Latest / Behind The Village Podcast / From Local Roots to Global Stage: The Free Label's Story | Cole Mendez & Jacob Thompson
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- 0:00Our best music happens when we can take that
- 0:03and all sit in a room together and try to figure
- 0:07out, you know, how we can all put our little
- 0:11stamp on it. which took years to figure out the
- 0:15process because like there's times where you
- 0:17got to realize like, oh man, like these two or
- 0:19three people are like really in a zone right
- 0:21now. And maybe I'm not understanding exactly
- 0:24what they're hearing or I'm in a bad mood or
- 0:26whatever. I need to like remove myself for like
- 0:2830 minutes and go take a walk and then come back
- 0:30with like the killer lyric that's going to like
- 0:32make the second verse or something. So knowing
- 0:35how to like come in and out and navigate those
- 0:38spaces. Our guests today are Cole Mendes and
- 0:44Jacob Thompson from The Free Label. Cole and
- 0:50Jacob, very nice to meet you guys. And thank
- 0:52you for coming into the podcast, right? You guys
- 0:56are part of The Free Label band. We're two -sixths,
- 1:00yeah. Yeah, that's right, two -sixths. Two -sixths
- 1:03of The Free Label, yeah. So why don't you guys
- 1:07tell me a little bit about how the band got started?
- 1:13well i mean i remember meeting josh in 2017 i
- 1:18think i was going to york university and i remember
- 1:23the day i met him like the moment i met him it
- 1:28was just like oh god damn it i want to be hanging
- 1:30around with this dude for at least the next decade
- 1:32of my life and uh i think they were the band
- 1:38at that point was uh it was going by sneak easy
- 1:41it was a different name um different people and
- 1:44uh yeah i don't know if you've ever heard any
- 1:46of those tracks forgotten history here yeah but
- 1:52uh matt was really the first guy in the band
- 1:55that i met and we were all going to jazz school
- 1:57and hanging out and i remember getting a message
- 1:59from him on facebook being like hey man do you
- 2:02want to play a festival and i was like i'd never
- 2:04played a festival at that point it was like the
- 2:06biggest gig ever um and from that point i was
- 2:12hooked i remember we did that and then uh we
- 2:14played dundas square for something back in the
- 2:18day and nice fun yeah yeah it just uh that started
- 2:21in like 2017 2018 and then we were just kind
- 2:24of rolling really figuring stuff out like looking
- 2:26back it's so funny like to think we're still
- 2:29doing so much of the same things and i'm still
- 2:32doing the same kind of thing i was doing when
- 2:33i was like 16 17 just like being in a band making
- 2:35posters I guess we're better at it. We've been
- 2:43doing it long enough. But yeah, and then Jacob
- 2:47and Jason. So Josh is the lead singer and Matt's
- 2:54the bass player. Malik started off as our drummer,
- 2:57actually, when we first started out. He's our
- 3:01guitar player now. He's a great drummer, but
- 3:03he's a really amazing guitar player. And we went
- 3:07through a couple different members. And then
- 3:09I think, what was it, 2022 or three? Yeah, end
- 3:13of 2022. Yeah. When we got Jacob and Jason in.
- 3:20And that's when the band really became the band.
- 3:24You know what I mean? We spent so much time together
- 3:26between the studio and being on the road in the
- 3:29van and writing songs. Like, it's just, I don't
- 3:34know. This group of guys feels like what the
- 3:36thing, is and always has been yeah well just
- 3:41looking at your uh music videos that i have it
- 3:44just sounds it just looks like a lot of fun like
- 3:46you guys have been doing lives and are doing
- 3:48things on youtube that i was looking at it's
- 3:49just you guys just jamming and going along like
- 3:52it just feels like a very uh tight -knit kind
- 3:56of uh band like it's really cool to uh to see
- 3:58yeah i'm glad that comes across because that's
- 4:01one of the big things like we have so much fun
- 4:04that sometimes i wonder like i was like man if
- 4:07we could just have a camera crew with us all
- 4:09the time to capture this like i feel like it
- 4:12comes across well at our shows um and when people
- 4:15you know meet us in real life or doing things
- 4:18like this but i think you know the the internet
- 4:20thing we're trying to do is uh as much as we
- 4:23can to get that vibe across so i'm glad it's
- 4:25uh it's there but the the real it's just a little
- 4:29piece of how crazy and fun it is in real life
- 4:33That's awesome. What about yourself, Jacob? Because
- 4:36you were more recent in terms of joining the
- 4:39group. And what was that process like for you?
