Latest / The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon / Tom Kakert talks Hawkeyes, the Chicken Coop Contest & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports
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- 0:07Hour number two welcome Miller and Condon.
- 0:10We take you until well top of the hour off the bench at that
- 0:14time, Sean Roberts, Lucas strain 335 left Michigan, a 12 1/2
- 0:19point favorite, leads Ohio State by three.
- 0:22Ohio State bringing the ball up the floor.
- 0:25Still to come this hour, we'll give four of you.
- 0:27Toward the bottom of the hour, we'll give you an opportunity to
- 0:29call in and get you set up to win some grub from the chicken
- 0:32coop. If you haven't played in the
- 0:35last 30 days, you were eligible to do so.
- 0:37More information on that coming up.
- 0:39Trent's got some plays of the day.
- 0:40Circus Sports sponsored those at about 10 minutes or so before,
- 0:45too. Let's talk some hoxie's.
- 0:46Tom Cacart, hawkeyereport.com Did you come home, Tom?
- 0:49Are you still in Chicago? Oh, I I headed home after the
- 0:53game. So yeah, I got.
- 0:55Busy week coming on. And I didn't want to have to
- 0:59drive in this awful wind today. So just nasty.
- 1:04Yeah, hey, I love Chicago. I think a lot of people love
- 1:07Chicago. I don't love Chicago when it
- 1:09comes to an event like this. Indianapolis is further to
- 1:13drive, but I think it's a better destination because, you know,
- 1:16the fan bases, they can, you know, get together and they can,
- 1:20you know, you know, where everybody for the most part is
- 1:22going to be found, you know, partying in advance of the game
- 1:24or after the game. And and it's that's not just not
- 1:28going to happen around the United Center.
- 1:30How was it received as far as those two cities that seemingly
- 1:33share this event? Yeah, it was especially
- 1:39Wednesday, the sparse crowd. You know, there was a lot of
- 1:44people there for the Iowa game and there was even less people
- 1:47there, surprisingly for the Washington USC game.
- 1:52Not a lot of USC Washington fans that made the trek to to shy
- 1:56town. But yeah, it's just because the
- 2:00United Center is just off in the distance.
- 2:03It's not it's not a downtown arena.
- 2:04And that's the great thing about India's Cambridge is right
- 2:08downtown and there's all the bars and restaurants within a
- 2:11couple blocks of there. And you got places you can go
- 2:15and hang out with your friends and just not you got to drive to
- 2:19the United Center and that's just where you sit.
- 2:21And you just, it's not like you can go to, you know, a pub or a
- 2:26bar or something and watch some other games then walk over
- 2:29there. It just doesn't happen.
- 2:31This team battles back again down 16 against Ohio State, an
- 2:34opportunity to tie the game. We'll talk a little bit about
- 2:37the end game situations, but we've seen this continually out
- 2:40of this squad at times out man, they battle back.
- 2:43They believe they they keep fighting out there.
- 2:45And I know there's frustration losses of eight of the last 10
- 2:49that's definitely going to be there.
- 2:50And you see it on the message boards and on social media.
- 2:52People are not happy about that. But when you take that step back
- 2:56and look at big picture, building the culture, it's
- 2:59something that's difficult for us to talk about on radio, for
- 3:02you to write about. It's something that you just
- 3:04have to see, right? It's the old adage of what I
- 3:07know, pornography when I see it. I know culture when I see it.
- 3:10And with this Iowa program of Ben McComb, it does feel like
- 3:13the culture is building in a good place.
- 3:16Yeah. And it's kind of, you know, I
- 3:19would compare it to like the culture under experience.
- 3:22It's just it's going to be kind of the same thing is you just
- 3:26kind of have to build that base and it takes time.
- 3:29When we saw that with Kirk, it took a couple of years to
- 3:31finally get there and, you know, break the rock, if you will.
- 3:35And to me, success was making the NCAA Tournament this year
- 3:42with this team. And they're going to do that.
- 3:43They're going to make the NCAA Tournament.
- 3:45And we'll see if they can win a game.
- 3:47Maybe, you know, if they win, too, then they're really, you
- 3:49know, then they'll build a statue for Ben McCollum outside
- 3:53of Carver Hawkeye Arena. I'm half kidding, folks.
- 3:55But yeah, that it's, it's a start now.
- 4:01And then after the season's over, it's about going shopping
- 4:04and trying to build something. Because I think he probably a
- 4:09bit about, Oh yeah, the, the type of players you have to have
- 4:14in the Big 10. I I think that's one of the
- 4:16things that he's probably learned a.
- 4:17Little bit about yeah, I couldn't.
- 4:19Agree, have to upgrade. Absolutely.
- 4:21I couldn't agree with you more. And we just saw I, we had a
- 4:23caller during the during the break, knowing you were coming
- 4:25on, asked me to ask you that. I mean, how is his message being
- 4:28received? Are they making any inroads to
- 4:31towards next year's team? Have you got any Intel you can
- 4:34share? And it's there's really nothing
- 4:39that they can officially do, you know, with the portal yet
- 4:43because those guys are not in the portal and you're that
- 4:46really doesn't open up until April 5th.
- 4:48So he's got to wait. But I'll, I'll tell you this
- 4:52because I know just talking to other approaches and in the
- 4:57business, I mean, there's been discussions with agents.
- 5:01Hey, I'm going to have five guys.
