. That's a separate podcast. But of all the
42:03
Speaker 3: people they could have brought in to do this race
42:07
Speaker 3: for V forty six, I think it was probably down
42:10
Speaker 3: to two really, Nicolo Bulager and Andrea Andanoni. And Buliger
42:15
Speaker 3: had made some noises like he's young and probably still
42:18
Speaker 3: has aspirations of getting back to Moto GP or into
42:21
Speaker 3: the World Championship, and I'm not sure he was that
42:24
Speaker 3: keen on doing it unless he could test beforehand. And
42:26
Speaker 3: with the way the calendaries you've got three races in
42:28
Speaker 3: a row, there was going to be no testing for him.
42:30
Speaker 3: So obviously World Superbikes has finished for the year. You Knowoni,
42:34
Speaker 3: we know the story band initially for eighteen months for
42:38
Speaker 3: failing a steroid test. Appealed the band, saying that he'd
42:41
Speaker 3: eaten a piece of contaminated meat in Malaysia, of all places,
42:44
Speaker 3: which is where we're going back to so vegan diet
42:47
Speaker 3: for Andrea this weekend. I would have thought, but yeah,
42:50
Speaker 3: and then of course he appealed that sentence saying that
42:53
Speaker 3: he had accidentally taken this steroid because of some contaminated meat.
42:57
Speaker 3: Wada looked at it and said, no, we don't like
42:59
Speaker 3: that evidence and slapped him with a four year ban
43:02
Speaker 3: because he wouldn't accept the eighteen month band. So this
43:05
Speaker 3: is why we haven't seen Andrea Aroni on a World
43:07
Speaker 3: Championship grid since twenty nineteen when he was with a Prillier.
43:11
Speaker 3: He's thirty five years old now and this is really
43:15
Speaker 3: a dou Cati aligned rider getting a free hit from
43:18
Speaker 3: an old mate for one race. I don't think he'll
43:21
Speaker 3: do Valencia simply because the post race test at Valencia
43:26
Speaker 3: two days after that last GP, Mikaylee Piro is going
43:29
Speaker 3: to be there anyway, so it makes no sense to
43:31
Speaker 3: have Yunoni do that and then throw Piro on the
43:33
Speaker 3: bike for the test. He may as well do both
43:35
Speaker 3: given that he's going to be there. So this is
43:37
Speaker 3: not some sort of you know, career comeback or something
43:39
Speaker 3: for Yunoni. It's just a chance for a mate of
43:42
Speaker 3: Valentino and Uccho saluci Us to do his last race
43:45
Speaker 3: and go out on his terms. But super interesting because
43:48
Speaker 3: you can say a lot of things about Yuanini, and
43:50
Speaker 3: a lot of people have over the course of time,
43:52
Speaker 3: but he was never slow. He was a little demotivated
43:56
Speaker 3: from time to time, and I do remember him missing
43:58
Speaker 3: a preseason test at Paying because his facelift hadn't healed properly.
44:03
Speaker 3: So this is kind of the deal. And the look
44:04
Speaker 3: on your face, I'm not sure you've heard that one before.
44:07
Speaker 3: There's a lot of there's a lot going on with Andrea,
44:09
Speaker 3: let's be perfectly honest, but the guy could never be
44:11
Speaker 3: accused of being slow. So it'd be super interesting him
44:14
Speaker 3: stepping back on a motor GP bike for the first
44:17
Speaker 3: time in a really long time, and not just a
44:20
Speaker 3: motor GP bike, a very very fast motor GP bike
44:23
Speaker 3: that the previous rider ever finished in the top four
44:26
Speaker 3: in the past two races. So that's another little subplot
44:29
Speaker 3: for this weekend. Where does he fit in? Where how
44:32
Speaker 3: long does it take him to get up to speed?
44:34
Speaker 3: He's on the best bike in the Okay, it's a
44:35
Speaker 3: GP twenty three, but he's on the best manufacturer in
44:38
Speaker 3: the business. He might be taking some points off a
44:40
Speaker 3: few people. If he gets he guess himself sorted this weekend.
44:43
Speaker 3: But of all the people I thought that would be
44:46
Speaker 3: back on the Motor GP grid, he was pretty close
44:48
Speaker 3: to the bottom of my list after what had happened
44:51
Speaker 3: five years ago.
44:52
Speaker 2: I just like you.
44:53
Speaker 1: Saw my face the whole facelift thing. For those who
44:57
Speaker 1: don't know what Andrea Ian and He's been up to.
45:00
Speaker 1: When he wasn't racing, he did feature on Italy's Dancing
45:03
Speaker 1: with the Stars well, so he's.
45:05
Speaker 2: Been a very busy man on and off track.
45:09
Speaker 1: He is a character, and I think that's what's exciting
45:12
Speaker 1: here is a character. There's been a lot of talk
45:15
Speaker 1: and speculation and controversy, maybe because he's coming back in
45:20
Speaker 1: and that's what Moto GP needs. Is exciting. All the
45:23
Speaker 1: socials talking about Dre you know what, he's coming back.
45:25
Speaker 2: People like he shouldn't have come back. They're like, yeah,
45:28
Speaker 2: he's coming back to Moto GP. It's exciting.
45:31
Speaker 1: It just adds to the other layer of what is
45:33
Speaker 1: Malaysia gonna bring this weekend, probably some thunderstorms in the afternoon.
45:38
Speaker 1: A man who's been on Dancing with the Stars and
45:40
Speaker 1: recently Valentino ROSSI was on some Italian or Spanish TV
45:45
Speaker 1: show talking about Jorge Lorenzo and Mark Marquez. So there
45:47
Speaker 1: is stuff happening left right and censor, not just Peco
45:51
Speaker 1: Banyaya and Jorge Martine with the hashtag rematch.
45:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, the silly season. We talked about mid year whatever
45:58
Speaker 3: one's need to be swapping Sea every five minutes. But
46:01
Speaker 3: it's gone from sort of silly to ridiculous in the
46:02
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks. We've just referenced facelifts, dancing with
46:05
Speaker 3: the Stars, and something else I can't remember in the
46:07
Speaker 3: last three minutes. So yeah, it's definitely getting a bit
46:10
Speaker 3: nuts at this time of year.
46:11
Speaker 1: Is that it is? But I feel like that's where we
46:14
Speaker 1: can call it a day. We know your thoughts on
46:17
Speaker 1: the Malaysia Grand Prix. I believe Jey Martin is going
46:21
Speaker 1: to be strong. I also think this is a track
46:23
Speaker 1: that does suit Mark Marquez. You know, it's the type
46:26
Speaker 1: of track. There's a lot of long straights here, hardbreaking
46:29
Speaker 1: on camera, off Canber. It's hard to not want, like
46:33
Speaker 1: you said earlier, it's hard to not just say Jey
46:35
Speaker 1: Martin's going to be fast, He's going to put it
46:37
Speaker 1: on pole and because of the variabilities, he's going to
46:40
Speaker 1: be stronger than Peco Banyaya. But the Professor might prevail
46:43
Speaker 1: in Malaysia and we might see him strong and standing
46:47
Speaker 1: on the number one. But ma'am, I feel like that's
46:49
Speaker 1: our Malaysia Grand Prix preview and our Thaighland Grand Prix
46:53
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