- 4:43Yeah, it was a bit of a whirlwind. Yeah, I was
- 4:46originally just subbing in as like a hired gun.
- 4:48And then they decided they really wanted a keytar
- 4:51player for whatever reason. Part of it, I had
- 4:57to leave the band for a couple months for like
- 5:00family stuff. And me and Jacob have known each
- 5:02other. for like our entire lives we started going
- 5:05to like church choir together we were like five
- 5:07years old and he was the first person i thought
- 5:11of to uh you know be able to step in one because
- 5:15he's an amazing musician and but more than that
- 5:18i knew he could hang with the guys and i knew
- 5:21that the moment that josh and jacob met it was
- 5:25just going to be a disaster for everybody excellent
- 5:28that's what you want yeah yeah No, it was great.
- 5:33It was great. I remember the moment that Josh
- 5:36just, we were partying, right? And he stumbles
- 5:39into my room. He's like, Emma, you're in the
- 5:41band now, right? And I was like, oh, I don't
- 5:46know. Like, we got to, and he's like, okay, good,
- 5:49good, good, good. So here we are. Yeah. Amazing.
- 5:55So you're both, I'm not a musician, so I'm trying
- 5:59to figure out the right word. You're both keyboardists.
- 6:02Yes. But you're different in what you do for
- 6:06the band. So what is it? Well, Cole is a keyboard
- 6:10artist and I am a keytarist. A keytarist. Yeah,
- 6:16that's my main axe. You don't see too many of
- 6:19them around these days. Yeah, that's true. Someone's
- 6:22got to do it. Who are your biggest influences
- 6:24on the keytar, Jacob? Jan Hammer is a big one
- 6:28for me. I think he's one of the best to do it.
- 6:31uh you know edgar winter of course no dude i
- 6:34don't yeah wait they're these famous guitar players
- 6:38dude there's a lineage to this you know glad
- 6:42to see you're placing yourself in a tradition
- 6:44that's right that's right trying to take the
- 6:49place of the modern the modern guitar guy you
- 6:51know you know carrying on the sacred tradition
- 6:54that's right there's honestly not many of us
- 6:56few and far between so So why keytar? Well, I've
- 7:02always been, like, I've been always spiritually
- 7:05drawn to the instrument. Okay, well, it's funny
- 7:08because, I mean, when Jacob, like, was my replacement
- 7:13for a little bit, I mean, you were mostly playing
- 7:14piano, I guess, right? At the time, yeah. But
- 7:17we also have, like, Jacob and I used to jam quite
- 7:21a bit. And you've had a keytar. When did you
- 7:23get your first keytar? 2010, actually, I got
- 7:26my first keytar. yeah so there's a picture of
- 7:29jacob and i and we're both like 17 and 18 or
- 7:32something downtown or really uh uh jamming on
- 7:35the street i'm playing keys and he's playing
- 7:37keytar with his mullet and everything which i'm
- 7:43growing back out now by the way excellent everything
- 7:45comes full circle right that's right so uh yeah
- 7:51we've been doing this longer than it seems yeah
- 7:56it's it's talking about that i was gonna say
- 8:00talking about that you guys uh you mentioned
- 8:03that you were in orillia you guys are local here
- 8:05uh from here yes yeah we're in uh we're in a
- 8:09basement in washago right now i moved down to
- 8:11toronto for a while for for school and i think
- 8:15the band kind of started down there but we got
- 8:17to the point where we were touring so much and
- 8:21it just became such a hassle trying to sublet
- 8:22the apartment all the time and doing all this
- 8:24stuff i was like man when i'm home and not on
- 8:27the road i actually want to be home so yeah yeah
- 8:32moving back in uh with my parents has been amazing
- 8:35one because i like my parents a lot and they're
- 8:37super chill um but it means that i get to when
- 8:40i come home i get to be in the house that i grew
- 8:41up in be in nature the only downside is you got
- 8:45to drive two hours to get down to toronto every
- 8:47other day just to yeah keep everything moving
- 8:49but uh so when we can do stuff like this it's
- 8:51great yeah yeah Yeah, this will always be home
- 8:55for us. We love this place so much. Yeah, absolutely.
- 8:59I could never imagine another place taking that
- 9:02spot. So what was it like, I guess, growing up?