- 5:03These guys are probably going to be in the portal if you're
- 5:05interested when the portal opens in April, and that's probably
- 5:09going back to January. There's this stuff just goes on
- 5:13behind the scenes. And so you've got kind of an
- 5:15idea about who's going to be available and the next step is
- 5:20the price tag. And Jamie Shaw from on three,
- 5:23one of our basketball recruiting guys put a story up this week
- 5:26where you know, the average cost of a really good top level
- 5:31center in the portal this year is going to be about $3,000,000
- 5:34a year. A really good point guard is
- 5:37going to be 800,000 to $2,000,000.
- 5:40So that's what you're dealing with now is it's, it's a
- 5:44financial decision for a lot of these guys too.
- 5:47When it comes to that, how was Iowa's Iowa men's basketball
- 5:51NIL? Good shape, middle of the pack,
- 5:53lower third of the Big 10. Where would you kind of rank it
- 5:55right now from what you know in their ability?
- 5:58You need a point guard, You need a rim protector.
- 6:00As you said, those are going to cost money.
- 6:02How is Iowa financially in the NILN scape for the men?
- 6:06I know that they're working hard to get kind of AI guess you
- 6:11would call it almost a war chest to put together.
- 6:14I think they're just out of the the house settlement.
- 6:17They'll probably have about four mil is whatever guess out of
- 6:21that. You know, football's going to
- 6:23get the bulk of that, but and then they're going to have some
- 6:27extra money. So I would guess, boy, I think
- 6:31they'd probably want to be, you know, 4 million on the outside
- 6:36stuff and then 4 million from the from from house.
- 6:41So if they can get somewhere around there that's competitive
- 6:45to the mid upper pack of the Big 10 is my, my estimation.
- 6:49But there be a lot of Big 10 schools that are over 10 pretty
- 6:52easily. Yeah, no doubt.
- 6:54Tom, do you know where the team's going to gather on
- 6:57Sunday? Will be an open event?
- 6:59No, there'll be a media opportunity afterwards.
- 7:01You know what they're doing for the Selection Sunday show, by
- 7:04the way, if you can't be in front of your TV, we're we're
- 7:06going to air it on KX note from 5:00 until 8.
- 7:09So you'll see the bracket unveiled and then that's the
- 7:12Westwood one programming and then obviously banter about the
- 7:16brackets and etcetera. So do you know where the team's
- 7:18going to be, Tom? I have not.
- 7:21I know they were talking about it.
- 7:23I think then wanted to wait until after the Big 10
- 7:26tournament got done to kind of make some decisions.
- 7:28They were, I'm hoping that they're going to let us kind of
- 7:31do something. I know there was some talk of
- 7:34the men's and women's team kind of getting having an event
- 7:37somewhere, but I don't know that that's probably going to happen
- 7:39now. So we'll see.
- 7:41But I hopefully we'll we'll be able to talk to some of the guys
- 7:47and get to see their reactions when they see their name up on
- 7:50the on the board. What are you hearing, what are
- 7:53you seeing? We talk about Bracket Matrix a
- 7:55lot with all the bracketologist put together.
- 7:57They have Iowa as a #9 see currently when you put it
- 8:00together as low as a 10. I think there was an 8 out
- 8:03there. I know a lot of Hawkeye fans
- 8:05want to see him out of the 8-9 game.
- 8:06I know Ken Miller wants to see him out of the 8-9 game.
- 8:09What do you anticipate we're going to see on Sunday?
- 8:13I think it's probably 8-9. I don't think they're going to
- 8:15get to A7. I think the 10s are worse than
- 8:19Iowa's resume, so it's probably going to be 8-9 somewhere.
- 8:27Here's my my my fun thought. Ten wins the Ivy and they get
- 8:33get a 16 and they go against whoever it is that Iowa has in
- 8:37the the 8-9 game. Wouldn't that be fun?
- 8:39You guys get to interview Fran again?
- 8:41That'll be great. Wouldn't that, wouldn't that be
- 8:43fun and that would be awesome. Maybe the 8-9 game is TCU so you
- 8:47get Brock Harding there. We mentioned that earlier.
- 8:49Yep. That would be that's at the
- 8:51Athletic has Iowa versus PCU in the 8-9.
- 8:55Wouldn't that be something? Wouldn't that be something if if
- 8:59Fran makes a tournament just to begin with?
- 9:01Fran makes a tournament, which is something that could happen
- 9:05and then he gets a 16 and we're in the same place.
- 9:08What would be fun? Trevor alluded to it earlier.
- 9:11The final shot, Hostin's final shot, yeah, he had to be
- 9:16anticipating contact. Tom, we both kind of feel that
- 9:19way. I think McCollum kind of tipped
- 9:20his hand that that's what they thought was going to happen.
- 9:23That had to be what predicated that disappointing shot at the
- 9:27end there, right? They were, they were, they were
- 9:30yelling foul, foul, foul before the play even inbounded and the
- 9:37players were reacting to that and they he was coming there
- 9:39guys coming at him foul, foul, foul.
- 9:41So it was a good trick on their part.
- 9:44You know that to to pretend like they were going to foul and keep
- 9:47verbalizing it like that and then I will reacts that way and
- 9:52I don't I still don't think he got touched.
- 9:53He claimed he got. No, I don't think he did either.
- 9:55Yeah. I think he just kind of dove
- 9:58backwards and shot it and put it on top of the backboard.
- 10:02Howard's shot was right on. I thought it's just a back iron.
- 10:06I mean, I wouldn't that have been something if that one went
- 10:09in. But yeah, you just you can't dig
- 10:12that hole and they dug a hole. And and then if I wonder what
- 10:17would have happened if I say Howard doesn't dribble a ball
- 10:20off his foot, you know, maybe they get a bucket that on that
- 10:22possession and things are a little different.
- 10:25Before, I don't want to forget this, so I'm going to come right
- 10:27back with a question here. Sturtz's quad, I think that's
- 10:31what they would refer to it during the game.
- 10:33He didn't miss much time. He was.
- 10:36Out for a minute. He did take him off the floor
- 10:38for a minute, but is there? Is this serious, Tom?
- 10:41How concerned are they, if at all?
- 10:45He told me he got a knee to that quad.
- 10:48He's got a big pad on that, on wearing those compression shorts
- 10:52and it's a padded thing, so it had to have been a pretty good
- 10:56knee. I think he's probably dealing
- 10:57with something already there and he says he's going to be fine.
- 11:02So he's going to basically get like a week off from playing.
- 11:06So I think from that aspect it's probably good because what he
- 11:11was he was on fumes yesterday for sure.
- 11:17At the end of that game. You could just his body
- 11:20language. I, I was watching him and he was
- 11:22just taking these deep breaths when there was any break and
- 11:25just he wasn't grabbing his shorts because he doesn't want
- 11:27to show people that he's tired, but he was, he was exhausted.
- 11:32Tom, take us to the postgame press conference and thought it
- 11:35was really interesting. McCullum talking about going
- 11:37from really good to great and not settling.
- 11:40I know that people want to build a trophy if you just get them to
- 11:43a Sweet 16 this year. Doesn't sound like though that's
- 11:45what he wants. When you hear him, you're in all
- 11:48those press conferences. We've had opportunities with
- 11:50talk with him. He is a very interesting guy to
- 11:53hear speak and doesn't just give you cliches.
- 11:55He digs a little bit deeper. Take us into that press
- 11:58conference yesterday, what he said and what he's still trying
- 12:00to build with this program. It was, it was so fascinating
- 12:04listening to talk about that. And it sounds like he's read the
- 12:08the Jim Collins book Good to Great.
- 12:10And just he doesn't want to, you know, he said sometimes feels
- 12:15like this team is just happy being good and that they can be
- 12:19great. And he said he did that in his
- 12:22career when he was making Sweet Sixteens and felt like I'm doing
- 12:26pretty good. And he had to push himself a
- 12:29little bit more to to be great and then start winning national
- 12:32titles, started just making it the sweet Sixteens.
- 12:34And it's he just that's his mentality.
- 12:39And that's why I think he's going to be successful is
- 12:41because he just doesn't accept good.
- 12:45He he's never going to be one of those guys that's just like, oh,
- 12:48OK, if we've made it work, we're good here.
- 12:51And we're just going to start kind of being on cruise control.
- 12:54He's just ultimately motivated. I'll tell you Wednesday that was
- 12:59on edge, as on edge as I've ever seen him on a sideline, because
- 13:03I think he felt they had to win that game to feel good about
- 13:06making the NCAA tournament. And he was, he was wowing so
- 13:12tight and you could tell he was exhausted after the game when we
- 13:17were talking to him. He was just like he's spent
- 13:20because he he was expending so much energy on on the sidelines,
- 13:24just coaching the team and getting them to that, that win.
- 13:27And I was worried when it was down 11 got to say that.
- 13:32And then 21 zip run usually turns those rounds upside down.
- 13:37And you could tell Maryland's body language just they they
- 13:41left the building, they were ready to go home.
- 13:44Unbelievable. Well, we won't talk to you till
- 13:45the tournament is underway. We'll either be recapping
- 13:48Thursday. As long as the game's not
- 13:49happening at that, well, that's. True too, as long as so is this
- 13:54the year a Big 10 team wins a national championship?
- 13:59Boy, I would like to say yes, but I think if Michigan's got a
- 14:05shot, they really do. I think they're, I think they're
- 14:08pretty good. I don't know how they're doing
- 14:10right now. Up 3 was 6 seconds left.
- 14:13Well, they're going to hold on then.
- 14:17Yeah, they're going to hold on. So that's that's I think they've
- 14:21got a chance just because they've if they shoot the ball
- 14:25well, you know, I'm Duke was team to beat him, but I don't
- 14:30know how healthy that Duke team is going to be moving forward.
- 14:34The team I'm kind of watching is Florida, because that's the team
- 14:37that's kind of just caught fire and somebody might have invested
- 14:42in them when they were plus 1000.
- 14:44I know I don't know. I don't know anybody who would
- 14:47do that. But you know, somebody might
- 14:49have done that when they saw them winning some games.
- 14:52So. And you know, the Gators are
- 14:54good. They got a Condon on their team
- 14:55that that makes them great. Takes them to a different level.
- 14:59Is that your cousin? Is that your tall cousin?
- 15:01Yes, yeah, he's a foot and a half taller than me and from
- 15:03Australia, but we're related somehow, someway.
- 15:06I'm going to take credit because we don't get a whole lot of
- 15:08those, certainly in the condo lineage that are played at that
- 15:10kind of level. Tom, want to jump over to the
- 15:13women's team. The UCLA game was a disaster.
- 15:16I mean, everything that could go wrong did.
- 15:18UCLA was not missing. And if UCLA shoots like that,
- 15:20they're beating UConn and maybe beating UConn convincingly.
- 15:23I don't think they're going to shoot like that against them.
- 15:25But that's way down the road still with that loss.
- 15:28It's so ugly, A50 point loss. Are there is there any danger
- 15:32that they're not a number two seed?
- 15:34And with it, if they are #2 what path is it going to be?
- 15:37Who would likely be the number one seed in the bracket that the
- 15:40Hawkeyes are in? That's a great question.