- 9:05You know, I'm assuming that you guys wanted to
- 9:07be artists from a very young age, you know, growing
- 9:10up here and trying to make it, right? Yeah, Cole
- 9:13especially. He won the Young Artist Award. Which
- 9:17I myself was never nominated for. Is that some
- 9:19kind of Kiwanis thing or something? It's a little
- 9:24bitterness. Clearly showed a lot of artistic
- 9:27promise from a young age. That was the ODAC Emerging
- 9:31Artist Award. I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 9:33That was cool. That was a long time ago now.
- 9:37I'm not emerging anymore. Yeah, you made it.
- 9:42yeah this is making it wow this is this is great
- 9:46honestly i was sitting in this room a couple
- 9:51days ago i don't know if you can see like the
- 9:53amount of gear it's kind of all uh beside the
- 9:56camera but i was thinking about uh when i had
- 10:00this room when i was 16 and i had like bunk beds
- 10:02and random stuff and now it's like a full -time
- 10:05studio room with gear that i could never imagined
- 10:08uh having like a Juno 106 and a pianette and
- 10:12I got a organ that I don't know if I'm allowed
- 10:16to say this on the internet, but I don't know
- 10:20if you guys are familiar with Lance Anderson.
- 10:21He's a local legend and international legend
- 10:25on the B3 and he was my first kind of jazz teacher
- 10:31and he taught Jacob as well. Just a killer player
- 10:35and a really, really nice guy. He's got a show
- 10:39coming up at the Stephen Leacock House on the
- 10:4128th, actually. You guys are worth going to.
- 10:43Well, at the time, yeah, he was a big mentor
- 10:45to both of us growing up. Yeah, and I think the
- 10:49only dude around here that we could look up to
- 10:52who had actually done the thing and had done
- 10:55the things musically and artistically that we
- 10:57both aspired to doing at the time. So he hooked
- 11:02us up with... an organ back there, like a B3
- 11:05style organ. That's been an amazing addition
- 11:08to this room. And yeah. So where are we going
- 11:12with this? Just artistry. Yeah. I mean, it's
- 11:14funny, this microphone that I'm holding too,
- 11:16I got at a basement sale at St. Paul's church
- 11:20just a couple of days ago. And that's the church
- 11:23where me and Jacob met and we were in cherub
- 11:27choir and going through that whole process. And
- 11:29Blair Bailey over there was instrumental. to
- 11:33our, uh, development and yeah. But we've just
- 11:38always, we've always been performing like our,
- 11:41our whole lives. And we've always been like,
- 11:43since the, since the beginning, we've been performing
- 11:45together as well, whether vocally or, you know,
- 11:48on our instruments or in other capacities. I
- 11:53mean, I remember like my parents aren't really
- 11:56musicians. Um, But on my mom's side, you know,
- 12:01there's definitely a musical streak. But it was
- 12:03really my dad who, like, forced me into piano
- 12:05lessons early. And I always kind of wondered,
- 12:09like, why? You know, and I didn't really enjoy
- 12:10it for the first couple years. But then you get
- 12:12a couple years in, you're doing all this classical
- 12:13stuff, your fingers develop, and you're like,
- 12:15okay, well, now this is fun. And I always learned
- 12:17more by, you know, just sitting down at the piano
- 12:21and trying to figure things out and, like, being
- 12:23like, oh, these two notes sound good together.
- 12:24Oh, these two notes sound kind of weird. And
- 12:27just kind of figuring it all out. I remember
- 12:28getting like a 53 in grade 10 math and being
- 12:31like, okay, probably not going into the sciences.
- 12:34The door has closed. And then by that time I
- 12:38was like, I guess I'm going to do this music
- 12:39thing like full on. And I told my parents like,
- 12:42I'm going to go to school for music. And they're
- 12:44like, what? I'm like, this is the only thing
- 12:46I know how to do. This is the only thing you
- 12:47guys like taught me how to do. It's like literally
- 12:49the only thing I know. I'm not qualified to do
- 12:51anything else. What did you expect? We're not
- 12:54doing any after school math programs. And I remember
- 12:58we both went to the University of Toronto jazz
- 13:01program. And the single best piece of advice
- 13:04that I got there, it was like the first day you're
- 13:08walking in and the professor goes, if you guys
- 13:13can do. anything else anything do that but if
- 13:20you can't and you're determined to like live
- 13:23this musician life then we'll show you how to
- 13:25not suck at it yeah honest yeah yeah so what
- 13:32does that I guess look like or feel like now
- 13:35you know for both of you kind of committing to
- 13:38that aspect of being a musician you know and
- 13:41that's what you do and What is that? What does
- 13:45it feel like? It's a strange thing. And it's
- 13:48something I think about a lot is that I think
- 13:50the musician is one of the true classless professions
- 13:55and that you have highly successful, like high
- 13:59income musicians, like say like Beyonce or, you
- 14:03know, one of these big acts right down to like
- 14:06people performing in the local community center
- 14:08basement. But we can both be professional musicians.