- 15:44I I still think there are two because it's a, it's a body work
- 15:48thing. And their worst losses were
- 15:51against the top two teams in the country, UConn and and UCLA, and
- 15:58they lost them. That's three of their losses.
- 16:01So yeah, I, I think there's still a 2, but I don't know that
- 16:08they'll get matched up in the same bracket was either UCLA or
- 16:12UConn, maybe UConn. I don't know that they'll do it
- 16:15with UCLA just because they played twice now.
- 16:18So maybe maybe they'll get South Carolina in in their bracket.
- 16:24I'm kind of curious who they get per three seed, if it's going to
- 16:27be like somebody like a Louisville or something like
- 16:29that that they get get matched up with.
- 16:33So we'll we'll find out, but I'm anxious to see what they, what,
- 16:40what, what teams are coming to Iowa City too, because that'll
- 16:43be a that'll be interesting that that second game has always been
- 16:46a tricky one for Iowa, even when Caitlin was really cooking.
- 16:50Have you seen her place and she's been back at all?
- 16:53I just saw highlights, so I haven't seen much because I've
- 16:57just been kind of busy and just doing other stuff and I just
- 17:01like guess I'd like to watch her play and like to watch some play
- 17:04sometimes. So I'm going to have to TuneIn
- 17:07this weekend. Angel Reese decided she wanted
- 17:09to be the point guard at one point in the game yesterday.
- 17:11She took the rebound away from Caitlin, decided to throw the
- 17:14ball the length of the floor and promptly threw it right out of
- 17:17bounds. There there's you can't tell me
- 17:20there's not there's not a hatred there one sided all you know and
- 17:23they and anyways it's it's it hasn't.
- 17:26I saw, I saw one, I saw one highlight where she where
- 17:28Caitlin threw threw an assist to to Angel.
- 17:31Reese, I saw that. Yeah, I did.
- 17:33Yeah. You know what?
- 17:35She's so fun to watch. I just.
- 17:37I can't get enough of her playing basketball.
- 17:39I truly can't. I hope she stays healthy and I
- 17:42hope there's a season she TV. She is, yeah.
- 17:44Must be, Yeah. Just as there's one, there's you
- 17:48get those athletes every once in a while.
- 17:49Tiger Woods was that way with golf.
- 17:51Yeah, you know, And she's, she's the same way with basketball.
- 17:54You're just watching to see what she's going to do next.
- 17:56Yeah, no question. Thank you, Tom.
- 17:58Appreciate this. We'll talk to you from somewhere
- 18:00next week. Hopefully your schedule will.
- 18:02Appreciate that, Tom. Yes, absolutely.
- 18:04Yep. See, buddy.
- 18:05Good to talk to you, Tom Caker, hawkeyereport.com as we check in
- 18:09on the Hawks. So do you have a feel where
- 18:10they're going? I think they're gonna end up on
- 18:14Duke's side of the number ones. And yes, they can play Michigan
- 18:19in the round of 32. I know there's people out there
- 18:21have the old rules that are in place.
- 18:23That's not the case anymore with these bloated conferences.
- 18:25Now. We saw it in Des Moines,
- 18:27Michigan State, Minnesota, played in the second round,
- 18:29played just once in the regular season.
- 18:31So they could be could be placed with the Wolverines.
- 18:33I don't believe that's going to happen, though.
- 18:36I just have a sneaking suspicion it's going to be an 8-9 game.
- 18:39They'll be facing off if they win against Duke in the second.
- 18:41Round which one seed would Duke? Would be the one seed.
- 18:46But did you? Were you going to ask me which
- 18:47one seed that I would rather see or that I would have a better
- 18:49chance? I'm not sure the answer is an
- 18:51answer. I watched a lot of the Florida
- 18:53State game last night. Yeah, they if it would have shot
- 18:55at. Them, yes, absolutely.
- 18:56That's not a good Florida State. They're playing a lot better and
- 18:59they're really young, but. Look at Ngapa, they're centre.
- 19:02He's a hell of a player. I think I'm saying his name
- 19:05right. He's a really good player and he
- 19:07didn't play a lick. Last night, Arizona's a terrible
- 19:09match up for Iowa if they get shipped to San Diego to play
- 19:11Arizona. Are we overlooking Arizona?
- 19:14I've always thought all year, most of the year, I thought it
- 19:16was Michigan and Duke on their same on one level.
- 19:19Then a little drop to Arizona, then a little drop to, you know,
- 19:23a Florida, a Yukon, and now Yukon's falling off of that.
- 19:27Maybe, maybe Arizona's the team I'm sleeping on.
- 19:30Obviously we'll get a good look at them tonight as they'll play
- 19:32Iowa State. It's a 3 point shooting.
- 19:34The lack of three-point shooting that they have overall, that's
- 19:372. Guards.
- 19:37They got 2 bigs. They just don't shoot a ton of
- 19:40them and. You know what really like on
- 19:42that team where I think maybe he comes off the bench or Waka.
- 19:46He's a hell of a player. You know my love of Della Roso.
- 19:49And him too. I absolutely love that dude.
- 19:52He's out there fired up shots, not always great shots, but he's
- 19:54going to get his. When he gets into the ball game.
- 19:57He's a chucker. I like chuckers sometimes.
- 19:59Usually unless they're playing for my team, then I hate
- 20:00chuckers. Michigan has prevailed, and I'll
- 20:03use it. Prevailed because Ohio State
- 20:05gave them all they wanted. 7167 It was a tussle.
- 20:09Hats off to the Buckeyes. Hats off to the Buckeyes.
- 20:12I want to pass along one more Hawkeye note.