- 14:12You know what I mean? And file our taxes as musicians.
- 14:15And it's one of the widest income gaps, I think,
- 14:18of any profession. And you see that when you're
- 14:21just living day to day as a professional musician,
- 14:23like sometimes you're, you know, sleeping on
- 14:26a couch in the basement of some dude's apartment
- 14:30that you barely know. And then the next day you're
- 14:33like at some villa in Miami partying with these
- 14:36dudes who own helicopters and who know Kid Rock.
- 14:40And it's just like the transition day to day
- 14:43is just wild. We were lucky enough to play Richard
- 14:48Branson's private birthday down in the Caribbean.
- 14:52We got invited to play over in the kingdom of
- 14:55Bahrain. So we're rubbing shoulders with really
- 15:00high class people. But then the next week will
- 15:05be like... We'll be like in a motel in like the
- 15:08middle of Idaho. There's like a bed that's mostly
- 15:13springs. Yeah. Just watch in the van to make
- 15:17sure nothing gets stolen. And so it puts you
- 15:20in this place where you're like, like he was
- 15:23kind of mentioning before, like we're doing a
- 15:25lot of the same things. And you ask that question,
- 15:27like, well, have we made it? You know, you can
- 15:30look at a lot of these accomplishments. Like
- 15:31we were also lucky to have a billboard in Yonge
- 15:35and Dundas Square. promoting our latest uh album
- 15:38songs for sienna which came out last fall um
- 15:42and uh got got to do like amazing things like
- 15:46play canada day for almost like just like maybe
- 15:495 000 people downtown vancouver you know and
- 15:53then and then the next month we're like oh geez
- 15:56we need to we need to book more shows we need
- 15:59to you know we need to we need to do more right
- 16:02to make things happen so it's uh It's a huge
- 16:05kind of state of limbo, always. But that's a
- 16:08part of what it means to be a musician and part
- 16:10of the ride. And we're definitely here for that.
- 16:14Yeah, that's an interesting, you know. way of
- 16:18thinking just looking at it because i've never
- 16:20i've never actually thought about it but it's
- 16:21true like a lot of people i think romanticize
- 16:24the idea of being a musician and like you know
- 16:26you're famous and you own like 10 cars and like
- 16:29two helicopters and all these kinds of things
- 16:31and then like you said there's a very wide gap
- 16:34but like it's also we're also always told that
- 16:36being an artist is one of the hardest things
- 16:38uh you know to actually break through and to
- 16:41do all these things so there's this weird like
- 16:44thing happened in popular culture where you like
- 16:46you're you're seen as like look at all these
- 16:48people with money and then but you're not gonna
- 16:51make it yourself yeah right yeah that is such
- 16:54an interesting dichotomy and it's really month
- 16:56by month you're like oh man we're just we're
- 16:59it's like everything's happening right now this
- 17:01is amazing right like the peak of like everything
- 17:03and then like six months later you're like okay
- 17:06wait like what maybe part of it is just like
- 17:08you know getting used to different levels of
- 17:13or progress in the career. You know, everything
- 17:16seemed like before you do something, it seems
- 17:19impossible. And then once it happens, it's like
- 17:22it was always supposed to happen and nothing
- 17:24else could have ever happened. Right. So, yeah.
- 17:27But I'm very grateful for, you know, the things
- 17:31that have worked out in my life to allow me to
- 17:33live this kind of lifestyle, even with its drama.
- 17:37It's not for the faint of heart. You know what
- 17:39I mean? You got to be pretty, pretty resilient
- 17:42sometimes. But the upsides are like amazing.
- 17:47Huge. Yeah. Huge. The downsides are devastating.
- 17:52This is two ends of the spectrum. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
- 17:56Yeah, yeah. It's a world of extremes out here
- 17:58in every way. Was there a moment that felt like
- 18:06a turning point for the group of you? or was
- 18:10it like kind of a series of things happening
- 18:12like you said where it was like oh wow like oh
- 18:14there's traction you know i think once we had
- 18:17jacob and jason and like i i mean jason is one
- 18:21of my favorite drummers in the city like every
- 18:24like no offense to everybody else you're making
- 18:30a lot of people upset here but uh i have a lot
- 18:34of drummer friends all right and they're gonna
- 18:36be listening For the record, I think you're all
- 18:40great, all right? Yeah, yeah. Jason's pretty
- 18:42good, though. He's pretty good. The opinions
- 18:44expressed. The problem with drummers, there are
- 18:48some drummers that you can't pay to not overplay.