- 20:15I was looking. I know everybody just goes to on
- 20:17the women's side, Charlie Karine, because there's not a
- 20:19whole lot of bracket just that are out there.
- 20:21Is he the only one? No, there's there's others out
- 20:24there and I thought is. He the only one that's credible.
- 20:28I think other people. Are they?
- 20:29Yeah. Well, it's a place that I go
- 20:31often for analytical sites on the women's side 'cause they're
- 20:34just aren't the same volume. It is her hoop, stats.com.
- 20:38Her hoops what stats.com, Their pragetology.
- 20:42I just found it really interesting.
- 20:43So they have Iowa as A2 seat. They open up against Green Bay,
- 20:47UW Green Bay in the first round and then get the winner of
- 20:50Georgia, Syracuse. And we remember the Georgia game
- 20:52a couple years ago. That was a tussle against the
- 20:55Bulldogs. They are in the same bracket,
- 20:57though. The number one seed is South
- 20:58Carolina. And of the number ones, maybe
- 21:01that's the best one. But here's the next level.
- 21:03I know too, you don't want to play.
- 21:04Yes. Definitely not UCLA.
- 21:06Definitely not Yukon. Also the 8-9 game in the South
- 21:11Carolina and Iowa bracket. Iowa State.
- 21:14Villanova. Wouldn't that be something?
- 21:15South Carolina, Iowa State in the round of 32.
- 21:18That'd be great. We saw going back to the
- 21:20freshman campaign for Addie Brown and the whole crew.
- 21:24They gave Stanford a tussle in that second round match up.
- 21:28The metrics. Don't love this Iowa State team?
- 21:30What did they play? Was that two years ago?
- 21:31Members on Thanksgiving weekend, Iowa State women played South
- 21:35Carolina. Oh yeah, it was two years ago.
- 21:37It wasn't this year, was it? Yeah, I think it was two years
- 21:40ago. I think you're.
- 21:41Right yes, it was not good no, they lost by 50 a lot yes, it
- 21:45was a ton and that was on big Fox 2 it.
- 21:47Was yes. It was a nationally televised
- 21:49game. You're right.
- 21:50And got blitzed by that one that that South Carolina team is much
- 21:54different than this South Carolina team that has lost
- 21:57three games this year. They're still good, but they
- 22:01lost to Texas twice. They lost to Oklahoma.
- 22:03Branchek's squad got that one done.
- 22:07Of the ones, they're the most beatable, but there's still
- 22:11another tier. Yep, Nope.
- 22:13I I agree with you, by the way, since Thanksgiving entered our
- 22:15conversation. I'll never understand it, but
- 22:19there's a lot of people that don't feel that that the NFL is
- 22:21doing us any favours by putting a game on Wednesday night.
- 22:25What's wrong with it? I'll never understand more
- 22:28football being a bad thing. I get that it dilutes a little
- 22:32bit of Sunday's slate because we're going to have three games
- 22:35Thursday, one game Friday. What's ever left is going to be
- 22:38Sunday. But what else is going on on
- 22:40Thanksgiving Eve? I know that if you're in your
- 22:4320s and your 30s, you're going to a bar and you're drinking to
- 22:45your, you know what face, right? Absolutely.
- 22:47I get it. People travel that people
- 22:49travel, but a lot not. Everybody just sits in their
- 22:51basement. But a lot of people have already
- 22:52got home, and if you don't really like your family, you've
- 22:55had enough of them already, You can turn the TV on and open your
- 22:58app and fire. I don't understand why it's
- 23:00getting as much pushback as it is because it's a Wednesday.
- 23:04I think it's just so many people are enough is enough.
- 23:07But hey, but is it? Yeah, is it?
- 23:10I'm not in that camp. For people that have regular
- 23:13lives, it is. I know you're not.
- 23:15And you really haven't ever been that way, right?
- 23:18You are, you are in the upper what, not even the first
- 23:22percentile, the 10th 1 percentile of people that could
- 23:25just do whatever you want, watch whatever you want.
- 23:29That's not the reality for so many people.
- 23:31A lot of people are spread thin. You got a lot going on.
- 23:34And for so many, it's just here's another one.
- 23:37Here's another. But if you're on a plane, you
- 23:38can watch it on your. But not always, not everybody.
- 23:41If you're in the car, you could turn the the radio on and find
- 23:44the game somewhere. I the old, the old.
- 23:49Does the NBA play? I know the we have college
- 23:51football for like, the second week in October, every day
- 23:54leading up until that Tuesday of Thanksgiving week.
- 23:57I don't think I know the NHL plays on Thanksgiving Eve.
- 24:03I don't know if they're gonna stick a game in there.
- 24:05You got my vote. Not that it matters.
- 24:07Miller and Condon. All right.
- 24:08Right now, 515-284-5966 If you haven't played the chicken coop
- 24:15contest in the last 30 days, you are eligible to do so.
- 24:19We'll give you 4 games and their points spread.
- 24:21You give us the answer, you get the most right.
- 24:23You'll get a $50.00 gift certificate to use as you please
- 24:25at any of the three chicken coops.
- 24:27The runner up will get 20 wings Chicken coop giveaway next.
- 24:31Miller and Condon glad you're with us on Des Moines Sports
- 24:34Station One O 6.3 KX&O. Hi, Miller Cod, and welcome back
- 24:44Iowa Sports Radio Network. Glad you're with us.
- 24:47We'll take you until 2:00. I guess there's going to be a
- 24:50massive snowstorm coming north of us.
- 24:52Minneapolis Delta's apparently cancelling flights already for
- 24:55Saturday and Sunday. Jeez, have you ever heard of
- 24:57that before? This far out?
- 24:58Well, I guess Saturday is tomorrow.
- 25:00Like in Buffalo, things like that potentially, but.
- 25:03Yeah, I saw. Green Bay's going to get 2 feet,
- 25:06Minneapolis a foot and 1/2. Good for those crooks up there.
- 25:09Yeah, stay away from us. Let'd be glad not to be flying
- 25:12through the Twin Cities. I saw this is a really nice
- 25:14airport. So it's spring break week next
- 25:16week or started today for the kids and I saw on Monday it's
- 25:20going to be 16° by Wednesday 67. It's unbelievable and we we may
- 25:24get some snow meteorologist Ken Miller.
- 25:26Yes, Brian, Andy, Todd and Tyler will give you 4 games.
- 25:31If you get the most right, you'll get a $50.00 gift
- 25:34certificate to use it you as you please.
- 25:36It's one of the three chicken coop locations, 12725 Meredith
- 25:40and Urbandale, 60th and Ashworth in West Des Moines and on oral
- 25:44labor just southwest of the DMAC campus in Ankeny.
- 25:50The tiebreaker was going to use Canada versus the US in the
- 25:55World Baseball Classic quarterfinal tonight, but I'm
- 25:58tired of the United States beating Canada and anything, so
- 26:01I probably don't want to be reminded of it.
- 26:04So we're going to use Cedar Falls and the Dragons in the 4A
- 26:08boys championship game. Total points.
- 26:11That's the tiebreaker. You'll have to call 96.9 the
- 26:14bull. That game's in 90 minutes.
- 26:16It is. So you're going to get off the
- 26:17air. Maybe beat me out the door
- 26:19today. No, no chance.
- 26:21You are out the door within 10 seconds of the show ending every
- 26:25single time. There's no way I can beat you.
- 26:28Is up first. Hello Brian, How are you?
- 26:31Hi gentlemen. Thank you for accepting my call.
- 26:34Good to talk to you. So Arizona is a 3 1/2 point
- 26:38favorite tonight over Iowa State.
- 26:41Oh, I think I got to take Arizona.
- 26:44Houston, a 5 1/2 point favorite over the Kansas Jayhawks?
- 26:51I'm going to take Houston. Purdue, a 3 1/2 point favorite
- 26:54over Nebraska. Oh my gosh, I I'm going to take
- 27:05NU. OK, Duke, a 10 1/2 point
- 27:08favorite over Clemson. Duke.
- 27:13Give us an idea, Trent, how high scoring these 4A games have
- 27:16been? Johnston keeps the scoring down,
- 27:19OK, They want to keep it in the 40s or 50s, OK Cedar Falls will
- 27:22get out and run a little bit more.
- 27:24So there's at least a little overview for the list.
- 27:26OK. So there's kind of a little help
- 27:28there for you, Brian, if you need it.
- 27:31Total points. This is the tiebreaker closest
- 27:33without going over Cedar Falls Johnson 4A final coming up at
- 27:373:00. I'm going to say 110. 110 it is.
- 27:41Brian. Have a great weekend.
- 27:43Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you.
- 27:45Hello, Andy. How are you?
- 27:47How are you? Good.
- 27:48How are you guys? Good.
- 27:49Arizona 3 1/2 point favorite over Iowa State.
- 27:53They're down, Wildcats. Houston gives 5 1/2 to Kansas.
- 27:58Rock Chalk. Jayhawk.
- 28:00Purdue 3 1/2 point favorite over Nebraska.
- 28:04Or boilers. Duke, a 10 1/2 point favorite
- 28:07over Clemson. New keys.
- 28:10Cedar Falls Johnson tiebreaker closest without going over Andy.
- 28:151091. 09 Thank you, Sir. Appreciate it.
- 28:19Todd is with Miller and Condon. Hi, Todd.
- 28:23Hey, Ken, how are you doing? Good.
- 28:24Thanks. Arizona 3 1/2 point favorite
- 28:26over Iowa State. Then you heard it here first.
- 28:30Iowa State does not lose again this season.
- 28:33Wow, mark the tape a parade of names.
- 28:39Where would they? Have and I'm leaving it.
- 28:41OK. Where would the parade be in
- 28:43names? Well, there's not a ton of
- 28:45options. That's that's why I'm asking.
- 28:46Yeah, put. It right up Welch Ave.
- 28:49There you go, Todd Houston, 5 1/2 point favorite over Kansas.
- 28:54Kansas. Purdue, a 3 1/2 point favorite
- 28:56over Nebraska. Nebraska.
- 29:00Duke is a 10 1/2 point favorite over Clemson tonight.
- 29:07Clemson. Taking the points, I like it a
- 29:10lot. Cedar Falls Johnson total points
- 29:13closest without going over Todd. 98.
- 29:17Thanks Todd. Enjoy the weekend.
- 29:19Hey, thanks, Ken. Yep, Trent.
- 29:21Good to talk to you. And then Tyler is our final
- 29:24contestant. Hi, Tyler.
- 29:28Howdy, howdy, let's get it. Absolutely.
- 29:30Arizona 3 1/2 to Iowa State. Let's go Iowa State.
- 29:35Houston, a 5 1/2 point favorite over Kansas.
- 29:39Well, I'm actually a Jayhawk fan coming going to the game right
- 29:43now from Des Moines, but I'll take the I'll take the Cougars.
- 29:45Do you have your tickets already?
- 29:47Yes. I do.
- 29:50How much did you pay for them do you know or did you get them
- 29:52well in advance? We I got them last night after
- 29:57they beat TCU, although I was sweating that game.