- 18:53You know what I mean? And Jason is the perfect
- 18:56balance of having so much technical skill, so
- 18:59much virtuosity. but also having the restraint
- 19:02and the maturity of like knowing when to do that
- 19:05and when to just settle into the groove and just
- 19:08like feel great. And so once we had that as a
- 19:13foundation and then Jacob coming in as an additional
- 19:15vocalist and what the keytar really does is fill
- 19:19out all the things that like the way I think
- 19:23about it is. For me on the keyboard, I'm emulating
- 19:26more keyboard instruments. So I'm doing like
- 19:28pianos, roads, organs, claves. And Jacob does
- 19:33some of that as well. But he's also like an entire
- 19:36synthesizer with crazy leads and pads and a brass
- 19:39section and a string section. It's like having,
- 19:42you know, five more members of the band just
- 19:45with the guitar. Yeah, I do. I do everything
- 19:48else. Yeah, I just do everything. with the things
- 19:53that no one else wants to do while i'll be playing
- 19:57like the string part while singing the third
- 19:59harmony while two -stepping just and what makes
- 20:06that really effective too is that like one thing
- 20:09we really pride ourselves on is that you know
- 20:11everything with us is completely live and i mean
- 20:15we don't even have you know any kind of like
- 20:19auto -tune or anything on stage like everything
- 20:20is as raw as possible and jacob really kind of
- 20:25acts almost like what maybe the backing track
- 20:27would be if we wanted to have extra stuff going
- 20:30on he really fills in all that stuff and then
- 20:34obviously like the solo breaks and all the crazy
- 20:36other shit that you do but uh yeah no i would
- 20:40say that that jacob and jason joining made it
- 20:43feel like okay this is so this is undeniable
- 20:46if we can get this out into the world then this
- 20:51will be a thing but that's uh the hard part especially
- 20:55taking six guys on the road you know you got
- 20:57to eat got to sleep it's not uh there's a lot
- 21:00of moving parts to getting out there but also
- 21:04the commitment level you know from everybody
- 21:06from that point just reached a new level of dedication
- 21:10right not that we weren't taking it very seriously
- 21:13the first couple years but uh yeah yeah that
- 21:17was the turning point because you know like yeah
- 21:19right turning point is that well i was just gonna
- 21:21add on you know the bigger the band the harder
- 21:24it is right to make everything work that's why
- 21:27so many record labels these days just find a
- 21:30singer that they like and just push single artists
- 21:33one person yeah because you make way more money
- 21:35right it's one person's hotel and food and living
- 21:39expenses and put them on tour and then you know
- 21:43it's way more profitable But I would like to
- 21:46think that with more people on stage and without
- 21:48using tracks, like you say, we can deliver a
- 21:51more memorable and exciting and immersive musical
- 21:56experience. No, I like it. And your sound, you
- 22:02know, is quite... interesting like it's quite
- 22:05unique like the the the the songs that you guys
- 22:08put out is really is really cool how did you
- 22:09guys find your sound i was trying to figure out
- 22:12i was trying to research what uh what what your
- 22:14your sound is like and it said something like
- 22:16it's 70s disco 90s r &b and like funk and stuff
- 22:19like that like it's a mixture of a bunch of different
- 22:21things just tell me about it i mean part of the
- 22:24reason that it's called the free label is because
- 22:25it's impossible to put a label on it and right
- 22:28we always felt comfortable like just making the
- 22:34music that we wanted to make and not getting
- 22:36you know boxed into like a thing but at the same
- 22:39time you want to have a cohesive kind of you
- 22:43know body of work and and statement and that
- 22:47really came about over the years just by playing
- 22:50a lot together and trying to figure out like
- 22:52what we all matt said it best the other day actually
- 22:55matt said like what is it that we can do that
- 22:58nobody else can do like individually and collectively
- 23:02And that's something that's taken years to really
- 23:04hone in on. And there's lots of little musical
- 23:09techniques and things and influences that we've
- 23:12all brought together. But what makes it a band,
- 23:18too, is that we write together. Somebody will
- 23:23come in with something, some kind of chord progression,
- 23:25some kind of theme, some kind of idea. But our
- 23:27best music happens when we can take that. then
- 23:32all sit in a room together and try to figure
- 23:34out you know how we can all put our little stamp
- 23:38on it which uh which took years to figure out
- 23:42the process because like there's times where
- 23:44you got to realize like oh man like these two
- 23:47or three people are like really in a zone right
- 23:49now and maybe i'm not understanding exactly what
- 23:52they're hearing or i'm in a bad mood or whatever
- 23:54i need to like remove myself for like 30 minutes
- 23:56and go take a walk and then come back with like
- 23:58the killer lyric that's gonna like make the second
- 24:00verse or something um so knowing how to like
- 24:03come in and out and navigate those spaces uh
- 24:07took some time but yeah it results in a interesting
- 24:10blend of of genres for sure yeah and how like
- 24:14i it's it's interesting you guys being part of
- 24:16the band right now it's really interesting to
- 24:17hear that you know everybody is putting their
- 24:20effort like trying to have their stamp in the
- 24:23song and like you know different uh things that
- 24:26are unique to you but still kind of complement
- 24:29every everything right the other thing is that
- 24:33i i've made solo music in the past you've made
- 24:36solo music um at least speaking for myself like
- 24:41it's a lot easier to write just sad, depressing
- 24:47music, especially like by yourself. Like it just,
- 24:50I don't know. We both have large catalogs of
- 24:54sad, depressing music. Shout out to Shagwagon.
- 24:56Shout out to Payless Q. Shout out to Grant Ulysses.
- 25:00Many more. But one thing with the band is like
- 25:04we've really, that's just not the vibe of the
- 25:07band. And that's, it's. that's been a tricky
- 25:11thing to navigate for me sometimes is like making
- 25:13music that makes people feel good and want to
- 25:16dance and without being like shallow, you know
- 25:20what I mean? At the same time. So I think that's
- 25:25an ethos that we also really follow is like,
- 25:28how can we make music that makes the world a
- 25:32more enjoyable place to live, at least for the
- 25:35duration of a song or a concert. and that's a
- 25:40big thing with our concerts too is that we really
- 25:42want that to be a place where you know you leave
- 25:46there's so much crazy stuff going on in the world
- 25:49if we can leave that at the door for an hour
- 25:52and maybe you don't need to know what the person
- 25:54beside you believes or what they're going to
- 25:57do after the show but like in this moment we
- 26:00can just be human beings in bodies dancing you
- 26:03know and just being a society again yeah A hundred
- 26:08percent, because I think a lot of that is missing
- 26:10now. And as you said, there's so much contention
- 26:13and polarization and, you know, all these things
- 26:15happening in the world. And I really feel that
- 26:19we need more of that for sure. I agree with you.
- 26:21But I love how deep, I guess, the thought process
- 26:24goes and how you guys are thinking about how
- 26:27to create music or how to make someone feel when
- 26:29they're in a concert or when they're hearing
- 26:31your songs. You know, it's something that a lot
- 26:34of people just don't. realize just how much not
- 26:37only technique and experience and knowing how
- 26:39to do songs and whatever but also the thought
- 26:41process that goes into what kind of you know
- 26:44feeling what kind of song is what kind of idea
- 26:46do i do i want to leave in the world right what
- 26:49kind of imprint do i want to leave in the world
- 26:50i think that's really uh i think key but also
- 26:54really interesting to actually hear from an artist
- 26:57kind of talk about that One question I had, I
- 27:02wanted to touch on your latest album, Sienna.
- 27:06And is that out and released now? It is out and
- 27:09released. Yeah. Yeah, you can listen everywhere.
- 27:13And what was that timeline or process in terms
- 27:17of creating that album? How quickly did it come
- 27:19together? Was it any particular challenge with
- 27:22this one? Well, I think the album really started
- 27:25coming together. And I think the band started
- 27:27to really... come together when we went on our
- 27:30first tour out west in a toyota sienna and uh
- 27:36this was right after i joined the band and uh
- 27:39when we went out there we were already working
- 27:42with a few demos but also started kind of coming
- 27:45up with lyrics and writing new ideas all in that
- 27:48uh all in that car which was cramped might i
- 27:52add it was you know pretty big dudes with a ton
- 27:56of gear in the back and we're all sitting like
- 27:58this, driving through the mountain ranges of
- 28:01the West. So it was a pretty memorable time.