- 29:59Pretty far, yeah. So what'd you pay?
- 30:06Around 3:50. All right, good stuff.
- 30:09You've got good seats by the sounds of things.
- 30:10Did I give you Purdue 3 1/2 over Nebraska?
- 30:14I'll take the Boilermakers. All right, Duke 10 1/2 to
- 30:16Clemson. Amy Clemson.
- 30:19Tiebreaker Cedar Falls Jefferson total points closes without
- 30:23going over. I'll do 97.
- 30:26Who do you want to win the early game?
- 30:27As a Jayhawk fan, you'd rather play Iowa State?
- 30:31No, I mean, I'll, I'll pull for the clones.
- 30:33You know, I, I feel like, I feel like Iowa State fans hate KU
- 30:38fans a lot more yeah than the other way around.
- 30:41So like I pull for Iowa State no problem.
- 30:43Just when they don't play, you know, KU obviously, but I feel
- 30:46like, you know, those cyclone fans, they they want KU to lose.
- 30:49No. Matter.
- 30:50Well it would be to their benefit.
- 30:52If they win, they get a cheaper ticket if Kansas fans don't
- 30:55enter the building tomorrow. So no.
- 30:57That's true. That's very true.
- 30:59Drive safe, enjoy the games. Tyler.
- 31:00Thanks for listening man, appreciate it.
- 31:02Yep. Thanks guys.
- 31:03Good to talk to you on his way to Kansas City.
- 31:06A Jayhawk fan for the game tonight.
- 31:07We do we have any consensus? No, in fact, we are split two
- 31:11and two everywhere in all four games.
- 31:14I thought more people would take Duke and I think I like Clemson
- 31:17to the points tonight. Do you?
- 31:18Don't you? Didn't have a pick on that one.
- 31:21We're playing a lot of games today.
- 31:24So give you some extra time, is that what you're?
- 31:25Saying we we have a lot of games on the dock.
- 31:27I told you this, this might be my favorite day to bet.
- 31:30What is there, 44 games? Is that what I heard?
- 31:33There were like 40 some. It's so much fun being in Vegas
- 31:36today, on this day rather. And yesterday's good, too.
- 31:40It's a perfect one. A lot of games you get teams
- 31:44that know each other. The importance for so many
- 31:47teams, though, sometimes we overstate the importance because
- 31:49we know that these conference tournaments don't really matter.
- 31:53The bracket's going to be done tonight and they'll say they
- 31:55have all these maturations, but after watching the.
- 31:57Big thing. You think it's done tonight?
- 31:59Basically, yeah. Yeah, we've seen it year after
- 32:02year after year. Conference tournaments do not
- 32:06matter as it pertains to moving up seed lines, even if you get
- 32:09great victories. Now for Iowa State, it could
- 32:12matter because they are right between either the last two seed
- 32:15or the first three seed. And if they win, coupled with
- 32:18Michigan State getting beat by UCLA, bye by Illinois getting
- 32:23beat by Wisconsin, that's really going to matter, I believe for
- 32:26Iowa State regardless of what. Because you think they could see
- 32:29the deuce the two line. I do.
- 32:31I think it's still on the table for them and you stack up their
- 32:34resume in comparison to a lot of teams and you throw an Arizona
- 32:36neutral court win on top of it. That's done here.
- 32:40Not on Friday, and certainly not on Sunday.
- 32:42It's a joke. What sees Miami of Ohio.
- 32:44Or are they in the tournament they're in as a 1314 No 14?
- 32:49No, you can't be in that large at that low.
- 32:51No, they're going to be, if they're in a 12, probably 11.
- 32:55Maybe in the play in game? I don't think they're going to
- 32:57put them in a play in game. I believe that they're going to
- 32:59have them not in a play in game. Now you also think of that.
- 33:03We know the play in games do not rate very well.
- 33:06We know that the numbers aren't there.
- 33:08You want to generate interest is there Dayton?
- 33:10Yeah, give me the Power Five team that our power.
- 33:13What are they in? Basketball is 565.
- 33:17Give me the power, the big school that's going to play on
- 33:19Tuesday or Wednesday in Dayton. How about a Texas squad like
- 33:25that? Just into the tournament?
- 33:27Sneak in is Auburn. Sneaking in.
- 33:29No, I hope not. They're dead.
- 33:31Yeah, see Bruce Pearl making a fool of himself yesterday.
- 33:34Bruce it just gets worse and. Worse, it really does.
- 33:37One thing after another and there is a ton of different
- 33:40things there. Texas, Miami of Ohio.
- 33:44That would be the match up. Big brand.
- 33:46Those two teams facing off against each other would be
- 33:48good. The storyline, man.
- 33:52Losing to UMass. I heard you say that yesterday.
- 33:55I disagreed because, well, hey, I had UMass in the points they
- 33:59they played earlier though too, did they?
- 34:00And UMass, it was another one of the games.
- 34:02That has been on fumes for the last two weeks, 3 weeks.
- 34:05They've been pulling out games game after game and finding ways
- 34:08to win, but it's not a team that is playing.
- 34:11I don't think of their apex at this moment in time either.
- 34:14There was a reason they were not even the favorite going into
- 34:16their conference tournament. So let me take a one step
- 34:20further. Does this get I don't want to
- 34:22spend a ton of time in Ohio? It's an intriguing.
- 34:25It is. But does this, does this help
- 34:27them in the tournament? Because now that unbeaten things
- 34:30no longer on their back, you know, they were carrying that
- 34:34weight of being an unbeaten team 31 and oh, everybody's talking
- 34:38about them now. They're no longer.
- 34:40Pressure off a little bit, a little bit.
- 34:42You're playing with house money kind of in there.
- 34:44Yeah, I can buy that. I could buy that because that
- 34:47zero it matters. We saw it matter in the NFL with
- 34:50the Patriots and what they were dragging around and if they
- 34:52would have lost that regular season finale against the
- 34:54Giants. I think they win the Super Bowl
- 34:56and win instead. Of the Giants beating them in
- 34:58the Super. Bowl, absolutely.
- 34:59I think that pressure, it builds.
- 35:01We see that continually happen. I can buy that theory,
- 35:03absolutely, because I think you saw Miami, Ohio, because they're
- 35:07a better team than they looked, even in some of those victories.
- 35:09Early when you started you when you alerted me about this team
- 35:13in the back, you know, mid to late January somewhere around
- 35:17there. Yeah.
- 35:18I mean they they were on on fumes.
- 35:20Yes. And now the pressure's off.
- 35:23Just get in. I could also see them not even
- 35:26put them in Dayton saying that the 31 and no matters.
- 35:29I know that metrically, this is not a good team.
- 35:32This is not a team that should be in consideration for at large
- 35:34unless you look at wins above bubble.
- 35:36And that's the one thing that is keeping them afloat.
- 35:39And we found out when the committee came out.
- 35:41One thing about the committee, when we get the bracket reveal,
- 35:45this is the thing that bothers me now.
- 35:46You love the football TV show. I hate it, but I'm fine with the
- 35:51way that basketball does it. Having just one.
- 35:53I think that's the right way to do it by.
- 35:55The way I don't love the football TV show as much as I
- 35:58used to this year kind of ruined it for me.
- 36:00Finally you finally got there in your final year on the end with
- 36:03me. I finally, after a decade of
- 36:06yelled about it, you finally came around.
- 36:08Yep. The basketball 1 Why can't they
- 36:11give us a full bracket? Because in the grand scheme of
- 36:13things, the top 16 doesn't matter.
- 36:14Yeah, no, I know. We know those teams, right?
- 36:17I want to see what. Or maybe 16 and 17 and 18.
- 36:21There might. But I agree with you, yes.
- 36:23I want to see what does matter to this committee because that
- 36:26fluctuates every single year. Sometimes it is a certain
- 36:29metric, sometimes it is. And if we got that snapshot of
- 36:32what this specific committee is looking for, I think a would be
- 36:36more important when we get to this point in time to figuring
- 36:38things out better than what we get on the football side.
- 36:40Because they just make things up on the fly and lie about it
- 36:43every single week, which there's a reason that drives me nuts.
- 36:47If we got a full bracket, I think we'd have a better idea at
- 36:50this point. Well, is SMU actually fine?
- 36:53Is Miami of Ohio actually fine? Is are these bubble teams good?
- 36:57Is Iowa maybe possibly going to be a Ted seed?
- 36:59Because you look at the way that they are built, there's not a
- 37:02whole lot of quality in their resume when you take a deep look
- 37:05underneath it in comparison to some of the other 8910 seeds,
- 37:09maybe Iowa does fall to a 10 because of that, but we don't
- 37:12know because we don't get that full bracket.
- 37:14We will get Trent's plays of the day.
- 37:16They're coming up next. Circus sports sponsors.
- 37:18Those Mike Palma's in the air as we speak.
- 37:20That's why he didn't join us today.
- 37:22Where's he? Flying to.
- 37:23He's flying home. Oh, he.
- 37:24Is yes, he was home. Oh, he was, he was visiting mom
- 37:28in Dubuque. Oh, Nice spent two or three days
- 37:30over in the eastern part of the state and he flew out of Cedar
- 37:33the, what's it called, the Eastern Iowa airport.
- 37:35It is, yeah. I saw some pictures CID.
- 37:39That's what it is. Yep, it looks really nice.
- 37:42I guess I didn't know. What to expect?
- 37:44They've made improvements. Yes, it looks, I mean, I'm not
- 37:46sure how many terminals they have, but the photos that I saw
- 37:48from it, you know what it might have been.
- 37:50It might have been. Oh God, I can't believe, I can't
- 37:55think of the name. The hero flights.
- 37:56What do they call them with with the veterans, They get on the
- 37:59plane and they and they fly to the monument or the the wall in
- 38:02Washington. Are they called hero flights?
- 38:04Not sure, but anyway, so I saw some footage of it.
- 38:08I thought wow, I just. That's way nicer than I thought
- 38:11it was. I've.
- 38:12Flown out of have you a few times did.
- 38:13You save money. Yes, yeah.
- 38:15And well, when I also lived in Eastern Iowa and that's where
- 38:18you fly out of. Sure.
- 38:19Was he with that or Mason City Municipal?
- 38:22I'm not going out of Osage, that's for sure.
- 38:24So yeah, Waterloo, not a whole lot of opportunities.
- 38:26So yeah, we flew out of seed wraps.
- 38:28Now when I was growing up, not we only flew I think twice
- 38:31growing up ever, but it was out of Minneapolis.
- 38:34Oh, you go north. Yeah, because Minneapolis.
- 38:36This way because Delta's cancelling at weekend rather
- 38:38because Delta's cancelling. Flights We get to the airport in
- 38:40just over 2 hours. It was faster than getting to
- 38:42Des Moines to Minneapolis. And Minneapolis airports.
- 38:44I like that. Airport.
- 38:45I do too. All right, Miller and Condon
- 38:47back with Transplays of the Day. They're next.
- 38:48It's the Iowa Sports Radio Network.