- 28:06And that's when we first all started kind of
- 28:07hanging out and gelling as a group. And so that
- 28:11just seemed like the most fitting name is because
- 28:13that's when we really started to be a band together.
- 28:16And that's when a lot of these songs kind of
- 28:17came together. How long was it from that until
- 28:21the record came out? It was at least a good year.
- 28:26We recorded the songs at a studio in Montreal.
- 28:31That was a great experience. That studio was
- 28:34just so vibey. Actually, if you go on, we have
- 28:37a live session on YouTube. It's a mix of songs
- 28:41from the album and then some other older songs
- 28:44live at Dan Duran Studios. But that's actually
- 28:46the place where we recorded the majority of the
- 28:48record. But yeah, it's a cool process too. Like
- 28:53the way music's made nowadays. you tend to like
- 28:57make a demo in like a basement like this or in
- 29:01the car or in a hotel and then take parts of
- 29:05that into a studio because you need to record
- 29:06drums better or do this better and then you listen
- 29:08back and you're like oh man there's a certain
- 29:10magic in that demo in that the way that you could
- 29:12hear like the background of the hotel or something
- 29:14and you drag some of that audio back in and it
- 29:18becomes this big like i don't know just mashup
- 29:22of uh different places that you've been in different
- 29:25places that you've recorded and that's i think
- 29:29something that uh you can hear a little bit more
- 29:31on dancing on your own and got a little something
- 29:34for you as well and i think will be even more
- 29:37apparent on our forthcoming releases but uh yeah
- 29:42it's a trippy process for sure yeah that's cool
- 29:46yeah for sure I also have like so many songs.
- 29:52I have like, you know, version one, version two,
- 29:54version 27, version 36. This is the one for real
- 29:56this time. It's done. And then you go back to
- 30:00version three and you're like, oh, that was actually.
- 30:03Yeah, that was it all along. How do you know
- 30:08when I guess the final mix is the one or if you've
- 30:12gone too far? You never know. You just have to
- 30:16cut yourself off. Yeah. at some point it's just
- 30:22release what we have i think it's good enough
- 30:24yeah yeah yeah and then you and you put it out
- 30:26you're like that's okay and then you come back
- 30:29in three months you're like yo this tune was
- 30:31amazing yeah you gotta give it you gotta give
- 30:34it time though right like musical perception
- 30:36is so strange like how much it varies from performing
- 30:40or recording to listening back to what you recorded
- 30:44It's like just like three chords can sound like
- 30:47so many different things based on your vantage
- 30:50point. Right. And time, right? That's pretty
- 30:56cool. Oh, you guys are playing in the Mariposa
- 31:03Folk Festival this year as well, right? Yes,
- 31:05we are so excited to be doing that. Yeah, we
- 31:08can't wait. We've both been going to Mariposa
- 31:10every year for our whole lives. So this is a
- 31:15real homecoming for us. I know the band has played
- 31:17it two times before, I think. I remember, I think
- 31:20in 2019, they do like a Mariposa showcase where
- 31:25bands audition. And we actually won that in that
- 31:29year. So we got to perform through that. And
- 31:33then I guess we did an all right job. So they
- 31:35invited us back a couple years later to do the
- 31:38pub temp for real. And I was at that show, actually.
- 31:43Really? Every year. I thought, wow, this is a
- 31:47great band. This is pretty good. You had no idea.
- 31:51I can see myself here. And do you know when you're,
- 31:57do you know your schedule yet for when you're
- 31:59playing at the festival? Saturday night. Saturday
- 32:02night, yeah. Pub tent, be there. Pub tent, Saturday
- 32:05night. There you go. Yeah, exactly. And then
- 32:07Sunday we're doing a workshop in the afternoon.
- 32:10I'm not sure exactly what time. Oh, what's the
- 32:13workshop about? I mean, the best part about Mariposa
- 32:16is that they have the main stage, they have the
- 32:19pub tent stage. Pub tent stage is the sickest.
- 32:23But they also have all these little stages all
- 32:26around the grounds, right, where what they do
- 32:28is they take two or three different artists and
- 32:30they bring them together to kind of collaborate
- 32:32in real time, like improvised. You know, they
- 32:35might play. One band might explain the chords
- 32:38to a song and have the other band kind of join
- 32:40in or bring in another vocalist or a soloist.
- 32:43So I'm not exactly sure who we're going to be
- 32:46playing with yet. But that's always such an amazing,
- 32:51like, just creative and artistic moment. Yeah.
- 32:54Because you're seeing something that's never
- 32:55happened before and will never happen again.
- 32:57Yeah. Well, they do so many, so many cool, as
- 33:00you know, right? They do so many cool things
- 33:02at these stages. Like I saw there was this one,
- 33:05one stage just off to the side where Gordon Lightfoot
- 33:07is talking to maybe only like 50 people and we're
- 33:10all like up close and he's just, and he's, you
- 33:13know, he's not performing. He's just kind of
- 33:14breaking down like how he wrote some of his songs,
- 33:17you know, stuff that would just get like millions
- 33:21of views if it was, but you know, that was like
- 33:22way back in the day. So no one's filming it.
- 33:24We're all just like, this is crazy. And there
- 33:29was a, there's another stage. Way earlier, where
- 33:34Cole and I performed for this improvised dance
- 33:39group led by another Aurelia local, Beth McKean,
- 33:43who's actually now doing some clothing design
- 33:46for us. Nice. Yeah, she, I don't know if you've
- 33:50seen any of our bell -bottom pants that we've
- 33:52been wearing recently. Six dudes going out in
- 33:57public, all wearing bell -bottom jeans is definitely...
- 34:00We get a lot of catcalls, for sure. Which I love,
- 34:03which I love. But yeah, Beth helped us out with
- 34:08that for our show at the Axis Club back in April.
- 34:10And we're going to be working together to do
- 34:12a number of things for Mariposa and then moving
- 34:15into the future. So that's, yeah. Yeah. But when
- 34:20we played with her, it was like, what do you
- 34:22mean, 45, 50 minutes straight? of playing with
- 34:26nothing nothing prepared and cole and i that
- 34:29was that was another case where you know we didn't
- 34:31you know we we'd known each other but i think
- 34:33at that time we hadn't played and in a while
- 34:36and so we both show up to this gig she's like
- 34:38okay you're gonna play for about an hour straight
- 34:40just follow me we're gonna so it's me me and
- 34:44cole at keys and she's like bring it up bring
- 34:47it up okay okay and she's like more more you
- 34:53know And even, you know, not knowing him super
- 34:57well in that situation, we were still able to
- 35:00just improvise and make something happen for
- 35:02an hour straight, you know, with a bunch of hippies,
- 35:05you know, out there dancing and getting weird.
- 35:08So, yeah, now we're doing the same thing. There
- 35:13you go. Well, you both have to be pretty talented
- 35:16to just start riffing for an hour. We're okay.
- 35:20We're okay. Cool. Yeah. So for me, that takes
- 35:29care of all the questions that I had written
- 35:30before. Is there anything that we might be missing?
- 35:35Got to plug the music, you know, go listen to
- 35:36our latest release. We got gals for you, got
- 35:40a little something for you and dancing on your
- 35:42own. And, you know, come out to a show. We're
- 35:46traveling all over the place. Well, before Mariposa,
- 35:50we're going to Electric Forest in Michigan. We're
- 35:52headlining the Winnipeg Jazz Festival just like
- 35:53next week. And there's a million things before
- 35:57and after that. If you go to our website, you
- 35:58can see all the dates. But yeah, come say hi.
- 36:04We're friendly people. And honestly, the live
- 36:06show is the place to be. If you like what you
- 36:10see on Instagram and you like the music, it's
- 36:1210x. It's even better. It's even better. I know
- 36:16it's hard to believe. But it's even better. And
- 36:19where can people follow you if you know your
- 36:21handles on your socials or your website? Yeah,
- 36:24so the band is called The Free Label, but it's
- 36:26Free Label Love on just about everything, Instagram,
- 36:30TikTok, YouTube. I'm sure there's others. Yeah.
- 36:34Google it. And obviously people can go find your
- 36:36music on Apple, Spotify, wherever they listen
- 36:40from, right? And if you come to the show, you
- 36:42can get a vinyl. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Well,
- 36:47we're planning on going to the Mariposa Folk
- 36:49Festival this year for sure. So we'll come say
- 36:52hi. Definitely, definitely come out to that one.
- 36:55And that's, that's the one other thing I'd like
- 36:57to say is that we're just so excited to be playing
- 36:59that show in our hometown for a bunch of friends
- 37:02and people from around here and people from all
- 37:04over. So it's going to be a great time. Yeah.
- 37:07Amazing. Well, thank you guys very much for joining
- 37:10us. It was, it was pretty awesome. Like I learned
- 37:13a lot about, about you guys. That's cool. Sweet.
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